October 22, 2014
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1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke and Don Betcher discussed weapons systems and night vision technology on October 22, 2014. The show covered rifle comparisons including the M1A, AR-15, AK variants, and the Korean Daewoo rifle, emphasizing practical maintenance and performance over brand names. The hosts extensively detailed night vision equipment options, including first and second generation devices, pricing, and tactical deployment methods using infrared illumination and flares. They also discussed illumination flares available through UNAMMO.com and their tactical applications, and took a caller from Ohio interested in relocating to Michigan property.
- night vision
- ar-15
- ak rifles
- daewoo rifle
- m1a
- first generation
- second generation
- infrared illumination
- flares
- tactical deployment
- michigan property
- weapons wednesday
- unammo.com
- gun sights
- thermal imaging
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Live 365 Revolution. Thank you for listening to LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com. MainMilitary.com has a large selection of pistols and rifles suited for your needs. Are your local stores sold out of ammunition? Call or visit them today for prices on hard to find ammo and bulk ammo orders. You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because MainMilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at MainMilitary.com. That's Main, like the state, Military.com. I had a dream the other night that Well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. Invist the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? And good evening, ladies and gentlemen, this is the... Evening Intelligence Report, I'm R. Kornke. And I'm Don Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, south, east, and northeast. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on... Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com Indiana Freedom Talk radio dot com. We're on AFM Micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska Hallmark Network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida to the ark of the Gulf of Mexico. headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third, the fifth, and our friends in the recall state of Colorado. Waving the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson, we turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, leap over the Mississippi and land in the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grammar teams, OK teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work. a million petticoat junction operators, the ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well, Don, it's dark outside and it's pretty obvious to anybody. Guys, it's oh dark 30 out there. What's it like in your neck of the woods? What's the date today? What's jumping off the wall up there in the upper end of Michigan, please? Well, it is the 22nd day of October, year of our Lord 2014. That's the stripe down the middle of the paper thing that hangs on the wall, the calendar. We call that a particular day around here. We started off like this with 1911 in one hand and magazine in the other. You could fill your hand with the projector of your choice. With 1911 in one hand and magazine in the other, I want to introduce the magazine to the magazine well. that slide release and now we've got one in the chamber and we can tell you it is weapons Wednesday the perimeter is secure and oh by the way there's plenty more where that came from I'm going to top off my magazine we can offer equal opportunity go or receive force for that 1911 I'll tell you what I'm going to do uh ed can probably give us a better idea Don am I are you hearing a lot of background noise in my uh off my ear I've got a low like machine line like the machine shop is you know three doors down the hall in the background, right? Yeah, yeah, I think we're gonna do is we're gonna change up everything on my end sounds clean dead as far as I can tell there's nothing there almost negligible It's just in my ear then here. I just it's been damp up here again And that's where the problem of the phone if it's bugging you dad go ahead and change out to the station It's working as long as I'm not interfering with you guys if I make sure a quality control wheel on the network guys We can figure out how to make it work as it is, it is weapons Wednesday and we did cover a number of subjects we were talking about main battle rifles actually we did go around the block so to speak with a number of different arms the M1A as we pointed out the M14 fine weapon if you give me one I'll give you a big hug and I'll show you how to make it work when the time comes if you threw one at me I have no problem making it function But they're pricey. It's the only problem today for the average shooter out there that's coming into the Patriot movement and trying to arm up a family or a group of people. The light rifles understand their limitations, understand their uses. Each tool can be used. Pull it out of the toolbox, but you've got to know what its capabilities are, contrary to what Hollywood might generate. We want superiority, not equity, but we'll take whatever we can. And of course, as it is, the AKs and ARs that are out there are in equal performance, although again, we can maintain them to a superior standard to what the military does with theirs, simply because we know we've got to pay for it. So we're going to do a decent job of cleaning, maintenance, and any upgrades we do, we'll try to get the most bang for the buck. We have a bit of a step up, even in the standard light rifles like the AK, AR, Mini-14, any of the other, you know, category, quote-unquote, they're not assault rifles, but they call them that. Your weapon doesn't go clack, clack, and clack. Yours just goes clack. Say, you know, fire and safe. Fire and safe. That's it. So you don't have an assault weapon, you have a light rifle. That's a good thing in many ways, because then you don't just necessarily spray and pray very easily unless you get real excited with that busy trigger finger. So, again, the ARs and the AKs, it's a personal flavor choice. Each have their advantages and each have, they're not significant disadvantages, they're issues that need to be accommodated in order for the weapon to function properly. There are other weapons that are crossovers, just not available in the US and that's why they're not available in the US. I've mentioned many times that Daewoo took the best of two worlds. Leave it to the Koreans, guys. They took the AK gas system and put it on an AR type system using AR internals, AR15 mags and the standard US 556 cartridge because they were getting that from Uncle Sam on a large, you know, a large... They got the Yankees at one end of the block, Mark, and the Commies at the other end of the block. Yeah, right there in front of them. So what they did is they said, well, we can make our own. And they did. And the DeWoo rifle is an outstanding firearm. That's why we can't get it guys. It was coming into the country back in the 80s We bought a bunch of them we beat the snot out of them and they continued to function like an AK Dependable as sunrise. Yeah, and that's why they block them That's why they're not in the US because you had the best of both worlds. You've got a really incredibly forgiving gas system And, you know, again, good cleaning, self-cleaning system, the way they built it, but it's both is an AR-15, M16. Internal critical parts are all parts that would be from the US government stores or from NATO stores. The magazines are AR-15 and the ammo's, you know, M16, AR-15. So everything they needed that was going to be on the cheaper, you know, is going to need to be replaced, would be coming from an existing inventory with no modifications. Of course, they build their own rifles and they build their own parts. But everything that everybody else makes would then be interchangeable. Now the gas system was unique, but when you build it like an AK, guys, how long does that gas system last? Pretty much almost forever. And for the time, what few parts needed to be built to accommodate the design were parts that were easily mastered by the Koreans who are excellent machinists. They had got the trade down, so they knew what they were doing and they did it right. They made a folding stock model. Not excited about folding stock rifles, you know that. But again, they serve their purpose and they have niches. We have them, we use them. But the Koreans went with common sense design across the board and we balked them. They're an ally. Now the communist Chinese, at the time, they could bring any gun they wanted, but the Daewoos? Oh hell no! Now think about that. Communist Chinese, the Turks, everybody else, they bring guns in. Korea bringing in the Daewoo? Oh hell no! And why is it? Because you get the best of both worlds and in reality as was pointed out with all the field testing done by people who were just regular guys and gals, man this rifle sings. And again don't have the dirt and crud problems you have with the AR-15 family of rifle. But you also have the advantage of that AK gas system. They did go with a little different sight but the basic sight picture is the same but the sight system Again, they incorporated a few additional features to protect the sites and it does have its own outline. It is not completely an AR-15 outline when you look at it, neither close up or even a little ways away. We built Beretta's contract on this continent. That's a contract built gun. That's not like Beretta's an American company. You guys know that. Right, it's called Beretta of America. That guy is being owned by Beretta, the same guy as the only ones in Italy. Yeah. No. If somebody was able to grab that bull by the horns, take the initiative, and you might have to get a contract. But if it couldn't be imported, I wonder if they'd have any problems with it being built here under contract. Right. Interestingly enough, why oppose an ally like this? See, that's what I was going to point back in the day, guys. We were getting AKs for $125, $150 apiece, and the Daewoos were coming in at about 278. But the Daewoos were brand new, again a unique design. They didn't feed off existing production. And they were very reasonably priced. When I say we beat them up, guys, we took them in the field and I had originally bought 10 and I put them in one of the, well, they used them in the OpFor because they were great. They look like an AK to a degree. We even painted the stocks up just for the sake of silhouette change because we get cheap stocks for them. they went through the the ringer we used a lot of live fire we used them for training operations and we didn't have any malfunctions did any failure to feed didn't have a dirt problems and everybody want to buy more and then they started to disappear and then they were blocked completely in the rest of history but uh... again that's why i said in many cases when we see something if it's really cheap and i think grab it There's probably a reason, because things don't stay cheap. Or, in some cases, if they all of a sudden get their panties in a bunch because of politics, all of a sudden it just isn't available. Which is the other issue that we've seen, like with Sega, with the less expensive and reasonably priced Sega weapons. Remember, they were under $200 apiece originally, guys, for the longest time. Anyway, the Daewoo is a solution, but we don't have that. Now there's another thing, there's another couple of guys out there, and remember we brought this up, the beginning of this year. There's a young gentleman out there who is building an AR-15AK hybrid. It has, it is literally AK and AR parts, it is a combo gun, and has all the best features of both rifles. It can be built in 7.62x39, 5.45x39, 2.23, and all of the blackout and other Grendel cartridges, etc. The interesting thing is that, as far as I know, you should be in production, but I haven't seen anything more on that. So if anybody's got any updates... throw them into the chat room there. The guy has done several videos on the subject. Forgive me, I don't have the notes right here in front of me. But the reason I bring this up is because we need to stay up to speed on this. Now, he was going to keep the rifle down in the reasonable price range. New production weapons, especially if he's kind of pushing the precision machining, realistically I'd be expecting $700, $800 for it coming out. If he was smart, I'd go lower. Actually, I'd do an intro price at cost. The idea is to get it out there so people start playing with it, fondling it, handling it, loving it, and then they talk about it. That's your best bet. I've seen that as a success over and over again. But anyway, it is an idea. It would mean that for any of you already have your ammunition or your AR mags or whatever, you wouldn't have to be buying into anything new in terms of your support for the weapons system. See how that works? So that's a plus, unless you're AK committed and you need AR mags to accommodate the issue. That kind of thing. Find out more as that develops. And I will remind everybody again, too, that If you are here the AR there are some buys right now for AK mags not the most expensive you know but still Korean made AK mags from Centerfire about seven dollars apiece if you're buying quantity. They are mags. There have been a few that have come down. The name brands are pretty well staying where we expected and they are being consumed. They are not really slowing down in production and they are also pretty well selling off the shelf what they have got. They may have a picture on a webpage but that doesn't mean they have the inventory. That is something I was experimenting today with calling around to the different companies to confirm or deny what you have available. Again, before you do it, jump in on an order. Make sure, number one, go to the subject item. Read all the little red print, because a lot of times they're putting it there and people pass it by. Don't back order, wait until it's in stock. I know that's kind of hard to do, but look around. Shop otherwise and find somebody that does have it in stock, that does have what you need. The other thing here, Night Vision Technology, Don has it. DealXtreme does have some IR lighting. dealxtreme.com, dealxtreme.com, DX.com, DX.com. But they also have LED light fixtures. Forgive me, just replacement bulbs for everything. They also have LED for everything. So one of the things that I was going to bring up tonight especially, either white light beam their butt illumination, or IR, you know, beam the area but do it passively unless the other guy has night vision then he's going to know you're beaming but if you deploy it away from you and use it with a remote switch this is a great way to set up light mines that allow you to observe while creating problems and Don, with your night vision technology combined with that again first generation will work just fine people If you remember in the military we used to put pop flares out actually what they were ground illumination flares and they were booby traps and the idea was that they'd set something off and that tell you somebody was heading through the bush in your direction over there in quadrant T you know D4 Well the idea behind that is you might already have mapped that out with the grenadier so they go boom with a 40 millimeter or the mortar the 81s of the 60s go boom boom boom They've already zeroed on the objectives out there and they see that flare go off so they drop three rounds for the fun of it. The other round... The other round... ...or six pairs of eyes. Yeah. Think about it. The idea also...machine gun fire, belt fed, grazing and or long range plunging fire into a target area just for, again, harassment. You might get lucky, you snag someone, fantastic. If not, you got them scrambling around in the dark. Now, once that flare goes out, then they don't see very well initially, especially if they don't have that much in the way of night vision or they didn't have it prepped properly and people fumble, stumble, run into trees, all kinds of good stuff. It happens. I've seen it in every variation you can think of. So, the night vision technology that Don has, I want you to touch on it right now. We're heading towards the bottom and we're close enough. Night vision technology, you have it, we can put it on an M14, an AR, an AK, Don. What is available in green screen first gen, what's happening with that, and where are we going with the next solution past the ones that we're running out of? Go ahead, please. Well, in first generation, and we've addressed this for a while, the green screen is disappearing to be replaced with the innards from a digital camera. It's pretty neat. You can use this in the daytime and you can use it after dark. As the light levels go down, so does your color until it's just black and white. Black and white means white light coming out of the device on the ocular side, the lens that you're looking at. That means you've got white light on your face unless you're really working hard at practicing discipline of keeping your hand in the right place. The palm is up to your temple almost, but it's also touching the device. There's a lot to keeping all that white light trapped. We've talked about this before. It can be done, but it's an effort. One of the things that is going into the company now, if they don't want to fix the white light problem, maybe they should put a real good boot on the back of these devices. So that you bring it up to your eye, and you turn it on, and then you turn it off, and you move it away from your eye. And that's a different form of light discipline right there. We'll see what happens. I'm going to be talking directly, you know, put my hand out and shake it here with my guy in the company here in a couple weeks, Mark. So I'm writing down things to move upstream, so to speak, you know, up the flagpole and see if they'll salute it. There's an old phrase there, huh? But let's see what comes of this. White light is going to be first generation. It appears that that's going to be the replacement for the green screen in first gen. As mentioned a couple days ago, you guys, there's a bit of first generation in every second, third, and fourth generation tube. Perhaps moving all of that over instead of continuing to build first generation, perhaps they're moving it all into second and third generation, but mostly the Russians would be second generation. because we're talking about Russian tubes here, first generation Russian tubes or the lack thereof. But I can still get green screen in a, right now, we've sold out, you guys, we've tracked this. We've sold out of the three power night track, the five power night track, and we've sold out of the two power gun sight. Now we're working on whittling down the pile of four power gun sights. I can put that 4 power gun sight right in your mailbox for $390. Manufacture wants $449 at the minimum and they're going to get delivery beyond that. I don't want to go there, but $449 plus delivery. I can put it right in your mailbox. That includes delivery and everything the manufacturer is going to put in the box if they decided to send you one if you ordered from them for $390. My phone number is 23179684. Again, 2, 3, 1, 9, 6, 8, 4, 5, 8. We can talk about goggles, first or second generation goggles or single tube viewers. Again, going back to our first generation viewer, that's going to be white light. I don't have a green screen in first generation viewer anymore, just that first generation gun sight 4 power. We still have some 6 power. first-generation gun sights, but I don't have a price on that. I'll have that for you tomorrow. We move up to second generation and you guys, I've got a viewer, the consistency of this particular device is just, it's like level as a frozen pond. It's, everyone that's gone through my hand is just as good as the last one. You might wonder why you would say something like that, but you guys in first generation in particular, you'll get some devices that perform better than others and then second generation you'll define that now and then here's the one that it just... Over here the screen is a little wrinkly or something, you know, but the consistency of performance in this device is to be admired. I can put that generation viewer at 2.8 power in your mailbox for $980. If you go up to a gun site, second generation gun site, it's 2 power. Right in your mailbox, $1,248. We can go on, but you guys, I don't want to take up time just talking about numbers and talking about dollars. If you're listening and you have that interest, you guys, my phone number is 231-79-658. We can talk about goggles or gun sights. We can talk about green screens or thermal. You've heard me mention it as of late. I've got a hand held. Your company calls it a flashlight. It doesn't emit any light from the front. The light that comes out of the back of every thermal device you guys is, guess what? White light. If you have it in black and white mode or white and black mode, it's white light. Just like you're looking at a little black and white TV. So you need to up your game if you're walking around with a piece of thermal or a thermal gun sight because, well, maybe you haven't been made aware of that. The guy with the green screen is out there looking at you, be it a a monocular or a gun sight or a binocular, well that white light on your face is going to stand out. And we pointed this out with the green screen. But you guys, that guy that's deploying with a piece of thermal on top of his rifle, he has to exhibit that light discipline as well as you would. You know, there's pluses and minuses to everything, isn't there? An advantage and a disadvantage. Sometimes the advantage is far outweigh the disadvantages and if you work on whittling the disadvantages down even further, the advantages are just tremendous. Again, my phone number is 7964580. Thank you Mark. Very good. And again guys, with the technology that we're deploying or integrating into other support that we can develop and build. Remember, even if our first gen is limited in range under certain conditions, we talked about area fire and suppression fire. Remember that if you use IR illumination and you're able to detect it using that first gen, you can bring in, again, plunging fire into an area. It's kind of like a bullet landmine. If it was set off, it was set off in that unfriendly territory. That is an area where your people are not moving, you're not traveling, it's a forage of a battle area, a FIBA. That flare goes off, or that night type IR illuminator goes off, you know it's yours. White light can come out, it can be demonstrated or show up on the battlefield in a number of different ways. But in a situation like this where you're talking about Utilizing IR. You know that when the IR light goes off, that's your equipment that you deployed. So there are advantages to using tools like this. It's a way of being able to confirm, yep, that's one of ours. Dump it. If everybody in that unit is not equipped with night vision, you might even hear if you're close enough somebody warning the other people that were being washed with IR right now, no matter what the language. Another thing to point out Mark, I'm glad you brought this out, particularly the big filters on big lights. You guys, you're going to see that. That's going to look like a monster's eye in the dark. It's the biggest cow eye I ever saw. But for a moment, you'll have that area lit up rather well. Now it's going to be, if you do it right and you choose just the right deployment so you can cover a lot of area with that light, For a little while it's going to be like there's a full moon with a light over there until somebody might shoot it. But until they've figured that out or the person with the night vision figures out the sword, kills it. Until then, you guys, even with a first generation device, you take your first generation device out in the daytime, and we've cautioned you on this, but you can work your green screen in the daytime for a short period. walk out to the middle of the road now maybe if you live in a city you don't want to be standing in the middle of the road walk out a little bit toward your sidewalk and turn the device on and look down two or three blocks three or four blocks granted it's going to be a fuzzy image and you're going to you know try to tune it's not going to work to try to focus your front lens because that pinhole is not bringing in light across such a small area of the front and it's the center of the lens and it's almost exactly flat. Work your ocular side, you know, your diopter adjustment until it's as best as it can be. And if you look at that 2, what's a city block? If you look at that 2 or 3 blocks away and look at that illumination, what you're seeing in your green screen in the daylight, now turn it off because you don't want to have a long-term exposure, a long-time exposure in the daylight. but take it out in the daylight with your pinhole cover on and look at what you can see at a good, good distance and determine if, could I put that on my reticle and could I shoot it? Or does my gun have enough range to shoot that far? Or another basic, am I capable of shooting that far? And if you're not, you're going to have to work up to that. But let's assume that all of the aforementioned questions are affirmative, you know, yes. Now you take that down to almost no moon at night. Man, you've cut your full moon range on your first generation. Well, better than half. For certain, better than half. Because now there's no moon and this generation, it's old technology. But if you're looking across the field and you're expecting nothing but in that area, You're looking in that area when that light goes off and it's lit up a good portion What you do is you set things up when you're trying to get good portions of the body In front of you or in front of this illumination you guys you don't set the center of the wire out right in the center of your circle of Illumination do you mark you might even if you're if you're experiencing the body Moving through that area a set of one or two people You might even have your trip wire set just beyond where the illumination comes on. The guy who's out there at the front stretched out a little ways, he's the guy that hits that trip wire and lights up a good portion of the main body, which is still a bit of a waste behind him, right? These are basic things, you guys, but let's go back to this because Mark, we were talking about this many years ago and you might remember this. We were talking about light and it seems that light begets light, but it's not really true. In the daytime, you can see so far with that green screen because that sunlight over there, a quarter of a mile, 440 yards away with your first generation piece. You can almost make that with your first generation, the same device when there's a full moon. But in the daylight, you can see that better. But it's not about light begetting light. It's how much light is in the target area. And if you were to work the timing of the body right to where, again, the point guy, he's already out of what would be your field of illumination. When he manipulates that twig, steps on that branch, whatever, and trips that light, well, the greater portion of people that are following him, are in that field now and you're already looking there because you're kind of suspecting it, you can take shots from greater range if you have good illumination. You guys, let's do it like this. If you're driving out in the country and you're closing on the gas station and it's a half a mile away, stop and get your piece of night vision out and turn the piece of night vision so that that gas station is almost in your field of view and turn it on and let it warm up because you need to bring the defenses up. Remember the tubers then the defenses will. So turn it on, let it warm up, you know, count to about three or four with a first generation second earth. Count literally, count to about three or four and then start to pan that into that area, that lighted area that's a quarter mile, half a mile away. Look at what you do for you. as far as man I can target into that quarter or that three-eighths or that half a mile away. Now that's a lot of white light in that area and you know in white light there's all the colors but if you were to display or deploy rather that illuminator red across a good enough area using most of that light to catch a good body of op four man it's like hunky dory and we'll be we'll be talking about what happened later I'm certain you would agree Mark. Again here with the we using the different techniques you were talking about patrolling and a good point point man making contact or forward you know a scout making contact if you're using electronic tripwires and that's something everybody's discussed and we've actually seen employed you can put it on a timer one of the things taken to consideration is that typically a point man or a picket or a scout will be ahead of a formation. Now there are a couple other tricks to that. What you can do is actually, especially with electronic sensors, you can set it up so that you have a pass. And the first activates and then shuts off. Then you can have a second pass identifier programmed in. These little microchip programmable light things are really cool right now. and you literally could it would light up a second time with more motion. In other words by so many seconds. Now there's a couple ways you can also just use the standard pass system. It activates, you count to 10 and start dumping rounds in. Why? Well, point man is usually a little bit ahead of the main body. He may have a second man behind him by 20 feet, 20 yards. Specific distance varies depending on how the team works. But if you're trying to drop plunging fire into an area under those conditions, then you can hesitate or wait. You don't have to drop upon signal and identification. In other words, wow, the thing went off. Fire into the objective. Which is true, you can do that. But by hesitating and waiting just a bit, you may actually catch the main body or it's more probable that you're Indirect plunging fire will do more damage under those conditions. Just something to think about there. It's an idea that works. Of course, there is also the option of incorporating a wireless camera system so you can virtually see what's going on forward of your position. Another consideration that can be tied into the program is not that difficult to employ. We've talked about this on the air between Communications Tuesday and all the other days that we discuss employing special tech. And with the night vision comes a number of different options. We're America. We of course are crazy people when it comes to being innovative. And we can have a lot of fun with this technology in advance, prep it, develop it, and then when it comes time to employ it, totally change the dynamic even though we may have all that older equipment in the service or that other equipment in the service that supposedly isn't going to be as effective, they claim. We know better than that. Anyway, another thing done real quick on the note with infrared. Again, we don't want to direct towards our night vision anything that has any kind of major illumination, correct? In other words, we want to try and utilize the illumination. set or back set illumination is still our first best choice overhead and away from the observation point, correct? Oh again, that works. It's a two-edged sword. It's allowing you to work in real low light. But if anybody else has got a piece of night vision out there and he's looking back your way, he's on the other side. That bit of light works like a cone, doesn't it? Much like white light from a flashlight. If you're looking at somebody walking across the field at night with a flashlight and you're 0, 100, 200, if you're 100 yards away, you might think, well, I can look at where the light is coming from and I can think about where the guy's arm is and I can calculate his pace a little bit. If I put a burst right across there, I've got a pretty good chance of zipping him. But if you're like 900 or 1400 yards away and you see that white light off and you might call in mortars, you know, but you got a pretty good idea where the source of that is coming from because well it falls back to a cone, doesn't it? It looks the same for a piece of night vision that's watching someone who's using their infrared illuminator, their emitter. It looks the same. We've cautioned you on this for many years. But again, There's plenty of third generation devices out there that have emitters, you guys, that have infrared illuminators. Once things get going, if things are going pretty good, it might not be a bad thing to turn on your illuminator. There might be illuminators on, there might be illuminators from the people who were first generation. If that's true, you might be working with other people's illuminators, sweeping the battlefield with their illuminator, remaining yourself. But following their sweep, you can do that. It gets to be, people generally develop rhythms. They'll go left, they'll go right, they'll go up, they'll go down. They develop patterns and when you see it, it might take an instant, it might take a moment to recognize. But once you follow that, you can pretty much keep your field of view filled with someone else's illuminator. Now that's kind of sneaky and all, but you know, I repeat, that's kind of sneaky and all. But it will get the job done. It will get the job done without someone looking right at you save for maybe a dot that is your muzzle flash. A dot in an instant. That's example in the night vision video. I heard a ding. Do we have a caller? Do that. It might not be that person calling but you know, star 6 will unmute you. Anna would remind everybody. Again, for everybody that's listening, UNAMMO.com. We've talked about using flares in the past. I don't know what they have left, guys, because I know that they've been moving through a lot of the inventory. A lot of it may already be gone down the road. I know that the red's gone, and I believe the other day the orange sold out. There are a number of ground flares at www.unmo.com, www.unmo.com. Post that for you again where you can find it, unmo.com. Go there, check out the page, and if you go down to flares, I believe it's at ordinance. and go to UNAMMO.com. Of course they also have the bowling ball mortars slash, you know, bowling ball launchers, which, well, that doesn't float your boat. I mean, you can always have fun with that dropping something that might be full of something really bright. That'd be kind of neat, especially, again, be lighter, still big, and goes down range and burns for a long, long time. That would be kind of cool. Of course, it would burn for, if it burned for a long time, it might also help get the woods going. So you gotta be careful there. But, there are a number of pieces of technology. I'm looking for the pop flares. Since down they've offered the ground signaling flares, it is most likely that we'd be able to track down the illumination flares too in the process. They should be either British, German, and Japanese. The Japanese are the most powerful. I've been trying to find those first. I haven't seen anybody that's taken up on these. The ground players? Yes. Those are again UNAMMO.COM. You go to UNAMMO, let's see what they have left here. I'm trying to get to the page. I might be throwing you in a wild goose chase once again if they are all gone. But oh, wait a minute. They're showing them and they're showing a picture of them burning Don. Ok guys, just in case you don't know what a burning flare looks like, look at this! There we go. They have 8 of the yellow and they picked up, oh these are the Superbrite Marine Rescue flares, IKOROS 50 flares. These are the Swedish, they just got a different flavor in. Manufactured by IKOROS in Sweden, who is a subsidiary of the LEPUA. These are out of date single players for ocean vessels in distress made for an aircraft a spotty vessel day or night They're that bright at 15,000 CD. They are out of date per Coast Guard rigs, but they are they all work and yeah, I can tell you yes they do They have so many purposes. They are great to go camping with keeping the boat Again, like we said guys if all else fails light it and chuck it out beyond your position and well Stay down while the guys that are often covering fire from other directions have a way to observe what's in your area of operation and rake it from your position Get my drift whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, so anyway the price they have three cases of the Lapua or the Icoros or Icoros however, they pronounce that Icoros I probably They are $90 a case for 50 players They also have, of course, the Wessex, the Payne's Wessex, yellow flares. They have eight cases of those in stock. There are 50 to a case. They are $90 a case. That's at UNAMO.com. UNAMO.com. I don't see that they're actually identifying that Lapua flare as a specific color. looks to be orange to me, but that could be wrong, could be red or rated as red, rated as orange. Personally, I've never really carried it the way except for color, color for marking and specific signaling, just like we do with parachute or star shell air flares. These are individual projector, correct? Yes, each one has its own, it's in its own bag, they're in their own carrier. In fact, well, hold on here, let's see, these are all They are not in bags, they are just in the transport box. They are 50 to a case. They are sealed, they are already designed for long term storage in the lifeboats, life rafts, life pods. There are a number of different ways that they are stored. It is really interesting again that these have come out, but I haven't seen the parachute flares. Now the reason, I would be willing to bet they are all going east towards Ukraine. You've got a war going on, people aren't stupid. There's no restriction on illumination and flares typically. And they can make big money on star shell guys. Going into a combat zone? You know, they'd sell them to us and they'd sell them for what? You know, look at the retail price. If they're selling to us for $2, they're buying these on the jobber end for probably nickel a piece. Okay? Seriously. By the time you're done with all the paperwork and other BS, the price goes up. But when you're buying it for a nickel or a quarter a piece, selling them for $2 a piece is quite reasonable, making a good profit on them. And that's what they're supposed to do. However, the pop flares, they're probably still getting those for the parachute flares. They're probably getting those for the same price, maybe a nickel or a quarter a piece. But guys selling them in a war zone, hey, charge what the market will bear, kids. Charge what the market will bear. I guarantee that's what's happening. Last time when these came out we had dye markers, ground flares, parachute flares, star clusters of all types, and they were all brand new, modern issue. Somebody may have them because the other problem that's happening is everybody is competing for these this time around. not just outside the country but even inside the US. I've been talking to the wholesalers and one of the guys like he said most recently is guys have been swooping in and bidding, and over bidding to get the product because they can't find it anywhere else. So they're driving the price up and they're also, they're sharking on each other now like they have not in the past. And that doesn't happen very often in the industry because usually it's live and let live, hey there's more out there. Well the attitude is no there's not. So, there's definitely a way there's a bidding war going on top of everything else between the foreigners overseas that are buying from the other foreigners that are importing and those people here that would like to buy it to sell it to you but can't get it. That's where the market is right now. So, just something that's a heads up. Illumination is priceless. Even these, hey, how far can you heave something? You know what I mean? If you think about it, if you're a forward position and you're an OP but not a neutral LPOP but say an observation illumination post, chuck in one of these down range and unarsing the area of activity so that everybody else can return fire accordingly based upon observation. These can be dropped into an area and then dropped again and then dropped again in a number of different ways. So that they could be used to illuminate, and again, ground illuminate, shadows. In close pursuit, like you're describing, it can be used to divert your opponent to a place of your choice. Nobody wants to walk into that lighted area in the dark, do they? Because they would figure that, well, there must be a reason you dropped a flare. The other thing to tie in with that, and think we're bringing it up, is throw smoke. You throw a flare and then you throw smoke. The illumination helps to block and screen, especially at night. Think of all the other complications. If the people are not all night vision capable and they're using natural night vision, number one, the illumination flare combined with the smoke will block observation. Then you have night blindness following that with obstruction. In other words, the smoke is still distributing through the area. Now, you get into colored smoke in purple or in black and it would create the impression that you're literally walking into a wall of nothing. My night vision isn't working. Yeah, it really isn't. And these are tricks we have used, guys. But again, ground and overhead illumination, if you don't have enough night vision, make the nighttime daytime. The other thing that's sneaky about black smoke, particular against the brigands, They don't see it at night and they walk into the cloth choker area. Because for anybody who's in that situation not knowing what you just got hit with look at the psychological coaching That's already taking place around the world with what you've seen trying to give me Ebola Yeah from over the border or from the air take your pick from Rwanda. I would know not from a wonder from Liberia Yeah, Rwanda is treating us all as plague plague carriers now, which I thought was gonna cue both Spain the Spanish and Americans if you go to Rwanda They want to do a background in quarantine your hours, and rightly so, as far as I can see. We're the ones that are idiots and have let everybody in to disease us up. We're the ones who let the management do that to us. We should be treated for being stupid. Real quick, they're not the only countries. The Caribbean's doing it too, that cruise ship with the person who handled the Ebola blood, the lab technician. And they wouldn't let anybody off the boat. So it's on its way back to Galveston port right here where Shelley works dad. Yeah Well, no, that's what I figured. It's like everybody else is gonna go. No. No, we're not we're not as dumb as you are No, we're not. No. Thank you. Goodbye Time to leave leave now and now they were asserted themselves in that go ahead color This is Mike from Ohio. I was just wondering if you got a hold of Captain Monahan As a matter of fact, unfortunately the funeral kind of tied us up. I did have him here. He had a truck problem. Had to change out the alternator. A brand new truck actually. Typical. I'll be talking to him tonight. Okay, you should be by if everything goes well, but we'll find out if not it's because we're still trying to get down there Unfortunately the last day or two here tied us up for the funeral for that wasn't scheduled it happened the way it happened. You know how that is? Yeah, well Unfortunately happened like that so appreciate that and again, we'll get back to you as soon as we can I and I know we got to get that out of there Yeah, well, I've been lucky so far. Oh the bank's just haven't showed up Everybody's busy doing something else, thank goodness. Yeah, sometimes it does work out that way. One day I'd like to talk to you about maybe I'm looking to get some property up there because I've been having some heart problems and I got a relative that's up there to nurse and you know I'm looking to move to get a little closer so in case something happens. So I'm looking to work. Well there's actually some nice real estate up to where Don is right now. So well, I don't know how far north you want to go though. Yeah, not quite that far in between like Jackson or where you're at or maybe I'm there. Okay. Well, yeah, we can give you better. I would look in the Adrian area Adrian it's a it's a college town, but it's a college town where the traffic so heavy they removed all the stoplights from Main Street Well, I'm kind of looking for some land where I could just put up like a cabin for off the grid As a matter of fact, also the economy is soft because a lot of the companies that were there have left. And so the property prices have come down. There are some actually some pretty decent pieces of property north of and west of Adrian that we've looked at. One or two even have airports, have runways. Well, you know where I took where I lived, you know, we got Air Force Base and Army Reserve, plus the neighborhood just, you know, it's just full of criminals now. You know so then I have no respect their elders and all they want to do is just you know Try to rough shot over everybody So I'm like 16 to 18 years younger than them and always getting in my face thinking they're gonna kick my butt But they ain't got the you know the guts to do anything So yeah, yeah, I don't Time to honor the AO and head on down the road Yeah, plus my heart, you know, if I do duke it out with them, even if I do win, I'll probably have a heart attack afterwards. More and more, it's best to make them bleed over there. Yeah. The problem with waging war against people who are older, Eventually, it's just realized you cannot run that 1911. Hold still. Not to mention if I hit you as hard as I can, I might just break my hand. I had somebody in the medical field say, oh, they don't have respect for you. Well, I was trained. He was in the military. He says, I'll tell you exactly what you did do. He says, they don't go to the hospital in 20 minutes. 25 minutes, you're dead. I've been around so I've got a few tricks. I've had three older brothers. There's a life lesson unto itself. I've been around the world so if I can get a hold of them. I'll rip it out. It would be nice to see that Wilder go to a good place. I'm going to be listening from another location even as we speak so he needs to get back with me and then we can hook up with you. Actually, I can get him to hook up with you direct. That's what I'm trying to do. Okay, sounds good. Oh no, we're already at the top of the hour. Yes, we are. Anything else, sir? We're all about to do it. Be careful. Pay attention and we'll let you know what's going on here as soon as we can. As soon as we can get hold of him, we'll get hold of you. Thanks Mark. Thank you. And Don, your number for night vision here will be available in just a minute, sir. Hey, goggles or gun sights, give me a call. My number is 231-7968458. Very good. Hey, by the way, UN ammo just got linked machine gun ammunition for the Browning 1919. Thousand rounds, $730 delivered. In the belts, in the 30 caliber cans, four cans to a case, guys. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march both day and night. Hunt them down, beat them down hard, destroy all of them and let nothing but a rumor of their destruction return to where they came from and then go hump the people who sent them to bother you. Don, your number for night vision, give it out a couple more times, please, and then close it. Hey, green screens are thermal, goggles are gun sights. Two, three, one, seven, nine, six, eight, four, five, eight. Goggles are gun sights, green screens are thermal. Give me a call. Two, three, one, seven, nine, six, eight, four, five, eight. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless you, America. Please stand by while we try to reconnect. by the words he said. If it's an ugly mansion, how?