October 9, 2014
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1h 1m
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2014
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Mark Koernke discussed the Ebola crisis and government mismanagement, criticizing federal authorities for failing to contain the disease and calling for their arrest and prosecution. He covered preparedness equipment including gas masks (Polish M10, Serbian M2-M3, German Draeger), chemical suits, and related protective gear available through various suppliers. He provided detailed guidance on gas mask selection for families of different sizes, decontamination procedures, filter maintenance, and NBC defense systems. The show included commentary on Mexican government corruption and disappearances, bodyguard violence against journalists, and equipment sourcing for militia preparedness.
- ebola
- quarantine
- gas masks
- chemical suits
- preparedness
- nbc defense
- decontamination
- militia equipment
- maine military
- sportsman's guide
- federal government
- constitutional rights
- mexico
- government corruption
- protective gear
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Live 365 Thank you for listening to Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com. Are your local stores sold out of ammunition? Call or visit them today for prices on hard to find ammo and bulk ammo orders. You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because mainmilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at mainmilitary.com. That's main like the state military.com. I had a dream the other night that well I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the good? afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report I'm our corny One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories West South East and North Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on Liberty Tree radio dot 4 mg calm Indiana Freedom Talk radio calm running and I've had micro stations CB base stations and Ultra Net Technologies East and West of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 3rd, the 5th, and our friends in the recall state of Colorado, waving to the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson. We turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, and land in the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge, where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, OK teams, and the Montville Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work. a million petticoat junction operators. Doo doo doo, petticoat junction. Come ride the alternate communications service that is rolling down the track to the junction. Wait a minute, that's not what he said. Anyway, it is a beautiful Thursday. It is clearing up outside. That means it's going to get cold tonight. So be prepared for cold. That means we need to be squaring away our technologies, making sure that everything is covered up. If it's plants that need to stay alive, and to figure one of these nights we're going to be getting some major frost. It's not an F, just a when. So far we haven't. Some places north have. So right now in the bottom of the state of Michigan, where we're down there on the flats and the low ones, not so much here, kids. We still got some warm hanging around at night. It won't last for long though if we have these clear evenings, which are typical fall evenings. So we can't really stop that either. It is Thursday, as I said. It is the Well, we're ticking down the days here to Knob Creek. It's the 9th of October, 6th year of open Fabian Socialist occupation of America with a K2014 Old Earth calendar or Nostradamus Doom calendar in every... So again, if you embrace it, if you want the doom, embrace the doom! I feel so horrible! Anyway, so... A couple things going on of course, how after the gate's gone, you know, gate, cows gone and they're shutting the gate after the fact. What difference will it mean to quarantine anything considering that they should have stopped this from the get-go? You know what I mean? This is now purely engineered, but anything that happens from this point, the regime needs to be arrested and walk down the shot. They need to be arrested, need to be tried, they should be They tried for war actions against the American people. That's what the regime did. They left the door wide open. They haven't stopped the flights. They didn't contain the disease. Instead, they decided to keep right on, letting it travel. And everybody knows they could have stopped it. Everybody knows. So there's nobody lying here. The only thing everybody's doing now is going to stupid brain fart. We're just kind of plotting along. uh... let's see what the one here job a d r in the chatroom connecticut uh... health department gets part of quarantine possible boy victims yeah and uh... where they come from how did we get them here all that's not i'm i'm waiting for this one let's not play the blame game here grateful that one whoever says that we should walk out just be with you by four to death we think First person that says that, let's not do the bling. There's no need to know what they know how to do their job. Then they should be fired, and they should be arrested, and they should be put in prison with Ebola patients. Put in the hospital, but locked up so they can't get away. Do you think they'd gnaw their arm off if you handcuffed them to a bed? Do you think? Well, it's kind of interesting to watch. Yeah, put it on camera. That would be a start. What you don't tell them is all the windows are covered with one inch Lexan and the room is cement block and all of the doors are zipped shut. In other words, Lexan panels are locked in place so that you may look like you can get out, but in reality, nah. You're right there with the Ebola patient you created and you're going to stay right there with him every step of the way. He probably gnaws his arm off, which would be kind of cool, and you can put that on national television, and then you could just watch him dance around trying to stop himself from bleeding. And if it looks like he can't, then you get in there and you do stop it. Tie it off and cauterize it with some hot iron or something, and then walk out of the room again and leave him. You might have to club him once to drive him senseless, and then leave the room and leave him with the Ebola patient that's one step away from turning into a blubbery plonoplasm. You know what I mean? Oh, sticky pile of ooze in bed. Oh, isn't that special? Yeah, that would be. I'm just already thinking of ways to punish these characters for what they've done because they need to be, of course, punished. This should never have happened or gone to any direction, any of this, not the upper respiratory diseases. We are being betrayed. We have been betrayed. It is the internationalist fault. It is the internationalist fault. The progressive, the queers, the faggots that are in our government need to be rounded up. They need to be put out of this country, although ideally put them in a barge. There you go. Put them on a ship, but bolt them into place with grates and just keep them on a ship somewhere at sea until there's no noise or anything that comes from it. What do you think? There's another solution right there. Well, this is an interesting story, actually. JD just posted. I know it's in Henry's From the Trenches World Report, and I caught this earlier. It's just in the scroll. Harry reads, bodyguard, attacks somebody. You've got to remember that bodyguards are there for and royalty, of course, is going to get more antsy and antsy about the idea that we peasants are around. At a given point, though, somebody is probably just going to get rid of the whole bunch of them standing there and there's nothing you're going to be able to do about it or stop it. But just be ready for it and go, ah, I told you so, and then laugh. Everybody laughed because the more that they've become fanatically abusive and the more rabid they become while they helped to make this disaster possible while they promoted it while they created it then those are the ones like Reed and all the rest of this regime are to blame for what's happening right now all the rest of this regime and not one of them is innocent not one of them. Go ahead color. He puts his muddy face on this comeback. He acts like a grandmother. He's a real lobster. I used to live in Nevada. And this clown on voting day, whenever anybody would start to come close to his numbers on voting day, if they were running a yes for Senate, he would, he's a part of his district's electronic voting but not our failure. And all the voting machines were shut down like three hours before the vote comes to us. What kind of guy this is? He's a special one, Mark. Well, that's why again, what are those for? All those are battery backups for all the computers, so when the power is interrupted, we've got 24 hours of operation. What? Yeah, I got them at China Sport down the street. We aren't going to have any problem with that, right? Well, you can't. Yeah, we can. We can do that. Yeah, but that reporter asked a really good question. How the hell did he accumulate $6 million on a government salary? On a government salary? Well, because he makes sure that all the desert tortoise are on everybody else's property. That's what he was doing. Yeah, that really pissed the potty guard off because that reflects on his salary too. So, you know, that's why the potty guard got mad. He just hit the pavement with blood, honey. Well the interesting thing oh darn. I just saw something there. I need to follow up on The interesting thing about this is again all he asked was that one question But you know he had to be either given a signal or you know again and typically that is the case that they're Now to the point where they're getting desperate and like I said a couple of bodyguards I'm going to slow down a whole bunch of people that'll mow their arse down with firearms or something if they're there We're on the edge of the storm And as long as they keep attacking people like this, that really this person is just talking, the more people are going to see that talking to them is like talking to the wall. And eventually, time to tear the house down is what everybody is going to decide. Yeah, why does it all fart like you're going to read these? They're two bodyguards for anyway. Well, actually, you've got all kinds of characters that have bodyguards. Hell, you've even got mayors now because of the chicanery where they've gotten involved with the agenda 21. It's happening all over the place. That's expected. They believe they're royalty. We all paid for it. And whatever part they might have paid for it, they got right off to the point where it's not costing them a penny. But I'll guarantee that's paid for with your tax dollars because they can vote and they'll vote their own bodyguards in. Think about it. What would they do? Well, hell yes. They'd be voting their own mercenaries. Now, President Lincoln doesn't have any bodyguards. Well, yeah, but they were, well, got to remember, they were guards. They had, they had, there were people around. It's just it was a different crew. But it was counted on that they'd do their job. And obviously at the theater one night they didn't. In fact, it appears they opened the door. You know what I mean? As far as to get into the building. So, just something to think about there. Anyway, that story is very interesting only like I said, if they'll do that, you know, progressively as people get to see this and watch what transpires, they're going to understand that there isn't any solution from the talking at-a-ment. That's pretty well out the door. And a lot of people are catching on to that. I think it's not an if, it's just a when. The only thing I say is gird yourself because a lot of people are not ready for this. For what is going to hit the fan. The oscillating device is going to get hit by some strange muddy stuff. That will be all she wrote. Then we're into the game. uh... one of the other things course they've been the epic about the characters are supposedly a popped out with a bowl here and there we know we know some of those right now that everybody's uh... a survey of the symptoms and is creating you know additional chaos for what reason i don't know but i'd like to know their last names and it really be fun to have a real i'd be for them uh... course they were stopped away in the perfect part about this kind of cameras if they are shite yours that are play actors the very nature of the disease and the scare that they've created is such that nobody wants to get close to them to find out who they are. Does everybody understand this is the perfect scam? Well, we need to find out who they are. Oh my god, I got to get in the ball. Oh god, I don't hear him. We want to know about him, whatever it is. Oh, he was faking by the way, or she was faking, because there's been a couple of these stories that have popped up now. Right in the middle of a high point of activity in the emergency room or whatever, all of a sudden here's this guy that pops into the guy or gal that pops in and complains of all the classic symptoms. And for whatever reason that they're doing this, well of course it's like throwing a fox into a hen house. Next thing you see people running like hell to get away and other people putting masks on and people stepping away from the person and doors slamming and you know you can hear you know electronic devices being turned on and radios squawking left right up and down the hallway. Can you imagine what it's like like when that emergency room when that happened and there's people that are trying to step back and slide out quietly looking around trying to see that nobody saw that they were leaving because they don't want to be locked down there. Think about it. I can just picture how that would work. I don't want to stay here with the sick people and I don't want to be here with the dying people. I think I'm leaving. Goodbye. So something just to think about there. I don't know, do it real quick here. Do we have Don with us? I thought I heard another ding in the background. I got to make sure. Don't want to leave Don out. Very good. Okay. There's so much stuff going on, of course. down in Mexico proper most people have probably seen the story and it is important to understand that some of the population are getting fed up with people disappearing and it turns out now of course it doesn't mean there's anything better going on college professors let's see hyper leftists complaining that they want to be the hyper leftist in charge instead of the other hyper leftist in charge See, that's the only thing that that's about. However, a bunch of the cops run by the drug cartels, read that, the federal government and the Israelis, as in our federal government, well, apparently did away with a whole bunch of people just kind of disappeared. Well, they could have just hit it on down the road, except where they did kind of live locally. So they have a body count, and now they want somebody to find out where the bodies are. Which is kind of interesting because if I were them I'd you know, of course that this upon its Mexican drama So rather than doing a grid, you know search With all the people they have that are willing to protest instead. They're demanding that the government, you know investigate blah blah blah blah blah Well, we all know what that means won't be much of anything done. So and that's not in Mexico if you think it's bad here Oh, come on guys. What do you think Mexico is like? You know think about it Do you think it's bad here for stuff going on? Oh my god. Wait, wait, you see what's happening on that end of the planet. Anyway, a couple other pieces of equipment. I'm going to check on this real quick. I want to just sidebar something here. I'm seeing them pop up. The Serbian steel helmets that are out there have the step, like the Kevlar helmet. One of the advantages of those is that again the US helmet covers now it's not as pronounced as a standard Kevlar or the old German Fritz helmet, but it's stepped enough that you can quite easily use the US camouflage covers that fit the Kevlar helmet that we have on that helmet. Which means that you blend in a little bit when it comes to rank and file with the troops depending on the camo pattern cover that you've chosen and uniform pattern you've chosen. Right now, we'll see, Sportsman's Guide apparently has them for about $14.95 a piece. I guarantee that we can do better than that because I know who they're buying them from. I just haven't got a response back from the company on that yet. So I'll find out more and we'll see what we can do. We're in the same people that also deal with a lot of the other fleck-turn camels, which I'm trying to make a deal on in quantity somebody's already asked for. We'll see what we can do to track down or hunt down the particular pattern that we need and then we'll go from there. But actually they make a foot, remember guys, the Germans make a Kevlar helmet so the German Flectern Camel will fit on that helmet if it's for the Fritz. If it's for the US M1 piss pot, the steel, nope, that's a different helmet pattern. So again, I'll find out more about that. But it is a decent helmet. I've had them years ago. I just haven't seen them for quite some time and apparently there's a little wave of them that came in again. So I'll find out more about that as quickly as we can and then we'll pass that on to the guys who were asking about those last about two days ago and then follow up on that. Also, not very many masks at Sportsman's Guide but they got the Polish M10 in. They've got the Polish M10. Now, what's interesting about this is that the poles apparently went with the, as far as I can see, and I have checked some of the paperwork and it does make sense, looks like they went with an M17 type bag or they made it up an M17 bag to it. But the bags that the poles were using, because they Americanized over the last, well, since the fall of the wall, to a degree, Their M10 is much like our M17 so all of the odds and ends that we could hand over the poles that would be on the cheap or that they could pick up across the wire. They did. And this is pretty cool. However, it is another system. I have to cross reference parts. I do not know if the outer filter caplets work or are interchangeable between the check the Czech, the German and the Pole M10s. But as soon as I have the information on those, I'll pass it on to you. The Buyers Club is $13.50 a piece. Now these are really nothing more than the M10 and you can get them for about the same price from Maine. And to be quite honest, I get them from Maine military. I get the M10 type mass from Maine first. until Maine runs out. Sportsman's Guide is $15 a piece. It's about average price for that particular gas mask but it is a decent mask. Now the three masks that they have, they have brand new German Draeger masks for $36 the membership price $40 their price. Now the Draeger is a NATO's last German standard mask. The Belgians used it too along with the Dutch and the Danish It's a good mask. It's OD green. Easy one to spot because not many masks are made in the OD green colors. And this is an OD green colored mask, which is actually pretty cool for most of the seasons color-wise. The other mask that they have is the Serbian M2-M3 that I told you about before. They want $20 for those. So again, the Polish M10 is the cheapest at $15. But those are the only three gas masks that they have available. Now the Draeger is state of the art, actually all of these masks are state of the art. None of these masks are obsolete. But the Draegers are being used by a wide number of companies and countries and have been used for quite some time. So these masks that are brand new out of the bag, it's not a bad buy for $40. It is a middle step. There's nothing to write home about any gas masks. There aren't so many things a gas mask can do. In this case, the Dragers are a decent mass though. A lot of you guys already have hundreds of them for your units and such because we bought many of them back in the years ago. This particular wave, these brand new ones look really good. Even the used ones that came in look like they're in very good excellent condition like, I don't know, maybe they were out of the box and then they just put them back on the shelf. The Serbian masks are a Nokia mask. The Serbian masks, remember, are finish made. Serbia doesn't make their own masks. They bought the same mask that Finland was using. They're made by Nokia, only they're again closer to the M9 mask than the M61 Finn mask in color and general configuration. They don't have the cold weather fixtures built in. that are on the M61. You've got to remember Finland has parts of its country in the Arctic Circle. They have to deal with cold weather constantly. All of their weapons systems, all of their gear is oriented to a big chunk of their season which is cold. So always remember that. If it says finish, if it's been Trust me, it's built for the cold. Even when it's warm, it's cool. It's north up there. It's like being in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan is what it's like, guys. Even during the summer, it's cool. It's not really hot, hot, hot like cooking hot. It's warm, but I'll tell you what, when the sun goes, so does the heat. Okay? So just something to catch up on there. Those three, that Sportsman's Guide, those are the only three masks that they have. I promised again I checked with one of the other companies, Wholesalers, no new items in as far as the gas masks yet. They were thinking maybe they would get another Serbian mask in or at least a wave of the same that they already had before. So far it's not the case. Of course they're still offloading stuff from another container so who knows. I'll find out more tomorrow. Another company that I have mentioned here And again, that is talking about KeepShooting.com. KeepShooting.com. KeepShooting.com. Oh, I didn't post it there. Sorry about that, guys. www.KeepShooting.com. Now, case in point, by the way, a little sub question. But most people are probably going, well, Mark. I see those guys wearing air tanks. Yes, they're using the Scott Air, Vex Air, or a Sea Air. There's a number of different companies out there. Air Pack System. Guys, those air pack systems, if they're sealed, are only good for so much time in service. Then they have to refill the tanks or change the tanks out. Now that sounds real cool, but how many tanks can you carry if you're going far in the field, or if you're moving around? Granted you can add more and we do have Scott air packs and such the people have donated and they're stuck off to the side They're not going to be they're not tossed away. In fact, they're ready to roll But you have to be relatively mobile. The system has to be transportable So I can't stress enough the idea that remember there there are different levels of mass as far as how new but pretty much any gas mask you're seeing that's surplus right now is still in service somewhere There aren't enough gas masks to go around. It's just that simple. There are not enough gas masks, even militarily, there are not enough to go around. Now I guarantee somebody's cranking them out even as we speak and there are several companies, mostly the Germans, that are doing a large quantity, but one of the reasons I want to bring up the... let's see if they still have them. This morning they did. I was looking for children's masks, infant masks. The first place you look is, of course, main military. He may or may not have them in stock. This is weird. Hold on here a second, guys. Okay, they are showing it. And in theory, it's in stock. at KeepShooting.com. They have the children's and infant's masks. Now, the tiny, tiny children's masks are size zero. Now, you've got to remember, there's a scaling system, just like the adult system. The children's system works in halves, quarters, and whatever. Russian child's mask, this has the newer 40 millimeter, smaller 40 millimeter filter, the mask, and a bag to carry everything in, $14. It is a Russian system. There aren't that many of these out there, so if you do need a few, I would grab a couple of these. Again, that's at KeepShooting.com, KeepShooting.com, 877-703-2767. The other option is to come up with a carry system with a positive pressure flow. BK was working on that particular project, of course, here a little while back. Other friends of ours have built forced air systems for medical, you know, medically impaired personnel, people that were bedridden, and for individuals who had major debilitation, were injured and, you know, virtually incapacitated. It barely matters who you have in your group and how they can, again, affect plumbing systems, how they can build a sealed plumbing system. That's really all the gas mass system is, guys. It's a micro H&V unit. Look at it that way. Heating and ventilation unit. Anyway, as it is, they do have the Russian children's masks still in stock. If you're looking at a small child, but a small to a medium to a large in children, size zero and the size one adult masks. Recommendation, the possum masks. Size zero. If you ask the people who are selling the masks, you tell them you want the small sizes. They would make an effort to dig those out for you because not a lot of people that think about getting the small sizes or typically don't want them. If we're having to outfit families and you have a wide range of people sizes, the Russian possum mask, the Czech possum mask, there's a black or the tan ones, you know, or give me the gray, green ones, whichever model you've got or that you can find reasonably priced. Remember that those masks are again serviceable enough, but they are sized in a pretty wide range. Size 0, size 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. 2 to 3 is going to fit most of you. Size 2 and size 3. Size 4 is big. Size 5 is, yep, oh, he's got a big head. Typically, the guy is probably about 7 foot tall, but people have big heads. And also small heads. But children especially, rather than going, oh my god, I can't find a children's mask anywhere. The Israeli skull type possum mask, the one that covers the whole of the head, there are several variations. Large eye holes, small eye holes, etc. It doesn't make any difference which one. Those masks with the small sizes, zero and size one, will fit many of the children comfortably. They'll seal, they work, they've got large eye pieces with most of them, although they do make a tiny eye hole version. Which is actually less likely to have fractures or damage in other words, that's why they were built the way they were. Also, they're typically armored up around the brow if you haven't noticed the way they built them. All of these masks are designed to circulate air over the eyepiece to try and reduce, well actually it's a cycle system to help reduce fog and smog on the windshield on the inside, you know on the eyepieces. So just something to think about there. There was a discussion about maintenance. Remember wipe them down, keep them dry and again we're not going to go as heavy into that for the moment but remember guys, basic rules with regard to cleanliness when it comes to the gas masks. Next, chem suits. Well, I hate to tell you, not looking good on chem suits. There are some out there, but a lot of them are gone. And the price has already jacked on them. Couldn't help that, just where things have gone now. So I'm looking for, west of the Mississippi, we have a couple of companies that may have, and the key is here, may have, chem suits available. There are packets round of the ball. Oh darn. Well, it looks like the Forshita A4 gas masks are already gone guys. That's the new Swedish military mask. I mentioned that before that it had come into the market. Looks like whatever they had is already sold out. Sorry about that. I was just looking to give you a reference on that. Again, that mask was about $100 a unit. You can see the influence of the M9 and in fact if you trained with the M9 and you switched over to the Forshita mask for the Swedish or for the Finn troops or whoever, total cross reference, everything is pretty much the same. If you learned on one, if you learned on the one bicycle, you should be able to ride the other. See how that works? So, again, that's another mask that's gone. Probably everybody goes, it was more valuable, it's more expensive. Well, it is newer in that respect. But pretty much it's just, you know, I can buy a lot more of the other masks for, I don't know, like four or five or six of them for the price. So just something to consider there and keep in mind. Next. Unfortunately, I was going to mention something else, but I don't need to because they sold out. Oh, right. Well, it looks like the chem suits are gone from two different companies. I was checking on it. I do not see any good quantities of chem suits with, in fact, I don't see anything with KeepShooting.com. They had a couple, but they do have the gas mask. Related items are all listed, but it looks like they're chem suits are pretty well down the road. So it's going to be catch as catch can and I'm going to do a little more of a survey. I'll have to do it tomorrow. It's too late in the day now, but I'll do more of a survey again tomorrow on the subject of chem suits. Any help? Anybody spot anything? Take note of it. Write it down. Pass it on. We need to make sure that everybody gets a chance to scarf them up before strangers do. We've got a lot of friends out there. So let's see if we can help them out a little bit. Boy, this is really... That's worthless. Well, a couple of these companies, they just sold out today. And that's not a surprise. Mark, how does a chemistry protect your... around your neck area? Just the hood. Well, you've got to remember the way it depends. There are different systems, number one. Like the Mark III, if you look at the Mark III NATO systems, and the American model, depending on what year, they have a built-in hood so it covers the neck and comes up and then cinches around the gas mask. Many of these, depending upon, again, the chem suits were designed and in fact engineered for a family of gas masks. The Mark III NATOs at the time when they were built, the standard M9 or the GSG masks, the resuscitators all had the filters in the side and were the 60 millimeter filters. The Mark IVs overlap with other technology and they're a good system. They're in fact very well made. Those are made available in size medium through main military. Now depending on the model they have a full hood. Not just simply something that comes up to seal the neck, but they cover the whole gas mask in the back. Now, the big change out was that, and again it's a philosophy thing, it's purely a flavor thing, you know, what does one group believe in over the other? And so what you've got is some systems, the hood for the gas mask isn't a mandatory integrated part of the system. On the M7, well on the M9, the M17, the M40, all of those have a gas mask hood that's to be attached. which of course covers the front of the mask, it wraps around the eyelets, around the voice mitter, and around the filter inlet. Because of that, it also drapes over the shoulders, so it covers the neck. So either way, your neck is covered. That area is allowed to still articulate, so there's, again, a good, there's generous material there. In fact, if you look on the gas woods, You have a lot of materials. It allows for flexing the neck in any direction, bending your neck down without stretching and exposing anything. Left or right, even tilting your head backwards is not going to be an issue. That was all taken into consideration when they designed these things. But for instance, I'm going to double check as left. In three days, he went, but remember I told you guys, well actually, what was it, Thursday? The main military had the Mark IV chem suit for $3 for $15. Now they have three sizes. Now they have one size, which is cool, they got sized medium, and they're $8 apiece. So it's now $24 for three. That's not a great jump, but Fred's not going to bite the bullet because he had to resupply or he's had to tried to access out of the inventories and he checked the wholesalers and he found out what the new price is. I've told everybody this before. This is like when BK told you all to buy those 60 millimeter filters from Gun Parts Corp. Well guys Gun Parts Corp hadn't probably checked the you know the pricing plus they made a big deal on these things They probably bought a truckload or maybe a couple of cans full so they had a big pile and they wanted to move but then they went to one of the trade shows and found out with Kim you know what gas mass filters were going for and They've adjusted their price So anybody who got those back when BK was telling everybody over and over again to get the filters is sitting there smiling real happy. Those who may now need more filters but didn't get any, they're not going to be so happy because the price now is adjusted to the new world. The Mark 4s, this is the hooded model I'm pretty sure. Hold on here, let me double check to see if you even mentioned it. Now it looks like they're the hooded Mark 4s. Those again, offer would be duplicate protection. You could still use the hood with them because you roll down the, forgive me, your chem hood that goes on the mask, that could still be used with these. But typically what you do is roll the hood down near the NBC hood that's on the chem suit and then you would drape your gas mask hood over your shoulders the way you normally would, including the collar and everything. So it covers or it overlaps it, kind of like turtle shells, turtle necks, the way they work. not people turtle necks, but a turtle's neck and the way it works. Okay? That's where again, also gloves. I can't emphasize this enough. Wherever we found them cheap, the military rubber gloves were designed to deal with this environment. Somebody spent a lot of your tax dollars on this stuff to develop it. And for a change, you can get it reasonably priced, fairly cheap off the shelf. Now you can get Dollar Store Rub's glove Again, I would use that rather than nothing. In fact, we still need some of you to end up using those. You're going to have to. But remember that they're trying to minimize the material survival. Length of durability is going to be lower in terms of performance in the field by spares. Remember, that's one of those disposable items that if you feel it's compromised, you can take and unwrap yourself from it. You can peel yourself like a banana without contaminating yourself. Now remember that if we're not talking in an active environment, in other words, we're conservative making contact things, then in an open environment other than just having a peer point to dispose of or change things out, If it's not an absolute airborne aerosol concentration spray thing where you know it's something that has been dropped into the area, for instance, the concern over the Ebola issue would be to make sure you have the decontamination bucket or your biological hazard. And what you really need to do is have smaller bags ready so that when you dispose of items, they're individually sealed up. First of all, you open up a bag, you have it in a holder. You peel off the equipment, making sure that you do not make contact with the inner surface areas. Drop the gloves in there, don a new pair of gloves, seal up the bag with the gloves in it, and again, get it into the decont garbage barrel with caution. Precaution always, air on the side of caution, that's the basic rule. It was every row like basement or diver. Everything has a step-by-step process, followed step-by-step process. It doesn't mean you don't work fast. You can work as fast as you can, but work intelligently. That's the most important thing that you can take into consideration. Now when you're changing out filters, I would say do the same thing with filters, which is how you're trained in the military. Filters should be treated once they've been heavily used or if you know you've been through an environment You don't want to keep the questionable filter out in the air or exposed to the population. So you again deactivate the filter the same way. You change it out while you're wearing the mask or if you have a secure site you can actually change out and then progressively while still maintaining all of the standards for control. Pop the filter, drop the filter into the bag. Once you have changed out the other components to include the gloves, You're looking at deactivating all of these components. You might even have to get rid of the booties. You may even have to get rid of the rubber boots, depending upon what you went through. Were there bodies? Were there strange colored pools or fluid or material on the ground? Is there stuff that just didn't look right? Was it viscous? Did it stick? Did it leave a color-y, colorful, color-y thingy on your gear or your boots or something? Well, that's all in question then. And either decontamination or, again, de-vacuing that from your system and dropping it again into the decon bag, zip, tie it up, throw that in. I've got to be looking for your replacements and spares. The most important is spare filters, like we said a million times. Spare filters, spare filters, spare filters, and spare filters. It's kind of like firing pins and extractors on firearms, guys. There are certain things that you're going to need as part of your MVC defense. Now, you can have a second mask ready to go if you have an M10 system. I would have a second mask ready to go, cocked locked and sealed in a bag so that when the one has to be changed out, you bag that one up temporarily if need be and switch out to the other. If you don't have any confidence in the environment, then remember that you're probably going to be discarding that mask and the whole system and again, it's going into the biohazard category. It will vary depending upon, again, a combination of evaluation based upon your observation. And if you're lucky, other technicians or even government or other agency resources that may be surveying the area and may offer some kind of genuine information on contamination levels if there are any. Of course, the problem we have is can we have any confidence if they claim there isn't. So again, that's a question mark. I had a question come in on a separate message here the other day on the spikes and It had to do with these other chem suits again One thing about the mark two or mark forgive me the mark three two mark four chem suits is that they were all vacuum sealed and there is no doubt that they're vacuum sealed because if they break the vacuum if they've been taken out of the bag the They are vacuum packed and compressed and they won't go back into the bag they came out of okay There are some of these chem suit systems that have already been taken out of their containers or at least out of a transport bag. They're still active, they're still working, and again, they're better than dancing around barefoot naked. Remember that the sandwich filament that the chem suit, the gas capes and everything are made out of is designed for you to be able to breathe. because your whole body breathes. Every part of you takes in air and evacuates waste. So the gas masks and the chem suits are integrated in that respect. Levels of defense depend upon how much time you have and perceived threat. But the other ones like the new German five-piece chemical suits I would have to look to see how those have been stored as far as patterns. So far they all look excellent. The ones that I've seen look excellent. But as far as whether they're bagged or not, I do not know. The Czech stuff and the German stuff that's out there that's plastic is nothing more than their equivalent to the heavy garbage bags that I told you about, guys. The Czech Chem suit with canvas bag for $20 is a nice package. It's built to human specs. It has arms and legs and that's a big plus. But it is again, if you want you take a look at it, you're going to go, wow, what Mark was talking about. Really, remember because this stuff is all throw away, except for the fact this is a little more, has more stride and support. So it's, you know, again, more durable in several ways. But basically this stuff is, it's garbage bag throw away. It has to be. So they went with the minimal but most durable pattern of material they could find. It covers the hands, covers the arms, covers the feet, it's got the booties, it has the gloves, everything's there with a check kit. And it would be more than serviceable. I do not know about size. That's the only thing that I haven't had a chance to talk to Frank about because we have had those in good sizes but I don't know what the surplus industry has available. It's just that simple. You don't have to worry about purification per se as far as trying to filter anything because it's a self scrubbing system. There are advantages and disadvantages of that. It's the old story, how long can you work in a closed system? And remember that these have what are basically, most of them have what is an air, a fresh air tap it system, which you have to investigate some. Don't worry about filtering when you are above surface. It's the equivalent to snorkeling. And we need to make sure that we have filtering taking place, not just direct air contact. But if it's a closed system, most of them are, they're sealed sealed, then you have to again confirm the durability. How long can you stay locked up in that can, in that circle? Because once you go into that circle, the cycle is pretty consistent. There's a measurement time there. There's diminishing returns with regard to recycling and recycling and recycling. The Brits were offering one. I haven't seen it in a while. I haven't seen any of the surplus companies that are really offering it. The Rebriders, I would think we can go into the diving industry, which would be your best choice. And that's where you'd probably find them. The Navy, of course, has made them for years. And some companies on the East Coast, like in the Carolinas, surplus stores in Virginia, and strangely enough, on the West side of the Mississippi, several of the older surplus stores may have Navy rebreathers on the shelf. Soldier Fortune magazine used to advertise them but it's been so long ago and I don't know what SF, you know, what Soldier Fortune magazine is doing now. So they got their own mask and all that so you'd have your own, what do you call those things, regulator built into the mask and it would call it... Oh right, no, no, yeah, well it depends on the era. Some were a goggle type system but they're still a mask. Others, I believe the newer ones, are more of like a full face plate, at least for the half full face plate. And that's more of a Jacque Cousteau kind of pattern, like you used to see with Aqua Lung breathers that they made. That pattern has become the norm for the industry. Because again, panoramic view, you know, less claustrophobic. Yeah. That makes you laugh, I guess. Well, if you're a driver like you, you're like vehicle operators, boy, it'd be no more cumbersome than anything else as far as I go. Just remember, at some point you're going to be still, even if you had the rebraiser, you're still going to have to have a cover system for protecting the body. You still have to have, and the Navy made all of that. Here's the thing, you don't see much of the Navy stuff, because when the Navy used to get rid of stuff, you know what they do when they wanted to get rid of it? They'd walk it over to the fantail and send it to Davy Jones. That's what they used to do with everything. It was just drop and forget. Because of that, you don't see the naval surplus stuff out there the way you see the army and airport stuff. And the other problem you've got is, again, second party consumption. A lot of this stuff got passed. We're going to go break. Oh no, we're going to the top of the hour. Whoa! Already? A lot of these third world countries and second world countries got all this hand-me-down stuff and the Navy stuff is a minority product so there's even less of that to pass on down the road. That's where it went. We're gonna go to break, God bless the Republic. Now the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the Empire's on the run. So we're gonna go March 9th. Hurrah, keep the flag, beat them down hard and don't let them get back up. We'll be back in just a few minutes here, second hour of the intel report coming up. It is Thursday. On the edge of a revolution Thank you for listening to LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com. We all need to prepare ourselves. 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