Live 365. Thank you for bringing up aviation maps. For long range land navigation, one of the other advantages is that one way or another there are specific land, man made, natural and electronic fixtures that can be used for benchmarking and for orientation. And while you may not have that grid marker for that electronic beep, As you pointed out, a lot of these are mapped out based upon the aviation land nav markers. Yeah, the VOR is the VOR. The VOR is that... Well, the VOR is that cylindrical cone that you see stuck out in the middle of nowhere. That's ILS navigation. They got the NDB, which is just an antenna with a beacon. The good thing about the antennas is that, remember, they are typically lit. If you take an azimuth and you take an azimuth and you had an aviation map, you know that if you can line that up, if you know your location, you've identified your approximate location on the map, you look out to the horizon and you see it way out there at a little tiny blip going blink, blink, a little red light. Well, you're out in especially Oklahoma, Nebraska, Wyoming. Guys, there ain't a whole lot out there from point A to point B, except where some civilization is, there'll be FM radio towers, AM towers, etc. And aviation markers and industrial towers for other communications. Well, the cool thing is, it's pretty hard to get lost at night with those kind of markers in place, for the very reason you're talking about, because they are fixed, they are permanent, They have been established and are maintained by government, through government resources. So they are one of the last things that is actually going to go offline before the big switch gets hit and everything goes off. So, they make for very effective clandestine, especially para-conventional, unconventional support navigation technology with a compass. They're always going to be there, and once you confirm the azimuth and you go, yep, that's the marker I'm looking for, even though there might be other benchmarks out there like red lights from AM&FM stations, like we mentioned, or the new one that's out there, but they're really obvious, is the legions of wind fans. Remember, they all have blinker markers too. But hell, they're even easier to spot without a compass. Once you see them, they're on the horizon. If there's a cluster of them, there's anywhere from 50 to 180. I hope everybody's noticed how they all blink in unison. They're a lot bigger than they look on television. Yeah. The real cool thing is those are really convenient for, shall we say, general orientation to move in a macro motion. If I just needed to go out to the horizon, you had that, shoot that azimuth. I don't really have to pull the compass out again because out to the horizon I can first see the reflection of that wall of blinking lights that take up so many hundreds of acres. Then, later on, I can visibly observe. Other than adjustment around that area, which I will eventually do, I don't want to walk through an area like that because eventually those will be prioritized and they'll find some excuse to put people on the ground to monitor that area. For the sake of operational security. If you see the rotating beacon, that's always going to be an airport. One other thing you guys, you know, morse code, every aviation beacon has got morse code. So if you got the right radio equipment, you'll be able to send out a signal. You can tune in on the 440 frequencies, or you've got the other air nav frequencies, and you can be picking up either the track code that's going to give you a confirmation of what beacon you're listening to and where it is. 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It is the sixth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2014 older calendar Nostradamus do calendar do I say though? No, it's actually just fall and it's bad enough, but I guess well Paul's not bad payment anyway beautiful opportunity here And Now, a couple other things here I mentioned this morning. First of all, again, a short story here from the trenchesworldreport.com Foreign Press Center for Washington. Defense Department admits US troops in Liberia will come in contact with Ebola-infected individuals. Why? What are they going to do there? Well, go around and get in contact with Ebola-infected individuals. We need to do this. Otherwise, we won't have disaster, don't you know? So anyway just something to think about there, but in the meantime It's real quick. Yeah Thank you by the way Henry for re-posting the detox formula. I appreciate that. That's something That's what we've been talking about for quite some time here with regard to solutions guys not just lamenting about the problems See oh, yeah don't cruelty at top here felony but the make you know chopped off until your dog first thing your cat and it's okay when the fed to do that again anything to try and create as many crimes as possible personally people are harming animals for no reason do need to be hurt but we should be taking care of that personally old band swings because everything is dangerous well it's really cute and from scroll back for giving guys report back uh... Well, find them all. No, no, no, no, no. Make sure you again, sue them all and then take everything they own. I'm having to go back a ways here. I'm going to try and buy some time. There was a particular story here. Don't worry, Henry. I know it's a year scroll. I just got to find it. It's been one of those days. We've had a lot of visitors. We do have an individual who is gravely ill right now. May not make it through the day. We'll see what happens. Again, for all of our friends out there. Mr. White is in very, very serious condition. I think several of our friends already know this, but just a heads up that it's been very bad today. So, for our friends, a long time friend and fellow patriot, it is in need of your prayers as it stands. Again, this is something that we have pointed out before. Government knows about silver. Ionic silver, cloidal silver, guys, in whatever form it works. We've talked about the detox formula, we've brought that forward to everybody and I think you all understand, I've reemphasized it, I'll read it again this hour, we will have enough time I believe to do it. But I would point out that The system has got the...they already know. I believe that they personally know. Big pharmaceuticals are the ones who are really looking to make the profit. And silver, along with the detox technology, they're in their many variations on the theme, on the theme, we'll get the job done. The big thing is understanding that if we have a simple solution, well the last thing they want is a simple solution because they're creating crisis. And crisis is always this fake confusion when there really, really isn't any. Does everybody understand that? One of the things that gets me about this is having watched over and over again, we have to believe that the government that all of a sudden out of the blue Everybody just forgot to do their job. They all go into brain part. And in the process, of course, this is an example or a demonstration of how things are just so horrible and terrible and badliness that it were doomed because there's confusion. Well, the issue is not that difficult to understand a record brain around. It's not like it's hard to understand or explain to other people for that matter. It's like, okay, here's what we have. Here's the issue. Here's what the problem is. What can we do about it? Or how are we going to deal with this? Well, it's actually pretty straightforward. But if it's a simple solution that can quickly and easily be plugged in, well, then that kind of straightens out the rat nest of string that was intentionally mixed up and created. Instead of them using Hegelian dialectic thesis, antithesis, synthesis, you walk in and straighten the line out and they don't get to reach them with their greasy paws and show you how to do things because you are just so stupid or such an ignorant peasant. You could never figure this out for yourself. How about if we already figured out we were being played and we understand who is playing us and we deal with the problem accordingly? Well, you can't do that. Now, this is everything from what we call personal insurance policies run on through to all of the other processes. Personal defense is part of your personal insurance policy. Nuclear, biological, and chemical defense is part of your insurance policy. If we can make this situation a tactical issue where all of us can deal with it rather than thinking it's a strategic issue where somebody so far away that they don't care about your life supposedly is going to make all the critical decisions based on the idea that, well, their feces doesn't stink, yours does, while in reality they're offering no real solution. In fact, the solution could have been offered and dealt with in advance. So that the containment was complete from the get-go. It would never, never have gotten to where it is. In every aspect of what we see, it's like believing, I'm going to give you an example, although it's again a compressed version, but it's still true. You're never going to explain to me in any way without looking really stupid. Try to explain to me that 9-11 happened in any way, shape, or form the way they describe. Because you have to try to convince me that you got past the anal-retainant control freak Air Force. and the FAA. Now the only way you could do that is to shut switches off, which means that it wasn't confusion, it wasn't an accident, it didn't happen by some oopsie. It was step by step intentional cooperation. Maybe coerced cooperation, which is most likely the case, But it was still cooperation, not crisis, not confusion, and nobody knew what was going on. Everybody was so... We never thought about all BS. In fact, like 9-11, the very first thing that was discussed about skyscrapers was their incredible paranoid fear, which again turns out that, well, it could happen. We've already shown this historically. Planes will dart themselves into vertical objects, like buildings, skyscrapers, you name it. If they can find it, well, you can probably be collided with, and it has been, as has been proven. How durable the object is, is determined by codes and standards that were already established before the stuff was built because of the paranoia that was created or the fear that was created. So here we have in advance, far before, there's nothing about a plague outbreak that is going to surprise us. Now on the other hand, there are a lot of tools we've had in the toolbox, but we always seem to have this myopic, very narrow and intentionally corralled and focused with blinders, position on how we should be dealing with it in terms of solutions. An example is when you have big pharma creating the problem by contaminating or creating the enhanced disease. then putting it out there into the market, in other words, cross-contaminating a percentage of the population, and then pointing to it and telling everybody, look, see how bad this is! You need a solution and guess what? We might actually have one right here for you! Oh, in other words, something as simple and easy to apply that doesn't require billions of dollars. No, no, it's going to take billions of your dollars. In fact, we're going to suck off that money government tit until the cows bones and weather. What do you think about that one? Which is exactly what they would do. I'll close it down borders. Again, these are all simple solutions. Shut the borders down. Our one caller was talking about the idea that you can't get out if they close the borders. To a degree, that is something I want to see happen for the moment. One of the things that's not discussed here, and I've repeated this over and over again, whoever's coming north doesn't stay here. Most of these characters are coming north with 60 mules with backpacks full of drugs, chemical weapons, biological weapons, nuclear ordnance, whatever it is they'd have in those backpacks. Nobody knows. And nobody's making any great effort to find out. And that's because by having that open border then we can help to develop part of the crisis. And it's not just the ground border, it's also the air border, the aviation situation. So then we have another completely different issue that has to be dealt with and that has to do with again, why, there even was a comment made, I think Henry posted it on his page, I don't have it right in front of me here where the, what was it, the CDC said that, well, closing the air border, you know, closing the air traffic would make it worse, it would spread faster. And it's like, really, explain to me how that works. I mean, think about it, if all of a sudden they're not flying to the other part of the world to cross contaminate the population, please tell me how that would make this thing spread faster. And it still comes down to, like everything else, this is the 21st century. Okay, let's use that yap. These are modern times. There isn't anything in Liberia or Sierra Leone that I need to see right now. There is no reason or any excuse for anybody who is in those countries to have to leave them for the time being. Why? Well they do business and grab a phone, pick it up and talk on the screen. Well they need to go touchy-feely. No they don't. They really, really don't. They wouldn't have to go out of business but they would be limited in of course their personal contact. Now, this is based on, again, the whole argument about why we have to hold the Ebola thing. Okay, now government is with this all up. And the whole thing could be a fake. Well, the way to neutralize it is it's not going to affect the rest of us because it's going to be contained. We're also not going to take any of our people and physically move them into the area. There is absolutely no credible excuse for putting troops, US troops, 3,000, 4,000, 6,000 of them into an Ebola infested environment. Non-zero. Zip. Yeah. Damn straight. Yeah. The only reason they're doing it is to get our people killed. If we believe their story, if they're telling us what they're telling us, then it makes no sense that they're doing that. Now, earlier in the scroll, Henry had a posting about talking about the attempted deliveries of silver into Sierra Leone. I'm the World Health Organization, stop it. And as I pointed out, back in 07, guys, I was explaining to everybody about this threat. But we also talked about, just like I'm talking about now, the use of silver and other tools that are homeopathic to deal with this problem that have been proven. Now, it's fascinating to me that that whole study done by the Air Force was done in 2008. And if you look at our archives, you would find in the 07-08 window, both with the radios doing the WTPRN and with the other work that we were doing with Liberty Tree Radio, which we've always done. I've talked about this time and time and time and time again. Well, apparently somebody passed on in that moment to somebody and they started looking at, gee, silver, which has been around forever. Silver goes back into the depths of time to be used for bacterial and viral neutral activity. It's why we have silverware. Why do we call it stainless steel? Why do we call it silverware? Where did the term come from people? Before we had plated silverware, which by the way now is in and of itself a collector's item because that's even unique. Solid silver sporks, knives and spoons were there for a reason. Because they were hygienic. Because that solid silver knife and that solid silver fork and that solid silver spoon helped to cut down and knock off the bacteria count. Oh, see how that works? I would go so far as to say it, well again, it's not an accident. In fact, you might even remember this. You've seen movies where, well, you know, like, let's see, here's one that everybody might remember. Charlton Heston, The Battle of New Orleans. Remember that? Man Without a Country. Remember that one with the, you know, remember the, you know, You know, John the Foot of course is the pirate and you'll bring a praise of pirates. Remember when the British officers are at the pirate outpost, the pirate center of control and the British officers are sitting around the table and he's talking about how the British government would pay him so many dollars. While they are busy eating and not paying attention to their environment, the second officer looks at me and goes, excuse me sir, look down at the plate that you have that you are eating on. He looks at it and he goes, that plate is solid gold. It is worth twice or three times what you just offered him as a bribe from your country. The table is full of that. There are two things there. Why was it gold? Why were plates and serving services gold or silver? Because both have the same decontamination value. Think about it. To the point, there's an old statement I mentioned this morning from years ago that gold and silver have a value that people do not recall because it goes back into the depths of time and they are still worshipping it but not for the original reason that it was a value. Well, it's because it can be a coin or it can be a, well, we really think about it. What do we know or what are we rediscovering about silver and gold that the ancients already knew, people in older times knew? It's just like talking about, you know, in biblical times. When Jesus was born, the gold, frankincense, and myrrh were offered and preferred as a great and noble gift. Now gold, needless to say, can be spent, but understand that gold, all of these had medical value. Every last one of them, both gold, frankincense, which by the way with the latest problems you're having right now with these upper respiratory issues guys, frankincense oil is available. Nancy has some of the essential oils here, and frankincense, if you've got that upper respiratory and that snotty nose and everything is like hard breathing, Try a little bit of the frankincense under the nose and around the ears, like on the edge of the ears, like where your air passages are, and watch to see the change. I never knew that. Yeah, it wasn't just an ornamental center, guys. Like everything, it served a purpose. Gold, frankincense, and myrrh. And that's why again we bring up the detox formula. But the silver, why do they not want it there? Well there's two things that they were going to, they're trying to get in there. Number one is the liquid ionic silver, although this looks to be, it's a little, not quite as fine as the waterhouse silver, but that's okay. The idea is that it's in stable format, designed for transport, they had a quantity of that, and they had it in gel pack form. Now, if somebody asked me about that after we did the program, what's that for? It's well, think about it, it's like in gel form like you use for burn patients where you have the nitri-gel or you have the other, again, so in fact, to be quite honest, typically, here's another little hint. For burn patients, what's the number one concern with burn patients? Infection. Let me give you a little hint about most of your preparatory, your betadine and your silvudine and other components that are part of your again burn patient treatment. You might notice there's a key word there and you might spell it and you'll figure out where silver is applied and then you have to ask yourself why? Well because once again it doesn't create any retrovirus activity. What it's designed to do is go in, silver goes in, shoots the infection in the head and it's done. It just kills it. It just walks up and blows its brains out. It's done. There's no counter virus development. There's no additional bacterial component that is developed that might be another secondary issue down the road. It walks in, it kills the infection or the infectious material or the bacteria, the virus, and it's gone. It's dead, it's finished. Then your body evacuates the corpse. Okay, it ain't talking yours. We're talking that alien object. Another point about silver that I brought up this morning, and I'm going to bring it up again. If you have had any major surgery, what they don't want to tell you is they always tell you, we're going to prep you for surgery, Fred. And it's like they give you information, but they very rarely tell you, well, what do they do to you after they knock you out? Well, count back from 100. 199. 90 97 gooby-doo Okay, well when you've got the Scooby-Doo, whatever that was that could have been 95 93 whatever When you're busy off in La La Land then they're breaking out the real tools and what are they gonna use? They suit use a silver nitrate prep. They are you're already in your little girl You know your girly gown they take that off and they wash your entire body with silver Oh, that's that little trade secret you're not supposed to know about. Remember that? Like that old advertisement? Ancient Chinese secret! Really? No it's not. Well it is ancient and the Chinese knew about silver too. But here's what's fascinating is the medical industry does too. But they're not really pushing it because well there's also this political correctness conditioning that's been applied. Now I kind of had to laugh because we know that yes you can overstock on silver. If you just guzzle it like water, like vitamin water, you know your skin color is going to change. You can actually start to build up a reserve, it's going to be retained in the flesh and it will change the shade of your skin. However, let me point something out, even if that were to happen, it would take a lot longer for you to die from that than the Ebola. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. or me having to worry over a many year period about my silver over consumption. I think I would take that risk with the silver over consumption over bodies liquefying the jelly any day. What do you guys think? Definitely. Yeah, you see what I mean? There's a point at which you look at people and go, are you stupid? Because the argument is, well, you know, people would get hold of it and some people might take too much. If that's the greatest risk I have, considering otherwise I'm talking about people turning to jelly, I think I'd be swamping the area with silver. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See? Anybody, take your pick. Dying a horrible death by inches while your body turns to jello. I mean worse than jello. Or taking the silver and actually killing the disease, but somebody gets a little crazy in the head and gives you a little more than you should have. I think I can figure out a way to deal with that later, can I? In fact, while I'm overcharged with the silver, do you think I'm going to be reactivated with the Ebola? Not so much. So I guess the math formula works plus-plus for me, doesn't it? Hey, being blue is not so bad. Exactly. And that's my point. You know what? At least I'm still breathing. And this is not likely to happen, guys. You have to take a lot, and I mean a lot of silver in order for that condition to take place. But they use those words. This is why they're trying to scare everybody from silver because with silver being used for a lot of these activities in an intelligent process, Which, by the way, any process right now would be better than turning to jello. Okay, turning to putrid, pubescent, you know, I forgive you pubescent, but putrid, you know, shall we say pink, fleshless, yuckly, blah, okay? It's just that simple. I mean, you should use pink slime. Yeah, pink slime, and they might even use you in somebody else's sausage, you know what I mean? Hey, Mark. Go ahead, color. When I had my surgery, they split me up like a stuck pig. I had a 15-inch incision. We were removing melon-sized tumors out of my colon, that kind of incision. When I was in recuperating, they basically threw me out of the hospital because I didn't have insurance. When I was directly out of surgery, they put a wound pump on. The wound pump closes the incision and keeps it closed with vacuum. It's about a $30,000 device. They wouldn't let me take one with me until I healed. I had to self-heal. I had to do everything myself. I sprayed silver right inside that incision was gaping. You know, Mark? Huge. I sprayed silver right inside every day. and it healed perfectly. Thank God. In fact, what's amazing is the lack of scar tissue with typically wounds that are treated that way, which they don't talk about either because the plastic surgeons don't make any money off either, do they? No. I got a lot of scar tissue. I don't know why. I just did, but I don't give a damn about that. Well, that happens. No, it's a large wound. You are going to. My dad, when he goes swimming, it looked like, wow, somebody really had a knife fight with you. My dad lost half everything and he was blasted open. The way they sealed him up, it's like they made cross stitches that were like checker boards. The way they did it is like a big long cut that goes from the upper chest down across to the belly, to the belt line on the left side. What happened to him? He was kawakazee to World War II. He lost half everything right off the bat. He was not a destroyer. He was not a destroyer in a 40mm gun. Japanese Betty Bomber came in and hit him on the broadside. He was in a death ward for 90 days. The thing is that when he was originally hit, He could put his arm inside himself up to his elbow. He did. He didn't realize what he was doing. He was checking himself. The way it happened, I'll give you the story real quick. We've got a few moments. World War II, Peleliou had just been not taken but was under invasion. They had pretty well taken a percentage of the island. They put destroyers out as pickets. He was on the James E. Craig. That's the name of his destroyer escort. Betty bombers were doing harassment raids. They were flying naps on the waves and it was a rolling sea. Not real heavy, but rolling. The Betty bombers coming in five feet off the waves at full prop and she was swinging. Well, the destroyer, his destroyer just happened to be in the right place at the right time and they just passed over the area with a bomber as they saw the bomber coming inland, you know, coming in towards the islands. Now it was miles out. They were out to sea. It's called a radar picket. What they would do is use the destroyers to create an increased radar range. So nobody got surprised by any of these raids. Well, the Betty Bomber literally went right past their fantail. The captain came over the clacks and he said, hey, boys, fire her up. That's what they were there for, air defense and radar enhancement. The five-inch guns fired, quad-gun fired, everybody with a weapon fired, 20mm, 50 cal. It was a grossly overgunned ship to begin with because it was an escort. My dad said they hit her from behind and the pilot knew he was hit hard and it was a bomb laden bomber had an inbound, not a run, not a plane leaving. So he swung up, turned around and a U came right back on the ship aimed for the engine compartment and at the water line. And every step of the way it takes longer for me to describe it than what happened. But what dad said is they were firing right up to the last second point blank range. The five inch guns cut loose with one last salvo each, boom, together. It went under the plane and drove it up off the water and instead of hitting at the water line which would have sunk the ship, It hit it deck line and just a little light, actually right at the deck line swept the 5 inch guns that saved the ship over to Davy Jones, took the infirmary box, you know that's that rectangle beyond the guns, behind the guns towards the stacks, took all of that and the quad gun and sent them off to the ocean. Killed everybody in the boiler room immediately, about 70 men, 60 some, 70 some men below decks right there. My dad was on the quad gun and him and another man, instead of going over to the Deep Six, which means I wouldn't have been here, he flew up and went from the aft section, just ahead of those five inch guns guys, flew all the way up and landed on the flying bridge on the left side of the bridge out on the deck. One of the other men, who was cut in two, apparently the prop chopped him right at the crotch level, shoved most of his innards all up to where his heart was. He landed by the torpedo tubes. There was only one set of torpedo tubes on this court. The front, the rear tubes were taken out and they put depth charges in there. Now, the depth charges didn't go off, the magazine didn't go off, but the front boiler room survived, back boiler room everybody was dead. Anybody after the infirmary and the officer's mess were gone. Everything was, you know, the rear end of the ship was pretty well scraped clean. He said he never passed out. He got slapped to blank, you know, or in other words, when he flew from one end of the ship to the other, he landed up by the bridge. He said he looked up for a second, he could see blue sky, and he realized the ship was still moving because he could feel the air. So he kind of angled his head up and he said from the funnel to the rear he was all on fire. And he thought I've got to get up. And then he said, oh wait a minute, maybe I better check. Maybe I better check myself first. So he said he took both hands and he felt his shoulders and he said, oh my shoulder blades are still there. And he said he felt his chest about, you know, where chest height where your pecs are. And he goes, oh, those are still there. And he said he reached down the next spot and he said, my arm went all the way to my elbow. He goes, oh, that's not good. I don't think I'm going to get up. He said he never passed out. When that was going on, he actually stayed cognizant all the while, but he just laid there until somebody finally found him. Did he have any infection problems later? Oh, well, that's just it. Back in the day, you got to remember, what they did is they put him on a PBY. First of all, the captain broke three standing orders, court-martialing orders, broke radio silence, called for a support, and he gave out his coordinates so the PBY could land to pick up the three wounded he had. You were either very, very dead, very badly wounded, three men, or you were alive. They were running on the forward boiler room. They had one screw left that was operational. That's what they were pushing the destroyer at because destroyers never stopped. Well, he actually did. He did one other thing that was the third item that was a court-martial offense. He stopped the ship at sea and got his three wounded men off. One was burned over like 80% of his body. He was horrible. He was boiled and burned. My dad was pretty well like WAPTA, scarped open. The other guy that was hurt was the prop injury. They put him on the PBY and took him back to Pella Lou. Got him there. The guy with the prop injury, but what my dad was telling me initially, they wouldn't do any work on him. They thought he was dead. As far as they were concerned, they wasn't any sense in working on him. Here's this guy laying there on a gurney with everything from his crotch all the way to the middle of his body shoved up into his chest cavity. My dad, he lost half everything, lung, kidney, a little chip in his stomach, part of his intestine, upper and lower, and of course, lots of blood. Well, they did the surgery on him and then the doctor said, well, Seaman Korky, we have done everything we can. You're going to have to recuperate. I do not think you're going to make it. Good luck. And then they plopped him over in the death ward. Nice. Well, they did it with everybody. It's like congratulations, if you've got the gumption to live, you can make it if not oh well. So it was a 300 man death ward and he spent, what, 90 days? in a death ward where you're supposed to only be there until you flop over and you're finished. What they did, it was the rainy season. The mud was up to the bottom of the cots. Talk about worrying about infection. Think about this. The guy had to come through. Everybody came through the tent. Everything was mucked up to just about the top of your calves. You had to walk through the muck to get to the patients. The one thing he remembers, there weren't any TVs, there was no radio, there was no music, there was no noise. You'd stare at a green ceiling for 90 days and see how that would be for you. Then on top of that, the big event was about every hour or two, a guy would come through with a 5 gallon kerosene can with a trickler nozzle on it and he would trickle kerosene on the mud to keep the infestation of mosquitoes down and bugs. So you have to smell a kerosene going through your nose live and then every hour a guy would come along and a nurse, a man would come along and give you a shot of morphine in one arm and give you a shot of penicillin G in the other. And then check your wounds to make sure it's sniffed to see if like you said there were any infections. They would change the dressings the way they were supposed to. But that's what his experience was for 90 days in that tent. Now while he was there they cleared the place out three times. Everybody died and they got new to putting in place each bed, one after another, after another. Now him and the guy that were with the prop injury, eventually after the first few days they realized, hey I'm not going to die. And the doctors realized, oh we better do something. So they actually started doing surgery and pulled everything down and started piecing him back together. And by the time, at the end of that 90 days, him, my dad, of course the same doctor came up to my dad and said, Semen Karky, you have survived. We are going to move you. We do not believe you are going to survive the move. You will probably die. Good luck. Seriously, that's exactly right. It's like, oh, okay, well, I guess I'm getting moved. They thought it was one tough man. Well, they got him on an LST, took him out in the middle of nowhere, and rendezvoused with a hospital ship, Solus. They transferred progressively. It was a mobile hospital, a ship hospital. There was the Solus, the Hope, and I think what was it, Goodwill or whatever. The solace, they took him over there and they started doing more surgery on my dad because they had more internal parts that had to be kind of put back together. He was, of course, progressively healing. They did more surgery on the other gentleman. The other guy was with him because they were being parallel transferred back to Hawaii by ship, by slow boat to China, so to speak. After they did the surgery on the solace with him and the other guy who they progressively were pulling his body parts back together, they were taking this guy and bringing him back from a couple inches separated left to right to where he was actually coming back together down below. His bowels had been sealed up so his organs were not going to dry out or anything. Then they put him on what they called the slow death march. They had the death fleet. Ghost Fleet. What it was, all these ships had been hit by kamikaze that survived. They put him on the Kitkin Bay, which was coming back to Pearl Harbor at five miles an hour, which is what the whole fleet was basically moving at. The one thing you remember about that is every morning they dump about 70 to 150 men over the side. It was an aircraft carrier. The Kitkin Bay was an aircraft carrier. It was one of the carriers that was ambushed in the Philippines by the Japanese battle wagons. They came in and hit the support fleet. And the Kitkin Bay, what he was saying, you could see from the flight deck all the way to the bilge. There were holes all the way from the flight deck to the bilge. And again, that ship was traveling under its own power, but with one engine room forward, and that's it. Now your father is still alive right? Oh yeah he's 93. Remember smoking will kill you. Think about this. I was laughing about that when people said smoking will kill you. My dad had one lung and he was still smoking. Everybody was. That's against me about this. Think about all the stuff he's gone through. On top of that he's 93. We are blessed with having him with us right now. Mom has been up and down. Dad, of course, has got problems too. You think about it, I just described, there is one little part of his life and I would say that is a compressed lot of hell on one pile. Yes, but by the time he got back to Hawaii, he was pretty well, you know, they still had to do surgery when they got to the hospital in Hawaii. The other guy, they got him there and that's where they finally were separated, but by that time he had about six inches worth of crotch. It still had to be pushed together and otherwise they had mostly put that man back to one piece. Yeah, those original doctor surgeons, those medics, He must be thinking them big time. They obviously knew what the hell they were doing. Well, he knew what they were doing, but they were also pretty coarse. I think the logic behind being gruff was to piss you off and get you to fight. You know what I mean? In other words, well, I'll show that bastard. I'm sorry, guys, but that's exactly him. He was thinking back. He said that's probably what they were doing because the idea is, well, that bugger doesn't think I'm going to make it. Well, I'll show his sorry-hind, Dad. I'm going to do it. Imagine everything down below shoved up below the edge of your rib cage. By the time they got to Hawaii, there was only a six inch area that was being pulled together because they had to get everything to heal. But they had already put the bones and knitted those together and he was almost complete. Every step of the way he kept telling them. He had just had an attitude. He said, you know Doc, by the time I'm done, I'm going to walk out of this place. Of course, they never kept him there one place for very long because they were slow boating him across the Pacific. That's before the day when they throw a guy in a plane and in 24 hours you'd be back in the United States. Americans were more defiant back then, I think, not certain places. It's interesting, too, that again, there are some things that did develop out of this. Think about this. He never had an infection. Like you were talking about, the infection didn't catch you. No infections caught up with him. That was the age of the square needle, like I've said before. and every time they gave you a shot, remember back in the day, medical support like that, those files. Anyway, well the thing about it is that he could get bit by a wasp, guys, and it wouldn't even affect him. It wasn't like he was even being bit. Seriously, I worked outside with him all the time. But all of a sudden, one year, we were way up in the middle of nowhere, up northward, and on a cabin, and he got bit. And I'll tell you what, he went from first the size of your fingernail to the size of your thumbnail, from the size of your thumbnail to the size of your fist. And of course, there weren't any hospitals up there back years ago. They were anywhere near where you could deal with a problem. So we headed south here and drove all the way down to the University of Michigan and got him down there. And of course, immediately they started treating him. It was an order of reaction. His neck was swelled up. I was sitting in the back seat when I was younger. I just watched it grow. It was like whoa, it was like there was another head popping on dad's shoulders. What it came down to was the doctor who was there. First thing he asked him, and I was sitting there with him when he goes, were you in World War II? He goes, well yeah, he does something the right age. You've got to remember this is back 20 years after the war. He goes, well yeah. Were you badly injured during the war? He goes, I don't know how many shots you got, but at a given point you hit the wall. For whatever reason there was a clock ticking and you hit the wall and now you're allergic to bees. So after that, it's a lethal reaction now. But if that's the price you've got to pay for surviving what he survived, I mean like I'm a clock, I don't think I worry too much about it. You know what I mean? Just pay attention and don't be in the wrong place at the right time. You know, get bit, pay attention to what you're doing, but first try not to get bit. like anybody else who has any other allergies. But that's just a side bar of some of the many things that came out of that. Another thing is years later he started to have, here's an example of things you don't know about. He started to have migraine headaches. Well, everybody would think, well, yeah, he probably got all kinds of neuro injuries. Yeah, he did, but something we didn't know until later and this was because of the amount of guys who carried that doctor. I know we've got to go. Turns out when he was hit with a blast, all of his teeth were shattered. But it took 10 years to find that because the teeth were so finely shattered they would hold together. But about 10 years out, they all started separating and the nerves were all exposed. Incredible. Yeah, well hey, again, I'm in the bottom of the ocean. He didn't die from his injuries and there were progressive other issues he had to deal with. And you know what? He's still got all the other things he's done. And by the way, he's 93 years old this year. The smoking is what's going to get him. Yeah, apply slipping up an annefield. Yeah, well, I'm hoping your feet are jagged along. Yeah, he's done pretty well and he's taking care of Mom, still leaving at 93, guys. Think about that. We are the cops. God bless the Republic. Now the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen the Empire is on the run. And we are the march. But thank God we're on the march day and night. We're all guys we're gonna be the solution not complaining about the problem but we need all your help to get it done. Stay focused stay on the mission get the job done let's breathe free again. We'll be back in a little bit. Meanwhile of course today is Tuesday so we've got YO coming up right behind us don't you touch that dial we'll be back bye bye. 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