October 3, 2014
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59m
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2014
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Mark Koernke discussed DIY firearm manufacturing, including AR-15 lower receiver production using affordable CNC machines ($1,200-$1,300), barrel manufacturing techniques, and design improvements for various rifle platforms including AK-47s and the Daewoo rifle. He covered field survival tactics, proper waste disposal in tactical situations, and ration pack engineering. The episode concluded with commentary on the Eric Frein manhunt in Pennsylvania, criticizing law enforcement's claims of knowledge while the suspect remained at large for three weeks.
- ar-15 lower receiver
- cnc machine
- diy firearms
- ak-47 manufacturing
- barrel production
- daewoo rifle
- field survival
- tactical waste disposal
- ration packs
- eric frein
- pennsylvania manhunt
- personal firearm production
- second amendment
- preparedness
- michigan
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Live 365 Yeah, or steampunk yeah, you relate to see now. You know what I mentioned earlier make it in the steam pocket You could you could antique it in the steam pocket. It looked like something from the steampunk series You really be neat be like what the hell is that? Well in the future. It is called an M6 something or other. I won six I think I don't know but it works well a copper coated e-shield. Yeah, oh yeah. Well you know what you can do for instance for the front, remember I mentioned this guys, if I were making an aircraft AR-15 gun, or if I was converting an M16 over, let me give you a little cool trick here. You take off the front hand guards. Now you're gonna, there's two ways you can do this, the cheaper way is to affect the cheaper part. Have you ever seen the copper tubing with the aluminum fins that's designed for rail or kickboard heating? Now, cut one the length of that inner guard area and now what you do is you cut it so it will slide right over the barrel and then lock in place with clamps. You now have a thin cooled barrel. Now think about putting that into an aircraft gun. You are using that on an aircraft. You take all the other extraneous parts off, go with a flat top receiver. You don't need sights. Even go with a flat top front, you know with a front end barrel, you know with the gaster burner, take the front sight right off, shave another ounce off or two. By the time you're done you can make a quad gun or a tri gun or a six gun system. That would be, well the gun would weigh no more than probably three and a half, four pounds. But it could be full auto, you put a hundred round beta drum in each gun and you got yourself some fire power from the air kids. Sweet. Now think about it. And that's where we got our football team. Can I pass you something please? Yeah, go ahead please. Yeah, I just got done with Broken Arms. They have jigs and receivers. They just did it a week ago. I want to say that when you're making one of these, you're not manufacturing. Don't say that. That's commerce. You'll follow their rules. We're not building another. You're not manufacturing. You're making your machine. We're not manufacturing general production. This is a personal consumption. Yes, of course. But they'll use the word manufacturing again. But I know we're used to using it where we're conditioned using that. Yeah. So all I want to say was that, they're trying to pass laws to stop us from now making anything better. Well, the problem is- Well, let's qualify something here. We're going to go right through the hour. Ed, don't worry about coming up with music or anything. And Ed, if you could stick around for a few minutes, it would be good. I've got to scram in a couple of minutes. Okay. One of the things to think about is when they passed all this garbage back when they declared war on us, one of the things they did to acquiesce to try and calm people down is, number one, it's perfectly legal for you to make fire water for yourself. Okay? Each individual in a family is allowed up to 200 gallons of whatever octane of alcohol you want to produce for personal consumption per year. Now, in addition to that, they also didn't want to tell anybody that while they said you've got to have a paper for the gun to make the gun in a serial number, what they didn't want to mention, though it was in the law from the get-go and still is, is that it's perfectly legitimate for you to make personal firearms for your own use and there's nothing they can do about it. That's why the only thing that they were terrified of is that you'd learn to make better weapons. you know, rather than making zip guns, you know, and of course then what they did is they came up with all these length requirements, you know, and dimension things which are purely arbitrary BS to try and harass people for ownership. It's all they are. They're garbage otherwise. Third world countries where people could own guns, Saddam Hussein's Iraq, they could own a machine gun all day. You can buy an AK-47 or a belt fed machine gun over the counter in sedams. Hail, sedams supposed hell which is all BS now we know that. Well anyway, over here in the land of the and the home of the slave, the restrictions are when you get just like you said, call her into commerce or you start talking about commerce. If we understand that we are manufacturing for personal consumption, Then we are in a very different world and that is the key to the whole thing. It is like open carry. Tennessee was just ooh-hooing because they have passed an open carry in their state. Guys, we are one of the most communist states or one of the more liberal states in the north, kind of like New York or outstate New York. Do you know that for as long as we have ever lived, open carry has always existed in Michigan? Never not taken away from us, but the average Michigander didn't have a clue, did he Don? Correct. In fact, they were all conditioned through the public fool system and through the communists and the police departments that, open carry, you're not allowed to open carry. Yeah, we are. And then they told the DNR to harass everybody over it. And you know what, the bottom line is, wait a minute, open carry, the law is on the books, it never changed. My dad told me this for years. He said, you know, it's perfectly legal for any person in Michigan to carry a handgun, open carry. And as he pointed out, the law basically, the way it's to interpret it is, if you can see it from three sides, It's legal. That's what it's all about. Make it a privilege rather than the fact that it's a right. Well, the same is true of the alcohol, the same is true of what we're talking about with guns. That's the whole point. That personal production of firearms, any weapon that you wish to produce, where we get into the thing where, again, you know they're going to try and screw you, is do not get into automatic weapons. Do not. as in fully automatic, bah-dah-dah-dah-dah. Why? Because they're propagandized to the point where there's no sense in it for the moment. My argument in that is I would rather have the biggest, heaviest, best weapons you can all carry kill the bugger on the other side, strip from his warm dead corpse all of those really nice factory made guns your tax dollars paid for, and go kill the rest of the buggers with those if you think you need an automatic weapon. Now, once a war starts, sky's the limit, I don't care what the hell we produce. And we need to have the working knowledge to know how to do that. That's the difference. Anyway, if you want to... Oh, we might need to have like a pint of bleach and a mist bottle. Just to clean up some of the mess they've left. Yeah, very light very light to sterilize Yeah, you know brain matter gray matter blood, you know stuff like that We want to want that creating bacterial issues on the new weapons. We've acquired from our enemy But that's not what they had. Yeah, that's the other problem. We might want to dip them That's true. We might want to dip them just to make sure we do a full sterilization on them I got an exit mark. Okay, and Don you remember night vision before you go, please. Hey that number is two three one seven nine six 845-8231796-8458. Thank you Mark, God bless you. Very good. Thank you sir. Thank you for sticking around. Okay, bye. We're going to be talking about this again at 8 o'clock too and getting into the same subject matter now. Let's qualify this. For anyone who hasn't heard the whole story or seen the postings that are on from the trenches, worldreport.com. That's not the only place where they were posted today. The story was posted, but for everybody out there, what we're talking about is a situation where the gentleman that produced the 3D guns Remember the last couple of years here, in fact he came up for a little bit and talked a little bit about it here on our program and then got up more into the Infowars circles on that because I think it was a little frustrated because as I pointed out the problem with the ideas for the amount of technology being burned The end result is useful but it is limited. Unless you start applying certain other technologies, what are your basic rules of firearms production when you are actually building something? Remember that basic physical laws apply and you have to remember that when you are doing other things or being creative with other devices. The idea is to hurt the bad guys, not for you to pull the trigger and for it to hurt you, right? That's why we need to remember these things about the basics of what they call the seven black books of gun manufacturing. More on that later on, but not right now. As it is, the way the story goes, the gentlemen basically what they have is a CNC system that will, upon purchasing it, $1,200 is what they offered the black box for. It's a CNC table top. It will produce an AR15, some automatic, lower receiver over and over and over again, which is a very nice thing. For $1200, everything is supposed to be plug and play by what they describe. So this is actually a pretty reasonable price, the package with all of the guides, the jigs. It's a standard CNC box, but with all the jigs and the guides and everything in place that you need, what it does is it cranks out a lower receiver in the white. So that's an air 15 lower receiver in the white. Now the only thing that I can see that would be interesting is remember we can buy 60% and 80% finished lower receivers that do not require paperwork. Now what's the advantage there? Well if somebody else has already run most of the precision micro cuts that need to be done, by being able to take an 80% lower and putting it into the same machine, you end up with a final product sooner and you put less wear and tear on your smaller piece of equipment. You see the advantage in that? So this is one of the other parts of the math formula that need to be brought forward. We need to remind everybody about that. Especially when it comes to operations of this type where you're trying to build things. You can build 100% from scratch. But If you can alleviate some of the steps, reduce the number of steps the machine has to make, then you are in a situation where what tooling you do have will last longer. Somebody else has done all the detail work and all the micro work that would heat up a lot of your time. In other words, for all the pin points and thread points and things of that nature where thread material needs to be threaded. This is something we've talked about with regard to leading up to the 80% receivers and having to finish the difference with your conventional tools at home. The advantage of this, what you do is one person would operate it, they would go through the process of building their own receiver, and then they take their receiver, walk away, and another person comes in with a component, walks up to the machine, walks up with the raw material, and then hits the button and builds their own again. See, the advantage of this is each person can operate the piece of machinery themselves. It's so simple, it is literally ridiculous. It's something that they are terrified of that will realize that off-the-shelf technology at this point These machines are actually, I'd say, what, four or five generations back by comparison to the very sophisticated machines that are being built right now. And the older machines are still being built. Obviously, this system is being built based on, again, industry standards. So it is an excellent solution, simple to operate. The basic rule is, remember, you're going to have to replace tooling if you want to keep running it for a long, long time. If you take a look at the video, you can get an idea for what it's doing. It operates indexes and like I said, you hear this, where it's cutting material away, shaving material away, shaving material away. If you look at the one receiver, if you pay attention, when the light hits it just right, you can see how the cutter indexes the metal. Take a look at that. You can see the cutting surface and how it works the aluminum. You actually can see where it indexes across and then does a 90 degree turn. And then it did it again. And then it did it again. And then it did it again. Well, it's shaving off all the metals, kind of like what the old sculptor said. The image is there. All I have to do is shave away the stuff that doesn't need to be there. And that's what they do. So it's a simple process. You're basically just putting the metal in. making sure that everything is at zero point. You hit the switch, confirm what you want, and the machine follows the jigs and the instruction, and it does its job. Now the next wave, they're not $1200, this is the other thing, if you pay attention to the latest article printed, and it's right there, the $1200 machine for making untraceable guns just sold out in 36 hours, that's the article. It is like the fourth or fifth article back from the top of the scroll on from the trenches worldreport.com. Now again, yeah, one, two, three, four. Well, it's like the fifth story down. As is pointed out, they already, they sold 200 of the machines. They have a contract run for 200 now. They are going to sell more, but now the next run will be $1,300, $100 more per machine. That's reasonable. The first machine batch were an introduction. It's not that they haven't perfected it. This machine has been perfected. The process actually is quite simple. One of the things I've actually mentioned, and I don't know if they did this, but you know, some companies have simplified the external finish process on the AR-15 lower receivers and made them a little lunkier. They're also building the uppers the same way. They're not contouring them or fluting them or, you know, beveling them. They're just making them flat as flat can be so that they're just minimal machine time. That is an intelligent process, and I don't know if they've done that with these yet. Most of them are the ones I've seen. Looks like a standard AR-15 lower receiver. I mean in all respects. So they've got all the fluting and all the knurling, etc. and the angles are all there. But externally not all of those are essential. Just something to think about. Stoner had the ability to do it. Obviously we do today. But what if we were to cut more corners to save more tooling time? That can be done. So just something to think about there. Now again, $1,300 is the next price for however many they designate at that price. I don't know if they're going to jack the price again, but what I would like to do is see these delivered as quickly as possible so that it satisfies the customers and everybody gets a chance to start testing and experimenting and finding out how well they appreciate and understand the technology. I would point out again that these simple boxes This is a classroom CNC machine. It's what I was talking about in the last couple of years here. If you go out and look around, you can buy classroom tabletop CNC machines for pretty much on the cheap because a lot of schools have gone out of business. Or they've changed technology and they've gone to a newer machine. It doesn't mean that the old machine was run out and burned out. What it means is they've just gone to the newer machine to keep up with the industry. Now in that respect, this machine, I'm not sure, I don't know the particulars on it, might even be from one or two generations back, which is just fine. And that's why they've been able to make the price quite affordable because it's a design that works. It's a design that's simple. And it's a design that's already been in the system for more than a few years. It's so small. Yeah, it's so small. It's perfect. Well, see the other advantage to this, in a classroom you'll have 18 to 20 of these to maybe even 30 of these set up because you'll have 20, 30, 33 students in a classroom. and everybody gets to, you know, again, they may pick a number of different objects to produce or they may have to, as in many classes in the advanced class, you have to do your own programming and you have to write up your own system for operation to build a certain object. because that is part of what you're supposed to learn to do. Now the machines will scan a particular amount of the product and like we said earlier there are laser scanners that virtually ID the object 92%, 98%, sometimes there's and with the new machines it's a 100% finish but in the past they had like a percentage that was fairly high and then final finish steps were performed by either a hand operator using another machine or by another machine that did the final specs and did all of the calibrating to confirm that the part stayed within spec. The newer machines, everything is taken into consideration as part of the programming and software. So it does everything like in this machine. It's supposed to do 100%, which is cool. Right. I bet you what this guy's probably going to end up doing is scanning an AK lower and then selling that and this machine will do that. What I'd like to see is an AK-47 machine receiver. Now here's the thing that I've pointed out before about all these things guys. I'd like to see the receiver heavier not lighter. See somebody could build a machine receiver that would be like a brick dock house from Hades and that rifle would never wear out. If you just do it Yeah, make it a 41-40 chromoly steel, make it a solid billet cut, and thicken up the outer walls. You don't thicken up the internal dimensions. This is how you do things, guys. You would thicken up all of the external surface contact areas. You would bevel, in other words, back set all of your external cuts so that none of your pins would have to be longer, none of your rods or your drive pins would have to be any different in dimension. In fact, with some it wouldn't make any difference because you can buy the pins in any length you want that drive through and hold the gun together. Remember the AK is a permanent fixture lower, there's nothing you take apart. Once she's together, pretty much she stays where she is. But you could do that. A machine daycare would be cool, but still taking all standard parts. The only thing is you'd have UGO receivers, you've got Romanian receivers. The Romanians are pretty much like the Bulgarian and the Russian. But you have different receiver patterns for the spare parts that are out there, but it would allow you to consume and utilize all of these other parts, either American or surplus, that are going to be continuing to be made available. And even if they weren't, we're now at 100% American made parts out there. Remember, we've been talking about this. You can buy a complete American AK kit right now. Everything but the receiver, and it's all American. The guards, the grips, the strikers, the hammer, the seers, the pins, everything, the barrel, the front sight, rear sight, gas system, everything. So, now the cool thing would be to make a superior AK receiver. My idea of superior is I don't care if it weighs another quarter pound. I really don't. I'm to the point where I've learned a long time ago I want stability. We haven't gained anything by this whole of garbage of trying to make a lighter gun because we never keep it light anyway. I'll challenge you, we made a shorter barrel M16 and we threw so much garbage on it, hell it weighs as much as a Garand. The very argument for getting rid of the Garand and the M14 is completely out the window because by the time you're done throwing all the extra junk they put back on the weapon, it weighs 8 to 10 pounds. Well, 9 to 10 pounds and up to 11 pounds. Think about it. Grand Oats, it's small, it's compact, but it's still built like a brick doghouse. In fact, it's comparable in terms of weight, but performance isn't really all that improved. If you look at the weight of a Sumoi or a Finnish Sumi submachine gun, or the Peppish and you weigh them in and then you look at the performance and you think about this, yes it's a pistol cartridge but the M16 in its standard load it gets a little more performance at close range but once you get out to what is the maximum submachine gun range the performance of the M16 and the M4 are the short barrel CAR 15's they rated them as submachine guns for a reason but you know what the big advantage of the Sumi and the Peppish is? I'd have a 73 round drum magazine as opposed to a 30 round magazine with a rifle cartridge that because I went to a shorter barrel I've got barely rifle performance out of. You see? That's the thing nobody's supposed to think about because the Sumis, you know, if you take a look at them, they admit they're a brick doghouse but they stay on target. And again, considering the weight of these other weapons, I had a vertical foregrip up front, I had lasers, I had lights. I add more optics, I add all kinds of gobbledygook coming top to bottom. Don't forget a bipod. Because my five pound weapon is so heavy I'm not sure that I can stabilize it anymore. Of course it's not a five pound weapon anymore. Because I added all the other junk back on. And again, if we go the other way, see if you streamline the gun completely, think about it. I can bring the Air 15 like they already did. They brought it down to five and a half pounds. Now my God, to me that's how I'd be building the weapon. And improving the performance of the shooter by forcing them to actually practice and train as riflemen. You know, instead of using, well the laser sight's cool, the optics are, all the optics are useful, so I won't kick those out. But it's just the idea that if I was looking for a way to put stashed weapons and build up more weapons, A 5.5 pound polymer AR-15 that will do everything, a steel AR-15 or aluminum AR-15 will do. It's a great little thing to have in every aircraft, have a dozen of them, why not? At 5 pounds, magazines I got to carry no matter what, ammunition I got to carry no matter what, that factor is already in. But if I can cut the weight of the weapon down by say 1 third or half, I can carry more of those guns on board which means I might survive the event by having backups to backups. That's how I see it. Anyway, that's just sidebars, a couple of sidebars that are just things that we always have looked at in the math tables. If we were going to war production, right now the AR-15 makes sense in this form especially. I mean we could do AR-15s all over the place. But if we do, remember guys, we can't get lazy about ammunition production for instance. We can't get lazy about magazines. We need more mags. You're building more weapons, you sure as hell better be buying a lot more mags. See how that works? Now granted, I'm going to pull them off corpses, but I've addressed this in the Battle for the Republic books. The idea that the guy looking at the pair of Mickey Mouse boots on the corpse sticking up out of the Bradley, the turret's upside down, the guy throws him in place, and the legs are sitting there. Every once in a while, he keeps looking through the binoculars to try and figure out what size boots they are. As soon as they're given the go-ahead, it's a race to see who can get to those boots before the other guy. You see what I mean? Or like, you know, wow, because we do have spares on corpses, but if everybody's thinking about stripping the same corpse, you're going to be fighting over parts. Yeah. You see? So we need to build up a tactical reserve now. It needs to be deeper. It's obvious we're going into a shooting war. They're going to trial consular wicked nasty stuff. We're going to have to clean the country out. If we're going to win, we better be thinking ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Jump in there, please. I have been thinking about what it would take to be able to produce barrels. That's the thing I brought up this morning. You're on the right track because barrels, the two things that they restrict on the air are 15 every time since 1977. In 1977, the first thing they cut off was barrels and also they went after the bolt carriers. In fact, they went after the bolt carriers first. Then they went after the barrels. That was how they tried to block the AR-15 from going into build mode. Seriously, back in 1977. And of course, flash hiders. Flash hiders. Oh my god, your rifle is a flash hider. Even though it was on every AR-15, it came from Colt. You know what I mean? But barrels, yes. The barrel process, the big thing there. Most of the big forges have been stolen from the US and are now in China or over in Saudi Arabia or in Egypt. Now we can still do a direct, you know, traditional barrel construction, which was not forging and is not a problem. The cool thing about forging is that you can remember there's two steps. You're using a molten metal, semi-molten malleable metal. When you strike it with so many hundred tons of force, You also use a magnet to pull the electrons, you know, pull the metal through. This changes the crystalline structure so that it's more durable, stronger for the purpose. These are some of the little tricks that the Belgians, or not Belgians, forgive me, the Bulgarians were probably using with the new barrels they built back in the 90s, in the late 80s and 90s. The Bulgarians jumped ahead of everybody with a whole series of new barrel processes. They were so advanced that the factory was restricted, nobody could go in and see what they were doing. But we could still do the traditional barrel process. The big thing is it's a matter of what kind of weapon are we dealing with here as far as intricate second steps. If it's a bullback design, the barrel is simpler to build. If it's a gas operating design, then we're always having to deal with the issue of precision in terms of positioning that gas port, the gas map. That's the biggest factor. Otherwise, it's straightforward. We can make any barrel we want. As long as we can get hold of any kind of chromoly steel, we can crank out a barrel. But we need the machinery to do it, and that's mostly a lathe and a puller. it in the ball. I mean, they make it probably the same way over there in the Peshawar region, right? Oh yeah, except they're still doing it like they did in the Civil War. And they're still working. I can't say that they all are because I don't know if you've seen the latest. Somebody did a more recent video of Peshawar arms manufacturing. They gave a little peek to some of the machinery that they've got right now. They were old. I'd say they were either World War II or just after World War II, boring mills and lathes. There are no paint left on them hardly at all, but it's obvious they were, I would say wartime, World War II production machinery, but very well maintained as far as no rust, not a speck of rust anywhere, clean as clean could be, but the old paint was wearing off from use, just falling off eventually. If you keep rubbing on it, you can wear all the paint off if you keep cleaning it. I'm sure there's a little kid over in the corner with an oil rag and a brush, and that's all he does. You know what I mean? That's how it used to be in the world. That's something we should point out when I see it. I talk about PM. You know, steam engines were really cool guys, but the one thing about steam engines is that whenever they stopped, everybody had to do maintenance. And when a steam engine, although it really is true that it still should be true with diesel engines, it's just they've gotten lazy because it's easier to let them go to rot and then throw them out and then buy a new one. Although it takes a long time to do it but traditionally with steam engines, there were men that were oilers, that's all they ever did for their whole lives. That's all they did with them and they were masters of their trade and they kept those machines running. The whole elements of maintenance or preventive maintenance that need to be understood are half the battle in keeping your industry going. It will make it for a while, but eventually you are going to wear technology out that otherwise could probably last a lifetime. I was thinking of investigating what machining it would take to start making barrels like AK barrels for instance. I was thinking like a 20 inch AK barrel would turn that gun that patterns into one that groups. Yes, and going with a heavier, going with more of a bull weight barrel, just a little heavier barrel. Again, the process, as you've seen, you've got one fixture that is your pivot and that's your gas diverter, your gas port block. Remember that comes out the top of the barrel that diverts to the gas tapit system, the gas piston system. Beyond that, everything else is pretty straightforward lathe work. Even that's lathe work because all you have to do is make sure that your basic collet standards are met so that when the fixture is slid into place, if it needs to be tuned by the armor, it can be lapped a little bit. Although typically what they do is they bevel that cut. Remember, once beveled one way, one piece is beveled the other slightly in the machining process. When they come together, they naturally wedge into place. Then the armorer takes a mallet, does one last tap, and that creates the final seal. That's a basic rule with all of the parts where they have to come together when we're doing lathe work. Remember, just to slightly trace, bevel everything so that we have a positive lock and we have positive adhesion. That would be the only consideration. Otherwise, the other thing is, remember, AK threaded barrels have a reverse twist to American Standard. So if you want, we could actually go American Standard for the thread and use any number of American flash hiders on a 5.45x39 because 5.45x39 is smaller than 5.56. An M16 basket flash hider would screw right on the end of a rifle if you built it right. I wonder if it would be possible to build an AK with the red locking system of the HK-91. That's a lot more intricate. Well, it's not a lot more intricate because even the Germans designed it so it could be built crude and rude. But it's not an advantage. The AK system pretty well as it is. would be the way to go. I don't think there's really a need to switch out and create that much more of a hybrid. To be quite honest, where I would go is what we remember. I mentioned this the other day. If you go to JGSales.com, they've got the PAP Hugo rifle, or Hugo pistols in .223 that will take an AR-15 magazine. Now, that would probably be a more important feature than anything else is taking that idea and commuting it over to all of your AKs. If your AKs were going to be American AKs, you could Americanize them completely and one of the biggest advantages. See, what basically we're doing is talking about cabling together a rifle that's already built. That's the DeWU. The DeWU rifle was canceled and blocked from the US because it's superior or let's put it this way, it takes the best features of the AR-15 M16 rifle and the AK47 and it blended them together. You have the gas system of the AK but it has the basic part system and magazine well of the M16. It was a handled one. It was beautiful. Oh, you got one? No, I've handled one. Oh, okay. I was going to say, because now they're collectors items. They're stupid prices. Everybody's demanding top dollar for them. We started using those in OpFor because they looked enough like an AK. that nobody knew the difference because they didn't recognize the rifle and we beat the living snot out of those intentionally. We grabbed and bought a number of them, used the Hollywood Flash Hiders because they used an M16 type basket, you know, Flash Hider, and they went through the rounds. And as far as accuracy goes, comparable to the M16 or the Mini-14, The Daewoo rifle, the gas system, could take all kinds of dirty ammunition and abuse. It was not persnickety, but what's interesting, it takes the M16 bolt. The critical parts that wear, that they can get from the US government for interchangeability, the Koreans designed those into the Daewoo rifle. And the other advantage is they went with the M16 type magazine well and I will say this guys, that magazine well is so stupid user friendly that it's the best feature on the rifle as far as I'm concerned. Because the idea is to switch out without thinking to go from one mag to the next. That bucket magazine system is the solution. The carbine is similar but it still takes just a little more thought to get it into that magazine well the way it's set up. And ladies love them for that reason. I'm telling you, when it's easy, when the girls don't, and I'm not deriding girls in combat, but I'm just saying, my experience. I've watched why people like things, and one of the things is minimal thought process to get something done. Women will kill you dead, dead, dead with a rifle just like any man will. Don't make any mistake about that. I think we all know better, okay? Or a pistol or whatever. But that positive magazine while in the air, 15, put on the AK rifle. It just changes the whole dimension of cycle time. It's not that the AK is bad. I can run an AK all day. I was trading on the M14 and you better get that magazine right. When you're bringing the magazine into battery guys or you will have like, remember, you ever watch Mars Attacks? Remember the movie Mars Attacks? Yeah. Remember when the Martians were out in the desert and they're all landing and all the troops, if you notice, they all had M14s. and the one brother that got killed, he's standing there and he's got his rifle pointed at one of the aliens and as he points the rifle up the magazine drops out of the rifle and he... Well that does happen if you don't slap that mag and you've got to pivot it like on an AK, you've got to pivot it in and then slap back. That's what you do. You don't slap down on the base like you do on an AR. What you do is you tap back. You pivot and tap back while you're moving your hand and then identify that you've got it secured. But it's a meeting action drill for you if you're running an M14. Mini-14s are the same way. All that is is a micro copy, a 223 copy of the M14. Well, the magazine while on the Air 15 is a whole lot more stupid friendly. In other words, it's very user friendly. That's the one big feature that changes the firepower potential of the weapon and negates one of the several areas where operators can make mistakes especially if they are flustered, fatigued or inexperienced. I read where someone called it reducing conscious operations. Yes, that is correct. Thank you. That's exactly how to think about it because again there are bad things about the M16 that it's a piece of junk only because of the way they decided to screw it up in several ways. It's a fantastic machine and Stoner thought it all the way through. You cannot deride Stoner for the design. He knew what he was doing and he knew why he built it and how he built it. It's when the Committee of Monkeys got hold of it that they started cluster screwing the gun. and that's just a fact. I wanted to touch on something, anything else, Fluffy, please jump on that real quick. No, not at this time. Thank you, Mark. Okay, you don't have to go anywhere, but I want to touch on this. I want to plant a seed. Here's an example of propaganda. State police, in their all-knowing, all-seeing eye, say that Eric Fine is living on tuna and ramen. Now, what's wrong with that? What they're trying to tell you is, you know, all he's got is tuna and ramen. Guys, most of America is living on tuna and ramen. And then it'll have to be in the middle of the woods. He's eating as well as half of America today. You know what I mean? Peanut butter. Yeah, and most people can barely afford the peanut butter. He's got two, huh? The interesting thing is, surviving parent primarily on cams of tuna fish and ramen noodles suspected police shooter Eric Freid is believed to remain in a swath of rugged woodland near his parents Monroe County home, state police said Friday. Guys, what day is, what's the date today? Think about it. Look at the date. It's the third, isn't it? Now, they're finally saying, well, they know all. Look at, we know things. What they're doing is they're trying to show you, we know things about him. Now, I think they knew probably ten days ago he was living on tuna and ramen noodles, don't you think? Yeah, so so why did they wait till now? Well, it's one of those things where they can put it out there and go see we know all about him We know everything about him. Well, it's work. It's we're indestructible It's enough. Well, wait, it's been three weeks. You still haven't got him really bad Yeah, but we know what he's been eating He's eating tuna and ramen noodles. We think you know, I have bags of garbage that you know were used by somebody else I'd be spreading them all over creation out there. You know what I mean? And even with somebody else, seriously guys, I would be a bugger on that. I would flood them with so much garbage. But here's the other thing I want to bring up. Guys, rule number one. Any food you use is going to create an odor. And while tuna is a great protein thing, you got to remember fish creates a very unique odor. If you're in a survival situation, you want bland. And I know, you know, again, tuna's bland anyway if you don't do anything with it, but it's good food. Okay, don't tell me about the radiation. I know about that. So you're reading a little. So he's glowing in the dark. That's okay. It'll make it easier for him to see with his natural night vision, okay? He's not even there. I mean, the dogs can't find him. He's not even there, Mark. Well, that's my point is, what I was bringing up here is, The basic rule is, first of all, I just want to cover what they are talking about here. Rule number one, plan. Think that way when you are thinking field operations and you are moving around and about. Number two, if you are handling anything, guys, I have told you this before, I was taught this, this is religion in special operations. Number one, everything gets put underground, period. Always remember that. Everything gets put underground. That's why you're carrying your E-Tool. That's why your E-Tool is on your combat rig most of the time, not on your backpack. Not with your home load. Why? It's the tool that digs the cat hole that you pee in. If you pee, you don't walk up to a tree and piss on the tree unless you're trying to mark territory all over the place. Otherwise, you take your e-tool, you bend it, or you'll open it up 90 degrees, whack it in the ground, open up the hole, pee into the slot you made, take the shovel out, shove it back in, congratulations, you're done. And it looks like nobody was ever there. If you have packages, wrappers, cans or whatever, number one example, you're in the field, you're limited in calories, you take your canteen. If you've got a can of something, you open it if you're living out of cans. Or MRE pouches. You put the water in there, slosh it around, drink it. Every stinking calorie you can get out of whatever you've carried and spent calories to carry you consume. There's another reason for this. You also wash out whatever you can in the way of material that will draw scent. Then you roll up everything as tight as you can. If you want to, take a match out, a little trick here. Pull out your MRE match pack, light a match, and we'll just leave it lit and move it around inside the can a little bit just to cook it. Okay, just a little bit, doesn't have to be much. Take your wrappers, put them inside the can, take the can, crimp it shut with your boot real quick, take your shovel, gap the earth again, open it up, take that can, the sharp point you stepped on, because you know the open end of the can, you've made like a V, like a wedge, like a hatchet head. Shove that down into the ground. If you're smart, you've got some CS powder in a foot powder container, or if you've got a sprayer with some CA, some capsium oil. spray that on it and then put the dirt back down over it and if you want to put a little CS powder on the top of that or put some you know capsium oil on the top of that. That way when the dog goes, well guess what he found? Now by the way you do that in general just to keep other, the real reason for it is if they're not on your track what you're really doing that for is because of raccoons, possums and other creatures that like the taste of what you eat. by putting a little bit of something that will nib the nose they will stay away from it and they won't dig it up and create spores somebody else can track. Okay? Now it takes longer for me to describe this to you than it does for you to actually perform it. But by doing this you offer nothing above ground. You got to take it and you got to defecate. I'm going to tell you a little trick there, those MRE bags if you're not going to keep them. Well learn to aim. You all get my drift on that one? Learn to aim. Why? Because then that gets rolled up, folded up, you dig the cat hole, you put that under the ground, it's less likely for something to smell it. If you're eating tuna and ramen, that's hard to do. Yeah, I know. Well, that is another trick. Now, it sounds weird, but that is the other reason for eating that. You minimize the amount of times that you're going to defecate and you slow down your G-track. That is true. Cheese and crackers are there for the same reason. The idea is to think about it. You're being chased and the other thing as your body is bereft of calorie intake. What happens is your digestive system will start to slow down and consume everything efficiently that you have been eating. Right now you are blessed with a serpiet of calories. Because of this, your system pushes a lot of the product through and does not hold it to digest it. If you were to go into field survival or field use mode, your internal system, your clock, changes. And the reason it will do that is because it realizes it's not getting the calories, the freebie calories and the sugars and all the other junk stuff you've been eating. And what will happen is the body will change its cyclic process and especially the lower G-track will start to destroy and consume every element that it can to the point where you're going to find you're going to be literally poop and less kids and what you are will be smaller. That's the basic rule. In the field especially, day 21, day 25 out, your metabolism is very different from when you hit the ground to begin with. And that's a good thing. Now, remember that your meals are also engineered for this. You might read all the information on those old C rations and on those MREs. Remember that they were designed and they were fortified. But they're also designed with particular construction with regard to their roughage. and how they're built. In fact, that's why these meals all seem to be the same. It's not that they tasted the same. It's that their consistency, how they were constructed, is pretty much the same so that it engineers your body's response. Oh yeah, well you've got to remember guys, you're moving an army in the field. There's two things you've got a problem with. This is something that they had a real difficulty with in Korea is you're limited in real estate and guys, you better get everybody to defecate in the same place and you better learn how to use latrines because if you've got 120 men in the company pissing and booping wherever they want to, it doesn't take long for you to find that position from a distance by smell. Number one, number two, the problem is, and again, this is why also you've got to remember your meals are engineered. Take a look at what they put in the meals and why they put them in the meals. Remember, government is not going to spend any money on us that they can help. If they can't spend it, they won't. If they can figure out a way not to get something to us, they wouldn't. So, whatever you see in a ration pack, every element is there for a reason. And this is something we've talked about, like even with the condiment packs. I know it's hard to do but you're going to find out real quick that you're not going to not eat things. You're going to consume everything. You'll learn that even the creamer, you better figure out where to put it if you don't drink the coffee and maybe you don't like coffee at all. So you're going to give the coffee pack to me because I'm going to carry it until somebody desperately needs some caffeine to keep themselves awake and then you're going to get the coffee pack back with a little bit of water in it because I'm going to keep you awake for another 10 hours. That's why they put the coffee in there. It's not that you, it's again a legitimate legal drug. That's how you need to think at it. It's fuel in some way. The coffee creamer, purely a flavory thingy since we're going to force the coffee on you or offer the coffee. Most people like creamer but here's the thing, I learned to use the creamer and sugar not because I necessarily like creamer and sugar in my coffee but because I made sure I used every stinking part of the ration. Okay? Now there's salt in there. Salt is going to do two things obviously it's going to pull moisture from the body in the long run But you use a certain amount of salt you're out there doing what this guy's doing. He's being chased constantly now He's probably smart enough and knows the terrain where he's walking down at certain times and letting them pass And they're walking by and maybe a dozen times if he's still there, okay? But the fact of the matter is you're in the field. Your body is generating heat because it's cooler or again you're shedding heat because you're overheating and creating calories in a warm environment. However you look at this, you go through minerals. For this reason you've got to remember to start taking those salt packs and distributing them over your food so that you don't end up with that lump of salt in water because you've got to have the salt anyway so you pour it in the salt water and you drank it. Well, how about you use it the way it was intended and distribute it over your food? If you distribute it over your food, it's more palatable. And the other nice thing is that it's going to incorporate to help break down the food along with your saliva. It's going to be more uniformly absorbed by the body rather than being a shock to the body in some way. Most people who drink salt water have a tendency to want to gack it back up, don't they? On the other hand, if you take the salt pack and you distribute it over that food like the main course and the other food that's available, some people even like to put salt on their desserts, like on their fruits. So for some people, it's not going to be a strange thing to salt the peaches or salt the peppers or whatever. I know people that do that. In fact, over the lifetime, it's a lot of older people and a lot of middle-aged people, so it's a wide spectrum of experience. Well, in this case, the idea is that that salt packet is there for a reason. Nothing that you carry out is wasted. Nothing you carry into the field is wasted. All of it serves a purpose. The engineers that created those rations for you in the first place, they wouldn't give it to you if they didn't felt it served a purpose and was useful. Yes. Now, go ahead. No, I was saying yes. Yeah. The other part about this too, is remember, just as you know, as just mentioned, man, if he's eating tuna and ramen noodles, he's plugged up for good. Well, the other part about this is having something. You better have something in the ration pack to unplug things, okay? Otherwise, you get a little barrel rolly real quick. Oh, a little foal here. Oh my God, when it comes out, it's gonna be terrible. They would have had a heat signature on this guy by now, Mark. Three weeks, come on. Well, I think that the problem is look outside. If he is in the area, he cannot stay in the area where he is for an indefinite period of time because eventually he's going to lose overhead cover. I don't know what the pine tree content is in the area. If it's heavier pine, I've been watching the tree cover and the pictures they're showing in its typical temperate where you've got large oak and large maple forest. And a lot of it is not. It's old growth by today's standards, so it's pretty big. The vehicles, the armors are useless, the overhead, that's why they've been bringing the choppers down low. They're trying to scare you by getting the choppers down there and moving the brush around and making you think you need to, well no, if you just stay calm, if they're still digging and desperately digging and they can't come up with a target, they're getting frustrated. So they'll start doing stupid things. I won't be surprised if they get fatigued or they get pissed off, they lose a chopper. I've watched that. I helped to find people years ago out at Fort McCoy. They had a chopper. In fact, what happened is they stayed out too long. We had a tornado come through the area. It was an OH-58. It either got hit by lightning or it just got slapped by the wind. The whole formation was more than 19 helicopters. The Kiowa went down, but she went down in tree growth, pine trees. And guys that slipped down sideways through the pine trees and the pine trees just went right back to where they were. And that chopper was unidentifiable. We knew approximately where it was and every mother's uncle went out there to find them. Well, most of the crew, three of the crew were dead, the fourth guy in the fourth seat on the left side. He was sitting in the chopper and he swore to God later that he had been shouting for help. He wasn't. He was mewling. His arms were broken. Forgive me, his legs were broken. His arm was broken. He had cracked vertebrae, broken rib. But he had one arm that he stuck out through the broken plexiglass and how they found him is he was tapping on the side of the door of the chopper and it sounded like a little tin drum. It took him three days to find him even though they knew approximately where he went down. Fort McCoy, Wisconsin is known territory. Think about that. What they should do is just take everybody off the search and let the guy stick his pinky in the water and he'll get caught. You're fearful of that because if they open things up he's not going to come out and start dancing around. I wouldn't. He's smart enough to tell you right now that the thing he's waiting for if he's really good if he has naughty left If they get a real nice, Pennsylvania wet weather fall storm. He's gone There'd be nothing they could do to spot him. There won't be anything they can keep in the air They're gonna get winds off Lake Ontario. They're gonna get that weather front that always comes out of the north They come law across Lake Erie and go east or it will come straight down off Lake Ontario and whichever one, it's going to be a bugger. And if it comes in and you get like a rain squall that's going to last for a day or two, there's two things that's going to do. It's going to completely destroy any tracking options. Of course, any sport they run into after that would be fresh. They would know that they're on something closer because any sport they could find after a one or two or three day fall rain, That's going to be something to be curious about. That's where you have to be cautious. If you stay in the area, you have to already be crossing and creating new spore for confusion. You have to create interlocking pathways and dumping junk. Peering on trees, six or seven feet up, we're saving the pee and throwing it up in the trees. Make the dogs feel they got something they need to bark at for a bit, especially when they can sense it way up there somewhere. Go ahead. Now I'm going to point something out. If he has immersed himself, and I understand that he actually talked to the guys, you've got to remember we bombed Serbia illegitimately. We bombed Kosovo illegitimately for how long? During that time, they bragged that we must have destroyed 90% of their tanks and that we destroyed almost all of their infantry. When the ceasefire came up and everybody backed off, 90-92% of their armor was intact. We had not bombed Jack's squad. Their infantry had been chucking and jiving and dodging all of our armor and all of our air attacks. All the while we were pulling that BS illegitimately. And guess what? They all came out smiling. This picture is where you see our crews, our tank crews that were not supposed to be there in the first place. They have all got this bland shocked look on their face like, Here comes a column of Russian, or forgive me, of Yugoslavian T-72s, and they're all complete and intact. They were told we killed them all. We bombed them into the Stone Age. We killed them all. The Yugos were really good at deception and run, dodge, and jump. Not only that, but they took their older equipment and even shot down an F-117 that wasn't supposed to be shoot-downable. I'm going to be quite honest, did you think that he's just been standing around for however long he's lived in the area? I've told you before guys, I go out 20 miles one direction, every once in a while I take stuff, I bury water caches all through the area. I've got stuff that's been buried for 30 years. I would. Why wouldn't he? I mean I do. I have. I've done stuff I can take you to a ... There's places around the state of Michigan where I can walk in and I can outfit 10 people, not one. Everybody top to bottom. Web gear, boots, underpants, socks, T-shirts, 10 rifles, ammunition, 30-calibramo cans per rifle. Everything is there. You would never know. I've been thinking ahead for a long time which I've argued you all should be doing the same thing. Why not? Pick a place, even a randomly driver, pick a place, have some fun. A place you know is isolated. You've got a friendly piece of real estate. You do it in such a way that no matter where you are in the country, Within a reasonable period of time you could cross country hoof it to that location. You just take a five gallon pail, two five gallon pails, fill it with everything you need, put it in a car, a chamber, bury it underground. By the way, we got to go though guys. We got militia town hall coming up next and we're at the top of the yard. I got Nancy made fried chicken and I ain't going to pass that up. We got to go. Anyway. Hopefully you give everybody some ideas, but I just wanted to bring up this thing because he's eating tuna and ramen noodle! Hell, most of America's eating tuna and ramen noodle if they work for a living, you fool. That's what gets me about that. They make it sound like, well, boy, he's really rough and we really got him by the way. We know everything about him. Well, you know everything about him, but he's been out there for three weeks. You know what I mean? So pick a direction. As far as I'm concerned, any time you see this BS, it's just the same rehash over and over again to try and get it, you know, to keep it in the news. And they always have to make it sound like they're just so all knowing and they know everything. Well then this should have been all done in the first 24 hours. Instead, like you said, boy, this is taking a long time. Yeah, it's the real world, guys. Anyway, okay, there's a whole bunch more to the story. Take a look and check it out. We should be hearing the music. Ed's going to be taking over here in just a little bit. I can play some other music myself.