October 1, 2014
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1h 1m
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2014
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Mark Koernke discussed weapons systems and preparedness on Weapons Wednesday, October 1, 2014. He reviewed American-made AK-47 rifles, AK-74s, and various surplus firearms available through online retailers like JG Sales and E-Sarco Inc. Koernke covered ammunition availability, magazine compatibility between AR-15 and AK platforms, and specific pistol models including Star Supermodel B handguns and Ruger P85 parts. He also discussed experimental ammunition designs including the Dardic triangular round and caseless ammunition systems, while emphasizing the importance of stockpiling ammunition and spare parts for long-term preparedness.
- ak-47
- ak-74
- weapons wednesday
- ammunition
- preparedness
- ar-15 magazines
- jg sales
- e-sarco inc
- star pistols
- ruger p85
- 7.62x39
- 5.45x39
- surplus firearms
- dardic round
- michigan militia
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Live 365. Bringing me the sound of the revolution. Thank you for listening to Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from Tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But Tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. And pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iookeed vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each god-given rite, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, is to still the land of the free? Ladies and gentlemen, this is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, south, north, and east. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com Indiana Freedom Talk Radio.com. We're on AM&FM microstations, CB base stations, and the Ultra Net Technologies. East and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. The Hallmark Network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 3rd, 5th, the Pitt and our friends in the recall state of Colorado. Waving the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson, we turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, and land in the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium are retired telecommunications workers. Bring us the Golden Spike. Well, I'll tell you what, it has been a perfect day here in Michigan. The cloud cover has been mixed. The temperature has been medium and you couldn't ask for a better day to work outside. So for everybody out there, again, let's see if we have Don with us. just to be safe. And one and a two and the bubble machine continues to go and? Alright, well, today's date, as you probably imagined, well, the clock turned over man. Dudes, it's Wednesday, it is the first of October. It is the sixth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation. of America with a K 2014 Old Earth Calendar or my in the crazy town crazy town calendar and if you haven't noticed yet it is of course well it's middle week but it's been a very very good week for operations with regard to with regard to Overall radio communications and signal operations, we got a couple more micros. I want to say hi to one of our guys just linked in from one another direction. Yes, we did put together another micro FM that's been a little offline for a bit because unfortunately the owner, this is one of those FM100s that put together years ago, well it's been running for a long time, but unfortunately the owner had to go out to work in the oil fields out there in the Dakotas. I got back here this last weekend. Everybody did all their running around. We resurrected the system. Of course, it wasn't wrong with anything wrong with it, but we did do a check on it and make sure everything was, you know, nothing oxidized, nothing looking strange. And the system was transferred over to another location. And right now, 98.5 FM here in Michigan is doing its part. So again, thank you very much. We appreciate that. And just keep the you know again power up and Now that it's in a place where it can be kept an eye on the property owners heading back out west of course you had other things you need to take care of but Winterizing because we got the weather coming now guys. Oh my goodness. Yeah So now we need to be prepared for all the other fun stuff that's going to be coming up. We're headed towards fall. October means it's kind of really official now guys. September you can always go, eh, maybe to a degree. But it's inevitable that this month rolls around and when it does, yeah, it's time. So for our friends out there listening, again, weapons Wednesday, we'll see you. Somebody sent me this, a half naked girl can get 100 likes on Facebook. No, a half naked girl can probably get a million likes on Facebook. How many can our female soldiers get? Well, first of all, they shouldn't be out there with a rifle. They shouldn't be out there at all. I wouldn't give them any likes, period. I'm sorry. Wait a minute. No, I'm not. This is all part of the communization of America. I have no use for it. This is part of our problem. We let things go too far. We were all told we weren't going to put them by women up there in the combat zone because we had American ideals. All the while the communists were loading up our government and more and more of the lesbo slash the feminization of America was pushed. And guess what? So you know what, no, I'll give it, if I could give it a thumbs down I would. Be quite honest, I'm tired of that garbage. It's like, well, you know what, what you got is basically you're bragging up to your old bunch of stinking communists. I'm not impressed. That was one of the agendas of communism. Yeah, you know, that'd be no differential. Now, does it mean that the ladies are not supposed to be prepared to defend themselves? Hell yes. But in the West we got lots of you know shall we say swinging man, man? You know ma'am, you know memory components here. There aren't the upper part, but either the male part You know the yeah, we don't have the dangly up above memory We got the mainly parts down below and that's simplifying the plumbing for a reason So that we can kind of stay focused on certain tasks So that's what the guys are about you see and the whole thing about throwing the women out there I think the again once again the Jewish Mafia the shysters are just laughing their ass off Yeah, you're all the end of course eventually well, we've all seen it It's now come forward get rid of Christianity get rid of the Christian as so again Progressively, it's get the goyim animals whipped out there Throw them out front and turn them into cannon fodder Not bad enough that we got our people's cannon fodder at their mail I don't have a use for that either pretty well finished with the being played routine You serious fight? Something for a reason? That's one thing. Going out so the Israelis can steal our treasures, gold and rape women and kids? No. I have no use for the pigs at all anymore. As far as those sheisters go, they're trying to manipulate us and go to hell. But we've got a whole lot of arm and up to do because of that, but they plan on coming and seeking revenge because we aren't following the masters. You are right, we are not. At ISIS, run by the Israelis, financed by the Israelis, with us of course paying it in reality. They are just dealing out the checks, if they are the ones who give the orders. Well, I tell you what, let's not say we did, but Israeli-Israeli we all know what it is about. It means we are going to fight it though, along with the rest of the international shysters that are out there. So, weapon systems. Something that I mentioned here today and I noticed they have been gobbled up around the country. It took about 40 minutes worth of just quick searching to see who had the best price for these American AKs that came out a couple months ago. I remember these things don't have any limitations because they are 100% American parts. Now, it doesn't mean you can't put any other part on it. It sure as hell you can. But what's interesting is somebody went around, found all the different components that could be purchased off the shelf that were American made. And then, I'm sure, made the difference, which wouldn't be that many. I mean, barrels were already being made. All the rest of the minor components were already being made in country, if not by major machine shops, by several minor shops that have been doing this for at least 15 years that I know of. So, apparently somebody finally tagged everything, pulled it all together and built a whole bunch of American-made AKs. Now, the first batch don't have chrome bore, but if you spend a little more money, you're going to get a hard chrome bore for about $80 to $100 more expected. But what's interesting about it is that when you look at the whole program, Even without the chrome more pretty nice. We've got the ability to completely crank up the ak-47 system from top to bottom and put it online or at least Create all of the parts necessary to keep all the rest of our aks going that would probably be a good thing wouldn't it so again while Centerfire systems has sold out now I know that because I actually give a spot called there don't see anything on the horizon apparently was a big demand for these things and Certain companies have absorbed the inventory and after the first push, apparently, what we got is what we got. I don't know if production lines shut down. I really can't give any clarification there. So I'm going to go to the source tomorrow and actually call the company that's making them or is supposed to have made them. Maybe it's a front company for CIA, you know, Century International Arms. Okay, Century Arms International CIA. But if it is, then we'll find out more about that. The old CIA has done a whole bunch of weapons like this in the past where they put together kits. But this is kind of a first in that it's an all-American-made AK. And again, this is Weapons Wednesday, so I wanted to emphasize accessing that particular weapon. We're going to see if we can find it at www.classicarms.com. Again, that's classicfirearms.com. Now, one of the reasons, and good to go over guys in the chatroom by the way, to get a chance to say hi there, what we're looking for, I'm already on your list, there we go, long guns, and we're looking for AKs. We're actually looking for the American made AKs. Oh, we've got pink AKs. Those are in stock. And the Barrett 82 Semi Auto A1A2s are in stock. Only $8,299.99. Hey, if you're looking for the price of a new car, well, a used car. That's still a used car. Or if the price of a small car, you can get a Barrett. And to be quite honest, the car of the Barrett, I go to Barrett right now. And I go out and buy a used car for the price of a handful of magazines for the Barrett. Well, they are down to 10 from 20. They do have the single stack PAP, AKs, and 7.62x39. Beautiful rifle, buddy guys bought them. I'm sure you're happy with them. They're 10 round inline mags But they only get 10 with them now so when you bought them earlier, and you bought 20 mags got a better deal didn't you? Yep, that's how it's working, so now it's only 10 mags per rifle, but you're getting 10 complete. Okay, no 10 round mags and the rifle for What? $450 and this is a you go AK which means you're getting you know a good end AK now. I don't see The mall another Barrett the M99 they've got it stock also $4,299.99 I can leave that penny out make you feel good. I'll throw the penny in it's 4,300. Oh man, okay. Well anyway Now as far as oh as far as I can see guys. I there's not one Who would have thought that Glenfield type 22 rifles would run about $200 apiece? My God. I mean it's like, really? Hey, it looks like you get 12 mags with the wood stocks this stuff, and I don't know why. But that's cool. Anyway, I don't see Classic offering, well, we've got the Centurion 39 milled receiver, but they're running about $650. I had to do this last minute because, unfortunately, we went out looking for them earlier. I didn't see anything jumping out at me, but it looks like they do have a good chunk of these in stock. Well, I don't see the American AKs available through classic firearms either. I was kind of hoping so that was another direction. However, they do have Chinese SKS type 56s. These are Vietnamese or Cambodian or Thai SKS. They were Chinese made. They were a Vietnam war issue. And probably these are the guns that were shooting at you if you were a Vietnam veteran. Yeah, I know. Anyway, they've got SKS for $259.99 to as high as $279.99. Pretty didn't count for anything with me as long as that bore is intact. It's a chrome bore on the SCAS so it's pretty hard to beat them out. Otherwise they're not pretty on the outside but they roll just fine on the inside. For $250 there is a solution for a 7.62x39 gun. I'm going to tell you something, I wouldn't change anything on the rifle at all. I wouldn't add a bigger mag. I'd leave it the way it is if you're putting up a 510 program. Why? Because that way the troops don't lose the mag, don't have to try and jam the mag back in. It's 10 rounds from the top and they focus on hitting things. That makes the FKSA a desirable utility issue rifle. Back when they were $69 and $59 apiece, better still today. $259.99 will get you an SKS. 7.62x39 ammunition is still available in ball. I wouldn't focus on anything else but ball ammo right now. Buy ball ammo, buy ball ammo. Yes, I know I harp on that. Buy ball ammo. Otherwise, in a standard AK, it looks like the Yugos are the next step in terms, or the Romanians, what fewer out there, for the better price of the bunch. I know guys have asked me, I got a little letter here yesterday, or actually Nancy's got in the car, whether I've got to get it back to the house here, but asking, well Mark, why aren't you talking about the AK-74s? Well, I would point out that guys, when we were really barking on the AK-74, number one, the AK-74 round, the 545x39, was the cheapest, and still was one of the cheapest, centerfire rifle cartridges available, especially in a military standard. The 53 grain being the cheapest, even if they cut it off, it doesn't mean the efforts are still enough of an in-country now to keep those rifles in service. Whole companies were sold out of millions, almost billions, but millions and millions and millions and millions of rounds. plus the 60 grain and other weight bullet in ball have come in in the 545 by 39. So we can pretty well keep it fed, but it's not as cheap as it was. Remember the AK-74s were anywhere from $70 to $150 cheaper than a regular AK at a given time. Now the balance is kind of shuffled up and down because you can still buy more expensive AK-47s, but the 74s have stayed up in the 600 range. That's where you're going to stay. There might be some for just a little under. If you look around, for instance, JG Sales has had a couple of nice sales going on out west in Prescott, Arizona. That's www.jg sales.com. But otherwise, again, the 74 is still reasonably priced. It's mid-range now in terms of the price of the weapon. It's low end as far as the ammunition goes, provided you shop around a little bit. Don't just go to the first place and grab whatever you see. You do that later when they really start running out again, and we have a problem finding what we're looking for. And that's going to happen. OK, that's not an if. It's just when the next wave comes. And when the next wave hits, It's going to be a lot harder and faster than the last one. That has become very apparent in light of the fact that a lot of people are waking up to what's going on. Because of that, they're kind of, shall we say, antsy. Right now they're still trying to make bills, but the general attitude is where can I find fill in the blank and then how much do I need? It's like, well, I keep telling everybody as much as you can buy. Whatever you can put into your account and fade into your budget in terms of nibbling a little bit more in one area to put more ammunition on the shelf, you need to be doing it. It's just that simple. It's obvious that pretty well everything is going to hell and hand cartons finished. How long are they going to decide to prop it up until whatever anniversary date or occult nonsense is tied in? That's all we're waiting for now. Obviously, the Ebola scam is being run on the country big time. Whoever started that, whoever is participating in that needs to be walked down shot. That will be a combination of the Israeli government and the US government and the Israeli dual citizenship Israelis inside our system failing, intentionally failing, and in fact putting us all at risk. As long as we understand that, you're doing just fine. Anybody with dual citizenship has no loyalty to you. Those prostitutes will run for the border and head for that of the country without, with no extradition possible when the time comes and their betrayal has been discovered. That's the plan. That's why they have dual citizenship, so that they can betray us and then, well, run with, you know, whoa, whoa, whoa, take the money and run. Remember the song, whoa, whoa, take the money and run. That's what their plan is. So, in your situation, one of the things that I'm going to go to is the 74's. I've had enough questions I had to bring it up today. So let's see what we can find. 545x39. And I'm trying to find, let's see, rifles. There we go. AK pattern because they had a number of Bulgarians at JG sales in the 74. So let's see what they're doing right now on those. They're supposed to be a bit of a quote unquote sale. I don't know what that means nowadays, but let's see what happens here. So we're almost to the bottom of the hour and if Ed could, we do need a bottom of the hour break. So just for everybody heads up there. If Ed can do that, we're at 25 minutes after right now. AK-74 is the Century Arms International, C-I-A, C-A-I. They've got the wood and synthetic stock. These are kit guns, $570 a piece, so under $600. Not much, but $8,000, $30,000. We're going to go to break. It is Weapons Wednesday. We'll be right back. Range fire. What rifle is that? There's danger, and there's danger in our hills Oh, here you're not the thing in all the beauty while the rifle In our hands, good rifle You may ride a good late speed You may know it's a turn of master You forward march with speed But you'll learn the back's much faster When you meet our mountain boys And the leader, John, is taught Glad you make what little noise And always hit the mark, oh, the rifle In our hands, good crew knows rifle It is Weapons Wednesday for Re... What is that rifle people? Actually that should be obvious. That's an AK-47. How do we know? Well, because it is an AK-47 that we recorded. Anyway, for everybody out there it is Weapons Wednesday, JGSales.com. Now they do have something interesting I want you to look at. Now this is why I could see these being blocked. and all our marks talking about the block of gun it must be evil or bad well this no it's it's evil only and that it's got the best of all worlds promise it's in a pistol but if they can make this in a pistol wire they making this in a full-calib full-size rifle of the you go zestaba p a p m eighty five n p a k style pistol crink off pattern five five six that's two to three guys Woodstocks accepts AR-15 mags new for $479.95. What did you think? Yeah, it takes AR-15 mags. Why? It has a complete AR-15 lower magazine, well not complete, but an AR-15 type, lower magazine well that feeds right up into the base of that AK receiver, and it takes AR-15 mags. Hey, wait a minute. This makes this a pretty neat package, doesn't it? Now, problem, it's a short barrel. See, the barrel length is 10.25 inches. That's 10.25 inches, right? 21.5 inches overall length from the back of the receiver to the barrel tip of the crank off tight flash rider. This is an interesting package only in that if they're offering this in this configuration Why is it the you goes are not offering this rifle? You know this this weapon idea this concept in a full-size 223 you go weapon I don't really have it I'm not excited about that pistol except at least it does have a little longer barrel doesn't have a real hack hack down barrel I don't see any other variations on that weapon. I have said before, I have no great love for the .223 round because Uncle Samuel has it and a lot of other governments. It behooves you to have a .223 rifle in the inventory. In this case, there are two things that make picking up this weapon worthwhile, but not. for what you might think. Well Mark, you mean you say you actually buy that gun and carry it? Well, I put that gun in vehicle operators hands, but I put a buttstock on it once the war started. You know what I mean? In other words, it's kind of goofy the way it is. It's just too much blast and flash. You got to be close. You're not going to get that much accuracy out of it. But if you take that weapon and you put a rigid thick stock on the rear end of that receiver, all that makes that a really nice sub gun slash, you know, light rifle. I don't like the 10.5 inch or the 10.25 inch barrels, but hey, it's already on there. Now the reason I would want it, the reason one of you might want it, if you have a machine shop, is that magazine well. Oh, now let me remind everybody about the AK pattern of rifle is if you use, in fact, if you have an AR-15 upper that takes 7.62x39 or 5.45x39, You can use regular AR-15 mags to keep that thing fed. There are two things to remember. Number one, the bigger the mag the more difficult you'll have with feed because remember the cant and the angle on that progressive step on the 30 rounders. is a little more blocky than we find on the AK mag which is a perpetual gliding arc. Number one. Number two is the AK round is thicker and chubbier so you're not going to get as many rounds into it but I wouldn't care. Several of our friends brought the Colt Commando 762x39 in a short M4 type configuration when we used to call it the CAR-15. and they bought it in 760x39. And of course, the first thing you're saying is, well, we can't find the regular mags for it. It's like, well, why not use 20 rounders? What? Well, at the time, 20 rounder AR-15 mags, even colts, were only about $2 apiece, guys. And the advantage is obvious. OK, think about it. No, I can only carry maybe 13 rounds in a 20 round AR mag for when I'm using AK rounds. But if I can slap that mag in and pop that bolt forward and bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, and drop the mag, it behooves me to use those 20 rounders to the best of my ability because they were cheap and free just about. OK? Very affordable. Now, today, of course, you can buy AK specific or 760 by 39 specific mags for the AR-15. They're readily available. 545 the same way, which basically those are both the same mag. The reason they've done this, there are a lot of 762x39 and 545x39 air 15 uppers in service now. But this idea, this Hugo Zestava, find the thing. It's the PAPM85NP. That's November Papa. The Michael 8.5 November Papa AK style pistol, Krinckoff pattern 5.56.223 Woodstock accepts AR-15 mags. They're asking retail from JG Sales $479.95. Well, it would kind of behoove us to have a pattern rifle, wouldn't it? See if I'm going to make them, I really like guess when the U-Go's have already figured out how to do it, haven't they? Now it's not the first time this has been done. Remember TexasAKDesigns.com, which has been absorbed by another company, produces a magazine well attachment that goes right in the magazine well and allows you to use AR-15 mags in your AKs right now. Specifically, the 223 is where it's needed because the 223 AK mags have been stupid pricey. This eliminates that because as we know there's lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of AK rifles that are regular AKs. There's lots and lots and lots and lots of AR-15 mags. If we could come up with a jumper that could be dropped into any of these weapons. Now it looks like with this Yugo rifle they came up with a little more elaborate idea than the magazine well seems to be a little more extensive. Well that's fantastic and if they tried to virtually mimic an AR-15 front lower receiver group as far as how they've attached it better still. Now it appears that the release is the same. I don't know if it's ham and dexterous. In fact I haven't looked that closely at the images. But if you're a machine shop out there, it would behoove you. This is one of the few times where, again, with these unique short... It's a pistol, so you're going to have to be rated as a pistol as far as your paperwork goes. Some states that means nothing. In other states it's too much heartburn. If it's really goofy for you to get a handgun, all the hell with that. Don't even bother. Try to find a friend in one of the other states that can pick up pistols for a better price, you know, and no paperwork or minimal. and use the thing there. Buy it over in the state if it's right next door and organize with your people and then take this weapon apart and figure out how it goes together. The reason I say that is obvious. We're looking at a solution here that not only would suit the 223 AKs, but could also greatly enhance the ability of all of your 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 AKs. and built as another add-on type. If it can be done as aluminum casting or polymer, it looks like it might even be Zytel. I don't know. It could be one of the other plastics, like the Glock plastic. It's highly probable, I mean, because that's the kind of stuff that everybody's been doing out there, so you can't poo-poo it, because everybody's doing it, including Glock, which makes plastic guns. Well, not completely plastic, but A whole chunk of it is plastic, isn't it? So a magazine will be able to handle a problem without any difficulties. The big thing there is again, spare parts, spare parts. Whatever little working parts are on it, I get extra spares for that magazine wall right away. And if we're building it in country and start cranking out a copy, then same issue. Spare parts need to be a standard to come with the existing mechanism in its completion. In other words, the where parts that can go bad, As part of the marketing potential for this particular system, you want to offer the spare parts for the weapon. See how that works? Do we have a caller? Call her, jump in there please. Mr. Da Ching, we might have a patient listener, not a problem, don't have to jump in there. Now that's JGSales.com, JGSales.com, then go to the rifles, go to the AK patterns, and you'll find those, that little Krenkoff 223 that uses an AR-15 mag and has an AR-15 type add-on well. And their factory gun came from overseas this way guys find out more about them. It says the Stavar rifle Those are well-built you goes to make an a case for as long as a case of existed. They just made their versions of it now Another thing that JG sales has had on the shelf Talking about handguns and again guys asking or trying to find something for less than $400 for a pistol. That's serviceable right now The star pistols are out there in force and are showing up in many different locations. Now some of them are just asking goofy prices for. And when I say goofy, I'm talking $5, $6, and $700 for weapons that traditionally have sold for in the couple hundred dollar range, if not less. They are surplus military handguns, but now of course with fewer and fewer surplus military handguns available, the ones that are out there that are steel and all metal are going for more because, well, there aren't any more. At least now for the time being and most of them are going into combat zones. They're not sticking around out here in our neck of the woods. They're not coming to this side of the planet because they don't need to. However, right now, and it looks like they do have them in stock still, JG Sales has a Star Supermodel B and they are running $250 a piece. Now they're not in 38, they're not in 38 Super or 38 Auto, they're in 9mm Parabellum. They are a 1911 type frame. They do not have the back strap safety. They're more like the Model 27 in that respect. Overall, somebody will look at it and the average person will go, oh, 45. Except these are in 9mm. They come with two mags. They're $250 a piece. I believe that even JG Sales may have the aftermarket mags in stock. I don't know for sure. CDNN Investments has carried Star Mags for a long time. CDNN Investments, they also carry a lot of other aftermarket mags. In addition to that, E-Sarco Inc.com and Gun Parts Corp. carry star magazines. How many they have and what their cost is, it depends on whether or not they've gotten into stupid mode about it being so collectible. These are shooter grade, good to very good condition pistols for $250. I have fired so many of these. I can't even count how many we both owned and stowed away and cosmoleined up in groups of five. Last batch of these that I saw, we had 20 of them in a pile. They were in the armorer's chest, ready to go. I again squared away, got them back in the day. We got them for $65 a piece. It was a box of 20 that had been picked up by somebody probably back in the early 80s. and it had a whole pile of them. No paperwork, all clean and green, and they're all put away somewhere. Sitting in a part of the state of Michigan where when the time comes, there's 20 handguns for 20 people to go hunt black uniform moose. So again, and spare mags, back in the day mags were a couple dollars apiece, then they went to about five dollars apiece, then six. Right now they're probably going to be between 12 and 18 dollars at least. But look at the price of all the other mags you can't really go oh my god look at the price anymore because they what are they charging? Hey, whatever the market will bear. We know that but this is JG sales.com JG sales.com these are star Now they have two models one is the world World War two production model which by the way the Germans carried those they actually you know carry all the carry the variation rad radom made one that was a variation on the pistol and These guns ended up in a lot of different people's hands on all sides. Post World War II, they ended up, of course, with an export pistol going all over the Middle East, all over Central America. Why? Because they matched up to the other guns that they were carrying in Central America, which were mostly 1911 knockoffs. and 9mm 45, they didn't care as long as they got more guns and the price was right. So that may be where these came from. These could be surplus from Central or South America. There might be some stampings on them. I haven't talked to them say, hey, these things stamp from any particular country. They could be Spanish law enforcement pistols. That's possible too because a lot of those police departments over there have been carrying these guns for many, many years. Nothing wrong with that. They work just fine. $250 a piece, definitely reasonably priced. Now, ammunition, 9mm, well go to UNAMMO.com. He just got a pile of ball ammunition in, three or four different flavors, and the price is probably the best in the country because it quotes, it includes shipping. So I can't stress enough if you can find it that way with shipping included. That's AMMOMAN.COM, AMMOMAN.COM, AMMOMAN.COM. or UNAMMO.COM. Both of those weapons, more serviceable enough as far as the stars go, but again like I said I'm not worried about the collectability. I would go with the post war of the supermodel only because there's a lot of aftermarket mags out there. Typically you can go to a gun show There will be a guy that does 6, 7, 10 tables of mags. He will have the aftermarket versions of those mags. He might have some military ones. But mostly he is going to have aftermarket. Hey, that's good enough. This is a $250 pistol. You are trying to keep the cost down. You want more ammunition. You need more mags. It's a straight, in-line, simple magazine to build. so it's going to be pretty reliable and pretty easy to operate. Nothing fancy, nothing to write home about, but definitely something that you point, click, and it hits the target and puts it down. So that's what you're interested in. Or at least Barks Like a Dog keeps them busy. How's that sound? Pop! Pop! There you go. Next, I mentioned the Sarco and again www.e-sarcoinc.com. We just posted in the chat room there for everybody, e-circoinc.com. CIRCO has gotten a whole bunch of pistol parts in recently. You might want to take a look. It's too numerous to mention. I don't even know for sure what all they got. But there's a whole bunch of really cool stuff out there. One of the things that they got on the front page, if you want to check out something really interesting, they've got 50 caliber Dardic round, trowels available. The troweled round. How many of you have seen a triangular cartridge? Anybody? Well, they pull this stuff out of the box every once in a while and they find unique things laying around. 50 caliber experimental machine gun Dardic. drowned round This was a wonderful invention out of Hamden, Connecticut the proprietary creation of dr. Dardic or forgive me Mr. Dardic led the way for others to experiment more fully with unconventional small arms cases and delivery systems Made famous, but the Dardic pistol so everybody might want to check it out There's a good picture of the round there and I've tried to explain it to people Well now I don't have to you can look at the picture guys. It'll give you an idea what we're talking about Go ahead color Yes, very fluffy. I saw a video, I downloaded a video off YouTube showing that machine gun using those trownd type rounds. It was extremely reliable and very high speed. It would have been a good one. The indexing system is the big thing. Back in the day when the trownd came into service, the only thing that really killed it was the massive availability of post-World War II surplus. It was something that could have been built. We certainly had the technology to make it work. In some ways with the machine gun round, considering what they did with some of the commander killers that were built in the 60s and 70s, and guys I'm not joking, that used to be the nickname for the cupola guns. They were called the commander killer. They easily de-head spaced and then what happened is the commander's got his head right up there next to the gun. He's looking through the optics. He's pulling the chain on the gun and the whole side plate would go and visit the side of the tank commander's head and that would be about all she wrote. This was a better solution. Everything I've seen on it as far as the performance. It would have fit into those tight spaces and offered more ammunition. That was the other problem with the cupola guns. They were internally mounted. They only carried a 50 round can inside. About the time you got on a target, you were out of ammunition and you had to start reloading again. The drowned idea would have doubled or tripled the capacity in the same space. and probably tripled. Available space by the way the thing stores and how efficiently it's stored and indexed, it was a pretty interesting round. Again, if everybody wonders what we're talking about, go to e-circoinc.com. It's the Dardikt-Tround round. It's a trownd! No, look, they're firing at us. How many rounds are going down range, sir? How many trownds? A really neat idea and self-consuming. The whole process was very much ahead of its time. The Germans were the next ones to push for caseless variable geometry ammunition. In fact, I don't know if you've ever seen the German caseless rounds and what they look like. I believe I do. I believe they developed them. Right. They look almost like a Zippo lighter with a bullet in the top of a lighter is what they look like. They actually had a really strange, rectangular and boxy which is interesting. The objective was to come up with a completely consumable system so there was no case ejection. The only problem with that is you have to have an efficient bore evacuation and you certainly have to be able to evacuate or self-clean the action. That means the internal components have to be scraping everywhere. Not that it's a problem, it's just the first thing you have to think about if you were discussing the idea of doing something like that. So just an idea. Yes, as I recall, looking at a schematic of the gun, the The chamber actually rotated to receive the new round and rotated again and in the process supposedly was pretty self-cleaning. Right. It was a positive scrape system. That's the whole idea. Remember we talked about wedge on wedge. When you do wedge on wedge, it keeps the system tight. During a mechanical process, it also helps to scrape clean the surface area. It's also working motion forward, front to rear, front to rear, any side motion. That's what I'm saying. In order for this to work with caseless or unique geometry ammo, it has to evacuate detritus. It has to evacuate carbon, which is the most important thing. That was one of the things that had been worked out. The weapon, the pistol, looks unique. It looks like a British Enfield revolver. Although the infield even has more forward lines. The crown is set more over the hand and look more like a ray gun than most ray guns do. Yeah. Which I thought was neat. One of our friends here has a 22 collector and he's got a whole house, three floors of 22. It's probably one of the most complete 22 collections. His wife collects Indian blankets and Indian pottery. He has three of them in his gatervating around the Midwest at yard sales because that's where he picks up a lot of the unique stuff. Especially in Ohio for some reason, I guess somebody did a real good job of selling some of these in Ohio. He's got two of them that are still in the box and another one that's pristine but somebody actually had the drawer ready to use with the ammunition on standby. So it would kill you dead. I mean, we're not joking. That's a fight. It's a unique looking gun It's funny looking but it's not funny if you get shot by it, you know, it's the old story It may be a goofy looking gun sir, but it's a deadly gun Yeah, it will kill you though. You know, don't think twice about that go. I heard about that's a trial on the gun I don't have to oh, oh, oh, oh, you know Oh man. That's leaving leaky holes. That's not good. I guess that thing works after all. Hell, it only works once it's done its job. Think about it. Ah, one hole's enough. There we go. I'll wait. The ammunition's expensive. Are you going to die yet? I'm thinking about it. Ah, good. You just bleed right there. You got anybody with you? Well, take care of them with the rest of the magazine. That's okay. You just hold still there and bleed for me. Thank you. A couple other things real quick with regard to SACO. Remember I mentioned those Laceon high rise sniper cheek pads, the copies that are being made from World War II. SACO has them on the front page for under $20 for $19.95. That's as good a price as anywhere in the country, guys. But if you're building up like one of these AKs or whatever and depending on how you establish the optics especially with those long eye relief scopes This is the solution I was talking about So just something taking a consideration there anything else for me, please jump in there. I'm sorry. No, no, not it not at this time. Very good. I appreciate that Thank you, sir Didn't want to cut you off. I just wanted to make sure I got that in there We are headed towards the top. We've got of course. We've got a whole hour coming up But again, those Lason leather high rise cheek pads, like a Monte Carlo, an add-on Monte Carlo pad, these were used extensively on the M1 Grand and the M1903A3 when it was used in the sniper configuration with the scope, the number of different scopes that were added on during the Korean War. Now, it can be used on the nagot rifle where a lot of guys have that narrower thinner stock and you need to get your head up a little higher with the scope or the system that you put together. Well, this is a solution to deal with that. So again, for everybody out there, take the time to check it out and go to e-circoinc.com. Now, most people are going to go, Mark, why would I want this? They also have 8mm Hakim magazines in stock again. Now these have been back and forth. They sold out of these before. Unfortunately they are $41.50 a piece. But hey, take a look at the price of some of those Sega magazines that came out. So for a military 10 round steel mag for the Hakim, If you needed to replace one or if you had to have some more, then this is the mag that would be the solution right here. $41.50 a piece is on the front page. The Hakim is a copy in 8mm of the Leujiman rifle and it is a tack driver. Most everybody looked at those and thought, well, that's kind of goofy. I would take that to the range during our range demonstrations. Guys, the Hakim will do everything the Grand will do. especially an 8mm. Now the Lügerman in 6.5 ain't nothing to sneeze at either and the only thing that gets me, that really makes me scratch my head, the Lügerman rifle is the Model 42, built in 1942 and the Germans knew that it existed. And I do not know why the Germans did not build it. If the Egyptians at the Mahdi plant could build the Hakim rifle, which is the 8mm Mauser version, the 792x57 round, that means that the Germans could have built the Hakim, or again, forgive me, the Luzhieman, in 8mm Mauser and they would have had a semi-automatic gas-operated rifle that was as good as the Grand. A magazine fed with two more shots and an 8mm Mauser so they could have continued to use their heavy battle rifle cartridge where needed. There is no explanation for why they didn't do that. Now the FN49 was hidden. In fact what they did when Belgium was being overrun, the FN49 rifle design was already completed. They were in such a hurry, what they did is they took the plans and all the specs and drawings and buried them literally in a vault, in a hole underneath the factory. Then they covered it up and ran like hell. When they came back when Belgium was reoccupied, lo and behold, the prints were right there and they continued the project to build the FN 49, which is the mother of the FN FAL. Now that rifle, they couldn't get hold of. But the MKB-42, the MB-42 rifle, that was available in over the counter. And it was as good a rifle, if not superior in several ways to the FN-49 and to the G43 rifle the Germans made. So I would scratch my head and go, okay, how did that happen? Because it does make you wonder. Anyway, boy isn't it fascinating how that noise comes and goes off the service line for the ground? Oh, man, well it's gone for the moment, but it'll be back I'm sure. The garbage technology and with the really poor wire caps, it's just that way when you get, you know, garbage for employees. Anyway, last but not least from Sarco, don't forget pistol mag parts, magazines, magazine components if you need replacement parts, star mags, a little bit of everything in terms of para-ordinates. In fact, I think they bought the para-ordinates inventory out. I don't know why. I'm going to talk to the guys about that probably tomorrow. I was going to do it today. Ran out of time because there are too many things I need to get done. But, again, if you've got a pair of ordnance, if you've got a chubby stubby, one of those little belly guns, guys, they've got everything you need for spares for your weapon right now at e-circoinc.com. If you've got a pair of ordnance guns, you better get over there to Sarco and start checking out their inventory because everything you need to make that run for the next century is sitting there for a really, really good price. Okay, very reasonable price. In fact, as good as factory from the original company. So again, that's a pair of ordnance components and parts and under pistol parts and accessories is where you go. Ooh, wait a minute. They've still got Ruger P85s in stock. How did that happen? Hold on here a minute. I may be wrong. Oh, they've also got a whole inventory of P85 parts now. Okay, for everybody out there listening, if you need firing pins spraying extractors for $12. If you got a P85, you be pouncing on this, boys. They have firing pins for the P85 Ruger for $14 apiece. They've got firing pin blocks for $6 apiece. They have the plungers, the pins, and all the rest of the goodies to include the safety left. They even have a couple of spare slides and very reasonably priced. This is the Ruger P85 and a lot of you guys have the Ruger P85. This is all brand new stuff they just pulled out of the inventory here. Probably Israeli because apparently the Israelis had a number of Ruger P85s. That's part of the doggy treat that Ruger got before he died. Probably selling to the Israelis so he could screw the American gun owners because that's what Ruger did. However, the P85 pistol is out there in force. There's a lot of them. I know a bunch of our guys that are listening right now that have them. So if you're looking for parts, and I know a lot of guys are, firing pin, extractor, all the small components, you're talking very reasonably priced, you're talking Ruger factory parts, and you're talking the best price in town, because I've been looking at the prices on those parts for a long time. Also, again, Para-Ordnance components, if you go to E-Desk Circle, Inc., go through all the fun stuff they've got there. They have a whole pile of star parts and accessories. So the star I was mentioning, yep, they've got everything else to keep running and going if you pay attention and go through the parts inventory. Now as far as mags, I don't know. I haven't gone through the mag section yet. We're at the top of the hour though. We've got to go for the moment. Really cool. The Ruger parts, again, E-Das Tarko ink. Check it out. You got a P85. There's your spares to keep her running for another 50, 60 years, kid. I buy two or three of the barn pins, two or three of the extractors. And then I buy the snot out of the mags and I might even get a spare slide and barrel. Just keep collecting. Keep that Ruger going for a long time. That's a good strong action. God bless the Republic, death of the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We're on a march. We'll be back here in just a little bit for the second hour of the intel report. It's Weapons Wednesday on LTR. Looks good to you and just real and pretty. So far.