Mark Koernke and Don discussed Eric Holder's resignation as Attorney General, criticizing his departure as an attempt to evade accountability for Fast and Furious rather than a principled stand. They explored how the Constitution has been effectively nullified through codified federal law, the War Powers Act, and executive orders, arguing that the president remains in office despite constitutional eligibility questions because constitutional law no longer governs. The second half of the episode featured Don's detailed discussion of night vision technology, including first, second, and third generation green screen devices, thermal imaging systems, and practical applications for surveillance and field operations, with specific pricing and inventory updates on available equipment.
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His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me, he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free, the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children and people. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right. Praise God! You're very faint! You hear a lot of background noise with me? Just... As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, we have ourselves to blame. For even now his tyrants trampled, each God-given right. We only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep, and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? And I'm Don Butcher. The lines in occupied territories West, Southwest, East, and... North. 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It's been a beautiful day pretty much for the whole day here and the bottom of the state what's liking your neck of the woods what's the day today what's jumping up. The 26th day of September, year of our lord 2014 and we're just about 10 minutes past five almost 10 minutes past five on that east coast that still is daylight savings but hey it's a beautiful day here and the sun's gonna go down earlier and all of that hey it is the 26th day of September someone earlier in the day, Mark, saying that I'd be really happy if we carried this weather the other side of Thanksgiving, but it's Michigan. You've got to live with what you get. Again, on the 26th of September 2014. A couple things are jumping off the wall. But before we go there, I'd like to say this, just out of personal opinion, and it doesn't really belong here at all, but they say, Rome fell from the lead pipes. The other thing they say, Rome fell from its own decadence, Mark. Well, Rome kind of fell because it counted on too many outside people to kind of keep guard at the gates, too. That's one of the major reasons why Rome fell. But let's go back to the decadence thing. You know, Mark, could you imagine waking up in the morning and putting toast in the tote, you know, a couple of slices of bread or even four slices of bread in the toaster and, well, you know, you push the button down and you go get your favorite thing to spread on top of it. Now, hey, that could be jelly, that could be peanut butter, that could be butter and a little bit of cinnamon. But you know what? Imagine waking up in the morning and spreading chocolate icing from a cake on your toast. And that's acceptable now because you know Nabisco is marketing that. Mark, you can wake up in the morning and spread chocolate on your toast now. And again, you wonder why Rome fell. Boy, the decadence of it. Just the sheer, I expect everything in heaven on earth of it. Boy, oh boy. Now again, that was Jay. I find that up with the front just Don's opinion But you know what? That's one would have to say if that's what you want. You could pop the toaster When the toast jumps up, you know, you got your favorite beverage and your favorite chocolate covering on your toast Well, this is the life Mmm-hmm. Mmm. Boy, oh boy. There's a whole lot more in the world than that. Isn't there? We've addressed this before and I just I had to use that. This is a welcoming mat of today's Afternoon Intelligence Report. Toast with chocolate on it. For breakfast in the morning and that's... Whoa. Again, you guys, you know, it's... Next we'll expect the toaster to cover it for us and to put it in our mouth. And if it doesn't happen, well, gee, we're just gonna have to have the government do something about that, huh Mark? And I don't mean to be like Andy Rooney here. It wasn't meant to be like, I don't mean to be like, you know, any other people who, you know, twist things together like that. But boy oh boy, you wonder why Rome fell. And you wonder how people don't pay anything, any attention to anything. But the toast with the chocolate on it. Wow. And I know we've got people out there who have their eyes open. Most every one of you that listen to this hour. You know what I'm trying to point out here. And it's a goofy odd way to do it. But it's true, isn't it? I don't want my toast with chocolate on it every morning. Wow. Whatever happened to bacon and eggs for breakfast? Whatever happened to a bowl of Wheaties? You know, nutritious things? And this is the way we start our day, the foundation. And now I'm not going to continue on with this, but you know, we could work that whole foundation thing into a whole different venue of talk on the hour. Because the place, the foundations have been crumbled. We just had the chief cops land. That was one way he was referred to by one of the talking heads talk show people through the day. He's the head cop of the land and he resigned. But let me see, they didn't bother to talk about gay marriage that he pushed. They didn't bother to talk about Fast and Furious that he was part and parcel thereof. We're not talking about Operation Gunliner that happened under the bushes. He continued it under a different name. And he's of the cabinet that, well I don't need to elaborate on that. There are a whole bunch of other things. But the major push forward there was, well we don't need him around if we continue to push this fast and furious thing. And as was mentioned earlier in the day, Mark, that's like Bernie Madoff saying, you can't hold me responsible for the first 18 billion I doked out of people. Why, I did that so long ago. At any rate, you see? Now, Let's go over to that guy because the chief law enforcement officer, the head cop of the land he was referred to by the mainstream, you know, the talking heads media. But you know what? That same guy, he's leaving for the same reasons that the press secretary, I would remind you, the second press secretary left. And at the beginning of that week, the press secretary appeared as if he would back up a lie that came from the The Oval Office, directly from the President. It appeared as if he would back up that line. We talked about that treason to back up the President on this issue. Two days later he resigned, rather than continue along with that. Now Holder is not of that ilk. Holder isn't resigning on a principle here. Holder is resigning to try to dodge a bullet. There's no question about it. I don't hold that job anymore. You can't hold me responsible. That's what he's going to try to say when Congress drags him in front of them, the United States Congress, and asks why he didn't come up with against himself and the President Administration on the matter of fast and furious. Now Fast and Furious, Mark was referenced today by the same talking heads. And did you know that Fast and Furious was referenced today, you guys, as the APF lost 14,000 guns in Mexico? Which in reality is more like 40,000. But to include stolen guns from armories all over the country that were supposed to guns that were supposed to be returned to their property. Just that statement alone, the ATF lost 14,000 guns in Mexico. How idiotic is that? That's an army's worth of guns. That's a division's worth. A division's worth of weapons. That's a division's worth of weapons. We just left them there. When we got up and broke camp, we just forgot them. Yeah, we had him shipped there and our guy wasn't there to sign for it, or somebody else did. How do you lose? How stupid is that statement? But this is again the talking hens trying to defend someone of the same ink or ilk. And we have people killed for them. Yeah. Right, on both sides of the border, Mexican and American. What were they doing there to begin with? They don't even bother to question that. They just lost them. Or we left them in a pickup truck, 72 pickup trucks. Or no, we left them in a semi-trailer, three or four of them. And we just drove them to the other side of the border and we forgot they were there. So when we remembered them, we went back and they were gone. Now we can't even say they were stolen. We just lost them. See how idiotic that statement is? But this is what they want us to believe. So again, Holder is not leaving the out of some kind of I need to do this because I'm a loyal American and the Constitution has been violated and I'm doing this out of protest. If you believe that, well, I've got a bridge in Florida and some swampland and let me see what else. A Russian bear and the Easter bunny. By the way, Santa Claus will deliver this to you after you pay me for it. Okay, now we've stacked that one to obvious doubt, right? Right? Right? You look at this guy, the, how many, there's only three people left from this guy's cabinet that were original some six years ago. It's, you know what happens to a sinking ship? All of the passengers, if they're allowed to and not locked below decks, why they leave. If there are enough lifeboats, everybody gets off of the lifeboat. Pretty soon, you look in the bottom of the lifeboat, there are rats scurrying around. A little while later, just before the ship goes down, there are a whole bunch of rats swimming in the water too. Now which one is named Eric Holder? It's that plain and simple. He thinks that stepping off of this sinking ship, his portion of the administration, that's how he sees it, will allow him to be rescued by someone in a boat or simply to step from the sinking ship into a lifeboat. That didn't work. while they're appearing to hound him on this. Now, let's go back over because this is the head law enforcement of the land. We have to question what type of law does he enforce because you know what was brought before him and I know that this goes back to I'm going to bring up the birth certificate issue in order to continue this thought line. This is old stuff now. We see that they ignore it and we know that it was cut and paste. I'll simply bring up the subject of the name of the hospital in the time frame when he was born and the name of the hospital after 1973 and the birth certificate that would have the old name on it, not the new name of someone who would say, gee, let me figure out how we would do this. That's the hospital he was born in. Oh yeah, what's the name of it? Again, tell me that name. It goes down on the fraudulent birth certificate. We've addressed that. Many people have. Even Donald Trump has picked apart the birth certificate right there in what one might call the courtyard of the nation by the bell ringer on the mainstream media. Almost everybody who pays any attention saw that. Now, you wonder how that can be brought to such common thought line, let alone commonly challenged, but if there is a fire over there, everybody that looks at it is going to say, yes, that is a fire. Some people are going to say, we don't even have to put it out. So you see what I mean about openly challenged? It becomes a common thought, but not necessarily openly challenged. And how do they get away with not persecuting this guy. How do they get it? Prosecuting is a proper word. I understand that. He needs to be persecuted for it. He should be persecuted. How do they get away with, under a constitutional government, our United States government, how do they get away with not bringing this in front of Congress and then in front of the Senate and then the vote out because he's not an American citizen? Well, let's go back to the chief law enforcement officer of the land. He's not enforcing constitutional law. We we touched on this the other morning and then it was agreed on for another moment, but you guys Eric Holder not persecuting not prosecuting Whatever the guy's name is Barry Satoro Bama Lamma ding dong whatever his name is for being a president and not being a native Natural born citizen a citizen not even a citizen of the United States that doesn't happen because That constitutional qualification does not exist. And I pause there. And I pause again. Because a lot of people know this, but most people, the average person doesn't know this. But they don't know about what happens to them when they sign up for their credit, when they sign up for their driver's license, or I started to say credit card, or even credit card, or when they, because a credit card opens up a whole banking world to you, or to them. when you sign up for Social Security and there's money, your money involved with them again. Most people, they do this because their parents did. And they do this because they are told the government says you need to. But simply by signing for Social Security, you've signed away your constitutional rights. By signing up for a driver's license, you've signed away, I mean, you've kicked the rest of the dirt into the grave for your right to travel. Because now these are all under codified law. not constitutional law, codified law. Public law number or HR number, public law number, and I do that again because they just have piled them up to the extent that there are over four and a half million federal laws. Now if you take that four and a half million, four and a half million laws, if every law has 20 words in it, just do that. Four and a half million, forty, five million, 90 million words to try to interpret or try to displace the how many words are in the Constitution. I've never bothered to count and I'm certain you could ask Suri and she'd tell you. But you know, that is a diversion. That is a way to say line by line when we write this line down and make it law. It negates. It nullifies. It puts under the rug a little portion of the Constitution. And granted, it didn't take them four and a half million laws to do that. They could have done it with a million laws. They could have done it with plenty. They could have done it with five. They could have done it with one had they wanted to be so blatant. But had they come up, Mark, do you think America would have said, if federal government would say, well, we want to pass this law that nullifies the Constitution, do you think that But we need Americans to vote for it. Do you think America comes up with part of it? Do you think America would vote for that? I don't think so because most Americans still think we live under constitutional law. See that? But if they came up with a law that says, well, we're going to write this into law and you don't have any say on it, this law nullifies and negates the Constitution, makes it worth not even the paper it's written on. How many people do you think would step up and say you can't do that? I'm not certain. I don't want to venture a guess for that. But there are a lot of people now. The Patriot Movement has made a lot of people aware, taking place of the public fool system in that event timeline. And that is a proper way to describe it. It truly is. The Militia Movement has done the same thing, making people aware of what the Constitution is and isn't. But when we look at this, let's go back to this. Why is he allowed to remain president? Because we addressed this the other day. According to the law of the land, he is a legal and lawful president. According to the law of the land, he is a legal and lawful president. Because you know what? There is no law against a foreigner being president of the United States once you nullify the Constitution. Is there? And they have nullified the Constitution. They've done it in a number of ways by literally writing laws that displace it and by invoking the War Powers Act. Now Mark can elaborate more on the War Powers Act than I can. What it and how it and what it does to you, how it beats you down, how it takes so much from you. But with that, the Constitution goes away. With that, it allows every president that has written an executive order has done it under right of the War Powers Act. If we weren't at war, a president could not write an executive order. Isn't that true, Mark? Well, even there, the executive orders originally were contained to a degree from the get-go. The most common problem we've had is as they've progressively escalated into the Imperium or the Imperial Props, unacceptable, we need a shooting warrant problem. Both sides agreed that because they're all fellow ring knockers, they back each other and never challenge each other's executive orders. Which is why executive orders have not been overturned. Oh, they might make a comment. Oh, we filed something in the Congress and did you stop it? Well, would you say? Uh, Congress has never stepped forward and put their foot down. But the moment somebody do it does now, because deal, because I guarantee that that would be one of the first things that would be boarded somebody's face. Now, I guarantee it. There's a system, you know, the Senate and the House, so you know, there's a mechanism in place, and we don't do that. That's their words, too. Yeah. Of course they don't, because the overall agenda to screw the country is the real agenda. Think about that. This falls over to, again, you know, we could say, where's Eric Holder? But Eric Holder, he's still on the job. He resigned and as soon as they can find somebody to replace him, they will. You'll wonder. Well, now he's, I'm sure, one thing that Holder's into, by the way, that we need to remind everybody of, he is going to be doing a flurry of Screw America's last minute. Oh, yeah. Right now, even as we speak, his old faggot pen dipped in, you know, Obama's feces and, you know, you'd normally stir between Obama's butt cheeks. Oh, he's signing, he's signing the Deficate on America paperwork everywhere he can. Right now, even as we speak, well you know, Holder did this before he left and we just didn't know. See, that's the other thing you're gonna be hearing pretty soon. We didn't know they were doing this. Well you should've, weren't you the people doing the job? Oh no, don't you point fingers! Let's not do the blame game! What are all the scams they've used where it's, yes, well you're supposed to be doing the blame game. If you're involved in the criminal act. Exactly. See, that's the problem with this whole, this is BS from the get go. That's something we all need to remind everybody of. Um, anyway, I'll tell you what, before, uh, because we are at the bottom of the hour. Night vision technology, you have it. It's available. How can we get hold of you? What do you have and what significant changes have been taking place here just in the last couple of weeks because we've been running out of inventory haven't we sir? Oh yes. We talked about this at the beginning of the year when we were made aware of this. We brought this information to you at the next available opportunity which was about January 6th or 7th or whatever that Monday or Tuesday was. But at that time I was informed that well first generation green screen is going to disappear from the market by about the end of the year. And I didn't know and we questioned it on the air if that was going to be a date-line thing or a parts-numbers thing. And over time we found that it was a parts-numbers thing and the parts-numbers have dwindled to the point where we don't have that two-power first generation gun sight that's .308 capable. We don't have that anymore. We don't have that three-power green screen viewer. It's gone. And last week, the last I was talking with them Thursday, and Friday and then Monday morning, someone over the weekend bought the last just around 200 of the five power viewers. I know we were talking about doing that on the year, but we lost out on that for again not striking fast enough. That comes from just that wasn't anything on this end. It's just the opportunity came. If it would have come two days or three days earlier, those would have been ours and we'd have been able to sell them at any price we wanted. But again, someone got to him before us. And it was just a matter of someone sitting right there in that seat. And I'll tell you what, the bank cheated him out of his house. And he went to a lawyer. And when it was done, he got more than three times what he had into that house back. And he's got this sitting in the bank and he's saying, well, what can we do to make some money, Don? And I told him this and it went away. And so that was just a matter of paths crossing. I could almost, I was almost able to do that for us, but had I known that a week earlier for certain, we'd have had those 200, but they're gone now. I don't have any viewer in green screen in the first generation now. I've got gun sites in first generation, that four power and six power, the four power right in your mailbox for $390. That makes those guys selling it from ATM. Those guys that want to get at least $449, it makes them a little bit nervous. Put that right in your mailbox for $390. You see, if they ask you for $449, they're going to get delivery beyond that. And if they ask you, the first time you call them, they might even ask you for $479 for the same device I'm offering for $390. I get kind of excited about that. Let me see the difference. $479 and $390. That's $89, isn't it? Monday morning he might ask you for $479 for it. Monday afternoon the same thing. You call him Tuesday, you call him Wednesday. If he hasn't made a sale all week by Thursday he might be saying, man, I'll sell this to you for $449. Then I've got to get delivered. I'm spending too much time on this. But I'll put that same device right in your mailbox for $390. My phone number is 23196-8458. Right now I talked to my guy this morning but he was sitting in the airport. He didn't have his computer available and he couldn't tell me how many of those we have left. So I might have an answer before the day is done. But you know what? Today is Friday. In the first generation green screen department you guys it's getting kind of skinny in the findings. I know where we've got some but Monday, Tuesday I don't know. With that in mind I can lock things down to a certain extent. five of those for me until you'll have the check tomorrow kind of deal. If you're looking in that direction you guys, I don't know how much longer we'll have that green screen first generation. The option would be a device that uses the mechanical innards, that's another highly technical phrase, the guts from a DVD video recorder and uses because well that can amplify light and low light. Well they call that night vision now in first generation. Now I have a piece of that in my hand. It's sent to me for a different venture. I've got to say, if there's a good amount of light out there, it's not a bad performer. By the time there's no moon in the sky, it performs about like first generation. You really, really, really want to turn on the illuminator, but it puts white light out. We've talked about this. I'll throw another device in here. When we talk about thermal, set on black and white, or white and black, It puts white light out too, thermal does, but most of your thermal pieces have a good eye cup. You know, a good rubber boot to bring up to that area, you know, of eyebrow and cheek and almost, you know, your temple there to seal that white light off. Thermal pieces do. Well, the viewers where we have now, it's just simply a, like a half moon boot and you're looking into that half moon boot that is cut flat and now you're looking at the lens. There's no eye cup that comes back to meet your flesh structure. You have to do that with your hand. We've talked about white light on your face at night. This is what we'll have in first generation. It was brought to my attention that these, if they are of a particular build, they're backlit by white LEDs. If you wanted a green screen, you'd backlit them with green LEDs. I brought that to the company's attention. Some of the other things I've suggested to them over the years, they have moved on. Let's see if they move on this. But this is one of them production things. If they do, we might not see it for 60, 90, or 180 days. But I can't tell you that they're going to. So we're looking at white light coming out of it. If that's what you procure in the future, or I remind you, if you've got a piece of thermal, white light comes out of the thermal. You need to pay attention to the light discipline as it plays across your face at night. That comes from using your holding the device with one hand and you're using your other hand, be it left or right, as a boot between the device and bridging across the top of your index finger or your ring finger is just beyond the bridge of your nose. Because of that, you're sealing off all the light to the top. and your thumb is back almost on the temple of your, you know, in front of your ear and because of that it's closed to the palm area and you're not leaking any light out that way. See what I mean about that light discipline and trying to build a boot with your hand? It can be done but you guys, it's not as good as a real rubber boot and it's not as good as with green screen light. We've pointed this out many times. I got a second generation gun sight at 1248 right in your mailbox. It's 308 capable. It is 2 power. You will see an example of that on the Night Vision video. When I mentioned this is second generation, it's the very same device. Now, I'm not trying to double talk you. It's not the same device I used in the Night Vision video. But it is, you know, it's brother. It's sequential serial number. Same example thereof. So when you see the second generation example in the Night Vision video, That's the device I can put in your mailbox for $1,248. Hey, my phone number is 2317-96-8458. Again, 2317-96-8458. I've got a piece of thermal right in your mailbox, handheld. $1,895, it's a viewer. The manufacturer calls it a flashlight. $1,895, that's a piece of thermal. $1,895 right in your mailbox. It wasn't that long ago. You couldn't even imagine a piece of thermal for that kind of price, let alone something that would be, you know, well, they'll let you carry it around for that kind of price. Now, if you want to move up to a very good, it's in the top, it's in the 65 to 70 percentile of this class of shooter. We can go to a website from ATN. and it will be variable power, it will have the bigger screen. We've talked about thermal. When you pick up a piece of thermal, generally you don't look at a round screen behind the round eye piece, you're looking at a rectangular picture. There are generations in thermal like there are in green screen. In green screen you've got first, third generation, first generation. Again, old technology. Second generation, they add in another plate, the first generation. And man, it really jumped up in performance. and third generation they made the channels in the plate smaller giving you more lines per millimeter and they put coatings on the front of the plate letting more light in but also protecting the device from unwanted things and to a certain extent protecting the device and greatly increased the life and gave it a finer picture and a little more light amplification. First, second, third generation described their in green screen. There's no such thing as those generations in thermal. You'll have different sized viewing screens and you'll have different cyclic ability. The handheld device cycles at 9 cycles per second. Your entry level gun sights are going to, if someone's offering you a gun sight that's cycling at 9 cycles per second, I wouldn't think too much of it because it's going to look like a Charlie Chaplin movie. In fact, there will be times when you don't see if someone is running across the field directly 90 degrees across your field of vision. At nine cycles, you're not going to see swings of the leg or swings of the other leg, depending on how it's cycling or the arms pumping or for an instant if he turns to look at you and then looks back at his front, you might not see that at nine cycles because again, it's going on and off and on and off. At 30 cycles you've got a pretty consistent picture, but about every 30 to 40, maybe once, maybe twice a minute, the device will go quick, you'll ever so slightly hear that because it shut itself off and turned itself back on, so to speak, to catch its breath. Other than that, if it continued running, it would start to overheat. These are uncooled devices. A long time ago, the problem with thermal vision was, man, it has to be cooled, and well, these are uncooled. devices. So this is a way to keep them from overheating. At 60 cycles, these are three different grades of thermal tubes here. 60 cycles, you're going to get a constant picture. Once in a while, every few minutes, you'll see that click. If you're in a desert and it's really hot, you might see that click at about a minute and a half. Offer an instant and come right back on. When you look to the oc- now that's the tube of thermal vision. When you look to the ocular side, again looking into the round port and seeing a rectangular image, two different gradients there and that goes over to the size of the image that you're looking at, 240 by 480 and that 240 being tall, 480 wide, so you know, measured, put together. It's twice as long as it is tall. But you can bump that up and if there's a cost to upgrade there to the bigger screen, You can go 480, again doubling the 240, and 620 or whatever it is on the other number. But 840 or something like that. But now that almost, that gets to the point where it's filling a good portion of your eye screen, the ocular portion of the screen that you'll look at, you know, not the focal lens. You can put a lot more information in the bigger screen. I can tell you about the full, with the big screen, and I do believe that 60 cycles and I can put that in your mailbox let me see for because I came to this conclusion with a caller earlier today who had been waiting on this number and they want like forty eight or forty nine hundred dollars for it but I can put it in your mailbox for forty three hundred bucks the thermal gun sight that is tremendous range great size of the picture again 480 and uh... doubling that wide that's with a minimum of four power and that will That will run up to like nine power. I can put that in your mailbox $400 cheaper than the manufacturer will offer it to you. My number is two three one seven nine six eight four Five eight that device will live on top of your two teeth two two three. It'll say ha ha I'm so happy here that almost just tickled It'll live on top of your 30 caliber. It'll live on top of your three three eight that fine Swedish round, you know from Sweden had to do that redundant there. That fine Swedish round, you know, from Sweden, that 338 Lapua. It'll live on top of your Barrett. It'll live on top of your Armalite 50 caliber. So with that in mind, you know, a thermal device that can survive your 50 caliber recoil for $4,300, right? I know that's the cost of a good used car. I know that. But again, I bring this to your attention because someone called and wanted to know what. And many times when I answer a question off the air, that only means that there's a bunch of other people that want the answer to it. So I brought that one to you, too. A lot of the stuff we move is entry level. You know, a 3 power first generation viewer, a 5 power first generation viewer, a 2 power first generation gun sight. Now, those are gone, but we've still got the 4 power first generation gun sight. We've got the 6 power in the same category, both of them 308 capable. And then if you want to stay with the green screen, we've got to go up to second generation you guys. It's 231-796-84. 58. I yield to you Mark, but I'd say goggles are gun sights, green screens are thermal. No. 2317968458. Let's go back for just a minute here with regard to the thermal, the base model that we're talking about. Somebody asked before when they heard the explanation, can you freeze an image and evaluate it? Almost every piece of thermal, particularly the gun sights, You can take a picture into the device and then later download it into your computer You can't freeze it right there in the screen Unless you get up into some really tall stuff as far as the money tree You know you'll have to reach like a giraffe for some of that stuff And I hate to use that as example, and I hope I've answered that question Well here's another option, you can actually be taking the image feed it to the to the computer on time You know right now as it's happening Yes. And then evaluate it. You've got a shooter looking at what the shooter is looking at, too. But now you've got a computer screen that's trying to work in the dark. I would say that you need a long enough cord to move that into a coverable area. To be, for instance, vehicle like operator inside, unit outside being operated by another party. Yeah, or even the observer under a poncho. You don't have to get that primitive. I'm sorry. I'm listening. but i'm not certain i'm going out on a limb saying that but i know that u s b is a common connector and they have a mini u s b port now that would even fit into a phone over the other cables and connectors is not a problem i fact that's one of the things i've been doing is uh... collecting uh... ratness of cabling uh... so the connectors would be the problem so much as like you said proximity and exposure We don't want to illuminate ourselves with white light, so we have to be careful with regard to how we employ our from the get-go if we are. Well, if you want to take a white light or the little Boy Scout flashlight, you know, with the blue lens or the yellow lens or the red lens, and if you take off all the lenses, you've got white light. If you want to read a map at night, we've done that on the night vision video. You see three people under a poncho, and they ain't getting real friendly. They're trying to figure out where they're at and where we're going. When the poncho comes up you see that ever so slight blue light just out of white. I pointed that out in the night vision video. That little device, the light that comes out of that works great from reading maps, but it is hardly discernible by a night vision device. I'll have to get a part number for that. Maybe you'll find them someplace, but again, anytime you want to deny You guys, light discipline is a practice unto itself. It's something, if you're going to be using illumination of any sort, if you think about it, even a piece of night vision is illumination, even if you don't have the luminator turned on, because there's light coming out of the device. That green light on your face, worse yet, that white light on your face. We bang on that one with a hammer, don't we? You know, one of the considerations you pointed out, remember using either a poncho to cover or... coming up with a block or a canopy, or not a canopy, but a channel system to actually observe with one eye so that he could co-observe while the other man is doing it. Or again, using it on top of a vehicle or from an exposed position, running an umbilical into the vehicle, in other words, a cable into the vehicle, and hooking it up to whatever kind of optics or computer data system you have would allow for another set of eyes to evaluate while the primary system is being used. Because you can still, you can share and run both at the same time, right? Oh, there's even some caveats there, Mark, because you think of a vehicle parked over there at the other side of the parking lot and you're the security guard and somebody likes a cigarette or something in that vehicle. You see that flash of light lights up all of the windows, doesn't it? So even inside a van would be great if it were partitioned off between the driving area with a hard wall there. We've seen examples of that with doors that travel. And this is moved back into the information area where all of the light is contained. Now this is high light security. You could get away with it simply with a curtain almost inside the SUV, inside the back of the Stadern station wagon. Yeah, it would work, yeah. So again, this gives us additional eyeballs on the mission, on the job when the time comes, something we talked about that is a needful thing, especially when we're looking at surveying an area. A lot of people say, well, that earlier technology doesn't work as well. Well, it depends. Actually, it'd be kind of like one man is surveying. As the imagery is being collected, the laptop monitor, which could be any size. If it's under cover, then we don't have to worry about how big or small it is. So it could actually be a much larger piece of equipment. And what's interesting is a bigger screen gives you a greater opportunity to evaluate image. Exactly. If you take that image from what appears directly in front of your eye, about as big as your little finger and about as wide as the two joints of your little finger, now move that to about a half inch away from your eye. And that's what the standard screen is going to look like. But if you take that image up onto the computer screen and mostly fill the screen with it, granted it's going to get a little fuzzier, but you're going to see things that were small, a lot bigger. You could even if you were in the field with a hood. Like, you know, something that almost you have to divide your computer in a bag, like a little duffel bag, and your spotter puts his head inside the bag and turns it on. Now the bag just drapes back over his head and down over his shoulders, and that light, that little bit of light that comes out of the bag is striking him on his chest, but his chest is only an inch or two off the ground while he's looking at that screen. And you can talk right through the bag. So the binoculars does have a It's not a port right on the binocular. It's a rounder. It's more like a cable port, but would be a cable for your TV on one end than the other. That goes over to the question, I don't know if a cable exists that would allow you to plug it into your phone. That answered the question earlier or got that series of thought lines going. I guarantee, I can guarantee you can go from the data cable that you've got that plugs into the side of that. to any number. They're out there, it's just a matter of tracking down the one you do for your particular phone. What you would have are two different cables. One cable would be the cable coming out of that unit with its normal accessory plug from the fixture and then the other one at the other end. And then you'd have a pigtail connector in the middle. And those are all, I mean they make everything you can imagine. Every size, configuration, and if not you would make it work. You could make it happen. But the big thing is that junction, the jumper in between, and they might even be able to find an actual, just a solid fixture that plugs in from one end and has the, again, the adapter for the other fixture or a comparable one for the other. You know, to link up so that you can jump to the phone connector or the computer connector or whatever. When we talk about thank you for this, Mark, and again thank you for the phone question because that's one standard that I can use for a light discipline example. I don't think many, in particular just a few years ago, many cell phones had a flashlight mode. I don't think a whole lot of them do now where the screen had just turned white and he made a whole lot of light. But I've seen a couple of science fiction movies where the people about to get ate or squished or turned into zombies or irradiated, pick your choice. Make your pick there. Pick your dome. They use their telephones as flashlights. If it's going to light up an area, even if it's just enough that I know where I'm putting my feet, or if I bring it up and three feet away, wow, there's a zombie. Again, I'm being a bit facetious, but if it will throw that much light that far, think about trying to conceal that light. That's light discipline. That's one example. Almost everybody has held a cell phone in their hand. Just take your cell phone out at night. Turn it on and hold it about three feet or two feet from your other hand and shine it at your hand. Now imagine that's your face. That's just one example of light discipline. Imagine if that were a hundred yards away. Do you still think you'd see it? Do you think if it was dark out and that was like a little lightning bolt over there for about four seconds? This guy picks up his phone and starts doing something and then oh gosh and then closes it. Do you think that would attract your attention? I think so too. Again, light discipline you guys cannot be ... We can't underscore that enough. I go back to the old classic. 3 on a match. If you've never heard that before, Mark, we have enough time. Would you explain that to everyone? Give them the thumbnail doomsday on that one, please. With regard to, I'm sorry? 3 on a match. Well, the basic rule is, as we've said about time and again, the, hey, you know, I'm really Jonesin' for a cigarette, man. Dude, okay, so the guy lights the one person up to be his friend? Or, here's the classic, lights himself up. First. And then lights up the other guy and... Oh, wait a minute. Hold on, Frank. Oh, I just need to... I got one out. And... well, by one you've drawn attention. By two I've confirmed location. By three the bullets trap. Yep. And you know what, chances are number three might survive. They're all standing there or sitting there or laying there in a groove. Who was handling the match is the guy that has to worry. You know what I mean? Because what's the one thing a smoker does too? You know, while you're busy you've got the cigarette in your mouth. Okay, now there's two things. You might use the cigarette itself to get the other guys right, which happens all the time. And the other guys, you know, you know, sucking in the heat to get it onto his tobacco, well, that could be a negative. That's what determines the, you know, shall we say, the fickle finger of fate. That's the best way to describe it. It's a matter of, did he use a match or is he using a cigarette to get everybody else going? Well, still, he's probably got the glow stick. You know what I mean? Yup, yup. That's what it looks like on a piece of night vision, even first generation. Right now I sit here and I regret not putting that in as an example. Actually, I think we'll be working on another one. I'm looking right now at the rest of the new camouflage uniforms that we need. We have enough of the Swiss to do the Swiss Guard, the night shot with a Swiss unit. But we're going to be showing what a couple of the other patterns do at night with night vision. Why again, certain colors in and of themselves work very well. It's purely a matter of what we have available. What do you have on hand? The other thing is also I want to do with helmets and reflection and in other words, subduing metal surfaces guys or subduing any shiny surfaces. This is something else that can be an issue again when you're in the field that you have to take into consideration. And most everybody does it. They used to teach everybody to mud everything up or dirty everything up. Now we still do that with paint today. We still use paint for the same purpose. And if you've seen how people are doing ghillie suits or when they're getting gear, if we see something we don't think is subdued enough, well, break out the flat spray paint. That's what it's for. So again, that will help to reduce the characteristics that people are seriously looking for when they're seriously hunting you. Well, there's something that needs to be taken into consideration, guys. Don, again, you're going to be available. We're almost to the top of the hour here, guys, for this hour. Don, what's your number again? Give it out a few more times, please. Hey, my phone number, if you want to talk about night vision, we need to talk about helmets for a moment. Mark, if you want to talk about night vision, my phone number is 231-796-8458. Goggles or gun sights, green screens or thermal, be it a handheld or a rifle sight. My phone number is 231-796-84. 5'8". I had a call today, Mark. Is there a good deal on a Pascat helmet anywhere? How many do they need? Just one? Just one, yeah. At the moment. Well, you can... doing the five kind of thing. ...Kebwar. Two German kebwar, real kebwar helmets just came into the country. And I just got a flag on it, so I was looking and hold on here and I'll see if they still have them because they don't last long. The question would be would that accept the mount for like a PBS-14? If it works on the US path, it'll work on the German just fine. Okay. If it works on the standard US, you know, a Pascat helmet, then the Germans are identical. In fact, there's another NATO helmet, a Kevlar helmet, that is the Pascat helmet. It's a mish, they call it, right? Yes, it's been coming in and those are actually very nice also, but they're a little bit of price, but you know what happened? As soon as I mentioned those on the air... They went up in price. They were $20 less and all the fixtures basically would be the same and the mount would go right on it. But they were cheaper by $20 after we mentioned them on the air and everybody started calling in and grabbing them in the morning, then the price jacked back up to where, or jacked it up, they jacked it up to where it's the same as the standard Kevlar helmets. They obviously weren't moving as quick or whatever. They're comparable in protection. The guys have already done the rifle test on them and the pistol They perform just like the standard pass-get helmets. So they're the same. It's just another format where there's another company overseas that was building them. Or another Ford Power, of course. Probably for the Serbs, we understand. Anyway, they are out there trying to find it again. I can't find the helmets here for some reason. I don't know. that they still have on the air. Now those are a nice helmet comparable to the US Pisspot, but they have a little better line I think in some ways as far as being a little sleeker, a little tighter to the head. So that's another option too. I'll tell you what, we'll do more and crack everything down for you, but the Kevlar, they do have them in stock. I'm looking at them right now. Thank you. But well, I don't know what the sizes are, and they have both new and they have maybe used. It looks like most likely the matches just came in were virtually new on issues. But still surplus. So they are, you know, again, there's a three point connector, actually it looks like the Paratrooper connector's only here. So I'll do what we can on that one, Don. Otherwise, your number for Night Vision again, please. Hey, if you want to talk about Night Vision, my number is 231-796-8458. Very good, God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and the night. Who's wrong? Gee, who's last? Beat him down higher, make him what you got, and they never showed up here, guys. We gotta win. We'll be back in a few minutes with the next, oh, full hour of the intel report. It is Friday, Don. You know, we didn't mention that, guys. It's Friday already. Oh my goodness. Well, thank you, Don. You know, your number one night mission closes, please. Hey. 2 3 1 7 9 6 8 4 5 8, goggles or gun sights 2 3 1 7 9 6 8 4 5 8 Thank you Mark, God bless you God bless America, I'll talk to you after 7 of the revolution. Thank you for listening to LibertyTewRadio.4mg.com.
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