September 12, 2014
Evening Show
59m
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Radio Episode
2014
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Mark Koernke discussed firearms inventory and pricing from various surplus dealers, including Browning High Power pistols, Glock alternatives, and budget handgun options. He covered ammunition availability across multiple calibers, noting supply constraints due to international conflicts affecting U.S. market inventory. The show included preparedness topics such as seasonal gardening for winter vegetables, weather preparation for early frost, and a caller discussion about VEPR rifle magazine compatibility and solutions. Koernke also addressed the station's end-of-month fundraising goal for Liberty Tree Radio operations.
- browning high power
- glock pistols
- ammunition pricing
- aim surplus
- preparedness
- vepr rifles
- ak magazines
- winter gardening
- frost protection
- fundraising
- liberty tree radio
- firearms inventory
- 7.62x54r
- .308 caliber
- surplus dealers
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And our friends in the recall state waving to the left coast where we have the great state, we turn leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and land in the smoke, the Blue Ridge. The restaurant crews, Grandma teams, OK teams, and the Ma Bell Grandma Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us. Many hands make for like work a million petticoat junction operators. The ability to continue to function from everything else is Did it go Junction? Be her guest at the junction. Remember she had that little switchboard station there. Anyway, it is the- Well, no way, we've survived! We're alive! Oh, only for a short time though. Uh, 2060 is just around the corner, and Nostradamus and Aristotle said we'd all be dead by two thousand. Oh, what am I- What am I- How can I brag? Driving another day and being alive on the timber, the sixth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation. 2014 weekend. It's been a little cooler for everybody because of the weekend. This is where the ham fest really swept again. Gun shows are going to be a little more active. You know, we are headed towards some of the latest posts. I had one of the guys send me a bunch of images from one of the latest pig hunts down there in northern Texas. And they had some little pigs laid out. Those are the little suckling pigs that are going on the barbecue this weekend. In fact, they're probably on the machine right now going around this pet bee. And then a couple of four were laying there, maybe five, that deer, the other one's gonna be good also. So you got a little couple of those suckling pigs that are, you know, like about a hundred pounders. And then you got a, you know, right next to it, probably a quarter, you know, going on the spit too. And they will feast well. Again, we're heading to the big hunting season cycle, which means a lot of other stuff is gonna get eaten up. But oh, we're gonna see some things. Don't forget that at least a few companies traditionally have a cyclic, uh, huntings for federal and Now I don't know if the federal is even bothering to do this, but if they do, hey, anyway, a couple other projects here, interestingly enough, I want to jump on this because I mentioned cheap handguns. You know, I mentioned CenterfireSystems.com. They've got that diamond back. It's a baby clock. If you were to throw that in a table, the average person would go, oh, it's a clock. It's 380 auto. It's scaled down, again, 9 millimeter kurts, but it's a scaled down. uh... american copy of the clock really kind of meat so you check that out however aim surplus in button that i go walker interesting uh... but they're still part of clams you know a lot of chamoleons uh... you know a lot of uh... shekels slash uh... dollars backed up but now they do have blocks back in at five hundred and five hundred forty five dollars a piece not even those are gen three guns for a gen four and blocking forty five a c p Yeah, that's nice. Okay, that's like... not for that plastic gun, I'm sorry. Anyway, look, here's the problem. They do have some Browning high powers in. Now these are, they're actually Belgian manufactured. They want $440 for a used, but in very nice shape, Browning high power, made in Belgium, one of the Mark III's. Okay? And these are manufactured at, uh, assembled by Fabric National Arms to Gear. Uh... steel frames not the alloy top frames that came in earlier which are okay. The air weights are cool, these are steel frames so they're wanting a little more for them $439.95. High power mags should run through all of these pistols. High power mags from back in the day, a lot of guys do, I do. I've got a pile of them sitting in a little, and again that's what a lot of guys did so if you've got a stash of Browning high power mags, here's a pistol for you. Now they have the high power assembled in Portugal. supposed to have been manufactured in Belgium by Fabric National assembled in Portugal. These are Mark III model high powers with Mark III dovetail sights. And mechanically these are an excellent working condition, but expect metal wear is pictured on the outside to Ulster carry guys. So these are Browning high power Mark III's. They are $420 a piece. They are a little more wear on. And this is a aimed batch of Browning high powers with, and I don't really hurry and they just post the BAP. These are many fellowship assembled in Portugal. Why? Other than what? They didn't give me skilled tradesmen. $419 to, well let's put it this way. $420 to $440 will get you a Browning High Power. Now, if you threw a Glock or a Browning High Power on the table, which would I take? That would depend on where I was going and or what I was doing. For the high power, or a dime a dozen, and while there are a lot of power mags laying around, one of the considerations if I was where I knew there'd be other Glock I might pick the Glock for that purpose. I had to pay for it. Again, the issue being the magazine availability, there are some Hungarian FEG AP, MBPs, which are the FEG guns in .32 ACP. It's a Walthar PPK knockoff. Apparently they've got a batch of those in to again. Last very long and they go through them. And they're $200 apiece and that's a little .32 ACP pistol. It's a good gun, very good gun actually. We've got a lot of those out there already in everybody's hands. 32 ACP ammunition is available through Aguila and through their companies that have brought it in. It actually was available and nothing else was available. Remember when the ammo all dried up? Please find some 32 ACP for a while until it disappeared. If you do have any of these small pocket guns in 380 Auto, which disappears first, again that's AIM, surplus.com. Go to their handgun section. They do have a number of different weapons and the blocks and the pricey end. nothing that's really inexpensive. You're looking at dollars, remember we talked about this simply where the cap, the price has intentionally been driven up, they're bang, you know, available because more money, you figure out how that works. Now, something else has come in that I think is unique, and I'm not mentioning it because I'm going to tell everybody, go out and buy one of these! However, with, and is now importing a 22 long rifle copy of the MP40 submachine gun. And everybody goes, what? 22 long rifles. And they had to put a look-alike device on the end of the barrel of the United States rifle. 16 inch barrel on magazines. And again, like the MP44 knockoff, if you were looking for a Hollywood prop, really, really, really MP40 out of the crate. It's just a unique thing. $500 for a 22. It's like, oh, go buy an AK. I like it. It's cute, but it ain't that cute. 40 copies. knock off of a, you know, the MP40 submachine gun at 9mm. It's pretty, but she ain't that pretty. Other than that, really chop shop low on everything else as far as aim goes on firearms, especially on rifles. With regard to the Nagat rifles, which are still out there, guys, what's left is, you know, kind of like few and far between. There are some Model 91s that are still kind of bleeding in. But I would point out that one of the reasons we're not seeing them as flush on the market as they were, quite simply, you've got to remember those wars over there in the Ukraine and the ones in the Middle East, these weapons are going over to those troops and that's where they're being used. The same is true to the ammunition in the more common calibers, that was bargain basement. Armies that are in the field understand they need volume. So whatever's out there for the best price, they grab, you know, whoa, whoa, take the ammo and run. And they will spend the money, but they want the most for the least because they know they've got to arm up a whole pile of people. And that is exactly the situation that you're looking at with people that are fighting to defend themselves in Iraq from the Israelis, where Syria has been attacked by the, you know, the Israeli puppets, then they have a problem with ammunition and supply. Where Iraq, or ISIS, the Israeli APA case where they need to be and that's why everybody needs to plug in accordingly. Again, this is what they do. Don't be surprised as we don't see as quick a resupply in certain categories. The stuff is also simply being grabbed by somebody else who can also get a price but without all the BS paperwork required with the U.S.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A 748-525-2888-748-525-2. Nothing jumping off the wall and making me go wow. Those Browning high powers, if you're committed to the high power pistol, if you were looking for more, there is a solution. They seem to be the only company that got these in in good quantity. And they obviously just got them in here in the last day or two. I don't know how many they got. Don't know how long they're gonna last. I don't wanna beg go down the road. Next is, and I put up shooting.com. Now keep shooting.com. has just like one of my other companies I deal with that has a Swiss connection. Keepshooting.com seems to be picking up a lot of the... They've got a connection. Now, now all of us... One of the things they just got in here last and I've noticed they pushed it jumping at it with him. DP66 Geiger counter. Now these are $100 apiece coming out because the poles are, you know, propped through on NATO. This equipment is... You're looking at everything in there topped. equipment, the system, the manuals, all the materials, support cables, connectors, hangers, the transport storage, and for transport, like a carry handle, but it's designed for shelf storage. And then there's, again, the basic to itself with a transport mechanism so you can carry it for... You might want to check that out. Anybody want to do a little more research on it? Find the model and information off the page, and then go to the net. Other things that show up here just to give you a better feel for odds and ends, on the same page, keep shooting on the front page, Italian Army load-bearing LBE in OD Green which is again, this is not the newest but it's one of the... And if you take a look, it's a little different idea. The mag pouches, the utility pouches, everything are again pretty straightforward, self-explanatory. But take a look at it because it gives you a feel for where different countries have gone with their systems. The advantage, it's modular, molly type as far as how things work. And again, there's a big butt, not a big butt, but a little butt. The people who made this to do a lot of the other germ equipment, that is done for the Rener Revolution. And in this case, everything is a similar platform. You'll see there are several good images to show you. and if you're looking towards the border, a solid green, you have to make a decision there. There's green in the environment. If you pay attention to the video that we did, militia border deployment, it's on YouTube. The one little comment I did make there that was most critical for the coloration is, remember guys, I know there's a lot of desert color uniforms and gear out there, but when you look green, either sage green, or Ivy Green that you see. So the green colors in the, you know, see the country, northern countries of Chad or southern ends of Libya, etc., where, you know, guys, everything in between, it's on the map, is sand. In this case, the O.D. Green would probably work out okay. And for a lot of you, if you're going O.D. all the way around, then this is a match-up system. Now, these are not cheap. Remember, I've been recommending, like, you know, a quick pickup to do a, you know, so you can carry down and give away. $20 at Rap4.com. Italian Army load bearing vest is a regular issue for them. $99.99. Woo hoo! 100 dollars for the vest. A few ideas here or at least give you some examples that we are talking about. Another thing, doesn't think, that retail end is now like 10, 12 dollars a piece. Now I'm going to tell you something that really pisses me off about a lot of these. That's like about a 10 fold mark. Because at the wholesale end you can still find the black balaclava for a dollar a piece. Military made and Swiss made. Sometimes it's like they just get a little, I don't know, a little crazy in the head or a little overly greedy where they could move a lot more of the product. But I think their logic is that right now, ooh, ooh, ooh, I just gotta have it. I don't care what the price is. Well, maybe, maybe not. I think I can shop around and find better. That's why again, just because some things do say sales, doesn't mean they are. That's another thing about a lot of these companies is that the sale idea. If you're saving little or nothing or not saving at all, just because they don't want to come down or they don't want to back off in any of the prices, then slide down to somebody else. Look for another market. Look for somebody else in the industry. There's a big wave of it that just came in. Companies that one of them is Well, that's right. I talked about them before and I just talked about them a minute ago. The other is J&G sales out of it. GECO made a couple of major deliveries. Most of their stuff is held up on the docks. I pretty well talked to the guys about this. GECO tried to take advantage of the big wave last year like everybody else did, but the regime has slowed down the import process for everything. Okay? What happened? Well, GECO ammo is now hit the beach in a wave here and we're looking at 9x18 macro of ammo for 16. 40 caliber gecko, 40 caliber Smith & Wesson by gecko for $16 a box, which isn't too bad. And most of the other basic calibers are usually where you'd see gecko ammunition really common is in 25 auto, 32 ACP and 380. Well, the 9x18 macro is in the same category. So they have brought in some medium priced standard ball FMJ in a lot of different calibers even in 9mm. The 9mm is actually cheaper by a couple of dollars. Wow that's interesting. 9mm FMJ 115 grain for $13 a box which is a pretty decent price. The other thing that AIM is good for partisan more so than companies even though other people carry it. They have gotten in some of the standard like I mentioned earlier sporter calibers I should have on this earlier. 30-30 Winchester for like $13 a box. If you got a lever gun, there you go. And again, this is boxer primed. Eat a kneel. Eat a kneel. This stuff is well made. Buyers every time. Put the bullet down range and it'll keep those lever guns functioning. Of course, some of you have the Savage bolt guns in 30-30. Some of you may have the Mosbergs in 30-30. Don't get rid of those. Those leaky holes in people it's already paid for. You already got it. you're not really out anything by keeping them on the shelf. Make sure that you load up on the ammunition. So anyway, I also understand they have some .243 that came in in Pre-V Partisan. And there's a few other calibre in the fact that they may, or maybe sold already. Oh, they've done .338 Lapua on, guys. .338 Lapua already. I checked at one o'clock, they had it in stock. Now, they don't have the .338 Lapua. Other thing is, remember, Pre-V Partisan manufactures all of the odd man out caliper so the eight millimeter labelle uh... out there floating everybody uh... and showing up in good one and it is good and i wouldn't hesitate to recommend that you reloading to be a shooting so you're going to get fired from two maintain you know again you're looking at uh... sort of a learning curve for re-putting practicing practicing another caliber and you know what i haven't mentioned this in a while but twenty two two fifty Now, it's out there and usually it's one of the seasonal calibers, but if you've got a .22-250 rifle, it is a laser gun, it's a burner. Keep buying ammunition because as you know, that was one of those calibers that disappeared instantly when the ammo jump took place last year. Why? A lot of people have grandpas .22-250, they use it, they like it. Again, everybody, they always wait until the last minute to buy them this season. And this is the season coming up in October, you know actually right now, September. We should start to see the ammunition show up that's, you know, in the, you know, 243 Winchester, 270 Winchester, 22, 250, 30, 30, sometimes across your 32 Winchester Special, used to be a very standard, and of course 30 Remington, or 35 Remington. Forgive me now, 30 Remington. Did I say 30? Slap me in the microphone. If I saw that, I'd grab every cartridge up I could find. The collector's cartridge to begin with, if they made it new and they made it cheap, it's an investment. 35 Remington is .357 diameter. A lot of you guys have the Marlin lever guns and a few of the bolt guns that are in .35 Remington. Now, that particular .357 diameter bullets, in fact, are really beast projectile guns. 119 grain 9mm projectile, 357 diameter, but it's going to be a little on the, not loose, but it'll be, you know, again, kind of, you know, shall we say flappy. What's really cool is that is a ray gun cartridge when you load that bullet into a 35 Remington configuration and apply a little hotter powder. Yeah, the 9mm shall we say that 115 grain just zips down like a, like there's no tomorrow. It's really cool though, it's an FMJ. So even though it heats up allows in feet per second at short range, that is a mode, so they'll use a .357 jacketed round because it's also mean when you take and push heavy to rain or 100 and it's just plain exposed. In the 70s and early 80s when 35 Remington was reintroduced in greater quantity. The big advantage was especially during the ammunition shortage era was having a lever gun that you could that you can easily reload your model 27, your trooper mark 3, or your made for a good combo carbine situation. But while the ammunition was not interchangeable, the 35 Remington, if you got one, just remember it's not hard finding projectiles. The biggest thing is building up brass to make sure that you got what you need to get the job done. You should be thinking about it, okay? Anyway, we're at the bottom of the hour and all, man, just past the bottom. I was hoping Ed could do some ear candy for us, because we are headed towards, again, the weekend. And for all of you out there, if we can, we'll take a little late bottom of the hour break anyway. That'll be an idea, I think. Maybe. He cut me off guard. If not, I can improvise. Now, I would remind everybody, too, that of course we are trying to reach our end of the month goal. Thank you, I appreciate the donations. Although I didn't get to the... We're gonna go to break, but we'll cover that when we get back here on Liberty Tree Radio. They'd rather go to prison than to eat their country's call. Get out of here, get out of there, let's have an end to war. I'm glad they weren't around to say get out of Valleyport. The Minutemen are in their grave. 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I don�t know if Ed has included the other donations that just came in because we do have some that came in through the mail. I added the $200 you told me about last night. Very good. Again, that does reflect that and we�ve got another $30 I believe to Ed. I�ll confirm that with your mom. As it is, again guys, we're almost to the goal. We're looking at the end of the year bill, $3,000. Of course, we did have some additional expenses, which is one of the reasons that we have this. I do have a couple of computers here that I don't know if Ed might be able to use, especially identical, and I might be shipping those to him. But we can pitch pennies every direction we can, guys. We don't squander the resources that are donated. But we have this one bill. It's 12 months covered all at once. It cuts the bill. bill in half. If we were to pay by the month, it would be nibbling at you twice as hard every month. 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And if you can see it in your heart to pitch in, if you haven't done it before, please take the time to do so because a lot of people have done the lion's share. They've done a fantastic job. And I want to say thank you and I can't say thank you enough. The only thing we do is stay on the air and keep doing what we do. And we put it no matter what, I don't take sick days, everybody knows, I don't get a day off. And of course we do have our friends there and I want to say thanks despite, you know, again we had a little emergency situation with the hardware, with LTR, and you know what, the way this program works. jump in there, take over with Indiana Freedom Talk Radio, and that's how it's supposed to be, guys. This is how the Patriot Movement has always been strong. Not by being big and centralized, not by being massive overweight and spending money hand over fist on goofy stuff. Instead, it's great. Real grassroots operations, the way they're supposed to be, have a real big pulse up, and then it's real big. We avoid that, if at all possible, wherever we can cut back or do things in a less expensive way, we do. that's a promise we've made to everybody it's the way we fought this war and we will continue to fight this war doesn't mean we don't find other tools and bigger and cooler tools to play with we just don't buy into them as one of those oh my god I gotta spend again for everybody out there if you take the time it's Friday you got an idea what you have left after the illegals took all the money out of your pocket they could through the government at gunpoint g.com slapped me in the microphone you know it's been one of those days I actually have been outside watching the weather change and noticing some interesting things progressively that I've not seen in decades which tells me we're back to Michigan, you know, real. But because of that there are things that have definitely be hit with a real. Now that's not a surprise and in fact here it is. It's September 12th and yes, they get snow in the Rockies. It happens. I think for as long as I've ever lived I've remembered September getting it is not unique. It's just getting it is a bugger. if you're the people in the Rockies. It's just one of the things you've got to live with. I don't think you're going to worry about that down in Texas. We've got George there. What do you got, sir? Oh, yeah, we do have a cool front coming through. They say, oh, it's not going to really just wait and see. You know, when you've got snow in Wyoming, and it's like the 40s, and now it's going to be 40s and Amarillo tonight, you know, I think we're going to get a little bit more than what they have. I'll just make sure you've got plastic to cover the plants for frost. You know, we have a sweet potato, you know, ornamentals. And I'll tell you what. using them as a thermometer. If you didn't have a thermometer, using them as a gauge, they're perfect. When it gets cool, or whether we've spent an average summer, gators like that help you to gauge what, I keep the VisiQueen handy on anything that's not as hardy, make a point of covering up tonight. It's not a big deal. Ideally, clear VisiQueen is your best choice because they can still get the sunlight warm up. And then whatever plastic you put over them actually works like a bit of a greenhouse for the plants. And so they'll do better. You know, they'll just be, it's a talking about the purple berry plants this year. The chokecherries, the mulberries, and the grapes are early. They are early by probably about three weeks. Although the mulberries were not so much early, but they were hyperbearing. And with the chokecherries, they were hyped. All the chokecherries are doing in the back 40 and even the line right here. We've got several different trees that were produced, and now they're dropping their leaves. Their leaves are dying off, and they're dropping their leaves. We normally, well until we get fall color, the grapevine stays dark green. It doesn't really jump out at you. But the grapevine and the sumac here in Michigan help to create some really unique color issues when it comes to camouflage. And we're already seeing the change out and the lightening of these colors into the greens that we don't normally see until it is going on. The plants know it's coming. The little fuzzy caterpillar, almost one color, which means one. everybody. Make sure you get your coal weathered, you're squared away and you jump on it before. Now people are starting to look at coal so the prices are not coming down. But watch, fill items. Just now if you get a little coal there down there, just make sure everybody wears a hat and, you know, tears, pears, gloves. Well, Mark, you know, I've never heard somebody sit there and told me that he had better luck, like, in the southern states. What I'm thinking about too is growing turnip greens, mustard greens, and collard greens in the winter. Well, the greens go year-to-year. It's like lettuces. Any of the leaf that vegetables or leaf. You can get them back up and on one example is one or two we could get probably a good three plantings in because you know the short lettuce or leaf. The other thing is they are more robust. You know in the past everybody developed those it's just that they have them because of their productivity and in a dire situation. That's why they're popular and you can live quite well on the greens plus if you have cancer issues. Well the greens listed including the flying greens and regiment for take into light, especially if you're getting older, everybody is always worried about the cancer and to cleanse it. All of these leaf vegetables that actually help to combat cancer. And that's something I've had many conversations, I've met for leading individuals in homeos for cancer. And I repeat this to everybody a thousand times, and it's kind of like talking about government surplus for the state, people that have local government. You can tell a thousand people and maybe one will do something. I think it's fascinating. I was thinking about this because it's like we've had friends, I've had people that have lived here with us that are up there in years. One, Steven, he was from Pennsylvania. He's back home. The thing is that when he was here with us, he was a cancer patient that in 1955 they told him you're going to die in six months period. You can't do anything about it. The cancer is going to kill you. can't operate, there's nothing we can do and if we did it just make you more uncomfortable you're gonna die. Rather than doing the, boy I gotta keep a schedule, the doctor told me I gotta die in six months so I better die in six months. Instead he said so there's nothing you can do for me eh? And they said yep you're done. He said okay I'm gonna go to a homeopath. Oh yeah! I'm serious that's how they always respond. They're gonna be all wheezy about how you're gonna die and they feel really bad. But the moment you say, oh okay, well then you can't do anything for me, I'm going to go over to this guy. Then they get all bent out of shape, which I think is rather fascinating. Well, 1955 they told him he was going to be dead. In 1998 he was still very much with us. What does that tell you? What was his regiment? One of the things guys that he did every morning, he would get up, stretch, move around. He was a walker in his later years, but he would go out and fresh pick, leaf, and then the line This had been part of the regimen that knocked the cancer down. The cancer was one of the same doctors. In fact, he waited until after the homeopaths had helped him with the regimen that he was on because there were other things that he did. When he went back, they of course were sure he'd be dead in six months. Three years later when he went back, they were like, why are you still here? They didn't want to admit to anything having to do with him going to the homeopaths and focusing on getting rid of that cancer. They didn't want to know anything about it. They didn't really let you know. In other words, it was like, why didn't you die on us? You should have been dead by now. That way we wouldn't have to talk to you. I'll tell you something about the industry. Hey, Mark? Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry to interrupt. No, no, it's okay. Don't worry about that. Recently you've been talking about VEPRS. And I've been looking into them and I've been really interested in getting like a 21 or a 20 inch barrel of VEPRA. I found a downside to the normal Vepers is they don't accept the standard AK-MAX. I hear that the Vepr2s and the VeprKs and the Super Vepr's or something do and I just, I for the life of me, I can't find one online. I wonder. Well I know that's what happened. We've been talking about this. They have been concerned. You're just going to have to be patient and watch for somebody who might have a cache of them left. The big one was Cinefire. They had a whole pile of these. They made a deal. And what they did to get them in, remember they had what they called a square, they had no, they were brought in with a rough 90% finished stock. If you find them, remember that there's a couple of young men that got together, they got a plastics company. They're making .308, they're making .062 by .54R and .308, VEPR magazines. In fact, they were originally about, what, six months ago when we brought them up, just the mags, I'll pull my notes out and see if I can find it before the eight o'clock program. But they pulled their notes, they forgive me, they pulled the population and said, we want to build magazines, what should we build? They were just asking people, they are making for the VEPRA. Another thing that you can do if you get the 223 20 or 21 inch model, like the longer barrel model in the VEPRA, it's 223. What I said before, go to AKZines.com. Now it's gonna take you to another site. In fact, I'm gonna do this right now while we're talking and I'll give it to you. If you go to www. these 223AKs in the Bavarian, including Levepper, Canis, that's C-A-N-I-S, Canis. They apparently, either that's the new company name or they have absorbed. What they have is a magazine well insert 3AKs. Here, it's in the plastic as a matter of fact. Again, what's in the rifle a little bit to fit is something that I've promoted and told $7,800. Which do you think I'm gonna, I'm not gonna send. I'm going to modify that insert, but the insert, if you have the 223 and you can use AR-15 mags in your 223AK all day, it's an advantage. All it is, is something that makes sense. What they did is they made a mock-up right into the standard AK magazine lock. Once it's in there, then the AR-15 mags drop right in, you know, quick, the same way you would on the AR. So the cool, that's a solution for the 223. Now the 308 you've got to buy mags. Nobody has done anything like that yet, but they could because the AR mags and the AR-10 and the AR-15 mags are kind of thin wall mags. And the volume of the AK mag and the magazine wall is typically bigger. So the cool thing is you do have some... The only thing is to do this they had to machine the part. It's a CNC job. You can do that. and C machines could do a really fine job working. They actually, the inserts work. They could make a .308 for the Vepers. Now the other option, if you're looking at a .308 AK, trying to find one, the Vepers are really nice. And I mentioned the Vepers being in longer barrels. In fact, I believe they few in stock. They have the 19 and a half inch PAP Hugo rifles. Again, it's a unique magazine. If you're looking for a baby like a poor man's dragon off, this is a solution. And I do like the .308 caliber, the 7.62x54R for the same reason. It's cheap too. That's why I was looking at either by .54R or .39, just for a 5.10 program. But, you know, it's like more bang for your buck. Right. Because the free place is like $0.75 around at the minimum. And these are like $0.75. The advantage of the 7.62x54R is the price on the handle for a bow. The only thing there again is then you're trying to find something that will shoot it that's reasonably priced. The Nagat rifles for a 510 program would still be a good solution. I wouldn't have any problem with the Nagat. I don't plan on going toe to toe. I plan on being a dirty bugger or just beating the snot out of you every way I can. I'm not going to be fair to my enemy. My enemy plans on laughing about me and, you know, killing me and laughing about in the mirror hole. So I better treat him the same way. You know, they state that they, nope, they go. Are they the most accurate H.A. platforms? Almost consistent with what we see with the Dragunov because those were made in a Russian plant. They were using the triple reinforced receive which is something we kept mentioning. These are the reinforced PK Dragunov type receivers that the Vepers had. Before we saw these in the United States, these were government guns that were issued out to the government hunters. See everybody, just like in the US where we had the BLM, back in the day when the Russians were of course fully communist. They were already building the pepper right yeah, I've seen images going back to 1982 in the hands of for instance the game wardens and the bear basically the rifle that they brought in with the thumb hole you know you know is what they were kissing over there and they were it was issued by the comic this communist controlled are they had it in the 762 by 54 are however typically rather than in the dragon off type you know vein with the start of the scope they had a number of type, they had perfected this weapon 30 years ago, easily. The system, and again, logic is why do anything too special? Receivers to get the stronger action, working with the heavy caliber, the Russians learned years ago when they went to the stick receiver, they started out with the machine day K-47 receiver. They worked that in and it worked. They wanted to go to stampings because they know just as the Germans did in World War II stamping. When they first came out with the stamped guns, they went as light as they could And then they learned their lesson and went back to reinforcing certain platforms. That's where the Dragunov is heavier and that's where the RPK is heavier because that's the squad gun. And certainly the regular AK is full auto. Squad guns were consistently heavy full auto weapons. So reinforce them more extensively. Well that's the premise for all these guns. Anyway the PAPs are available in .308. and they have a few of them floating around both with Center Fire, they may have one left, one model left, but what you can see, but classicfirearms.com would be the other option. Classicfirearms.com. And they do have the APN-308 available. I appreciate it, thank you for the question. It is Quartermaster Friday, guys. Stick around, guys, you can keep talking about this, because we've got militia town hall coming up next, and the round table is there all through the hour, so participate, talk about this. A lot of you guys have the PAP rifles out there, tell everybody what you think of them. I know they're good weapons, but we need reinforcing there. God bless the Republic. That's the new order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. But we are on the mark. Well guys, we'll be back in a little bit. Meanwhile, don't touch that dial. More live broadcasting, yes? Take it over. We'll let you down. How many come up? Coming up next. And then at 8 o'clock, became myself. Evening intel report. Motormaster Friday. Bye bye. We are the sons, yes we are the sons, the sons of liberty. In the Christ they're asking for, and it's always been retirement's week. Never give up a struggle, or in spite of the liberty, it's a tall lie.