August 18, 2014
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1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke and Don Betcher discussed military history, aircraft design, and weapons systems, focusing on German engineering during World War II and lessons applicable to modern preparedness. The show covered topics including the ME-262 fighter jet, Albert Speer's production strategies, the Sten gun design philosophy, and improvised weapons systems using simple materials and existing components. They explored how low-cost, simple designs like the Sten gun and modernized variants could be more practical than expensive military systems, and discussed repurposing civilian vehicles like trash trucks and dump trucks for defensive applications using sandbags and laminate armor principles.
- world war ii
- german engineering
- albert speer
- sten gun
- me-262
- weapons design
- improvised weapons
- armor systems
- sandbag armor
- trash truck modification
- dump truck
- laminate armor
- production simplification
- preparedness
- military history
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You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. According to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? Switch over Okay bumper music. We're not yet. Oh, wow. We didn't hear any of it in Okay, good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Cornke. And I'm Don Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and north. Well ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com indiana freedom talk radio dot com run a minute at micro station cb base stations and ultra net technologies east and west of the mississippi along with alaska were the homework ever from the top of me do the bottom of florida from the bottom of florida kosya the gulf of mexico headed louisiana mississippi texas oklahoma big jerry debrasko A whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 3rd, 5th, the Pitt and our friends in the recall state of Colorado, waiting to go to the left coast with the great state of Jefferson and many other friends out there, returning back to the east, weep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and land of the Smokey slash the Blue Ridge, where the restaurant crew's Grandma teams, OK teams, and the Maville Grandma Consortium bring us the Golden Spike. Well, Dom, what's liking your neck of the woods? What's jumping off the wall there date-wise? And what's happening in the Great White North? Although steamy, muggy North, maybe, with a little cool air. Go ahead. Well, it is the 18th day of August, the year of our Lord 2014. And you're right, it's getting a little bit muggy here. The dew point's pretty tall compared to the temperature. And, well, it's not real hot, but it can still not be real hot and be muggy. And they promise more of it in the next few days. you know, get ready for it. What can you do at any rate? It is the 18th day of 2014. The leader comes up and addresses the nation and talks about this and that and the other thing and just about how that isn't... We gotta start before you start that we gotta do this right. What's a buzz tell me what's happening? What's a buzz tell me what's happening? What's a buzz tell me what's happening? I just wanna know what's the buzz tell me what anybody doesn't recognize Jesus Christ Superstar come on guys. What did what did the God of the chocolate people say? Oh, gee whiz Mark. Yeah I know, for me it's like sitting in class with Charlie Brown. Wah wah, wah wah. Yeah I know what you're saying. You're looking sideways. We've got a cat that's got a bad eye. We've been having a hell of a time with him, a doctor. When I do the program he sits on my shoulder and you're all three hours, right? But he's got a fuzziness and when I had a problem with that we had the real bad ear infections in the air here. When he looks at you he turns his head sideways so he can line up the clear part of his eye. No matter what he does, when he really wants to focus, he like turns completely perpendicular to the ground. Well, that's how I feel when I look at a bummer. It's like, I don't even want to listen to this. It's like, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, w Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. He's put the pauses in the right places and it sounds exactly like him. Yeah. You got to have a better bass. He's got that FM bass. That's the mesmerized thing. There's nothing about that. If you've got that really cool deep FM voice and you bring up the mixed minus, right, you know guys? And you bring up the deep voice. And you keep droning along. And it's actually a cycle. You run into the same thing. Several people were listening to something in the other room that I was playing here the other day. And there's this psycho-babble, like, mystical music in the background. Guys, we've seen this over and over again. It's hypno music. And that's what these characters are. It's like, no music. You want to go, oh god, just shut this BS off now please and save me and I don't want to have to. I don't want you to shoot me at the end of this to put me out of my misery so let's just turn our brains off to the idiot. Which is what, I'm going to be honest, I did it with, with, uh, Wergate Bush the same way. I don't look at it. Either one of them is any different. The only thing I could say is, well, in theory he did learn how to fly a jet. That's what they tell us, yeah. They tell us. We're not sure because half the time he didn't really show up. You mean he took the training? He got the training. Somebody stood in for him. But to look at anything like the guy's name, George Bush, I remember in the cockpit, but that's okay. It's not a problem. Hey, long as he can kind of get behind the stick and go, what's this? How do I just... Would that George Bush, like, squinty, like, half days, express? He sure didn't wind up on that aircraft here, did he? No, no, no, but he wasn't in the Air Force. He wasn't a naval aviator though. You got to remember that. He was flying Delta Darts. Here's how you fly a Delta Dart, okay? Pick one of those. The name should have told you something. Pick a dart out of your dart collection. Pick where you think the bomber is that's coming at you. Throw the dart. Because it was an interceptor, those were interceptor squadrons. They had enough fuel to get to what, they were kind of like man controlled air breathing missiles. They had just enough fuel to get to where the objective was, fire it up with whatever they had, and then you better find a place to land right now because you have no fuel. The F-104, that's one of my favorite, I don't know, I just like the lines on the plane. and the 105s really look cool to me. And the Voodoo is another one. Everybody likes the F4. I love the lines on the Voodoo. It's got that 1973 javelin look to it. You know what I mean? However, in all three classes, all three of those planes, they were interceptors. I know guys who were Voodoo pilots here, one of them is dead and gone now for quite a few years, but he went out of World War II and got into Korea and then he got into Voodoo during the Cold War. They would launch from right here in Michigan when they were on intercept with a due line. They thought they had a bomber coming in. Basically, when they got over the middle of Canada, he said, that's where my fuel was at, almost E. and I would scan the skies and then immediately I had to put down the closest air base because it was balls to the walls. It was literally a full throttle up off the ground and towards the target. Man, what a ride. And you better find someplace to hit the ground fast because you will hit the ground otherwise. There ain't a whole lot of glide. Yes, your dart works like that. Yeah, the dart works down in the ground the same way and burrows in really good. That was junior. What a junior flight. Delta Darts, that's my point. During World War II, now Dad flew torpedo bombers. And the problem there is, typically the pilots died in those first. Usually the pilots would die in a torpedo bomber crash because the TBMs, the bombardier was stuck inside the fuselage. And the rear gunner was in that ball gunner, that bendix turret. Yeah, and so the pilot would hold on to the controls and stay with the stick right till the crash if he had to to try and let the crew get out. Well, here's the thing about George Bush Senior's record. I'm out of here. Twice he got out of the plane, but none of his crew came home. Right. Well, if you look at the history of the TBMs, it's a kind of a sad history because many cases the crew would go down together. Yeah. Because the pilot wouldn't abandon his men. He wouldn't leave until he wouldn't see his parachute until everybody else's parachute was behind him. By then, in many cases, it was too late for the pilot, so he'd go in with the TBM. But with George Bush, he got shot down twice and survived both of them. None of his crewmen were there to talk about it. He got up in the third one, but I don't know who flew with him. If you know it well, you know George is a real good pilot He gets his art shot off and if he does I'd be heading for the window as quick as I could I wouldn't wait for him to tell you as soon as you see that canopy go jump. Yeah George George you see a parachute go by somebody else get shot down now the planes in a flat spin in your glued to the wall Yeah, you're stuck to yeah, you're in a roller coaster ride to you know, the final, you know final connector on to splat. Yeah But no, Junior, George, you know, where gave Bush the second, he flew darts, Delta darts and Delta. Okay. And those were those really cool Delta wing, you know, like the Delta. Triangle airplane. Right, right, four engines. Yeah, well, no, just twin engine. right into the side. So you're thinking the Valkyrie or the B, see about that time the medium bomber was the B-58 Hustler and that was a Delta, you're right. Yeah, that was a Hustler, yeah, that's awesome airplane too. And then there was the next one would have been the Valkyrie, which would have been the Heavy Heavy, and then we built two and then they killed the program. Yeah, the Valkyrie was awesome. Yeah, it's just one of those things where you, it's like I know guys that were crewmen on the B-36s, biggest plane we ever flew, period. They just said it was monster flight. They said everybody was looking forward to the idea of the Valkyrie coming into service, but they dropped the program because it would just be a brag up. It became a loose point when the Russians shot down the U-2. That's why they were saying that. When you look at a delta wing, it's altitude. That's what you're looking at. You're looking at speed and altitude. Well, you can only go so fast. The B-70 was quite an impressive airplane. No compression lift at high speed. It was just tremendous. The little canards and the nose. The thing is that if you remember, the American supersonic intercontinental plane that we built, remember that? They actually got to the point where they built a mock-up. The SST. But oh yeah, kill the American SST because it was evil and bad. Oh, but the British kept making theirs Yeah, your rice ours the ours was there first and it was all based upon the value in other words here We have the Valkyrie which they perfected all the supersonic technology for high-speed intercontinental flight Then they turned around and told them oh by the way we can't have the Valkyrie because that would be only imbalance in power and it's evil and bad and you know not only that but might be it you know just a you know shooting gallery target and But, then we came up with the SST and the Brits had their version of the SST which did go into service. And of course, one of its last flights was a Blaze of Glory thing too on the runway, remember. Right out of Paris. Yeah, and again, originally the idea was that we were going to have an entire integrated program with the SST. And somebody got, and in fact for years they were still displaying the wood mock-up that was built of the SST. Remember there was a complete scale model built. You score around the country and it's like the America, the space age that never was. Yeah. Because that was the last of the big space age gas. Why everybody stopped doing what they were doing because it's like, okay, I build up this fantastic project. I developed this plane. We get it all ready for production and then you all piss in our face. That was intentional. That was to help destroy the upper-tech systems that were out there that were integrated with all the people we'd educated far beyond the means of the rest of the planet. In order for them to cut the legs off America, they had to kill these programs. Somewhere around 83 or 84. Back in the last century, British Airways flew two or three SSTs into Metro Airport. I saw two of them in the air at one time. That was a sight, you guys, and not to mention a sound. If you remember the book of knowledge and everything, that was going to be the norm, which it could have been had everybody kind of stayed focused. But we got the public pool system to dumb everybody down the world's gonna end we're all gonna freeze to death I was in college in 1973 all forgive me 75 and I Remember when they told us we'd all freeze between the buildings if we didn't have two ice picks in each hand because of global freezing And we're all gonna die if we don't stop all this technology that America has well everybody else built theirs Then well the world will come to an end You know what I mean? Yeah, you know what I mean? This means they haven't built a supersonic private jet yet. I mean, they have. No, they have. The LIR can do supersonic. The LIRs, all the LIRs in the Cessna 600s, if you might recall, back years ago, they were trying to find a cheap solution like we did an Op 4 on the ground. Op 4 in the air to simulate the MIGs and also the Sukhoi's. What they were using were LIR, the first and second model LIRs, and they were using the Cessna 600s for fighter aircraft aggressors because their performance range was comparable to the Russian MiGs. Yeah, that's citation. Yeah, yeah. That citation was the... Well, I'm talking about like a small SST. I mean like a private... Oh, as far as like... Well, yeah, but no, as far as like the high altitude, you know, a super supersonic, because that's really what these were. Those were super supersonic transports. They could have... I mean, look at it this way, the BD-20. I talked about this a few years ago. Of course, it's a chunk of change. You know, you can build a supersonic fighter now at home. Check out the information on the BD-20. Did they call that the Tomahawk? Did they call that the Tomahawk? Oh, I don't know what the name is they gave it finally, but it's the BD-20. Remember the BD-10? We've got a pile of BD-10s. I've actually, I just got a little hint from somebody while we were working on that porch yesterday. We think we found another BD-10 sitting there with three engines. We'll probably get it for free. The BD-10 is a little core fighters. Oh yeah! The same guy who built the BD-10 designed the BD-20. But the BD-20 has fiber molded the way the body and hull is built. It's an integrated system, kind of like a poor man's version of the infusion molding they made the F-16 out of. And the Tomahawk and all the other cruise missiles out of. And the F-18. But they made it so you could do it at home. Basically, what you do is you take a router and cut out the spots where all the modules need to be for electronics and avionics. Then you put your cover plates in, which they already built for you. You've got yourself a twin-engine supersonic pocket fighter. Basically, it looks like the F-5s or whatever. It's a neat looking little dart. It's a kick butt little plane. Or like a poor man's hornet. There you go. It looks more like a poor man's hornet. F-18 hornet is what it looks like. And again, that's a home built that can do Mach 1. Now the BD-10s, they try to do Mach 1. The key word there is the tried part. You just don't want to be the research pilot when this happens. You're going along in an airplane and then all of a sudden you're going along and there's a whole bunch of parts that used to be in an airplane. Yeah, wreckage in the air and that's what happened. They took it up to just at Mach and the plane literally disintegrated in the air. It broke the sound barrier for probably a nano moment. And the guy who did that, what he did is they took a little more powerful conventional GE engines, modified them to be used on the BD frame, and got them to work. And that's all she wrote. So, testability is really a problem. Yeah, it's kind of like those early German test pilots and all those really cool designs everybody talks about how they won the war with. Well, first you've got to survive to fly them. You know and some did and some not so much Yeah, my neck is back there, but my body's up here. Yeah, that begs the question what happened to America's top? Scoring ace on the same day that the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. What were they flying? Yeah, yeah, you know that that's a story to itself to the number of aircraft we captured we we fool all that you know Here's something most people know I've printed a lot of books I remember that's one of the jobs that I've had working in printing and I've never seen the story in this except in one couple of texts our first jet fighter pilots were ME 262 pilots guys While we had the P-52 fighter jet, which really couldn't perform anywhere near where the ME-262 did, everything they captured they collected and basically brought back to it. That was Bell, wasn't it? Yeah, to western Germany and to France. What they did, they weren't authorized to do it, but they took their pilot's wings, the lapel wings and their pilot's wings, They had the jewelers snip off the props and they were an entire unit under themselves developing They we developed our first jet fighter pilot experiences on a massive scale using the me 262 And all the other stuff line, right? Yeah, all the we captured everything to maintain it plus we had the Germans and slaves to you know The German workers to you know that built it and maintained it and some of the engineers the Germans got we got 80% of the hardware and probably around 40% the argument is 30 to 40% of the people the jury the Communists in their occupation coming in from the east Got most of the manpower, but not as much of the hardware So we got the physical hands-on plants because of where they were buried and put underground the Russians got you know people who were caught flat-footed because they were in the wrong place at the right time being Hitler had some pretty cool stuff. You never got up in the air, but you got some damn good Well, this gets back to something that comes full circle to something else. We've gone from the President to talking about the Luftwaffe. Well, Luftwaffe, President, what's the matter? I mean, Mr. President. Remember, Dr. Strangelove. I mean, Mr. President. Strangelove. This is Sombre, German. Yeah, yeah, he was one of those guys we picked up at the end of the war. He Americanized his name, brought him here on the number. Yeah, I think Bush is a German name anyway. Dr. Strangelove. Well, the thing about it is that full circle, this is something that we now need to be thinking about because we're going into a wartime footing here on American soil. Guys, don't think trying to mimic everything and making, you know, copying what somebody else has done if it's grossly over complicated, okay? Albert Speer was probably the most dangerous person purely by accident. In fact, we created the reason the war was extended. Does everybody understand that? The first two armaments ministers that basically were in charge of Luftwaffe but also all general production. In other words, all production allocation. We're both killed one after another because of our superiority of the air, right? But because of that, the one who was killed before Speer came into power actually had really diversified a lot of production into really off-the-wall directions that purely because somebody had some money and wanted to make money off of the right. Well, what Speer came in and did was qualified everything. He said, kiss, keep it simple, stupid. So all of a sudden, all production went into very narrow and focused mass production. Had Speer done this two years earlier, World War II, just like with the thing with Japan, with the Kamikazes, this is where right person, right place, right time would have changed the war. we might have ended up dropping a bomb on germany to yeah we would have been fighting if we'd been gotten the bomb dot i mean there are other issues would have been applied there if they wouldn't here's another thing it's a big lie the germans never intended to invade your are the united states and the only reason that they might have considered attacking the u.s. is because we were bombing the snot out of them by the end of the war This is something I have watched where the kosher mafia getting charged at the National Archives. Guys, forever there's not a single shred of paperwork anywhere that claims that Germany wanted to attack the United States. Period. That's proven. And that's an historian's, that's one of those things where I'm waiting for them to slide, you know, because what they'll do is they'll like the diary van Frank, which is a total lie, but it's in the National Archives. They know what's written on the wrong paper on the wrong pen. It's all totally wrong. Couldn't have been made with the pen it was written with, but the total lie, because it's with the kosher mafia, it's a holy hoax, it's okay. Well, think about this. Think about the way all the propaganda is that you've seen now in your lifetime. Well, you know the Germans were really stupid because they had only short-range weapon systems. Well, wait a minute. In other words, they had weapon systems designed for a European war and had no interest in expanding beyond the continent. Right? In other words, they didn't have intercontinental bombers. They didn't have anything that was interested in going towards us because originally they had intentions of fighting us. What was their number one threat in Europe? Communist Russia. So the stupid comments that are made, everybody eats this garbage up, well they were really big bummies because they didn't build any big big stuff. No, they built weapons that match their theater of operations and their primary strategic and tactical concerns. Hey, can you say Messerschmitt 263 or I think? Can you say Curie? F.W. Curie? Exactly. Can you say, what was the name? Oh, Binder and Voss or Binder and Voss? The six engine flying boat almost a rival to the Spruce Goose. Yes, in fact both the Germans and the Japanese built planes as big as the Spruce Goose. Yeah, they built them but they didn't build them in quantity because they had no need for it. They had no application. Right. Well, the Japanese did but the Germans didn't. That was the whole point. In fact, that's one of the things if you consider that if you look at that operation, In the initial stages of the war, had Albert Speer been taken from being the ministries architect to being the ministries armaments minister, two things would have happened because they weren't worried about us. We weren't on the continent. The communists had already bragged in 1939, 1933, that they were going to water their horses in the Rhine River. The same communists that had killed 20-30 million Ukrainians and Georgians because they were Christian, because the Jewish mob was in charge of communist Russia. So take us, we weren't important. Here's the other thing that's taken into consideration. Everybody knew the size of our army. And everybody knew, in fact, of all the countries that appreciated our production, it was Germany. And anybody in Europe, because they understood industrial production. They were not as isolated nor as eccentric with regard to their national phobias the way Japan was. So Germany understood mass production. They were an industrial society on a massive scale with deep industrial roots. England was the same way. France was the same way. Even Sweden or Denmark were the same way. Norway, big industrial, iron producer, just like Michigan. In fact, the iron ore history of Norway is much like the iron ore history of Michigan and the upper and lower peninsula. strangely enough, in terms of production, parallel production, timeline and experience and the development of shipping to get the iron to where it needed to go. Nobody talks about that. But here's the thing. The SPIR focused on very narrow, intelligent process. In other words, we need a lot of it. We're being outgunned because of mass. We need to be looking at precision but reasonable production. We need to simplify production and minimize production to certain models only. retooling and fading out progressively older equipment but upgrading it. Example is the old Panzer III's progressively received the armament that originally was carried on the Panzer IV's and the medium tanks. Even though the Panzer III was originally medium, it became basically a light tank towards the end of the war. Well, they put heavier firepower on it. Speer did that. He shifted the stuff sideways. This way the ordinance that was already built wasn't wasted. They put more firepower into the field, but the newer, bigger, longer, heavier guns that were simpler but accurate which were again which everybody else copied. You got to remember that we copied or tried to duplicate what the Germans were doing and the Russians did the same thing and we were always both sides one step behind the Germans. So for all that, we were really stupid! Really? Everybody tried to copy everything that they did and tried to catch up. Oh hey, that 88mm gun is a legend unto today. Yep, and still just as effective and as a potential tank killer today as it was then because modern munitions would have brought it into the 21st century easily. Or anti-aircraft. The Russian counter was the 85mm, the US counter to that was the 90mm. Both guns Though one was bigger, in theory two millimeters bigger, the 88 in the 90s, the 90 was slightly inferior. The only thing that matched the 88 was the naval three-inch guns. And that's why Knob Creek exists. I've talked about this many times. Knob Creek, where the machine gun shoot is, was a naval facility on the north end of Fort Knox, Kentucky, the Armor Institute. And what they did in order to get any accuracy comparable to what the Germans were doing with the 88, guess what we did? We turned to the naval guns, the 3-inch guns, and we started mounting 3-inch guns on our tanks. In fact, they went on our tank destroyers. And that's the only gun that equaled the 88 through the war. The 90's that came up were trying to match, but for whatever reason, if you'll story the right math, right place, rather than duplicating. The one thing that Speer wanted to do, and would have been kind of intelligent, is he wanted to virtually duplicate certain Russian weapons systems so they would be feeding off the Russians every step of the way. And in reality, other than this national pride thing, that would have been intelligent. Now, the reason I bring this up is simplification and production, guys. Think about this. The Sten gun. And remember that the Sten gun, a British invention out of desperation, was produced for a whopping total of $2.75 per gun at its peak production in the beginning of the war. Huh? Yeah, a submachine gun with both semi-automatic, in other words, a head select fire, guys. Very crude and rude select fire. A minimal number of working parts. Little or no threading. That's precision tooling that you can't afford and what little you have you don't want to wear out. Because you have other things to build. Like you're trying to build the lift off on one side. And you're trying to build up that British Naval and Air Corps on the other I say. All your precision tools go over there. Now that Sten gun today could be built for about the same price. Now let me ask you something. If we believe, here's what's bizarre, this is what's really weird. What's the average ranger trying to tell all of us troops we can't go past? 120 yards, right? Yeah. You can't follow anything past 200, well then why do I need an assault rifle? Pistol ammunition is a whole hell of a lot cheaper if you look at mass and volume. I want you to take a look at something other than the bullet. How many 9mm can you stack up against a .223 rifle cartridge? If your argument is increasing fire power and reducing combat weight, doesn't a submachine gun make more sense at the intermediate and short ranges? Yeah. And I can carry more fire power? But what if I were to take a combination of things? If I take the idea of greater range, because I'm going to increase the barrel length a little bit, but I go crude and rude like the Sten gun, Except that I modernize it. You know, an example, and this is why I want to plant a seed with you guys, look at the Sten gun, because everybody goes, well, we're going to make... people are doing it. I know that we can't lie about it, let's be honest. People by millions have bought God knows how many Sten gun kits. And somehow they miraculously disappear and none of them show up at the gun shows, but they go somewhere. Okay, now the Sten gun is so crude and rude and simple to make, you could take fence post and make the receiver out of it. Now, would it last as long as maybe the thick wall tubing that was used for the original? Probably not. Not so much, but you know what? They grossly underestimated how long the Sten gun could survive because originally they figured they'd only have a six-month lifespan in the battlefield. That's better than a butter knife. Forty years later they were mostly still in service. So what does that tell you? So in other words, if I did have it, let's say that I was going into the field right now, let's say right now I needed to make war production for America. Why am I going to go with all these hyper expensive super stupid price systems when if I'm smart I can come up with now here's where the variable geometry needs to be I've got to be able to change out the barrel from one caliber to the next and I need to be able to use different magazines depending on what magazine is available, but let me give you a hint I've mentioned this before Imagine the stem gun which is that side feeding submachine gun design and Imagine if instead of me going with a submachine gun design magazine, I go with a pistol magazine. The most common staggered pistol magazine available. Used to be Smith and Wesson Model 59's. Later on Beretta Model 92's. Today, Glocks, Plastic, Mass Production, Glocks. And by the way, I can get Glock stick mags down that are like 33 rounds, can't I? Cool. Well the Sten gun carried 32. So, now wait a minute, that means my magazine well, the only thing that's going to change is this, guys. My magazine well is going to be tapered so that the feed coming out of that mag matches that bolt as it slides inside that steel tube. That's the only significant change in design that takes place. And here's something really crude and rude. What if I were to take, or for instance, let me give you a for instance here, I can buy DeWatt In other words, deactivated lower receivers for pistols like frames, and they cut just the front bar off, but the whole trigger group and the magazine well is left intact. Now if I mill the base of that where the upper part of that frame is so that it'll kind of scud right into the side of my steel tube, I've already got a magazine release on that old frame. trigger mechanism there's the trigger i'd like to know the trigger mechanism but i'd be kind of cool if i could then i'd be going towards a sterling design cuz you know the triggers right there together which would be a good idea don't think you but it was said i just need that magazine well i'd i'd there's one cool thing about this the stand-gun mago is he got a gripping the stand-gun magazine you're not supposed to do that You're not supposed to hold the mag and hold the pistol grip. It doesn't even have a pistol grip. It's really the back end of a big chunk of steel. It's part of a tubular piece of stock. You might hinder the feed, old chap. Yeah, because when you rattle around with that, you're loosening up that magazine, that latch that's there, which is made out of very good steel guys. However, if I take that pistol that's been demilitarized that has a staggered magazine, like there's a number of different ones that are out there from e-sharkoink.com. I can arc that upper part of that frame. This is all throwaway, guys. It doesn't even require any paperwork. I can take this basic stand design, keep it pretty much the way it is, and I can make it in .40 caliber or 9mm or .45 ACP. I can get barrels from gunpartscorp.com. Go take a look at what they've got for like 16 inch in the white barrels right now from how many different companies? Plenty. Yeah. Now what I can do is make a modernized stent design and my prototype can all be worked out using all this junk. The price of the tube would be about $1.10 for the, you know, what is it, the, I think, 14 inches of tube that I need. My back plate, I'll build it exactly the same way. I could even use stent gun parts initially to do the prototyping. And so just take a look at the stand to understand what's going on. The mainspring doesn't change, the bolt doesn't change. And by the way, the bolts were made in steel, they were made in bronze, and when they were desperate, they were even made in brass. Keep it oiled. Keep it oiled, but it works. And here's the thing, not only did they work, but they passed these on to other countries and sold them for like $2.80 to $11 a piece, depending on what year it was. And they used them in their armies and kept shooting them and then sold them again. Now that magazine well means that I can take those Glock or I could take whatever that mag is for that pistol I've got That I've turned into the magazine well, and I've got a very efficient quick release precision made magazine channel Now I just have to buy lots of mags and whatever the caliber is by lots of ammo guys No mark you're almost describing the kel-tech folding carbine yep Which is where they got a lot of their ideas from except that we were not talking five six hundred dollars though We're talking, if your actual production costs, tubular frame, in fact, this is true also. See, Speer did this. He started to look at, we've got to come up with weapons that are less expensive. Now, he still built them the German industrial spec, but they really didn't need to. What eventually everybody found out is you could thin the wall out on like these assault rifles. Look what they're doing with the AK. We went from a machine receiver to a beer can receiver. Okay, on the AKM, we went to a stamp receiver which everybody originally thought was inferior and unacceptable. But everybody waited long enough and you can build two or three of the AKMs for the price of one machined AK because it's the receiver that costs the money. Once you do that, all your other parts are standard. But we're talking less sophisticated, either the Mauser work, or, you know, the, let's see, what was the other one, Irma. They both came up with volt-screddier rifles that used, they were all pinned together. They were one-way weapons. Aberdeen took both of those factories. They were done in beer can factories. These guns were built in beer can factories. They brought the production lines back to Aberdeen Proving Ground, put the production lines up, and they actually built so many of the guns. They tested the guns after the war and found that they worked so stinking well, they made, they shut everything down, boxed everything up and made them disappear. Why? Because anybody could make them and they were in 8mm curts. They used a standard 8mm slap-in mag like the M16 mag which is where we got the idea for the M16 mag. It came from the MP44. The buffer system for the AR-15 is the MP44s, but guys, the MP44 didn't even have a buffer tube. You know what they had? They bored a hole in the wooden stock, pinned the stock with a releasable pin to the back of the receiver, and the whole thing compressed into nothing more than a bored out wooden board. Think about that and not only that but it was deadly and killed people dead dead dead and worked over and over and over again Without a buffer tube don't oil that would too much. Yeah, don't yeah, exactly. Yeah, you know after a while But here's the thing. They're still pulling MP for this MP 44 is in service right now in Syria that were made either during World War II or after World War II and they're right now being used because those were gifts from East Germany that went to the Arab Republics and they're still being used because I've seen pictures of guys carrying them right now. If you go to YouTube or if you go into Google and you start searching combat footage from Syria just imagery and you ignore all the AKs and ARs, start paying attention when everybody else is carrying guys. So here's the thing, a tubular type STG45, which they made by the end of the war, Germany was ready to produce this, tubular stock receiver, stamped or cast plastic trigger group. Hey, let me give you a little hint. Look at the PTR-91s. The PTR-91 is using a Portuguese plastic trigger group, a Zytel nylon or ballistic nylon trigger group right now. originally perfected by HK and used in the Portuguese assault rifles that were full auto. Go ahead. Cool. So think about it. In other words, whenever you look at a part, you have to look at three ways of production, either steel machining, stampings, and well actually four because we can count casting in two methods. Casting with plastic, but let's not forget casting in pot metal or aluminum. The cintered metal. Yes, those lesser metals will hold up just as well. In fact, you could use brass if you don't worry about weight. If you had brass, it's like the Civil War. Remember the Civil War, we made steel colts? What did the Confederacy make? They made brass colts. Oh, yeah. Why? Because brass could be worked and they didn't have the foundries in the South. So what did they do? They took advantage of small production facilities. Now, if you start out thinking this way, and you don't get pulled into the, we gotta have the latest widget, it's gotta be made by Schmidlap widget, and if it isn't the most expensive, you just can't kill the enemy with it. Really? Well, he looks dead. What'd you shoot him with? Well, I had this 10 gun, and I just pulled it out, and I pointed at him, and I just hit him with about 10 rounds of 9mm. Is that good enough? I think it killed him, do you think? Well, I don't know. It's not the latest weapon and it's not the most... See, that's why when they were testing these guns at Aberdeen, they made them disappear. The next step after World War II in research is where Stoner comes into play and the pause. Now, when I say pause, I noticed everybody's been pulling up a different gun. The pause was made from simple steel square stock. The idea was, World War 3 takes place. America is one breath away from going to the Stone Age. How can we make replacement rifles? The M16 requires way too much technology. The M14 requires way too much good steel we can't make. What can we make a simple assault rifle slash battle rifle out of? The original PAWS program was designed to take existing parts and integrate them into an AR-15 type rifle as far as the magazine. The magazine was M16, the trigger group was from an M60, everything else was pot metal off the shelf, the barrels were from the existing arsenals. And they built a weapon that cost no more than $27 to build that could shoot better than the M16. Guess what that program did? Goodbye! That's why none of you can find anything on the pause. Now the next step was, the only thing that was interesting is the pause also experimented with Fluschett dart. Fluschett dart was an idea that, well if I can't hit you, rather than, you know, again the M16 will hit you with three rounds rather than one and it'll be like hitting you with a 30 caliber round. Well think about 45, well forgive me, 35 or 40 grain darts, Fluschett darts like you have in a beehive round. only individually projected by a case that was half the size of a .223 rifle round. And what it did is it turned your flesh into cotton candy. It was designed to go full auto, large capacity magazines. If the Uyghur hit with it, they actually show, I don't have the footage even available anymore, but I saw this at General Staff War College of Fort Knox, Kentucky. They showed the Flechette rifle in the pause design. Actually, it was the post-pause. It was one of the others made by Stoner. And literally with a 25-round burst, it took a ham and turned it into five times its volume. Period. In other words, just fluff. It looked like cotton candy. It took a chunk of ham. It was like probably what, a 10-12 pound, 20 pound ham? I don't know. But it just turned it into whatever the size it started out as, it literally was just, it didn't explode and disintegrate in all directions, it literally just like it, like you said, pureed it. But it fluffed it up like cotton candy. A lot more air in it. Yeah, and the idea behind this was that, you know, they could carry, again, the argument, lots more ammunition, it was much more devastating, did not have armor penetration. That's the only problem with this, is that now you're going the other direction, you're going lightweight, When it came to organics, it just chewed up like a meat grinder. But when it came to hard targets, they had to perfect heavier darts and they still had to match the ballistics because they had to match the sighting system. This is all stuff that was done. All this has already been done, guys, 50 years ago. We're in the post-Space Age. This is 2014 Failure America. In the pre-World War II to the Space Age era, we researched all this garbage. And of course, most of it was made to disappear, and then you have to rewrite a history so that there's all of these monolithic images because they don't want you to think and they don't want you to ask questions. It's like when you watch movies. They have the ability to do it, but I believe they don't want you to do it because they don't want you to think outside the box that there were other ideas. Hey, Mark, I saw a video. It was somewhere on the back east, I'm talking about somewhere in the Middle East, the US had some kind of a gun that, I don't know if you saw that Itchup thing, electronic pulse. I mean this guy, he pulled the trigger and some, and about 100 yards away, he decapitated a building. And you see, all it was was a flashlight. I mean, have you seen that video on YouTube? No, but again, it's not the argument that you can't do. It's nothing you can't do it. The problem is they don't show you that you've got the, it's like the hydraulic exoskeletons. We're going to have this next year, maybe 10 years, 20 years from now, 25 years now. I thought you said this year. It really worked back. I know, I mean, the thick part of life, but down range and all of a sudden it. Yeah, I'm not sure what the hell it was. It was just an electromagnetic gun. I mean, uh... Well, there's a number of different ways that they could be doing it. The problem is, is, can you do that again? It's kind of like a muzzle-loading cannon. It's really impressive. We can make cannons that were actually had a three-foot bore. The Russians did all the time. They love big guns and big things like that. Have you ever noticed that? But... It was real small. It was... The argument is that it was, but it's propaganda. Most of it is, it's the idea, it's not that you can't make this happen, but how many times can you make it happen? Is it a laboratory as opposed to field application? What they don't show you is the cables running to the power supply the size of the Hoover dam. You can't lock that in. You can't lock that in. You can't lock that in. You can't lock that in. You can't lock that in. You can't lock that in. You can't lock that in. You can't lock that in. You can't lock that in. You can't lock that in. 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Not to mention I got one of them suits on. I'm not going to run in here. Yeah, I'll stay right next to him. You see they don't talk about it. And again, step one is We gotta get from the laboratory to the field, but when we do get to the field, these are really neat ideas. But what do you do? I don't shoot the man, I'd start shooting his junk. And I'm not using a pop gun fart toy, I'm using a .308 battle rifle or a Garand with AP or I'm using something that's big, and I'm gonna make sure everybody else hears him screaming while he's drowning. Or while he's dying because a supercharged, superheated hydraulic flute is spraying all over him. Have you ever thought about that one? It's bad now. I'm getting shot on the battlefield. Oh yeah. OHHH! IT BURNS! IT BURNS! Wow, it's like sticking your head under the car and sawing on an hydraulic line on your... Oh, that's right, it would be, wouldn't it? Mark. Go ahead George, what do you got? You know the thing is, I get sick of terrorists that say, IBM has now a new computer chip the size of a post-it stamp that can think like a human brain. Then you got these driverless cars and these robots that replaced the American marker. Mark, I see sabotage happening if this happens. You don't even have to. Just natural, just piss poor mechanics and failure because here's the problem. Think about all the things guys that we have seen fail for lack of maintenance. Now, you remember Scotty had a little comedy made in the one Star Trek movie? Aye, Captain. The more complicated you make the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. As an example, that B2 that fell out of the sky there in Guam just for a little bit of moisture in the air. Think about it. So here we are, when I see all this it's like, and who's building this? Oh, the Chinese are. And what kind of quality control? Oh, I don't know. In between those first two parts there's some fingernail clippings and there's part of the guy's head where his head got caught on the side of the machine and they had to keep production up. Would you put your life, I mean I'm serious about this, because this is nothing like, and it doesn't mean America didn't have these problems in manufacturing, but we had a quality and standard level plus, there were a whole bunch of things that were factors that were tied into our standards in production, which everybody tried to copy and we threw out the window, being the idiots that got into management that had no business being there. Think about it. Would you really be that worried about most of what you're going to see or what they claim? I've got a pilot, I'm going to pop the mechanics behind me and I'm still waiting for the 35-foot double wheeled spiral tank with the rockets that fire out. Oh, wait a minute. I saw that in Star Wars in a movie. They did it with CG. But we have yet to move a tank. Every armored vehicle we've had has been able to do 50 miles an hour for the last 50 years. Does everybody understand that? I got it. We got Bren gun carriers that with track Bren gun carriers, Ford Motor Company, Canadian American or British made, that vehicle will do 55 miles per hour. God help you if you have to brake, but it will do 50 miles an hour. 45 is pretty close and you can nudge it up to 50. We've done it, okay? But you don't want to do it for very long because when you throw the track, it's really embarrassing when that 5 ton armored vehicle starts to flip like a bottle cap. Not good. See there's all this stuff they don't talk about the thing is you also don't go into battle at 50 miles an hour Why? Well when you leave your buddies behind find out you're that dinosaur out in the middle of the enemy piece of real estate and a bullet magnet shoot it Yeah, you know the ball the babies come up and start stabbing the elephant in the belly. You know it's like so embarrassing when that happens And if you watch the propaganda has been like this for decades They always show you the Stewart tank flying through there. Go back and think about the black and white footage you can go to watch right now. They show a Stewart tank driving at full speed and going off this five foot ledge and hitting the ground. Now what they don't tell you is when they were done with that. They spent 10 days unwrenching everything and trying to make it work again. The driver spent three days in the hospital from a compressed disk. Yeah, exactly. But it looked great because after all, didn't you know our tanks can fly? That's World War II, guys. And granted, they always show you like that Abrams shot where the Abrams is sailing along at 50 miles an hour and the terrain is rolling but that gun stays right on the target and boy, she's bouncing and slamming those tracks and those bogey wheels right into that. Oh, wait a minute, what happens when you get to the other end of this course? Well, we don't normally do 55 miles an hour because it's really stupid, sir, because things get busted up and broken. We usually run it about 5 to 10 miles an hour because we overlap and watch each other and we kind of want to pay attention to where the bad guys are. So we don't really run in at 55 miles an hour anywhere unless we absolutely had control and we want to lose some track here and there because there's all kinds of parts and maintenance things we don't tell you about. It looks great in the movies though. The Japanese lost all credibility when they used a group of blueprints from Popular Science Magazine to build Fukushima. I mean, that's a different story. That's where you have characters who are, you know, well, you gotta remember they were hyper paranoid of nuclear from the get go. That's because like all the rest of this, I don't know what it is, but the Jewish mafia got their fingers into all the nuclear pie and they screwed the Japanese just like they've been screwing us. They just screwed them openly. Plus, there's all these rules, remember they told you they had all these rules for storage and everything. Then we find out later that, well, they kind of really broke them. I've talked about this. I know guys that are in nuclear storage, and they try to get you to do something scurrilous, so they've got blackmail on you. And then after that, you have to turn a blind eye with the rest of the scurrilous pigs while they violate the law left and right. Seriously. 400 million gallons, or whatever it is, a month. into the ocean for the last four years. Well radioactive is cesium. The worst kind of radioactivity there is. Well I saw the Godzilla movie so I know what's coming next. Don't you hear me? The original Godzilla. Oh! The criminal criminal testing and all the pollution. No one ever talks about it. I mean it's just like this. You know we're, I mean it's over. Yeah but it's a dead world. See we're getting away from what we have. It's Mark. Go ahead, go ahead. Mark, you know I just ordered the guts off of Amazon was Godzilla meets the smog monster. Oh, yes. We're all going to die from smog and from global freezing, remember? Because coming with that was global freezing with the smog monsters. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember that like it was yesterday, guys. In fact, I just pulled my... and Nancy knows I don't throw anything away. I have all my notebooks from college, you know. What you got, Fluffy? Go ahead, Fluffy. Oh, no, I was just... Oh, okay. I thought I heard another word. Colorado. I'm sorry, go ahead, Colorado. Jim in there. Yeah, earlier, there were vehicles, and we learned from our European... friends about trash trucks and barricade breaching. Yeah, oh yeah. Well actually that's a start kit. Yeah. Get a trash truck. One of the things to watch was, well think about what's happened here with the, again like you said, the Ukraine. How is it the eastern Ukraine forces are fighting? What did they do? They went out and they scavenged everything. And everything becomes part of your military asset when the time comes. However, some of it you hate to waste. Example is combat engineer vehicles, having to drop them in front of the road to slow things down is worse, but it's hard to replace them. Unless you can get the real estate back and recover your equipment, but then you're going to do a lot of work to fix it. The trash trucks are again another solution because anything that's engineer oriented, can be added to weight wise. Think about this, the trash truck you're talking about, everybody thinks, well I'd be a welding armor on the outside. Well yeah, you could still weld some more steel on what's already there. But understand that a trash truck is designed to carry so much tonnage. Now, think the other way, sandbags on the inside are a hell of a lot cheaper and faster. And one of the things to remember is that the combat engineers have taught this with their dump trucks. Dump trucks are a fantastic, well, light APC. Because the dump truck you can line the whole back end with with sandbags you can bet it with sandbags Which is what they're trained to do, but if you got to get rid of it to go back to the original job What do you do hit the switch hit the hydraulics lift the back and you drop the sandbags where you need them for another project? Trash truck. Yeah, you have a mobile firing platform. Yeah, exactly from all the well you remember you got loading deck side doors or access side doors for maintenance and The idea behind it is that they can be improved upon. Sandbags are still the cheapest. It's low tech. Remember, most of what happens with armored vehicles is spalled. That's where most of your damage comes inside. On modern vehicles, what's your equivalent to a sandbag? Inside most armored vehicles, you have Kevlar blankets. They're designed and cut for the inside panels. They hang via a hanger or screw system and you lock everything in place and you secure it so that it can't go anywhere and that illuminates a percentage of the spalled. Not everything because if it's big enough and it's coming through it's going to eat through everything anyway. But you think the same way but with sandbags because that garbage truck is designed to carry how many tons of debris. So instead of tons of debris, you're carrying sandbags and even more panels on the inside. Remember, anything reduces energy in layers when you do laminate armor. That's what you're building. The outer steel already has to be a certain grade to be able to contain the trash. The inner walls are to a degree tempered steel, depending upon who built them. Your bucket blade is, again, if it's left in the upward station, offers some overhead cover. There's a good choice. You still have access to the back and again sandbags wherever you need them just to compensate for the difference. You may have to roll over to get out of something, but you can put two layers of sandbags in the rear. The only thing you got to make sure you armor the driver. Pour buggers out front. Contrary to the dukes of hazard and the A-Team, the plastic and sheet metal doesn't offer a whole lot, so you got to armor him up and you give him better protection in general. Because if he stops, you stop. Because God invented reverse gear, you don't have to put him in danger. If all else fails, feet don't fail me now, we're going the other direction exactly. Or back the truck into battle, is that what you're saying? Well, that is another option, yes. That's another thing that works. Because again, you're trying to gain feet. You may not be trying to gain yards. You may not be trying to gain miles. And the big thing is anything you can put around you to reduce damage is a plus. I mean it doesn't have to be pretty. Pretty never won a war. Pretty never wins jack or squat. That's what they did in Europe, was they used trash trucks to go through police barricades backwards. Anyway, gotta run. Okay, thank you. And appreciate it. By the way, on that note, a lot of the higher pieces of equipment have multi-speed reverse. Don't forget that. That's one of the things that you know, they used to joke about that Polish tanks reverse speeds they did But there we got to remember guys. Here's the other thing about a lot of that equipment They also had dual driving stations front and rear You had a bigger you had a bigger crew and you had a driver to the rear than a driver to the front when you had to get out guess what you all you did was shift control the guy in the back took over and you were leaving just as quick as you showed up, so I had it well even tank said granny guy was on him and Well, yeah, but for instance, if you look at the internals, if you do research on the Sederkowotz and the 232 model armored cars, you'll notice that they have a driving station in the front and a driving station in the rear. That's the eight wheeled armored cars that the Germans had the beginning of all through World War II. They have progressively developed and built them better. They didn't turn around when they left. All they did was go in the other direction which saved a whole hell of a lot of time trying to figure out how to get out of dodge. Not to mention offering a broadside to your opponent. Yeah, in other words, you walk into something and remember again by the end of the war with Spears, which goes full circle back to this, Spears of course argued, increase the firepower and mobility and again take advantage of existing systems, run them to the nth degree until they can't be run no more and then put them in auxiliary locations. We need to be thinking the same way. The trash truck idea is the best example. Dump trucks are another one. If working from scratch and looking for a platform, while we need cement trucks, the reason I brought up cement trucks is we had a cement company here. We built a couple of these. The guy would give us the cement trucks for free. We just couldn't use them. What he said is, eight, you can have them, but you can't use them as cement trucks. The description I gave you earlier is what we built, guys, because again, the other thing is you take all the weight off and then what you do is you take it to the scales first, weigh your piece of equipment. Now, take it to where you're going to and shed all the weight that you can that's not relevant as far as like auxiliary systems, like the engine that runs the drum, the drum itself, all that's going to be gone. Even the frame that holds the drum, that's going to be gone. Now, go weigh it after you've stripped it. There's your differential in armor that you can add. See how that works? Plus, remember, it was a dump truck. Well, what was it carrying? Or what was it? It was a cement truck. How many tons was it designed to carry in organic transport in addition to what its weight was? In other words, can it carry five tons? Was it designed to hold ten tons? Well, some of these big cement trucks will hold ten, twelve, and fifteen tons easily. Oh, yeah. Now, that's fifteen tons worth of whatever you want to put on that vehicle and that frame's not going to bend. That'll stop bullets. Yeah, lots of bullets if you do it right. And we are into the next time. Remember, laminate armor, and nothing, in fact, it would be a track, it would be a wheeled tank. And by the way, that's an old argument going back and forth between the two. Anyway, ideas, guys, not just complaining about the problems, how can they come up with solutions? And solutions, Don, your number for Night Vision, you're gonna be available in a minute. Hey, that number's 231796. 8458. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Take a look at the bowling ball mortars everybody's offering. Remember, mortars are faster to build than artillery and can reach the same ranges depending on how big they are. Don, you never expect this. Please give it up. Two more times, you'll be available. Hey, DR in, uh, Markeena, give me a call. My number is 2317968458. You don't have to be DR to give me a call, but I'd really like to hear from DR at 2317968458. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless you, America. 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