August 18, 2014
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59m
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2014
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Mark Koernke discussed military vehicle design and improvised armor construction, covering light armored vehicles, Humvee limitations, and practical methods for retrofitting civilian trucks with protective plating using quarter-inch steel, sandbags, and salvaged materials. He addressed the Ferguson, Missouri National Guard deployment, criticized government vehicle procurement decisions, and explained horsepower-to-weight ratios in armor design. The show shifted to broader political topics including California's fuel tax, water scarcity, dairy industry consolidation with Chinese imports, trucking regulations, and migration of California residents to other states driving up property values and spreading progressive policies.
- armored vehicles
- humvee
- light mechanized
- ferguson missouri
- national guard
- vehicle armor
- steel plating
- sandbag armor
- california fuel tax
- dairy industry
- chinese imports
- trucking regulations
- preparedness
- michigan militia
- second amendment
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Well, it is a beautiful, eh, start of clear up out there. That's really weird. So, eh, we might even have a clear but muggy night tonight here in lower Michigan. Today's date, well, it's still, as you know, the 18th of August. It is the sixth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K-2014 old earth calendar or Nostradamus Doom Calendar That's right. Well again for everybody out there. It is again also Monday. Yeah, it's Man, it's been Monday all day, and I'm not getting enough done. You know it's funny I mean I got a lot done, but I just you know you where the hell the time go that's really what kind of a day it's been it's like yeah, I get to get one more thing to man and look at the time However, pay attention, we've got a whole bunch of stuff we just shipped out and especially technology for our radio friends. I have been blessed with accessing a whole bunch of good hardware that definitely is needed. And we are sorting and lining up all of the duplicates so that for everybody out there you'll have copy after copy after copy after copy of the exact same machine. One breaks, unplug it, put the other one in. That's the whole idea of backups to backups to backups that are cookie cutters one after the other big advantage there with regard to What's going on with Ferguson of course Ferguson misery slash st. Louis as we know the National Guard are pre deploying there There's some pretty good imagery there if you're trying to see What's been deployed go to Henry's from the trenches will report scroll down I believe it's about halfway down the scroll you'll see a picture of military hardware sent to Ferguson. Medium and light mechanized is what it is. Mostly light, this is all light mechanized even by earlier standards it's light mechanized guys. The Humvees of course have those really, oh my god, just as crude and rude as stupid as they could be. roof turrets. You know what gets me about this? I have all over the place the the armor that came off the M113 battle wagons. We used to get the plate, the front plate and the wraparound plate for like $50 guys. I can drop those on any number of vehicles. They were already built, they were brand new. Most of them are brand new, never issued from Vietnam. They drop right into the Pental Station and everything for the Humvees. Instead of the really cool, well thought out and well engineered, we got these crude, rude, po-dunk, some are this way, some are that way, all of them are built from scratch because they had to be home built. So when everybody does the, oh, if we don't have Army government standard, we just, what are you talking about? How about if we have the older Army government standard with twice the armor and the homogeneous armor plate face harden the whole nine yards, is that what you're talking about? Unlike the garbage they improvised in the field because they were desperate to try and figure out how to put protection up on the roof that everybody was kind of warned about, if you try to play armored car with something that was, remember, supposed to be just a replacement for the Jeep. Does anybody remember that? In fact, to be quite honest, the Humvee was actually supposed to replace two categories of vehicle. Number one, that M880 Dodge Ram truck or that Kukvi Chevy pickup truck. and also the quarter ton weapons carriers slash the Jeeps which it didn't because the stinking Humvee was so big it wouldn't fit anywhere. Now even the newer vehicles aren't much better so bigger is not better. Perwell provided they provide you know they make all odds extra space for it these big tubby vehicles can get down where. Have you thought about the idea that even if they do how do they get out with the side doors not able to open if they go down some jammed in space that can barely fit? or with enough obstacles that you know they really can follow a few things part of a building whatever and they're not going anywhere they're finished they have no way to get out they have no space they had no wiggle room to begin with see that's one of the things it was argued about by the MPs when they said don't get rid of the M1514 month because the Humvee is a piece of garbage for our work because they had to get down back alleys they need to be able to shoot you know shoot scoot and chase and where they do work typically it's you know old world new world old dog they figured that out but government didn't well government did intentionally they were too busy giving our stuff away to foreigners again the same batch of foreigners the oil boys over the middle east to rip this off of everything they could and still do okay now otherwise real quick armor is not that hard to build and i've mentioned this before so i'm gonna bring this up again now what do you think it was interesting those dodge pickup trucks You know, I've been watching videos. You guys are wrecking vehicles better than the stuff that we're driving right now. Condition, especially body-wise. If the bodies are intact, mechanical is no big deal. These little brat four-wheel drive vehicles are excellent rat-pack vehicles, guys. You throw a military-type Jeep trailer behind that. You got everything you need for a recon fire team to deploy, establish themselves, and then move out. They can field themselves with all the material support they need dragging along behind them. If they need to be a little more maneuverable, they can drop the trailer and go deeper into reconnaissance mode. Rollfires are a great place to afford gun mounts. If you don't think so, take a look at some of our videos on YouTube. You might notice there's some brats in there that we already pretty well employed before. the brats were cheap. Still are. I mean, if I'm laying around people don't want them. Hell, sometimes they're shooting the snot out of them. Nothing wrong with it. They're not rusted up. See, if you're in a state that doesn't have rust, it's kind of stupid to be destroying tactical vehicles like that. Now, if that thing is burned or already crushed, drag that out there and shoot that sucker up. Otherwise, if it's something that looks like it's got four wheels, an engine, a trans, and it's got sheet metal around it, then I'll tell you what, tape off all the glass, tape off all of the lights, and go to town with some, you know, a little quick scrub pad and some house paint and make it a tactical vehicle. There ya go. Put a box in on it if you want to. You know, so you got a, you know, back wall for, you know, troop seats in whatever direction you want to go facing outward or facing inward. It's up to you. But one of the cool things, you also got the premise for a light armored vehicle. You strip off all the junk you don't need and the metal you don't need. and you weigh that, you can add that plus the weight of cargo and that's how much steel you can add to something. Oh, that's right. And you can also beef up the suspension and the shock system and you can probably add a couple hundred more pounds there of steel. Which means if you're a little creative and you take the time you can mimic up any number of different number a number of different vehicles out there and Well, no, it's not gonna stop an Abrams round anybody stupid when they open their face I guess somebody says well, they've got nuclear devices. Well, and you're plain stupid, aren't you? Well good. They've got nuclear bombs. It's like yeah stupid Well now you just you know aired the apparent there and obvious. I like your point Well, I need to have an excuse to not do anything that's sit on my hands. Otherwise, building light armored vehicles is not that complicated, but here's a quickie. It's called an armored truck. You're seeing a lot of these floating around, but even they're not as well built. Quarter inch of steel behind the driver's seat inside, bolted in place, run the through bolts right through the body of the truck and on the outside, put in a quarter inch piece of steel and cut it the size of the back panel of the truck, the back of the cab. Okay, now inside the box throw yourself another quarter inch piece of steel cut at the same size as the inner part of the box up against the face wall to the cab bolt that into place Make sure you include a little bit of a standoff spacers. You can get washers you can make can make it from Pieces of pipe whatever you want to do why well you might want to sled some Kevlar as you get junk Kevlar in between the truck body and the quarter inch steel plate You've upgraded your arm even yet again Now you can also put a steel plate on the bottom of the whole deck of the truck on the bed in the back wouldn't hurt just slide it right in there cut it to size bolt it into place Now on the back lid take another quarter inch piece of steel not on the outside on the inside and cut it so that you can shut the lid. It's going to make the lid heavier. You might want to make sure that those connectors that hang that back trunk lid, that back gate lid, make sure that they're tough, rough, and ready to roll. Make sure that they're squared away. Now if you want to, you can go one step more. But you see, I've just armored the truck up surreptitiously. You wouldn't know this truck is armored as well as it is. Drop up or flip down armor for the cab window, the back window, everybody goes, we'll work the glass. Yeah, well here's how that's gonna work. A quarter inch flip up or slide up, take your pick. It can slide up from below or be folded up and bolted into place. You run your through bolt stations in place already. You can use butterfly or wing nut bolts, that where you don't, wing nuts, those will work just fine. Put the plate up in there, lay it into place, tighten down your wing nuts, however many you decide to use for your fixture. Leave the glass in place. Glass is a ballistic protection also. Not a whole lot, but it's safety glass, kids, so it will afford some protection. Plus, you might want to be able to eventually see when you're not in quite an intensive situation. Now, if you want just to be safe, number one, protect the radiator up front. You can louver the radiator inside so that it actually can still take clean air pass through it. But with 16th or 8th inch steel, you create the same kind of louvers that you see in the front of a standard armored car, like a white half track or a white armored car four-wheeler. The difference? One's tracked, one's wheeled. Otherwise, same family of vehicle. Okay? Beyond that, put a push bumper, any grade doesn't make any difference, but heavier would be nicer. Put a winch up front, but also take your spare tire, make a quarter inch or an eighth inch steel plate, weld yourself a couple of lugs to that, and put your spare tire up front, and make another cap to go over top of the front of the tire too, around the wheel well, or even over the whole tire. Now you've got frontal armor. Random, but it's additional metal material. See how that works? Now when the time comes and I want to upgrade this thing with regard to going down the road. Mr. Sandbag is your friend and To help armor up the truck. Remember side panels for the rear Take your pick about what you want to use there. You can use boards if you're cheap and don't have as much to work with. You can use, again, corrugated steel rail from the side of the road and make yourself some stand-up plates on either side that drop in like hay racks on the back of a pickup truck, you know, with posts where you have the post stations. And then what you do is you put sandbags, one line on one side, one line on the other. First put one layer on the base of the truck on top of that quarter-inch plate. Then take a sandbag line and put it on the left, a sandbag line on the right, and even one up front if you want to. Now, you still got a little loose area behind you, but you got to live with that. You got to be able to get it out of the vehicle. But what you've just done is created a light armored vehicle that probably is going to offer more protection than the Humvee does right now. What about the doors, Mark? Hey, when the time comes, add yourself some steel panels left and right on those doors. Why not? and then any of the external panels you want to add, it's purely matter what you can scavenge or what you choose to mount up. If you go into combat, the other thing is you're going to want to make a couple of trays that sit on the hood. You put a couple of sandbags right in front of the dash, in front of the windshield, where the hood bends up front. And the reason for that is because typically when somebody's firing at you, bullets have a tendency to skid off a material even though it might not be very thick. And the hood isn't very thick, in fact many cases it's plastic. The sandbag is a bullet trap to make sure you don't have a spinner coming up into the windshield and visiting your face. Now, for those of you who don't understand that, have you ever seen bullet splash V's on tanks? Yeah, you have. You probably weren't paying attention. You know, the drivers on tanks have a tendency to keep their little noggin up above the edge of the armor so they can spot what's going on and get undercover when it looks serious. Have you noticed on the front of the T, for instance, the T-72, they call it T-64, which we used to. But the T-72, which of course has the M-60 type chassis, oh, should we mention that? Yeah, they copied our M-60. Anyway, if you look, you'll notice there's some V-type things on the hull in front of where the driver is. What are those? You want to know what that is? All that is is angle iron. They are turned around with the two contact surfaces, the two ends of the L facing down, welded in place, and they create a bullet splash. Bullet hits the glacis and starts to pancake out rather than going into the face of the driver and cutting him a new hind end, cutting him a new extra eyeball. What happens is the bullet scuds into that angle, that 45 degree angle piece of sheet of angle iron slash heavy steel, and it scuds up and into the air. If the first one doesn't do it, the other one might catch it, etc. That's why there's more than one. But the reason is to offer a limited amount of additional protection slash defense for minimal cost to the builder of the machine. Okay, now another thing. Armored cars are not tanks. Humvees are not tanks. They were never meant to be when you had all these piss willies making these comments. Our boys were not protected in the Humvees. Your boys were not supposed to be protected in the Humvees. They were no different than asking your grandpa, hey grandpa, when you went to combat did the Jeep offer much protection? Well, only if you could turn it around and run like hell with it some, because you'd do great cross-country 45, 50 miles an hour wheeling and bopping all over the place, but by God, she'd get you out of there. You didn't hear about Uncle Fred or your Uncle Bob telling you, Moles, Buggers, My Jeep wasn't armored enough, how dare they! It's like, nah, it's a soft skinned vehicle, what's your point? Well, the Humvee was a soft skinned vehicle. In fact, I pointed out it was replacing what was called the Dodge Weapons Carrier, and that goes back to pre-World War II, the idea of a cavalry vehicle. All that the Dodge weapons carrier was, if you look at all your books you'll see it many times over. By the way, the Dodge weapons carrier carried everything up to a 37 millimeter tank gun. Three-quarter ton pickup truck with a 37 millimeter tank gun on a pintle in the back of the truck. But it also carried a BAR, if need be, don't see that very often. A Browning 1919A6, see that a lot. Browning 1919 A4 water cooled, see that a lot. M250 caliber, oh they always show those in movies. But they don't usually show them in the back of the three-quarter ton, they show them to you in the rat patrol with a jeep. Which is kind of flippy. But anyway, the fact of the matter is, the Humvee was never meant to be an armored vehicle, they did make a Kevlar version to reduce fragmentation and to reduce small arms injury. Key word I said was reduce. But all these pantyways, paper pushers, bean counters, or idiots that were never going to go into combat with it, all of a sudden were telling you all about how you didn't know what you were doing when you built it when in fact everybody knew exactly what they were buying when they built it. Okay? It was not meant to be a police car in a war zone, which is all that Vietnam II Iraq was, with lots of exciting war type footage and all kinds of death and dying. Except that drive around in circles, somebody takes a potshot at you, mow down the guys, you know, the neighbor who has nothing to do with his wife and kids in the car, shoot up their car because you're having fun, jump out, beat the snot out of somebody you catch, where's Osama, where's Osama, where's Osama? Guy doesn't know anything you're talking about, can't speak English, you let him go, he goes, joins Osama. Why? Because it's the one thing he didn't understand. And then you get back in your Humvees and you drive around in circles and play cop. In a war zone. as an army. It's a waste of our time. So then we had to start upgrading and then we were crushing the suspension. And by the way, there's not one vehicle I've seen that we haven't intentionally grossly miscalculated the suspension and support system for the vehicle. The striker is a pig on the road. It's a pig. You ever watch them when they turn? You know, that's a basic rule. Ask yourself, should your vehicle, when it makes a right turn, Should the outside tire be depressing or depressing the inside tire as it is designed so that the suspension lifts and helps you to bank in the turn? If you have the weight on the outboard side, let's say you try to turn left and the weight is shifting to the outboard side, that is called a roll-o-matic. By the way, I will point out that the M1514 at over 47 mph did the same thing. because it wasn't meant to be a high speed road vehicle, it was meant to be a dark side of the road combat vehicle. The M1514 mutt you call a cheap. The last one was made. I almost rolled one once only because again straight angle out the turn, slow down and get your foot off the gas pedal and stretch it out and may take every last part of the side of the road you can while you're slowing down and don't do anything strange, hold her still. It wasn't meant for high speed road use. It was meant for cross country, oh my god you can't drive through that and you take that Jeep and put her in four wheel drive and you go, oh I can. That's what it was built for. It wasn't built for expressway use. Well, anyway, the point is that mid armored vehicles or light armored or mid armored vehicles are not tanks. They were never meant to take main tank rounds, they were meant to shoot and scoot. The idea is get the hell out of there before that happens. Move and fire, move and fire. Like a rifleman. In order to be able to move and do what you need to do to take ground, you need to shave weight or increase horsepower. And if you increase horsepower, but you don't increase carry capacity, you lose, lose. So there's a balance there with every one of these tools that were built in the toolbox, like a chessboard with arbitrary values for movement with everything on the chessboard. The same is true with vehicles on the battlefield. The Cadillac gauge armored car, in the one picture, it's a light armored vehicle by military standards. It doesn't mean it doesn't offer protection. Better than your arse hanging in the breeze. Even the M-Raps are like that. But if you know what failures there are with regard to the vehicle and you understand its shortcomings, then you make sure you don't get stuck in those situations. The problem is with most everybody receiving this equipment right now is they've had no time, nor have they had any down time. And if they did, they let somebody else fix it. So the people who should be working on it don't have a clue, unlike mechanizing cab units where typically everybody wrenches on the equipment because you may not be out in the shop there when everything breaks down. You might be out in the middle of BFE. So again, they're not tanks, but they are again anything we capture. Let's point something else out here Why you know I have not gotten in the middle of this argument about oh The cops are getting all this stuff I've tried to kind of quietly point out the more stuff the cops get the more is out there where we can get to it Because otherwise it's going to some skank overseas the Israelis and they're stealing us blind and they sell the stuff either back to us or they sell it to our enemies to kill us. Example, ISIS, Israeli-Israeli. Remember, we armed them, outfitted them, equipped them, gave them American equipment. Where do you think the American equipment came from? Can't give it to the American citizen. But by God they can give it to those skank Israelis and they can carry it off Which is who's pissing and moaning about why the sheriff's everybody's getting the gear Because if they're getting that gear Well, then the Israelis can't make their big money off to the side selling it for six times them You know six times the price at half the value In other words way way past what they should and they'll even dump it back on us in the surplus market guys if it's last leg anyway point is Well now we're in a situation where here we are You know Ukraine let me put it this way East Ukraine How did the East Ukraine militia end up armed the way they are right now guys? What did the East Ukraine militia do to get their heavy weapons? Where did they go to get them? from the cop shops from the guard sites from all right down the shopping list local the local police militia The only reason the Easter cradians can put up a fight right now at all is because they were smart moved quick exit stage right into the camp of the police state or you know police operations and they grabbed everything that wasn't nailed down Where do you think those columns of BMDs and BMPs go look at all these videos? I've been watching this and it's like oh, okay. I can see where they painted over the markers and So they obviously captured it from one group as a whole, probably and again, a parking lot somewhere, a storage site that was forgotten about. Well better it all be out amongst the countryside where we can access it. So someone doesn't take a thumper and go boom and get rid of all of your reserves all at once and now you have nothing. Doesn't mean we can't build, we can. We can build from scratch. what I was just talking about. Next step is build the simplest of armored vehicles which is not that complicated. Remember automotive drivetrain automotive drivetrain automotive drivetrain some of the best and most reliable light armored vehicles ever built were completely built under the premise that they use existing truck parts. What about some old class a equipment marked like Freightliner? to allow it that care exactly you take it to impact it the only thing is uh... how high she rides but not a one of the best are born of the best premise vehicles and yet there's lots of old cement trucks you know the cement trucks that have the center drive station with the middle of the control unit right there in the front of the vehicle You've seen those on the road where the driver can do everything from the cab without even leaving a cab, right? Yeah, it's a big box in front. Yeah, okay He's got the box command post in the front those make the best stinking armored vehicles you can find Look how many axles are on those Now think about this. I don't need that second diesel engine that comes off right away I don't need that big drum that holds the cement. By the way, how many tons of cement do you carry in a cement mixer? I was a couple yards, I forget. Many yards. Now think about when you look at the size of those dump trucks. Ask a guy, just ask him. How many tons does that cement weigh when you've got it on board? And it's in fluid form by the way. Okay? Semi-fluid. You take the you take all the extraneous components off that you don't need I don't need the hydraulics To control the bucket or to control the trough so that can all come off Now I've got a forward-mounted cab which is really cool because that's where the driver needs to be up in the front in the middle and I've got a 10 or 12 axle with variable contact That's what I leave the hydraulics in place for the time being the hydraulics that can lift and drop the extra axles If I'm traveling on the road, I lift the extra axles. Now I've got a high speed vehicle from moving from one point to the next and I'm using less rubber. But if I get into a combat situation where I have to go cross country and I made it into an armored vehicle, I can drop the number of axles that I need. Now, I can either make this into a really big APC with some firepower in the turret up on the roof, or I can make it into an armored transport, ambulance, mechanized infantry vehicle, whatever I want. But you're talking a big butt piece of equipment that's as large as a BTR-70 or a striker. Whatever you want to put up on the roof is a matter of modular. This is a little trick that most everybody forgets when we've talked about. It's why, for instance, when you have the striker, have you noticed, go take a, punch up Google, Go to images of the striker, striker images. Take a look at how many variations on the vehicle there are. Notice that everything is modular. There's only one section of the roof of the superstructure where they undo, they disconnect the fixture points. and that whole weapons platform, the turret assembly, the deck that it's on and its turret control all come out as one piece guys. Did you know that? I can turn around with that striker and drop a 105 auto-loading cannon on the roof. There's a bunch of those out there. It has the fire power of a tank but it has the armor of a tin can. If it takes a hit from a main battle tank, it's finished. Okay, but it can also run around on the battlefield a little faster. It can not expose as much of itself and it can put a round down range just as hard as the main battle tank it's shooting at. So it has its pluses and it has its minuses. Same thing can be done with those cement trucks. Consider that you're going to take as much weight off as you can. Then you're going to turn around and add steel accordingly to make your box, your superstructure to armor up the front which is going to always be thicker. One other cool thing is that the drive station is forward of the front axle on those vehicles which means it's just like an Oshkosh truck. It's designed so that if it takes and hits a mine, chances are the command cab and everything would be thrust away from the event which is a good thing. Now here's another vehicle that's really great for building an armored vehicle. Cross-country four-wheel drive forklift trucks. How many tons can a forklift truck lift? Look at the skeletonized frame of the forklift truck. Now take off the counterweight on the back, take all the hydraulics off, take the boom arm off, take the forks off, and you've got tons. of available throwaway to put armor on what is already an armored up cross country vehicle. Oh yeah! And there's tons of those around and what's really cool is they're quite economical. Now the neat thing is remember that vehicle was also designed to lift a pallet of cement blocks or a couple pallets of something heavier and do it without any problem whatsoever. while going cross country. Now we're going to shave off all that weight and we're going to improvise accordingly as far as fire power goes purely a matter of creativity. And the more creative you are, the better off you'll be. But remember, any weapon that's on an aircraft, any weapon that's out there that can be crew served on the ground, can be adapted to tracked and wheeled vehicles, no matter what it is. So, the idea here is whatever you capture, you route particular equipment towards those captured, towards the vehicle project, engines the same way. One cool thing about industrial engines is that typically they're pretty much a universal mount thing, in that they're very straightforward for attaching and detaching things and putting another motor pack in place. Even those old diesel engine trucks are pretty good for that. You've got quick and decent access You know your size and spec ranges are and you could actually switch out to another motor pack rather than going with the existing one Provided you have somebody that knows how to turn the wrench and understands the again the range and horsepower formulas Necessary remember you can still under load as far as horsepower goes any frame. She just won't move as fast. That's all You want to stay away from those? computerized. If you're going to go into a class A unit, you want 2000 to about 2005, you're editing older than that, you're going to be running into too much computerized crap. You don't want none of that. Anything computerized, stay away from it. Right. Well, or if you do, here's the problem. You have to understand it's throwaway, so you minimize everything. One of the other things to remember is, in fact, Edward had an excellent article that I believe is on our Yahoo page still showing the gentleman who came up with an armored car in 1941 based upon it's a simple sheet metal design steel, a quarter inch steel plate design to cut the body and lay it on whatever automotive chassis was available. Well, let me point... That's just the flat pattern design. There are improvements on that because, remember, armor deflects. Oh yeah, well, I was going to bring up next is... The Cadillac gauge did just exactly that. The Cadillac gauge Air Force armored cars that a lot of you guys served in were actually... They were nothing more than Chevy pickup trucks. All they do is dump the box, drop the hood and the fenders. and the whole module drops right onto the truck and you just bolt it to the existing frame and you have an armored car. It looks really official, doesn't it? Because it was painted official and it had numbers on it and it was really cool looking and it was an add-on armored package that you could buy separate. If you were a third world country, as long as you could find some old Chevy pickup trucks laying around, you could make yourself a whole armored car fleet. Right, but if you got one with an ECM, electronic control module, if you want to convert like what I'm driving, something big, and it's got an ECM in it, stay away from it. It'd be like a pre-emission. Detroit, you're looking for Detroit engines. Just go with an older Detroit, you can't go wrong. You're the neatest diesel's out there, easy to work on, and you got plenty of power. Well, most important is again, diesel, the advantage is torque because of the fact that you are going mechanized. The Russians learned this years ago and the actual throw weight with engines, the horsepower to again, the amount of weight thrown as opposed to the amount of horsepower available to apply, the ratio has never changed throughout the entire history of armor. From World War I to present day, nothing has changed. That is a fact that TARCOM, I used to sit down with the guys designing the tanks, you guys all drove around in. And it was a common knowledge thing, is that going back to Patton's time, remember those Mark 1's that he used to walk behind or next to, remember who was commanding his tanks? There is no change in the horsepower to weight ratio as far as what's needed, what's applied, what's been done. And diesel offers the best combination, which is why the Russians years ago went to the Grade 3 diesel package. Now before diesel, the Russians were using steam because steam has superior torque to diesel, direct applied energy. However, needless to say, Those tanks were also ogres. They were massive. If you don't, if you, to understand how big the tank fleet of the Russian army was under the Communists, you need to do some research. We're talking land fortresses. We're talking vehicles. You know, they always go, oh these Germans, they were really crazy because they were gonna put, you know, they were gonna make tanks so big there'd be 150 tons. Guys? I suggest you take a look at what the Russians were doing in the 20s and 30s and remember they never threw any of that armor. Those tanks were still in service in 1940-41. They were ogres, literally like land ogres. Fortresses moving, three, four turrets, main guns, four, five, six turrets, secondary guns. and literally dozens of machine guns or hundreds of small arms weapons on board the whole nine yards. They didn't make a few of them. Understand that at the beginning of World War II, Russia had 26,000 tanks forward deployed in Eastern Europe ready to go west when Hitler decided to go east. If you looked at sheer numbers, there is no possible way that the Germans could have worked over the Russians the way they did, except for the stinking piss-poor management qualities of the Jewish commissars who overrode the military commanders every time they tried to make a decision. That's why it was it was application to failure. Otherwise, they had superior manpower They had superior artillery almost six to one at one point the Russians did They had superior armor and almost like four to one granted It was every age of tank you could imagine But remember that you have to have numbers when you're looking at broad fronts that are a thousand miles long So it no army throws anything away. We didn't throw anything away in World War two guys As tanks got older, they just went into other line service. We didn't throw anything away. 37mm tank guns were still in service while we had 90mm guns on our tank destroyers. We didn't throw anything away. We slid it sideways and gave more of it to the troops while the new stuff came out. Then we gave it to our allies and then we gave it to people who weren't as friendly with us, etc. So again, nothing is outdated. That's the most common mistake made. Now horsepower is the issue of being able to apply more energy and get it from the power pack to the drive train. In other words, how can we get the most bang for the buck with regard to being able to move something? And that gets back to the old story again of, well, what do we have to work with? Gasoline engines are still an option and may have to be to a degree. Just understand the volatility of the fuel, which has always been an issue. That's why we didn't use diesel in World War II. We used gasoline, remember? Now we had diesel engines in service, so don't think that we didn't. But let's also point out that remember, because we were coming out of a depression, Many of the M4s and also the tank destroyers actually ran off aircraft engines that were high on ours. This was a method that was designed to pull more of our money that we spent on weapons and ordnance to pull more value out, to get more use out of what we paid for. So, there was an entire program to adapt aircraft engines, and they were. They were already adapted. There wasn't anything that needed to be figured out before the war. But they had been applied to our armor corps. This way, when a plane was passed, a motor was passed, its flight hours could not be used anymore. We didn't take it back and chop it up, or cut it up, or throw it in the ocean. It was slid over to the tank corps, and it was used there. and quite successfully. The only problem is air, you know, ab fuel or gasoline, when you're under fire and things go kaboom and burn, well, gasoline's not as friendly as diesel. Just heard today in the news that California's going to be the first state to add a 12 cent per gallon fuel tax. They're calling it something other but tax, but it's really going to be a tax. But California's going to be hitting us with 12 cents per gallon here real quick. And it's going to be a great big slush fund. They're going to use that to, you know, it's just a big lie type thing. They're going to use it to build the bull train with it. And they're going to use it to make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for illegal aliens and all of that kind of bull crap. But now that we're trying on this subject of fuel, this is what we're up against. Now, you know, that's going to be in California starting here real quick. And then, you know, obviously it's going to spread. But here we go. Well, again, it will be regional. Initially, obviously, it's going to be California. California says the worst state in the United States. They're like hell on earth over there. Well, I like what somebody said here. In 1850, before California became a state, it was mostly Spanish, mostly Hispanics. They had no electricity, they had no running water, and they had gunfights in the streets and ride-by shootings. Pretty much like California today. Things haven't changed much. If you want to buy a... If you like to drive and you live in California, I consider moving because it's getting ridiculous. The water's disappearing, they're raising the hell out of the fuel tax. Well, the water is intentional to a degree. One of the problems we've got, and you know we've discussed this in two things. Number one, they built the desert in the south and the middle. The natural cycles, which the scientists know but are not talking about at all. We actually run through drought cycles. It is the nature of the beast. Plus, it doesn't help that we have so much more usage. Because of the population density, the number of people that have dropped into an area that originally, even up until about three, four decades ago, wasn't as extreme as it is now. Part of that is because the characters that gravitate towards California, as far as the ultra-liberal zone areas, they're I-wants. They want everything for free, they want everything handed over to them, and they want it out of your wallet. And so collectively the fellow travelers drag more of their fellow travelers into the area and that creates the sinkhole that we now see that is California. And it's like New York City is to the rest of New York State. If you got rid of New York City, New York State has no crime problems. New York State has no financial problems. And for the longest time, except for the fact that Detroit is burned out, in other words it's on the short end of the wick, Detroit was the same way for the rest of Michigan. But we are now in the year 2014 and it has run its course. The little thing is that all those people had to go somewhere so where did they go? A lot of them died but granted but they moved out to other areas but the affluent component is no longer there to back them up. Kind of like what they are going to learn with this Ferguson thing here because everybody is saying the same thing. Hey, if you burn these businesses out, why are they going to come back? Why would they? In fact, I would be telling them to leave. They've got such a ridiculous eco-control thing going on over there. You can't even drive a semi in California unless you have the greatest police controls attached to the truck. You can't even drive a 2005 legally into the state anymore. They've just, they've freesed out. thousands upon thousands of other operators. No one wants to go unload and get your anymore. I don't know what they're going to do. How are they going to get the prototype? Because they're turning a blind eye to the Mexican drivers and the Mexican international. Yeah, exactly. And they're saying that it's not going to be rail and that's a bunch of BS. Rail can't do all that. No, well, rail could do it, but it would do it the way it originally was intended. Rail was designed to be a wholesale delivery system. And then you would still have all the trucks delivering just as much, but they would be doing it in short haul the way they should. Okay, there would be more drivers or at least as many drivers hired and kept employed. if we used rail the way we're supposed to but we're not. But the problem is that the rail is you can't get 40,000 pounds of cattle off to New York City in six days. I mean that's the time it takes. That's the time limit on the fruit. Well we used to be able to the problem is we can't now because of mismanagement because of the bureaucracy that has ruined the United States government is the same bureaucracy that has permeated all of these government-run institutions like the rail operations, which is right out of Atlas Shrugged. Remember, read the rail structure. Rail's like a pass-by now, though. I mean, just on regular freight, forget about produce. I mean, they're all, I mean, they're, they're maxed out now. They gotta build more rail. Right, they're maxed out. What they did is they compressed and destroyed massive amounts of the infrastructure that should have been maintained They did that intentionally. That goes back to the 70s. If they halved all the rail, it should have stayed double-lined. Their logic was they were going to manage this by parking a train. Start a train up, park it. Start a train up, park it. Start a train up, park it. That's just where normally it would be a one-way nonstop run at high speed. And with side rail, side terminals for anything that had to step off to the side because it was pickup or transit commercial size personnel. In other words, a travel train. People trains, people movers. Originally, that was all thought out, worked just fine. As soon as they went to the single line, then all the time factors changed because now it's like you're in the middle of the city, in the middle of nowhere. Start, stop, start, stop, start, stop. Yeah, Amtrak is two to three days late all the time now, on their long runs. That's because of, again, the share time on these lines. We talked about that back in the 70s. And everybody was like, well, this doesn't make any sense. Well, this is going to be more efficient. No, it's not. And lo and behold, like everything else, all these buffoons that bought into this screwed us. See, that's the whole point. But it's like what you're saying with California. The emphasis is this. When you're going down the road, they can read who you are, can't they? Oh, yeah. They can exactly who you are. So when it says, Juan Felicium, and he's with the internationaltruckmex.com Then they're not going to touch him because they were told not to because it's not politically correct to touch Juan when he's driving that 20-year-old truck that's got a nice paint job on the outside in chunks of body parts and stuff all on the way down the road. That's it. Right. That's that napkin lane, that thing from Texas all the way up to where you guys are. Exactly. But they won't let him do east to west as much as they will north to south. They'll go to Juan and do whatever the hell he wants north to south, but east to west is different. different matter but all I'm saying is how the hell you gotta beat people when you can't move it from the west to the east. I mean it's just as good, it's getting really, it's getting really bad man. That's gonna be a real big problem. Well part of the issue there too though, let's map this out. Number one, the food producers in California are all systematically being attacked until the communist Chinese have them. It's just like what we saw with Harry Reid and the whole thing with the Bundy Ranch. The Bundy Ranch is the last one. They already did 47 of them. With the farmers in California, they're doing the same thing. Wisconsin, by the way, is no different. I've got truck drivers. One of the guys just retired here. He was making runs from California every what, three days. Straight there, straight back to Wisconsin. What was he hauling? dried milk from communist China. Why was it going to Wisconsin? Because they've killed off or they've taken under control all the dairy farmers and run them out of business. But it's a cheese state, Mark. Yeah, and all that cheese, the big chunk of it, is all being made with whatever garbage they call milk from communist China already. comes in as powdered milk on the docks, they load up a whole truck, and he just, that's all he was doing, is running it from California to Wisconsin. And they reconstitute it, so it's called milk, and they make their cheese. That's why I've noticed this about cheese recently, and of course, part of this is with all the regulations to drive out real cheese. The texture, the quality has changed. Well, what is it that's changed? Well, especially if you think, well, I'm going to buy Wisconsin cheese. Wisconsin cheese is mostly reconstituted communist Chinese will. That's where it came from. That's where it, of course, going right to us. Just like they're talking about doing with the chicken and the pork and the beef. But they've already been doing it with the milk. And you tell me, if they got a vat over there, you think that if they know it's coming to us that they're worried about what falls in that vat? Think about it. I don't know what the hell they're thinking. They won't let trucks in because they're damn, uh, pollution control standards are too tight. The only ones that they're taking care of are their own. That gives preferential treatment to those that are in the know. They got the little finger to the side of the nose. They're in the nose. They get special Hail Mary treatment and they get to go wherever. Whereas the person like you and me gets through. The people are gonna have, the people are gonna have raise hell on the u.s. on the california senate i mean this is getting rich and that's getting real list alvino i mean i i mean i you know that california most people over there at match out the problem is is that why do you think we have a problem in denver and boulder colorado why do you think we have a problem in austin texas right now where do you think that came from you just mentioned the state These parasites, we had this wave happen in the 90s, of course they all died out by the end of the 90s wherever they went, but you get a postage stamp lot in California, you're talking a million dollar home. Now, you dump that million dollars and get the hell out of California and what happened is prices used to be you could buy a ranch in Wyoming for $40,000 and that would be with an old two-story farmhouse on it probably, two or three buildings. and probably between 20 and 40 acres for a small postage stamp spread. All these California cornicators came out with no clue the value or the price schedule and they started spending stupid money and people put ridiculous prices on the property and they still paid it. Why? Because they had a bunch of chump change left over from the stupid new operations in California. Well, they changed the cost of living. The average little guy who figured, well, my daughter's going to get married and the neighbor's boy is going to buy that ranch down the road for $40,000 and they'll be farming like we always did. They can't do that because the idiots from California paid a half a million dollars for a spread that should have only been $40,000 off in the middle of BFE. And the character that moved in eventually, well, when the rest of his California money ran out, he didn't have any income. So he abandoned the site. We have this happen in the Upper Peninsula. I'd take you to five bedroom homes on Lake Michigan. On the top of Lake Michigan right now, they have been abandoned now for 12, 14, 16, 17 years. Beautiful spreads. Ranch houses, five bedroom, face out to the lake. Grass as tall as my belt line. They are from the 60s or the 70s, nothing wrong with them, but nobody can afford them and nobody is going to move into them. The people who had them just walked away and they are literally abandoned modern housing. And it's like this all over the country. Well, what happened is then these stinking fellow travelers, these parasite communists, and top everything else, what's the first thing they do? If they can get any position of power, they bring in more of these funky pieces of trash for the California land, and they drop them into these positions, and all of a sudden they're passing laws like right there in Texas. The queers can go into the boys' bathroom, and the queers can go into the girls' bathroom. Yeah. Well, that's the kid you got, Rick Perry. Yeah, but you see what I mean. How do they get past? It's just like the anti-gun stuffing cow. We're all from Texas, really? And so you can't have open carry of a handgun in the cowboy state? Think about that. You know how stupid that is? Now, they should have overturned that already. Oh, but wait a minute. Those fake cowboys, you know, like the Bushes, you know, from the East Coast, those liberal neocons plopped their arse down there, and they didn't do anything to fix that for the people that are pro-gun, did they? Oh, think about it. Neither did Perry. Oh, oh, oh, you know, we got a, in other words, he's a dink that's licking, you know, he's licking the both hind ends. So he's not licking yours, he's just, you know, going through the motion. But it's just, it's true, he's not the only one, he's just a symptom. I mean, in reality, if it wasn't that parrot, it'd be some other parrot. That's the kicker right now until we clean the place out. We know again. It has been the wall protect You know the area behind we're not gonna have it fixed. We are almost to the top of the hour I got to remind everybody we've got the end of the year fundraiser Also, I need to remind you to get a hold of Randy about that thing. He needs help with with the baseball team Oh yes, oh yeah. He called me this weekend and I told him I would remind you and I've been so busy I have not had a chance to call you. We got stuck here, one of our friends, his wife had a stroke, we had to, you know, the big guy, we had to go down and rebuild a whole bunch of the house so she can get in the house. It's been eating up hours and hours and hours. It's built like a brick doghouse guys. I'm gonna tell you what, I've decided from now on I've been doing this for quite some time. Two by ten, two by twelve. There is no plywood on anything I build anymore. The walls are two by six, two by eight, two by ten, whatever I can get hold of. Built like a brick doghouse? No, it's built like a log cabin only. It's a flat wall. But I'll tell you what, same with the decking. Stand on this. There's no decking board. It's all two by twelve. Oh, and again, somebody else throwing it away, we're smart enough to pick it up. We are at the top just about by the way. Little past, we got Randy coming up next. My goodness, we got to get out of here. Guys, for everybody out there, hopefully we're trying to plant seed. Don't tell me you can't do it. We've done all of this before. What we need to do is continue to stay focused and push for reserves, into the reserves, build up our depth. multi-dimensional resources from all categories with regard to Quartermaster. Everything from headgear to boots to cupboards to hind end and the equipment to keep the troops in the field. God bless the Republic. Yes, with a new world order we shall prevail. Ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. Where are the marks? Stay tuned. Don't you go anywhere. 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