August 14, 2014
Evening Show
1h 8m
Complete
Radio Episode
2014
▶ Audio Player
Summary
Mark Koernke and Don Batcher discussed night vision technology deployment for tactical teams, covering weapon systems integration, magnification trade-offs, and team composition strategies. They detailed second-generation night vision gun sights and viewers with specific pricing, emphasized the importance of supporting riflemen with proper equipment, and explained historical examples from Korea and World War II where precision rifle marksmanship proved decisive. The hosts also discussed fire team tactics, rear guard operations, smoke and illumination devices, and the role of specialized marksmen in night operations.
- night vision technology
- second generation gun sights
- ar-15
- m16a1
- rifle marksmanship
- fire team tactics
- rear guard operations
- svd sniper rifle
- korea
- world war ii
- tactical team composition
- magnification field of view
- smoke grenades
- illumination devices
- preparedness
Transcript
Click a timestamp to jump
Loading transcript...
Live 365. MainMilitary.com has a large selection of pistols and rifles suited for your needs. Are your local stores sold out of ammunition? Call or visit them today for prices on hard to find ammo and bulk ammo orders. You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because MainMilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at MainMilitary.com. That's Main, like the state, Military.com. Well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the evening ladies and gentlemen this is the Evening Intelligence Report time, Mark Kornke. And I'm Don Batcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories West, Southwest, East, and South East. Ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... liberty tree radio dot four m g dot com indiana freedom talk radio dot com running with the micro stations cb base stations and ultra net technologies east and west of the mississippi along with alaska where the homework network from the top of me to the bottom of florida from the bottom of florida crossey ark of the gulf of mexico Headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, Big Chugga, Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 3rd, the 5th, the 5th, and our friends in the recall state of Colorado. Waving to the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson, we turn back to the east, sweep over the plains, over the Mississippi, and land in the Smokies with the restaurant crews, grammar teams, OK teams, and the Maville Grammar Consortium bring us the Golden Spike. Been a perfect day today, still cool. It's going to get cool out there tonight. Grab a jacket if you're headed out. Remember, it is a perfect workday here in Michigan. Don, what's it like up in your neck of the woods? What's the date today, sir? Mark, it is the 14th day of August. Year of our Lord 2014 is 14, 814, or 814, 14, however you want to line up them numbers, but that's the date and I'm sticking to it. No. Beautiful date. a little bit chilly, a little bit breezy, a lot cold for this time of year. Somebody's got to blame Al Gore for that. It's all his fault. We don't need to elaborate on his... Just guilty. Al Gore. Where's your global warming? Could you use some of it today, you rat? At any rate, it is the 14th day of August. It's a Thursday, too. You guys just thought I'd throw that in there for a bit more. It's not like the 14th day of August every year is a Thursday. Oh, what was December 17, 1973? Was that a Wednesday? I'm not sure, but again, today is the 14th day of August, 2014. I've got to say this here real quick, you guys. Sometimes we just go off on places that you're not going to hear on any other radio broadcast. Mark, I've got the hummingbird feeder out here. And for the last two days I've actually seen it get bigger. Yesterday a fledgling, it couldn't have been flying for like three days, hummingbird. Barely body, barely as big as the little digit in half of the next portion of my baby finger flying up to the feeder here. And it's sat and perched and it's the dinkiest hummingbird I've ever seen. You guys, it's only slightly bigger than a great, great, great big bumblebee. It's bigger than it was yesterday. That's cool. I've never seen a hummingbird that new, that young. That's another way to put it. But you know what? Some people, those existential creeps, oh, what is the purpose of life? Well, if you don't enjoy dinky little sights like that, you've lost all your purpose of life. If you can't just say, man, look at that. I've never seen that before and talk about it. There's good proportion and purpose of your life is just wasted. Because if we can't enjoy the experience and share the experience, what the hell is the experience for? Enough of that. That's Don's little philosophical bent for the moment. But man, that little male hummingbird, I'm thinking he was male. He had a little bit of color on the top of his head, but nothing else. The females are almost all gray here. Dinkiest hummingbird I've ever seen. I thought I'd share that with you. That's information, you guys, and it's trivial, it seems. We don't have to play with that a whole lot longer, but we share information on this hour, don't we? It's the tiniest of the tiniest things. If you've seen baby hummingbirds when they first fly, it's that old story. It's like if you thought chihuahuas were small, then you found out about micro chihuahuas. In this case, the flying version, by the way. Oh, yeah. It's almost a caricature. I've never seen a hummingbird that small before. Wow. And again, scripture says we're not supposed to fall in love with the world, but we can say, how does that go? Lord, how wonderful are thy works! And to witness that dinky little hummingbird coming to the feeder over the last two days has just been a little gift from God. I just thought I'd mention it. It should be able to fly like the bumblebee, but it does. You know, the weird part about that is, just as a little case in point, we don't see all of the world. There are mammals that are so small they can jump on the back of grasshoppers and bite their heads off while they're in flight. Now, I've always wanted to see one, only because that is an awfully small rodent. Wow tiny rodent, but they exist and it's amazing that for what little you know what what it takes to make life work obviously we see insects we know how small things go down microscopic, but it's just the idea that something that intricate and that tiny and that small operates just so efficiently by the way they leap from branches down into the grasshoppers and you know I'm gonna go after it keeps the locust in check by the way most people don't know that in certain places Wow Anyway, real quick here, Night Vision Technology, something that we had a question about in an email and it was, what would I make up? In other words, if I were going out, because everybody knows we've talked about MBRs, Main Battle Rifles, and preferably would use a heavy rifle for a primary, but I would point out that if you were in a situation where all you have are chipmunk guns, okay, AR-15, M16 rifles, We've also talked a lot about long-barreled ARs. My first point would be, one of the ways that I'd team up a night vision sniper team or a night vision placement shooter team, you know, spotter and shooter, would be to take something in a 20 or 23 inch or 24 inch, because there are H-bar ARs out there, guys that have longer barrels. They were tack drivers. They were built to be tack drivers. Those would be going rolling over into they wouldn't they wouldn't be left off the battlefield They just be reemployed for accuracy slash placement shooting intermediate distance. Yeah, exactly We're nice. So in other words urban areas built up areas short distance contact points heavy woods Although again see the only balance out there is you'd certainly want to use heavier bullets Which by the way the H bars are typically built for okay? Then we've got a lot of those built with flat tops. They lend themselves towards night vision technology. Would you take just the average bear and put it on your primary sniper weapon? Or would you put something better up on the roof if you could? Well, needless to say, you'd probably put something better. That was the question. If I were to mate up and I wanted to go second gen, what are the specs and what are the potentials on the lower end, but still certainly a weapons site, system second gen that I could throw on that heavy barrel? What would be out there right now, Don, that you could pull off the shelf for us? Well, I've talked about that second generation II power. Now, the biggest step up in performance in light amplification is from first to second generation, you guys. That 2-Power is plenty good for most applications, 100, 200 yards. This is the same device we've talked about, 308 capable. It'll live on top of your 223, no problem. That AR-10, no problem. You know, that M16 pattern type gun, even if it's in the semi-auto, and they re-designated the AR-10. There's your 308 right there. Even in a light platform like that, this gun sight's gonna live on top of that gun. We can jump up and down and say, hooray, because there have been a number of gun sites from manufacturers over the years. This is a gun site and you get about 20 or 70 or 120 rounds through it. It's no longer a gun site. Either the aim point fails, a lens falls out, and I'm not trying to be cynical here. I am being a little bit... But this is no exaggeration. This is a purpose-built gun site. 2nd generation 2 power. As an example, well that second generation gun sight, get your mailbox for $1,248. The manufacturer is going to get like $13.99 for it and delivery. So they're going to get $1,275 or almost $100 for it. With that in mind, that second generation gun sight to power, right in your mailbox for $1,248. My phone number is 231-796-9. Before the hour is done, I'll have the price on that for power in the same platform and it will just be the cost of the additional magnification like I promised. My number is 231796848. I need a moment Mark, I'll be right back. One of the reasons that we're bringing this up, the question had to do with how to employ night vision teams. Well, there's an interesting argument first of all in what would make up a night vision or a night movement element. in a situation where you do have at least enough night vision technology to go around. One of the things that I pointed out is battlefield pickups and utilizing whatever it is that you have in the inventory to put a piece of night vision in everybody's toolbox when the time comes. Now we can even improvise to a degree, although it would be a little more crude and rude, it's not all that bad. to actually go with a non-weapon specific night vision device and pulling it over onto the top of a weapon to at least give you the ability to see down range and then perhaps even use select fire. The issue there is you're balanced out between the modern solution of night vision goggles or a night vision monocular that's hooked up to the helmet. As we've seen that's where pretty much a lot of the technology is gone. And remember that if you do have select fire weapons, yes, they can burst fire into an area to increase probability of hit. So if you had weapon-specific, weapons-site capable night vision devices, those would be prioritized over to weapons that would allow for greater range and greater penetration whenever possible. Harder hit. If not greater penetration, at the very least, greater range with a comparable bullet. The example is rather than a two-man team at night, one of the other considerations is either a three-man strike team with two spotters or in reality flanking men. And there's a reason for this. Daylight operations you at least have some kind of peripheral control with both men. Night vision operations, one of the first things we're doing with night vision technology is we're tunneling our vision to a degree. We're pointing ourselves in a direction. So a duck foot. is preferable to a bipod here. In other words, one man left or right still leaves the other flank to be somewhat open or exposed. Now I'd go so far as to say that as long as we're deploying In a night vision configuration, the whole fire team probably should be participant anyway, and rather than sacrificing or extending or moving out a marksman slash a rifle team by itself, a two-man team, or a three-man team, integrating, much like the Russians do, and as the American Army did during Korea, taking and designating a precision rifle marksman within the team and giving the whole fire team his support. Now this is combining to include the automatic rifleman because in reality remember that the placement rifleman, the specialist, has a very specific tool in his toolbox. He's got a little better technology to draw from. So in pecking order, the squad gun and that rifleman pretty well are side by side. And as a matter of fact, this was typically the case in Russian formations for a good long time, but pretty much almost as quickly as the AK came into service. As the AK moved into service, one of the things is that either an integrated bolt-action nagot, you recognize those guys are starting to show up in surplus here, right? The Marksman's PU or whatever it is, ooh, PU. Anyway, the nagot bolt-action initially filled that niche until The overlapping inventory of SVD sniper rifles were of course available, but there's a rifle in between. And that's the Tokarev rifle, which actually paralleled the Nagat. But the Tokarev's were pretty much pulled out of marine issue as battle rifles and were moved more over towards sniper rifle configured weapons. They have a very intricate over the receiver system frame that actually fits on the weapon, much like the HK91 Hirstow brackets. You've seen those are very industrial, very complicated when you look at how they're built really as these cars. You know, for the average bear out there, these things cost money. Because they took a forged piece of steel, then machined it, and made it cooperate with the upper stamp receiver of an HK91. The Tokarev rifle fixtures were much in the same way. So this is not the first time the Germans weren't the first ones to do that. Once the SVD came into service, though, the SVD was in every squad. in every platoon in all Russian formations. In one form or another, either the SPD or progressively the retiring bolt-action or gas-operated sniper rifles were in service. They complimented each other. The squad gun would suppress. Obviously the rifleman with the scope is going to be doing selective work, watching for people who pointed things, watching for people who take their hand and put it next to their head like they're talking on the telephone, and watching for people who also have those squad automatic weapons that are trying to suppress your people while you're busy trying to suppress them. Now with the US Army it was a designated rifle marksman and even though the M1D was out there, which yes, was issued to specific personnel, and the 1903A3 in its sniper configuration was available, most people don't realize that every tenth man in a regular unit in Korea was issued a standard 1903A3 bolt-action rifle with iron sights. The purpose behind this was a closed bolt system obviously that would allow for little more energy in some ways, although the real big issue was a combination of the microband, you know, two groove, Remington barrels that had been developed, Smith Corona adopted the course and built them because that became the spec for the 1903 A3. And it became known progressively, as we've talked many times about, in Korea as it was known as the whispering death. A very different signature and a very much a placement rifle intended to reach to maximum range. Of course progressively the 03A3 straights were supplemented with or were added to the scoped rifle inventory by upgrading in the field. Guys either stole stuff out of the arsenals or stole stuff out of the armory or just paid a guy to put it on. Come on, give me a scope. I don't care what it is. Whatever you're issuing to everybody else out there, put one on mine. And so the armor in the armor van would go to town with the vice and upgrade the rifle. So it's not just the Russians that have done this. Now during night fire operations, The rifleman with the bolt gun still served the same purpose, but he had to basically rely upon observation and area control listening to small arms fire as it was actively participating in the gun battle. In other words, he's listening for the heavier grunt of a DP machine gun or a captured BAR or a Browning or a Vickers or a Lewis, whatever the Chinese might be throwing at you. And his job was to, again, focus on and develop his skill with regard to night fire precision without night vision technology. Now, take that into consideration. Even at night, the O3 riflemen, remember that pocket clips now seen down where you got the bridge crossing before they really get up into the scary part of the river. They were there during the night fire and he goes, I hear him in the wire. He goes, I hear him. You need a flare? No, I got him. Remember the guy just kind of... Sniffs the wind and he's all buzzed out and he kind of just you know angles the 40 millimeter grenade launcher You know the m79 goes poop. You know, yeah Well, just think about that with a guy with an out six See, they make that look like that was skill, but it wasn't the only person doing that. Imagine that with a rifle where you're literally thinking and calculating based upon sound projection where to put those rounds to suppress and finalize that rifle and gunner's operation. Now, I would point out that they weren't necessarily blind at night, guys. Have you ever seen a belt-fed machine gun in night fire? Kind of likes the place up, don't it? Yeah, I'm like in more ways than one. Yeah, not only putting bullets down there You don't want to get hit by but you got to remember it's a bit of a flamethrower So the rifleman then has to be able to calculate, okay, if I'm seeing that buzz, I've got that wash of flame in front of the weapon, calculate three feet back, think distance, remember scale to distance. The one other interesting thing to remember is that knowing the wash of the weapon, the flare of the weapon also helps you to gauge distance at night. These are all formulas that the old farts that were in Korea that I served with a bunch of them that they explained. These are all the parts of the math formula nobody talks about. You don't see them in movies. Everything is the Grand or the Thompson or the Grease Gun depending on what era. But the riflemen themselves working with a weapon and concentrating on precision rifle marksmanship. The Battle of the Bulge over and over again though they've tried to rewrite even that. Initially, it was acknowledged that because of the shortages, it was individual rifle marksmanship that held Bastogon because the Air Force couldn't support them. No, they were bogged in. There was a ceiling on the floor. Yeah, exactly. There wasn't any place for those planes to go, but hang around overhead and guesstimate they weren't going to be doing that. So, the fact of the matter is that in the earlier period, the attrition rate was horrible because it was still a combat situation. But it was individual rifle marksmanship that did most of the work and again combined with the grand. But the Grand wasn't the only weapon in service, and that rifle marksman's post typically was held by the 03 or the 03A3 progressively. Just something to think about there. Now moving forward into the future, again, the modern warfare, the SVD, again, an AK on steroids became the norm that everybody, of course, started to kind of wish they had, and eventually we have had variations of. With night vision technology, think about this, prioritize to that weapon first. When the Russians started to move towards passive night vision collection, because that was the age, Donna, of what's now called, with infrared, it's called Generation Zero, right? Yes. During that period, the Russians prioritized their marksman's and accuracy weapon systems for night vision technology. Pretty much all of the Warsaw Pact embraced the same concept. Again, under the guidelines of even Kalishnikov, who argued accuracy over volume fire in these particular situations because of the cost of the technology. Now times have changed yet again, but we still need to think about prioritizing where we want to put the best pieces of night vision equipment we have. That's why I'll go full circle back to the idea, even if all I had was ARs. If anybody's got, if I couldn't find an H-bar 20 inch or 23 inch weapon, you know barrel weapon, I'm going to put it on a 20 inch gun. I'm going to put it on an A1 if I can capture one, a full auto A1, not a select fire A, you know, 3 burst A2, although for night fire operations the 3 round burst is typically what you would prefer. I would remind everybody that we're giving the weapon to a senior shooter. Somebody who already has developed experience and expertise and the discipline of control, which is especially critical with all operations. And because of that, again, I would take an A1 if you could find it, because it does offer full auto select and the ability to pull a few more rounds into the target if there's a concern that, you know, again, I'm reaching, I'm going to pepper it with a few more rounds, might even dump a whole 30 round mag into an objective, it becomes a gross, close threat. Now that A1 still requires the carry handle issue. It's not going to have a flat top on it probably. So you have to have a different sight base. Still a Picatinny rail, but remember this is why in your toolbox, if you're an AR guy or if you're a unit and you've got ARs in your system, you probably have some A1, AR15s anyway. But you should have some of the carry handle rail systems in your kit. Because you never know what you're going to run into out there. Understand that a lot of, well let's put it this way, look at all the M16A1 Colt kits that have been coming in. Guys, they came from somewhere. Where did they come from? Foreign armies that have those M16A1s still in service and haven't thrown them away yet. Now, some of those foreign armies plan on being used here. You are going to see M16A1s in the earlier sandbag configuration or mildly upgraded with the newer grip system so that will fool you initially until you get close and you see the difference in the siting system. This is why it behooves you to have certain parts in the toolbox. And consider this, the China Sport copy of the carry handle AR-15A1, you know, picatinny rail is like under $10. In fact, if you look around, you'll find them for $7. Now, that's an awful nice thing to have in the toolbox, so you can take that night vision device and slap it on top of something. Oh, yeah. Just something to think about there. And again, right now I would collect picatinny rails for that reason I've been actually watching. I got a pile of stuff like this a year ago down the road where somebody just threw a whole bunch of stuff away. A big pile of stuff away. You get my drift. So you never know where you're going to run into this stuff. Now, what do I do with it? It's separated because there are a number of different applications for those rails. But at the very least I can configure whatever weapon or hopefully read refurbish a weapon if we pick it up on the battlefield It's fragged. It's why I've been talking about picking up the AK parts too, but this is a night vision I'm talking want to get into that now done the the first gen right now We know we're out of the model that we've we focused on but for our spotters left and right What do you have available that I could put in those guys hands so they could watch the rear end and the sides of that rifle marksman we just built I have a Two Power First Generation Piece. We've talked about this right in your mailbox for $205. If you want to go to a second generation piece, we're looking at what they call, I'm looking for the official designation. My biggest source of green screen, you guys, is ATN. I'm looking for what they call the, at any rate, they get They get $1,999 for it and delivery. I'll put it in your mailbox for $980 total. I'll have the name of that device for you in just a second. That's a second generation device you guys at 2.8 power actually. They call it the Knights 2.8 power. It uses a AAA battery. and I'll use this word, some goofy ideas to turn this into a gun sight. They show it on top of a bolt gun, but they don't tell you what caliber it is. But they use like a bridge or a trestle to hang it behind the daylight scope. Now you have to understand that really alters the way you address the gun. You know, you move your eye relief back from your daylight scope, the length of the device, which is almost 10 inches. Again, we've talked about this. You mentioned earlier in the hour, Mark, a device that will hang on your helmet or live on top of your M16 or be hung on your head with your headgear. That's two different situations, the headgear, hanging in that device in front of one eye, or the same device hanging from the helmet. It's not the same end result with two different... When it hangs from the helmet, it literally will go around your head, a chin strap, and the device hangs from there. It's not like, in fact, it's rather uncomfortable to wear that and then put a helmet on top. That's why they hang it from the helmet. But that night spirit, actually, they call it three power. I've called it 2.8 for a good long time. It's three power. I can get that in second generation, the standard tube, and then a second generation grade tube. But again, I'll put the original D entry-level piece which is 40 to 45 lines per millimeter. It's a fine tube in that device. It's a second generation plus tube. I'll put that right in your mailbox for $980. Now this would be a good complement to a first, second, or third generation gun sight as far as bringing a viewer to the guy stand and next to you. It is not... They say it's headgear adaptable. They actually have a picture of it headgear adaptable, but let's do it like this. Well, it's a little more than a pound. A lot of the stuff that hangs from headgear is like 9 or 12 ounces. So that actually right away. If you've been using that PVS-14, again, hangs from the headgear, hangs from the helmet. If you were to hang this from your headgear, you'd know it immediately. If you were to hang it from your helmet, you'd say, man, that's a hunk of metal out there in front of my head. This goes back over to the right tool for the right job or trying to make one thing do everything. We've talked about this before. This is a great viewer, you guys, the night spirit and 3 Power with a second generation 2-minute right in your mailbox for $980. We could go back to that first generation viewer, you guys, 3 Power right in your mailbox, $205. I've got the price on the on the gun site at verify this. The 2-power gun sight in second generation right in your mailbox for $1,248. The power cost me $81 more. And that brings that total to $1,329. Night arrow, second generation gun sight, $308 capable. My cost on the upgrade to 4-power, and I just turn that right around to you, instead of the 2-power at $0.048, power would go right into your mailbox at 1381. If you're looking to move up in magnification, here's a caveat there. We've talked about this in daylight and night sights. You don't get a great big field of vision in a piece of night vision. As an example, you'd think that a two-power daylight scope or a daylight sight, man, in 2 power in daylight you might get 30 or even maybe 45 degrees of field of view out of that. When we go to 2 in the night vision device you're looking at 17 degrees field of view. When we go to 4 power you guys that's 1.5 degrees field of view. When we go to 6 power, 5 degrees field of view. Now at 5 degrees field of view you're going to have, unless something is farther away, you're going to have a bit of a hard time trying to get any kind of lead in. It's good to have the magnification for something that's not moving real fast. That's this in a number of ways, both in daylight and night vision fields of view. The bigger the field of view, the more lead you can put into that running anything else, be it on the ground or in the air. We haven't brought that up in a little while. But again, you guys, the 2-power, $1,248 right in your mailbox, that has a 17 degree field of view. That'll give you a quicker that will allow you to acquire targets quicker, to build a structure there. That will allow you to acquire targets faster. That 7.5 degrees field of view of the 4 power, 7 and a half is 15, so that's 2 degrees more to get to that. So it's less than half of the field of view of the 2 power. Now it's almost three inches longer. Hooray! We've talked about this for years. The tube power, the front lens, the focal lens, is the same size as the tube of the body. The body diameter power, hooray! Gets a bigger front lens. The sixth power gets even bigger front lens and is even longer by almost four inches. And we've talked about this. a good long time now you guys. If you're going to go with more magnification, it's better to go with a bigger lens instead of more elements of glass. Because the less elements of glass, the less hunks of glass you put in front of the night vision tube, the image intensifier tube, in order to create magnification, the less glass that is there, the more light reaches the tube. The way to do that is to adapt in, mold in, machine into the body, the ability to carry a bigger front lens so you gather more light compensating for the greater magnification. But we've got 2, 4 and 6 power in that night arrow in second generation you guys. If you want to go up to third, now third generation in two powers going right around, I'm thinking I could go to my numbers but I'm thinking right around $3,200 you guys for it. Now this is a .50 caliber capable piece and that's what the The company offers no lower-end generation device right now, but that's bragging in the industry. This piece of that Mars 4 in 2 power, 4 in the second generation, I'm sorry, the company wants $2,399 for it, and that's the second generation. Under that's $1,000 more than and plus what I can offer the generation night arrow that's .308 capable. Now, if you want to go up to a third generation in a .50 caliber capable device, you guys, the company wants $3,599 for it, probably at $33.25 right in your mailbox. $33.25 right in your mailbox for a power generation .50 caliber capable green screen guns sight. That's a lot of pop bottles, I know it, but you know, that's a few hundred dollars almost. Well, do the math. That's that much less, almost 10% less than what the manufacturer will sell it to you for. I continue in this, we're just throwing out numbers, but you guys, the point Mark's trying to make here is supporting the riflemen. And it talked about this in so many different ways, but a team that can look in more than one direction at any given time is going to be more than twice as strong. It's a force multiplication thing right inside there, right inside that team. If you're going into the field and you've got the gun sight and the guy with you doesn't have any type of night vision, you know what? He's real immediate area security if it's dark out. He's not going to look down into that valley that's shaded with trees and say, I think there's 20 of them or 40 of them down there because all that will be hidden to his natural eye unless he's that one in a million you talk about Mark who can be as good at night as he can in the day. Wow. That's the guy, if you don't have another piece of night vision, that's the guy you want supporting the night vision guy with the rifle scope. But then again, that is like one in a million, isn't it? Well, we can finish this thought line. My number, if you want to talk about night vision, is 23179-8458-231. Go ahead. What you got? I was just wondering if the package has arrived. Okay. And it's been there prior to tonight? Yes, just yesterday. Okay, so you've been out in the dark, huh? Yes, I haven't had a chance. I can't wait to get a hold of it. But, man, I was really surprised with the packaging and everything. The bag that comes with it is awesome. It's a nice shade of green. It's got a strap. I was kind of wondering how it was going to carry it into the blind, but it's all set up. It is, isn't it? Yes, it's great. I was like, wow, look at all this. There's a lot of extras there. Yes. I haven't pointed that out, but thanks for pointing that out. Mark, you've talked a number of times about removing a piece of night vision and just falling back to the daylight platform. If you have to do that, that's a good bag to put that in, isn't it? Unless you're going into caves or bumping around in armor or crawling all the time. That's a pretty good storage place for it, isn't it? Oh yeah. If you're in a position where you've got your day scope on and all of a sudden it starts to get in late, It's easy enough to just pop off your day scope and put on your nights because you could even put a small little socket driver for the right size just to give it a quick torque. Once you've got it to the right place and you set that crossbar, that locking mechanism in the same slot over and over, you pay a little attention to laying it up to the rail. As you roll folded over to run the clamp side, you'll be within an inch at 100 yards. That's pretty good, really. Yeah. We've addressed this before. It's not like you're stacking a front ring and then a back ring onto a rail and then you lay the tube in there then you put the Caps on and then you start tightening things down. There's so many different variables there You're never going to get a repeatable zero from that if you want that repeatable zero from your daylight scope by a solid base So the rings come right out of that base one piece mount your daylight scope to that and then you'll experience that elusive Item almost like a unicorn in the gun world a repeatable zero because, you know, 20 years ago there weren't one-piece bases. 30 years ago for certain there weren't one-piece bases for your daylight scope. Everybody had to do that sequence. And every time you take a ring off and put it back on, it's ever so slightly in a different place. But when you lay that long rail up against the long rail that's on the bottom of the gun sight, up against the long rail that's on the top of your gun, And that crossbar, that locking bar, goes back into the same slot that it came out of when you achieved your zero. That's another thing to pay attention to. So you get the same eye relief, but you get the same zero. I just thought I'd mention it again. Hey, thanks, Tex-Mex, for bringing that up. Yeah, the bag is well padded. It's even got on the inside. What's interesting is the inside of the bag has got an extra strapping system with Velcro so that it won't be rallying around in there. Right. Right. Yeah. It's really well thought out. I'm really pleased with it. I can't wait. I mean, you came with batteries. I even like that. Yeah. I know. I'm dreaming. All right, you guys take it easy, all right? Thank you. All right. Very good. And for all our friends out there, again, remember, Don has the technology in hand. Once you guys have got it, give us a little feedback. That's what we like to hear. That way, if you see something that's picking your interest, also remember something. The guys that are making this stuff like to hear the feedback too, because maybe you have an idea for something. So give Don a call if you've got something that, hey, why don't they do this instead of this? Don can call the company and say, hey, you know, one of your operators here just bought one of your scopes, has an idea. You never know. You might change the design or change something in the package because, hey, we never thought of that. And that is something you need to speak up about, guys. I'm serious. Over and over again, we've had this happen. And some companies don't listen to their customers. It's true, but it's amazing when you have a specialized niche. Deep back is a good thing. Yeah, exactly. They can use that. You'll notice a couple of these young guys that have been doing magazines for the oddball weapons out, they got the right idea. They started asking everybody, well, we did these. Remember they did the VEPRA 308 mags. They said, what should we do next? They actually said to the customers, hey, what do you think we need next? And they'll make it, and they'll follow through on it. That's the kind of work we need to see done. Because, you know, it's like a lot of the other firearms and weapons systems and equipment that's out there. You know, there's things were done in a certain way because the solution was found. But there may be a better solution, and that's why there's an A model, B model, C model, D model. Sometimes it's not necessarily a solution. Sometimes it's somebody bean counting and cutting back. You know, I've talked about that. But in this situation, if you have anything where you need feedback, or should say if you have something that you can introduce, it may be a solution that they will be very, very happy with. Anyway, a couple of things going on. We're almost at the top of the hour here. Well, I don't want to go away from that completely, because we mentioned the team idea. And I want to emphasize again, Left, right, okay, well it might also not hurt, and this is why we talk about we're to the point where we're looking at a fire team. All points of the compass security is another issue, and especially if you have a rifleman with a sophisticated piece of equipment on the roof and he's a primary delivery system at night, then all points of the compass security, left, right, and to the rear, comparably, is a good idea. The fire team then supports one of those men out of the four is going to be carrying a squad gun remember and one of them is a fire team leader which probably will be your rear security that would be of course an option. At the point of contact when you're actually engaging while the fire team leader might take over if there's a question typically the man who is the shooter is going to be making the decisions about contact and engagement. It's his job. It's what he does. It's kind of like, you know, the pilot flies the plane. But when we get to the objective, you might recall in all those movies, you know, the pilot goes, she's all yours, Hal. Don, who's he talking to? He's talking to the guy down there in the nose, leaning over that northern bombsite. He's talking to the bombardier who actually flies the plane. And he's tweaking the controls, isn't he? Yes, he is. He's actually flying the plane during the final run. See, so that's basically the best way to explain it to everybody. Yes, the fire team leader has authority, but the fire team leader acknowledges the skills and the particular mission of individuals within the team. Example, that's squad gunner. In the event that they were in contact, the squad gunner has a particular mindset and way that he is a pecking order that he's supposed to use for making contact with and suppressing with his weapon. That is the purpose behind a squad gunner. And that doesn't mean he doesn't, you know, aim to shoot and kill. But his purpose of nothing else is if he sees a threat he can put rounds into a target area that can keep an aggressor from threatening either cohabitating units, other fire teams, or his own members within both the fire team and the squad, which is made up of two fire teams. Yes. Go ahead, jump in there. I'd like to draw up a peril again. You guys might seem boring or redundant, but I'm going to draw it from that, Forktail Devil, the Martin Caden book about the P-38. The 475th group flew into a hornet's nest of Japanese fighters one day. This was the only purely P-38 squadron in any theater. They flew in with like 18 planes. They shot down like 20-some planes that day and came home five planes less. They thought that was a defeat. They felt like that was a defeat to them. They lost five men that day, even though they shot down 20-some planes or 19-some planes or some big, big number. Now, you wonder where we're going, but you know what? If you've got a team with a gunner and a man looking... If you have a team of four pieces of night vision and the compass points, so to speak, there's no excuse for that team to go home, go out, and not come home every night. Not come home every night. All the doors are open. All the venues for escape are being watched. Appreciate that. See where we're going? It's good to be survivability, but it's better to live it, isn't it? A great number is down from your enemy, but if your friends don't come point here. And remember again guys, there's a reason for each tool in the toolbox. Take the time to develop the skill to understand how best it will apply. how it will work for you. The one thing we were talking about here is how to employ, for instance, the teams. For the platoon leader, the company commander, the battalion commander, when engaging larger formations. Remember that these skill-based groups can be applied in very specific ways to extract you from a problem or to emphasize and enhance your offensive capability. Now what do I mean by extract you from a problem? An accurate rear guard team of two fire teams are usually quite a bit, it's a hold back system. With a rifleman that knows what he's doing and putting rounds where they need to be, especially if he has the technology to support it, a couple of riflemen or a couple of men with the proper skill can hold back any number of men. The Germans successfully did this. Most people don't realize the technique in an assault operation where they might be extracting or, say, rescuing another unit on the ground. The rear guard consisted typically of two men. with as much firepower as they could carry. But also these individuals tended to be experienced veterans that had served with these weapons, understood their potential, and used them like a surgical scalpel. Much like in World War II, the riflemen became the rescuers of the militia time and time again because most units were suffering not suffering, but they had to carry muskets. It was the more common weapon of the day. The riflemen were the surgeons that could come in, place fire was needed, and allow units to extract themselves from contact with superior force. Rear guard units do the same thing. Night vision rear guard units perform the same action. A fire team that develops that skill is not something you waste or squander. Not that we waste or squander any of our men, but we surgically use the tools that we have at our disposal. Developing that skill on a wider basis allows for you to rotate personnel into that task. But I found something to be true just like point men. Some people like being point men. People, I know that even have been veterans, been in two wars. I will tell you flat out, I just prefer being a point man. Why? I see the threat. Now, the important thing is if I see the threat and get out of the way, I'm more worried about number two man and number three behind me because they might be slower than I am. And that's what they should remind you. They might not even be in a place to see the threat, yeah. Yeah, they saw it. And the problem is the other guy might not if he's becoming a little dependent or lackadaisical. The same is true with night vision expertise and fire teams used for a rear guard extraction. The idea is to place fire, to create casualties, and to maintain confusion. Now, anytime you do extractions or withdrawals, High explosive devices are your friend. They create more confusion. Black smoke, something that you might recall. We've talked about this and brought it up for a while. Everybody was like, well, if they've got black smoke, I wouldn't do any good during the day. No, but it would do you a lot of good at night. At night, it just looks like your night vision is one huge shadow. One, like more black. No information. More night, more darkness, more night. No information. And then think about this, now in any situation, especially with a fire team, there's a grenadier mixed in there somewhere. Now a grenadier may be no more than a person with a bag of grenades, guys. You may not have or you want them to be swallowed today, you gotta have a damn 203. Well, you don't. You know what? You got a bag of grenades. Congratulations, you're a grenadier. That's the traditional grenadier. You ever seen the chess pouches made in World War I? I have a pile of them. They used to come by the bail, guys. They made so many of these for World War I. It's an 11 pocket assault vest. It just ties onto the front like a Chinese AK chess pouch. You actually, SKS rounds fit quite nicely in these. But that was for a grenadier, an assault grenadier. And the idea behind that is that you carried that many more grenades plus another bag full and you picked up more off the enemy corpses as you went. But your job was to literally within whatever goods throw an arm you got and the skill you developed, the idea is for you to dump a grenade where it needs to be to put the bad guys down. To suppress. Now that works in reverse order. And again also applying smokes. While everybody in the team will carry smokes, our policy is we carry three flares 3 ground illumination devices and 3 smokes at least. That's minimum combat load for all my people, everybody that works with me. And all of us. But we typically will carry more, but that's a minimum standard. That's a minimum and again what guys remember it because well, how could you afford that? What's real easy? Emergency flares guys emergency boat flares they are out there still if you look around most of you guys down in Texas at the advantage You're on the Gulf of Mexico say with Florida, Mississippi, and Alabama so more illumination more smoke different types of smoke Colored smoke you're familiar with but dark colored If I can't run black smoke at night, my next choice would be green. Why? Green screen. Think about it. Need we say more? What's he looking through? Green screen. And this is something where, again, guys, these tools are part of how you apply for both extraction and to create deceptions during assault. This way you can come back tomorrow and hammer them some more. And do it again. And do it again. And do it again. And eventually, well how long are we going to do this until they come back? Yeah, no more. They're done. We finished them up. Anyway, we are almost at the top right now. Don, your number for night vision, you'll be available in just a few minutes. Hey, that number is 2317968458231, 7968458. Thank you. If you could take the time to look at what our goal is, you can see where we are. It's transparent. If you can donate, please do it today or whenever within the next few days if you've got a paycheck, take the time. A dollar per month would be great. This is a yearly bill. If you could donate one dollar for every month you've been listening, that helps. Every little bit helps. We'll get to our goal. I'm confident of that if everybody just keeps pitching in. We should be hearing the music in a moment from Edward. We are at the top. Yes. I'm queuing him up there so to speak because I know he's not too far away. Another thing here real quick, guys, again this weekend coming up we've got a couple of special construction projects that have to be met. Also, at the Ogama Ranges, the long range is not closed down for the whole weekend, but they will be closed down for part of Saturday. They had no choice. They've got to go out with some heavy machinery. They're going to move an obstacle and reconfigure a few things, and then re-sod everything back up. Remember this all, we've never changed the terrain anymore and you have to. But they're getting ready for the rainy season because we've already had a lot of wet, and they're seeing something that we don't want to He exacerbated with more moisture in the fall. You know fall is coming and then there'll be the fall rains. Oh boy. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the runt. But we are on the march both day and night. Rock, you give them a slice, beat them down so hard they wish to god they'd never showed up. And night fire operations guys as a fire team. as a rifle team however you're going to configure remember buddy system each man has a job you gotta follow through Don give out your number a couple more times night vision technology will be available in just a minute. Hey that number is 2317-96-8458 repeat 2317-96-8458 thank you Mark God bless you God bless you America. Why is the sky blue? Why don't animals talk? Why do dogs have wet noses? Why is an 11 pronounced 1-2-1? Kids ask a lot of questions. Why do I have a belly button? But you don't have to know every answer. Why is the ocean salty? Because you don't have to be perfect to be a perfect parent. Why are there 50 states? There are thousands of children in foster care who don't need every question answered. Why is peace around? They just need you. For more information on how you can adopt, go to adoptuskids.org. A public service announcement from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Adopt U.S. Kids and the Ad Council. He met a tattoo to the future Was wad into a place they both could pour Work at the door, guitar and tautums The sky was headed from the leather jacket Had chains that were jingled They both met movie stars, partied in the future Was wad