August 12, 2014
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1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke discussed preparedness, communications technology, and military surplus vehicles available through county auctions. He fielded a call from George about acquiring surplus radio equipment and Dodge M880 military trucks from a Texas county sale, providing detailed advice on evaluating fleet vehicles, negotiating bulk purchases, and repurposing older military equipment for border security and community defense. The episode included extensive commentary on vehicle maintenance, the superiority of older military vehicles over newer models, and criticism of government waste and inefficiency in procurement and fleet management.
- communications technology
- military surplus
- dodge m880 trucks
- county auctions
- preparedness
- radio equipment
- fleet vehicles
- border security
- vehicle maintenance
- government waste
- humvee
- bradley fighting vehicle
- m60 tank
- abrams tank
- supply chain
- tactical vehicles
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But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free and home? And good evening, ladies and gentlemen, this is the evening intelligence report time, R. Kornke. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on... LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio.com, we're on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third and fifth pit and our friends in the recall state of Colorado. Waving the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson, we turn back to the east sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and land in the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams in the Maville Grandma Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the golden spike. Many hands make for light work. And it is Well, it's a beautiful evening, light still out there, but sun is getting ready to set. It is just a little bit past the top of the hour here. We're looking at, let's see, one, two, three, oh my goodness, we've got so many days left to August. It is the, the date is the 12th of August. It is the sixth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with the K 2014. older calendar or Nostradamus calendar. We're all gonna die. It's worse than that. We're dead Jim. We're dead Jim. We're dead Jim. It's worse than that. Good old Nostradamus. Notre Dame-us. That football coach from the upper part of Indiana and also a football team. Yeah he just told us we're all gonna die so well we're just might give up the ghost and just flop over on our backs and let them kick us in the crotch. What the heck? It's just the end. Well, I'm not really listening too much to Notre Dame us there slash Nostradamus, you know, Temple of Doom. However, we are paying attention to the environment, the situation, the way it stands, and we're doing our part to bring everybody up to speed with regard to the other technologies that are out there that need to be taken care of and that includes signal communications because today is communications too. So, for all of our friends, if you can, take the time and check out our page. Don't forget that we have, of course, part of communications, keeping your internet up and online. We have a one year bill. We have to take care of it each year for the 12 months. We have posted what the goal is on the page and we are also posting what we are collecting in the way of donations. So if you want to take the time, go to www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. If you'd like to help and contribute to keep us up and online. Then to do that, we need to achieve our goal. So go to www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. Right in the middle of the page, you can use PayPal. Whatever system you want to, of course, donate. One of the questions, suggestions is if you could, maybe if you're listening year round, a dollar for every month that you listen. That's $12 in donation. If everybody contributes, we can make it happen. Do we have Don with us? We obviously have a lot of people connecting. And I'm curious about whether or not Don is able to get in or not. Ed might want to just spot check and see what's going on with Don. I would be curious about this because we have other people that are hooking up to the chat room effortlessly guys. Has everybody noticed this? Let me just ask anybody who's listening right now. I've heard a number of dings. We actually did. We've had to dump the conference line twice since we started. I've been trying to fix it. I can't call in myself. I do see we've got a couple of people in there right now, but that problem is still persisting. Okay, so in other words, it's been reduced or at least load or capacity has been reduced in some way. Probably not an accident guys. Remember we do have Don trying to get in so eventually he may be able to plug in, he may not. In fact there's a ding, do we have Don? And we probably have a patient listener which is not a problem. Signal Communications, I had posted this in the chat room earlier, 409shop.com, 409shop.com, another Chinese electronic company. a new dad company, there's a lot of them out there, but they have different resources. Some have overlapping technologies, that's very true. But in addition, they have other stuff. One company has different material from the other, depending upon, well, their background, what they've done in the past, etc., etc. So I would remind everybody again, that you take the time and check out that particular company because you never know what they're going to have that might finally fit that niche that, you know, I've been looking for it fill in the blank and you finally found it. Well, it's a miracle. Well, that's true. It may be a miracle. Pretty close to it anyway. So if you can take the time and plug in and then let us know what you think about what it is that's out there and about that's available because again the repeaters, there's a whole section for just repeaters for pretty much everybody's equipment that's out there. So if you're looking for solutions, there are solutions there on the page at www.409shop.com. dot com okay and again pretty reasonably priced for a lot of the stuff that's there you'll have to look to see what it is that may or may not be useful for you and once you get through the page if there's anything in particular jumps out that maybe I missed which is not hard because there's items well because there are thousands of items available you just never know what we're going to be running into and I would highly recommend you take time plug-in and check it out So that's www.409shop.com. The other site, of course we've mentioned many times, is dealextreme.com. Wide variety of technology, consumer electronics especially is interesting, and then go to again Other consumer electronics you can get to the micro fm stations that are available and you really can't beat them for the price Check them out. Go ahead. We got all right Don was trying to call in he is getting the same message that you're Larry is having the same problem Larry is trying to call in And do we have Larry is that you I'm guessing not. Interesting, so we're having a problem with the uh... With the conference line. Yeah, I was sitting here watching my control panel. I saw three people with the same name and number on it one time, so I hung up and disconnected everything. Did you guys hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Yeah, listen Mark, I got in okay. I guess. Well, we got in. Terrible beeping. Is that your unit or is that something in the line? Uh oh. I'm just on my phone, I'm on my truck, I got everything turned off. Is that better? No, it's interesting. I'm hearing it. No, it's a squeak. It's actually coming up over the system. Yeah, I'm going to mute you up for now, Mark. Hopefully it'll clear up. OK. And again, for everybody out there, we are again experiencing, we've been experiencing random, but not so random. It's almost like systematic through the different, well, if Mark's muted up, that's something else, Ed. That's right. I just needed him. There we go. Okay, very good. Real quick here again, just a reminder if you do Well, hopefully we can get Larry in here first of all 7 1 2 4 3 2 0 9 0 0 and then the room number is 9 5 7 4 6 Do we have Larry there try it again Larry star 6 I just muted and unmuted him. If that's Larry. It's a nonny mouse. Rather interesting, we're getting that strike pip like, uh, you know, we're getting a... Dad, I just muted that caller. If that's you, Larry, call back in. All we're hearing is loud pings. And I just heard sound like a hang up, so that may have been him. Okay, well, we're trying. And again, it is Communications Tuesday. This is an example of why we need alternate technologies on standby. It's demonstrating by example what we've been saying about having other technology ready to roll and we need to be prepared for that. So for everybody out there listening, take the time, plug in and go to these different sites, 409shop.com, dealextreme.com. Also, you can go to DX for dealextreme.com, www.dx.com. fairradio.com take the time plug in and Check out their site for microphones radio rigs parts and pieces both military and commercial aviation communications technology 2 meters 6 meter CB commercial CB Government, remember CB government slash the original CB frequency radios. Little different situation there. Oh, you may or may not know much about those. Anyway, the technology is out there. It is available and when you take advantage of it, but especially to be on standby for when the feces hits the oscillating device, as they say. Mark. Go ahead. We got George here. What do you got? Well, I did find out there were two media radios that were from the 1980s. I did grab four of them. Oh, very good. And the antennas too. So are they car mounted units or are they base units? They're car mounted. Okay, well it's not a problem. They can be made in a base. All you have to do is just put a bracket on the table anyway. There's no different ways to do that, but you can use a mobile unit as a base radio. You just have to have a power supply for it. and 12 volt wall warts aren't that difficult to find laying around. So 12 volt power supply is what you need. Also got that county vehicle. I went and rented a U-Haul tow thing. I just pulled it into the yard. Yeah, okay, cool. And I found a guy who does transmission who's about seven years old who knows how to fix these things. Well, if he's been around for a period of time, like I said, three on the tree, once you got it, once you got that going, it's actually a lot more convenient. for speed shifting. Plus again, most of your utility work if you're just traveling, I mean come on, you're not going to be downshifting or upshifting very much with road work, I mean regular road work, cross-country stuff, a little different story if you have to start working the trans and the clutch. But otherwise, what's the rest of the rest? No rust, in a pretty good condition? Well, there's a little bit of rust like down on the bottom because when they had snow here like that, Before I came here, a couple of winters before I came here, they put that rock salt down and it corrode the vehicle a little bit underneath. A little, yeah, but nothing like we get up here. It's maybe got a little bit of rust. That rust, what I do is take care of it right away. You can't stick your hand through whole body parts. Right? Right? Yeah, it's got a little surface rust on it, right? Like surface rust, rusty areas. Yeah, okay, start working on that right away and you'll stop it. You're in an area where you don't see that much in the way of any kind of cold weather or salt issues. And here's the other trick is start looking at undercoating the running areas where you're going to get beat with stones and stuff because that's what usually, again, the bare metal is what really starts to cook. And down there you've got your dry environment constantly. It's like running sandpaper to a degree. Go ahead. Well, the good thing about this truck, it already had the mounts for the radio and the antenna already in it. And in my car I poked the other radio up to a cigarette lighter to cut the wires that plugged into the cigarette lighter. Exactly. Yeah, that's cool. And the other guy... And I tested all the radios and they're all good. Excellent. Are they programmable or are they pre-set frequency? They have four channels. Cool. Okay, they're pre-set. They have four specific designated channels and they work. Yeah, they're just collecting dust. How much were they in a unit again? How much did you pay per radio? How much I paid for four of them? $20. Do they have any more? Oh, you might have some friends and allies around there that might think that would be a good idea because you can be talking to each other. So you can get all those radios off the shelf. At the very least, when they become disinterested, then you can afford to pick them up from them. Yes. If they decide to go goofy. Go ahead. Like I said, but the county, they got so much waste in storage. They just want to get rid of it because it costs more to store it than stuff. Well, what else did they have laying around? Oh, they got rafts. Just about anything, Mark. What kind of prices are we talking, though? Well, I didn't really get a chance. I just was focused on getting those radios. That's about it. Well, the thing is, always look through. Did you go through the whole site, check to see what else they had laying around? Yes. Like I say, I just glanced. I seen boats and stuff like that, tarp. Radio equipment? Yes. Even generators. No, generators might be interesting because they might be older iron block American rigs. It might not be as quiet, but they run forever like a brick doghouse. I gotta say, but one thing I forgot to ask for, but if you get a manifest of what is for sale, they got a list. Oh, well, do they have a website? They might probably even have it on computer. That's how they generate the list. Yeah, I can look at that. In fact, you ought to see if they have any web gear military items like that laying around because typically places like that get stuff from the government like I've been talking about and they kind of pile it up and then somebody thinks they've got a, you know, Ford has a better idea so they go to something else. I would definitely go back and get that because you just never know what's going to be in those dusty boxes that you thought were one thing but in reality or something else. But you know one thing that's still in the county yard too is back when Chrysler was to go bankrupt in I think in the early 1980s and they had those K cars and those Dodge trucks. Right. The county bought a bunch of them too. Wait a minute, they have a bunch of Dodge Ram trucks? Yeah. How much do they want to... Like I said, I seen them in the yard and they didn't ask for the question, have I seen them? Okay, are they in pieces or are they all in one piece or what? They're all in one piece. don't know if they run or not. Well, Dodge Ram truck 318 standard single-billed carburetor if they bought the military package. No pollution gear although probably those do if they're fleet trucks. Otherwise standard Chrysler everything and those are a pretty good beater military truck. How many of those do you think they have? About 16. Of the trucks? Yeah. All the same paint job or are they mixed colors or what? Not all white pickup trucks. Perfect. So they would look great with with NIS on the side and a number and a stake back with dummy troops in the back seats on the back of the truck and with a number on the side of the truck and one guy driving around and on the border and have a small fleet of them. How much how much are they asking per truck for those? That I don't know. Get me a price on that as quickly as you can. I even seen K cars. K cars are okay, but K cars are not as critical. The Dodge trucks are straightforward. They're rear wheel drive, maybe even four wheel drive, depending on what they bought. If it's a two wheel drive, it's the M890. If it's the four wheel drive, it's the M880. Well, when I had to Dodge Crackerbox ambulance, the problem I had was the blackout drive. Right, well the other problem when we first got we first got the one most memorable point of the Dodge M880s now you got to remember this is the 70s We got the brand new Dodges in while they were new for us, but they were only a few years old but they were brand new these actually were out of the fleet so they were brand new and The guys grabbed the keys they what they walk out to the parking lot they stick the key into the lock and the whole lock and tumbler goes right into the door and Falls off inside So he looks at the key and he goes like, oh man! So he goes around on the other side and immediately does the exact same thing that he did with the first one and the lock and tumbler fall into the door and now you can't get in. Well, we've got to get a coat hanger. That was our first experience with the brand new Dodge Ram M880s was the safety system. Now beyond that, when it's new out of the box, they work just fine just like any other vehicle. Chrysler Electronics, as far as their wire harness goes, has always been questionable on its best day. I still like Dodges, I just like the looks of most of the Chrysler's anyway. To me they always looked more like they were running down the road sitting rather than most of the other vehicles which were like slug sitting there. They actually had cool lines to them, at least a little contour. The big thing is those Dodge trucks because it's a fleet. Here's the two things I want you to do. Number one, ask them how much you want for the truck. One of those Dodges. Now here's the thing you do George, after you ask about one, what if I were to take them all? Okay? That's how you ask them. How much do you want for one of those? And then they'll give you a price. And then it's okay, what if I take them all? And I'd like a quote. That's something you can do. I'm not interested in the K cars right now. Of course down there, the only thing that's really going to mess them up is just mechanical running or just age. Otherwise, K car was not a bad car. Well, Mark, you know the thing is our sheriff's department got two M-Rats and guess what? Both of them are in the shop because they said one had electronic problems. Yep, we already told everybody about that. Yeah, okay. What was wrong with the other one? Oh yeah, well that's part of the, remember there's a write-up that somebody did, remember if you pop the right components, she goes into negative lock, she goes into positive lock, and that's as far as the vehicle goes. It's a safety feature with regard to the engine pack. That was brought up in a write-up. Everybody was warned about this. You know, they were, oh my god, the MRAPs! Well, here's the thing, there's a couple of issues. Number one, they went with the punkiest diesel engine they could in the industry. It's got all kinds of problems and it was a dog but they made lots of them so they bought the dog engine and then on top of that they've got all kinds of other safety features so they don't blow the engine up but the problem is it locks you in the kill zone. If something goes wrong you're going to stay right there. The ABS sensor don't work very well. Well George, can you take pictures George with a smartphone and sit on the market especially those Those power wagons, man, those things are like gold. I mean, uh... Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because I don't care if they have a tip bit of rust. Like, you know, we live in Michigan, where rust is part of the middle word for all automobiles, okay? We're in the rust belt. So, what they call a lot of rust down there is some surface ding down towards the bottom because somebody didn't clean out the mud in the bottom of the quarter panels. Up here, that would be considered 15 minutes, a little bit of grinding, a little bit of putty or lead. And congratulations, she gets repainted. Because those Dodge trucks are a very user friendly vehicle for fleet operations for military use and we've got lots of them in our units already. Go ahead. Well, it sounds like that was a pretty cool, what's this thing, George? Some kind of an auction or something? It's County Sales. It's just direct sales. It's like we have University of Michigan and we have the same way. You can buy direct without having to bid on anything, right? Cool. I gotta say, it's just sitting in storage. Well, now did you wander the parking lot? Did they have any trailers? Did they have any old military vehicles lying in the back end? That I cannot say, but all that stuck out was the white trucks. Well, go through there because all these places, here's the thing, the white trucks are probably fleet truck purchases from the early 80s. Those were an extension of the M880 truck package, but they're probably the snow commander. Now, they may not have the fleet version of the Snow Commander, but the Snow Commander is progressively when they introduced the M880, which is the Dodge Ram 5 quarter ton military truck, its counterpart was the Snow Commander. And what that was was all the basic military package minus the 24 volt support system, which was on the rider side of the vehicle under the hood. The everything else is the same virtually identical. They're really cool And if it's if it's if it's a fleet vehicle, it's minimized on everything probably doesn't even have dash radios But if it does that's cool if it doesn't I don't care Personally, it probably puts something else in the dash radio slot. Anyway, like a communications rig, you know something that we use Go ahead. Nobody but do check on the individual price of those see what they want per truck and then say what if I were to buy them all What kind of price can you give me on those? Well, the thing is, the other problem was, I had my son come with me tugging on my shirt saying, I've got to go to the bathroom, I'm thirsty. Well, okay, first of all, it's a really bad combination. I've got to go to the bathroom and thirsty implies that somebody is drinking their urine. So I would remind him that, no, you either have to go to the bathroom or you're going to drink. See how that works? Okay. But that's what he was nagging me with. Well then, you should be taking bottled water with you and think in advance so you don't end up with that situation. One bottle is empty and that's your portable urine facility. The other one is a water bottle. Don't confuse them. And certainly don't make up lemonade before you go. Which makes it more likely that you'll have confusion. Try and get some shots at your smartphone, George. I'll give you pictures and send it to Liberty Tree Radio. Photographs have really helped because, although I'm not worried, I mean like I said, Texas trucks I've bought before, it's just been a long time ago. Years ago, we had a chance to buy the fleet vehicles out of Nevada. And I was trying to find out more about what was going on with that, with the Bundy Ranch thing, because They used to come out in lumps and in fact there were a bunch of things for sale when the Bundy siege was going on but they weren't the items, you know, they were some items that were useful but I don't know if anybody followed up and checked on them. But trucks out there in Nevada went for $45 a piece at the auction. I was paying $65 to $85 out there they were going because nobody would bid on them because they had piles of them and they were all running but they were $45 a piece for Dodge M880s and Cuckvies. Mark, do you think if I could buy a few of these trucks, you think I could trade them all for one good, perfectly running, conditioned Army Jeep? I wouldn't want one if I had the Dodge Ram truck. If you had those Dodge trucks, I wouldn't switch out from that. I'd use that Dodge truck. Seriously, the Jeeps are interesting, but they don't. In order for the Jeep to be useful, you've got to have a trailer. I mean for most of what you're doing because basically then it's the Jeep trailer handles the cargo load, the Jeep itself is the people mover. Now it doesn't mean you don't have weapons and support equipment on board but again people don't usually think this way and when they buy a Jeep even if they buy one of those little four door versions they've got now which is like an extended Jeep commander or whatever. Commandos, they got another name for the new one, but they used it in the Terminator, the last Terminator movie they started one which was a miracle. The cars have been sitting around for 15 years but all the gasoline lit right up after they've been sitting for how long? Anyway, the problem is even with those you still only have so much stowage space and it's stowage space that's the issue. And so you've got to think tactical going out and being able to drop the trailer just like again a big guy can be if you can do it with a pickup truck but with a pickup truck you just take everything with you and keep going and still if you need be at a trailer. I was thinking about using the Jeep as an easy way to do your hunting. I know. I'm talking, I'm serious. I wouldn't even bother. Either the pickup truck or a civilian version down where you are. I've been looking at all these stupid videos. People have got Jeep, four-wheel drive, four-door Cherokees and stuff that are from the 80s and 90s because they think they're just junk. They're wrecking stuff that has no rust up here. We just put that in a malicious service. And people got more money in brains because they're wrecking stuff like that left and right. The military Jeeps are nice, but they're not that good. They're not that critical. One five one four months we got a fleet of them but I'm not going on my way to find more and spend top dollar on them. It's not worth it. That Dodge truck is worth more kitted out as a combat vehicle the way it is. Well Mark, there's even dicey only see one truck and that was a Dodge but it was a tool truck but it had the tool. That would be worthwhile too because if I got a fleet of trucks I'd have one truck like we've done in the past. I'd get the tool truck, I'd put all my spares on board, and it would be a mobile shop to work on my Dodge trucks. That's what I was curious about. What do they have? How many are there? Find out. Let us know. Because the economy is soft. And obviously, if the stuff is still sitting, the question is why is it still sitting? You see what I mean? Down where you are, those are considered old junk trucks. Up here, or anywhere else where I'd be around, that's what I drive. None of my cars are newer than 20 years old. Nothing. I'm driving that fact truck, the truck and the car are both 20 years old. I wouldn't have any problem driving that Dodge all day, every day, but on the other hand, like we're talking about deploying down the border, this is what I'm talking about. You could put an entire fleet on the road, deploy people down there and equipment down there. We could do it for pennies and shut the border down. and there's an example of it. They've got resources all around, they're sorry asses and they're not getting up off their dead hind end and do jack squat. It's an example of the whole problem, this whole system is all it is, is they're looking for a stinking money tit so they can buy one big ticket item and then hide the money and steal it so they can go to the Cayman Islands and feed off of our lunch ticket. But the example is that right there. That's 16 trucks That's an entire motor pool. A guy that knows how to turn a wrench should have all those trucks online. You might make one a hangar queen. Here's how you do it if you're in a hurry. You pick one or two vehicles that can make them hangar queens. The ones that are probably the roughest. And any parts you need to get the other 14 online, come off those two trucks and you don't spend a penny. And you'd have 14 3-quarter ton military type transport trucks. that could be turned into real tactical vehicles for whatever practical application right there on the spot down there on the border. The military has massive amounts of stuff like this and what I've said for years, you don't go and buy all of everything, you see what you're not buying, you get, you go, okay I want every Dodge M880 in the system routed to Texas to the border. I want every CUCV that's available in Arizona and New Mexico. Now I don't have to spend a penny, All these were already paid for. They would be good beater fleet vehicles. They're out in the desert anyway. They're getting the snot beat out of them. And they might even get bumped into by other things that go bump in the night, like, you know, raider trucks and stuff like that. So I could run an entire operation, shut the border down completely, and could do it for a couple of million dollars. I guarantee it. In fact, you've got radio rigs, everything. Think about how much of an area the border could be covered with the junk just that one county has. Because they tell you, oh it's the vehicles and the, oh we have to buy this and we have to buy that we don't have to buy Jack squat. Rotten pigs, rotten, dirty, dirty rotten thieves. I'm just so disgusted with them because you can get even better still. Those M880s, those Dodges, the snow commanders or whatever they are, there's newer than that by the thousands. You can get brand new GMC trucks that are 2008 going out the back door with the government auction right now. You need to tell me that those are all run to the ground vehicles? Here's a trick. They'll sell 20,000 of those from the fleet. They collect the fleet and they sell it and they're going to go right back out to police departments. So why would we buy 20,000 new vehicles when we have 20,000 Dodge or Chevy pickup trucks or Fords and we ship them all down to the border and it's now the border fleet. All done. 20,000 vehicles. I don't care. In fact, you hire people to wrench, you hire people to maintain, you hire people to do paint and bump. And congratulations. When they come out the other end of my production line, they got two spare tires, they got a roll kit, they got their most of the illumination. I'm going to give a squat about flashing lights. Hell, that BS. We're not chasing them down like cops. We're going to make sure that if all else fails, you're able to go across country, hunt them down and shoot them. That's all you really worry about. This is a combat unit. This is not a, you know, a, oh stop or I'll shout stop again operation. That's the whole problem. But you're just, it's a reflection. You're right there in Texas. There's a, I guarantee there's a hundred other places like what you're talking about. It doesn't at least. But a hundred other like it, probably the different, you know, richer counties or counties that have more, you know, more money than brains. We don't worry, we've got plenty up here. We've got the college campuses, the big colleges, even in your state. I'll guarantee if you go to what was Austin. There's a property disposal site in Austin. I'll guarantee there's piles of stuff piled up there the same way because they get government tit money, especially fed money, so up the rumpus. They're trying to throw away brand new so they can buy more brand new. And how do I know this? Because I go to the U of M and do the same thing, where there's piles of brand new because somebody got brand newer. More money than brains. Are you even auctioning off the sheriff's SUV? I'm not excited about those. You want to know why? Although the county boys don't protect the other trucks. Cops have a tendency to be really abusive to vehicles they don't own. I'm serious. It's not that cop cars aren't cool. If you find a fleet car like with fed cars, you can't remember that about half the cars they have they don't drive. So you look for mileage, low mileage, not a whole lot of beat up back ends and stuff like that. And when you're done you'll actually end up with a pretty decent vehicle if you look around but I'm not excited about their Department vehicles like that maintenance vehicles remember the guys trying to hide not do his job. That's what's cool Not too often do they go four wheeling or cross-country just to reverse They're trying to find a place to hide so they can have a barbecue at lunch and then do about an hour's worth of work and spend the other three hours figuring out where to nap You know what I mean? So seriously, that's how it works. The cops aren't any better, but they, you know, they, unfortunately, when they get on the road, I mean, come on, go watch all these videos of what these cops are doing with their cars. You might as well have the dueling banjos, you know, du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du-du You know, I mean, come on, think about it. You watch all these fools, now they drive those vehicles. How many times have you seen, like the one where they got incriminated, what the fool do? Drives off across the medium, bumping over stuff, flying three feet in the air, all so he can get really close so he can get right up. And he actually, with his film and the way he dropped that one vehicle right into the nose of that truck that the guy was beating the guy up, he caught everything that dirty cop did on tape. But my God, he busted that truck up to get there. And I'll think about it. The banjo chase music should be mandatory and probably as a chip on board every one of those stinking cars. It's probably subliminal, they just don't know it. Oh! Hey, Mark, I don't know too much more about this. I see this on all the police cars. I thought it was for one of those things for the pit maneuver they do, but they got those things that when they run into a gear, it don't hold. Right, it's for all of them because they're all garbage front ends and side panels now. This has been a problem for years. When they first came out with the Caprice and then the replacements for the Caprice's, the last model Caprice's, I found, by accident, I found out about the hundreds of cars that the Michigan State Police had wrecked. Because they were used to the idea that they had full body or at least American full strength unibody under construction. Forgive me, semi unibody where it's a frame rear but a unibody front. And they would cut across the intersection like we're talking about which we were so used to and they'd S the frames. They'd bow the frames right out of service. At one site where I was picking up the Dodge M880 Ram trucks and the M715s, I pulled in and here's this whole lot that's got trees all the way around it and it's full and there's over 700 cars. All of them were wrecked by the state police cops in their idiocy. After the first 100, wouldn't you start to ask questions? Oh no, the idiots just kept running the cars without thinking about how they were doing it and they had them busted up, banned up, twisted up, and it cost the taxpayers a god-awful amount of money. All the problem is that the companies didn't want to pick them up as fleet vehicles because they couldn't do anything with them. There was no way to fix them. So they had here, they had like a big chunk of the fleet that they bought all in state police, you know, blue, and nowhere to go with them. Because the only thing anybody do is bit out of the scrap, you know, for parts. You know, you get the tires, you get the trans, you get the engine, and maybe other parts that aren't twisted. And body parts for doing repair on other caprices. But that's about it. And in some cases, because of what they did, they sprang the car, then rolled it and did all kinds of the damage so many of them were fragged. I mean, absolutely frag frag. That's the only thing you remember about the people driving the cop cars is the cop cars, they're not made better, they're now being made. They're no different really. It used to be when you bought the Diplomat, you had three stages. Chrysler had police, industrial, and standard factory. Police and industrial, the industrial was one step below, but that was purely, again, it was for contract work, You wanted the police package because back in the day everything was beefed up. Well they punked out progressively and all that and more and more they realized that the idiots that are buying the cars are all getting graft and corruption and pay off so they didn't worry about beefing them up. So the newer they are, the punkier they are. And that's why they had to go to SUVs because then they got well, a four wheel drive capability as far as robustness that they had to incorporate because of the stupidity of the drivers. That's a fact that's in the automotive industry. I remember we're in Michigan, you know that car state where we did things like research and development and all the motor test grounds are right here. In fact, I'm only what? I'm seven miles from Chrysler proving grounds. Do you think I don't talk to people at Chrysler? And we don't talk about what these cop shops have done. The Chrysler people and the Ford people all know exactly what they got in the way of feedback because they were pissing and moaning about the cars and it's like well, what did you do with them? and it's like well you know, well it turns out they weren't going to get any money back on what they did to them. There's another example of your tax dollars at work. Stupid in a uniform, stupid as a day as long, dumb as a box of rocks, mostly state police, but they weren't the only ones. And so they had to go to these big butt gas guzzling SUVs in order to find something that the idiots couldn't tear up completely. But they still tear them up. I'm wondering how much money they spend in keeping, putting tires on you. put tires on these vehicles? I think it would be more like, it's not the tires, it's what's like I said, the tires usually survive. And granted they wear stuff out, they do. I mean that happens, tires are a natural wear experience, that's a rotation thing, that's a wear thing, plus liability. They've got an insurance commitment they have to make, they have to keep track of the mileage. Remember that most of the tires now have digital chips and they actually record their mileage. So they actually log those because of liability issues and, you know, again insurance issues with regard to the cops driving the cars. All kinds of math that into this. But you figure how much they beat up the suspension, even on a four-wheel drive, you know, even off the line for that. If you get it, expect it to be a beater. See, that's the thing. Even with the military stuff, there's some vehicles that they tear the snout out of and those I got for less. But I expect and understand that that's what you've got. That's the vehicles like if you look at our training videos, you'll see a couple of Dodge M880s that we load everybody up in, okay? At different times. There's other vehicles. Well, those were going to rough. Those were the beaters. Those were our training vehicles. And they're typical of the cheapest ones that, you know, that particular vehicle that's in the video I paid $65 for. ran beautifully, mechanically very sound, had body work on it because it's a Michigan military truck and it rusted. So what we do is we just do sheet metal riveting. That's all the Army did. They would just do a sheet metal panel that was cut to go over the rusted areas, fold the metal accordingly, and then just paint it over when they did the next camouflage job. Once they did all the quarter panels and replaced anything, it was rusted. That's normal for you know all this stuff about it's got to be the latest to the greatest really it all dies the same if it gets hit and gets knocked out or gets busted your $50,000 vehicle you have one of my hundred dollar or two hundred or five hundred dollar vehicle I have how many of What does a rat pack care if one rat dies? Everybody jumps to the other equipment and keeps right on moving because you've got replacements See, that's the thing about this. Everybody's conditioned to these boobiness that comes out of the movie. It's gonna be the latest! Why don't you have a no dodge ram? Yeah, what? $58,000? $72,000 with a custom super package and it's got the race power under the hood. Oh, blah blah, yeah, right, okay. One hit, boom, $78,000 gone. Boy, I could have spent that somewhere else. Well, Mark, I wouldn't want to jump in a new car because I hear a lot of things. It's not just like with one maker car, but a whole bunch of cars are having ignition problems with the car that shuts off on the middle of the vehicle. The electronics, all of this is just like everything else we're seeing through the whole of the infrastructure. There's stuff that's setting things off or it's intentionally malfunctioning because they're going lower and lower standards with regard to the foreign manufacturers of the components. So while in theory the original idea was cool based upon laboratory construct, actual application with the lower standards makes for a very bad decision, very bad situation. Older typically is better. If it's already been running, the early 90s vehicles, late 80s to early 90s, mostly the 91 through 94 era, are the 300,000 mile cars. The newer ones, not so. But they actually dumb their technology back because they realized they'd engineered, they did do a few things right. Happens every once in a while. They usually get rid of them. Torus, Ford Taurus was a flawless design that had been perfected. Ford dumped it completely. If you might look out there, you'll notice that there's a couple of years where there were no toruses. Well, when they reintroduced it, they didn't bring back the torus. They took one of their other punk designs that was having all kinds of problems, and they put the torus name on it. And they just made flareings in the proper sheet metal to give it the general look. but anybody that knows the cutoff, where you see the cutoff year, the last year that they made them before they stopped for about two years, you want that model or the few years before that because they will run forever. Now, when they brought it back out, they picked a punk model that's got all kinds of engineering problems, ignition problems, fuel problems, but that's because then they can bring them into that forward repair shop and work on them. That's what that's all about. So the idea is to find it's like tanks. It's like APCs. Guys, by the time we dumped the M60, the M60 was a perfected vehicle. Its down and maintenance time was minimal. It could easily have been upgraded to create an equivalent to the M1 Abrams, and in fact, an M60 A5 A6 was built in prototype to compete against the Abrams. and it performed to every standard the Abrams did. They already did that. That was already done. That was one of the three projects, the Chrysler, remember you had Chrysler, GM, and oh that's right, the M60A5A6 program. Laser rangefinder, onboard fire control, the suspension was perfected. There wasn't any issue. There wasn't anything they had to worry about. They changed the turret configuration, which wasn't the first time with the M60 they'd done that. and we dumped it and we brought the Abrams in and for the first several years and even now we still have all kinds of miserable maintenance problems with the Abrams. So again we didn't get better we got somebody that to spend a lot more money on. It works but again there's nothing that doesn't work. It's the eighth eraser it's the blades that will kill you. Mark I've been hearing people wet in their pants saying oh my god Homeland Security is getting a Bradley fighting vehicle. Good, we'll have them real soon. And those are perfected. The Bradley works, but the Bradley was a committee of monkeys program. There's a movie that was done years ago about that. All the features that were expected and really made sense on the McVee. I stood inside the original McVee's when they were built. And in fact, I remember talking about that, I was in Washington. And there's some Bolivian general stepped in the ass into the vehicle with a yardstick. and was measuring the inside of the vehicle while I was inside inspecting the weapons ports. And we had a bunch of other characters that showed up. The original McVie was a great idea. Carried 12 men, carried four dragons, carried two 60mm mortars, firing ports on both sides, still had the same firepower in the turret. Didn't have the tow system up on the roof yet. They doubled the size of the turret but did not improve internal maintenance and performance. Added more junk, made the switches smaller so you can't wear gloves when you're operating most of the equipment in its first generation because they threw the tow launcher in there and all the tow controls on top of all the chain gun controls. The original idea, it carried a lot of troops, it carried virtually tens of thousands of rounds of ammo. Everything was thought out and had intelligently been mapped out for the Bradley and then the Committee of Monkeys took over. And when the Committee of Bureaucratic Socialist Monkeys took over, that's when the shipwreck took place. So, just an idea. Now, if you want to see the McVie, Holland bought the McVie in its original configuration and so did the Philippines. So, the McVie in its original configuration with the lighter power pack, that was the only thing that they knew they didn't have the engine yet because it wasn't off the production line. So, they went with an existing diesel that was readily available and that's what they dropped into the McVie. Its performance was a few miles per hour slower but otherwise its armor comparable, its fire power superior. Then they went to the Bradley and the Bradley, the Mark I Bradley, basically the same package but they doubled the size of the turret which pushed men out of the vehicle which defeated the purpose behind why he built it in the first place. They could have made the turret bigger up above, left the turret well the same size. And accommodated space for the launcher, for the guns, and for the ammunition. And it was already worked out. The engineers that did it worked at TARCOM, Tank Automotive Command. I knew half the people who were there because I'd worked with them. It's a small world in the military when it comes to research, development, or production. And if you just were willing to sit down and let people talk and just listen a lot, it's amazing how many good people you can meet, especially when you live in the land of the automotive manufacturing, you know, Michigan. Ain't that big a whirl. What was the problem with the Abrams, Mark? Did they have things wrong? The first thing that they did is they went with a specialized lubricating bogie. That was one of the biggest drawbacks on the vehicle in Costus, you the American taxpayer, more than anything else on the vehicle. The track system, they tried to go, there are several different ways you can create what's called a speed track. Now the most expensive and goofiest is what the Austrians did with like their version of the Honimog which was tracked and wheeled. uh... they have roller bearings and races inside the uh... retainer pins for your lock pins from track pad to track pad that's a speed track that they can do sixty seventy miles an hour won't come apart flawlessly functions and can handle the speed but nobody but nobody wants to build it because it's you know the price of of three armored cars for one if you go with standard track pads and pins when the abrams the uh... what the biggest problem you got is before you start it up it's kinda like the old GMC, Korean War, Automatic Transmission, deuce and a halfs. When you start them up, you've got to let them idle and run, obviously. But then what you were supposed to do is run the vehicle back and forth to pre-lubricate the bogies. There's an hourglass or an observation type device so you can monitor the lubricant inside the race area where the speed races are. Well, the kids usually starting them up or in a hurry so rather than pre-lubing what they did is they'd start running and the lube was not uniformly distributed because the vehicle had been setting and she would drylock on them and start to wear out and break. You know actually it would wear quickly because you're looking at 60 to 70, well 58 tons initially, 64 tons and then 70 tons with the depleted uranium armor, the uranium armor, whatever you want to call it. And so the bogies would wear out prematurely, it would destroy the races. This would of course prematurely wear the track, which would prematurely, well of course it would put stress on the drive sprockets, which means you'd have to prematurely change the drive sprockets. So what you're doing is wearing down the entire drive system. Then you've got Johnny Jet Jack who does the J turns like you see when they were invading Iraq, you know Adventure Part 2, where you see them downtown, where they're doing all this jerking around with a 70 ton vehicle. Well, those little track pads are only going to handle so much of that to begin with, but on top of that, they could... it was expected to be to a degree, it was the idea was to really shock and awe, shock and jive. Well, again, it wasn't their vehicle, so if they did have to replace it completely, and they did, so be it. But you've got to figure all this stuff adds up. And what happened is the bogey wheels themselves became the short supply item in the system. On the Humvees we had the exact same problem. In the Humvees case it was suspension electronics. With the Bradley it was a combination of things because of systems changes. And they also had this problem with the Humvee for the same reason. They kept changing the internals under the hood. We bought 10 Humvees years ago, paid $2,000 apiece, all of them ran. We were going to keep three. By the time we were done we kept none. Well, we would've had a Humvee! Yeah, yeah, we had those. We know what you're talking about. That's why we sold them. Number one, back when the guys bought them, when Jim bought them, he bought a lot under sealed bid, right off the bat, three Germans paid like $10,000 a vehicle. So he made the money back right away on his, okay? And then the people who wanted to buy them started to work out looking. It was like, you know, we're going to pick up, you know, one here, one there, one here, everybody have a vehicle. But then we started looking at them and it's like, well I had a whole fleet of M880s that I paid $45, $65 and $85 for. Jim had a fleet of Humvees, it cost $10,000, you know, like well $2,000 per vehicle and we got $10,000, $20,000 total. And by the time you're done doing parts maintenance and everything else, I could have bought another 100 M880s and Cuckvees for what I was paying for the parts for the Humvee. And I could only move one person one set of one group of people around whereas on the other hand What does a rat pack care if one rat dies? If I've got so well, you just got his get his got his money back in the Humvees that was it. I mean, oh, yeah Oh, no, he got more than back. He sold the last couple him for 23 24,000 each By the time he's done great. Oh, yeah, he made his money off on the first one Well the German one German bought paid I think 29,000 for the one The other two went for 10,000. And you've got to remember there are many changes in the Humvee. The Humvee, when you lift the hood, that's why before Desert Dust 1, 50% of the Humvee fleet did not work. The electric system was so abysmal because of the way the generator and alternator packs were set up that the majority couldn't be shut off during Desert Dust 1. They had to leave them running because if they shut them off, they'd have to jump them again because the batteries were dead. Now that was a fact I've explained that on the air so that Shiver lay had a shiver lay had in her sale the show room for 110,000 right oh yes, I know you could buy that well the strip version of that when they first made it available you can buy for $56,000 and I said well, that's really cool of course they had to civilian eyes it there's a bunch of stuff They wouldn't let us peasants have on the vehicle but nothing was really critical Because most of what they took off had to do with shielding for four-wheel drive operation It was not truly ballistic armor to protect the crew. It was buffer armor to protect the suspension system. And they interpreted that as armor, so what they did is they took off critical protection from underneath the vehicle that was needed if you were going to go hardcore cross country. And the reason they put those shields on the Humvee in the first place, because they knew that people who don't own the vehicles were not going to care about the vehicles. So the armor was put on because of Kufis who was thinking he was going to run across a whole bunch of rocks and play free off. You know, surf with his Humvee because he miscalculated the clearance of the rocks. Well to make sure that they didn't frag the trams and the primary pumpkins in the rear and all the other fun stuff, they armored them up with like 3-8 inch strike forged steel. Just like you do on the Dodges, on the front ends of most of your four wheel drive trucks you have something like that incorporated into the front suspension in the infrastructure so that it actually creates a strong front end. It can take abuse. But the shield was actually designed to cover critical components that otherwise would probably be damaged even though they were industrial in grade. The problem wasn't there though. The problem was under the hood and it had to do with the original models. They kept experimenting with where to put the alternator generator packs. They extended them out, moved them here and moved them there. So there are several variations right off the bat, which we didn't even know about until we started lifting the hoods and found that out of the 10 vehicles, 6 of them had different electronics. Different ways that they were actually fixed and mounted. So right off the bat you got 6 orphans. You got to find specific parts for it in order to fix. At the time when Desert Dust took place, the guys that I knew that were working on Humvees They did not have any new parts. They were taking junk parts off and they were tagging the mileage on them for being garbage, but they were garbage that still could run. Then they would take another part that was tagged that had fewer miles but still too many miles on it and put those back on the vehicle that had just had a junk part taken off. Now the ones that we bought were from the early 80s the ones that he got were from from the early 80s So they had lower mileage in general. It was one of those flukes Nobody had a Humvee back when we got those nobody had a Humvee But we also didn't keep and I'm you would be cool if you want to infiltrate and exfiltrate I mean after all nobody had a Humvee so the only people who'd be driving up in Humvees would be people who were in the army Hi, how you doing? How you doing? Yeah, we got Humvees. You don't hahaha You know that kind of thing But it didn't serve our purpose. Anyway, we are, whoa, serving our purpose, we're past the top of the hour, guys. Anyway, talking about fun stuff like supply and support and the failure of your system, we can feed off that. George, we need to find out what the cost of those individual trucks are and the whole fleet. Find out what they want for the whole batch, including that tool truck. I'm very interested in that if the Dodge matches the rest of the trucks. Those are the guys down there who need vehicles and this might be a solution. George, pound it for us. Very good, George. Keep it up. Anyway, God bless the Republic. Set your new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on a run. And we are on a march. Stay a night. Ura. Ura. Cokes Distributing has a bunch of summer clearance sales molly items. Coats distributing calm summer clearance sales. It's up in the bar. Go to it. Check it out Anyway, we'll be back tomorrow same time. You all be good We'll work out the communications and guys you work out any yours. We got to be prepared for what's coming. God bless. Bye. 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