August 8, 2014
Evening Show
1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke's evening show on August 8, 2014 featured extensive discussion of ammunition and reloading powder availability, with detailed vendor pricing and product recommendations from Powder Valley, Grafs, and other suppliers. The hosts analyzed geopolitical conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, discussed SKS rifle imports from Royal Tiger Imports, reviewed CR123A lithium battery deals from BG Micro, and promoted the Tuesday evening 'Grow Your Own' gardening program on Liberty Tree Radio.
- ammunition reloading
- powder valley
- grafs
- 223 ammunition
- 308 ammunition
- ukraine conflict
- gaza strip
- sku rifles
- royal tiger imports
- cr123a batteries
- bg micro
- preparedness
- liberty tree radio
- night vision equipment
- ammunition shortage
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Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torture freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He'd fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? If I could reach that button, I'd call you home. Reach that button. Okay, I'm going to assume that we've got a live audio feed in that. Mark is delayed. So, is that Mark? He should be here. Okay, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Evening Intelligence Report. This is butter knife. Mark will be a long-end due course, I assume. This is one day closer to victory for all our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories. in various compass directions. I do not know the compass code, so don't pay any attention to that part. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio. We're on AM and FM Microstations, CB Base Stations, and Alternate Technologies, east and west of the Mississippi, along with Alaska. We're on the Hallmark network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. Bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico headed to Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma. Big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include the pit, the third and the fifth, and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado. Waving to the left coast, we turn back to the east. Sweep across the plains back to the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi. and land in the Smokies where the restaurant crews, OK teams and the mob bell, grandma consortium of retired telecommunications workers works on the Golden Spike Project. It is 8 August 2014. It is Friday evening. It is the last hour of the day and the week for the intelligence report. And that makes this Quartermaster's Corner. Let's check. Do we have Mark? Ed, do you know what our status is? I don't know whether we have to go one two three I'm unmuted again. Okay there we go I did the intro. We're here go right ahead. I'll tell you what today's date by the way is for everybody out there listening. It is 8 August 2014 and it is of course a very busy Quartermaster Friday and it is Cinco di Amo Day. everybody out there listening and with the way things are going buy more ammo buy more ammo and hey by the way buy more ammo I don't care which buy although I would recommend that everybody pick up some 223 if the National Guard people decide to you know jump the right way got to keep them shooting at the bad guys that they decided to break away from so better have the 223 ammo in the air 15 mags the m16 mags out there in force go ahead jump in there BK what do you got for us tonight It is always St. God the Ammar Day, isn't it? See, we will buy more and more whenever we see it, especially at the yard sales. We have hundreds of yard sales. This is Dexter Day's here right now. So we have yard sales up to Ying Yang. I haven't even looked at them all. On the global front, we are hearing that the heroes of Kiev are on the verge of invading the large cities in Donetsk and the eastern provinces are about to complete their overrun operation of the of the renegade provinces, as they say. As usual, there is absolutely no news in the corporate press of any losses or setbacks experienced by the Kiev regime. Only that a national force has succeeded in crushing two provinces that were at best lightly armed and so on. If you listen to our press you would think that there were no casualties, no successes, no setbacks, no logistic problems, no defections or desertions and so on. All of that is of course a complete lie. It seems to me that those two provinces made a pretty good account of themselves given the available resources and manpower and so on, plus the fact that villages and apartment complexes and so on can be freely shelled, that there's total air superiority and all that kind of good stuff. We get to watch the vampires at work ravaging largely defenseless civil populations for no particularly good reason. I think they are fooling themselves if they think that they can continue on from there to the Crimea. I don't think the Russians will allow them to do that. When the national forces arrive in their conquest and find that they've got a big pile of rubble ahead of them, dead and bleeding and civilians and women and children screaming at them, I think that they will probably have even poorer morale than they do already. They will start to wonder what exactly we're doing and why we're doing it. and where are all these raving terrorists that we were told that we were fighting and we will see how this shakes out. It will be interesting to watch. It's certainly a vast amount of blood and terror and pain inflicted for no particularly good reason, but that's what the vampires do. They use other people to commit evil acts and they sit back in their cushy digs in London and New York and the Hamptons and so on. and congratulate themselves on what fine manipulators they are. So that's what's going on in that front. On the other front, exactly the same thing is being done by the noble Israelis just pounding this knot out of the Palestinians in that open-air prison we call the Gaza Strip. At this point, even a bunch of the Israelis are starting to say, why are we doing this? What's the point? Blowing up the power plant? That's not a military target. The Izzies are losing a great deal of whatever popular support they have in the larger world because people are just watching this venomous spittle spraying rabbit rampage. and thinking, wait a minute, what are these guys? They've been singing this song about the Holocaust and all this kind of good stuff, but they have become the monsters they talk about, and why should we continue to support them? So, better late than never, I suppose. Well, life in the real world may you live in interesting times. On the logistic front, Here in the States there are some interesting developments. It seems that the powder situation has loosened up this week. We'll get to that in a minute. Before I forget, one of our friends gave me a heads up saying that he periodically checks a Wally World. And they have a couple of interesting things. One is that some of their 12-gauge shot shells are on sale regularly, $28. per box of what is it, 200 I think, marked down to $20 so that is cheap 12 gauge fodder. The bad news is that it is number 7.5 shot so it's useful as bird hunting stuff or as garrison ammo. You're defending an inrush at 10 or 20 yards, that sort of thing. or peel open the end, pour out the shot, recast it into a larger ball and pour it back in again. He says also that this is probably not very reloadable ammunition. It would be polite to call it low brass because he says it is actually low pot metal. So this is largely plastic ammunition with undetermined but cheesy looking metal base, definitely low extent and so on, but surely good for one round. So that would be probably 5.10 or garrison ammo, but it is cheap and it is available. The other thing that he says is, and this is much more interesting, is that some Turkish .308 has appeared at Walle at $10 a box. That is $10 for 20 rounds. That's 50 cents a piece. We haven't seen 50 cents a piece in a long time for .308, nor have we seen significant quantity in .308 except that ridiculously high prices. which is why somebody has things on the shelf if the prices are unpleasant. He says this is brass, a kneeled case, looks good, and all that sort of stuff. Range time will be required before he can swear, whether it is boxer or burdan primed. It may very well be burdan primed. He does say it is lacquer sealed or something green sealed. We're going to call it lacquer. At Wally World, $10 per box, that is $0.50 around, very serviceable looking .308 in some quantities. That is an improvement in recent trends. Comments, things to add? No, no, actually a very good solution. The one big thing here again is, like you said, with regard to the Less expensive ammunition, guys. Look at it this way. Garrison ammo, reserve ammunition for training, or cache ammunition where it's more inservicable enough. You're not going to cry if something happens to it, although you should be doing a good job storing and coming up with a storage system. All the material support we're talking about, just remember, triple layer system. Go ahead. Don't plan to use number seven and a half shot for social work at range. It's just not going to work for that. It is a short range emergency ammo or you can rework it if you want to spend the time doing it. But it is probably the cheapest possible way to buy those particular components. Now in recent weeks We have been reporting continued ongoing powder shortages in the medium range. Nothing really in the pistol or very high speed range. Very, very limited supplies in the mid-range that we would use for .223-308. Slow powder has been available for a long time. Suddenly, this week, we seem to be spoiled for choices in mid-range powder. Let's run through the list. I have checked two of my favorite vendors. One is Powder Valley and one is Grafs. Partly, I like Grafs not because of the prices. The prices tend to be a little on the high side. They are a good vendor though and they have very good inventory controls. If they say they have six or something, they have six or something. If you order two of them and check again two minutes later, they'll say they have four. So you can trust their inventory system on the web. Powder Valley's prices are considerably more aggressive. So starting on the list, let's start at the 223 range. Powder Valley is offering accurate ARMS 2460. Now, this is a derivative of the old Ackerd Arms 2230. It is very slightly denser than that, so you may get another fractional grain into the case. But look at the 2230 data. That is no longer common. It was once in wide availability that came off the surplus market. There is really a 223 as you might guess from the name, Accad Arms 2230. That was designed for the 223 round for military contracts. This 2460 at $20.25 for one pound is not a bad price for one pound packages. We are once again told that you should look at the 22 to 30 data and as usual back off a little bit and work up your own loads But it's in that ballpark, which means that this is a 2 to 3 powder really They also are offering a accurate arms 24 95 at 22 10 for one pound That is a little bit pricier This is largely a copy of IMR 4895. So this is a reasonably versatile, mid-range powder. You should be able to use it for both 223 and 308 and anything in between. That is accurate. Arms 2495 at 2210 for a single one pound package. They do not have the eight pound jugs in that. Now, this gets a little bit more interesting. Really, a 223 packaged powder is 4320. Both these vendors, both Powder Valley and Grafs, have 4320 and both of them have single and eight pound jugs. Grafs is offering the one pounders at 2450 and the eight pounds at 173. Potter Valley is offering the same one pounders at 21.50, so that's three bucks less, and the eight pounders at 1.54, so that's $19 less. So as usual, Potter Valley has considerably more aggressive pricing on these things, but they both have inventory. If Potter Valley sells out grass, it can probably fill your order. That is 43.20 currently in stock in both eight and one pound packages. So, that is not a bad option at all and it has not been available in the past. So, this has popped up, somebody got a shipment and it's there while it's there. Okay, last one that's really a sort of a 2-2-3 specialty is H-322 and that one appeared at Powder Valley also in the mid price range of $22.45. That one is popular as a 2-2-3 match powder. You will all have your favorite loads or look them up in the tables to decide whether you think that's of interest or not. I'm just going to throw that out because that one shows up as available. In the slightly oddball powder categories, we have still two items that have been popping in and out of inventory in the last few weeks. One of them is Acrid Arms LT32, and the other one is Lever Revolution. Now, LT32 is developed for the 6mm bench rest market and it's a little on the pricey side, but it does give very, very consistent performance in those light rifle cartridges. People have used it to good effect with the 223. It's available at Potter Valley at $25.25 for a single pound or $1.90 for an eight pound. Let me repeat that, $1.90 for an eight pound. So that is an aggressive price for this LT32, but it is pricey on an absolute basis. So LT32 is available right now at Potter Valley in both one and eight pound jugs. The other oddball that I just mentioned a minute ago is Lever Revolution. Now that is really a specialty powder. That stuff, truth be told, was designed for the 30-30 market. People of course have loaded other calibers with it and I'm sure that everybody has their favorite little recipes if they've had that on hand and have tried it out. Because if it's sitting on your bench and you say, well, I need to load this or that, then you know, oddball cartridge that I've got. Now people are going to try it and they're sometimes going to have success and sometimes have failures. What I would recommend When we're doing mass work here, I'm not sure where the source of that interference noise is coming from, is to use these things as originally designed as much as possible. Level revolution is designed for 30-30, stick to 30-30 and something fairly close to it. Use that. to deal with that 30-30 requirement and take pressure off of your other calibers, your other powder supplies. So if you have something that's very wide range and versatile, that could run anywhere from 2 to 3 to 3-light, including 30-30, and you get some of this lever revolution, use the lever for 30-30 and take the pressure off that other versatile powder so that you have more leftover for the 2 to 3 or the 3-0-8 or whatever it is that you're doing. Now, way up in the pricey end, this is high quality stuff and it's going to cost you an arm a leg. Powder Valley has some Vito Vuri N135. Now the two that we're most interested in from Vito Vuri are N133 and N135. Both of them are medium speed rifle powders. We'll cover the range of .223 and .308. 133 is a little bit better for the .223 but it can reach to .308. 135 is a little better for the 308 but it can reach down to the 223. So there's certain symmetry there. Each can kind of substitute for the other to a degree. What they happen to have right now is 135 at $30.35 in a single pound. So we have gone all the way from $20 a pound for single pounds up to $30 a pound, a 50% price swing. The plus side of the Vita Buri stuff is that it is very high quality, very consistent, it's made from virgin cotton, it is not made from wood pulp, it's not made from any form of scrap, and so on. The people that use it like it, but mostly the people that use it are the ones that don't care about the price of things because they've got lots of FRN sloshing around. That does not describe most of us, but there are always people like that. for a notation that's available now this week at Potter Valley, $30 or so. Accurate Arms 4064. We have mentioned IMR 4064 in the past. This is one of those wide versatility powders that people like to use for everything in sight. I kind of like H335, IMR4064 is one of those same ones, BLC2 is pretty versatile and so on. Right now Accurate's 4064 is in stock. They must have shipped a bunch because both Powder Valley and Grass have this stuff listed. Grass has the 1 pound containers they offer them at 25. Powder Valley is offering the 8 pound containers at 164. As always, when one company has an XYZ product and another company has a similar XYZ product, you can tell that just from the naming in the nomenclature. There's IMR 4064 and there's accurate 4064. Do not assume these are absolutely identical. What you can assume is they are intended to be reasonably close to identical and you can look at the data sheets, the loading charts for each of them, but never ever ever trust any change. Even if you just change the brand of primer, for instance, from one small rifle to another small rifle, do not assume they're exactly identical. Back off a little bit. and check and test and keep good notes so that you know next time what you're going to want to use so you don't have to run through that process again. But there are so many combinations and permutations nobody can tabulate all of them. You just have to do that yourself. So Accurate Arms, a version of the 4064, is available at Powder Valley in 8 pounds, $164, and Grass in the 1 pound at $25. Two more items to mention here before we wrap this one up. IMR 3031. This is one that's primarily intended for the 3030. You can tell that also from the numbering. That will sort of remind you what's going on. People have used that and liked it for some of the heavier match bullets and so on in 308, but it's really not its primary goal. This is somewhat similar to a lever revolution. Think of this as a 3030 powder. which you may be able to use for other things. Grass is offering it at $24.50 for a lawn pound and $1.73 for an eight pound. The major virtue of that is that it's available. I personally prefer to go with the more versatile wide range items. It reduces the logistic issues, but when we are in a Russian economy, you show up with your little string bag and you get to the front of the line and you find out what they have. you don't get to pick and choose anymore because the economy is being shut down. We are just scrounging around and finding what we can find. Last item on the list, IMR 4227. This is a Magnum pistol powder and you might be able to adapt that for some of the small rifles but it's really intended as a Magnum pistol powder if you want to load your 44 mags at 357, all that kind of good stuff. This is really what's what that's designed for. And remember that pistol loads, even the Magnum pistol loads, use so little powder by comparison to the rifle. If you get an 8 pound jog, you've actually got a fair amount of powder if you are operating in pistol, even in the Magnum pistol range as opposed to the regular cartridges. I frequently bemoan the idea that there are people out there that say, well, I've got three pounds of this and five pounds of that, I'm all set. I just have to shake my head and roll my eyes and think, man, these guys are in for a rude surprise. But you know, so it goes, you should be thinking 50 pounds of this and 100 pounds of that if you possibly can manage to do so. I have a storage site that's suitable, can swing the FRNs and so on and so forth. But we aren't all in that position, sure. It's like I'm not. An awful lot of other people are not. As the economy gets more and more shut down, fewer and fewer of us will be. If we stumble across a buddy somewhere that's got a pile of stuff, he's going to be your best friend for a while. So, you know, we're spreading the word to the degree we can to try to get this stuff into people's hands and hopefully into responsible hands. and more into the Patriots clutches than the people that will simply go out in the woods and blast away to have a great old time and enjoy the smell of chordite. So IMR 4227 is available at graphs 8 pounds 173 and that is primarily a Magnum pistol powder. So that runs through our roundup this week. of the notable goodies. There are a few items. Cabela's always seems to have stuff. I guess they must have the buying power to be high on the feed chain. One of the things they are offering, and I have mixed feelings about this, they are offering 12 gauge double-ot buck at a good price, 10 rounds for $4.23, with 1 cent shipping. We heard the word shipping. Oh yeah, okay. That's not a retail offer. That's not a cash price offer. They're not really selling shot shells with that offer. They are building a mailing list with an offer like that. And I have some mixed feelings about all of these big operations that have a mail order operation. selling ammunition because you know that they're selling that mailing list to anybody that wants to pony up the cash and some of the bad guys are ponying up the cash because why not? It's just our cash. It's our money they can use against us and so on. So, I have mixed feelings about the database dossier target list aspect of that sort of stuff. But if you really want a good price, you can sniff around. They're offering, I think, a $4.23 for 10 rounds of a double odd buck. So, that is our ammunition and reloading supplies, or at least powder, roundup for this week. Comments? Real quick, going back to the 30-30 specialized powders, remember that we've got a lot of cartridges that are out there that a lot of them they call the Elmer Fed guns or the Grandpa guns. They're not. They're very effective weapons. 35 Remington, 30-30 obviously. 303 Savage, which by the way came up and disappeared and came up again about 20 years after it was first introduced. There's a lot of those rifles out there. Bullets are available, cases are available, or you're going to run into usually you'll find a rifle that will be maybe three shot boxes and four cartridges used in the next box and maybe a partial box left and that's it. And of that it might have two different sets of bullet, two different sets of loads in there because there was some left over from what I shot two years earlier, 40 years ago. Any of these mid civilian range cartridges match up against the 30-30. And so your performance ranges are pretty much the same. 35 Remington, of course, uses a .357 Magnum bullet in whatever dimension you want. You can even use cast. semi-wadcutters, forgive me, quite comfortably in the 35 Remington and that powder. You'd get good performance, but you could also use any standard jacketed rifle projectiles for the same reason. Some of the other cases that where this will work are is also in the just as with the 3030 are some of several of the antique cartridges going back in the pre-98 category One of the reasons is because of the burn rate for this powder It is very successful with all of the other Winchester loads because Winchester made took the same basic 3030 case They made it all the way down into 17 caliber and and literally made 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, whatever you wanted a custom order they would make for you. So, there are cartridge guns out there that are going to be run into that are lever actions or they're savage guns. They were done in the Winchester Chamberings. Some of those are magazine fed. They are still a lever action, but they're magazine fed about 1885 through 1900 is when you'll see those. Then they come back again into style at different points. basic cartridge category, that particular one, that powder would fit the niche for, and so you prioritize it in that direction. In other words, you can adapt it to other cases, but it was built for a particular mission, and we have a lot of those guns out there in service. Yeah, one of the things that I don't understand, I don't know whether the powder guys understand it either. They may be entirely empirical in these things, Burn rate doesn't seem to be the only parameter. We understand that there are all sorts of different shapes. There's spherical and cylindrical and flake and short cylindrical and all this kind of good stuff. They affect the way the powder dispensers, the powder measures work especially. We really like the ball and the super shortcut for using metering. It saves a lot of time and makes things easy to handle. But in a given burn rate, some of these powders are very, very versatile and some of them are not so versatile. And I don't even pretend to understand why that's the case. I just note that that's the case. I'll rely on other people's accumulated experience in saying this one is a specialty powder and that one just smears all across a wide range and is really, really versatile. I don't particularly get it, but I'll report that that seems to be the results. One of the things, too, again, is purely creative marketing. Somebody came up with an idea. They thought that it would fit a niche. The big thing with that particular powder is the cowboy guns. When you think about it, the interest is quite large. My brother-in-law, my oldest sister's brother-in-law, is a big time cowboy competition shooter. In fact, he's done quite well for himself. Yeah, but if people got really good .308 loads out of it or something, you'd hear about them. Some of them just seem to do really well across a big spread and some of them seem not to and I don't pretend to understand why. Part of that is also interest. It's like H110. It was $6 a pound and everything else was $8, $9, and $10. And because of that, hell, hell, it's $2, $3 cheaper. I'm going to save money and make it work. And so everybody did come up with loads that were quite sophisticated for a lot of stretching the normal performance range. Otherwise, it's basically, well, if it costs the same as the others, are there other powders I like more? Probably. But if it was the only powder, I guess we better figure out how to make it work, which is the other half of the formula coming up down the road here. Well, sometimes you may take the hit and say, okay, well, we'll lose 25% of muzzle velocity because we're sending something down range, period. But that doesn't count as being a really, really good load for a particular match. It's just sort of a make-do. And some of these things, The curve is fairly flat across the board. They're somewhere near the max velocity or they have really good accuracy across a wide range and some of them don't and I don't get it. Well again, one of the biggest problems we've got as we're pointing out is the powder availability. So here's the other half of the formula for us is anybody who does acquire it, if you either have the information for the wider loading ranges or If you're into R&D, then one of the considerations, because a lot of people will have computer websites where they are into shooting circles. They would be interested in the information and the research that's done. So there's another consideration. You can make a name for yourself. We used to do this days and days on end, years ago, but there was no internet. But we did share the information, the data that we developed. And everybody else should be thinking the same way. Guys, just because you're older, I can't run around the field. Yeah, but you do like to go to the range and shoot off the bench. You know, so do some R&D for us. Take some of this stuff and experiment. If you're already a competent loader and you have pretty much a decent loading bench, then you can perfect the technology for us and come back with us and tell us, hi, here's what happened. And that wouldn't be a bad thing. We appreciate that. There is one additional item that I forgot at hightechammo.com. These guys do surplus and pull downs and things like this. They haven't had a lot of inventory for a very long time, so we haven't been mentioning them very much. But they do have something it seems from the chatter that I've been able to find on the net Apparently, Rio is starting to sell some components directly into the US Civil Market. And I gather that this is the first of one of their items. These guys are listing under surplus military powder, and I don't know whether that's accurate or not. If Rio is selling this stuff, then it's probably not surplus military powder. But it may be a commercial powder. from them. Whatever the case may be, they are offering CSB-1. That is Charlie Sierra Bravo. This is fast powder for pistol and shot shell. High tech says it comes with loading data. I have seen people have posted a jpeg of that loading data and it's very, very minimal. A few cartridges and so on. And here's a starting point and what not. But at least it gives you something to work from. They're offering five pounds for $100. So that's $20 a pound. So, while we have had some problems in the fast powder range, basically we haven't seen any in the longest time. This gives you something that you can use for your mainstream pistol and Shot Show Reloading. A CSB one that is Charlie Sierra Bravo Dash One and it's available at hightechmo.com and apparently it's popping up in a few other vendors as well. But that is one of the web vendors. So I'll point you there. Everybody seems to be looking for $20 a pound for this stuff. So they're offering it at $100 for five pounds. That's right in line with everyone else. High-tech ammo is hi-tech, t-e-c-h, ammo.com. CSB-1, pistol shot shell powder, $20 a pound. They're selling five pound jugs of it. And that is fast stuff and it's starting to appear they are one of the vendors that does seem to have that. And again, $20 a pound seems to be the upper median for a lot of the powders now that are in the inventory that are desirable for particular heavy emissions. So, or... Well, that's the good price you'll get at Powder Valley for some of these better known powders. So, that's why they're getting away with it. They're probably making a lot of money at 20 a pound. If something's new to the market, they probably got a pretty good price on it because it's not known yet. and they're probably making a lot of margin on these sales so they priced it right down at the bottom where all the competition from Powder Valley is. Very good. Real quick before we go any farther, anything else? Jump in there please on the powders. Not on the powders, we're about to change topics. Okay, let me do that real quick. I want to remind everybody, we mentioned this earlier, go to RoyalTigerimports.com Royal Tiger Imports, we've got a lot of people here listening in the evening that don't listen in the afternoon. RoyalTigerimports.com, when you go to the page, right at the top of the page, you'll see SKS blowout. These are Chinese SKS's, no they're not $56 a piece, but they do have beater guns, grade D, I've got grade A, B, C, and D. Grade D are $200. and read the information i'm not going to get on the air go check this out the grandiose are going to get one of those and you're going to say i think it on her box for this well the thing is the images are there to show you what you're basically expecting a only differences variations on the theme because they're all used guns uh... seventy percent of the eight-grade have seventy percent of their finish So, that's their rating, that's an NRA rating on them. So, if you're looking for, well, this is why I recommended to do it this way, number one, $200 for a receiver and a barrel and a whole lot of parts, but nothing missing. They say there's no parts missing. It says it doesn't work. Now, why it doesn't work, I don't know. So, again, I was going to call them and say, okay, give me an average. What is it that's wrong with the rifle? Is the action not open? Does the action function or move but doesn't operate the trigger group or whatever because you see there's a lot of things it's nondescript However, it would be a project rifle for somebody who is and some of our people listening are armorers But it would either be a project rifle or it is a project slash. It's ready to work It's just they don't want to mess with them They've got a lot of other weapons are handling and stuff is moving all the time So it's minimal time turnaround the weapons they depict in the images have grease on them and let me give you a little hint about that. It doesn't mean that they have to be rusted. when all, especially gas operated weapons, G43s and K43s are notorious for this, you couldn't get that work to function properly if your life depended on it. You have to degrease and de-storage the gun. A lot of these are crude and rude storage. That tells me, like I said, everybody's been mincing about specifically where these came from. And if they did get released from a certain country, why not tell everybody? Well, only one person said, yeah, they're probably from Vietnam. Everybody else has done the, oh, they're from a neutral country and they've been there for 20 years, don't you know? And it's like, really? neutral country for 20 years. Well, really the only notable neutral countries, Switzerland, it's not likely, and I don't think they were using those in the Alps, not that the Renna Revolution companies wouldn't have them. Finland, which doesn't handle a whole lot of third-party weapons in this category, and there's a few other countries probably that have been neutral, faking it out. Well, they've been selling stuff to everybody in the process anyway. Well, when they say neutral, they mean somebody is not on the do-do list this week. Right, exactly. That's why, like I said, they've been stored since, you know, for about 20 years. So who knows where they were, but again, they're typical Vietnam battlefield types. Now here's another interesting thing. I had a couple people go over the ones that they got before, which are part of this lot. And normally either under the barrel or somewhere on the side of the receiver, there will be a micro stamping that'll tell you where it's from. And so far we haven't found anything. Now, I don't know if they've changed the standards, which I don't think they have. So there's something interesting about these in general. This is like you said, this was a doggy treat because somebody will go kill somebody for us. So, hey, you remember all that junk you wanted to sell in America? You can do it now, only for the time being. So that's, again, they're a unique item. There's a wide range of options. Personally, at the very most, I'd go the mid-grade. And don't pay the $20 for hand-select. It wouldn't make any difference. mechanically, if they rate them at the level that they do, clean them up, clean them off, do a good job top to bottom, disassemble them completely, put them back together properly with everything lubed, even the threads for every piece of threaded stock, and the bolts, and the extractors, and the ejectors, and the firing pin, disassemble the whole bolt, clean it up, put it all back together, tape over the parts that are not supposed to be painted, and paint the thing. After you take the stock off, clean the stock off, strip it, or just go get a plastic stock. Take your pick and put it back together. But it's again a 510 rifle, a cache weapon. The best SKS I have looks like the rifle you see in the D picture. It actually is the best shooting. It's a pre, probably about a 6263 rifle. But it's a hard chrome, early weapon, all machine parts. So, pretty doesn't count on the outside. The issue is how does it look mechanically on the inside. Here's another part, another part about this. All those Chinese SKS's are chrome bore. Unless they did something really twisted or bizarre to them, the barrels are pretty well on the inside, they're going to look just like expected. But, Eric, again, don't know until somebody has to take the time and entertains themselves with them. Some people have, but the D-grade is the unique, funny one. That's the, wow, I haven't seen D-grade. That's like monument-grade armored vehicles. Well, considering some of the stuff that the surplus industry can consider, you know, used functional good. If they mark something de-grade, I'd be very, very nervous. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if you get one of these things and the trigger doesn't move or the bolt doesn't open and you've got a real job ahead of yourself. My attitude is that those have a legitimate place in the market, but $200 is not that place. Well, they're usually not that bad. It will be something, but as I said, we'll find out. I'm going to ask them myself and say, describe for me a de-grade weapon. In other words, I just couldn't get through. To be quite honest, they've been so stinking busy today. Every time I called, we've been on hold. and they're just buried. So whatever's going on with them I don't know. I mean everybody likes SKS's but they have had some other sales going on with AKS too. So they've got some pretty good buys in certain areas. Well I want to remind everybody real quick because I want to get back on track. They also have a bunch of Pepish 43 kits that are reasonably priced. The center fire system Pepish kits have a certain part of the gun available. The Pepish kits that they have at Royal Tiger have another cut the way they were cut. They have other parts. If you go to Apex Gun Parts, the third kit has other parts that, in the way they were cut up, that the other kits don't have. And by the time you're done, you pretty well have all the parts. So just something to think about there. If you do a little research there on the Peppish 43s, those are the Folding Steel Stock, Folding Steel Stock, All Steel Peppish Submachine Guns. Not that you're going to build them, but they're interesting to do as a research project. Anyway, BK, you've got a lot more to go, so let's jump in there. Go ahead. Okay, yes, we have mentioned in the past a special that BG Micro is running on the CR123A lithium primary batteries. These are one-shot batteries, they're just like alkalins for instance, but lithium is a different chemistry. These are routinely used in night vision equipment in some of the high performance flashlights. There may be the oddball radio here and there that uses them and so on, but it's mostly illumination type equipment. CR1238 batteries typically retail $3 to $6 apiece. So when we come across some at a bargain price, we're going to call them out. Now, BG Micro has a lump of these. They explain on their site how they got them. It is clear that since they've gone through a couple of lumps of them, this is the last of this particular source that they're going to be able to provide. This is not one of these, oh well, I'll come back and get it next year, opportunities. This is a wasting asset. We should pounce on this if we have not. They are offering these batteries that are marked expiration 2020. which means that they still got a nominal six years to go before they even hit expiration. And you know how expirations work with batteries. That means that this is the point at which they cross a little bit below the curves in the data sheet. It does not mean that they crumble to dust on January 1 of 2020. But they are offering these 2020 batteries at $0.99 a piece, which is already decent. But if you order 10 or more, they're offering them at $0.75 a piece. So $7.50 for 10 or $0.75 a piece for any number from 10 on up. Now there are two things that are important here. One is that BG Micro are not forangy about the shipping. Unlike, for instance, Goldmine who are Ferengi about the shipping and you have to watch them closely and they will stick you very hard. BG Micro actually takes pride in packing their stuff as tightly as possible and getting it into the smallest flat rate shipping box they can manage. A number of times I've gotten orders from them and gotten a little refund back on the PayPal. They say, well, we got it in a smaller box than we expected. So here's $4. So they are very, very good about that. The other thing is that they are having a site-wide discount code. That's another 10%. 10% isn't a huge amount, but if you're already getting a dirt-cheap bargain like this at 75 cents apiece for these guys, and then you apply this discount code, you're getting another 10% off. So, this code is capital letters I-A-A-H, that is India, Alpha, Alpha Hotel. That is their ordering code. It's only good for four days. So it's good now and it runs through Tuesday, August 12, 2014. If you're listening to this on the archives, you may or may not be in time. But with that code, I-A-A-H, all in capital letters, at BG Micro, you can order these lithium batteries. They have fewer than 500, if I recall correctly. So they're working down through the pile. You can order these guys at 75 cents a piece for 10 or more and another 10% off of that runs it down to about 68 cents a piece. Hey, you can't beat that with a stick. So this is an opportunity for any of you who have not moved previously. Shame on you, but here's another 10%. This is probably going to be the last crack at these guys. The coupon code will evaporate. and they will dribble down through the pile and then it will be gone gone. So CRR123A batteries from BG Micro at even less than the 75 cents each price. If you use coupon code IAAH, that is India Alpha Alpha Hotel, all capital letters when you order, and that coupon code runs through Tuesday, 12 August 2014. Very good. And again, guys, looking at what we could get in the rechargeables today just from the retail end, one of the things, they're not carrying the inventories that they were, even hardware. They're stripping down to what we warned everybody about years ago, where they have 1z's and 2z's or nonezies. Yeah, these are primary batteries. These are is and wants. But lithium is, especially on lithium, is power density and shelf life. So, you know, this is the goal of these guys. And again, like I said, availability. We're seeing the sidewalks roll up, especially in technology where we've got power sources, certain types of tools. One of the things I'm also noticing is the latest wave of China Sport junk. They're starting to look like they did when they first came in, but they're charging you the price that they've been charging most recently. I'm seeing casting. I was looking at some tools today. They're charging full price, you know, $20, $30 an item, but you're looking at casting, flaws, failure to finish. But here's the other problem. They're also now the only tools on the shelf. So, we've gone full circle on this. Guys, with batteries it's the same way. You're going to need batteries. You're going to go through them. Guys that are going down to the border found out, for instance, running all their night vision and other surveillance equipment was something we warned everybody about. You better be carrying spares in your pocket. Don't think you're going to need them the next night. Have them in hand because the initial set, unless you change out to fresh right away, you may have already been running them and you've already put time on them. and they're already going to be there'll be running down real quick especially if somebody doesn't know how to shut down when you're not in use. A lot of people have like to keep it ready and hot they bring up their face and yep it's ready to use but remember it's non-stop that you're running the circuit when you're doing that you're putting power through the system. and that means the batteries on the meter so to speak. It's like a parking meter. Guys, they do run down. That's just how it works. Go ahead, BK. Yeah, night vision stuff with the exception of the illuminators runs a remarkable number of hours on a battery but it's still finite. Okay, we have only a few minutes left. I want to do two things. 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