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Well, tell you what, it's a beautiful thunderstormy front to the south, but blue sky overhead. We'll see what happens. It looks like Monroe is getting Deluge right now along with Lake Erie, so might be headed our way, but right now it's neutral We'll see what happens there that front's probably heading over towards Cleveland and head toward headed to Darryl eventually Anyway, do we have done with us there? Yes, we do and the date today is hey, it's the 30th day of July year of our Lord 2014 ain't it and that is a particular day and you know how it works you guys Hardware in one hand and hardware in the other you know, 1911 and magazine, some column clips. We're going to introduce the magazine to the magazine well and touch that slide release. Now we got one in the chamber and we can tell everybody it is weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure and you know there's plenty more where that came from. And that means we can offer equal opportunity, coercive force when the time comes as needed. Don, let's jump on off the wall up there and you can particular. Well, I got to tell you, I've been doing this for a little while now and I've got like three bullets that I'm going to have to shoot. the kind of tumbling and deciding which way to go. And now here's Axis lined up with, you know, Boar Center and everything falls into place. And when all of that happens, well, again, it gets bumped sideways a little more. And I got three bullets I got to shoot because I'd rather shoot them, you know, when things are kind of civil than trust those three bullets in the top of a mag. Now, a number of things are going on, Mark. We can run right into a couple of different objects if you'd like it is weapons wednesday you guys one of the things on that note before go too far away from the ammunition and i i've been noticing this uh... in uh... looking at the ammunition available once again certain things yes as darrell point out are becoming are plentiful in terms of variety not so much deep in other words is not a lot of but there's a wider selection because some of the companies have caught up to a degree with their back orders for the last six months five months you know a year uh... gecko ammunition showed up in a pool a little puddle with aim surplus here the other day okay now gecko is pretty straightforward everything weird with their ammo they don't do anything exotic uh... they focus on bread and butter uh... ball ammunition sometimes soft point uh... a very limited amount of hollow point very very limited and even their in proven specific projectiles that are pretty much mimicking the ball around in terms of paper of the uh... you know the jacket to the hollow point so that the round typically function pretty well i mean there's there's there's not a weapon they won't work and it's very rare and gecko is notorious for that because they do know that they're looking at a wide spectrum of arms across the planet that they have to sell to. In America we have a lot of custom loads. These are hot jock, you know, super, you know, the next best thing sliced white bread and better because it's whole grain. I'll be right back. And this, in this situation, there's, you know, Magtech, which, you know, Magtech's personally made outside the US. Some of the stuff is loaded here apparently. It's a mix. A percentage of the other super fill in the blank loads where you're only selling, you know, the stuff is so expensive that, or they put such a price on it that $25 a box, you know, for a 25 round box is what you expect. Not a 50 round box, a 25 round box. Now, at the height of the disaster of, you know, scrambling for ammo this last year, Those companies even made major mistakes or glitches with shoving a bullet a little too deep every once in a while and it wasn't seated properly when it was put through the press, the loading system, which is mechanical by the way, it's automated. Primers, backwards. This I have had more than a couple of cases of with people that are local here who bought the more expensive ammunition because they wanted it for personal defense and they were told this is the best cartridge to use only to find when they opened the box that they had one press case where the bullet was deeply seated. That works, typically an auto gun, you can get that to work. It may have a little higher pressure spike, but it should function. You're just going to end up having to hand feed it first. But the backwards primer part was really kind of the embarrassing thing because it wasn't just in one box. It was in two boxes out of five. 25 rounds per box and a dollar a round. Now for a dollar a round, you'd expect a little higher quality control. At least a visual inspection. Exactly. Maybe it would be a good idea to notice that there's that little pock mark there in the middle of that 25 that might be something strange. Well, that's that primer seated backwards, right? Now, the other, that's obvious, but one of the other considerations here is, yes, it may be a phenomenal round. There are several that are just, when they open up, they go from 45 or 9 millimeter. They go from 9 millimeter, they go to 50 caliber. If they go from 45 to opening up, they go to like 65 caliber. Okay, they become a big flat pancake where everything, all the energy is exerted against the target, provided your weapon can cycle the ammunition. Now it doesn't mean you can't use it, but we've warned everybody about this many times and I've had a couple people with tears in their beer Like the you know again person we're just talking about it five boxes of the same ammo He bought what he was told to buy by somebody else who said oh, no you need this Don't listen what those other guys are saying well he bought it and on top of that about every sixth round The feed ramp hangs the cartridge hangs that little cart mouth has just enough of a beveled edge in the wrong direction that it snags on the feed ramp. Now this is another reason to do a mechanical test, a physical test of the particular unique ammunitions you might be thinking about. Well, that's, yeah, but I, no, no, you don't want to reconfigure it too much in the way of the feed ramp if you can help it. I heard that you can lop it. You can lap it, but I wouldn't use the, I wouldn't use the Dremel tool, I'd use a hand lap. I would do it myself by hand, I'd be sitting from the TV, and i would handle at the moment okay i do the trouble to them a porting expert on a port engine well okay that's the difference if you've had time to let it be a very hard to met a reno right here again the average average person is not necessarily going to be able to do that or afford it number one you probably stretch their wallet on the ammunition they bought anyway but the fact of the matter is that the first problem is this okay i bought the ammunition at port of the weapon Okay, which we like. Everybody like. We've got, we've been porting .45s for years, especially with, here's something nobody uses hardly at all anymore. WODCUTTER .45. If you were going to fire a competition WODCUTTER custom load .45 for matching, there's a guy still using WODCUTTER and MATCH, you have to throat the gun. You have to polish the feed ramp. You've got to clean up the feed ramp and you've got to throat the tube or you're not going to be working in semi-automatic mode on a competition range with 45 ACP wadcutter. There's a classic. However, the point that I'm trying to make is this. It's not my gun. It's the idea I'm working with a team and somebody says, hey, throw me a mag. Well, my gun is loaded with the special whiz-bang super or whatever the cartridge is. And if I toss in that ammunition, or that magazine even, say that we're all carrying basically, we agree to carry the same weapon, but do we all have the same processes involved with the build of the gun? The other thing is, there are other weapons out there where we're going to be passing ammunition alone onto, and they simply can't handle that load. And that's one of the things taken into consideration. While you can carry and should have a percentage of whatever that specialized load is if you like it, personally, my attitude is, as we've said before, stacking your mags and loading them for performance, you know, for expected performance. Hand loading that specialized first round is fine. And after that, dropping the magazine in with another soft point behind the Super Cartmoth Buzzcutter slash Explodo art cartridge that was first in line. And then after that, ball around for everything else, because whoever I'm shooting at, if I didn't get them with the first two rounds right away, they're probably already undercover. And now I've got to start punching through things. He's probably hiding behind the door of the disco or the car or the seat in the disco or even car seats. Exactly. So now we've got to punch or chew through things. And that's really the consideration. So what we're looking at here is a situation where we need to balance it out. The ball ammunition is still the cheapest way to go for the most part if you look to see what's coming in. But GECCO is probably the best example. GECCO has been around a long time. I would say something about GECCO that I can honestly, and again for all the rounds I've ever fired over decades, whenever we've had GECCO ammunition, I've never had a misfire. Now, I fired thousands. GECO has come in as one of the cheap ammunitions in surplus or at least on the market back when the economy was better for the US like 30 years ago. And GECO was about like a Guila. You could get GECO or Guila for half the price of American ammunition. And it was Boxer Prime, brass cased, Eden Eeled. So for all intents and purposes, it would do everything you needed to do with reloading also. So, any time you rented a Gekko cheap and you wanted to go to the range and you were going to be really blazing some rounds down range, you bought what was cheap and Gekko was out there. Well, Gekko has kept the market, or it's corner of the market because it's stayed with standard loads, just a case in point. There are other companies though that have that special niche in unique rounds, not just people cutters. They also do tracers, they do bird shot loads, they do all kinds of other fun stuff. And each of those have an application. In fact, if you're building up a survival kit and you're putting a 45 kit together, you'd want a combination of different loads because a game getter is a better choice than blowing a bunny in half of the 45. 45 slug. See how that works? There are reasons for. All these things that have been built have been sold. Typically the people who use them also know what the application or where to put the ammunition in its niche in the golf bag. That's the best way to describe it. We don't use one iron. If you're a golfer, you don't know how to do golf. I've seen a golf bag. So they pretty well understand, different clubs for different shots, right Dom? Right tool for the right job. Exactly. So it's true with our education and it's also true with our weapons. Yes. And that's something we need to be taking into consideration. Anyway, jump in there. I know you had a couple things you wanted to touch on, jump in. Well, I'm glad you were able to elaborate on that because you know, this basic conversation you guys came from a malfunction during the run-up to a weapons Wednesday like OAT. And we addressed it since... Again, I've got three bullets and I'm going to cycle and I'm wondering if they'll run out of the magazine. Another way to do this, you guys, a lot of gunsmiths will tell you, well, bring me your .45 and all of your magazines. They'll take that lip on the magazine and run it back 15 or 25 thousandths. And that helps the back of the bullet kick up just a little bit quicker and kind of helps things into a chamber. Make the slide go to, you know, snap stop. goes bang when you pull the trigger. Another point to make here and to elaborate on what Mark was talking about, you've got a pocket full of chicklets for your 45 and they're, you know, I like that P plus P, you know, hot 45, I like that, you know, it's like the hot summer morning, you know. If I was to give a handful of them to somebody with a Glock, it might not be good for cycling his pistol for a good long time. Just a point, and I'm not trying to pick on the guys with the Glocks, but just a point. It goes over to write down the fine little things like this, doesn't it? We talked about headspace for a moment at the beginning of the, at the end of the last hour, the five o'clock hour. This fits into that too because you know, you can build a bullet long you guys if you're building hand loading for your rifle and you can build a bullet long even for like your M1 inside the magazine. Now you can build it so long You'll seem to hand load down, you'll be able to one at a time and nice and slowly load the magazine full. But that doesn't mean that you've been short enough that the magazine will cycle out to the end, to the bottom, to the last round. When you build a longer bullet, you're moving the bullet a little bit closer to lands. And when the bullet has less jump to lands, the distance, and it's being pushed forward by that expanding solid that's turning to a gas almost as fast as it can. behind it. That jump to lands is one of the ways to make your groups. Now, we, you know, not everybody reloads, but you can talk to most any reloader and you guys, you can load your M1 longer. I'm not certain how much, but you know what? 15,000 isn't a bad length to them in the 50 caliber world. A lot of you guys that are reloading right to and you're not shooting a Barrett. Now you, this is something to sit down and figure on because you might want to top off that magazine and then try to slip a feeler gauge down in there. Man, if I got 30 or 40 thousandths there, I might be able to go 10 thousandths longer and that will probably shorten or rather make my groups because of the jump to lands is smaller. Now, you can, this gets to the point of being ridiculous because you know you can make, what you're trying to imitate here is what is known as a bore rider and a bore rider chamber. Now, that's in the 50 caliber world and in the other 30 caliber 338 people duplicate this thought line. But what they're trying to do is when they close the bolt, that final little eep where the bolt goes down, everything is lined up and you're certain that if the bolt isn't all the way closed, generally you pull the trigger and nothing happens, right? There's a reason, there's a mechanical reason for that. Everything moves to batter, they're lined up and all of that. That last little bit, when you close, you shouldn't have to press, but when you're doing that, a bore rider bullet, you're hoping that the bullet just within the whisker of your, the skinniest little portion of your eyelash is touching the lens. Some people build, when they load hand load bore rider bullets and single load them, one at a time like in competition, they'll build it to where, when they close that bolt, they can feel the pressure because they have built bullets to the extent, I'm gonna build this one 3000s longer, I'm gonna build this one. and building a chamber and basically you guys knowing because you don't when you do this you don't bring the the rifling into the chamber you cut the chamber until the rifling is where you want it and then you start to cut the rifling to old jive curve yaoi-zaoi huh you know that old jive that little bit that like man how would I draw that in dress you know because bullets don't just come down and make straight lines that curve of a bullet that scribing the factory chamber factory links, bullets, see factory, factory, factory, understand this, there are tolerance and there are go and go gauges. When a gun comes off or machined any fire, if they aren't up to snuff, as you point out, Mark, well, the RUT 30 caliber into a carbine, if it still didn't work, then... That barrel will be made into something and it will make it work for us. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. But when you build a barrel to the extent that you're custom building this chamber onto it, You guys, you get to cut everything to where you want. You get to put the micrometer in there and, man, I need to... I often die because this one just doesn't do what it's to do. You come up to above the breeze like that, but then you finally get to where you want to be. But when it's done at the factory, the go and no go gauge is the determiner at the end. Now we're going to continue with machine work and we're going to make this right into a complete barrel and load a working gun. Skip brought up more than once, you guys. years ago, Mr. Talbot, that about one in ten guns is just definitely going to shoot smaller groups than the nine of its brothers, either side of the, in the production. Right the same day, the same hour, pick that one, that one, that one, pick ten or twenty, and odd at nineteen or twenty, one in ten of those is going to be just better. And now this refers over to the tolerances that are built into factory production. But when you get a bullet that's short why because it's factory why because they wanted to fit into every chamber they've ever built right right they don't want to so you a bullet that's Winchester on it and sell it into a Winchester gun and it don't fear man the you see where we're going with that they don't want people to call you I bought this bullet and got your name on it I try to pull it it put it in everything it says put bullet right in there right there on the on the bill and no go gave this is why again We talk about you going by a gun off the shelf. Man, you just, this is a I want a disc gun forever and now I'm just gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, and when things get bad, I'm gonna get it out. You know, and we haven't brought this to the hour in a good little while. We need to, I wasn't necessarily wanting to go in this direction, but all of this kind of flowed to right to there. Because you know what? You've done that gun and yourself a disservice. You might think, well, I'm real familiar. I shot those in the Marines, the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Reserve, the National Guard, all kinds of things. I shot those, et cetera, et cetera, in competition for 20 or 30 years. And I know how that gun performs. And I just bought me a new one. And I put it away. Well, if you know all of that, then you know about fire-formed cases. And you know about a lot of the problems aforementioned, like tolerances. And will a factory bullet fit in that factory chamber? That's a good question to find out instead of build a gun up and put it away. Now we've talked about fire formed cases over the years. We've addressed it many times. But if you're a reloader, you know that fire formed cases are going to, once you have reloaded them properly, it's guaranteed you're going to get smaller groups than any factory load. As long as you're doing to at least the quality everything else to the factory load. The measure, the primer, the distances, the seat, the set of, Mark Skip used to say, there's about 29 different ways. It might have been 27. I'll have to review. But there's about 27 different ways you can go wrong reloading. And every one of those mistakes, many of them, when you pull a trigger, the gun will still go bang, the bullet will go down range, but it won't be the dinky small group that you're trying to gain when you're reloading. And when you're, by the time, reloading fire-formed cases. that gun in the closet, that gun in the stash, that gun in the cabin, nobody ever knows where the cabin is. So nobody's going to take that gun. I hope that works for you. But if you haven't fired that gun, hey, there have been brand new guns people pick up and pull the trigger and nothing happened. God didn't build that gun. That's one way to look at it. Okay? And it would be good to know that if you reach for a gun in a bad, bad time and you really want this gun to work, that it will do everything that you demand of it. So again, you know, if you put a gun away, brand new, and some, I'll need it someday, I know it'll work for me, you do that gun and you do yourself a disservice. Let's go back over to the factory chamber and the factory round. You guys, we've addressed this a number of times and this hasn't been brought to the hour enough. You know, we bring up, man, you can get cases of this and you can get cases of that and there are this and there and we know that they cost more than before, but hey, you know there's different loads for the different twists of ARs, right? You know, the one in nine and what's the other? One in seven or one in 11. You know that the different weights work best in the different twists. I'll have that for you by the end of the week. I've got it written down here. It's just not a hand and I don't want to get it wrong. You buy this. This is another reason not to put a gun away. Buy it brand new and put it away. You buy this gun. You buy a case of ammunition. Now you might buy a case of match grade ammunition. You can get that. Man, it's just everything. It's the best whiz bang. It's better than a bar of soap than Then it's everything else that, you know, it polishes your hubcaps too and all of that, but man oh man. You put it in a gun and the manufacturer guarantees, you know, X at a hundred yards for a minute of angle. And it's a half again as big as that. And now you're committed to a thousand rounds. But now if it's supposed to be an inch and it's an inch and a half at a hundred yards and you're expecting most of your engagements to be at 200 yards, we can live with that. But when you take that out to, well, five or eight or a thousand yards, you guys, now it starts to get to be, you know, bigger than the pie pan. Okay? Acceptable. When you get out to those ranges. It is good to know before you confirm, commit to a large number of bullets that your gun likes them. When you buy a new gun, we've talked about this before, man, you can go down right here into the Walmarts out here in the country and walk out with a SIG Sauer, a 400, an AR-15 variant, the M16 pattern type gun. I really, really do. But it's the SIG, or they call it the M400, I do believe. For less than $1,000, you can get one of those in a couple of magazines and all kinds of things. But if I was to leave there, I would buy, if there's Federal, if there's Remington, if there's Winchester, there might be another more off of bullets there on the shelf, I'd buy four boxes of, most of 20 if I could get that. You know, if they were boxes of 10, I'd buy two boxes of 10 of each of the aforementioned. And I'd go out, and we've talked about breaking in a barrel. We've addressed that, you know, shoot one bullet, clean the gun until you see no green, shoot another bullet, do that. And all the while you're building air formed brass. And all the while you're building a drop chart for your gun. You're stepping farther and farther back. But here's another thing. Don't spend all of that in 20 yards trying to make certain to 100, I'm going to be hitting right where I want. Because you want to know where that first box performs for you, no matter what the name, how small the groups are at 100 yards. And now you're breaking in the barrel too, so odds are your groups are going to get smaller. So this is going to be a little bit of misleading, but not that much to really mention it. By breaking in a barrel, you guys, you're going to get more longevity out of the barrel, more lifetime. You're going to get more accuracy out of the barrel. You'll find that when you clean the gun, the gun will come clean. The barrel portion in particular will come clean sooner, which are all good, good things. But all the while you're building fire-formed cases, you're building a drop chart, And by the time you get out to, you know, you take, you might shoot two rounds at 25 yards and be certain, man, I'm going to be on paper. And you might be so confident you move back to 75 or even 100 and you're still on paper and you correct your aim. Now, by the time you're there, put two other, like if you've been shooting Remington, put two other federal so that you're wearing down all of your boxes at the same time. But by the time you broke your barrel in around 100 rounds, All of a sudden, it might be around 60 cycles down range. You're cleaning the gun and you'll say to yourself, man, it came really quick. It came quick, clean that time for shooting because by now you're shooting five round cycles, aren't you? You're working up 10 at a time, one, two, three, four, and you're cleaning the gun at that interval. We've addressed this a number of times, but we've just told you why again. But in that process, all of a sudden you're going to find after those five or eight or nine round cycles when you start getting up that high, Man, I cleaned a gun and it came clean really quick this time. One of the added benefits of breaking in your barrel, kind of fire lapping, there are people who will sell you different grades of abrasive bullets to do. That can get a bit abrasive bullets. That sounds a little bit to me. You're a lot more knowledgeable with your gun after you've got into this about 80 or 90 or 100 rounds, right? This might take you from early morning when it's nice and calm. into the early afternoon when you're trying to work on windage now. And we talked about, we'll mention windage later. But you guys, by the time you've got your barrel broken in and you might be shooting at 100, now you're back to 150. And if you're shooting at 223, you might be at 150 and notate what your drop is to put it right on the mark and go back to 200 and go back to 250. And now you go out to 275 and 300 and see, you can build that drop chart way out there. You can. By the time you get out there, take the time. Now you've got five of those Federals and those Winchester's and those Remingtons. Now you sit down of each into five different pieces of paper and you and this garnet at a hundred or two hundred yards, it shoots two and a quarter inches of the X. I'm not going to put any names there because I don't want to mislead you in any way. It's inch and a quarter. The flyer. Now, the point here is, you know, we can talk on and on about this, but man, you might find a battery loaded bolt that your gun says I really like that and look at I really want to do everything you know it will really send it down range in a smaller group and you're I know your guns not going to talk to you but you guys your gun will say I really like this you keep buying it and you do you're not a hand loader we've expressed this thought a number of times but if you're if you don't reload you want to figure out why men can I'm going to shoot smaller groups with this gun avenue that might bring for you. Experiment with different factory loads across different manufacturers. Another hotline there is to even start to split things. When you get up into 30 caliber and such you can start splitting things up even into weight because man this gun likes this company X but you know what it likes in that company X. The head don't mind because man my groups are a I don't mind that at 300 yards I'm 25 or 75 or 125 feet less per second. I don't mind. I like them dinky groups. So if you're not a hand loader, there are still avenues that are going to get you to smaller groups. Granted, you won't be shooting the record small groups to hand loaders who are real aggressive and real knowledgeable and willing to do all of that knowledge to work for them every time they go out to a match. But you will shoot smaller groups. And if you think, man, What's the difference between an inch and a half or a two inch group or a one inch group at 100 yards? Well, what if you get really good at that and you're really shooting that one inch or that two inch group at 100 yards and you load up the other ammunition and it comes at 100 yards. But you know, consistency is a good thing. All of a sudden, there's a 500 yard shot out there and that five inch group turns into a 10 inch group. And that 10 inch group is just the difference between splitting noggins and just a Okay? So sometimes we'll ask you to compare an inch to a mile and these are just basic thought lines you guys. We talked about windage and I want to, Mark, I'll just roll right through this. Thank you very much. But you guys, we talked about windage and we haven't brought this to the hour in a good long time. You know, a number of different answers to that. You guys, there's a reason why. Boot camp is like minimum of 30 days and when somebody buys a piece of night vision I encourage them take it out every night for at least 30 days if you're going to be out there at 1 o'clock Try to be out there at 1 o'clock every night for 30 days for a number of reasons You'll become familiar with the cycles of the moon when there's no moon and when there's no when there's you know Little bit of moon and a full moon at 30 days. That's one of the obvious Another is you'll become familiar with your device another is When we do things over a good length of time like that, they shuffle down into our subconscious. They become more and more part of the good stuff instead of garbage in. When you filter stuff in, you can do this. When you go to a range in competition, even at 100 yards, you'll see a flag at the shooting line. You might see at 100 yards, you'll see a flag at the 50-yard line and a flag out there above the targets for judging windage. When you go to a 1,000 yard range, there's a flag at the shooting line and you look up and down the shooting line. At each end of the shooting line, there's a flag. There's a flag for certain at 500 yards and there's a flag at 1,000 yards, but they might be even closer. Let's just leave it at that. Divide that 1,000 yards in half. And you might look at, this is really getting, this is getting higher form than I really wanted to rush into, but let's go right there. Because you might feel on the side, the left side of your face, and you look, you turn your head to the left and you're looking directly into a wind that's just nudging that flag just up off the bottom of the support, the pole that it's sitting on, it comes up about two inches and it flaps down and it sits there for a moment and it comes up about two inches and it flaps down. It's just about as fast, maybe just a little faster. You turn and you look down range at that 500 yard flag and that flag out there is actually blowing, it looks like it's almost 45 degrees, blowing right to you. It's pointed right at you, but it's a little bit more up in the air too. It's flapping a little more. Then you look at the flags over your target at 1,000 yards and man, Wow, this is goofy because it seems to be blowing ever so slightly away to the right and the end away. And across 1,000 yards, you'll get winds moving in different directions. But let's not really complicate things so much. We've brought, as example, the man standing out in the snowstorm and looking across the lay of the land, the hills and the trees and the brush and watching the swirling air illustrated by the snow, the solid suspended in the air, watching and trying to discern how moving air moves around fixed. Now that's a high form of trying to read the wind, you guys. And the man I described to you, he shot a few years ago, shot the smallest 50 caliber group in the world, a world record a number of years ago. I don't know if he still holds it, but I don't. But that isn't a fictional description. The actions described moments ago. A man standing out looking across his land, a good hunk of land, and watching in the wind the snow and trying to figure out how it's moving here and how it's moving there and how it comes across that little hill here and what is affected by the big tree that still has leaves on it. Now there might have been a little embellishment there. The plot line is all true and that comes from a reference that was mentioned on this hour many years ago. Let's go back to that 30 minutes for 30 days. You're going to get pretty familiar with something. If it's taking apart your gun and putting it back together, you might do that once in 30 minutes to show you how. The next day they'll show you how again when you get it about ¾ back together. Which way does this part go? The next day you might be able to take it apart. and you just get it back together once before that 30 minutes and the next day in 30 minutes, man, look Sarge, I took it apart and I put it back together and I got it all apart again before the 30 minutes and after a while, man, it's like 30 minutes, so what? Put it together three times. I smoked a cigarette too, but that's what comes from hands on and over time. But now, let's get to reading the wind again and quick because we've talked about the way the leaves move, the way the grass bends, and even the clouds or how things change across the layers, at 50 yards, 100, at 500. We've addressed this to a certain extent over time, and we can do it again. But one of the quick ways to get there, you guys, is a little... We talk about going to... garage sales and close outs or another place you might find something like this. You might find it in the big family lot dollar store or something, you know. But look for weather veins, look for the mechanic, not the mechanical, the electronic weather vein that's going to tell as it's barometric, it will tell you temper, it will tell you a history over the last 24 or 48 or 40 one to two days an hour or over even more. The advantage here that you will gain quickly is wind speed. What you want to buy is, or even if you buy it used at a garage sale, you'll get the indoor piece and you'll get the outdoor piece and you want to make sure it works. One of the ways to make sure it works is put good batteries in it and spin that little wind speed thing. It's got those sun and it goes round and round. You guys, you go to 50 caliber shoot even if it's not a champion or you go to 30 caliber shoots that are any kind of range at all and you'll see one of these little wind speed indicators right there at a shooter's shoulder. He's measuring his wind speed right here, right there at his muzzle basically. Granted he's measuring he can only do it, he can't step out front out there and place it out in front. He's measuring what's around his gun and maybe across his shoulder and what not. But getting a reference to the lay of the land. Now, you acquire one of these. I have in my hand, I got this from this many years ago, and we've referred to this over the years, but we need to touch on this again. It's a ACU-RITE. It's an ACU. Isn't it? Hey guys, what you got going Eddie? I had company and I'm not sure how long we were off air, but I just got us reconnected We lost connection with the conference line. It is Anybody on the conference line could hear the conversation for sure And it is backed up and archived there, but we were off air for the period of time Well, you might want to listen to the archives for the aforementioned Yeah, spike if you're listening. It's there. It'll be there in the I yield to you, sir. That's one of the cheater tricks if you've got older barrels is to back set the crown We did that with a whole pile of K98 so we had Actually what we had were receivers probably about 200 of them that came from one source and then we had probably about 250 kits that were made up because we had a guy, one of our friends that's listening up north between here and where I am and where Don is, he was building up K-98 Mausers, actually was giving classes on switching them over to .308 and turning them into sporting rifles. Well, they're smart. They didn't throw any of the parts away. So all the military parts that came off because they were building virtually the receiver was all they were actually using. The barrels came off, all the military parts came off, all of the stocks came off. Then they would build a brand new rifle up from scratch. All these guys were of course building them in each class, he had about 30 people per class when he'd do this. Well, we turned around and rebuilt them, put them all back together as standard K98 military Mausers. But the barrels that we had that were on many of the weapons were, you know, used service rifles. And to tighten them up, what we did is we had the same machinist He took the barrels before he decided to bring them back. He actually promoted this and said, yeah, let's do it. He backset and re-crowned, using a backset crown, he re-crowned the barrels back setting by about a quarter of an inch into the barrel itself, past all the wear and tear from cleaning rods and bullets, etc. It did tighten each of the actions up. It is a trick that can give longer life to what is typically a tired barrel. Which is another issue only once we've used all these and develop them Can we afford to rebarrow in the future while we're in a fighting situation? So there are other tricks of the trade or armourers tricks that can help to accomplish more One of the things that would help you keep that crown is a board guide Yes, and those are available by the way for in ten furs I've been pointing this out, five furs and ten furs at Centerfire Systems, guys. If you have an AK, the one cool thing about 90% of those AKs out there is they've got the threaded barrel. They will accept whatever model of keeper that you can, or a guide that you want. There's a dozen different ones out there, but even the cleaning kits have a muzzle guide. That's what the cap is for when you take the kit apart that goes in the buttstock guys You notice there's a hole in the base of the one. That's a crown protector the one cap goes over the end of the muzzle you twist it sideways to lock it into place and because it has those retainer those retainer guides and Congratulations. Now you're protecting the end of the muzzle from being rounded out or gouged anyway by your cleaning rod Gee, the Chinese even figured that one out, didn't they, Don? We want no ovals. Ovals put it not work well. We have to work. We have to tumble bare thighs. But I sometimes hit friends, not like this. Not good. No, we make sure we do this right. It's a cheap thing. We do it fast. Slave number four. You bore a whole end of cleaning kit. We do fine. We only want round icing guns. That's right. Exactly. Then we got the real good weapons from the other guys. Well, some of them anyway. Then we changed to M16 and they weren't so excited. I'll keep the AK and give the M16 to Chow Chu Bong Bong. He needs it. There you go. So again, just case in point, even the poorest of our army's guys, China was not rich, not wealthy, but their design automatically kept mimicking the Russians, of course. Who also were not really super rich. They didn't waste anything. Just by applying a simple stamped sheet metal tool. We change completely the dynamic with regard to wear and tear on the weapon which of course ensures that we have consistent performance because that's what I was talking about being able to put the bullet in the same place over and over again and all the different dynamic components that make that happen or can make it not happen. One mistake, right place wrong time and again that's why we always need to be cautious. Contrary to Hollywood we don't throw our guns on the ground in disgust. We don't toss our weapons away, we don't bounce them around and have a fit and then come back and wonder why that pistol can now shoot around corners. Although mildly at first, don't worry, you've caused problems that down the road will accumulate. So, proper planning prevents piss poor performance in that respect. We are headed to the top of your town. Before we go any further, your number for night vision, please. Hey, if you want to see in the dark, I steal that line from Joe in the morning. My number is 231-796-8458. Goggles are gun sights, greens greens are thermal. Give me a call. My number is 231-796-458. Hey, DR in Illinois? I do, but yeah, DR in Illinois. Give me a call. 231-796-8458. thank you mark very good we should be here music here in a minute so for everybody out there it has been as the close of weapons wednesday for the moment but everyday right now the way things are going on the borders weapons wednesday a lot of people of course down there are bringing forward uh... More and more of the evidence of what's going on on this side of the border. Controlled media doesn't want to pick it up, but too many of the people are getting a chance to see what's really happening. Sponsor militia personnel going down to the border to deploy. There's ranches all along the border that need our help. They'll be more than happy to have you in camp and develop a site. That's the way to do it. Also remember, look at taking down as a unit if you're going to be redeploying people on a regular basis like we've talked about. Pick up trucks. Buy a pickup truck down there and leave it on site. Utility trucks. Get it out. Set it up for tactical operations. Same is true with bicycles. I'm not seeing enough bicycles. Man, there's some beautiful terrain down there where a road patrol, the bicycles are going to triple your speed. Think about it. So bicycles, as light cavalry, they work. We've got tons and tons of bikes out there in the system. Let's take advantage of them and use them, guys. It's not that difficult a process. Anyway, we are at the top and we should be hearing the music. Any second. I hope so. Hold on, I'm going to die. Anyway, one more thing here I mentioned UNAMMO.com. UNAMMO.com. Got a bunch of other stuff coming in. Oh my goodness, I'm going to kill Bill. Well, at least that's what that's from. Well, God bless the Republic. Death from the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Or is that Kill Bill 2? I think this is from Kill Bill. Anyway, we're going to be back tomorrow. I'll save time. Doctor, remember, her night vision encloses, please. It is 2317968458. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless America.