July 24, 2014
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1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke and Don Butcher discussed border security, military equipment, and preparedness on July 24, 2014. They covered night vision devices and their applications with various firearms including bolt-action rifles, shotguns, and AR platforms. The hosts addressed camouflage patterns for different seasons and environments, thermal reduction clothing systems, and tactical equipment selection. They fielded a caller about autumn camouflage options and discussed the border crisis, illegal immigration, and disease transmission concerns related to migrant populations.
- night vision
- border security
- illegal immigration
- camouflage patterns
- woodland camo
- thermal reduction
- bolt action rifles
- ar-15
- shotgun
- preparedness
- michigan
- tactical equipment
- first generation night vision
- second generation night vision
- mossberg rifle
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You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because MainMilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at MainMilitary.com. That's Main, like the state, Military.com. I had a dream the other night that Well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat. And speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Good keyboard good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening And evening intelligence report. I'm Art Kornke. And I'm Don Butcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, west, southwest, east, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com indianafreedomtalkradio.com we're on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, alternate technologies east and west of the mississippi along with Alaska homework network from the top of Maine to the bottom of florida, from the bottom of florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, hunted Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both 3rd, 5th, and Pitt, and the 12 sisters on the left side of the state, Colorado, waving to our friends there. Oh, all the way out to the Pacific side of the North American continent we have, the great state of Jefferson, and all the rest of our friends up and down the coast, turning back to the east. We sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, and land in the smokies slash the Blue Ridge. For the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Maville Grand Consortium bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work a million petticoat junction operators. The ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well here we are Don, beautiful blue sky. Yeah we got, ooh looks like kind of a burnt orange red showing up in the cloud cover towards the horizon. Red sky at night sailors delight. We'll see what happens otherwise. What's it like in your neck of the woods? What's the date today? What's jumping off the wall, sir? Well, it is the 24th day of July here of our Lord 2014 and it was a beautiful day here They said it would be drier than yesterday and the humidity is down and ever so slight the breeze you can't even call it wind just you know a little bit of air moving and we got into the middle 70s a great day in July here. Soon to be August, that's another way to put it. They'll be moaning the fact up in Traverse City that we haven't seen a 90 degree day yet, and they're saying the same thing down in Grand Rapids. First time in a long time, Grand Rapids hasn't seen a 90 degree day in July. Oh, these are the same people that were pissing and moaning about sub-zero weather during the winter. You know what I mean? Exactly. That and global warming. Oh, slap them side to head. Yeah. It's a regular summer. It's not an extreme summer. You're in the northern climb. We have this cycle, people. It gets disgusting after a while. It's like, why do I want you creatures around me? Breathe and enjoy what life you have, please. And stay away from me. This is what he said here again on the 24th day of July. I told you before, by the time these pieces of trash are done, no matter what you do, it's all doomed. The worshippers of the Mayan calendar and most are jobless. What can I say? I just wish they would blow them. Well, actually, the way to do it, I need to have them do the three-cut seppuku. without a second. I'm not going to chop their head off and I'm not going to be merciful in that way. Blow their brains out. Please take a cup full of potassium ferocyanide, preferably just lightly mixed with some moisture so you have to slug it down and it chokes you. Then as you're dying, still not dead, drop into your bathtub with a quick mix of hydrochloric acid. Before that, have another coffee cake. Rasputin didn't pick up from the plate. Please, leave us now. It's leftover. Please, your misery is dragging us down. It's a horrible summer time. It's summer time, but it's not good enough summer. Yeah, it's such a wonderful day. Yeah. And it didn't rain. It isn't the sunshine beautiful. And just wait till the sun sets. And then all the stars will come out. Yeah. I'm going to slap him side to the head with a 2x4 to drag some sense back through the head, through the ears. Well, again, you couldn't ask for a better day. Oh, exactly. Seriously, working outside, on and off, of course, in and out, back and forth because I've been trying to get as much done as we can. We are finishing up the book production area and that's going to be done tonight. Guys, we're going to crank it into high gear but I'm going to probably have to recruit somebody to do what we're thinking about doing. It'll get done but there's more to do and it'll be done quickly, as quickly as we can. Also, for our friends, I want to say thank you to our Colonial Marines that went down to the border. I understand we'll have another large pack of photos and a series of videos for recon. These guys went right down to the Rio Grande. They went actually puddle jumping a little bit. They decided to get wet. It's like the one reporter out there in California walked back and forth through the holes in the fence. It just showed that the border is just wide open right now. They're not doing anything. They have been told to just let it sink. Let the country sink. We've been betrayed. It's like the commander from the wild geese when he's standing there after they realize they watched the plane leave and he turns and he looks at his men and he goes, gentlemen, we have been betrayed. Now, what are you going to do? Well, you can lay down there in the airport and we can get chopped up by the aggressor or, well, since you already got going into a war there, so to speak, with who you killed. Might as well go for the gusto and fight. You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain and then figure a way to deal with the problem progressively. Oh well. So we're in the same boat right now. The water is wide open. They're letting everything and everything across. I think there's every conceivable creature that has slid across the border now, guys. They are planting murdered mayhem on a massive scale. A couple of typhoid Marys, some cholera carols, some... Yeah. Yeah, progressively now you've seen the reports, they're finally acknowledging, well, these children, like 90% are all teenagers and older teenagers at that, so they're not children. Like we told everybody. If they were white guys in St. Louis, they'd be prosecuted as adults. Yeah, exactly. Oh, but, but, but you... You can't do that. We've got to understand these poor chitlins coming across the border. Yeah, we understand completely what's going on. Now, as it is, Don, before we go any farther, go over the date today, sir. Yes, we did. Today is the 24th. Oh, we hit on that. But again, July 24th, year of our Lord 2014. Beautiful day, and it still is. Now, go ahead. Well, I was wondering about, there might have been some prodding there, so let's do this here real quick. If you're looking for night vision, If you want to see in the dark, I steal that from Joe in the morning. It's as plain as that though. Give me a call. My number is 2317968458. Goggles are gun sights. Green screens are thermal. 2317968458. We got a four-pulsion gun sight. Thumb screw down to your weaver or your picatinny rail. It'll live on top of your AR-10. It'll just say squeeze the trigger again on top of your M1. Write your mailbox for $390. We can... three power tubes in the first generation gun sight. It's just not nested and there's no aim point. It's just a viewing screen, a real good spotter scope for the aforementioned gun sight. I'll put that in your mailbox for $205. We can talk about thermal, we could talk about second or third generation gun sights or goggles or green screens, but hey, we got a lot of stuff to talk about. My phone number is 23179684. Again, 2-3-1-7-9-6-8-4-5-8. Sometimes we'll turn over this rock. What's behind number 27, Alex? The thing turns and it's a match for number 14 and it says we told you so. No. We can do that in so many different ways. But you know what was brought up today? It's a good thing Mr. Obama didn't send all those stinger missiles to Syria. Otherwise we'd be seeing American jets falling out of the sky like we are seeing overseas. That's almost exactly a quote from someone in Washington. He must have been important because they put him on TV. Shazam, Sergeant Carter. Shazam! But as I said, right on national television today, Mark. And by the way, let's not forget that both he and the rest of the turds that were pushing the let's go to Syria and stand side by side with BSBS, you know, ISIS, it's called, you can call it is is or you can call it BSBS. We were supposed to stand next to those bastards, excuse me, creatures, all monsters, all pieces of filth. While they were busy killing Christians in Syria we were going to join in the killing of the Christians in Syria or we were supposed to stand there and be challenged to not get involved when they got into their butchering and crucifying and beheading of Christians there. But because everybody put their foot down and told them to stuff it up as hind end until those little Jewish masters would run on down the road with him, they turned right around and they took BS BS and pointed them right at who? Why are Iraqi allies? And don't forget, We did leave a whole lot of stuff there that they're not even talking about. So there's a bunch of other things that are going to come out of the woodwork here left and right. But if you're smart in a battle zone, unlike the movies, you don't just spit stuff out left, right, up and down because it looks great for the cinematography in a two-hour presentation. It's a lot more drawn out than that because you save your big pops when you know you've got a viable target that's useful and you make sure it hits it. That's the first rule. If it doesn't look like it's going to be successful, why are you wasting that round? Depending on how big it is and how expensive and how much did it weigh to get it and how much did it cost to move it? See, that's the rule, guys. What does it take to lift it from point A to point B? So, here we are now in a situation where that nonsense is playing out. Well, like I said during the tour I blocked on, if BSBS was just hating on us all, why isn't BSBS attacking the Israelis right now since they're attacking the Gaza? They are the radical Muslims and the Israelis are the supposed enemy that the play actors have always pushed. Here we have one batch of play actors, the boss released in 2009 by the US government at the order of the Israelis. That person being in charge of BSBS was going to be the baby murderer slash the Christian killer that we were going to work side by side with. We are still giving him orders which is why We've got one side financed by us and the other side financed by us. I guess we're supposed to believe anything. Yeah. Oh no, no. The Jewish guy will tell you, you're not supposed to believe anything you hear or don't believe nothing you see. That's right. If it's not for a boss. Yeah. And of course next week it will change. And next week it will change. And next week it will change. We were at war with Iraq and we have always been at war with Iraq. And Syria is our friend. We are at war with Syria and we have always been at war with Syria. And Iraq is our friend. Gee. need a script to keep track of it, then something is wrong. Something is wrong. It is an Orwellian scoreboard at least. By the way, it has a mirage, in fact constantly it is changing. Before we go any farther, because we were talking about a few things, there is a rifle out there that is kind of interesting. Mossberg has come up with a little bolt gun that basically is a camp, not a camp car, it is a scout rifle. It's in .223, short stroke, it is a compact Zytel 9-1, comes with a conventional optical, regular daylight scope on it. And it's again in the scout package configuration that Cooper argued years ago. Now what's fascinating is that little rifle, like I've said before, there was a German Short stroke Steyr that was purchased actually from Steyr by the East Germans guys think about this it was bought from Steyr sold to the East Germans as a Sentry gun for shooting people trying to get over the Berlin Wall or for trying to get out through the barbed wire, okay? Hmm it came out It was the last sentry gun to be issued to the East Germans bolt action came with a fixed optic typical European, you know euro eastern euro optic short scope It's a tack driver but they came through for about $119 a piece when they first hit the beach here. Then they went up of course to $200 and they went to $300 and everybody's like, oh there aren't that many of those. Oh then the price went to stupid. But the rifle itself, it's being used with either the passive IR collection, the Russian SVD type scope. or a simple piece of daylight optics made by one of the Eastern Bloc slave producers. Now this new rifle, Mossberg and Ruger have a new one that are out there. Both are available in the .223. I can assume if they're doing a .223 they've got to be doing the .762 by .39. But either way this would be a real nice night fire placement shooter because again, you're not going to be doing the thousand-yard shots with the night vision technology. But to be copacetic with the rest of your inventory and because of limiting ranges to ensure that you get a higher probability of hit, these are nice little minimal recoil, short stroke, quick action package that would really lend itself towards Don's first generation night vision device. Something to think about there. So guys, take a look at that. Now, we know we've sold out of the one, but we do have the other night vision. The next of the first gen that are still left are in inventory. What's the price on those and availability? What are we looking at? Do we know what the numbers are at all right now? I'm not certain of the hundreds left or if it's around 100, but we whittled down, you guys. We sold some of them and other people bought them, but we whittled down that last 300 on the two power. Real quick, you remember we gave you the countdown. Last I heard we had about 700 of the four powers. Now that was a couple weeks ago I brought you that number. After that you're going to get the same body with a black and white television screen at the ocular end. It'll have white light coming out of it. We've addressed this to that bucket's full of tears, you know what I mean? But it's the truth. It's not like we're just going well, it's crying in the beer. Because white light on your face at night is not tactically conducive to a long life. Yes, it's shall we say stupid format. It's not your first best choice. Yes, not even your second. I'd rather have... Or second, third, fourth, fifth or sixth, right? Yes, exactly. It needs to be way down on the totem pole. Let's wait and look at it. Way down on the totem pole. Now the reason I bring that up is because again with these little light rifles guys there are several other ideas out there, but these little short stroke weapons, they are not a straight bolt. They're a tapered bolt so they have no problem with optics. There's little or no recoil and even as a closed system, as a bolt action system, these would be a perfect solution. And again, the ladies love this particular size action, this type of weapon. The Mohawks, when Remington brought them out years ago, they were very popular obviously for mountain climbing crews, people doing ridge shooting, but the other group that really liked it, the new lady shooters that were coming into play. The cartridge typically was no bigger than .308, although a number of other loads were like .405 standard, and then there were a couple of custom you could order if you requested it and paid the money. But it's one of the few rifles that was actually built early on in 223 like these newer Mossberg and the newer Rugers that are out now in the bolt guns. Short stroke, the Mohawk was basically was the basic rifle that Cooper built his scout rifle around. Long eye relief scope, short, you know, intermediate barrel, .308 caliber and it did everything it was supposed to do and as he argued the average infantryman really wouldn't need any more than this for a lot of operations. That's something that people scoffed at, but again, looking at the numbers that the government themselves collected, his argument was for accuracy and by the very nature of what needs to be done, rather than spraying and praying, the idea is to focus on accuracy and putting the bullet where it belongs. The more you put down targets, the fewer targets are to have conversations with later. Logic dictates, and it worked. It was actually a common sense practice. The rifle itself was built in several packages. for military and for private application over the years. Well these new little rifles fit that niche. So if you want to do a little research you can understand the basics by looking at the many debates years ago, a couple decades ago on this subject. But understand that here we are now 2014 and for whatever reason in the interest to try and make something new, which in reality is something old, these small bolt action, these small short stroke very durable, they've taken all the tricks of the trade and applied them to these guns. They lend incredible stability to a platform that especially at night, accuracy is critical here. And again, no felt recoil per se or very minimal felt recoil. The night vision device of course brings you into the 21st century pretty you know quite effectively even though it is first gen. Guys, anything you've got out there makes the difference in first gen at this day and age. More than enough for 90% of what we're going to do. In fact if the argument is that everything is going to be worked under 100 yards, you know the argument is 220 225 yards maximum, 100 yards or less for most everything else, well then with first generation you're more than in the ballpark. Think about it with what you're applying how you're applying the weapon system So there were some questions about these light rifles and it is obvious They should have no problem with the night vision technology The question is then how you as a team leader or you as a as a member of a fire team or a squad are going to employ that tool in the toolbox and Again, good choice. So there is one solution the other thing we had a conversation about the 1919 semi-auto shotguns coming from Turkey and These are M16 lookalikes. Now one thing that is an interesting point, these have a picatinny rail on the roof that he handled does come off so they basically become an A3 type receiver, although it's a shotgun. Some automatic, magazine fed. Now Don, it's a 12 gauge, 2 3 quarter or 3 inch mag. But my one eye figure considering how the recoil is pulled a little farther out with the shotgun as far as how the Holofelt recoil is applied through the action, the first gen scope should ride on that shotgun, correct? Oh, it'll live on top of the 12 gauge. The problem is eye relief. But you know what? That gun is what they call a, oh, it loads straight. The recoil goes straight down the gun. instead of the gun riding up like a gun with a Monte Carlo stock where the barrel is clearly above your shoulder and when that force is being used to move the bullet through the barrel, the barrel is moving back and just by its basic configuration. That AR platform should be a lot better, particularly with a flat top. Not that that lowers the barrel, but that lowers weight on top also, doesn't it? It brings that weight up on top closer to the barrel. That should be a really good thing. If you can work with your eye relief, maybe a longer boot, maybe that ride that recoil out because you still want to bring your eye up to the boot even if it's just real close to the boot. All you have is that little PD, the American Bulldog. That's what that was, the American Bulldog on the little rascals. You know that dog with a black eye. The circle around the eye. Yeah. A fake monocle. That was the whole thing. He was like, yeah, a monocle. Hey, look at that. He's an English dog. No, he's not. He's an American. Yep. If you keep that green light to a minimum, you're not doing bad compared to white light. Let's, you know, let's frame that up for the unpleasant future that first generation is going to bring us. I don't see a problem. And we've, the manufacturer says no problem that that gun sight on top of a 12 gauge. And so again, that would be a good combination. And again, guys, we were talking about the basic silhouette means that in the team, the shotgun would not be readily identifiable from anything else if the team's outfitted with ARs. It wouldn't really be identifiable, except perhaps once it starts being used or employed. Because yeah, that'll be the big difference there. The other thing is remember that that semi-auto shotgun with 500 grain SABO slugs is good out to 200 yards in OTAC drive. It'll keep it in a pie plate. So, you're looking at a, again, what are the, considered to be the normal engagement range parameters for the M16, but instead of a 55-grain bullet, a 500-grain copper hourglass projectile. Here comes a locomotive. Yeah, and it's still got lots of velocity too, at 200 yards. Yeah. So, just something to think about there. But again, the night vision of the application is especially critical because we're looking at 24-7 combat operations on the North American continent against the globalists here very, very quickly. The other thing here again is there are monoculars available. Don, let's say that I wanted to grab a spotting monocular to go along with that unit. What's the best price we can go or what perhaps would we want to step up a little higher to give the person a little more performance? Go ahead. We've got a three power first generation. viewer. Again, it's a green screen. That will go right in your mailbox for $205. There is a five-power version of that device. I've never had an inquiry on it, so I don't have the price at my fingertip. I haven't bothered to look up the price mark. I could probably have it before the top of the hour. The next grade up, you guys, would be into a second generation device. There is a second generation viewer. I've talked about this device a lot. It's one of the most consistent things I've ever seen. As far as the performance of the tube and the cleanliness of the tube, the manufacturer wants $1,000 for it. That would get delivery for it. I can put it in your mailbox for $9.80. That's a second generation viewer. That's the same viewer mark that a number of years back I was at your house and took a number of people outside and showed them first generation with the question, if you've never used night vision before, let's go outside if you have an interest. And a number of people did. I showed them a first generation piece and everybody went, ooh. But the step up in performance from first to second, I showed them the second generation piece and a lot of people went, ooh, again. It was the device I'm talking about. It's 2.8 power and it's simply a tube. It's a monocular with a second generation night vision tube. It's a very consistent performer. That's what I like most about that device. Now the manufacturer says, well, you can use that. We've talked about using night vision devices as gun sights. They sell cradles and bridges so you can hold this in front of your daylight device or hold it behind your night vision device, your daylight scope. This goes over to being a jack of all trades. If it's in front of your daylight scope, be it a 4-power or 3-9, you don't have a big rubber boot on your daylight scope, do you? You can put one on your daylight scope and then bring your eye up to the boot. Now you've concealed that light. Now that's pretty close, but it gets pretty awkward with that light vision hanging out there in front of the gun. It gives you a lot of forward weight, much like the German stick guns with the bipod all the way to the front. That's a real stable platform. Because when you pick up that pistol grip and bring that gun to your shoulder you have you know half of the weight the bipod holding the other half when you start to move that bipod back you start to balance that gun and then it's more like well the gun is in the air you have to control it more instead of it's just natural lay controlling it. Try that sometime if you can move your bipod around on your rifle some rifles have slots some are the bipod goes to a fixed position. Generally, if it goes to a fixed position, you might notice that it goes as far out as it can and still be sturdy. Talking about, well, it goes out as far out as it can and it's bolted to the barrel. It goes out as far as it can and it's still affixed to the stock somehow. But again, you guys, there are a number of different ways we can run when you're working with a gun or even just as an example, the way it lays or feels on that bipod. There is another thing that would really come in handy, and we haven't brought this to the hour in a while. You see them in really fancy ways here in the 21st century, but them old Kentucky riflemen, a lot of those rifles were built in Pennsylvania. Them old Kentucky riflemen, they carried a rifle. and they carried with them many times a stick about as tall as their shoulder and it had there it had one of them little you know crook in the stick like there was going to be another branch there a little crotch in the top where they could lay that rifle right into it. Now it wasn't as stable as a bipod but it helped stabilize the front of that gun if you held your hand in the right place be it on the gun or on the stick. When you find yourself in some areas in Michigan to Missouri, to Florida, over even to Arizona and sometimes and even into New Mexico, sometimes of the year, laying on the ground, you're completely concealed. If someone's 100 yards away from you when it's really green, you're laying down in the tall grass. Granted in Arizona, this might be for a month, you know, but then it's dry and green and falling back down, dry and brown and falling back down, you know. If you can't, if your bipod won't lift your gun, to the top so you can see over the sea of grass. Oh, I did that on purpose. A shooting stick might be him. Sometimes your bipods will have extendable legs and you can get the front of that gun up to a foot and a half up in the air. But what if the grass is two feet tall? What if the grass is three feet tall? When they moved across the continent, Mark, that Lewis and Clark fellow, they got into places where the prairie grass was taller than a man. The prairie grass was taller than a man. When you are moving through that and it is cutting you like many people know, moving through some parts of jungle in Vietnam, it just cuts you. Saw grasses you and tears you at you. You are moving through it and you are parting it because it is taller than a man. You take another step and you move a little more and you take another step and there is a bear. don't sound like a lot of fun when your gun will only go bang once. At any rate, when you want to elevate that gun over that the top of the grass, a shooting stick might be a good thing. You guys can get some shooting sticks that are like 26 inches tall, that's down, and they'll just extend out like a telescope to about the height of your shoulder. They'll be high-tech, modern metal carved out of a hunk of wood in one position. Because even if there was another notch off the bottom lower part of that shooting stick, I'd just make one that has a notch lower down. Well, when you stick it up in the air, you're kind of putting a flag up above you, aren't you? And you bring the gun up and you're just over the grass and you bring your eye up to the site and you don't want to get any higher than LaHaye wanted to. There's a point there. That's the story all unto itself. But man, you've got that whole mast above you. as you start sending stuff downrange, well, look over there. That stick wasn't there 10 minutes ago. Someone on the other side might be saying, send a mortar that way. Bad news. A shooting stick might be a real good thing. And I mean, you know, we got on a pretty good topic of guns this evening as far as broad brush, but it's not weapons Wednesday. But you guys, the ability to adapt to the circumstances, to the environment, to your surroundings makes things a lot easier, doesn't it, Mark? It makes things a lot easier. Oh, absolutely. One of the things that we've been talking about here is standardizing your equipment to your environment. Chemouflage patterns, even when you use other material or even support material, always think about not modifying or at least not exposing what would not normally be exposed if at all possible. Or if you do, you have to color it. You change it. You conceal it. Are there any examples of using a stick like that? It's not the stick that would necessarily give you away, though having a little bit of a disruption in the camo pattern or how you wrap it with camo tape, whatever you're going to do. The new rag tape, which of course is dull and cloth. It's cloth. It really blends in. A bare piece of branch that's been ripped off where you've made a naming stick but you've broken it. and you rip off too much bark, that ripped or exposed bark is enough to expose your position. It becomes a straight line. How many straight lines do you see in nature? An extreme contrast because it shouldn't be exposed. The coloration is wrong and it's what people are looking for. Even if it isn't moving. So some of the things taken into consideration with regard to camouflage, there are some things that are great price but if they don't work in your area, They may work seasonally like desert camo works seasonally if you have fall and winter Maybe you have winter, but you don't have snow or much of it. You have mostly brown out Then the desert colorations can work quite well for you. But if you have winter, then you do go from a thatch or you go into a thatch brown that actually is the stark tan, almost white tan, light color, bleached colors from the death stalks of grass and whatever else is out there in the field of comparable reeds, example, swamp reeds. There's an amount of that out there in every situation. And trying to find the perfect camouflage that does everything just doesn't exist. There are things that work better to subdue the eyes, eliminate the eyes attraction, subdue the mind, so to speak, mellow it out so it doesn't become as exciting to observe, doesn't catch the eye. That's one of the reasons you want to match up gear or equipment basically by color range. If you are using a particular pattern, try to match everything up. If it's reasonably priced or cheaper, that especially becomes an advantage situation. That's why I was talking about Woodland through the two-hour block and I brought it up again with some of the conversations. It didn't get a whole lot of break during the one-hour break, but there were different conversations that we had on this subject. and that have brought up and it's obvious guys there are certain patterns that are just readily available they do work they're not as sophisticated per se but they're as sophisticated as they were for the time that they were issued based upon how they were supposed to perform there was an expected level of performance. Woodland Camel will work just fine for most of what you're doing OD Green will work well The important thing is to understand how to not draw attention through, again, signature reduction. Eliminating what are known lines that register in your mind and breaking them up. At the very least, breaking them up so that they're not something you become cognizant of. It doesn't draw your attention. That's really what camouflage is all about. Can it make you feel warm and fuzzy as if something belongs? Even if it's only temporary, but it belongs. It doesn't bring your mind to it. That's what you're looking for. Even covering the face. Facial construction and skin are the two things that really jump out. You can have the best blasted camouflage. In fact, look at a lot of the publicity images that are done. What is it that jumps out? You've got a guy in real tree or oak, and I don't care what pattern it is, and it blends in beautifully, but it just doesn't quite blend in because the face and the neck isn't covered, and you can see a little bit of pink human flesh. Now, that kind of defeats the purpose behind what you were doing, so you need to remember that that needs to be done away with, but it's left in an advertising or promotional image, so you have something to reference to. Then you go, well, not only that, but that could be my face in that picture, Don! I need that. Fill in the blank, whatever it is. But consider that if you were doing the job right, it would be more than just a little difficult for the person, for anybody observing to find you in the image. That in and of itself is why you have to, even when you're doing theater production, if you're doing movies, You have to break it up to a degree so that there is something for people to actually catch their eye to. Now, when you do it right and everybody is concealed, for people who are in the know, that impresses them. But for the average person, they're not used to that idea. So the guy that's the hero has to not wear a hat and always has to have that very particular haircut that you just can't miss from front or back to know that the hero and his fellow heroes are there. While everybody else is a common soldier, wears all that body armor and helmets and everything else that I just don't know why they wear it. The hero survives without it. Why are you, what do you have it on? Oh, maybe this isn't a movie. Mark. Anyway, we got a caller. Who do we have? George? Go in there. Yeah. I know this is like a, it's about like less than two months away, but I was thinking about, do they have any woodland autumn camo? Your best bet is to really go probably with the oak. If you're not going to go, I mean woodwind actually blends in to a degree, but when you get into the brown then it has a certain amount of tan and brown shading obviously. The idea was to come up with a balance for an army of fighting forces that has issued all one type of camo pattern. If you're looking for more of the a la Naturale, the oak and the real tree variants that are built for different parts of the country are probably the better way to go for fall. If you really did want to, you could look around and find stuff. I always watch for it at the resale shops, like the restore shop, places where they eat in thrift stores. Because you'll find a piece here and a piece there. And I've actually piled up a bag full, everything from a hand warmer I got for free, which Probably cost $35 from Cabela's. Shirts, jackets, even gloves. And the gloves I found in a weird place. But for fall, they're the better pattern to work with. It's just that, again, if you're looking for mill spec and you're looking for stuff that's off the shelf that's cheapest, going into the Browns, I'll tell you, if we could find it, a good pattern would be the reverse brown pattern on the Vietnam era helmet covers. Remember that there is oak green on one side and there is oak brown on the other. Originally that was a 1955 camouflage pattern that was standard and was going to be used for every piece of equipment in the US military and it was built but it was never issued to the troops completely. Another place if you were in service at the right time is that particular pattern. Everything was reversible. It had green on one side. It had oak brown on the other with oak leaf pattern. That was really a good pattern for fall pretty much anywhere across the US. And I've used it extensively because I was just in the right place at the right time and ended up with pieces of this, pieces of that. I even have the shelter halves. My shelter halves that I carry on my gear are the Type 55 gear. What about the gear camouflage from China's import? Oh, there's a bunch of stuff right now. In fact, I would go for, you know, we talked about that during the two hour block to a degree. Right now, for instance, Major Surplus has the brown pattern Chinese pants, but they don't have the shirts. Nobody does that I could find. The pants are quite cheap, actually about $12 a pair, and they come up and even the extra large sizes. It's a good pattern for for any great Michigan pattern, but what I could see the color range is perfect The problem is getting all of it one piece now about a year and a half two years ago the Tibetan Tarn came in and It's perfect for Michigan. I mean I already have a set of that and we experimented with that a couple years ago because I got it cheap Problem is almost as quickly as it came in they started selling out because everybody snagged on to it They had the patrol hats. They had the booney hats and they had the Tibetan Tarn tops and bottoms. They didn't have any coats, but then the coats came in later, a small lot of them, probably about 600 and that was it. Now those are available from the Renner Revolution companies, the communist Chinese companies. If you go to, if you do a search for uniforms, for wholesale uniforms at the jobber end, you can get those uniforms in all sizes and the tops and bottoms run about $6.50 a top, $6.50 a bottom, but you have to buy 500 to 1,000 pieces at a time. Well, Mark, I know if I ever go with the Woodland, like what to say with the Duck Dynasty China sports stuff, I know I planned ahead. I bought the thermal reduction, US Army issue boxer shorts and T-shirts under T-shirts. Gov Liquidation has those available right now in their sales and clearance section at Uncle Sam's retail outlet. You can find them around. You want mill spec. They're made copies. There were copies made that are the right color. I don't know if they have the thermal reduction, but the regular military contract ones obviously are spec. Those are actually something that's really desirable to have in addition to the long john sets. Now, the Long John sets that are in the same color also have a full IR reduction soaking. The reduction retardant material is there. Now you're talking. Yeah, now you're looking at arms, you're looking at your torso. But you see the idea is it's all core. It's layers. The underpants, the crotch area is hot. Not just on girls, but everybody. The t-shirt obviously, you know, covering the torso again, but it was a layered system. Then you put your, if you were cold weather, you put the long johns on the brumbar suit, which is, you know, the bottoms and tops. And then you put the woodland uniform on, which is also IR reduction. So by the time you are done, if everything is spec and it's all military issue, US mil issue, the original PASGAT system combined with the Woodland system and all of the thermal layers below it were supposed to reduce the overall imagery to include the top of your head with a standard coffee can hat by about 68 to 80 percent. depending upon average temperature, what operational temperature is working. Obviously you're a thermal, you're a flare in hot weather, but if it's 90 some degrees, you really don't have all put off all that big a signature because the environment's almost as hot as you are. There's not that much contrast for the site to work with. And in Don, as you've seen, we've pointed out, it's hard to pick out something when they're, it's all in the same frying pan. Yeah, exactly. But the bacon looks so much like the eggs. Francisco Munoz, Councilor Esquard, Councilor Roz is saying if any county ever quarantines these contagious people, they're going to follow a rid of habeas corpus. Yeah, well, first of all, they're not Americans, so good luck. And second, 99% of the time, the courts themselves aren't acknowledging writs. We ought to know. We've filed many, many of them and I've watched how those suckers have arbitrarily ignored or brushed right by a writ of habeas corpus. Now they shouldn't, but hey, if they're selective and all of a sudden honor a foreigner's writ when Americans are ignored completely, another reason they need to be shot right out of their chairs. But that's one of the problems. These are not Americans. And no, they are here under, it's an illegal activity they're involved in. They are not afforded the same protections. They do not have the right to the same protections. They're under the assumption, the very fact that they're doing what they're doing under the assumption that they're going to not only be given protections, but actually given what is a supremacy category because any other individual with the probability of flight that is demonstrated by the numbers here, you would have to have light pumped to you and it'd be a cold day in hell before you'd be let out of jail. And yet we know that between 80 and 96 percent of these pieces of trash that go into those courts do not come back. And the other half of the inequity here and again the insult is there's no bench warrant issued that is properly honored or that they go rabid over like the federal marshals when they go pissed with Americans left and right. Another reason to shoot their ass. And I'm talking about the regime because this whole thing is a sham from the get go. And that's what everybody's putting out. Really? Here's how it works. They're foreigners. They don't have a right. No. I have no compassion for them. No. Because they're trying to use my compassion. So no, I don't care. Ship their arse out, do it now, be done with it. They should have been turned around the moment they hit the ground, walked over to the spot and thrown over. And that's all we need to keep repeating. I have no interest in them anymore. And I have no interest in talking. And there's no debate. That's our mistake. They're playing on us. That's why I won't talk to them. That's why I have no interest in debating. They need to be thrown out of this country. Anybody that supports the idea needs to be thrown over that fence right behind them. That will settle it real quick and the debate is done. Well, they legitimately could, but here's the thing. In fact, I'll ask this again because everybody needs to think this through. If right now your children were found with scabies, do you have any idea what would happen to you? If your child tried to plop your child, let's say your child had bed bugs, scabies, whatever, and you tried to plop one of those children into a public area like say a child care facility, what do you think would happen next? They'd tell me to come get them. No, they wouldn't you'd have child perverted services on your sorry hind end so quick They might tell you to come and get them but that's only because it's easier to bring the victim to whoever's gonna grab you In other words that you know while the cops would be right there child services would be right there and your artists would be grassed and the lawnmower was going through it You see what I mean? Think about it. What would they do? Oh, they'd be rabid There would be child abuse charges and negligence charges and you'd be in jail and how could we let that monster out? Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Think about it. Look at all the garbage we've watched over the years. So here we are with these arbitrary leftist pieces of trash. We've got a wave of virtual auto casualties. Well, the latest one is bed bugs. I don't know if you caught the one. Actually, no, forgive me, I'm crossing a story there. Did everybody catch the story about the Congressional Building bed bug contamination? Oh, that'll get their attention. Did you see that in the news? No, I did. George, have you seen it in the news? No, I haven't. I think it's in Henry's Scroll, but somebody else sent it to me as an email. Well, remember when we went to Congress, you know, this is in the Congressional Building where the Iron Mountain statue is that everybody misses because it's so stinking big it's part of the building? When you hear the term, you know, a report from Iron Mountain, that wasn't from someplace out in the country. It was from that Congressional Building, guys. They were playing tongue-in-cheek. Now, in that building, I guess it was yesterday, What they do is they have sitters, people who come in and sit down and stand in line so they can get a seat at a congressional hearing. There are people that are paid to do this. Well, a bunch of people were sitting there, they were in line, and they were standing there waiting. One of the women that was standing there noticed this other woman standing there who had, well, mugs started crawling all over her. She wasn't just mildly infested. She was like, oh, they're kind of hopping off and spreading like wildfire. Well, it turns out that one of the bathrooms was completely contaminated so they had to shut down the bathroom. The cool thing is it's got all the congressional people locked in their offices because they're terrified to go out and get bed mugs. None of them want to sit down or use the toilet, which to me they're probably peeing in the waste baskets. Well, I heard the EPA was, to stop boredom, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were Well, that's the kind of stuff that the animals do. You've got to remember, who did you hire? You hired queers. They've got the feces rainbow patch. Remember, black is hepatitis C. That's when the feces turns like a really dark, dark black and is horrible smelling. And then you've got varying shades of disease. And the yellow at the bottom is for yellow showers for the queers that want to bathe in urine. So that's what you get with government employees and offices when they're all queer. I'm telling you, I've seen stuff up. One of the plumbers years ago, he goes, Mark, you wouldn't believe what I did. Really? I went into one of the apartments and this is housing for the U of M. He goes, I came in and I knocked on the door. We beat on the door, guys. I have the guys beat on the doors. You make noise, they'll wake up everybody in a building or a hallway. You don't just knock. They're high. Well, anyway, no answer. So he has the master keys and he goes in. He couldn't see in the dark, he's looking around and then he realizes he thinks he sees three sets of eyes looking back at him. But while he's watching that he hears, and this guy going, they were having special, shall we say, feces sex. That's where they scat, where they defecate into each other's face and it's their idea of having sex. Which by the way, in the U of M Safe Sex Manuals, it says that scat eating is not safe sex. unless you take certain precautions. And I don't know about eating feces in any way where you could take any special precaution to make it acceptable. Except, well, hey, it's a queer thing, so it's one of those alternate lifestyle things you just got to embrace. And, well, Willie, he looked in the door there, he saw those eyes, he heard the feces flying, and he goes, I just very quietly said, ooh, and shut the door and locked it and went down the hall as fast as I could. And I didn't want those lucky strong feces on me. Would you hear about what Planned Parenthood said? They say they advise children to experiment by pooping on your sex partner. Yeah, well that means those people that are in Planned Parenthood need to be 12k'd out of this existence. Anyway, wherever you go sir, Don, your number for night vision please. Dead numbers 231796, 8458. God bless the republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. For us, nothing but a massive dose of the police state. For illegal aliens, assisting to make sure the police state attacks us, while doing absolutely nothing to deal with them. They are the excuse for all the rest of the hatred that will be pushed against the American people. Don, your number for night vision closes, please. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless America. It becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another. and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them. A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. 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