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But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors, so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedom for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torture of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is to still the land and good Evening. Evening ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Burkey. And I'm Don Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east and north. Well ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on... 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Don, it is medium temperature, weather is still, of course ahead towards sunset. Mixed cloud cover, what is it like in your neck of the woods and what is the date today? What is jumping off the wall? Go ahead please. Mark, it is the 22nd day of July, the year of our Lord 2014 and that is a particular day. that encourages me to introduce a magazine to the magazine. Well, touch the slide release and now we got one in the chamber and we can tell everybody it is Weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure and there's plenty more where that came from. That means we can offer equal opportunity, coercive force, the ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well, it is a beautiful Weapons Wednesday. A couple things here real quick. I checked on those vests. There are about 50 of the 8 color desert which is a multi cam these are at Rap4.com for those of you who didn't hear what we were talking about we'll repost again in the chatroom there. Again www.rap4.com that's rap4.com rap4.com Go to clearance, go to the vests in the clearance section. Assault vests, they have a number of different models, but the eight color multi cam slash eight color desert, that's the no name brand knockoff version guys, who cares. And the price is $20 for these assault vests. Multi pocket, they've got all the components on them you need. They're in a Mali system. The panels snap on, snap off, so you can go, you can even switch out the systems to other items. Other components are available if you want to buy, separate, or change something out once you get them. But for $20 a piece, you are getting a complete system. Now these also have the pistol belt hangers on the base so that you can add a US pistol belt and add more pouches that way, which is what I would do. Anyway, that is www.rep4.com, rap4.com. Then go to clearance, then go to the vests in the clearance section. And that's probably the best price. However long they last or until they jack the price up. If they start to move, I wouldn't be surprised if the price goes up. I've watched this happen before. Just telling you in advance, right now they're $20. They have ACU CAD-PAT, which is really, the CAD-PAT Digital is very similar in color range and shadings. to the Norwegian standard pine camouflage which has the darker shades of green and black for the pine forest colors. It's not tiger stray but it has those shade ranges. The CAD-PAT works really well but it will mix with any of the other digital, especially woodland digital. You could work with both and nobody would know the difference. For the most part they wouldn't. The Woodland Camo, they have a couple of different vests. The ACU, a couple of different models. They've got tactical riflemen and utility. The utility are multi-pouch, really big pouch pockets all over the place. Shoulders, backside, frontside will take molly gear, plenty of accommodations for other equipment. and all kinds of places to hang stuff. So check them out. The pictures give you a great deal of information. Plus you can go to the rest of the RAP4 page and they'll explain each of the systems. So you don't even have to guess. But for $20 this is a great cache item. This is a great 510 program item. Or just basic gear. So again, it's in the AssaultVest slash the hanger vest system. They do offer The same vest in multiple other camouflages and they do offer the components for the systems that are being offered right now. So yes, you could add more or change up the equipment. ACU, CAD-PAT, Woodland Camo Standard, not initial, Woodland Camo Standard. and one vest that is 8 color desert which is multi cam. Everybody just got to have the multi cam and when they could afford it for like $200, well guess what? $20 and you can put a whole lot of spares in a bin so when your people show up that don't have gear and don't have uniforms, make sure you cover their hairy hind end with what they're supposed to. Rather than wearing a red t-shirt or a bright blue t-shirt or tennis shoes, make sure you square them away and remind them to try to get boots or something dark on. In other words, start gearing them towards, focus them towards, remind them that they need to be properly outfitted when they show up for an FTX, even if they're a new member. It's very simple to coach them. If they don't have the gear because they're a new member and they're attending and they pay, they just wanted to look and see what's going on and they're going to join or they just joined, but they're not outfitted, have a quarter master trunk ready to go. Don, I know you answered this question during the two hour block, but once again, let's remind everybody, there have been some questions again about night vision on pistols. Now, if the night vision was one of those little weapons that might have a big long barrel but no stock and was stable enough, night vision might be an option if it was a rifle or if it was a light rifle cut down to pistol format. There are problems with the handguns simply by the nature of how we have to use them, recoil, etc. Go over that again for our listeners just in case this hour our person that was writing in and asking the questions, maybe they need that question answered now. Go ahead. Well, there was a piece of night vision particularly designed to go on top of a pistol. It was, oh, the viewing screen was as big as the device itself as far as the width and height of the device because it was meant to be held at arm's length mark. And you know, the farther away something gets, it has to do with light rays and whatnot, you know, moving out, not all in a straight line. The smaller it gets. So they made that screen about two inches big at arm's length, so it would still be a discernible thing, you know, instead of being like a postage stamp, like moving a piece of night vision, a regular rifle scope out to arm's length. You'd be looking at something that appears to be about the size of a postage stamp. Got a two-inch screen there, no boot. You'd need really to be effective, you'd need a boot about two feet long, the rubber cup, because when you hold that pistol up and you press the power switch, it's a pressure switch on and off, light comes out of the end of the device so that you can see the light. the green light from the back of the night vision device. It shines on your face, your head, your shoulders, and your arms as they reach out there to hold that gun up. That's not real good for staying hidden in the dark when you put a little green light. It's let's shoot the goblin time, that green thing over there that's shooting at us. That's what that amounted to. So the pistol scope came up and it hung around for a little while. Then it Well, it was discontinued in the building to for mentioned reasons. It would be good to have night vision on a pistol if you know no one else is armed, but you know that's not exactly the world we live in. It would be good if we weren't armed. If the government had night vision on their pistol, that's another way to relate it because we wouldn't be able to shoot back. But as soon as bullets start flying, people get a little irritable and sometimes they want to shoot back. If you look over there and the guy with the handgun, his face is lit up, his arms and his shoulders. If you shoot slightly below that, you're shooting at center of mass. Again, it didn't last long. The same problem would exist if you want to mount a rifle scope on top of a shotgun. Least you can hold that gun steady and bring your eye up to the boot and ride that recoil out introducing into your the flesh around your eye and making it leak. Creating a, if not careful, a divot if you were too close. There are basic rules to a whole bunch of things. It's good to make things easier. It's not good to make things harder. They found that out when they built the night vision thought. You guys, all that light on your shoulders, your face, it kind of goes against the a piece of night vision with a rubber boot on it to hide the light. We've addressed this in a number of different ways even in talking about white light. Now, while we're on that subject, the first generation green screen is going to be moved into history. They will power what they would call rapidly and not too far in the distant future. That's a technical term for the government. from a video camera and use that for light amplification, green screen anymore. You'll be looking at a little black and white TV. You'll have white light coming out of the device. We've talked about this since it came to our attention back in January. Back in January, the thought line was, well, we'll have these to about the end of the year. What is it, July? That's like the seventh month and we've sold out the two power. We're working on the pile of 4 power and making it smaller. And then we've got the 6 power left. Now you wonder why the 6 power or the 4 power should I toss a coin? I would caution that the 6 power is a narrower field of vision going to be harder to acquire a target or harder to lead a target that's moving quickly. Because again, the narrower field of vision, we promoted the 2 power. That's why when the 2-Power went, I didn't just tell you, oh we've got the 6-Power over here, you need to pick that up. You guys were trying to offer you the most serviceable product. 4-Power isn't bad. If you've still got a pretty good field of vision, you've got that extra magnification which can be a help. The company went with a bigger front lens instead of just adding another element of glass in there to create the magnification. So you've got more light gathering ability. We've addressed that before. This is why you don't see 10 and 20 and 30 power night vision because by the time you put that much glass in front of the night vision the image intensifier tube, well not a whole lot of light gets to the tube. So it doesn't have a whole lot to work with so you don't get a whole lot on the ocular side. If you let enough light in like 2, 3, 4 power maybe 6 power you're still going to the two bandit's basic functions. trades thing. The company came up years ago with a daylight scope that has a bayonet attachment on the rear side of it, the eye side, the ocular side, that you can clip a piece of night vision onto. Or you take that off and you put the regular ocular daylight portion back on and you've got a daylight scope. But they went with 3 to 9 power on it. They later fixed that problem by going from 2 to 6 power. When they reduce the amount of magnification, they let a lot more light into the device. Even with a third generation tube in this piece, there is so much glass in front of that when you hang it onto the back, when you take off your daylight fixture and you put on your night vision device at the end of the scope between your scope and the eye. Your eye relief doesn't change. That was one of the cool things about it. If you got into low light, you were itching to turn on the illuminator because there was so much glass in front of the tube. That's another example of it. They sell these pieces, they sell them into certain niches. I've sold only a couple of them over the years with this aforementioned caveat. Warning. Now we could go on, you guys. Let's wind up this segment with, hey, if you're looking for night vision, If you want first, second, third generation, if you're looking, I can get fourth generation, we've talked about that. If you're looking for thermal, be it a viewer or a gun sight, we can move into that world too. My number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-858. Goggles are gun sights, green screens are thermal. If you call the guy with the 800 number, get a price from him and then call me. You probably won't call that 800 number back. They are showing you this computer image where he has this fantastic night vision image through the lens of the pistol night vision scope. Of course what they don't show you are what they can't display because they are using backlighting and frontlighting anyway to illuminate the picture. You would have nothing to look at in the dark. It is the idea that in reality with no cover, no cup, that screen is washing not just the face. It is washing everything. Any light where it's illuminating an area like this is broadcasting, guys. So what would reality be like? I should point this out. Let me explain something. Years ago we were being hunted by the state police. At a given point after having avoided the dogs, we came across a series of pickets. At 100 A little under 100 yards. I'm watching through the trees across an area where there's an intersection and we want to move across beyond that road, that intersection. I see something that looks like a moon. Seriously guys, the first thing that came to mind, I'm tired, we've been going for two days straight, nonstop moving around, three days in the field where it had been out all that time. Again, it was damp, it was early fall. The moisture is sucking heat out of you. We're tired, we've been moving, we've deceived the dog several times. We've avoided virtually more than 150 people on the ground at fairly close quarters. Well, they're behind us and we're moving forward and I see this moon and I'm trying to think, what the hell? Now, I'm not seeing that clearly because of the moisture in the air. So we're moving forward gradually. As I move to the edge of this thick tree line, which is actually in a V, the way there is a road to the right and a road to the left, and I'm watching and I finally, as I get closer, it's obviously something moving. What it is, there is a character inside a car with the windows rolled up, with the interior dash lights on. holding a piece of night vision that he is trying to use while he is scanning from inside the car so he doesn't get wet, doesn't get cold, he has got the heater running. Thank you, Lord. Boy, that is too lazy. And of course he has got the thing held at arm's length away from him or just far enough away, depending on how he is holding it, in the car that it is not secure to his face. And I am not seeing the night vision device, I am seeing his face. I'm going to aim right there. Well, if it's that clear, you wouldn't even need a piece of night vision on top of the rifle. Just bring it up to the lighted area, you'll look at the notch, you'll walk it up late, and you'll look at the... Well, you wouldn't see the red mist in the dark. No, because it'd be contained, so it wouldn't be spraying all over the place. Plus, it was rain outside. That would have kept it cleaner anyway, and it wouldn't have messed up the car and the gear. But as it is, this is an example we're talking about with light discipline with weapon systems. And consider this, that was with a probably third generation green screen piece of equipment. Imagine with a white phosphor screen what that would have been like. You see what we've been talking about here? The idea that that's why we need to be prepared for and understand there is a reason the gooberman went to a green screen system, right Don? Oh yeah. They don't do anything for the fun of it, right? Exactly. When the Generation Zero was first fielded by the Germans and then by the Americans, it had a red screen. It had a big, ready mitter on the top too, I mean big, like saucer plate big. If you were looking right at it, it would look like someone was cupping a cigarette in their hand, the little bits of red that you would just They are trying to hold a cigarette and balling their hand around it. If you look right at the emitter, either one of the German or American devices would not work. It wasn't a sufficient picture without the additional infrared light. Both of those were red-screened. They did this from the experience of submarines, battleship decks, aircraft. move from a red-lit area out into the night, you wouldn't lose your natural night vision. You'd still have the greatest portion of it, so it wouldn't be so ineffective moving from one area to another. Using that philosophy, they moved it into the night vision killer side. We need red light because it won't destroy our guy's natural night vision. Well, it didn't hurt his natural night vision, but the guy over there with another piece of night vision, that red light, makes your face look like it's on fire. The light discipline that was needed for that was just tremendous. But when they went to green, that green hardly registers on first, second, third, or fourth generation. It registers to your eye just as like any other light would draw attention in the dark. But again, it's not like a flashlight waving around. It's a soft light. We've addressed this in a number of different ways, you guys, but light discipline at night can be a life or death thing, much like noise. Now, noise works day and night too, doesn't it? But if you're trying to use or take advantage of that fallacy known as a power of darkness, darkness is not cover, it's just concealment. You kind of want to be quiet too, don't you? That's the other half of an observation post, isn't it, Mark? listening? Listening post, observation post. The idea is look and listen. You get one person moving through a woods, they can be fairly quiet with all the gear and equipment they might be carrying even with an extra ammo can. Okay, lugging a couple of cans through the woods. They still make noise. Six people, five people, ten people, a little more noise. You put a company through the woods, try to keep them quiet. If they don't have good noise discipline, 120 to 140 men moving through an area can make a series of significant mistakes that would make them a target of opportunity, either for ambush or for indirect fire support. Take your pick. Either way, it's called hurt. Enough noise will call in the artillery if it's available to the other side. They'll estimate the size. by the amount of noise and well, hey that's more than we want to deal with. Let's let Artie take care of it. Or again mortar or artillery, either one. We have a caller, who do we have? George from Texas, I got a dumb night vision question. Can you catch a night vision, got you a crossbow? I've had that question a number of times as of late. Yeah, no problem. In particular, my piece that's going to the first generation 308 capable second generation, I can do that in third generation too. I first did that back in 1997, maybe 1998. With a bow and arrow, by the very nature of the weapon, you detach your night vision to you. You have to use the night vision as an enhancer and then because of your experience with day shooting, You'd go over to Nightfire that way. It doesn't mean a bow couldn't be used. Right. Again, that goes back to being at arm's length. I tried doing that. I still have one of those pistol pieces that ATN built most of 20 years ago. I still have one with the thought line that eventually I'd just move it onto the bow and take the king's deer at night. Now, you really didn't hear me say that, but you just did, didn't you? I can't back it up. It's out there in the ether now. On a crossbow, generally you've got a, if it's going to be built for the adaptability of a site at all, it might come with a little four-power daylight site. That's probably going to thumbscrew down onto a Weaver or a Picatinny rail, George. If you were to put the piece of night vision right on that, Well, it's a bit forward and we go back to that wash thing, don't we? The light coming out of the device lighting up your face. That's not so bad if it's a deer. Deer don't shoot back, do they? But you might want to purchase another double rail, rail on the top, rail on the bottom. Thumb screw it to the rail on the... And you might want to pay attention to how thick it is because they come in different sizes. Like you can get them like a half inch, three quarters, an inch and a half. They get real hollow and skeletonized. But you don't want to lift that up too high. You want to move the device back so that you can bring your eye to the boot and keep the form. We've been talking about the light that comes out of a night vision device for most of the hour now. When you conceal that, you can do some pretty neat things with the crossbow too George. Like all spousal of a sentry. Real quiet if you don't want to get up close. And, crossbows have been used in all of the modern wars so far. I don't know about Iraq for sure, but Vietnam obviously, Korea most definitely, Special Forces and other groups used crossbows along with the Vietnamese who used their customary Montagnard crossbows or their Highland bows. In Korea, the Rangers used crossbows. They resurrected them, had them built. They were about 150 pound-prod and they also had a couple that were 300 pound-prod. They used them to shish kabob truck drivers. It was a great success. The first experience with the crossbow in Korea was for rear area of operations. Again, the idea was to be quiet. They picked a truck that was moving by itself. fired on the driver's door, the truck kind of stopped, there wasn't any noise, rolled to a stop. They went up and checked and the bolt went through the driver. One of the bolts stapled him to the door, the other one went through the driver and then hit the other person on the other side, who had also been shot from up the other direction with another shooter, the rider in the truck. And both were very dead, dead, dead. So, modern crossbows, well, more than enough accounts of how to use it effectively. And again, for saving ammunition or for security operations, remember crossbow bolts can be recovered. Bullets take a little more manufacturing, but if you use crossbows for certain types of defense or at least area defense to support rifles, Crossbow bolts can be made out of many different things and down the road they can be pulled back out of the body and reused again. Here's a little tip. You've got to win to gain the right to police the area. Yeah, exactly. Somebody I talked to online Special Force, he says for taking out snipers on the outside of a checkpoint, he said he would prefer using bow or crossbow, bow and arrow or crossbow because it's silent. Right, there is still noise with a silenced firearm. That is the one thing that say Hollywood tries to condition everybody to that they are absolutely quiet. In reality, there are ways to quiet. We have talked about this balance of powder to bullet, again, barrel length. So there are ways to make a weapon virtually quiet that does not have to have a silencer. There are some wicked combinations of broadhead or scimitar head tips that can be put on any crossbow or on a conventional bow, recurve or standard. Forgive me, recurve or compound. They would be deadly. There's a gentleman here in Michigan who created what's called a double scimitar broadhead. The thing starts out looking like a rather strange, four point scalloped spire, like a standard broadhead. But as it makes contact, the set retaining pins are pushed away by the target's body, by the flesh. The scimitars progressively open up while the arrow is spiraling through the target. I've seen the meat where he did test a subject activity off. It was up by a hole where he was doing the shooting. On a live target, it cut a channel of 3 inches that somebody took a butcher knife and just kept stabbing repeatedly all the way through the torso or all the way through the shoulder of the animal. Right through the heart, right through the other side, it started boring out the other side. What it is is that the individual blades are spring loaded so they are allowed to fly or flail So, once they penetrate as a point and then they penetrate into the body and the retainers are pushed away, you still have all the energy of that bow, the bolt or in this case the arrow moving through, and it spirals and creates a random cookie cutter slicing process. And it's just wicked. However, any vital organ it hit, it just destroyed. to the chest cavity or any organs. It doesn't mean there's going to be an immediate kill. It's going to be a, well I got him, but he's going to take a little longer to die. That's one of the things to remember if you're chopping somebody inside with something like that. An artery, bleed internally, is just as good as any other kind of kill. That is something that is most common. A lot of people die after the fact where they get wounded and the doctors have done everything and didn't realize there was an artery or a vein that was very close to failure that was nicked. You'd be standing there and the guy will take another four minutes to live. It can be even years after he's been wounded. When he fixes up all the other leaks and brings the blood pressure back up, that's when the smaller ones start to kill. Plumbing kills. Oh, and Arrow is really notorious for it. There are a lot of wicked things you can do. Barbing, rusting. It used to be they would intentionally use iron and rust them. They didn't keep them clean. They actually would pee on them. The reason for that? Well, do you see any tetanus shots back there in the Middle Ages? Oh no. Mark, would these arrows go through body armor? I don't know how they, well most airbow, most of the broadheads will do quite well against armor. In fact, I'm going to remind everybody, Second Chance did not guarantee their armor against two things, crossbow bolts and ice picks. Most people don't know that. It's a woven material and it's also a fairly heavy dense weave. It's a fairly thick weave. So an ice pick, in fact that was one of the first casualties years ago. We're talking when Second Chance first came out and they were the big body armor company. When they came up with Threat Level One, one cop was stabbed with an ice pick in Chicago. Gee, what a surprise. That's a shy town classic. It went through the vest. Now I'm sure whoever it was, Bruno was probably like 6'6", had ham sized hands. Mr. Ice Pick had lots of energy behind that focal point and it got through the body armor and did what it was supposed to do. That's a fact. Obviously threat level one, the earliest threat level one, that simple armor handled light caliber, typically that was the threat back in the day or lead bullet. Threat 2 obviously took over very quickly and was already being offered but it became the dominant. I want to get better for more money, why not? And then 3, 4, etc. Heavy rifle and all the other fun stuff they've got. The thing is that we've gone full circle to steal. I'm kind of laughing at that to a degree. Granted, it works. Do you realize how much crap we made to make things ultra light because of all that archaic stuff from World War I and we've gone full circle right back to virtually every aspect in terms of the battle weight of everything? Those steel plates everybody's raving about? That's 1911, 1913. In fact, you can see all the still pictures and even some moving pictures showing the steel suits of homogeneous armor plates and front plates, just like the ones that are being worn now that the troops were wearing or had available. Even shock trauma faceplates made out of steel. Most of their designs, and in fact all the helmet designs from World War I, Virtually both sides, the Austro-Hungarian and the Germans and the British, the French and whatever, went to their archaic museums and selected their designs based upon medieval armor. That's World War I, slash, the Great War. That's why if you take a look at the British, you know, law, if you take a look at the British Doughboy helmet, as it's called, Take a look at the typical mid-15th and 16th century infantry armor helmet that was used by the rank and file peasant. What's funny is if you look at the French helmet, go back through their history and look at their designs. Now what's really interesting is the German coleskuttle comes from the other direction. Look at the Teutonic knight helmets. So, everybody goes, this is all modern times. Guys, I ain't seen too much. It's really all that modern. It's cool design. I mean, great ideas. They were perfected from experience. Otto was wearing that new helmet, the other one, and he kind of cleaved him right at the throat. Maybe he should have put that step in the back of the helmet fritz. Yeah, I think we'll do that. We'll put a step in the back and flare it a little bit so it deflects the shield, deflects the stroke. Yeah, good idea. All of those were perfected from experience in having to deal with hacking and chopping rules. Mark, I've seen some nights up the heavy steel mesh too. Well, the whole idea of chain mail. Chain mail is not obsolete. In fact, Sergeant Ellsworth, he's dead and gone now, but he taught both Ethan. All of my sons learned to make chain mail. They actually know how to make chain mail from scratch. They've built vests. gauntlets, you name it. I'll tell you what, for most blade defense it really can't be beat. When Kevlar first became a household ward or at least around the police departments they sold a lot of Kevlar gloves with the thought line that they're good for defense against knives. You still see them sold but they don't hardly offer that thought line, do they? It works, but again the advantage is defense, the disadvantage is a combination of weight and articulation. That's really where you get into the balancing act. You can go to a butcher shop or a slaughterhouse you guys and you'll find chain mail gloves there. And Kevlar sleeves. In fact, most of all my boys have Kevlar sleeves because guess what? Grainger offers the Kevlar blade protection off the shelf for a pretty good price. So it's actually quite cheap. And again, for scratches, cuts, gouges, working in areas where it really would come in handy is not just a butcher shop. How many times as a mechanic have you stuck your arm into an area and pushed it arm sideways and gone, I didn't know that was that sharp. Have you guys heard about the shark preventative suits that they wear in the ocean? Oh yeah. Don has been down there staring at the critters below the waves on a regular basis in the past. Go ahead Don. Even back to the people, I don't remember their name. The husband and wife team that did a lot of the live filming for the Jaws movie. They were deploying the chainmail to dive then. The problem with the chainmail is the PSI of the shark bite, the pounds per square inch. In some instances, pressure tips of teeth, you'll get little bites like on your hand or arm. But if they bite hard enough, well they'll break your arm, bite through the chainmail. If it's a big shark and he bites your body, he'll probably crush up internals. We're talking tons of bite. The thing about that is, again, the shark might put its teeth on the steel and immediately release. That's one of the big hopes there, rather than even bite down. Don, I think with chain mail, if it's heavy, you've got the concern of buoyancy in the water, too. That's why you wear a wetsuit. That's why when you wear a wetsuit in the chain mail, you don't wear a weight belt. Yeah, you don't need to. flotation devices for too. You adjust your buoyancy with a little air into your flotation vest, be it on your vest like a Mae West or on your backpack wrapped around your scuba tank. The reason you can't dump it like you can a weight belt. You just let go of your weight belt man and your float. and you don't have to fight to stay on the surface. You're going to get there eventually. Yeah, but that's what the CO2 canister in your, if you're on the surface, that's what the CO2 canister in your flotation device is for anyway. It's quicker than trying to inflate the vest with your breath. Don, I think about two weeks ago we had some kid that went out scuba diving. I think he saw some scary fish in the water in Russia. up and he got a bend and he died in the hospital, up to the surface. You don't want to ascend faster than one foot per second. You can dive all day to 40 feet, you guys. If you don't go below 40 feet, you can burn three or five or ten tanks in a day if you choose to. When you go below 40 feet, you've got to start working your decompression tables. This is a whole different thing. There are different sequences. If you are going to do multiple dives in different places, you want to do your deepest dive first. That way, you do your decompression dive, your time at 10, 20, 40 feet, depending on how deep. You go to a different site and you do a lesser dive. That way, you don't do a lesser dive and a lesser dive and build up and build up and then go to the deep dive and you still got residue. There are different procedures and whatnot, but one foot per second. The basic rule is you don't want to ascend any faster than the bubbles around you. That allows your ears to adjust the air pressure in your mask and the gateway through your sinuses to adjust that, not to mention the ears or your station tubes, your lungs to adjust to the change in pressure. I mean the most I've got was like about 30 feet. I could tell you being down 30 feet you could feel the water. If you're doing things right, if you're taking care of your ears and your mask, balancing the pressure out, everything you shouldn't be something that you're major aware of. Your body is mostly water. It's not like you're feeling yourself being compressed or anything. It's kind of strange. I was watching a dive of the Titanic. I'm surprised fish can survive down that far down, like almost three miles down below the ocean floor. Again, that goes back to their bodies are mostly water too, you know. Water can't compress water. It just acts like it's ambience, it's surroundings. We could go in that direction. How underwater, we could talk about a couple of different things. Have you ever seen a bang stick, George? No. Bang stick might have a shotgun shell on the end of it. It might have a big malleb or pistol. show on the end of it. You introduce the bang stick to the shark's head area and hopefully the shark dies. It's a one shot thing. I've never seen bang stick revolvers. That's an idea. Boom, bak, boom, bak, boom. If you didn't get it with the first one, he probably has a good idea. It's not conducive to good shark health to stick around. 12 gauge. Yeah, there you go. You've got to be careful. Well, Don, one thing I just learned about sharks, when you go out swimming, make sure you don't have any open cuts on you. Yeah, blood draws sharks, I'm told. You know, the thing is, I was surrounded by hammerheads. This is like when I was 15 years old, had open cuts. The only thing that saved my bacon, dolphins, that's the only thing that got saved me, and I was able to swim back to shore. It says, don't be going swimming with those cuts on your legs. Somebody was smelling tastiness. Yeah, well, you know it's better now, right? Well, one of the other things here real quick before we go too far, we were almost head towards top of the earth, so everybody hold for the moment. I want to make sure I get this in here, rap4.com, www, this is for Web Gear guys, assaultvesstrap4.com, www.rap4.com, go to clearance, then go to vests, For those of you who are looking for multi cam equipment, these are multi cam, they've got multi cam, woodland camo, ACU and CAD-PAT. Now there are several different ones, they are $20 a vest. These are assault vests. Take a look at them. You'll recognize the design. They're out there all over the place. It's a clearance thing. I talk to the guys. They do have a good quantity, about 50 of the eight color desert, which is eight color, which is multi cam. It's the no name brand multi cam. So if you're a multi cam aficionado, that's the cheapest you're going to get any kind of multi cam gear for it. It'll outfit more troops, especially if you've got people that don't have their equipment squared away. in your unit because I don't have the money. Well $20 will get you pretty well. 60% of the way done with regard to your basic gear. All of these vests have pistol belt hangers. All of these vests are in the clearance section and they are $20 a piece. You take a look at it. I'm not going to worry about trying to do it at the end of the hour here. They're all good vest systems as far as if it fits your needs. If it's got the right combination, typically all of them have a cross draw chest holster on the left side. These are a MOLLE system. They unsnap and resnap just like the standard MOLLE. You can replace whole panels. So that you are ready to roll there. You can even switch everything out on the vest and go to something else with regard to the panels and the molly points. So just something to think about. Now they do offer all of that at Wrap 4. But this is a complete system. Other than you go buy a pistol belt for $3, $5, $6, everything is there and then you fill up the pouches guys. Add your canteens or your Camel Pack, whatever you are going to do. Congratulations, you are basically there. So, again, www.ratfor.com, then go to clearance, then go to vests. $20 a unit. And then there's some shipping on that. Now Dom, before we go any farther, night vision technology, you have it, not going to have to rush. What do you have available? How can we get hold of you? And what's changing? Go ahead. Hey, we've got that first generation 4 power gun sight. It's .308 capable. We brag that up plenty good. It'll thumbs go down to your Picatinny or your Weaver rail. So if you've got one of those on your rifle, well, you're pretty close to mounting one of these. All you've got to do is call me up. And my number is 231-796-9. I'll put that in your mailbox for $390 you guys. The manufacturer won't sell it to you for any less than $449 or $447. They're going to get delivery beyond that. That $390 includes delivery. As you pointed out earlier in the hour mark, if you can save money on something, you can spend it on something else. Hey, my number is 231-796-84. 5-8-2-3-1-7-9-6-8-4-5-8. Goggles are gun sights. Green screens are thermal. It made me think of something there. Before we close the hour and before we really move away from that thought line of divers, you guys, most every diver knife, every diving knife is really high nickel. It's going to be hard to put an edge on, but it's going to be hard as guns. You'll sit there for three or four lifetimes before you start to see any rust on them, well you'll still have to take care of them. Dive knife is generally, again it's going to be high nickel just to keep the corrosion down. You don't see many folders in the diving world. Many dive knives you guys will double. If you look at what are called abalone knives or abalone bars, they're a knife and also a pry bar. It might come in handy one day. to look into a different field for a cutting tool that won't rust and you can pry with too. Mark it beats using the barrel of your M16 to pry with. Yes, exactly. As a matter of fact, that one tothrin-ness in a knife that I've got is a diving knife. I've had that for 35 years. It's built like a brick doghouse. It doesn't do anything but sit there and stare at you. It has about a 13 inch blade on it and cut back with a chisel front. It's the same edge. Like you said, it's tougher to do anything with it and keep it where it is. It's a utility blade. It has a hammer. not a spike pummel but a hammer pummel for the base so you can beat from the other end. So again the whole thing is a tool. It's built as a tool. And again typically Polymer scabbard, in this case it was kind of a new in vogue thing back in the day, and the grip itself made of the same basic material. And all again high chrome stainless. There are over 300 different stainless metal combinations out there, the alloys. It is one of the stainless range metals that just doesn't do anything but stare at you. It doesn't rust. You should take care of it. Let's assume the worst one won't be disappointed. But it was designed to be in a saltwater environment. Yes, that's the point. It will pretty well survive indefinitely in a freshwater environment. or Michigan Swamp Land. shop around. There's been a little bite in the AK market from the one end supply of course, but people are jumping at those right now and understanding the Russian. If they wanted the Russian they were maybe waiting saving up pennies. They've decided to go into debt a little bit to get what they want before they can't. So that has created a little bit of a flurry in the AK market in several categories. Not a surprise. Also, Don't be shocked and amazed to see the Sega prices shift. Hey, when I told you to buy that rifle for $175. You should have bought it. You did. What did it cost now? Now you're looking at just appreciation and capital gain. It's that simple. You've got resource in the bank. In fact, it's the point where if somebody really, really, really, like I've told you before about riding the wave, If you had one and maybe you had another gun that you've already decided to pick up or you're going to be using in place of that weapon and somebody really really has a toothache for that gun because they really really read a lot of good stuff about it now. Hey, maybe this is the time. It's up to you personally if you're already acquainted with the weapon I know how tough it is to walk away or step away from one. But if it's one of those situations where you have a big pile of goodies and this is just one of many many of them, hey you could come off a few of those wine bottles that are vintage and pay for all the rest of the wine bottles. Know what I mean? If you paid $175 to $220 for that shotgun or that rifle, you can get about $700 to $700 for it and it's of course a Sega Russian built. People are going to start talking about those like they are special vintages of wine. When they do, well, that's when you sell them the wine they want, but for the price you expect. See how that is? The price you set, let's put it that way. We are at the top. We should be hearing the music. Any moment now. And I know Ed's probably scrambling because we've had an interesting technology problems all over the country. It's not just us. talking to everyone that's been using telecommunications etc. Guys, there's bollocksing going up everywhere, just fumbling the technology. Whether it's intentional and some goof is just dialing the troublemaking or if it's just the idea that the infrastructure is tired and it's not being fixed. We're too busy having our country pillaged by the shicers. The landlines are operating at 99 and a percentage, 99 and a point. of carrying capacity. This is why when you dial and you get eight rings they come up and say your party is... they're trying to vacate the lines as fast as they can. Yep, because they've got to be able to get back into service. Exactly. Well Don, we are at the top. God bless the Republic. Yes, to the New World Order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Ooh-rah. Grab that bad-ass, fix it to the end of that weapon, make sure your magazine's topped off. Check the rest of your mags and your gear. Remember if you're going into battle in this twilight, you'll be fighting all night kids. That's going to happen. That's not going to work. 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