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But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children get people. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free home? Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm R. Kunky. one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on... Liberty Tree Radio.4MG.com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio.com. We are on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We are on the Hallmark network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. 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And I believe that the mid-Michigan groups are going to be sitting down and passing on all the connected information so everybody knows where to connect, where to look, who to talk to. How to inter-cooperate with other groups and units on the ground so they're not going to be by themselves. That's going to change very, very quickly. That's up there in Vassar, Michigan in the Vassar area. They'll be in the county, I believe they're already there this evening. They'll be a short meeting between several of the different critical components. Then we've got a meeting this weekend on Saturday nights. That will be, of course, a follow-up with a more extensive overview and brief of what's going on and how we can deal with this. You can donate specifically for that process. Dollar, $2, $12. Ideally, one of the things everybody could, just a dollar for every month of the year. If each person listening did that, we pretty well make the goal without any problem. The reason the price is as low as it is, considering how much is in the way of operating expenses, we have a monthly bill. We save about 50%. the full one year bill. Pay it done and on to other things. So it's the best way to do things in general. It makes our dollars go farther. Dates and correction monthly. This service is provided by preconferencing.com. Please enter your access code followed by the pound. This menu will repeat. Access code accepted. There are 10 participants in this conference. This conference is being recorded. Please announce yourself. www.honeyvillegrit.com Anyway, we're back. Now, there are a couple of specials going on. sale by two cans or cases, the second is half off. The second case will be 50% off, so 25% off two cases. If you buy two cans or two cases, the second can or the second case or number of cans, the equal number, if you got three, then obviously three will be at half price, whatever you do. And that 50% off on the second item you purchase, the second can or the second batch of items, however it works. Every other second one is half off. So if you got six, Three of them would be half off, that kind of thing. This is all the items that are on the page right now at www.honeyvillegrains.com. And then again, we're going to do it one more time, www.honeyvillegrains.com. And the sale works by two. cans or cases get 50% off the second can or the second case of whatever you purchase. That's going on from Monday through Friday so we're not going to catch up with it in time with the Quartermaster program on Friday night. BK called in last night and said, hey, give everybody a heads up on this. This is a very good deal. Remember CANS or cases. Take a look at what they have. Honeyvillegrains.com. Now, Electronic Gold Mine has got another item. In fact, I need some of these. In fact, that was one of the things I was going to try and get done today, but I've been doing yard and cat maintenance. So actually scrubbing kitty cats, little guys. The goldmineelect.com, I'm pretty sure, www.electronicgoldmine.com is what it is. Let's see, we get it right here. www.electronicgoldmine.com. gold, G-O-L-D, gold, mine, dash, I think there's a dash in the middle there, but we're gonna find out if I get it right, elect.com. If I don't get it right, we'll repost it again, and we'll get it right the second time. Now, the reason, they have a series of battery packs, oh, I got it the first time, very good, goldmine-elect-products.com, but goldmine-elect.com gets you there too, how do you like that? So the old post will work. Now they have a battery pack right now available. It is battery pack five AA cell batteries. These are of course the tab type, but still they can be easily adapted for any of your AAUs. They are nickel metal hydride and it's five batteries in a AA pack. They're AA's, five of them for 99 cents. It's right there on the front of the page. These are nickel metal hydride rechargeable 6 volt DC 2100 milliamp battery. In other words, it's a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 cell blister pack. Now the cool thing is for 99 cents for that battery, There are a lot of applications, if you think about putting these in proper series. 6 volts, double that. Oh wait a minute, yeah, I guess I could use that in a couple of different places, couldn't I? So again, this is right on the front page, www.goldmine-elec.com. or goldmine-elec.com. Both of them will get you to the same page. And there are a number of other items that are on sale. Merchant ice orders of $60 or more. You get $6 off on top of everything else. And 60 July 14 to your card. Simply add stock number 60 July gul14. Well, that's interesting. Anyway, follow the codes and information on the front page. Another cute one, free electronic candle, simply add stock number 20JUL14, merchandise orders of $20 or more. Get an electronic candle. Hey, grab them. Whatever it is, it's free. If you get it with the order, take it. Don't hesitate, don't wait. So scroll down through and look at everything that's available there. Ooh, one of them that really looks interesting, although no, it's not super cheap, cheap, cheap. It is really quite reasonably priced. box of 40 12 volt Apple blower fans. These are Sunan maglev blower fans made for the Apple iMac computers. 20 inch core, two DUO models. They are very powerful yet very quiet. Operates on 12 volts DC and rated at 3.8 watts. Size is about 4 3 quarter inches long, 4 3 16 inches wide, or actually I assume high, let's see, long, that would be high, well, long. Width and thickness is 1.730 seconds, 1 7 32nd inches. And has a four slot tiny connector, new box of 40 fans, please limit quantity 10 per order. In other words, they're 40 fans for a dollar. You really can't beat that. That's a 12-volter, by the way, so it's all set to go. And you could adapt this to so many different projects, especially if you're looking at situations where you might implement, oh, that's right, those cheapy 12-volt off-the-shelf, ready-to-use solar panels. You've got a power source, a small battery, a fan system. One of the places where this could work really well these would be in a greenhouse. Why do you need fans in a greenhouse? Well, actually, if you have a greenhouse, the upper air, the temperature builds up, obviously, in the crown of the greenhouse. And so typically you ventilate. Now, think about a solar panel inside the greenhouse so it doesn't break down in the weather. The fans ducted out to ventral and a thermostat hooked up with the fan the way it is so it only runs during the day. The thermostat of course shuts it down and off depending upon need as far as demand but the solar panel only runs during the day. During the night you don't really need to bleed off heat. See how that works? In fact, progressively the reason you built the greenhouse is to keep heat in. So one of the cool regulators in this situation is the fact that when the power goes, the sun, you no longer have to fear losing any more heat through the air pumping system. The neat thing is, these push a lot of volume. a push real hard but remember you want to circulate air and the neat thing about these is the way they're ducted. These are a ducted fan. These are really cool. So you have the advantage of being able to pull and you can push and pull the air. You could have one at one end pulling fresh air in, another couple pushing the air out. You could probably with the size of this fan and with the 3.8 watts pull, you could probably slave two of these fans at least, if not three, off of a standard $15 car mount type solar panel that they have at Harbor Freight. It's about $14.65 a panel. And one of those would easily run these fans which are very efficient. So there's a solution right there for you guys building greenhouses or wanting to move air around or just to create circulation. Here's another consideration. In these hot environments, number one, these fans take up very little space which is really cool. But if you have a radio trailer, And you want to make sure that you're not just chilling one area if you have air or a little limited AC or whatever, if you don't have AC and you're trying to acclimate your operators but also keep your heat buildup down inside that calorie cooker, remember radio equipment builds up heat. Well, these things could be mounted in random banks, I mean actually random stations in the perimeter around the trailer and could be run off the solar panels during the day. Again, direct drive during the day when it's needed. You can still have the option to run off a battery pack at night, but it's not as critical in the evening hours, so it would still be nice to circulate cool air and reduce the temperature so that you're preparatory for the next day. So there's a lot of cool solutions, and these are $1 apiece. They're 4 3 quarter inches long, 4 3 sixteenths wide, and 1 7 32nds inch thick. I'd say that's pretty efficient little space. And they are 12 volt. So they'll run off whatever 12 volt. Remember, they could run off your car system. You could in fact use plug adapters. There's any number of different ways. You want to do a cooling system for the car where you don't want to run the engine but you want some air circulating. There's a cheap air fan right there. Go ahead, call it a jump in there. What was the dimensions of the F-10 again? Four and three quarters by four and three sixteenths by one and seven thirty seconds. So it's a little under an inch and a half. about 4.5 inches by 4.0 inches. To make it even more efficient, if you had to be placed in a tube, and the tube is out on the outside, you'll get a lot more efficiency out of it that way. Well, the cool thing about this, this thing would be easily ducted. This is set up with a, it's got a snail drum type assembly that's ducted. I normally have the computer fans and they have the direct pull, direct drive push. This actually has a complete fixture and there's a picture on the site, going down front bay. But these are really cool. Even in trucks, I've always thought like when you're driving a truck, you've got all those little smaller vans, but these things are very quiet. This would be a great way to move a lot of different locations so you wouldn't just be counting on one or two units pushing everything. and they're 12-th, very inter-deficient. I mean, these aren't the old, I mean the older ones I grab all the time. If I find an old, old IBM that's built like a brick doghout, if it's been shot, in other words, it's been beat up and stripped, I just had a pile of wreckage I was looking at today. I got two 12-fold IBM fans that are built with metal blades. Give you an idea, they're the older, like from the 70s, late, you know, late 70s, early 80s. Metal blades, 12-bolt, built like a brick doghout. And those are going to be kept as little treasures off the side. Now I've got cases of the fans otherwise, but this one's cool. This one I can see a lot of other applications. I'm sure that one of the things, the docking is because you've got all these supercharged, these major calorie producer processors. And this is one of the processor fans. Pulling the heat off the unit with all the other radiators and everything else you've got. So it's a nice little unit and it could be applied to a lot of other jobs easily. The cool thing is this is both. A lot of times they actually are lower output or forgive me, lower consumption. But the problem is you have to again engineer your circuit board accordingly if you're going to manage the fans. This is very straightforward and user friendly here. So thanks for a big difference. A lot of 3.5 volt, a lot of 6 volt, which is not a problem. 6 is pretty easy to manage. But there's some odd ones that they just intentionally use because they're running off a motherboard, but they plug in the power into that. And then it goes to the power supply from there, depending on which band it is. Because there's three or four fans under the hood nowadays of most of these gaming computers, because they are running hot. They're toasters. If it weren't for those fans, your $700 investment would be trashing a few minutes. I don't think it's as warm as, if you've got a plastic cooler laying around and you want to make it even more efficient than that, you can put it in the side of it with the appropriate venting if you do it right. You can do that. Actually, the neat thing about this is this fixture would lend to that too. power supply. Ooh, they got a little power supply for $3 too. I'm looking right at this stuff. It's like $3 for a 3.3, see a 3.3 volt DC 9 amp power switching power supply. Gee, what a surprise. Remember what I just said, 3.5? Anyway, the fans are definitely cool. One of the other things, food dryers. You know what? These things would be perfect for a food dryer. This just convinced me I've got to talk to Nancy here when we get off the air and we're going to see about ordering a case of these today. Seriously. This is something that they don't really say here. Please limit quantity 10 per order. I guess 10 cases, no more than 10 cases per person. So 40 fans per case, you can get up to 10 cases. I hope they don't mean you can just order 10 fans because they just told you that there are 40 fans per box. So that would really be, oh there's 40, there's 40 fans per box but you can only buy 10. Well that's stupid, why did you tell me you have 40 to a box when you won't sell them to me? So anyway it's kind of cool, I want to say thanks Bcake, that just settled one of my other issues here I was looking at the other day and now I've got the insert right there. Also a lot of other components. So everybody that's out there, if you're looking for electrical goodies, computers, servos, speakers, LCD modules, anything and everything. This company has a lot of cool stuff. We've referred to them in the past. One of the other things, oh, they do have them again. Real of 200 bread, plant translucent, T1, 3 millimeter LEDs, $2,460. Now these are on the indexing feeder tape that's used by the industry when they're doing automated board construction. And it's just like a typewriter. It goes kaching, indexes it forward like a machine gun. It picks the unit, inserts the unit. It's auto-soldered, and then it snips the tabs automatically. It's really cool. But these are on the tape, so they're easy to manage. As far as finding them, you know, in other words, keeping track of them and using them when you want to. So that's pretty cool. Other than that, I haven't gone through the whole page, man. There are many, many, many times, many, many, many items on the sales sheet here, but also on the main page. And two numerous dimensions, so all I can say is go to www.goldmine-elec-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, that's www.goldmine-products.com. Again, elec-products.com. And make a point of getting there, guys, right on the front page. Those battery packs for $0.99, that's a steal. These are nickel metal hydride. OK, these aren't NiCad. What's really cool about this, you can take these apart. Or you may have something that actually needs those five batteries with that particular application. Some of your handhelds out there use a battery pack, depending on how old they are like this. They might use a five-cell AA. Also remember the freebies. Also if you're going to buy a bunch of this stuff, pay attention to the discounts. If you buy $60 or more, you get a $6 discount right off the bat. If you buy $20 or more, you get a little free LED candle thing. Hey, take it. It's free. It comes along with whatever else you're buying. They have them out there at the dollar store and stuff too, I know. They're not super fancy, but it's a neat little item. LED lighting like that is pretty handy for all kinds of projects. Not the least of which is, hey, you got a pumpkin? Save yourself some candles. Just put the little LED light in there. They even make something flicker, by the way. You can have flicker and fast flicker and low flicker. The other thing, booby traps. Mark, they got booby traps there? Well, yeah, they do as a matter of fact. Small electronic buzzer for multicomp, uh, multicomp produces a pleasant buzzing sound. Well, I don't want a pleasant... Wait a minute, wait, I didn't read this. I don't want a pleasant buzzing sound. I want an agitating obnoxious fire alarm buzzing sound. I don't... and so what is this? What's a pleasant buzzing sound? Beep beep. Over here, it should do something. Maybe you should pick up the phone. Is that a pleasant buzz? So... Any buzzes would do if you're going to an ain't talking drugs. Any buzz will do when it comes to making noise, though, with booby traps. And as a matter of fact, they've got 12, this is 12 volt DC electronic buzzer. And its mounting holes are on 1.25 inch centers. So it's about an inch and a quarter in width, because they're showing you a picture, and they're showing you the mounting points. $1.25 for those buzzers. They're brand new guys, by the way. So it's not like they're something used or anything, although I cannibalize used ones all the time. I pull them from all the fire alarms. And I also pull the radiological material, the element, out of the smoke alarm sensor. And we save those, and they go somewhere else. And eventually, if you have thousands of those little smoke alarm sensors, and you have that little sensor pad, if you have thousands of those, you could load ammunition with those. And they're very mean in the long run. You got him and even if you winged him people aren't probably looking for what you winged him with and you got him He won't really get away Now other cool stuff. Let's see super loud pulsating electronic Paizo horn. Wow. There we go. That's more in line with the smoke alarm right there 2 mode alarm, $1.75 for the standard and for the 2 mode alarm I guess, for $2, $1.99. They also have several other buzzers. They noticed that's why I brought this back up. They have several other buzzers. Oh, and they do have 80 millimeter 12 volt DC 2.5 watt fans if you're looking for a standard computer type fan to do research or work with. Yeah, they're not as cheap those other ones 40 for $40 guys you could do a lot of interesting work a bank of those could be used to run a food dryer Yeah, and a solar panel could run the food dryer. Yeah Hey, that'd be pretty cool. All right, here we go. This is more what I'm looking for the Mallory's own alert Mallory's SOTALERT Part Number PK-27N35PS operates on 3 volts DC or up to 28 volts DC. Wait a minute, that means it'll work at 12 volts VDC and the current is 8 milliamps. The output is 90 decibels. Hey, that's my kind of siren right there. The resonant frequency is 3,700 hertz and the size is 1.18 inches in diameter. and it's 0.64 inches high. It has two pins on the bottom for connection so it's pretty straightforward. Back-mounted connector completely self-contained, no driver needed. There you go. That's the one right there for $1.49. There's your Booby Trap sound maker. Use the same trip connector system with a safety pin, hook up your noise maker to that. That's all you need everybody will know where the person is or you can even just pull it yourself have them out so many yards hundreds of yards Pop settlement once man, that's kind of obnoxious amongst somebody who thinks that they're walking safely and securely and you know secret squirrely through the woods Yeah, I like that Anyway, there are trinkets galore and more to buy. Go ahead, who do we have, caller? This is BK. Go ahead, BK, jump in there. Yeah, I happen to actually be listening a lot for a change. I wanted to mention to everybody to be careful with gold mine as a vendor. I think these guys are probably, Cazar's certainly, they behave like it. I buy from them and I recommend things. You mentioned that I gave you a heads up on a couple of these items, but always be very careful with these guys. What they do is they get some very interesting stuff from time to time. If you look through their closeouts, you'll see that they've had some stuff that's been gathering dust for a long time too that may be of interest. But what they'll do is when they get something, they'll put it out there at insanely high prices. So you almost never are interested in the stuff that's new this month. Because the first price they throw out there is they're fishing. They're trying to see if they can reel somebody in and get them to pay absolute insane top dollar for things. If they don't move, then they'll drop the prices a little bit. But they don't do it in a smooth, gradual fashion. They jink it around like they're dangling the worm in front of the fish and seeing if they can get you to bite. So, they bounce the prices up and down and up and down and offer these little specials and say, and then all of this kind of good stuff. Those fans, for instance, I have an order waiting for them to do this. They have offered them at a dollar a piece or two dollars a piece, but they all try to get eight dollars a piece. So, four days from now, they're going to be trying to get eight dollars a piece for those guys. So, be very, very careful about this outfit. The other thing is that in my experience, now this may just be a glitch, but in my experience, the coupon codes may not work. have to be a little bit cautious using the F word. That might be an electronic glitch, it might not be a willful fraud. I don't think I've ever managed to get any of the coupon codes to work. They foster those coupon codes out there to get you to push your order up to 50 or 60 or 80 or 100 or whatever the case is, but I've never gotten those to actually work for me. So, that may or may not be deliberate. The final thing is that, just like BG Micro is very, very good about shipping and they'll even sometimes send you a refund if they get things into a smaller package, these guys are going to hammer you on the shipping. They always do that. Goldmine will charge you something on the order of 30 or 40% for shipping. So, make them So you're saying it's not just the shipping, it's also the very point. The default shipping will be different. You have to watch them closely. If you just click through, they'll set it up as postal service shipping, which they claim is vastly more expensive than UPS. I've not found that to be the case in the real world, but it is the case in the goldmine world. You'll have to go in there and Select alternate shipping and you will find that the UPS price is somewhat lower than the postal service price. You can select that one. By default, they are going to go with a higher price shipping option. All of their shipping options, in my opinion, are wildly overpriced. They are offering you these deals and then they are sticking it to you on the backside after you have already filled the shopping cart and decided to move forward. I do do business with these guys. I have called out these items. I recommend their stuff from time to time. But just be very, very careful. These are not my idea of upright, honest, straightforward businessmen. These guys act like cazars. Yeah, Bless & Scene, Bless & Scene in Chang. Yes. By the way, Chang is kosher too. You just didn't realize it because most people don't realize how many kosher characters there are in China. These guys wonder why they become unwelcome. Well, the interesting thing is that you said the fans are a neat little idea. I hadn't seen this because I had only scrolled down so far. I was looking at the batteries right away. I got a chance to glimpse where you said to go and I didn't go down through. If they have them, this week's super deal is what they're listed as. It's a box of 40, 12 volt, DDC, Apple blower fans. Right. The fixture is really cool the way they're set up. Yeah, I have a box of those in my order. I was waiting for them to jink them down again because I may pay $8 apiece for those things, but I'm happy to pay $1 apiece. I wouldn't have bought 40. I don't need 40, but at $1 apiece, I'll buy them and I'll find uses. The general rule of thumb on fans is that there are the two styles. The axial kinds are the ones that we're used to seeing most commonly. Those are the little flat disk style. And there's the radial kind, which are also called squirrel cage. And that's what we're looking at this time is a radial or a squirrel cage style. The generalities is the axial fans will move more air, but against a small back pressure. and the radial ones will move less air but they're better at forcing it through against resistance. So that's why you will see a radial fan in your automobile heater that has to blow the air through the heat exchange unit. It has to force it through some resistance. You'll see a radial used there. And in your computer case where there's not very much resistance, you'll generally see the axials because they're cheaper and they're good enough. Choose which one you want. A radial would be really great for running a charcoal forge because there you're forcing air into something. It's good to run air against a wood burner, for instance, if you're trying to transfer heat from the wood burner. Any time you're forcing air against resistance, a radial is the way to go. Any time you just want to move volumes of air and it doesn't have to very hard to move it an actual is usually the way to go see it is which one you want based on circumstance i got a lot of ideas with apple fans and one more thing about apple fans are noisy Yeah, they can be. They're all made in China to spec, of course. And you can be sure that if you had an Apple PC and you needed a fan, they'd charge you 50 bucks or something for the fan. But obviously, these overran the requirements that the machines they're designed for are no longer consuming very many spare part fans. So they start to bust a pile of them. Goldmine has had these for a while now. These are the actuals of the ones they use in the G5s. Those were noisier in hell. If you don't care about noise, it doesn't matter. It's funny you're talking about this because today was an Apple Day for me. I just got a whole pile of Apple equipment for free almost. It's all newer stuff, 2011. These are the fans they use inside those Apples. I'm thinking about this. I've got four units. In fact, one of our other listeners are going to him because he runs nothing but Apple. I've got switchers and a whole pile of Apple gear. This is probably the fan that I was looking at in the wreck. Now that I think about it, I'm going to have to go back outside. I've got them laying on a bench right now and I'm going to take a look. It's like, yeah, it probably is the best. It's entirely possible. There's a good chance of that. Which is cool because again, one of the things I'm going to point out, I talked about this last winter, and I've got all the wood laid out right now, guys, and I've got a pile of 1x4. Now remember we talked about solar heating using just simply the solar wall bank system? One of the things I want to do is run the pushers, the fans, using direct solar panels. It's not going to run at night. In the past we've always used or they were using a thermal control to regulate the power to the fans and they were plugging them into the wall. But my idea is completely self-contained. Just use the off-the-shelf, simplest solar panels, run the fans, push the air through the box. All it is is a 4x8 sheet of plywood using 4-inch boards to make what is a simple S-type rat maze. You just go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Once you screw those into place and create your rat maze with about a 4-inch or 5-inch space to make your duct, which is going to go from the top of the piece of plywood on the left side to either the bottom left or bottom right. Now traditionally they've always just dumped them out the same, you know, that they've gone in, which is cool. However, now remember you're going to get a four-baked sheet of simple plexiglass to do this, or if you've got a window company and they're getting rid of sliding doors. I have a bunch of members I've got to build a greenhouse with sliding door, you know, sets of sliding doors for, you know, patio doors. Now, that's your glass to cover the one side, but what you do is we station fans to push the heated air. After we've assembled everything, we paint everything black. Flat black. Everything. All the boards. Everything. Flat black. Flat black. Inside, outside. Flat black. Back of it. Flat black. Give it a couple of good coats while you've got it there because you're not going to open this thing up once you're done. Then take the fans that we've got I've got two cases of them right here actually like little computer fans brand new I just dug them out and what I'm going to do is place those at so many stations wire them up so they're they're slaved off of the the $15 solar solar panel from Harbor Freight They will pull from the house from one direction and push hot air out of the box into the house again. Up here in Michigan, we used to have this whole area, we used to have hundreds of houses that were heated this way. For whatever reason, people just didn't want to maintain the blower fans or didn't want to maintain the integrity of the boxes because the traditional design covers the whole south face of a house. And for whatever reason, don't ask me, these work phenomenally well. One of our people, six houses, seven houses down, heated their house through the whole winter with these. And it's a simple process. Now even if it doesn't heat the house for the whole winter or all the time, guys, once it's built, especially if you're using dollar an item material and bargain basement technology for the power source, what are you out? Any calories that throws into the house, are positive. The box can be made out of anything. I'm just going to use a piece of plywood. If I get the glass window, it's a triple pane window. That's typically what they are now that are sliding glass doors. So the whole dimension for everything, for the back wall and for the rat maze, will be based on the size of the glass or the plexiglass I can get for free, preferably. If not, I'm going to buy a 4x8 sheet of the standard clear plastic from one of the hardware stores, one of the big box stores, and that is going to be sealed and screwed into place. So it will be a sealed system, it will be a 4x8 sheet, and it will be facing, it will be on the south face. I've got whole areas I could do this, but I'm just going to do one as a project to demonstrate How it could be a mobile heater this thing can be put anywhere the ducting the plastic ducting I get for free That's actually what they're using for a lot of houses, which I really would never do myself But I also have sheet steel I could run it in sheet steel galvanized heat ducts Whatever you want to use or whatever have handy to get the the charged air out of the box and into the house is what you're concerned with. You always want to insulate those also. Exactly. Oh yeah, and again it's all freebie stuff. The duct work, the duct hosing is actually insulated and it's mylar wrapped. So it's already set to go. In fact, these people are so sloppy down the road to these construction sites that they'll leave 20, 30 feet left in a box because it's all squeezed into a box and you just pull it out of an ore tube and it's ready to roll. So, there are a number of different ways you can do it, purely creative on your part. And again, the idea is what can you do with junk you can find laying around? Now, these fans are not junk. I mean, think about BK, what were they just charging? When these were in Vogue, we know this works with technology. When these were in Vogue, how much were they charging per fan? Well, once you've bought an Apple, you're kind of their victim for sure. So, they'll stick you for easily 50 bucks for a fan. Goldmine keeps trying to get 8 and 9 dollars for those fans. But you can see that they're willing to take a dollar apiece in a long time. Any time they say limit 10, that means they have more than they know what to do with something. This is one of those sales tactics. In other words, is marketing... They translate it depending upon value and storage space in the warehouse is what it comes down to. Sorry, BCO is trying to get it to you. I can't tell you make it go three times or make it go five times or what have you. There's no way of just sitting here and saying that. But there is a way that you can figure it out. DMM's digital multimeters nowadays are not hard to get with temperature probes. You can get those from BG Micro, that's Bravo Golf Micro for instance, has one of these meat heaters with a temperature probe. So, and these are cylindrical probes. So if you build one of these serpentine guides and you want to experiment, you can drill small holes in the back like an 1 8-inch hole or something and poke the probe through and see what the temperature is stabilizing at at all these different points. And if you find out that halfway through the temperature has reached maximum and the other half of the heater box is not doing anything, then that will tell you, oh, okay, I have more serpentine path than I need to. I need to remove some of these partitions and have a fatter, wider path with less length. If you find that the temperature is increasing continuously through the whole thing, then you'll find that, oh, maybe I want to make it a longer, more serpentine path. So those meters are not very expensive. You can get them at BG Micro, and they have a temperature probe. And if you poke that temperature probe around at different places and write down the temperature and see that it's rising rapidly during the first half, and then it kind of stabilizes out. you will learn that you have accomplished everything you need to in the first half and you want fewer partitions. And if you don't see that sort of elbow near the end of the curve, then you may decide that you want more partitions. And in that fashion, you can optimize your system without a whole lot of instrumentation. And one of the things here too, as far as the sensors go, it actually, one of the techniques that was used with these wall-type systems were virtually the The entire side of the southern face, we have a matte-tipped southern face with only two windows for the half the length of the house. Both of those are on the lower floor. The upper floor is completely solid. Structures like this, they actually did diverters so that when they used a sensor system, that was one of the things that became a cost because people didn't want to face these things. Their system to ID, temperature, again, available calories. What's available in a way of heat? They would actually reduct or they could reroute. There were actually routing systems that were nothing more than louvers. Right, you could build a one-way flap valve with nothing more than a sheet of plastic that just hangs on its own weight so that it blows when the fan is blowing and it doesn't allow air to back up through the system when it's cold. You could do some things with thermostats and say, only when the house is cold and the box is warmer than the house do you run the fan. You're getting into a little bit of wiring there. It's not terribly complicated. It's more than some people want to handle and other people are comfortable doing it. But you can make it as elaborate as you want or you can just have a switch there and say, Grandpa, throw the switch when you're cold. Those fans that Mark has, they're I had a cheap Apple G5 when they first came out. On that computer, there was a little packet saw that would give you the temperature or the inside of the box at all times. Those fans, they had two per box, two of those fans marked in a little app hole and it stand up cashing the Apple G5. When it got to 129, those fans would kick on. It's 90 degrees for those fans. of temperature sensors at this point. So at this point most of the fans are thermostatic. You can do the same thing with a heat box if you want or you can just say, okay, it's grandpa's job to throw the switch when he's cold. Those particular fans are barked and so were designed to come out at 129 degrees. Fans themselves don't. That was a different circuit inside the machine. We don't want to burn our little beast up, so here we better switch on or we're going to die. Yeah, right. That's when they came on on my computer. I wasn't trying to die, that's when they came on. One of the things that I'm going to do with this unit is I'm going to pump it straight into the basement. Heat rises to begin with, but if the basement is kept at a particular temperature, floor first floor temperatures will be obviously improved. and the idea is to build as many as I want or to build or do a whole wall. I've got enough material for free, I've got to use it up. I'm down to the point where there's a bunch of projects I'm finishing or I've just like been on the edge of it, I've been tied up with so many other things and the other stuff going out of state. But these little projects need to be done during the summer ready for the winter. If you look at the wall of floor marks on those fans, you'll have a great little system there. The other thing is on the south side, we actually are very clear. We've got a really great sun. The building is perfectly oriented. It's ancient, but it's perfectly oriented. The other thing I was thinking about, and I would point out for everybody, if they're at 8.5 by 11, you can take a look at take uh... either like a more large oversized piano hinge big you know heavy front door once while old aluminum doors I just ran to a bunch of them the other day. I don't know who pulled them off or what doors I saw the wreckage. I don't know where the doors were replied. Either a piano hinge or a couple of barn door hinges, three of them. You could literally hook this up so you could swing it out during the winter. Let's say during the summer months, if you wanted to, you could actually have it so it faces in. and disappears, literally like often oblique, so you don't really see it. It also covers it up so it's not really pushing anything. It's going to get warm, but it's not going to be direct application. I'm not worried about it pumping anything. It's just the idea there are ways you can either create covers or you can make it so that literally just flip it around so that it's facing with the glass inward. It protects the glass, prevents any injury. By the way, since the back surface is out like BK was saying, why don't you paint it again? In other words, oh, I can get to that. Now I can paint it during the summer. That's really the biggest issue is containment is keeping the containment vessel dry so things don't break down. Things don't chip. They don't rot. They don't flake. If you're using lesser materials, paint like we are here. Guys, I'm getting gallons of paint for free from the restore and from other places, even down the recycled bins. People drop off. 20, 30, 40 gallons of different types of house paint and most of them are all in these field colors. Now there's two things I'm doing with them. Number one, I'm camouflaging everything. I was just experimenting with five or six different flat matte colors and just put it on a table surface for the fun of it. I had a couple of legs and the idea is it's a field table for, you know, you're going to see one of the videos here coming up. Anything and everything is going to have a camo pattern or can have a color or a flat matte color on it and I'm not out anything. The big thing is just keep painting stuff. Watch for the paint and especially since grays, field greens, coyote brown is really big because all this leftover junk from desert dust. There are tons of that, Coyote Brown. They are showing up even in the sheet metal industry for trimming your house, for all of your roof appliances and all your roofs and gutters. Whatever they came up with some off the wall new name for it, it's Coyote Brown. And why is it so cheap? Because they've got buckets and buckets and buckets of it that they've made for overseas. Well, for your outside finish for like one of these projects, grab the old house paint, seal the thing up really good, watch for the sale on either bathtub, caulk, or acrylic caulk or whatever color you want, and caulk everything. I mean, at least caulk it in key component areas where it's going to be put together and facing outside are going to be exposed. And you're done. However long it lasts, the most expensive thing we're buying is the fans. If I can find the sliding glass doors, usually I get those for free. So again, like I said, it may not be an 8.5x11. It may be smaller than an 8.5x11 based upon the size of the window that I could find. You could even use these big single, non-sliding windows. A lot of these are coming out of houses because they want windows that open again. And that's a perfect size for one of these projects. In many cases, they actually already have a wood frame that's fairly deep. It's usually four inches in one direction, four in the other. So, you can live with whatever depth the frame is and this becomes your research project to see if you want to do more. You're not out anything and the windows, usually when you go to the window companies when they're pulling this stuff, they want to get rid of it because they don't want to put it in their dumpster. If you take it away from them, they don't have to handle it. So you can get free windows all day. I do little greenhouses. I've done little cat houses, my little cat skyscrapers here. They're from windows that were being tossed out. Oak frames! Beautiful windows. Got little cat skyscrapers, got a couple of little yard lights that cost a dollar apiece. Made a little jungle gym in the middle that's carpeted. It's got little seating areas on the side so they can lay down. Cost me nothing other than the time it took to take some screws and go meep, meep, meep, meep, and meep. And my rule is if I can find something that's cut, that somebody already cut and it looks like it's kind of the right size, usually there's a whole bunch of cut-offs that are done at the same time. Well, that's my cut. That's code shaped so when the air goes through it, it's a bit cheery. So when the air goes through it, you could get more intricate with these. Yes, that's purely a matter of personal choice. In fact, there are even some of the other surplus companies that do industrial surplus. I'll buy where BK is. I'll go over towards the middle of the country that have some phenomenal cut pieces of metal, sheet metal, overrun products, ducts. What I was saying was to put the solar on the roof and just put a bank of four of those fans incorporated into one of those Ben Cherry things, you could move some serious air through your house. That has to be running all the time because of solar. One of the tricks, guys, I don't know if you all remember this, but back in the 70s, does anybody remember they used to do these and the guys, what they would do is they would take fluorescent tubes. and they made the entire fixture 4 foot, well you have the 4 foot fluorescent tubes. So they went with the 4 foot plywood sheets. They use the tubes to become activators, to become active thermal chambers by painting them all black. It works reasonably well. It's incredibly labor intensive, cutting the tubes open and washing them out. People have also done that with stacked soda cans. The other one I was thinking of was also with all the new plastics. Right now, like I said, remember guys, it's like the glass. The blue glass, I kicked myself from the hind end, I should have grabbed more as it is around the tail end of the blue, but the red is starting to show up like I said it would. They're starting to see that blood red. Now it's not black, but it's a darker color. They're consistent containers and there's all kinds of neat things that can be done, projects both for airport lighting. By the way, we do have some airports and one of the things I'm going to be doing in the LEDs, the wine bottles are going to be the glass fixtures that are going to be around weatherized and I think we can do it off solar for like free. The solar panels are going to be the biggest cost and by the time we're done, that won't even be hooked up to the regular power grid. But the cool thing is it will really be party glass. I'm telling you, it will be as party