July 3, 2014
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1h 1m
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Mark Koernke discussed cell phone tracking technology used in criminal investigations, vehicle safety features and emergency escape techniques, and extensively covered night vision equipment for border deployment and field operations. He and co-host Don reviewed first-generation night vision gun sights, their specifications and advantages over older models, and detailed tactical applications including illumination strategies, laser targeting, and improvised light-based signaling systems for area control and defense.
- night vision technology
- first generation gun sights
- border deployment
- cell phone tracking
- vehicle safety
- tactical equipment
- infrared illuminators
- picatinny rails
- thermal imaging
- laser targeting
- michigan
- preparedness
- field operations
- area control
- ammunition sales
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Live 365 You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch entremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free one two three one two three There we go. Well, that's weird. Oh, I was off I'm sorry guys. I was hung up Isn't that amazing? And it just connected right away. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Perky. They might be Don right there with us. Let's double check before we go any farther. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west Central, Southeast, and East. Well, it is a f***ing to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com Indiana Freedom Talk. 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Well, it is a beautiful afternoon. We went from drizzly, rainily gray to blue skies, horizon to horizon. Cool air all through the day. And if we didn't get snow up in the Upper Peninsula, well, I'd be surprised. We should have gotten our 4th of July snow, and if not, we're going to have it tomorrow. We've got the air for it. The lakes are primed. It's been cool in general, and that bubble came off of Hudson Bay, went south, went over the Lake Superior, and is over it right now, by the way. And when that air mixes on the Peninsula and UP, we're going to get snow. So you might even get it more than one day. It's middle of the day, always about one o'clock. It will be in the center of the state, the center of the Upper Peninsula, between Superior and where the Straits of Mackinac are. Just a little to the left of it there, a little to the west. Anyway, let's see, do we have Don with us? It is the third day of July. You're of our Lord 2014. As you describe Mark, a beautiful, breezy, cool day. The third day of July, it's It's almost summertime, well you know how that goes. One of them days in the middle of summertime in Michigan. But it's a beautiful day. Just sunshine, bit of a breeze. I think we got to about 74 and falling in an hour or two. What a beautiful day. Great day to get stuff done. Let's do this Mark. Do we have any callers? I heard a number of dings. We had five or seven people right at the front waiting. Do we have any callers? Six will unmute you. Okay. They're covering a shooting in Detroit. They're making a whole big thing out of Michigan because this goes across the state mark. The guy down in Warren, a suburb of Detroit, north of Detroit, basically been charged a number of times with beating up his wife. Then his wife goes missing and he tells everybody while she left and they found her about 50 or 60 miles north of me in the national forest here and they're charging. But that's news across the state. Boy oh boy, it's amazing to me how some people can stay in some places. It's kind of like if your government sends troops to beat the snot out of you, your government really doesn't appreciate you, does it? I know that's an inch to a mile, but that's an individual action to a mass action. But boy, oh boy, how can you stay in one place for years and get a broken nose, an arm, and a leg? It makes me think, Mark, of the woman in Florida. Been beat for years by her husband. She had a concealed carry and one day she put one into the air over his head. Man, oh man, we talked about that a couple weeks ago. The judicial system there in Florida. Rita, I decided to give her 20 years for discharging a gun into the air. You know, there's a bit of skew across the board, you know, it's like this notch doesn't go in that tab and you can't put the ship together without it. Just a thought, you know, you guys, it's been said and this goes way back. This goes to that fat guy that, you know, they built a whole bunch of temples and statues of there in Asia, you know, that Buddha guy. It runs up something like The man takes care of himself. He can take care of a home. If he can take care of a home, he can take care of a village. If he can take care of a village, he can take care of the town. If he can take care of the town, Confucius called it the province. Buddha called it the province, but we can take care of the state. If he can take care of the state, he can take care of the nation. Oh hey, it's kind of like the... How does that go? That Leroy fellow, that, oh you don't know. state we're in and I changed one word but it's true isn't it? Oh you don't know state we're in. Mark I yield to you sir. Well again let's see north of you I would say the porcupines had already been eating along with other things. Mike the big thing to ask is this how did they figure out that she was up there in that forest in the middle of nowhere? I'm not certain Mark. Did they say? Let me give you a hint here people for everybody who hasn't used their brain power yet. Let's see. I have a cell phone. The cell phone works like a transponder. And out of the blue, the guy from down here in our end of the state, there's this bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, b Oh, oh, oh, that's that sonar detector. Oh, I mean that, uh, that paceometer. I mean that... That tracking device. That tracking device. Oh, your cell phone. Uh, gee, do you think, guys? Because let me ask you, well, now let's think about this, too. Did he have a brand new car? Does he have a really expensive car? Does it have any special paid-for technology to make sure that your car, no matter where it is in the country, they can open the doors for you or they can lock the doors for you or they can just look to see where your car is because it's for your own safety that the government needs to know. Hey, you know, just as the interject, Mark, there's a tool that you can use to cut seat belts and also break the window from the inside. Just a thought line. I thought I'd interject that. Yes, as a matter of fact, you know what right now, in fact, Bud K. Thank you for bringing it up. BudK.com. www.budk.com. Don, they've got some really good sales on several of the models of what you're talking about. The safety slash, you know, oh no, I don't need you up there. Now, you're gonna get, I've got a cat going way up somewhere she can't get down from. Ha, ha. Oh. Now, she's trying to figure out how to get down and she's stuck. Of course you are, Dingleberry. Anyway... Now, you guys have seen the films of they catch the car thief in the neighborhood, cars are disappearing in the neighborhood, and they park a car in the neighborhood, and they might even leave the keys in it. In fact, a lot of times they do. And when the perpetrator jumps in the car, the officer says, An OnStar, or whatever it is that the Japanese offer now a parallel of OnStar, locks the car. No matter the guy turns the key, it won't start. No matter the guy pushes the buttons, it will not unlock. Until the police arrive. Now, there was something the other day on the air, you guys, it was broadcast nationally. It was a fire on the road in California, I think. Mark, this guy could not get out. It was a fire under the hood and we thought we addressed fires just a few weeks ago. There was a fire under the hood and it caused an electrical failure in his car. The electrical failure, guess what? It seems to me there are those mechanical switches there by the door too. Not the electrical switches. I don't know why, but he couldn't roll down the windows. He couldn't unlock the doors. Remember this problem exists for years. We've had automotive engineers warn us about this. Along comes this guy, what one might call a good Samaritan, and bends and tears and poles. It was what you call a Hardtop, rather a coop. It had a frame around the window. Mark, he bent that frame back until the glass burst and then the guy climbed out. Wow. That's the hairs bragging rights right there got it probably actually hoping you just turn He's probably just hoping to turn the door, but you know ended up busting the window for him anyway Yeah, personally rock hard spot hard object anything and break window and be done with it But you know that is that safety glass don't hesitate to crawl across that it's not gonna slash at you It might give you little little dinky surface cuts, but it won't cut deep I mean, unless you're, you know, smack to the wall and going through the windshield at 70 miles an hour. And that's kind of rude just to picture that, to bring that up. But the shattered glass on the side to push your child through it, to crawl through it yourself, don't hesitate. Don't hesitate there. It will give you little surface scratches. It won't cut anything deep at zero speed for the vehicle. Okay, don't hesitate there. And we've talked about fires as of late, and I don't know exactly how we got onto this, but man, oh man, you guys. It's like the woman sees her child in the car and this is like urban legend, you know like alligators in the in the sewers in New York But she runs out into the street and picks up the car someone drags her child out from underneath Actually, well we don't we had a woman who did that right here on Main Street years ago when I was in high school Only it was her older teenage son and he had you know did the old safety chalks without anything to support the vehicle otherwise The car fell on her, he screamed from the front porch, ran over, lifted the car up, grabbed him by the other arm. With the other arm went before the thing could come back down and had him thrown away from the vehicle. Wow. Now then she spent the next three days in the hospital. Oh yeah, no doubt. That was the next thought. People don't generally describe the crushed discs or the dislocated shoulders of the huff and rotor cuffs that happen from this. Oh yeah, she was not a big woman either. She was about 120 pounds soaking wet and it was her like, you know, he was a little younger, well actually, a little younger than I was at the time. And the car collapsed on his chest and his head and chest under the front of the car. Car collapsed forward. You know how it slides forward on those chalky on the stands. and dropped her down. She was right there on the porch, I mean, on the porch. She literally leaped from the porch, pulled the car up. She stood right to the side over him, and then grabbed him and threw him back. Not very far, because he was my size, but threw him back, pulled him back away, and was still resisting the car with the other arm while she was doing it. Then of course she collapsed, and Mel the ambulance carried two people to the hospital. But she saved him that car wouldn't he wouldn't that car wouldn't have moved up and down you know how it is right down the car you can tell when somebody's dead because the car stops lifting about an inch and a half every so many breaths right yeah, it's like one and two tons in the wind with two and two tons of the car turns into a bower constrictor yeah Finishes you right squishes is what it does squishes pushes all the air and circulation right out of you That's a classic example right there. Again, the mind will do whatever the body tells you. The mind will tell the body to do whatever is necessary. Whether or not the body is going to progressively survive it without shutting down is another issue. But in this case, as we've seen time and again, the interesting thing is that back in the day when we had real steel cars, guys, She wasn't lifting a mini car. Or grabbing a plastic bumper. She was grabbing a Chevy. In fact it was a 67 Chevy that she pulled up. On top of everything else. Keep that in mind. I think it was a Biscayne. That's what it was. So you tell me. We had a Biscayne. I wish I still did. You could stand on the body of that car guys. And not worry about it. Am I going to hurt it? No. No, you're not going to hurt it. Don't worry. Just step on it and go. So, a couple of things here real quick. Going back to that incident with the character that killed his wife, or at least he's charged with killing his wife. Number one, whenever you hear stories like that, the question has to be, how did they know? Because if she is up in the middle of whatever, I mean, granted, he might have rolled her body out of the office to the side of the road, which doesn't seem to be very smart, really. Not that we're planning anything like this, but when you think about it, what is going through people's minds? Well, I'm just going to roll it out here. Nobody will ever find it along the side of the road. People being curious, especially the more remote you are, wonder what that big bag of something is there. What are those buzzards doing? Some people do that to go and find deer skulls, or even bear skulls. Yeah, what are the vultures circling for they're busy trying to find a meal. Yep. That's the one thing to remember So, you know, that's just you know, one of the many issues here, but the most probable This is a demonstration of what we've been talking about it may come out eventually in the storyline But then again, it may not because they don't want you to think about it How did they know up there in the middle of BFE where to go almost to the square foot of where she was laying? You know Now, that doesn't mean that the other part of what you just said isn't true, Donnie. The vultures do kind of signal if it's just laying out in the field. But there are a lot of other creatures that are looking for calcium in the great north. So people don't lay around nor do bones for very long. It's why you don't find piles and piles and piles of bones if you were to walk through the backwoods. I mean, haven't there been virtually generations of small and big animals alike that have died there? And the bones... You think it could be piled up like elephants' graveyards. Yeah, somewhere. I mean, eventually there should be... But that's not what you find up there, guys, and there's a reason that... In fact, porcupines... Oh, porcupines love bones. That's why they disappear and so and it's one of those many creatures you don't think about either but the porcupine population the upper peninsula and the lower part of or the forgive me the upper part of the lower peninsula too has Quadrupled if not sick-tuple they have come out over and over in force so very impressive anyway Another thing here real quick before getting farther down night vision technology. Let's do this more than once in the hour because I want to make sure it's in the archive We've sold out the one model. We do have another model available, of course, the next up and a little more money to spend. But, guys, about what I'm being told with feedback I just got from letters today and from a bunch of these spikes on the alternate here, everybody that's using the equipment they picked up, Don, they are... It's it. It's what they needed. They're not having any problem at night. Of course, now remember these guys are deploying on the border, which you don't need to have the most expensive piece of night vision technology, guys. Your area of control is fixed. Once you know what you want to control and observe, then you, again, regulate your position based upon the capability. So this first gen night vision technology is more than sufficient for the kind of work we're doing down there. and everybody is basically repeating that over and over again. So if you're looking for and you're trying to figure, you know, I'm going to deploy, man, I need at least some kind of night vision technology. Don, what do we have that we can fill in that block with now if we're going to be taken off and headed towards the border, please? Well, if you've done it like this before, but if you just come across a great big amount of money and you always wanted a Ferrari and you run down to the Ferrari dealer and you run in there and say, I want the cheapest Ferrari you got. The guy will take you off to the side real quick and tell you, sir, there's no such thing as a cheap Ferrari. What you're looking for is an entry-level Ferrari. We basically moved all of the entry-level first-generation gun sight through the door. The two powers gone. We have the four and the six power left. The last numbers I got on that were all a week ago today. There were just over 700 and just over 300 of those numbers respectively. Those are green screens in the first generation left. After that we'll be looking at black and white. And might I reiterate on that thought line because black and white light on your face is going to be a night vision magnet. The guy out there with the night vision that's going to draw attention to you like you just lit a little fire like you're walking around with your hair on fire. The green light that is emitted from a green screen piece of night vision is almost invisible to a piece of night vision. If you're close and you're looking at it, you might wonder, what is that little green, eerie light over there? And then the guy takes care of his problem when he squeezes the trigger. The guy with the night vision takes care of the guy that's wondering what that little piece of green light is over and never gets to finish his sentence. But with the white light coming out of the device, you guys, your light discipline will have to multiply three, four, tenfold, whatever it takes to keep that white light off of your face. We have again a four power and a six power narrows up the field of view a little bit over the two power. That was one of the advantages for gaining a target quicker or tracking a running target or a moving target. You'll have more lead with a wider field of view. If you move them a little farther away, you gain a bigger field of view and you can gain again that running gear, that moving target with a 4 power. Now of the 2, the 6 power is going to be kind of the placement shooter because its field is going to be even narrower, but you'll have that 6 power in a bigger lens and we've addressed that before. This company used to offer a 2 and a 4 and a 6 power in a second and third generation device and they did not change the front size of the lens and the more elements they put in front, the less... excuse me, the less light got to the night vision tube, the less light got to your eye. Eventually they fixed that problem so we had a 2 power which was basically the size of the diameter of the body and a 4 power got bigger and a 6 power got even bigger. We still have the 4 power and the 6 power. The 4 power will go right in your mailbox. They call it the 390 paladin. They want $479 for it. They'll settle for $449 if you wangle them for a while. call them up and say, how much for it today and call them up tomorrow and how much for it today and eventually you might sell it to you for $449. Call me up and ask me once and now we only have to ask, call me up and I'll put that piece of night vision in your mailbox for $390. You know that $449 minimum price, they're going to get delivery beyond that. $490 will put this right in your mailbox. the 390 Paladin. You can see it at atan.com. You can see it. I don't know if we have an example of it on the Liberty Tree radio site, but that's okay you guys. It's a fine piece. When you take it out of the box, it appears as if they're second and third generation pieces used to. So its finish is proper. One of the things about it that moves it up this whole series of first generation gun sites, it has a front lens that you can focus rather than a fixed. Now a lot of times in order to gain that .308 capability, the manufacturer will freeze that front lens at an infinity and mold it, ring it, screw it down right into the device so it doesn't move and it's set at infinity. Now there's some good things about that. You know, you can bring the device up, you don't have to adjust it. You're depending on depth of field of the lens, but when things get closer, they kind of get out of It's kind of general, but when you can focus on a lens, you can be more specific in exactly what you're looking at. And this device is beyond a basic in that regard. It has... You'll focus the back, the ocular lens, the side you look into in the daylight with your front cap on, because the device is set up so that if you wear glasses, unless they're like coke bottle thick, you can generally bring this device to... your eye, it will be tuned to your eye with the front cap on. And then at night, you've got the back, don't touch the back when you get out at night, and then get into the dark and turn it on and take the front cover off and then focus the front to the object that you're looking at and you're doing great. Again, it's an upscale device. Look around and ask how many other people will tell you they've got a a number of people I'm told now will, but then ask them if they warranty it for two years. Most everybody, this is one of the reasons why I've been dealing with this company for a long time. They warranty their first and second generation devices two years instead of one. So that's a good thing right there. If you want to talk more, I'm not going to take up the whole hour talking about night vision. I heard a couple more dings. But if you want to talk about night vision, you can reach me at 231-796-84. 58 again, two three one seven nine six eight four five eight goggles or gun sights green screens are thermal Thank You mark and I'm not certain but let's just you know check the deck there Do we have a caller waiting or six will unmute you as we move into the next half of the first stop Hey 888-7468 888 no no no that's the morning. I'm sorry. That's the micro effect in the morning. How about that? 7 1 2 4 3 2 0 9 0 0 again 7 1 2 and when you get there a nice pleasant mechanical lady will ask you for a conference room number and that number is 9 5 7 4 and then touch the pound sign and man you're listening to the power 6 and you're unmuted again 7 1 2 4 3 2 5 7 4 and the pound sign and you're hanging with the intelligence reporter on the telephone line. have a number of sales going on. You might want to go through and scroll. I didn't look at everything that was there but I did notice that several Picatinny rail quick release, you know, tab, you know, the lock type release systems where you've got the lever control are marked down right now and we're talking about using Don's night vision technology on a lot of rifles where you're going to only carry one into the field. This gives you the ability to go from a daylight scope to your night vision device and protect your night vision device from half of its activity, you know, half the activity in the field. You know, I'm not so much worried about Typically, again, the covers are secured, etc., although even that's an issue. I would actually put a cloth or camouflage cover over top of a night vision device if I'm going to carry it on my helmet or if I was carrying it in the field during the day just in case. In other words, have somebody make a nylon wraparound like a shower cap. It's made of nylon elastic, but a camouflage cloth and subdued, whatever matches your gear. It's a flip over, yep. Yeah, number one, just in case, because we don't want anything to happen to start using up time on that scope, on the tubes. With these quick release rails, you have a little picatinny rail release system there. You put it into a small pelican can, little one, just big enough for the unit and padded to protect it. That armored shell makes all the difference. That goes in your gear. Your day optics goes on your weapon and it's just that quick. It takes longer for me to describe it than it actually would take for you to do it. Okay, but a lot of guys you're going to be carrying a threes a lot of you guys are carrying a a case and whatever model There's a lot of slide-down rails too numerous to mention The other thing about though putting it out taking it off the weapon has to do with just beating in the field guys You got to remember you're carrying a rifle You're moving through brush low cover you lean the vehicle the weapon up against a vehicle for whatever reason you do it it happens Okay, and oops something goes wrong Well, gravity sucks, number one. It's always the case, no matter how hard you try. Things get bounced on that fine piece of equipment, kind of defeat the purpose of why you bought it. In other words, it can put it offline real quick. If you're deployed anywhere from, again, the remote areas of Arizona or even in the more built-up areas like in Texas where people are deploying right now, where you're a little closer to society, either way, replacing it real quick isn't going to happen. You see what I mean? And again, you're deployed, you really don't want to break contact or leave the area of operation, you're committed to an activity. In the future, you'll be in a fighting situation, well then you're going to be picking it off the store shelf, you see what I mean? So, preserving your technology, if it's not in use, it should be out of sight, out of mind and protected. That way, it can't possibly be damaged unless something runs over all of you, you, the gear and the weapon, okay? Otherwise, again, my point about also with the, because not just weapon mounted night vision is out there, a lot of guys have invested down in these helmet mounted rigs that are exactly what the military is carrying and I see over and over again that they're just exposed. They're wearing them and they constantly have them hooked up. And they're black against a perfectly camouflaged helmet. Yeah. And sometimes a painted face and perfectly camouflaged mats to the environment uniform and they're black. And they just stand out like, what's that black thing over there in the bushes? It just moved. Yep, exactly. And for that reason, again, the idea is to shield it. This protects the caps. It creates a uniform rolling surface. So something hooks it because, you know, if you look right outside your window right now, imagine having to go through a tree line with things that can catch on things. and with your luck you know remember if you know peace of mind drags along or peace of branch drags along hook something pops the cover you don't know it and you've got white light streaming into the system now nothing like that is going to be beneficial for your your night vision device and with all the other things going on one of the little twig will probably work work like a bumper switch in and hit a power supply switch or something you know what happens Yeah, it's a million pressure points coming at you once. We're not talking out in the middle of the desert, you know, a little of BFE where you got yucca and you got knee-high scrub, or even barely that. Mostly coarse rock and lots of roll. In this case, just look out your window. Look at the environment you'll probably be operating in. And remember, that's what you have to think about. We've been in the field like this before. We mostly work in a temperate environment where we are. But even down on the border, there are places where, like where they're deploying down in Texas, you've got a lot of foliage, you've got low trees, you've got coarse shrubs, and by the way, everything is pokey and everything is rubbery. That's another thing, it's not like when you talk about near the waterways down there, the stuff that has survived is the stuff that can survive being nibbled down by the creatures. So it has a tendency to have its own natural defenses. which of course are also designed to work against you with the exact same way. So just something to think about there and why it is that we need to be thinking ahead. They're little items or little things that can be done but they make all the difference. However, the Fourth of July sales, I posted some of the locations in the chat room. Centerfire has a mix of stuff right now. Keep shooting. I didn't see much. CDN Investments does have a bunch of stuff listed. AIM Surplus, nothing special. JG Sales, they got a whole front page of hardware like weapons and such that are marked down a little bit. Maine Military seems to be business as usual. Apex Gunparts has 108 4th of July special item prices. You want to check that out and see what they have because they're too numerous to mention. Don't know what all is there, but there's a lot there to check out. So take the time and go to ApexGunParts.com, JGSales.com, CenterFireSystems.com. uh... and if you got the others post in the chat room please will pass them on because any place we can save money you know through the weekend that's more money we could spend on more ammunition more batteries more night vision word daylight optics whatever it is you're gonna need to supply film system uh... the other thing you're done real quick on that with uh... and here's something that i've been wondering about any course we know about senator impacts and and you know the the aim pop potential but To spare the thermal. We don't want to run the thermal any more than we want to run the night vision if we can keep it down, right? Well, that's a good point, but you know you can use thermal in the daytime too. Without any adverse effects. Just don't find it out of fire. Don't look at the sun with it, you know. The same things don't look at the moon with a piece of night vision. But it's so clear! Yeah, I know. Yeah, right. It's reflecting something. Let's give you a little hint there. Why can you see the moon? No, it hasn't so light, Don. I saw, I've read all of science fiction. It has its own light. No, it doesn't. It's a big reflective pool in the sky is what it is. So don't forget that. But the reason I bring this up is because one of the things that is out there are a series, there's more than one type, of multi-picatinny rail AK fixtures. It has the picatinny side rail, two stations, and it has one on the roof. Now, one of the things to take into consideration, what about mounting a night vision on the roof? and a thermal on the side just to make that a multi-purpose package. Is there a way to keep it light enough? I mean certainly the first generation is a tad lighter weight than the second and third that are out there, am I correct? Oh, when you come to that first and second, if you're looking at the older first generation which was a PVS2, that was a cascading system you guys. That was a tube feeding a tube feeding a tube that lit the screen, the ocular side. Now that device weighed about 6 1⁄2 pounds. We've got a first generation device down to under 2 pounds now and a second generation right in there. A second generation tube is about a third again as light as a first generation tube. But then you have to put it in a body. So the weight factors are simply into the size. You might see a focal length on a second or third generation device just because it's got a bigger front lens too. But you don't have to worry too much about weight. One of the things I've seen is a rail with a mount on each side at 45 degrees. A rail standard center top of the bore and then another rail at 45 degrees on each side of that. That would be pretty neat for a piece of night vision, a piece of thermal, and even a laser. You could do something like that. We've cautioned the use of a laser. You guys, if you have a pair of goggles, a monocular, something that hangs from your helmet or your headgear, or is even handheld, and you have a sidearm but no other way to target at night, look for a laser for your sidearm. There are some pretty cool ones for 1911. They'll fit in the spring guide shaft tube. They'll fit in the pistol grip itself. I like that one in the spring guide. It's real close to the bore. It's real close to the bore. We've addressed this before and Mark, this is one of those phrases that can happen faster than you can explain it. You're walking along La Dida with your piece of night vision or you're set somewhere and here comes the target. Now you bring the gun up to the general area and if you've practiced for a while with this like the point and shoot standard, we've talked about that. It's better to take aim but if you practice point and shoot to like 20 yards, you can get real close at it. And if you practice that point and shoot to 20 yards, if your target is 40 or 60 yards away with the handgun, you should be close enough that you touch that laser pad, correct for aim, and take the shot. It happens much faster than I've just described it. You touch the laser pad, correct for aim, and take the shot. So the laser might be lit up in the field for three-quarters of a second or a whole second while you correct for aim and take the shot. Now, these are bare minimums. This is how you could target. It's a little bit harder to do with a rifle. If it were a M16 pattern type in a variant of an AR15 and 223, you could do that with one shoulder. Granted, your second shot might not be as accurate. You'd be hard-pressed to do this with an AR10 unless you're Billy Bad Guy. You know where I'm going. But it can be done with a handgun and a laser and a handheld piece of night vision. Now I wouldn't say quick take that shot at 480 yards with even, you know, there are some rifles that have been shortened to the extent that they are classified as pistol and mostly comes in the barrel and that 480 yards boy oh boy you might want to get a little closer a mark. Oh yes, as a matter of fact, the big thing here again though is looking at the technology guys, where are you without it? Yeah. Right? That's the most common issue that we bring forward over and over again here is look at the dimensional change. That's the common I'm hearing mostly from everybody. It's like, you know, you really don't, you know, what we do understand, but you know, the idea is you feel like you're in a smaller box. When you can't see right? Oh, it's just the world closes in around you. You've read this in books all the time Haven't you or in accounts? Well when you all of a sudden have the ability to see that box changes real quick in fact that containment that box disappears Think about it. So this is a solution guys something we talked about for a long time How can we you know deal with this problem now? We're working off first gen Now, we're working on smaller. One of the other things you should point out, Don, remember guys, those first generation, first gen, first gen systems, how big was the torpedo, Don? Oh, gee whiz. It was longer than the receiver of your M14 or M1A1. Think about it. It would make your AR15, your M16 pattern type gun, double in its weight almost. Today, what are we looking at? We can sit right on top of an air 15A3 and you wouldn't notice there any different from a standard 5-power monocular, right? A telescopic sight. A daylight sight. Just a change there. See, this is one of the things when we speak first generation, then people think they back down. But in reality you've got to remember that what we perceive as first generation has also improved and changed over the years based upon, you know, progressive experience and the systems developing themselves. You know, the companies developing the technology, getting it first gen to where it is in size, then stacking and then the second gen, third gen, now or even the fourth gen, which simply has more detail. Not a great expansion in terms of range, but Of course with detail comes distance because you're bringing in greater detail at greater range if you have the ability with smaller pixelation to do that. Oh the depth of field apparent in fourth generation almost looks like you could stick your finger into the picture you know what I mean but the problem with fourth generation in order to gain that ability they've removed a portion of the protective film on the device on the front lens and When a second, third, and fourth generation tube is built, part of that process is heating a piece of glass and stretching it, letting it cool, and then cutting it. Now laying those two overlap stretches together, heating it and stretching it and cooling it and heating it and stretching it and cooling it until you can stack those strands of glass to like a PBS2 would be about, and again we're referring back to first generation, about 28 lines per millimeter on the ocular side. Today's first generation is 40 to 45 lines per millimeter, that much finer a picture. That alone allows you to discern and determine things farther away, that finer picture. Some of the Russian first generation, that pond 2, which kind of looked like a movie camera but it hadn't appeared to be like an aluminum body. That was 12 to 14 lines per millimeter. You would be hard pressed with that lousy an image to read a billboard, you know, a sign on the side of a highway at 30 yards, at 40 yards. You'd be hard pressed to read the billboard. 40 to 45 lines per in a first generation tube is a real good thing. When you look at second generation tubes, start at 32 to 34 lines per millimeter and go up from there. There's a comparison right there. Interestingly enough too, now let's get into something else here. tied in with this because we've talked about before using LEDs guys, infrared LEDs, any number of different pieces of technology and equipment to illuminate the downrange area. We're looking at the border where we have the ability to create and in fact we have all the time necessary to establish the area of control and to in fact signature it with ranging markers. Don, we could do that with either LEDs or even with reflectors, couldn't we? Oh yeah, if you're going to light up an infrared illuminator, even a marble, you guys in plain sight will tend to glow. Wow, look at that marble when you put an infrared illuminator on it. If you were to forward deploy dinky little lights, you don't want them directly in your line of sight. This is a good point to be made because we can elaborate on this in particular in a fixed position like a border. You guys, we've talked about using light like mines or using light like barbed wire. You know, barbed wire is only as good as the gun that overlooks it. We've established that, haven't we? Now, some of the crooks, some of the cartel people, you know, they got all of this money, you know, and they got to do something with it and some of them are smart enough that, well, where do you think they get those automatic weapons? And where do they think they get that piece of night vision? So, if they're moving north, and here's where we employ forward light like mines or like barbed wire. If they're moving north and they are not equipped with night vision, they will move into your illuminated areas. If you're using infrared illuminators, they will never see them with their naked eye. They will move into a better lit area if you are deploying first generation. You will be able to identify targets easier, able to track them farther away. But now, the next step up, here comes this coyote, and he is a smart coyote. He bought him a piece of night vision. It says, Made in Israel on it, and he bought it. And he's moving north, and he sees these lights. Now he decides he doesn't want to move through there. So he moved to the east, or he moved to the west, and he keeps going until he no longer sees the lights with his night vision. And he brings down the night vision, and he doesn't see any other lights. Then he starts to move north again, but that's where your second and third generation devices are That's where your devices are that aren't depending so much on ambient light that will work into lower light and don't need that forward illumination when there is no moon So see how you can use light like barbed wire? Use your imagination you guys and if you think of that scenario it would be very well to remember it in the field both moving into a lighted area and using that lighted area to force you into another position. Bear that in mind. Thank you Mark. We're looking at American real estate where we're deploying down on the border or deploying in an area, for instance even your retreat, your private property. You're not leaving the area and having to take control. You already have control or you already have reasonable access and without doing anything that's going to go boom or explode or whatever, you can completely change the limiting factor of your enemy or the aggressor. to move through the area because you can put fires where they need to be. Now when we mean fires, we're talking about using your personal weapons to control the area because without a rifleman there, all the barbed wire does is slow somebody down a little bit, but they keep going through. Yep. That's all there is to it. Minefields even. Well minefields are dangerous, yes, and psychologically it's hoped that you will stop somebody, but motivated, crazy, whatever term you want to call it, A minefield even will only slow people down. Eventually everybody figures out, let's be honest, people figure out where the mines are. You send a herd of the neighborhood who you hate, you send his herd of goats through there. Boom, boom, boom, bop, bop, bop, boom. There we go. They in the goat path that goats just made. And even after that, eventually it's common sense that you observed how deep the field was, you've observed the area of activity, you know what type of devices are probably deployed, and once you rid yourself of a majority of, or at least identify the majority that have been destroyed in the pattern, Then you carefully observe and move through the area to identify the path of least resistance without the probability of setting something off, and you can move through the area with impunity. If nobody's covering that element, if nobody's covering that area, then there's nothing to restrict you from moving through. Minefields, barbed wire, physical obstructions are designed to be used to retard the activity of an aggressor. Now, does that necessarily mean that you're going to be firing up anybody? No, the idea is that you have the ability to perform an effective defense should something become uniquely, shall we say, retrograde, going south fast. The idea is that there's no guessing, there's no confusion, everybody is trained, everybody is conditioned, you all know your ranges, you all know the distance is involved with white light even. Remember that you can use colored reflectors, guys. With white light you can create a color ranging system. Think about it. All you do is hit a spotlight over an area. And those bike reflectors that you put on every one of the fence posts with a number marker next to it during the day, you can see the number marker. Depending on how you paint the number marker that's facing you, you can also read it with that night vision at night. Depending on illumination from overhead, for instance, moonlight, it could even be read with conventional optics at night. You're going to see lots of lasers on a battlefield, Mark. The main turret and the coax gun on Abrams is laser targeting, isn't it? You're going to see lots of lasers on a battlefield. One thing you want to do, or if you want to see people, a group of people jump, or move in a particular direction in from a fixed position. You guys go to the junkyard, go to the junkyard and come away with the biggest tail lights you can find. Bring away the reflector portion of the inside. So you have the whole of the unit. Position these at 100, 300, an area where you might have people moving through and position them in a direct line of sight. Now, you might see with that first generation the hint of movement out at the edge of your ability to discern. But you throw that red laser into that tail light and it lights up the immediate area. It lights it up like it's a little fire right there instantly. And that tail light will be visible to everyone. And it will be the main attractor. They probably won't be looking at where the laser is coming from, at least for an instant in their panic. and one might use this to drive people to a different area. Go back the way you came or if you light one a little bit farther away and then light one closer to them, they might want to move away from that area. See how you can drive people with light sometimes. Now a determined foe, he's probably not going to pay too much attention to this after a moment. He's going to be sending something down range to where the laser is coming from, but you're prepared for that, aren't you? Because you see him now. See how that works? And that's like a, I just threw that light switch 200 yards away. No wires involved. Man oh man. Again, use your imagination. Thank you Mark. Very good. And another thing here guys, we can build up kits to do this also to actually deploy. One of the things they make, in fact the guys were doing these years ago, they've been around for a little while now, you've got blinkies. with a blinking large lens LED that are cheap, cheap, cheap China Sport now they're bought out there by the bags full and go to the dollar store China Sport aisle where the watch batteries are there by literally the dozens for a dollar you can also find suppliers that will provide you with the generic watch batteries dozens or hundreds for a dollar literally but Mark they're not that fancy nope and they aren't meant to be but with that any hot glue gun Guys, you can create a whole series of markers. You can actually have the kit sitting there and these markers can be put together in the field. Don't have to even use a hot glue gun. You can use just simple glue. They're a temporary item to begin with. You can use Gorilla Glue in a bottle. Whatever you want, it can handle all weather environments. and with a little bit of creativity, one lead, negative contact, the negative contact on the watch battery, the other one is left untouched, but it's bent with a piece of cardboard or paper in the way so the lead doesn't make contact with the other side. When the time comes and you want to use it, you pull the piece of paper out of the way, the other LED makes contact, the other lead makes contact with the battery, and you've got a blinking, illuminating light that will run all night. that could be done with a tripwire. Now, I'm told years ago, I saw a number of them, Radio Shack used to sell a laser detector and an infrared laser detector. It was just a little square plastic thing. It had a chip on the back of it. You had to power it up. But if one had the ability to shine a laser onto that, I'm certain one could turn it into an on-off switch. Now, we've just upgraded from the tail light lens reflector into an area to turning on a light in a given area with a laser. The laser goes on, touches the switch and goes off. Now that area is lit. It could be white light, it could be infrared light. Just a thought, you guys. It won't cost you tens of dollars, it won't cost you hundreds and certainly won't cost you thousands. Just a thought. Thank you, Mark. And we are at the top. Yes, we are. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Don, your number for night vision. Give it out a couple times, please. Hey, goggles or gun sights. Green screens are thermal. I'll put a first generation gun sight right in your mailbox for $390. All you gotta do is give me a call. My number is 231796. Thank you Mark. God bless you. God bless America. the revolution. Thank you for listening to LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com. 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