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He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me and fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. Parents labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate Christian values, can't doubt the current use in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. 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Intelligence report. I'm Delryne Neal. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers, behind the lines in occupied territories west. Hello, micro effect network in the morning. We're also on Liberty Tree, Radio.4mg.com, we're on AMEN FM micro station, CB base station, and Ultra Net Technologies east and west of the middle of Alaska. Hallmark network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. To the bottom of Florida, this is the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed Louisiana, Mississippi Tech. A big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both 3rd and 5th. broadcasting of course off micro effect feed by a satellite and over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and land in the smoke restaurant cruise grandma teams and the model bill grandma consortium out of anywhere but it's also not quite sold yet but the cool air settled in which is a good thing that's brought in the storm here in Michigan so you might have to pick a few things up when you go out in the yard you'll probably find some water sitting here and there or in things you left out Yeah, we got 1st of July 2014. Right now we got Frank in Florida on the lines, who was on here earlier. Good morning, Frank. Yeah, I'm doing it. You know, one question I have is, I haven't heard any answers to, is how is it that the Intel report seems to be able to cover itself without too much trouble, but the micro effect is having problems? It seems to me either there's not a listenership, or perhaps, you know, the content isn't what it should be. Now let me just say this, I contributed to the micro effect a couple of weeks ago. I only listened maybe once, maybe twice a week. Okay? But what goes through my mind is that since we flakely, whatever Mark's going to say, I can hear on the intel report. So, you know, like, why should I contribute? I contribute because, you know, I'd like to see you succeed, but other people need to think of the same thing. So, You know, half the right bucks. Go ahead Mark. Well, we have a diverse group of people here on the micro effect. That's one of the advantages and one of the things I've promoted for years is Patriot Broadcasting. I understand that a lot of people listen in, you know, specifically in the morning. We're a drive time window kind of thing, so I hopefully try to keep it a little more entertaining if at all possible. That's something I learned a long time ago, plus it's the idea is to put fun into what we're doing while we're busy fighting for our lives. We do have other broadcasters. Jeff Bennett has been with Patriot Broadcasting for nigh on a couple of decades and he's been doing broadcasting since before that. Jack Blood is still with us, isn't he? Yes, he is. And Jack Blood is of course a younger man. He's come into the fold and he has a listenership I know. So for I guess the way to put it is this way, I know what Frank's talking about. For the people who Enjoy listening to the intel report in the morning and or you know again being able to you know, pick back information or at least pull information from the program. Guys, in order for this to continue to happen, you're going to have to support the micro effect. Well, I want to understand the question. Frank, you were asking why the Liberty 380 has what? No problems? Is that what you're saying? Well, not paid for problems, but they don't seem to have the problems funding as the micro effect. Let me break that down. Mark, do you have satellite feeds on this? That's what I would say right off the bat. One of the differences is that in building up the micro effect, the micro effect is the network before it became all the little girls of Republic Radio International. Liberty Tree Radio has been there from the very beginning and was again a system that my youngest, my oldest son Ed, built as part of a growing up process. Micro-FM, and went from there just like pretty much everybody who's built a network up. Joe doing a micro-FM, building up the network, adding to it, and doing 24-hour broadcasting. Expense is the satellite feed, which everybody, you know, a lot of people are feeding off from right now. The loss of that because a lot of our micro rebroadcasters are able to, with uninterrupted, pick up the feed non-stop. And I would say probably anywhere from 65% of our micro rebroadcasters have to be running off satellite right now. They're in remote locations or they're in locations where computer is not reliable. Even today, here in the 21st century, computer is not reliable. Neither is wireless nor has, you know, dial-up or whatever. which also requires T1s. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of technology we've built. We have two T1s running in the office. We have satellite feeds. We have more than what Liberty Tree Radio has. In that respect with regard to the satellite feeds and the technology that's required, so we have... I mean, we've talked about this before. The satellite feeds by themselves are a big chunk of change. We don't do shortwave. we i'd like to do shortwave and the uh... at a given point uh... we were doing many powers of shortwave but the culture of wave is so monstrous for our i mean certainly there's a benefit you have a you know again a lot of larger planetary audience from another venue but uh... we've had to stay that we've had to hold back if we were able to get ahead And we've had that discussion. We've always wanted to go a short way, but there's never been financial repossum. Even a couple of hours out of the 24-hour period would make a big difference. It would be a starter because it's another audience that may or may not know about internet, or may or may not know, despite what everybody thinks. Well, everybody knows about internet. Well, a lot of people don't like internet. And a lot of people have satellite because what's actually happened is we went from 5 and 10 foot and 12 foot satellite dishes which really are very good pieces of equipment to selling everybody a frisbee, a pie plate to collect satellite on them which is why a lot of people can now afford satellite whereas before they didn't think it was possible. Now you'll find dishes all up and down the road in every village, community, city, I don't care where you are, these are clusters of 5 and 6. You know, if you notice that, like we have apartments, you'll have five, six or seven dishes set up. And most of them are really doing the same thing and thing, but because each one is their own receiver, they have to have their own dish. And satellite is very common today, more so in many ways than it was even 20 years ago. Does this answer your questions, Frank? Yeah, so that's the expense. The satellite issue is the expense. What it needs is, what we pointed out before, is more sponsorship where people get motivated. To a degree, I think one of the problems where other people are going offline has been the Weezer Effect. Every, you know, it's bizarre to me, people are like, they're watching everything, we're all doomed! Well, everybody starts getting dragged down by that dead weight. You know, the attitude, we're doomed, we're gonna die. It's People Resist, it's written, we owe it's written in stone, we might as well just roll over and let them kick us in the crotch a hundred million times. Well, eventually everybody agrees with the characters that are yapping that. You know, well, did you see what they did? They're gonna do all this is why it's funeral resist all and why am I listening? I mean that's the problem with a percentage of what I have seen especially most recently where you've got these people You know don't do this don't do that. Oh my god, whatever you I wouldn't do that Well, I would go out in the fourth of July. We're all gonna die, you know that kind of stuff. I'm hearing that And that these people also are having a major problem, although I guess some people like the Doom, Death and the Richyll suicide, slash Supa-ku, you know, disemboweling yourself and not waiting for the second to chop your head off. A lot of people enjoy that. But they usually aren't anybody that's supporting the networks either, which I found over and over again. The problem is, the good hard charges we have, like you said, you've donated to the Micro Effect, We need everybody to step forward. One of the audiences that really needs to step forward is the micro-rebroadcasting audience. The only reason that micro-rebroadcaster is able to plug and play and walk away is because of the micro-effect. And satellite. Yeah, the satellite. The satellite is the coolest tool we could have, which again means that, well, yep, still going to make a living, still going to go out there and work your hours off. You can plug in your micro station, hook up that little satellite dish from Rick's satellite, walk away. And other than checking to make sure that it's not doing shopping strange because you're about watching the... Other than that, you're squared away. And you'll know that there's a problem with the radio station while you're out driving around listening to your own radio station, you see. Which is one of the other reasons a lot of people have done it off the satellite feed. They want a clean feed, they want to hear the program wherever they are in town, and so they set up their own little FM station, or AM. But it's It was an ongoing battle that we, it was a choice that if we did it or as it was done as Joe choose to do it, it means that everybody, unfortunately every month we have to step forward. That bill is always there. It never goes away. We've dealt with this for decades. And if you think that's got awful, let me explain something. You know what? Everybody listen to us. Frank, did you just listen to us on shortwave? I'm sorry? Did you listen to us when we were on shortwave at all? Yeah, yeah, it was awful. Well, it was like, yes, well, yes, I know. You had to sit there and work the variable rheostat to tune in constantly. I understand that. Exactly. You had to work to listen to that. But you know what? You know what it cost us per month? $29,000. Everybody heard that number? $29,000 per month was the cost to keep the shortwave network, the shortwave frequencies up. And here's the other thing. It was $21,000. But once you get a bigger listening audience like with WWCR, do you know what they do? Up your rates. But wait Mark, you're buying more time, it should be cheaper. Yeah. This is all the behind the scenes stuff. $29,000 for all the different shows. What about the time we're done, remember too? We were buying shortwave frequencies for pretty much all of our primary hosts through the network. Of course the hosts were supposed to support the mother network so that everything was accomplished. Well, we've got this programming in the morning, which I know everybody apparently likes. But to keep it going, people are going to have to schedule in, you know, supporting the network. And I mean everybody else out listening, not just you, Frank, but people out there that are special in the micro-broadcasting or that are listening on satellite, which we're getting basically a one-time fee. Once you hook up the satellite system, you're able to listen 24-7. Hit the switch, listen, and you know, you can leave your satellite plugged into the micro-effect and walk away. and come back 15, 20 minutes later, five hours later, 15 hours later, it'll be right there. Right in the studio. I'm sorry, go ahead. Well, you know, just one other thing that makes the whole problem with funding so ridiculous is that if people, surely the program is worth a dollar a day, a half a cup of coffee. I mean, a dollar a day, that's $30 a month. I mean, I'm sure that would make things run pretty smooth enough. Well, exactly one of the things that uh... like we pointed out, if everybody out there just did the uh... the basic right off the bat for a year, you know, for a month, you know, or for a, you know, for the year, see, it would just, you know, twelve, one dollar for each month of the year. And then did that every month. You're not really out that much. You can do it even in automatic, like we've talked about, subscription, which is something that's pretty straightforward. If you're in the computers, guys, you know you can subscribe to the Micro Effect and there'd be an automatic payroll, like pay deduction that goes to the micro effect. That subscription process also would get you all the archives as a return gift. It's part of that we have a library. The library is accessible but it is a tit for tat thing. You send a gift to the micro effect. That gift means that you get something of service in return. That service does cost something. It's the many many hours, the 24 hours of broadcast time times however many days in the month that become the expense. Because there's a lot of things that aren't factored in that if you were a small business like something that BC brought up the other day, even if you're a big business. In fact, even if you're government, why does a hammer cost $24,000? Well, because what they do with their bookkeeping is they calculate every last thread of connection to that hammer. So in theory, this hammer costs $24,000. Well, it costs this much for each person that has some attachment to it. In reality, we don't pick the bills apart quite that way with what you do in everyday life. for all practical purposes strangely enough it really is about the same as those crazy government bookkeepers do with any other aspect of running a small business or a small operation or even a mid-size any private institution or operation that really is trying to freestand you see that that's the thing that we're dealing with here do we want where we don't get any government funding we're not like national pablum radio where they hate other completely run by the government they have pockets of money at their discretion and they push you know they if you want to you know the push-proof is non-stop you know again patriot independent art casting but it costs just like anything else does and the other thing is i've said a million times this is the most if zero element of any kind of industry you could live in because if you actually had a library you have books you can go wow there's books on the shelf but you're in electronics and we're in this transition where people really can't relate to how when you do radio it's like it goes out it doesn't come back it's a very Well, it's not it's a it's a it's a pulse benefit difficult for a lot of people to deal with that Yeah, you're living in the body literally. I mean we're but it's it's what everybody wants. They wanted on-time delivery They wanted that moment. They want it now and I understand that It's something we have been actually quite heavily conditioned to and we're actually losing it despite what everybody thinks There are so many things that are going archaic or going backwards they're saying that we're advancing into the... No you're not, this is backwards. Well we talked about Texas the other day. Texting. Yeah, to me. That's so 30 years ago. That's so a huge tax free telegraph on your telephone in your pocket. Yeah, I got a telephone, it's a Star Trek communicator and I bought it because I can talk instantly to anybody in the world, so I'm texting. Good, why did I buy the telephone then? Couldn't I just want a little keypad and be done with it? You see, but again, what happens, it becomes an entertainment tool onto itself. In this case, what we're doing in the process is we're interacting, hopefully we're interacting. I'm trying to pick your mind in different ways or try to get, you know, again, give you tools that you can pick somebody else's mind with. You know, Joe mentioned something that to me is, it is true with a lot of people. The polarization in this country is so great. There's a lot of people, like give me about five minutes, not even that, give me a minute or two, and I'll decide whether or not I got a stone cold idiot in front of me. Brain dead. There's no door to open up because there were never any doors installed. You know what I mean? We're going to shut some light in there. It's not possible. The brain is closed. Eventually, like I said, we're going to be deporting a lot of people. I really, really, really religiously believe in that. There's a point at which you have to separate yourself. something it needs to be done but it's what people don't like to hear it's just like well well i don't want to hear that i don't want to hear that up years ago let me get i won't say what but years ago situation family members uh... not my closest family members but the idea that just the information video really see what's this will take a look at what's going on with that thing yet but i don't need to hear that i don't need to hear that bill clinton i'd like to put it in here that now of course that person has half of their medical gone from from the from working for in retiring the retired and they took half their medical right away to a cap of the pension right away they didn't want to hear anything about napkin gap the democratic party could do no wrong bill clinton was the best thing since sliced white bread and of course remember bill clinton was what that happened anyway blah blah blah blah well he signed napkin gap they lost half of their income half the retirement half of everything and then they're taking more of it now because they've lived longer. You know, they lived. They didn't die. It was the first bunch of stuff they took away from them. Well now, it's like, wow, tears in my beers and lying in the same people. Tears in beers and pissing them on and how could Bummer do this? And why in the hell is everybody like, well, we could have stopped this 20 years ago. By the way, there's all the information right there. We told you so. Remember this? That's what they don't like about me being around. Because it's like, yeah, well, we could have gotten rid of it. Oh, we didn't know. Yes, you did. See, that's the other part of pissing me off to no end. Again, it's like, nah. Everybody was warned. Everybody knew. Common sense dictates. Here's how it works. Well, we're some of the people that are talking common sense, and that's why a lot of people don't like what we do. You know what I'm with again? Teaching the ones you can. The ones that don't even have any door frames built in where a door could be installed. Yeah, dust off your cloak. Read the Bible. What does it say? You don't sit there and beat your head against the wall. There's a million other people out there waiting, and a lot of them are so pissed we gotta save them from doing something rash. until we need to do something rash. I mean, I'm not saying that they aren't gonna be shooting people, but think about me, people who talked about where they got frustrated, the introvert or the extrovert, that's what this is for. Not to just vent, because that's not the idea. Oh no, I plan on shooting their high dad. I really do. I put that into my mind that it's fixed there. We're going to fight. What, another one of them started? It's up to you. You guys. You know, there are people who run out on, and some of them are even, you know, are a big enough wave, but all they do is bring you the news. All the, you know, it's like Dan Rather on the shortwave. You guys literally, and they won't bring out anything like preparation, or somebody's gonna pick right into their, now with that mind. How much have you heard about the news in this last half hour? You've heard, prepare that mind. You bring up something from the headlines, it's how it's affecting you, or how they have these, and then we'll go on to. We answered Frank's questions there thoroughly. A lot of people truly don't understand all the legs and everything that's connected to something like the micro effect broadcast. So I hope for some of you that are listening out there, yeah we can reduce a lot of things in a lot of ways. We'll also lose a lot of things in a lot of ways. Let's go to Texas and talk to Ed here. Good morning, Ed. Hi, Joe. I was listening to the caller and what he was saying before about the micro effect and how Liberty Tree Radio seems to be doing much better. We're not really doing much better. We're doing an area broadcast, but I've run on the policy that I'm not going to outgrow my britches. If I don't see the support, I cut back. And that's one thing that I've made a policy, like if the support isn't there and Dad knows, it's a little frustrating at times. Because there's stuff that me and Dad want to do. But we can't do it if the support's not there, and we have to cut it back and put it in the back burner. Dad knows, I've been looking for a shortwave trying to get at least one of the hours of the intelligence report back up on shortwave. I can't do it if the support's not there. And it doesn't matter what hour it is. If it's the hours in the morning or if it's the hours in the evening. Dad knows this. We've done it before. Even while he was in prison, you know, the station's being hicked up, up and down. And I think that's one thing that people, you know, they want everything to stay at the level that it's at. And expect you to upgrade when there is no change in the, you know, resource coming in. And it gets overwhelming and people forget that. It's really easy. I know Henry was thinking the same thing for a bit until I had you two talk to each other. You've got to understand, we're not some big corporation. There's only so much one family can do. And we're talking about this on Friday. If you want to see something done, it's not saying they won't let that happen or they wouldn't do this. Start saying, I. If you want to see the micro effect succeed, say, I'm not going to let it fall apart. I'm going to do something else, Joe. One way or another. If this is a radio station that you guys want to listen to, support it. I've said that about every radio station. I don't care if it's Genesis, if it's Republic, if it was Three of the People radio network. If you listen to it and you, even if you're just listening to it and enjoying it, or if you're listening to it and getting some benefit out of it, think of it as the only source that you're getting good information from, support it. Because if you don't, it's not going to be there. Or they have to cut back. I don't like to watch radio stations fall apart because, yeah, there's... I'm sorry Joe, I know it's stressful when you gotta cut back because you have to figure out what you got left and what you can afford to cut and then when you cut something people complain about it not being there. You know? Well, you know, I've actually seen where, you know, well hey, if you'd just told us, you know, I would have done this or you know, this or this, so I'm telling you. This is what we're explaining. I've had people tell me that too and then when you tell them it's like well you're just begging for money. So some of those people are just, they're there but they're not there. Well you know for the hackers that we have out there. I was just in the hospital for a couple of days. I had my appendix removed. That bill was I don't know 15, 16 thousand dollars something on it. That's what I was told anyway by the financial aid eater at the hospital. I want you all to know something. What we're doing here, this, has nothing to do with that whatsoever. Not a penny will cross that line. We've already, for example, we've been to that hospital before. We've had some bouts here in the past, serving with Kelly and myself. They're trying to help us figure out a way to cover, we're upwards of $200,000. I wouldn't try to fantasize or imagine for a second that I have any resources to cover $200,000 for the doctor bills. The other part of that is, okay, now this over here requires this many dollars CO2 function for every month. Okay? So for those of you out there listening and knowing that, you know, yeah, I just got out of hospital, one has nothing to do with the other. And there will not be a nickel sent one way or the other to, you know, towards hospital bills. We do have what I consider to be a hackler. Oh man, you just ask for money to cover your doctor bills or your car payment. Joe, can I say something? Go ahead. Even if that was the case, if Joe or the family isn't there to operate it, who's going to run it? Who sets it up to say, hey, I'm going to take this over for Joe while he's sick? There's nobody there. Nobody here. So it shouldn't matter if it crosses that line. Because they're donating to the station to support you so you can maintain the station. And if you're not there to maintain the station, it doesn't matter. And if people can't get that through their thick skull, it's their fault, not yours. Well, right now the struggle is, like I've been talking, we need to get this snapped out of the water. What's really strange to me, I'll share this with you. I've had people tell me, Joe, you need to get back on the air. Joe, you need to get back on the air. When you're on the air, things happen. The first time I was told that, I thought, yeah, okay, man, I just don't feel like, oh, I'll put my pants on like everybody else. But I found it to be true. When I come to the air, I don't know what power my voice has, or whatever, who I am, whatever. So, you know, and the only time I really have to do that is first thing in the morning because I have other things that need to be done here. So, you know, I have people ask, well, how come you only come on in the morning with Mark? Well, it's because, you know, I actually have a show scheduled for evening that I could almost never make because I'd be getting out here doing something, you know, taking care of business. It's also, you know, this is the things people forget. I have a very large family. to take care of as well. And you know, the process with this, I can get in here first thing in the morning, everything goes well, do my patriotic duties, and then I have to do my fatherly duties and all these other things. So I have a full schedule from day to day. And so taking that into consideration, just a matter of somebody walking in, hit a button on their computer, or turn on their satellite feed, and here we go. taking all that for granted as it's produced on a daily basis. Imagine having to pay, let's say, everybody on this network, $5 a day. $5 a day. So you have, I don't know, 8 or 10, you know, we'll just go with that, you know, $50 a day for what we're, say we're doing now. It would actually be more than that. At that day, that bill would be held collectively, gathering day after day after day after day, 365 days a year times however many, and look at the bill that would create. If nobody would be willing to pay a minimum wage for those who are trying to save, and it's not necessarily a pay, support. Support somebody for you know, a minimum wage on a daily basis if you come on for two hours a day I don't know what's a minimum waste day. I don't know five or six bucks or something I don't know but you know, we did a breakdown on that for woodra-d-trou radio how much I pay myself and it's a little minimum wage You know, I'm not I'm not taking that much even then what I'm talking about paying myself I'm just talking about covering the electrical bill here. Yeah, there you go bill that covers the radio station. Yeah Well, if you were to pay somebody minimum wage, let's say you come on and do a two hour show every day, so that would be $7. So that would be $14 a day times whatever. Okay, that's not what's taking place here. We're trying to cover the cost so they can reach you. You know, the gentleman was concerned, you know, well how come Liberty T Radio is doing so much better? Well... Somebody Tree Radio comes to the micro effect and we have multiple feeds. You guys are just on Live 365, is that right? We have, it's like your concept of the micro effect with the micro effect stations except we push it also to internet. We have Indiana Freedom Talk radio, we have the word from the trenches that we broadcast. We have a number of other radio stations that tune in and put the beat on. It's the same way. Our primary beat is through live 365. But it hasn't always been through live 365. There have been times where we couldn't afford it and we've had to go over to just one instance running off of a cable line with the computer that I had at the time. We could only run 20 people and then I had to go out to the other resources from there to go out and spread out. So there's been times where we've been haven't been able to reach the listener basis that we can. I do like going through Live 365 because if I can't afford to pay for the bandwidth and people really want to listen in, if I have to cut back, the nice thing about Live 365 is that if somebody wants to get in and listen and get a spot, they can pay for the VIP membership and get in when we're full. That's one of the reasons why I went with them, is they have the ability for you to pay for your own bandwidth, so I don't have to. But I will pay for as many free slots as we can afford, but we're not going to go over that. Right. That's a similar situation here. That's just something maybe people will realize is the fact that the internet streams have a limited bandwidth that we pay for. And once it exceeds that, you know, like in the case of, we had one of our feeds here with being heavily accessed. And, you know, I have a policy, if it exceeds the limit or it reaches the limit, then I'll increase it by, you know, 20. And we've had to do that seven times. And of course, we're paying that in advance so people can tune in for free. Okay. And I've had people that have suggested, well, you know, make it so people have to pay to listen to the streams. Well, we know that not everybody can afford to pay a monthly fee to listen to all these things. So we try to keep as much available as possible. But a cost, that is all based on the pre-cance that people are supporting the broadcast and stuff. And we can continue this way. There's no question. satellite feeds, T1 feeds, all these things. We have what we have and do here. is we have larger expenses because we're a larger broadcast network. We have more resources, you know, the satellite and all the things that come with it. Well, you grew and expand, which is what people said that they wanted you to do. That's it. They said they would be there to support you and this is where it's at right now. You've got to either look at cutting back or shutting down for a period of time. That's exactly what we are. If people don't like to hear that, but that's where you're at and that's what you have to do. What we are and what we're doing is what people wanted us to do. We had people wanted us to go, just like we were talking a while ago. They wanted us to go, man, can you guys get on shortwave? Well, yes, we can if we had the funds. But we don't have to know. You and I and Mark, Don, we've all talked about this. Yeah, you know, you get one hour a week, something like Mark pointed out. It is so cost prohibitive that it's very... Oh yeah, it's not cheap, especially if you get good and they know they're getting good ratings, they will cut your power down and charge you more. Yeah, exactly. So it's kind of a... We did what we could do and now we're trying to maintain what it is that we created. So that's what it amounts to. Anything else for us, Ed? No, I just, you know, I'm... I'm with Live 365 for that reason, but you know we have our problems too. I'm looking at the station board right now at the same we got E-listed because I didn't update the track. But as there are benefits and there are downfalls, it's pretty much each system that we can go through. But just keep that in mind people. It's not, we're here 24-7 doing what we're doing and we're It's hard to break away from what we're doing. We don't have a staff of a thousand people behind us running the network. It's your marriage. It's your second marriage. You can't separate from it. We're kind of stuck doing what we're doing. We don't have time always to look for sponsors and whatnot. I've said that before. The best sponsors that we have had have come from listeners who have picked up business cards, told them to get in touch with us, told them about the radio station, what we do. And sponsors come and go. They don't stay with you all the time. Sometimes the sponsors can't afford to be there either, or they don't see the response, and you have to find that niche of what your listeners will respond to as far as advertising goes. And that can be a problem. I mean, it might sound like the cruel idea, the sponsor's great for a bit, and then they might make one or two sales and then decide that they're not getting a good enough response. Back out, that happens. I'm sorry people, it is a business. And even though we're not running it as a business, there's certain aspects of it that we have to look at as a business. Yeah, no choice. Exactly. Yeah, like making a, when we get to a certain point we have to make cuts. People won't like it, but there are things that we have to cut to maintain the operations. And that's all I wanted to stress, Joe. Alright? Alright, well I appreciate your call, Ed. I enjoy listening to your programs in the morning. I'll talk to you later. Alright, thank you. 888-747-1968 Folks, we're going to fight for independence from now till Friday We're asking that you make a donation of contribution to the micro effect to keep us flowing here and I'm going to do my very best to be here every morning But you know these are things that you know things that you're listening to here this morning If you don't understand the operations of a larger broadcast network, you know you Yeah, we can just We can cut it all the way down to one little internet stream and people will be dropping in and out of telephone. Then we'll get the complaint, oh I couldn't listen man. You have to be on this end of the spectrum to understand what people demand. And they do demand. That's why we went to satellite. If you go to satellite man we can do this and we can do that. Well like Mark pointed out, all of the FM stations, AM stations that carry the broadcast, they do it through the satellite system. So for whatever terrestrial listeners we have, you know, they'll be driving off like flies. Let's take another caller here. We got, I think we already called him, Bill in Indiana. Yes, hello Joe. Hello Mark. Hello Dan. I'm here at work, and I'm hearing you going through the numbers there, Joe. If I may offer something, I would say, you know, there's a lot of, I don't know who all of this, but I know who I am. You know, I'm doing all I can to help, because I love your radio show, your station, I love Mark Kunky, I love Eli James, I love the great guys you have on there. I'm doing my part, I wish more people would do their part. I suggest you that make it as you go, because if you don't, if you just try and leave the door open for everybody, got a bunch of freeloaders, okay, who never contributed anything unless you show up at the war gun and just expect everything to be handed to him. It's unfortunate you might not want to get out to reality. Well, let me finish, Joe, please. For the sake of everyone who's there with you, elbow to elbow, this thing pays you go. Because we're all paying you, you know, so make it pay as you go. That room pays you go. Let those blowhards pony up a dollar a month if they want to be pontificating in the chat room all day long. Well, you know, for everything you try to figure out a way to help support yourself, this kind of thing, somebody will come along and tell you, oh, well, I can go over here, and that's for free. They only charge a dollar. Joe, let them go. What we care about is those who care for the cause. Your cause is true and good and right. If they want to align with you, we need them. I appreciate your call, Bill. You're welcome. All right, thank you. I would be moved as to the... me one time by someone you'd recognize his name. shortwave has a great amount of anonymity here on the internet. The internet people, and this is a broad brush to me for those of you who just want to count, but many of the people who pay their bill internet every month believe that that is, that that's all they got to pay cable and everything that comes in I've already paid for. I've never looked at it that way, but it's yeah, you're Well folks, we've got a line over in 888-747-1968. Once again, 888-747-1968. We're going to be fighting here for the next four days for the independence of the microeffect to remain on the air and keep pounding away. Something else I want to point out, and Mark and Don, they both know this, that summer months are very difficult for radio broadcasts such as the microeffect because A lot of people go on vacation, go fishing, what have you. They're not necessarily... The weather is not keeping them inside. They want to get out and do things. That's a natural thing to do. Based on the numbers that we think we're dealing with here, our listening broadcast pretty much remains the same as far as listenership, even through the summer months. But we understand that... and I hope you understand that the support, it's always difficult, bottom line, getting through the summer, and that would be, you know, July and August. In September everybody seems to be, I mean, that's just the way the machine works. You know, it's just when everybody starts going back to school, well then the clothing stores do better, you know, they're buying school clothes and they're buying books and pencils, you know, and all these other things. It just starts picking up and taking a run. It also is a fact that, you know, like after Christmas, during the year, that after Christmas everything dies. Anybody that ever owned a business in their life will tell you that from Christmas to, I don't know, the end of February, first part of March or something, it's just dead. The reason for that is because everybody's expended, you know, everything that they've done, they had their Christmas presents and, you know, all their decorations and all these other things. And it takes a month or two for them to recoup, right? I don't care what business you're in if you're driving truck. or running a store, a meat market, something, whatever you got, it is always, always, always that way. So when these difficult times come, you know, for radio, doing radio, it's obviously the summer months that are somewhat detrimental to keep going in a matter of speaking that creates a difficulty. What I'm saying here this morning is, you know, I have nothing to celebrate this coming Independence Day because I don't feel independent. We have a country that has become absolutely dependent on resources that everybody thinks somehow it's just for free and it came from, I don't know, God or some magic wand somewhere and we are a different breed of people. That's it. We are a different breed of people. You know, I've fought, you know, I've talked about it a few minutes ago. I talked about and will talk. I don't just talk about how I do things. I live these I don't tell you to go out and do this and that I can do something else. I live these things. I'm living in the same system that you are. I'm living under the same tyrannical, overpowering, greedy bastard government that you are. And at times, you know, it isn't nothing different than anything. It gets difficult. It does. But you know, that's when you have to keep fighting back. Even if you're on your back, laying on the ground, man, you've got one more chance to take your enemy down. That's the way I look at it. So we're fighting for... If we're going to celebrate anything... Basically, I'm trying to put something together to celebrate, celebrate the independence of the micro effect that we have now until Friday to accomplish that. So folks, if you will make your contributions, you can snail mail us at PO Box 164, Kami'i, Idaho 83536. Please send us a money order in an envelope, okay, to that address or you can call in with a credit card. Not something I'm necessarily proud of, but this is what we have to do. And sometimes when you're on the battlefield, you just do what you have to do. Use whatever resources you can get your hands on, even if it's the enemy's gun that you were killing the enemy with. So 888-747-1968. And so far, I'm going to give you a live report. So far we've only taken in how many donations? Okay, we've got four donations here this morning. Our goal by Friday that is seemingly so insurmountable is $5,000. And out of that, we're just going to clear the ball field. and try to keep going. So, 888-747-1968, pick up the phone now and call in. Don't wait until tomorrow because when Mark and Don are on at the same time, we've got one line open. That's something that we, Ed was talking about having to cut the cost back. Well, we did. We had to cut the cost back, cut a few lines out in order to maintain and keep the phone systems going. I don't know man, are we fighting a losing battle here? Or are people just losing faith in, I don't know, the micro effect, their country, their selves? What are you losing faith in? I haven't lost really any faith in it. I'm making a business decision here. I'm making a business decision. It has nothing to do with my patriotic goal or what I would do in the future. It's just a matter of what I'm going to be doing with my time. Everything to do with them. That's it. This is where we are, 888-747. We've got a line open right now. I'd like to see it light up right now. 888-747-1968. We've gotten four contributions. We've got a long way to go. And maybe on entry, Independence Day, Friday, we'll actually have something to celebrate. Because right now I don't feel like I want to celebrate anything. And I don't know, you know, that's why I was asking earlier on in the program, you know, when are you going to be celebrating on Friday? What freedoms do you feel that you have or you know it take a look around you my friends? There's something coming that We I'll mark will tell you Donald tell you we're just as afraid of what's coming as you are But that's not the time to lay down and give up and call it good and become a prisoner or what have you or already prisoners in our own country We've been labeled as, you know, all of you speak out against this or you know, all here at Terrorist, you're a member of the Jihad or whatever the hell they could come up with. You know, when it tells you against enemies, foreign and domestic, what the hell do we think domestic is? Why would a government be screaming at their own people, hey you guys are serious? Well you know it wasn't us, it wasn't you and I, it wasn't anybody listening to this broadcast that had any damn thing to do with attacking the World Trade Center. We don't fly airplanes and have bombs and all that stuff. So why are they attacking us? Well it's pretty obvious man, they want their new world order, they want their slaves, they want obedience from you and I. And any opposition to that, the disobedience is who we are. is in fact their opposition. We are the enemy. So when they're standing there, oh, we have to go out and defeat these people, they're disgruntled right here in America. Yes, because we do understand what's going on. We're pointing it out every day. Every day we point out the fact that we know what's being done to this country, what's being done to municipalities, everything that's going on around us. And when people are standing here jumping up and down the street, oh yeah, Obamacare, free medical care. Those are the dumbest asses you have ever seen in your life. Let them jump up and down. Let them get their free iPhones, all this wonderful stuff. Get their welfare checks, whatever. It's all free as if nobody has to pay for it. Hey Joe. People live in the city where the deer just doesn't walk. by and you can't hit it with a hammer or the .22 or the .308 and take the king's deer out of seasons, you can't do in that spirit of Robin Hood, you have to be willing to do whatever it takes to feed yourself. I can't imagine a population, although this is already taking place in history in the Ukraine, a population of some 30 million people that starved to death would grain in their elevators. I can't imagine if people just, you know sometimes when you watch some of them war movies, you know, they got all the soldiers and they got the Jews or whoever is going through, you know, like cattle. Why one of them would just jump up and make any effort and whatever it takes to get a weapon out of the hand to one of them soldiers and start cleaning the clocks. You know, I couldn't imagine a life like that. So folks, we're right up here at the top of the hour. We're going to have three lines open here. We're hoping that you're going to help support the micro effect. Make our goal here by Independence Day. 888-747-1968 and Mark and Don, I'll let you take it from there. We got Joe. So there, guys, will be in the studio, but we also have Jeff Bennett coming up next. Am I correct? Yes, we do. So guys, more programming here, as we pointed out. We do have a diverse group of people working at the micro effect. them by supporting Micro Effect proper Tuesday and we've got four days to work hard at this pass. I would hope that all of you people listening English said if everybody listening just pitched in a little it would get us past this in a very short time and yes we have to do this like casting except public broadcasting actually gets money shoveled them under the table you don't even hear about. Everybody thinks you know voting is a dive-old machine that votes for you and then gives the the wrong answer but it's the answer for the regime. We are there. God bless the republic. Death to order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The empire is on the run. But we are on the march for day and night. Dawn's gonna be available in just a few minutes here like in a moment. Dining number for night vision encloses please. God will take on sight. Screen screens are thermal. Give me a call. My number is 2317984582317968458. Thank you, Joe. Alright folks, we want to stay tuned for live liberty and all that jazz coming up next here on the Micro Effect and Radio Broadcast Network. Stay tuned.