Live 365 because mainmilitary.com is the only story you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at mainmilitary.com. That's main, like the state, military.com. We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun, permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent, although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. 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And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoke vanished in the mist for whence he came, his words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is to still the land of the free? And good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Cornke. And I'm Don Butcher. 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Well, actually the edge of a sunset in the Smokies where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spice. Many hands make for like work. And Don, it is on the edge of sunset, long shadows out there right now, beautiful weather as it is. What's it like in your neck of the woods? What's jumping off the wall up there on your half of Michigan, sir? Well, on this is the ninth day of June. in If you want, just look it up on the internet for yourself. Fine Irish name spelled just like it sounds. John, middle, initial, ass name, McGee, pilot, officer. Shuffle that into your favorite search engine and see what comes up for you. And again, it is the ninth day in 2014. You know, hey, things tend to not hang around forever. That's one thing. The other thing is, you know, hey, it's a beautiful day. Some people look at things and say, oh, it's great, it's wonderful. You can look at every day like, well, it's a beautiful day whether it's raining or not. Every March, it's a parade. You've heard that before. How does that go? Every meal, a feast, every paycheck of fortune. Some of us aren't getting a paycheck. At any rate, when you look at it in a different light, it's like, well, we're going to win in the end. It might be a terrible day, but it's a great day because you know what, at the other side of all of this we win. So it's always a great day, ain't it? One way, shape or form. The other thing is, it's just good to be here. That's almost a quote from Keith Richards at Martin Scorsese that they're, what do they call it, or light a fire or something. At any rate, he walks up to the mic and he says, hell, I'm happy to be anywhere. I guess when you have abused yourself and misused yourself enough over the years that you are like Keith Richards, how does that go? A complete blood transfusion and other things that have been the walking zombie alive for so long. I guess when you get into a place like that in that situation because he has waged a war on his own body, that's the point here. You can say I am just happy to be here, glad to be anywhere. That kind of attitude is what helps get you through to the next moment, the next minute, hour, day, week, month and year. Because well, and Mark, you address this in a number of different ways. I'm tired of hearing about the people, this, that, the molars and the groaners and the Casper milk toast people who want to tell us that it's the end and it's futile to resist and we ain't got a stinkin' rat's chance in hell. You know where I'm restrained to be shown, which is a good thing too. I wonder if Don is just babbling along, but you know what? Let's talk about restraint for a minute. Pretty much we've heard what happened in Nevada there. We've been listening to a little while now and then over the weekend the incident. But now, think of the words that they let out. This is the revolution until the cops had started or something like that. We've heard a couple of different stories already, but those words haven't changed. We've addressed this before and this is a control thing. But what if this happened an hour later in Flat Rock, Michigan? Or what if this happened late last night in Rock Springs, Arizona? Or what if it happened this morning in Round Rock, Texas? About it on the media, on the mainstream media? You know, that's another thing. And we hear this and sometimes someone will say that Someone else will do it or they must already know about it or it has to be national news. Offer this hour as that alternate also because there have been a couple of times that things have been happening real time here on the air and we've made a difference. Remember when people were knocking on Clint Dares' door and that came up right at the front of the hour, remember? They were going to bust down his door and before we had how many calls into the sheriff's office and immediately right it that incident started at about 730 and we were made aware of it at about five till and brought it up on the air at 8 o'clock 830 they were apologizing and leaving you can go back in the archives and that's really what happened Clint can't tell you now he's gone to his reward But that's just one little point mark it many times you talk about we've had these victories here and there, but now what about What if that were to have happened following that event, that announcement that they let out nationwide? Would the media cover it? Because there's two ways they can go there. They can keep a trap on it, they can put a lid on it, they can keep it under their hat, you know, all kinds of real secret squirrel things and keep it very local. Just the point here, if it happens in your neighborhood and you might see it on the local news, but did you see it on the evening news, the 7 o'clock news? Did you see it at 11 o'clock when, you know, The other big news comes in and that's just the broadcast channels. Cable covers things instantly in our man in Texas or Nevada or Alaska or wherever because why we've got that satellite. We're looking for this now. Again, there's two ways the media can go. They could generate a lie. They can continue a lie. Well, there's really three. They can generate the lie if they don't get what they want or they can keep and suppress it. In either way, they would be attempting to disappoint there. Let's see. And again, hey, how does that go? 7-1-2-3-2. Again, you've got to push up one button. 7-1-2-4-3-2-0-0. And when you dial that number, a nice, pleasant, mechanical lady of a voice will ask you for a conference room number. And that number is 9-5-7-4. And then touch the power sign, you know that. And you'll be in. You'll be listening. But 6 will unmute you. And I don't put this out right now. Call and talk about putting 14 inch hubcaps on your 16 inch car or let's go fishing. This is something if it happens local and you know pause and see. Did it come up on the evening news that night? Did it come up on the national news? But sometimes, you know, Liberty Tree radio operates pretty much throughout the daytime. There's someone sitting at a mic. There's a couple hours here where there's sick or what not, but there's other things going on through the day. There's also the micro effect, things going on through the day there. But any one of them would be the lightning bolt, the instant communication out, if that's all you've got. Or if something is going on in your neighborhood that you think that everybody should be aware of other than, I went fishing today. You know where I'm going? Because again, that's half the reason we're here, to take the place of the alternate media. And I know it's not communications Tuesday. But we need to work on this. We need to keep our ear to the rail, our ear to the ground. We need to keep our eyes open for this to see what is suppressed now or what might, Mark, I heard a bell, but that might be a listener, I yield to you, sir. And do we have a caller before going any farther? And we don't have the, by the way, Dom, we don't have the banner up yet for the donations, but you can donate through the standard Donate Key. which will be earmarked anything that's donated if it's earmarked for the yearly bill. Just put yearly bill and then flag it for such and that's where it will go is over into the account. So we'll have that ready to go. As a matter of fact, in fact I haven't looked real now, I got to go back over there, I won't do that right now. A couple of the things here, real quick, remember guys, we're also an early warning system wherever possible, anytime we're up on the air, something is transpiring jump in give us a who what where when report that's what the purpose pan patriot broadcasting traditionally was all about going back 20 plus years ago this year 2014 so it's not 21 years ago actually 22 years ago when the Weaver situation developed that was where pretty much the attitude of everybody changed. We realized we needed an even better national signal security system out there to let people know what was going on. Now I would point out that a benchmark group, the Sun Broadcasting Network, back in the day guys, although shortwave has been around for a long time, shortwave broadcasting in the public venue, equivalent to older AM radio, shortwave 1, shortwave 2? Well, back when the Weaver Siege took place, you might recall, if you're old enough, that people were running to their shortwaves as soon, in fact it was about this time of the night, A little earlier, as soon as the sun was starting to set, whatever, again with a window of activity, they were starting to tune in because the propagation was just right, you had to play with the antennas, and we were pulling in a signal from the Sun Radio Group, Sun Network, as they were reporting on what was going on, or had been going on through the day, up at the ridge up there in Idaho. And what was interesting is you weren't getting any real media coverage because there was a complete FEMA blackout from the controlled media. And the three counties where the event took place, the three areas, the county primary and the two above and below it, were cut off with regard to public communications. So the only way the information was getting out is because of independent work. Now today, here we are with this massive battlefield myriad of signal communications at our fingertips. Hell, if you got the money, you can buy a satellite cell phone that will get you across the planet. You know, they're talking about, well, I don't have a signal. Well, if you have the right contract, you do. In addition to that, satellite uplink, shortwave radio, everywhere, up and down the bandwidth, but also independent broadcasting, which means that in the event something were to start right now, somebody can jump on the phone, jump into the system, get hold of us here, and give a direct on-time report about what's going on. It's not the only way, and in fact shortwave, we do need to be back on shortwave, I just don't see it happening because of the expenditure guys. It is a massive amount of resources needed to get that accomplished. The other tools give us the ability to send a flare out fast before everything does get cut off. And that makes all the difference in the world. But we all need to be focused in the process in order for that to happen. And we need the tools still in place. The micro effect has work that needs to be done. Liberty Tree Radio, as Ed pointed out, we have a goal. That needs to be accomplished. It's very straightforward. Ed will tell you exactly what it is we need. We'll be able to see exactly what the balance is, where we are headed, and then everybody can make a decision. Again, as you have resources available, okay, then if you could, every week while we're in the process, you can donate $5, donate $5. If you can donate a couple of dollars, Donate a couple of dollars now. I recommend a couple at least only because there's always a fee with PayPal I'm pretty sure it's how it's set up now still and so again You know it's an option if you can mail a dollar of course the thing is that that doesn't go into the counter But it is it is part of what's going to go into the inventory And, Ed, we're going to have to keep track of this step by step by step, and we will, so that we're able to give everybody a public accounting of what we're spending our resources on when we get the donations like this. And that's how it has been for a long time. You all know this. And everybody needs to, again, decide. You choose in your heart what you can afford and looking at your wallet what actually can be put towards the cause. But if everybody chips in, It can be accomplished. We are headed towards the bottom of the hour. We are going to take a break. We have a couple of things here. By the way, for Mr. MP, way out there, traveling and hopefully on the road. Interesting point. He's been listening to the program. The brothers who made the Matrix movie, Don. were due to come out with number four movie this June right now. Well, apparently, however, because of the Bundy Ranch deal, the elite plans changed and slowed down. Now new movie to be released later next year. Next year later next year what happened dude? I thought that you know the matrix basically what he's saying is we slowed them slowed them because movie to reveal next move for is Coming up this next year rather than right now this month in other words It didn't plug in the way they planned where everybody be able having to lament Nash of teeth and red of hair because of you know fill in the blank so instead Obviously you got some you know interesting things that go went on and need to pay attention to the environment but understand the bad guys have not had their way. They haven't just had their way a hundred percent. It doesn't work that way guys. So we need to be staying focused and we need to be on mission when the time comes to and pass the word on so that we keep everybody focused on our side. We got to keep kicking them back. The propaganda coming out of the shooting incident out in Nevada It's absolutely canned. There is no doubt. You've even got the mouthpiece parrot lesbian out there for the BLM, actually Interior Minister of the Soviet, flapping hurry apps. I should tell you something right off the bat. It's like, oh well. And you know, as far as actually having to fight, yep, we will. You know, Mark, when you mention propaganda and the rest of that in the same sentence, I really honestly, gosh, I really seriously thought about starting the hour of the weather. And you know, did you see that TV show where the cops were sitting in the donut shop and somebody walks in and kills them? And did you see the TV show where the cops were sitting in their car and somebody walked up and blasted them? Did you see the TV show where the cops were walking down the street or where the cops ran into a house and, well, neither of those teams are here anymore? And you could go on and on about it. It's like the media does. I really thought to start the hour like that because of current events. But we didn't. But it is propaganda one way or another as pointed out. They'll generate something. They'll put the magnifying glass on something and leave it there until it burns an image in your retina in the back of your brain too. Well, to the best of their ability if you keep watching. It's true, isn't it? Well, I'll tell you again for everybody out there listening, take the time, plug in and check out the latest turn of events, one of the stations to look at. www.8newsnow.com. Guys, we need your help with this. I mean everybody pitching in. Take the time and go to their page for the articles about the shooting incident and comment. flood them. And I'm serious, get everybody. I went over to the Facebook thing and just said, hey, everybody pitch in. Do something. Have some fun. Because you see they're trying to push a particular propaganda line. Well, let's point out that we know that's what's going on. In other words, it's basic propaganda 101. We've seen it before. We know how it works. This is what happens. Here's how they do it. And again, the rest is history, as they say. You know, what would be appalling? is if the media put every cop shooting on every day on the news because it happens every day around the country. That would be appalling. Think about it. And that goes again back over to control, coverage, isolation, and containment. Probably heard that screaming getting in the background. Oh, that's okay. Sorry about that. Getting our way now, huh? Well, we have this, we have a black carpet cap. By the way, I will remind everybody again, we got alien genetics going on here. We've got the black dust mob, right? Nancy's holding the Siamese looking kitten that she had. In the lilac slash, yeah, the poofy gray, you know, the gray smokey colored, you know, like tan colored. And I don't know where the hell those jeans came from. Which is fascinating. That's where you heard screaming if you heard it at all in the background. That's what that was. Nobody's hurt. They're just, you know, making noise because they're being held right now and they're warning moms that they need to be saved. I'll tell you, the thing about it is, again guys, for everybody who hasn't taken the time to read these articles, or watch the progression, that's one of the things that I think is most critical, is watching the timeline scroll. and how they progressively once a propaganda minister gets hold of it, all of the cliches, all the verbiage, all the propaganda and the macro BS is plugged in and all the innuendo. But the problem they've got is the country is pretty well divided. I don't even worry about that. The country is divided. You are not going to bring everybody together. I'm sorry, wrong, not going to happen. Everybody understands there's a problem. You're either with the police state, maybe pros act up to it, maybe you're pined they're illicit dope off the side, maybe you're using a certain type of thing. Or just plain stupid. Or just plain stupid. Or stubborn. A lot of people are commenting like, well, they probably got what they deserved, or in other words, well, you know, Metro is kind of dirty cop operation to begin with, all the stuff they've been doing, and nobody's gonna miss them. And it's like, whoa, they're trying to rally everybody, blah, blah, blah. and they had of course they've got a copy of its cry and the one cop there should have gotten older guy my age right well i got this you know again my problem is that the other cops all know it's like there's a camera off to the side and they're all looking at the camera and it's like he did the bill clinton thing you know what i mean like all all we gotta have this for the camera shot but otherwise everybody else is busted up you know what i mean that doesn't mean you are people going to be busted up for a number of different reasons drinking buddies dead whatever blah blah blah blah blah go right down the shopping list but one of the things that i first noticed about these cases and this is something is that normally anybody would ask but not in this day and age any other time in the history if you were to watch a reading thing the question would be about the background of the cops Who was affiliated with who? In other words, what it appears to be and what it may be are two different things. And there's one true thing about, you know, hits like this when they take place. It was old Jewish Mom. It always has multi purposes. In other words, yes, they got rid of the two cops that were dirty, asking for more money. Here's a fun one. Hell, they might have even been one. Hell, one of the cops' names was Egor Boroga or something. Egor Boroga. We haven't we've been talking about Russian cops being moved into the police as of late. I wonder if this was a Russian cop. Yep. Well the thing about the... The one picture the character looks, I mean is literally he's in two other articles over the last year and a half and that's Alan Beck. Now, the other individual, the photo is fuzzier, it's softer, but again, that's a matter of camera operator and quality of the machine they were using for that moment. But the background is such, especially being gray screen, that as far as the whole thing being pixelated mock-up, it's as likely as not. But I swear, like I said, I'm doing the search right now, because there's stuff you guys send us that I don't throw away. So it's on file. And I'm going through again, when I save pictures of all these cops, dead or alive, I don't care. They're all on file. All I have to do, it's like a big, it's like a sci-fi movie only instead. We don't do 50 miles a minute, right? In other words, it's click, click, click, click, click, click. And I know what I'm looking for. Here's the thing. One or two of the shots, the picture is closer, but the mistake is it's still with the same pair of glasses. And it's the same pose. In fact, the only thing that changes is they're using, you know, it's got the new Cop Shop, Naru kind of collar with the little, you know, tiny little markers, you know, which makes it easier to do mockups on stuff, guys. If all you gotta do is pixelate out one, like, you know, like LA Cops or like NYPD, then you can put in LVPD without any problem. In fact, you only need to alter and pixelate two letters. Go ahead, caller, jump in there. Did I understand Don correctly of saying that you guys had a satellite truck? Oh no, no, I was talking about satellite coverage. Oh, okay. And we can be anywhere, but will they? That's the point. That'd be sweet if we had a satellite truck. I didn't mean to mislead you, I'm sorry. Mark almost had two satellite trucks back in the middle 90s. In fact, there was a company selling them here. that uh... they want to get rid of him because he was going to be actually sell the uplink company and there were two older years but they're perfectly functional just they were the traditional monster are you know you have to with the size of a bread truck and every square inch other than the total through the middle you know the walkway was everything you needed to make that work including the cable in the whole nine yards but uh... he was pressured in fact later on he admitted that about just before the oklahoma city bombing We were in negotiations with them and they were pressured. The feds came over and bent their arm the whole nine yards because, oh my god, they can't have an uplink truck. Well, what they didn't know is we could build one. It would just take longer to do it. But that particular system, both of those were just west of us here. And as he pointed out, he goes, eventually, again, one of the British companies came in and bought his equipment for a stupid price. Not to put it online, but to get it out of here. Well that already happened. I mean that was one of things where he would you know, they say threatened them They you say these things we're gonna blow but you know, like nowadays it's non-stop threat threat threat You can't tell them that we talked to you. Okay. Well you you can't tell me that anybody talked to you to you Kenya I can't tell you that I can't I can't tell you that I can't tell you those by the way stop building those guitars Yeah, exactly. You see so The cool thing is it's not hard to kick them like that because eventually the truth comes up. and the iron sights. The reason I did that was I figured at 100 yards, if I'm shooting 4.5 inches low at 30, that they would be pretty much spot on at 100 yards. Would that be a good guess? This is a good point to bring up, you guys, because there are formulas for the distance from your front rail to your back, from your notch to your bead, so to that if you want to bring the gun up or the point of impact up or down at given amount of yardage, you file a little bit off or you elevate or you take a little bit off. This piece of night vision rides about the center of the piece of night vision. What is it on? It's about four and three-quarter inches. I was going to say around four inches, but again, then I thought better to ask because it will vary from gun to gun. If you put it on a carry handle, you've got five and a half inches, maybe six inches from the center of the bore to the center of the gun sight. That's a good point to be made there. I can't tell you that at 25 or 30 yards, that if you're two inches low or four inches low, I would caution you and say back up to 50 and see where it falls. From there, you should be able to safely go to 100. Even with the adjustment from 50, moving back to 50 or doubling your range, I'm at 100 yards, you might be right on from a small adjustment again. What I was thinking about doing was just going to the 100 and see what it does where I've got it at now. As long as you've got a good backstop. Yeah, I've got that covered. Then I had another question. On the windage and elevation barrels, that little Phillips screw, do I loosen that to zero out the barrels on that? To adjust that? Yeah. That should just click. Well, it won't be zero though, correct? Or it doesn't make a difference. Now, zero is a relative thing in this device because when you start to move the over adjustment literally you're going to see the reticle move. So you can bring it back to center of the device but wherever it falls, see, I hate to say this out loud, but you know what you guys, whatever I put on the top of my AR50, Whatever I put up, be it a $59 Simpson, which I've told you about, that scope lived over 350 rounds. I think it died because I took it on and put it off so much. Well, I put a piece of night vision on there. I put another scope on there. I put another scope on there. Everything that I put on there I have to correct for about 15, maybe 11 to 14 minutes to the right. Everything. It's not minutes, it's just clicks. out to what, three minutes or three and a half minutes. But that's how everything is stacked up in that gun. From the barrel, the bore, to the cut on top of the receiver was bolted to, screwed down to the barrel. The receiver, you take your choice, you know, potatoes, tomatoes. I did that on purpose. Where the cuts are made in the top of the receiver for the rail to sit in, where the rail sits in versus the machine work on the top, and then stacking anything up above that. But I have to click in 11 to 15 clicks to the right on everything. So you might find that once it's bolted to the gun and once you've got a zero, it's going to probably be a little bit low from center in order to lift the barrel a little bit and give you that impact and aim coinciding at 100 yards. But you'll see that it might not be exactly on center either. One of the ways to cure that is you do that with a... I haven't seen anything that would be a big help at night as far as an external level on the gun. You guys, we're talking about well beyond a 100 yard shot. You should be able to recognize whether you're sitting on a hill that slants to your left or right. or at the crest of the hill or even when you are laying on a hill and your feet are actually higher than your head but you've set in such a way that A, that's where you have to be and you bring the gun. You should be able to recognize level with the gun. That's another point we haven't addressed in a group. You guys, that goes over to balance because ground is hardly ever level. You can't use, let me see, you can't use a fence rail, you can't use the wires that stretch crossed your shoulder to the horizon. You really can't even trust the buyers, can you? But again, I would say that if you're about four inches low of your point of aim, you're probably going to be about an inch. Now, call me up after you finish this. I'm going to say you're probably going to be about an inch to an inch and a quarter low at the target. If you don't change anything, then just go back to 100 yards. Call me up and let me know on that, okay? I could do that probably in about an hour or so because I got it out of the bench now I'm sitting looking at it. Okay cool and you've got my number. Just call us up tomorrow and put me on the spot. Don you were way off. I'm just curious right now. Yeah but if I had to call you up tomorrow to put you on the spot and tell you Don you were right on it could go that way too. It could. We'll see. What my confusion is is that I just got through, I got a Heinz-Olt Z24 that I just got through zeroing in and on it. Once I had it zeroed in, then you loosen the screws on the top to zero out the barrel because it separates the barrel from the... You can go from there and I'm thinking what you're saying is doesn't make any difference with the night vision once you've got it zeroed in you've got it zeroed in and you just leave it there. Another thing to do would be to zero your hundred yards. That has an interrupted post or crosshair doesn't it? It's thick and then it gets thin. Yes. Depending on how big your yards are, your back yard so to speak, if you zero your hundred yards at the top the bottom of the top of the skinny. You know where I'm going with that? Then I'm wondering where the crossbar would zero. That's 250, 290, 380. You see where I'm going with that? Then you wouldn't have to, you know, you'd have two zeros in the gun. Or use your intersection zero and then step back and step back until you find a zero at a given range for the top of the bottom post. I'm looking at the instruction book and it says the thin lines correspond to 1.25 yards at 100. Oh, that's a big amount of drop. Way, way out there. Are they the thickness of the lines? Well, the center lines are going to be skinny and as you move out away from the center the post and the horizontal will get fatter. Right, but they're not saying it's 1.25... No, it represents that distance from the intersection of the crosshairs to the top of the... Right. ...from the cross section to the either horizontal post. I wanted to toss in one interesting little thing that might cause people to think a little differently. Now, this isn't a real world good practical recommendation because you and I are not likely to be able to do it, but in theory, It's possible to sight in your scope with one shot. All you have to do is have a perfect rifle clamp. The gun, dead nuts, steady, yeah. That's right. You fire the shot and then you adjust the sight to point where it went and you're done. In theory. Yeah, it would be good to confirm that. Didn't take two. But you're right. You're right. That's good work. What I did today is I got one of those cartridges with the laser that goes inside and I put it in there and I held it, I put it in a vise and I lined up the crosshairs with the laser at the 30 yards and three shots I had at zero. I don't know if I just lucked out or I just went for it because I just sat and thought about it for a while. It worked out fine on that little Z24. Three shots and I got half inch groups on it. I'm going to do the same thing with that. I'm going to take it out to 100 and see what it does at 100 because I zeroed that right in. Right. The intention of the laser bore sight is that it's supposed to get you close initially. Well, it got me close. It sure did. And a reason that people might want to have those on hand is there may be circumstances where you can't get out to a range. You're sneaking around and every fourth neighbor is a rat and so on and so forth. You may not have the luxury of being able to go out someplace and sight things in. The laser boresight will get you started. It won't get you a perfect sight. You're not going to be able to drop targets at 400 yards that way. But you can at least mount a new scope and get more or less where you need to be without making any noise. On my Z24, what it said is if you zero at 30 meters. So that's what I did. I zeroed at 30 meters and I said that would be the same zero at 200 meters. That's the way it's set up. Well, that depends on, like Don said, the gap between the center bore of your barrel. Your sight line versus your bore line. Exactly. Because the longer that is, the loopier the trajectory that has two intersections. The best place to put your scope is right in line with your bore, but you can't do it. Well, good. The scope came mounted on the clock lamp for the 91 and it seemed to me that they already did the math on it because that's, you know, they had a picture of it with the scope mounted, the same thing, identical thing that I had. And they had all the formulas and it said zero to 30 and The reason I did that is because I was figuring I wouldn't be able to see that. I don't know how much of a spread I was going to get out of that little laser on that cartridge at 100 yards. It might be the size of a half dollar. Who knows? I went with the formula they had. Just to get it on paper, doing what I thought it was going to do at that range. Now, this is going to be the final test. I'm going to take it out now. I'll give you a call in about an hour, Don. I'll be here. The other reason I jumped up, not to specifically the monkey wrench dun, program, is to let people know that CDNN just sent out an email announcing that they have a number of different variations of .22LR in stock. That's the good news. The bad news is that it's about 10 cents around. So it's not going to be any sort of financial bargain, but at least that's one vendor that's announcing they have some inventory. I'll skip a question real quick. The gentlemen that just hung up mentioned how they had a cartridge. Let's explain what that is. Oh, that's a boresight. There's a number of different versions of laser boresights. But it's a think of it as a cartridge with a laser stuffed in it or an empty casing with a laser stuffed in it so that the laser shines down the tube of your barrel to object. Now there are a couple of different versions there, you know, you can you can get those that emulate a cartridge and You know some people like those but they're caliber specific You get one that's kind of .308 or one that's kind of .30-06 or whatever the case is. The other version slides into the muzzle. That one will be diameter specific, but it won't care whether it's sliding into a .30-30 or a .308 or a .30-06 or whatnot, or whether it's in a .223 or a .22-250 or what have you. The ones that slide into the muzzle They don't care about the diameter, they don't care about the shape of your chamber. And then you use the laser to get things lined up initially because you can see the dot through your optics and tweak your optics onto the dot so that you're more or less where you want to be and then you fine tune it. the thing to be aware of is that those things have actually gotten fairly cheap now and the quality is all over the board like everything else mostly come out of china someone were pretty good summer pretty bad the danger is that the laser is not quite lined up you could be getting you know you could be off a fair amount uh... the benefit of They usually come with different sleeves so that you can use one bore site with a few different calibers because it will come with a 22 sleeve and a 30 sleeve and so on. They are a useful tool and like any other tool, don't completely rely on any one tool, but every tool, if it's working properly, has some utility. and a laser looking at it with a piece of night vision you don't want to just bag it up and turn the laser on and walk in and for lunch and tea and crumpets and stuff because you'll burn that image onto the device you'll have a line there that just won't go away use a laser intermittently in front of your device yeah probably also depends on what you have downrange is a reflection but yeah and how far it is uh... also mentioned uh... There's always going to be a left or right problem on the horizon, the perfect level. I was just thinking an airplane. You got my drift on. Again, we're really complicating things. That would be cool. A laser with ever so slight amount of glow in the dark that's hooded, not a laser, I'm sorry, a level at the back of the gun or a level on the side, or I've been trying to talk to come into this. It might be on a couple of real high-end pieces right now. I haven't paid attention to the real high-end green screen, but there might be a device out there that when the device is level, a little dot appears in the screen. And I've been trying to talk them into that for years. It would require some precision, but it could certainly be done. And it wouldn't be able to be all that expensive. You can get that chip now in an aeronautic form for a few dollars. that'll keep your remote control helicopter or airplane flying straight and level. Well, your airplane doesn't have the precision that you're looking for for long-range rifle work. Bear in mind that the bench resters have been using levels for a long time. Of course, they put together these rifles that are monstrously big and heavy and terribly delicate and all this kind of good stuff. It's got stuff sticking out all over it. Right, but if you're out in the field like you were saying before and you don't have a venture, you just want a quick level, kind of a gyro. Not necessarily, it could be gravity based. You could simply have a... The basic concept is the same as any other bubble gyro or bubble level. You could have something that moves under gravity like that. If you put a ball bearing in oil, where the oil dampens the motion, it's halfway floating so it doesn't shoot around too badly. Right there you've got a not awful first crack at that sort of thing. 30-yard camp isn't real credit, it's ghetto camp. I guarantee you the first ones that the bench rusters put on their rifles came out of the hardware store and they took a hardware level and cut it apart and grabbed a little bow. Oh I got a level that's an inch and a quarter long and it's three sides. It's green plastic on the ends and the bottom and I glued that to the back of the that fits into the receiver of my AR. There you go. And even in real low light I've got a good clear on all sides save for the bottom and it wouldn't matter because lights not going to come to the bottom anyway there's metal there. I like that gun I like proving it a whole lot. Again you know the farther away you're going to shoot the more level needs to be imparted and perfect because we can get. But we can never use the horizon. We can't use almost anything that we see for a reference. Sometimes you'll go to a ... Here's one thing, you guys. If you're at a range ... I'm sorry? Maybe if you were shooting at a boat, you could. If you're a shore patrol, you're a shore perimeter, then you can use the horizon. Then you've got a fluid horizon, water. But again, sometimes we can't even see that definitely. Most of the time I think you can't. Yeah, these days. This goes at 100 yards, one degree is going to keep you. You're still going to be in the torso, no question about it. One degree can't either way. You might be on the edge of the torso. You're going to be on the torso, not on the edge. There's a formula for it. You can find it out, Google it on the Internet. That gun being leveled, no matter where you are, is going to help you hit your target. We haven't addressed that in way too long. As always, all of these things are magnified by displacement from the bore. The closer you can mount your optics to the bore, the better. Yeah. Provence, some people can't shoot that gun because they can't get their eye close enough to the... My head isn't pointed at the... target my head is pointed about 30 degrees down and my eye sees a little bit of the bridge of my nose as I look into the my eye gets into the cone of light. Have you ever used a reflective telescope one of those things that is six or eight inches in diameter it's got a mirror instead of a lens? Yes. If you've ever done that and you put your finger in front of it, you'll realize that, hey, you can still see even though your finger's in the way. Right. Because it's forming an image out of the overall area and you've only occluded part of the area. Yup. In theory, somebody might be able to make an optic system that actually is collinear with a bore. Nobody's ever done it and I'm not exactly sure how one might do it, but in theory one might. The basic physics of light that you've just mentioned are how you can have a dot and a piece of plastic in the center of a pvs4 lens. And when you look at the device, man the whole thing produces an image, there's no black dot in the center of the image of a pvs4, or rather did I say 7, I meant 4, a gun sight with almost a 4 inch lens, a piece of plastic in the center of the lens. Also, in theory, I suppose you might build optics that is, think of it as a video camera, you know, with optics, and put like three of them around the barrel and synthetically merge the images in theory. If you wanted to go in that direction, then even then you would not resolve the problem of can't. If the synthetic image that you created were really collinear with the boar, then can't would not be an issue. The reason can't is an issue is because you are offset from the bore. You are talking about twisting it right on the bore as if it were through the bore, nailed through the bore. Exactly. If you had two sets of optics on either side of a muzzle and somehow you managed to do software, they merged the two images together, in theory you could have a synthetic image that is straight up through the bore. even though they are physical character to either side. Now that would be really impressive technology for somebody to come up with, but in theory one could. They're really getting complicated now. Yeah, you know it's really impressive technologies when you see these guns on these airships that are controlled by the head booger, the goggles, the head booger, Well, yeah, because we've got a fire control computer that's calculating all of the time range. Oh, yeah. There's a big model of an Apache and the pilot salutes a big remote control model. It's like eight feet long. The pilot salutes, the gunner salutes. When the pilot turns his head, rather, when the gunner turns his head, the front, the chinteret turns with it. You can see it on the Internet someplace. Honest to gosh, I don't make this stuff up. Or you can spend 25 range for the fanciest gadget that is out there this year. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Ooh-rah. I can never deny that vision can be available in just a minute. 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