Live 365. Like I said, calm down, start to get focused. Oh, the closet monster lives! Oh yes, in fact, look at that one over there. Oh man, that guy looks like death warmed over, doesn't he? His eyes are starting to roll back. If you take the glasses off for a second, Tom, you notice something? He looked perfectly normal. Put the glasses on and keep them on because you never know what's coming up behind you. Let me check. Oh my god! Come on, he's trying to get hold of your throat! Okay, okay, okay, it's okay, I got it! I invented the internet! I invented the internet! Okay, you're safe now, Tom. We gotta get out of here. Let's go! I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent, although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. You pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given rite, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, is to still the land of the free. Sorry about that, I was from the last program. I forgot I had that flipped over, Dan. That's okay. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke. And I'm Don Beecher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, west, southwest, east, and North. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com. We are on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, and UltraNet Technologies East and West of the Mississippi along the Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network. From the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida from the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico headed Louisiana Mississippi, Texas Oklahoma Big chunk of Nebraska whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third the fifth the pit and our friends in the recall state of Colorado, waiting to left coast where the great state of Jefferson is one step closer to creating a mutually supported reality with as many as 16 counties by the time I had the sound of it. We'll see what happens both in Oregon and California, existing Soviet Socialist democracies, the SSTs, the communist states. Anyway, turning back to the east, we sweep across the plains, waiting for the Bundy Ranch and the Bundy deployment personnel while we do so. And, well, across the plains, over the Mississippi, too, the Smokies, where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, OK teams, and the mob, Bell Grammar Consortium, bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work a million petticoat junction operators, the ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well Don, I'll tell you what, it's been a perfect day today. Beautiful weather outside. What's it like up there in your neck of the woods? What's jumping off the wall? What is this day today? Well Mark, it is the sixth day of June, year of our Lord, 2014. Beautiful day here, slightly breezy. We're just about to touch 80 I think. I could get my handy dandy thermometer out, but it's over there. So I'm going to say we're just about to touch 80 and I am certain it is the sixth day. day of June, you know, June 6th, D-Day it was once. But we don't need to dwell on that too much other than, hey, have you studied that Omaha Beach at all? Just take a look at the general setup, the lay of the land and where the guns were. Preparation, because, well, I know they got bunker busters and all kinds of things today, but, you know, with the carpet bombing and the naval shelling, markets documented into history. Not one German soldier suffered a casualty during the bombing in preparation for the invasion along the coast, nor the naval gunfire. Preparation, you guys. Here comes another five-inch shell duck. No, goose. Duck or be in the right place, you know. It's kind of like sometimes you stick your head up and sometimes you don't. We've addressed that before, haven't we? of all the shelling and the bombing that went on in preparation along the coast. Now, I'm not talking about some accidental inland where everything that was directed at the coast brought about not a single German casualty. That's something to ponder on, not to mention again, look at Omaha, look at shield and sword and what was it, gold. Look at study Omaha Beach just for the lay, just the way the land is and the way the guns lay on the land. One might figure, here's a big hint, one might figure that you take those 88s and you turn them out to sea and you just start blasting at the ships before they unload the landing craft. And before the landing craft gets to shore and all the men start to pour out. But just take a look at where the guns were. Man oh man, there's a lot to be learned there. Amazingly enough, one of the things to remember is that there were so many different areas that needed to be controlled when you're looking at defending the Continental Shelf. And that particular location, like many, had been thought out for many, many years, not simply with regard to what was going on with the German defense, but actually going through to the Middle Ages. Anybody who knew how to defend the lay of the land or the real estate actually had studied or surveyed the effective invasions and or plans of the past. And it's argued that that's actually what happened is they looked at historical defenses. Calais was the logical invasion route. That's the thing we always hear that, well, you know, they would have to hit because of the distance. Shortest point from start to finish, guys. which means the shorter distance also would mean faster turnaround time to pour material in. So the Normandy site had both problems, advantages and disadvantages because of its choice, but the thing that made it work were a series of what were very expensive but Also, temporary solutions. Remember, we created a fake harbor, a false harbor, which eventually died because the ocean is very unforgiving. Everybody needs to understand that. Man makes really cool things. Mother Nature kind of enjoys them. No matter what it is. Ask anybody who works as a welder on oil rigs. Oil rigs are a fascinating machine. But oil rigs, and by the way, great job as far as pay goes, horrible job as far as safety goes. A couple of our friends listening worked down in the Gulf on the oil rigs. Though they didn't want to, originally in fact it was a choice, they worked as a welder and maintenance on the inland rigs. But the jobs there, the Mexicans are pushing all the Americans off and are getting the best jobs first. Gee, what a surprise. Screw America. Now, of course, the illegals don't pay any taxes, but you do. However, they don't really care. You see, they turn a blind eye to that one. But in the process, of course, now the only place where they are able to typically find jobs still is out on the rigs. And guys, nature, just simply erosion by itself eats the place apart. Just the nature of salt and slash, it's really not just salt water, it's mineral water. everything you ever put into the ocean is still there. It just gets consumed. You ever gone to a beach and really looked at what a beach is made of? Have you ever walked along the beach and gone, oh my god, a piece of beer bottle? You've heard of flesh eating bacteria. You know, they're steel eating bacteria. Yeah. And what's fascinating though is think about just going to a beach and like I just said, you look at that beer bottle, that piece of glass, and you look closer, you realize, man, that's not sharp at all. Wait a minute. What is that? Oh, that is a beer bottle. Yeah, it's a piece of beer bottle. And it's turning into something a lot softer and polished, isn't it, guys? And it doesn't take very long just on the edge of the ocean. Just think about that. And of course, the rolling seas, the weight. Here's the other thing you have to add to that. And by the way, saltwater, little denser still. Pine is a pound the world around. How many gallons do you see throwing around? You ever watch those movies showing those waves that are like skyscraper height? Have you ever thought about what kind of mass is in motion there? Tons. Yeah, I mean that's not, that's not, oh that's water! Yeah, yeah, that's like dropping from a hundred story building going, oh I aim for the pole! I aim for the river! I aim for the river! That would be better than hitting the cement, right? Yeah, well there's a little thing about mass there guys, okay? So, and not the least which is, there's no term, terminal velocity doesn't help. The tectonic effect, just the wave effect alone and what it moves. Well that of course is what slapping, beating, chewing, eating, like you said Don, consuming with even bacteria those man-made objects. And when Normandy, full circle when Normandy took place, they knew the moment that they put things in the water there that there was, it was a gamble and it was a limited, you know, limited liability corporation. There we go. It was an LLC there. That's perfect. That's not modern answer to that. What is it? It's an LLC. limited liability corporations, son. I can't guarantee anything about this other fact. I can drop it. I can put it in place. It'll be there. However long it works, it'll be there. Yeah, when it's gone, I got no guarantees on the rest of it. How's that sound? And as you know, a storm came up and did just exactly that. But for the time that it was there, it served. And that's one of the things about the battlefield we need to understand. See, I've tried to re-emphasize this. This is kind of works into the whole thing with the Bundy Ranch or with what we're talking about with the deployments. Initially, for any problems that took place, remember, that's the idea of macro motion. When the landings took place, the idea is get anything you can and work with it. Now the term, which a lot of people don't like, is called exploit your resources. Exploit your assets. In other words, whatever hits the ground, it has to run with the ball. But I don't have a quarterback. Congratulations, I guess that lineman's going to have to do. Right? Yep. See how that is? In other words, well we have a team and the team works this way. Well, the reality from the original plan to where you hit the ground and you're actually fighting and progressing in a fight, the world, those are two different worlds. There's the optimal condition and the few times when everything goes perfect, when everything goes without a hitch, when everybody gets to the other end of the goal line, is very rare, at least in the way that they planned. because there's another part here. The other team has their plans. And much like we talk about soccer, football, for everybody who's in the spheroid or sphere warship, you know, both sides have the winning plan, don't they Don? Oh, they both plan to win. Yeah, but everybody decides to change things up, don't they? So that's one of the things we need to remember. And again, the dynamic of the situation with this anniversary The idea is a combination of changing up objectives, changing and deceiving the enemy in the process, having to roll with the punches. Once you hit the ground, whatever was available on that beach, whatever is available on the battlefield, whatever is available at the point of contact, you as a militia commander of the same boat, what you have to get used to doing is lead follow as the old saying, or lead follow or get the hell out of the way. More important is make a decision. Make decisions and keep them moving. The debate later will be, well, did he do this right or do that right? Well, most of the problems we have with a lot of discussions there is, do you have a telepathy machine in your back pocket? No. Yeah, well, Fred should have done this. Well, from Fred's perspective, this is where when you're reading information on the battle, about a battlefield. First of all, and I've pointed this out, we have some excellent opportunities to understand this to a degree, but even when we do go to modern battlefields, or, you know, again, traditional battlefields in America, let's say that you go to Fredericksburg, or if you go to Gettysburg, are you seeing Gettysburg through the eye of the fighter in, you know, the Civil War? Even if you go to Gettysburg now, you can get a feel for the terrain, But are you seeing it as the men who fought it saw it? See, that's another reason you have to have a historical perspective attached to your brain when you go to see something. Now, Normandy is kind of interesting because like many technically national monuments, although again like Concord Bridge wasn't saved after the, during the American War for Independence, they needed a new bridge. So they chopped it up, they probably used it for buildings. I don't, they didn't burn it. Okay, I will say that. I guarantee that. They probably didn't even move it very far. In fact, technically the next bridge that was up was probably half of the bridge that was there. You know what I mean? Because, you know, guys, let me ask you something. Did you see any skill saws in those oil paintings right next to the D12 bulldozers? How did wood get cut back then? And Armstrong did everything. So the first rule is, if I had usable material rated by the individual doing the work who is the designer, I'd go, okay, I can use this, I can use this, we can use that. Disassemble everything here. You sort it out, figure out what's rotted, figure out what's useful. The stuff that's rotted will make Jim's barn out of. Oops! They didn't even throw that out, did they? No, they didn't. Why? Anything that was square cut, if it was not as, if we say it wasn't rated for the engineering purposes, it went on down the road and was used by somebody else. It did not get thrown away. Oh, we're gonna throw that over in the burning pile. You know what was in the burning pile? The roots. and the toppings if they couldn't use those for anything. Sure as hell not the logs or the beams or anything like that, like even a tree when it was taken down guys. See how that works? Because again, all of your time, everything you did cost time. And if man-hours were spent, then man-hours were managed. So going right back to the battlefield is the same way. You have to think the same way about husbanding your resources and how you will exploit what you do have. That exploiting is not a bad thing. That exploiting is the idea that even when you talk about sports, if all of a sudden a quarterback sees a hold on, what does he do? He runs through it. He exploits it. Exactly. So see how you have to be thinking on your feet the same way. This is why when you see these actions where, well, Fred Schmidlap's to blame. Well, at the moment that Fred Schmidlap might have been guiding his platoon at that very critical moment, he also was able to see things that you don't, which you read about, but you don't from his perspective. What did he see? What did he understand at that moment? He didn't have an eagle overhead. He didn't have a bird's-eye view. He had an image or a perspective which created a particular image in his mind of the chain of events. See, this is the toughest part which nobody wants to acknowledge. You know, a lot of people take hits. You know, we can go back to something that's another part of World War II. The admiral and general who were in charge of Pearl Harbor. Now, they in reality knew exactly what was going on. I do not doubt, I do not doubt that those flag officers knew that they were being betrayed. and did to the best of their ability what they could beyond their set up. Okay? They had to run with what they had because they were had by the system. And a lot of times when you see history, especially when you see the modern accounts and you usually see the armchair warriors yapping back and forth about certain things, some of the snide comments they make are both irrelevant, irreverent, and illogical. But they're acceptable because it's their way of selling the book, so to speak. That's another thing that has to be taken into consideration if you're going to be teaching people about how to command, how to make decisions. Again, there were mistakes that were made with the Bundy deployment from the get-go. There were things that could have been done better. There were other things that were exceptional. Everything just went the way it did. Looking at it progressively, there's a lot of time wasting that was done because of overlapping idiocy on the part of some people purely because again, reading too many books, watching too many movies and TV programs, and not applying themselves intelligently. However, hey, they were on the ground. They were pointing the right direction. Bad guys realize no matter who the hell it is, if they're there, they're in the way. So, math made up for mistakes. And that is kind of true even with the Normandy invasion, etc., etc., etc., any of these actions, guys. The proof was of course, well, even when they did hit the ground, here's what it comes down to, we'll point this out. They may not have much, but what little they have, they sure as hell know how to use. Considering the force strength available to the Germans on the ground, take a look at the timetable that was proposed and the real time chain of events that took place. Not only just Normandy, not only the landing, but in the weeks and oh wait a minute, hint hint hint, months that followed. Oh, oh, wait a minute. I mean, we didn't just land on the beach and all of a sudden we were in Berlin. Didn't quite work that way, did it? Oh no, if you think the landing was easy, try fighting your way inland. Yeah, exactly, the Bocage. The next step is they get on the ground and they know they're going to be fighting through the Bocage. a network or a grid of almost impenetrable, literally fairy tale shrubbery, you know, the evil wicked kind of fairy tale shrubbery. And it was done for a reason so that you couldn't get my cows or get onto my property and you would not mess with my farmland and I would not mess with yours. It goes all the way back to the middle ages again too guys. Think about it. But anyway, the important thing here is diversify. Be ready to fly on your feet. Be ready to function and again, make decisions. The important thing is don't freeze. Make decisions. And again, the most important thing is also to understand, are you there or were you there, you know, as far as the complaining part? Well, there are things that we can evaluate, progress, and see that some of these things just simply shouldn't have happened at all. logistics train issue or problems with support or specific failures that appear to be intentional with regard to administrative choices which change or alter the battlefield choices. Like you said, it's like Pearl Harbor being betrayed by the administration. It has nothing to do with the idea that, well, these guys didn't know what they were doing. No, they understood the field of battle that they were on. They understood the limitations of being in the twilight era. That's the problem you're in right now. We're in the twilight era, the between, the dagger war period to a degree. That is another thing that's why you got to get better at what you do. It very quickly changes to a cut and dry black and white event or situation that will escalate very, very quickly. From that point forward, you're in it. And then OJT is not the place to be figuring out how to do some of this stuff. Okay, that's for the ones coming in late. But for everybody else, are you up to speed? Anyway, being up to speed includes night vision technology. So we're gonna do this, Don, we're almost to the bottom of the hour. You have night vision available. We've been discussing certain equipment technologies that we can of course access from you. What do you have? What's been going on with regard to the equipment itself? And, again, repeat your number a couple times so people can ask more questions if they want to. Hey, my phone number is 2317968458. Goggles are gun sights. The phone number is 2317968458. We can talk about first generation gun sights or viewers. Be they monocular or binocular. The viewers are more prominent now with The green screen, predominantly, we have more of those left because the gun sites are going. That was the word I was looking for. I don't even know if there's another word like that one I said. At any rate, you guys, we could move up to a second generation gun site or a second generation viewer. That gun site right in your mailbox for, we need to gang up on me though, for $1,248. It took me a moment to remember that. I've got the dog barking at the door at any rate. The green screen in first generation is disappearing. It will be replaced by a white phosphor screen. White light on your face is not to your advantage. Particularly at night if someone else is looking for you with a piece of night vision. It will draw their attention rather quickly. My number is 231-796-84. 5'8 are we going to do a break at the bottom? I'm curious. We can do a break at the bottom here. I think Ed can take care of that. We are headed towards the bottom of the hour for everybody out there. It is Friday. It's Quartermaster Friday by the way. And if you're looking for technology resources, etc., we're going to give you some dates, points of contact, etc. here in a bit after the bottom. But again, improvise, adapt, overcome. We're going to break here Liberty right now This is the Intel report live it is I day hey that was cool. Who was that? That's a good question. Ed? The name of the band. Who was that we were listening to? Real quick. The name of the band is Avicia. I think it's a French band, actually. Surprisingly enough, even though they sound country western, sometimes they do a lot of techno music and other stuff too. Because it has kind of a demi-country beat, which also has the techno beat, which also has the techno sound to it. It was pretty cool. And of course, otherwise they probably do not, I can't say this is true, but typically it's like several bands. Remember Golden Earring guys. When you hear Radar Love, understand that was totally, phonetically sung. I mean that was their big hit. And when they first came out with it as a single, They didn't have a lick of understanding of language with regard to English. And it's like they couldn't really do interviews. That was one of the funny parts about it early on when they were originally, they took that hit to the top, let's put it that way. And so I would say, it's like, man, they sound really good. It's like, yes, they do. There's this one girl that, as I've played several times on the air that has done Southern Soldier Boy. She's from Seaton. Actually, the whole initial 54 seconds is you listening to her speaking. Then when you're done listening to her, all of a sudden she sounds like she's a golden voice from the south. Oh my goodness. Except for there's one little spot there where she goes, instead of is, because she kind of reads and it crossbars right in the mind. I know that happens. Instead, if you pay attention, there's one or two giveaways, but otherwise, if you play the music by itself, everybody just stops and listens. But they're like, wow, who is that? Well, it's your government, everybody, about these meatballs. That's what I thought. Anyway, again, guys, great music. It is a beautiful Friday, by the way. Still, what little cloud cover, we had little, frivbly clouds here and there. They're way to the south. Air is still again and we have blue skies heading into the weekend. We'll see how that works out. We might have a nice weekend. We've of course just dropped off some other signal communications gear. In fact, so much so there was barely enough room in the vehicle. for all the stuff we dropped off last night. So again, one of our other units is listening up today and plugged in with some major, in fact, let's put it this way, some of the stuff took two people to carry in terms of the transmitters and the power packs and amplifiers. So cool, dudes. Well, actually, we were up till, well, again, the wee hours in the morning, they had to do that. And Ken, fortunately, put us in a late run with everything else, but not by much. As it is, Don, again, your number for night vision. You're going to be available after a while and through the weekend. Hey, if you want to talk about goggles or gun sights, green screens or thermal, I've got thermal viewers and thermal gun sights too. You can reach me at 2317968458. Again, 23179658. Hey, I want to do this. We closed the morning hour with a question left that you don't have to answer it. It examples a number of things we've brought to the air over the years, though. And the question being, Mark, in your opinion, what was the best fighter aircraft of World War II? And of course, the question flies in the face of, are we talking both sides, or are we talking, say, American pilot? Across the board, the best, the best. Across the board. Well, the argument, and a lot of people have always debated, but the argument is actually the Focke-Wulf 190 was one of the most utility aircraft that was probably built. That sounds weird, but there's a toss-up there. Everybody goes, well, what about the Mustang? P-51 Mustang, get a leg in the sky. The P-51, like many other aircraft, had a lot of tooting problems. We did come up with some really hot dragsters. And it was a beautiful plane. And in fact, that plane still flew after World War II and probably saved our arse in Korea. Most people don't realize that. Were it not for those P-51s not being scrapped by MacArthur because he dragged his feet because he knew he was being... Oh, what's that term I used before World War II? Being betrayed. Yeah. General MacArthur, that's why he's hated by the Ringknockers. What was that small twin bark that they had? I was going to say the P-38 Lightning was one of the best thinking aircraft. I know mechanics who worked on them. The P-38 Lightning was one of the most feared aircraft. That's the factor that comes in. I mentioned remember when we closed. What is it that we have to calculate in here? When the devil-tailed demon showed up on the battlefield that's what the Germans called it the Germans would flee they literally the pilots would find excuses not to be in the air That's how wicked and how much you see the but the other half of this is firepower What can you do when you're not hindered by a prop? and you have a whole big snout to work with. All of those 50s in that cannon were in one stream like a hose. Yeah. And not only that, but you've got to remember if you pay attention there's a variance. By the time they were done it's like the B-25 or the B-26 by the end of the war. Attack variants were such that they literally mounted, like Don said, cannon and banks of guns around the fuselage. All pointed forward. So when you hit the trigger, one of my guys, a gentleman, he was a quartermaster by the time I met him after Vietnam. He was a mechanic on P-38s at the end of the war. Actually, he was operating at the end of Okinawa. But he fought through the whole of World War II. He was telling me he wrenched down 38s. He said even the Japanese, when they saw the pilots that acknowledged if they saw the P-38s up there instead of just the mono wings, even the Japanese pilots were like, oh, this is not a good day. And they would find ways to leave the airfield, leave the battlefield as quickly as they could. Again, break up in great confusion and run like hell. Now, there are those that would say it has to turn fast. It has to be agile. But you know turning fast will not defeat speed and this is what the lightning did in what were called energy management attacks. P-47s did this too with the turbo supercharger. They could gain tremendous altitude and dive through a flock, a formation of other planes before they could respond. Hopefully even better out of the sun. Now that emphasizes the speed thing. Now, we could talk some other fine points, like there was one guy who swore up and down that the Hawker Hurricane was the best fighter of the war. But you know what? That's what he flew. Well, one of the things about the P-38 is, is even acknowledged by B-17 crews, not the guys who are flying the P-38s. Remember that, you know, if we look at performance, and again, what does it do for you? It is interesting to note that for the most part, while certainly they still took casualties when they were escorted by P-38s, the ambition to stick around wasn't there. Exactly. Now, the moment that... 450 miles an hour with a bank of 50s marked? My God, that's the 30. And what's done... Yeah, and up to... Well, now here we go, you guys. This was across the board, wasn't it? What's fascinating is as soon as they withdrew the P-38s because of course they had a new bird in town, the P-47 and the early P-51 Mustangs. Now the 47 overlapped and then the 51 became the dominant. They did offer greater range to a degree, but that depended upon again the mission, the P-38s. were extended just like all the other aircraft were eventually. With external tanks. Yeah, with external tanks. Everybody had them. They even proposed and built externals for the B-17 which were never really embraced by anybody because they were already enough of a flying lighter. You don't really want to be... don't add any more Zippo fluid than you have to. Think about those engines guys, those weren't diesels. Those were high octane aviation engines. Now, the thing is that the bomber crews, not the P-38 pilots bragging, because everybody says, well, they brag. Fred brags. The P-51 pilots brag. Everybody brags. Well, how about the guys who are being protected by them? Now, the B-17 crews in their evaluations acknowledged that the moment that the Germans realized that the P-38 wasn't there, actual engagements and attacks doubled if not tripled. Right. Now it wasn't just because the Germans had more planes to put in the air, it's the idea that now the Germans they felt comfortable with fighting that mono-wing, that mono-engine, and in fact they were willing to mix it up. Which is interesting because, well they could have mixed it up with a P-38, yeah they could. With what were called devastating end results. Again, that mystique, see that gets into something, now here let's go to the other theater, the zero. The psychology. The zero at the beginning of the war was the dominant aircraft in the Pacific, hands down. It's psychology, the psychology of the aircraft, the dominance mentally, and how that has to be overcome. by people you gotta remember that even back home the discussion was that you know on everybody that would talk about it and even when we get in our propaganda film will zero the zero so there's a mistake that we actually created as much as anything that didn't really help the cause. Contrary to what they, you know, oh, he got the evil Japanese guy grimacing behind the gun sight and gunning down our boys. But it's the fact that, you know, the numbers spoke for themselves as people found out more firsthand from the men who were coming back from the war. In the beginning, the Zero had like a 12 to 1 kill ratio. Yeah. But if Saburo Saky described amazement when he flew against Port Moresby, in the New Guinea area in their march toward Australia, the Japanese expanding across the Pacific, that the Allies would put up even P-36 Brewster Buffaloes and the Tomahawk, the P-40 Warhawk, Tomahawk, Kitty Hawk series, you know, the Flying Tiger airplane, against the Zero. He was amazed that these people would ride these mounts into battle, so to speak, knowing that they were on losing horses. that's how superior the zero was. That's what that amounts to, yeah. And the Brewster Buffalo was again... It was a piton. The Brewster Buffalo from Level Flight would not even do a loop at full power, at full speed, would not even loop. It was designed as a slugfest aircraft. The idea was it was supposed to be punching, punching. And by the way, let's not forget, the Japanese made copies of all of these aircraft, even before the war. Oh, the buffalo, one might say, was the quad. That's what Saki flew first in China, a fixed landing gear open cockpit very similar to the Brewster Buffalo. And in fact those planes were never retired from the Japanese service. They were just like in every theater. They were relegated to other areas where there were less sophisticated or equivalence on the other side that were no better nor any worse. See that's one of the things about... Go ahead. That 38 was a sexy, you know, one hell of a sexy airplane that you got to admit. down just sitting on the ground. You're looking at him. You gotta admit Howard Hughes, know what he was doing? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Locky. Well think about it, he was in the girls guys. The girls love this playman. It looks awkward from some angles but you turn that plane to the side and look at the profile. It looks like it would cut through the air with minimal resistance and it is. That's the lean design. You want to hear my answer to this question? Yeah, what is it? My answer to this question, and it also invokes that thought that you've heard a number of times that the next war won't be fought like the last war. The best fighter, bar none, of World War II was the ME 262. Yeah, I'm going to get it right. It was the German jet fighter, first jet fighter fielded in combat. If it had been there earlier, we would never have gotten there. You're right. If they'd have fielded in numbers just one year earlier, the same numbers... We'd have never moved the bomber formations in like that. They tore through bomber formations. They had four 20mm cannon mounted in the same array like the P-38. Four 20mm cannon right in front of the pilot. He looked over his guns. There was no converging cone of fire in front of him. It was all where he put it. They would saw the P-17s out of the air. Well, the air-cobra had some advantages but disadvantages. They couldn't stay up too long though. No, that was the problem. The B-39 air-cobra, I always liked the P-39 for its lines. It was a pretty airplane, yes. The big advantage that it had was its firepower again. The main memory... Yeah, the primary, where the engine's located is midship, which changes dramatically the center of mass. See, that's another thing to remember with the way they built the aircraft. The logic was, before World War II, and by the way, P-39 was not the only airplane where they did this, if you go to the pre-World War II kickstart, you know, the jump off, the big game, you go to the Spanish Civil War. And if you go to the Spanish Civil War, you'll find that every variant on aircraft that was ever made from the probably the 20s to the beginning of the war was in the Spanish Civil War and That's where a lot of these unique ideas were brought forward the biggest thing about the the air Cobra is the fact that they based everything kind of like the a 10 warthog We've got a gun we want to put it in the air and we'll build we'll build the whole plane around the gun and That's basically what they did with the main cannon that was on the air Cobra So the logic was, like Don was saying, the argument would be that we gave them a whole big tooth there in the front and a lot of additional fire power in the wings. Because we've got to remember that both the P-38s and any of these planes also have hard points along the whole of the wings. and all kinds of solutions and ideas were brought forward because of that. Where the Air Cobra really shined was not as a fighter aircraft, although it fought as a fighter aircraft, but it became a dominant ground attack plane. Yes. A very successful ground attack plane. Most people wouldn't believe it, but almost at sea level it could handle as well as a zero, but you put 5,000 feet above the deck and the zero would out handle it. Right. When you put to 10,000 feet, the zero would outrun it. because it only had a supercharger, not a turbocharger also. Yeah. But, Don, the way that ME would work, it would fly up above the B-17 engine and then point those down and then take them out on the way down. But the ME couldn't go back up. It had to land. It really had a lousy fuel. It was like, it was like, before even... Okay, but remember, it was a, it would, that would have been changed progressively. One of the things that happens is the factors of the ME 262 are end war production with high tech introduction in terms of tooling. They settle a lot of problems under impossible conditions, which is really the most fascinating thing about the design. The lifespan of the engine itself was very low, remember, because of ceramic turbines, the all nine yards. They didn't have the metallurgy, so they found other solutions to make it work. The Germans were geniuses. The Germans were unbelievable. That's why I was laughing. Everybody goes, they were helping in that. Yeah, really. Well, you know, certain toys and certain technology brought in. I lost an uncle, a great uncle. My mom, in fact, I've talked about this before. My mom, he was with the 8th Air Force. My mom built the guns around his plane. And he wrote home, he said, guess whose guns are on our B-17? And he goes, because back in the day when they built the guns, guys, When you came into the plant, this was at the Kelsey Hayes plant on Z-Broad and you're on River Drive. It used to be a Chrysler plant later on. Well, they built Brownings there and what they did is when you were an inspector, when you did final inspection, they gave you a stamp set that had your initials and everybody knew who that was. And so when you certified the gun for final assembly and when you tested it, you stamped it. Well, when they went in, like you said, P-38s were the, well, that and Spitfires, they had American Spitfires. Most people don't realize that. We didn't have enough planes to go around when we got into Germany or into England. But those were progressively replaced with P-38s and other aircraft that were available. There's an overlapping wave of fighter support. Basically, what took them down was the age of the jet fighter when the first of the jets came in and the Focke-Wulfs supported the jets. See, that's the other part about this. There are some aircraft that are just workhorses, that are lunkers. They may not be in the Focke-Wulfs. How about that hurricane? Murder on Doroners and ME-1-10s and Stukas just caught them up. But it didn't stand a chance against the 109. Yeah. There are layers of potential. And that's the other thing where you try to find one thing and say, it could do all. Well, if it could do all well, but it's not great in any subject matter, and it can survive in its variances progressively through an action of conflict, then that speaks volumes for the design. It's not just because they had to suffer with it. It had advantages that simply, because again, you also want to commit to a design, let's also bring something else up here. We lost a lot of those planes, we talk about two things problems because nobody had ever flown the design before en masse. Oh hey, you know how the first B-17, when it crashed, one of the prototypes, Congress was ready to scrub the whole thing. Yeah. Until the investigation said that they took off with the controls locked. Yeah, well, that's not conducive to staying in the air once you're there. Yeah, exactly. But this is like every aircraft we're talking about, the P-38 had early development issues, that's always the term they use. Well, let's be honest about it. Who flew it? Before the plane existed, nobody had any hours on the design. The men that are flying it, the first crews that go into any aircraft, are the people that perfect the standards that are all in the manuals. And again, after World War II, a lot of those horses, like Jan Dallin saying, looks like a big horse race, those heavy horsepower aircraft were there in force available and many variants, even the British variants, were still available into the 70s because of the massive fleet that was built and the fact that many of those aircraft, well, they were obviously viable. Let's get into the Falklands War. I'll remind everybody guys, the Falklands War is where two, not superpowers, but two great powers wanted each other. Don't ever laugh at Argentina. They had everything that England had, and England had to come all the way down the Atlantic to go fight in the Maldives slash the Falklands. Now for everybody yapping about the modern age, understand that the Argentinian army and navy flew prop-driven attacks through the whole of the conflict and got in and got out over and over again flying all of the aircraft that we're talking about think about that now we gotta remember that the uh... a fours and uh... a five zero in the hands of the argentine skyraiders the out of the brits had uh... and and plus they had both they had still had uh... uh... b twenty sixes and A-26s in service, they had in fact a whole pile of different World War II twin engine, prop driven, attack aircraft. Huh? Well, after World War II, we outfitted the whole of the South American militaries as part of the, oh, that's right, that United Nations Agreement. In fact, most all of those countries, every one of them got A-carrier. Every country in South America got an Essex or a British service carrier as part of their Navy and they're still running them today and nobody talks about that. I was just going to jump in and say that. In fact, a lot of our Mustangs are still in service down there with the Brazilian government as a majority collected them up and they're using them for their air patrols. Ground air attack and again still... Well, the thing is though, here's all Jog and everybody's memory, but you don't see them replaying it because they always try to do the rah-rah about the jet age. They always do this. Back when this was going on, the argument by the Army when the A-10 was being brought in, they were talking about bringing the A-10 into service, guys. You know, Cessna designed a prop-driven plane that was an 11-piece body made out of Kevlar that had no thermal signature for any kind of IR tracking. Which is the lion's share of how a lot of air defense is being done even today particular against jet we could have seven and a half we could have had seven and a half of these Cessna ground attack planes and Each one of the Cessna's could carry the same firepower as the a-10 Do you know what the argument was? There's no place in the US Air Force for a prop driven aircraft. And now what are we yapping about? What did we just do? We had to buy a similar design from South America because we're not going to build it in the US but we're going to buy prop driven aircraft again. In that classic example, we had an American company, and by the way, that plane was kick butt. I got a chance to see the prototypes, along with the A-10s, back in 1975. 75, 76, all that stuff was coming into play. And the plane was flawless. Basically what they did is it was a P-51 reinvention. It had all the lessons they learned from the progressive development of the P-51 combined with the ground attack perfection, coin attack, was all incorporated into the design. It would have kept Cessna at the top of the heap. An American company? Yeah, an American company, we couldn't do that. See so and again the a10 that's great aircraft by the way the the assessment design had all of the had the option for either being a man-stick aircraft and sticking with just with that for an export model and They had the ability to adapt all of the fly-by-wire technology to the same plane now a drone the other thing the prop driven plane had about six times the staying power of the A-10 on site. Oh yeah, just hanging out over the battlefield can be a real handy thing for the boys on the ground. Especially if you're a pilot trying to escape or if you're somebody trying to stay alive. Because you're in trouble and you're surrounded if I can if I can call in yep They're coming for us again And I can call in a plane and I know that planes gonna be there and when he starts to run low on fuel And he's sitting there in idle I can run another set of aircraft in and they can be on standby He can be there and expend his ordinance at pick and choose instead of running and dump everything and leave Yep, another thing to think about here is the jet age and this is where we I know we're talking with this you know people perspective As I pointed out, the F-117 and the B-2 bomber could easily be engaged by the later turboprop and prop driven piston aircraft from World War II. They couldn't be outrun. Yeah. And nobody wants to acknowledge that, but the bottom line is they're counting on the idea that as long as everybody commits to the same technology, and as long as everybody is playing with the same electronics and doesn't turn on the right light bulb, that, well, you're not going to see us and you can't do anything about us, so we don't have to be as fast. Well, I hate to tell you. And that's why, again, there's a whole lot of other low-tech aircraft that are still in service. Where's the F-117 fleet now? What happened? See they're not really in survey might recall. There was that little announcement that they started parking them Now why did they start parking them, but they're sophisticated. They're the cats meow No other plane will need to be in the air ever again It's the only it's the solution every every new plane is always that by the way Is the next best thing says lies go out bread and then ain't nothing like it and it'll be the end of air wars and we'll all be done Yeah, now again back to the... Go ahead. What a waste of money that was. Well, the thing is, it was again, it was under the logic that you can get everybody on the same page. But what happens if everybody keeps their old junk? See, what defeated it was the old junk. And I keep repeating this to people. Guys, they're hoping that they can get you to buy their junk and get to the new junk so that all of their new junk matches. Theirs and yours. And you're all supposed to be baffled by the wonder tech. But then you find out, well, it's all man-made, and if you look at the problem intelligently, there's always a simple solution to destroy what's being made in an over-complicated way. Just that simple. I hear the music, we're going to the top! We'll be back in a little bit, guys. Don, you got to take off? Yes, I do, Mark. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Ooh, raw. King was last to beat him down hard. Don, give out your number for night vision twice. Please enclose us for the hour. Hey, that number is 2317968458. Again, 2317968458. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless America. Willie measures will be pretty smart.