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You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay attacks you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. We pray to God, keep the torch of freedom bright, as I awoke he vanished and missed for once he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land. Once again, the state of Jefferson marches forward. We'll find out more about that in a minute. Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Wernke. And I'm Don Bechor. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, central, and east. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. We are on AM&FM microstations, CB base stations, and ultra-net technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida crossing the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. 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So they're doing their part using their magic pointy fingers and their working knowledge of civil defense alternate communications from 1957 through to actually 1974. and most critical because that was part of the preparedness and deep research programming that was done with signal communications after a nuclear exchange. All the research was done, the girls helped to make it happen. A lot of stuff that they don't want you to know about, we have all the documents and all the data to put it online. That's what's happening now. Bad guys may be tunnel rats and turning into the more locks, but we're going to do our part to make sure whatever we got left will work better than the average bear. And we're going to continue to prepare and do better. Don, it's been a perfect day here today. We didn't get any rain, guys. That doesn't mean we won't get rain tomorrow. We might. We might not. It's Michigan. We got lots of water around us. But today, perfect day. Blue sky with the sunset here coming up. What's it like in your neck of the woods, and what's the date today, sir? Mark, it is the fifth day of June, the year of our Lord 2014. It's that eve of the anniversary, 70 years thing, fifth day of June 2014 and the reference is 1944 and getting ready to attack Fortress Europe there. We don't have to do a whole lot of history lessons, but there's a lot to be learned about dinky little battles and great big battles. energy in right places and all kinds of things. Not just when you think about energy, well not just fuel, energy applied in the right places. There's a lot to be learned at any rate. They always say the next world be fought in a way different than the last one. I know we could talk about other things going on, but let's just sit here and speculate for a little while. Because, you know, when you go into your Kentucky Fried Chicken, it's not necessarily true that that person that's making your Kentucky Fried Chicken came from Kentucky. Now, I walk into this place, there's a Chinese restaurant in town, Mark, and they have very good Chinese food. But right there on the chalkboard it says, no exchange, no refund. If our food is not like other Chinese restaurant food, no exchange, no refund. I started talking to this guy. His name translates to Tiger in English. This is pretty cool. I started talking to this guy. I mentioned the sign and he said, yes, some people don't like how we fix food. It's the way I'd fix it in our province. Which is cool. It's understandable. It's like Kentucky Fried Chicken or Georgia or Florida or something like that anyway or Michigan. I told him, you know, it's like going into some people like Kentucky Fried Chicken and some people like Popeyes. So, you know, there's under it's still fried chicken, you guys, no matter what the name, you know, it's still the same thing. There is a point to this, though, because I'm talking with this guy and he I took him a movie and I took him a martial arts movie. He knew all about it. This movie was made in China. And this guy's a big star in China. I'm talking to this guy over, I've been talking with him for months and months now. We do other things than sit here at the radio all day long. But I'm talking with this guy and talking about here and talking about China. On occasion, you guys, maybe most of three years ago now, we brought a little remote control helicopter to the edge of the telephone here and started it up and asked, can you hear that? Then we started talking about drones and whatnot, more on a hands-on experience, more on talking about differences and talking about carrying cameras into the air. Over the year and over that last timeframe, Mark, we've talked about a couple of things that you've been able to see on the Internet. A glider you put it into a thermal. You can stay up a long time without power if you know what you're doing on particular days. Now necessarily coming home might not be good unless you've still got almost all of your battery saved for the amount that took you to get to altitude to a thermal. So gliders can be pretty neat in that sense. You can stay in the air a long time if you are skilled. Now. There was a glider that we saw on the internet a while back you guys that was About four and a half feet wingspan and we talked about this at that time pointed it out to you In fact in that time frame you could go to just google Ali Mao I know it's a Chinese guy Ali Mao and he'll show you that plane flying But it had telemetry that would bring back an image from a camera pointing forward in the airplane to end with about 45 or 55 degrees of field of view. Concentrating mostly when we're like walking, we pay attention to our peripherals, but we're looking within that narrow frame, literally, if we're walking briskly, we're paying attention mostly to where we're going. Now that's a real handy view because you can see things on the ground not too far away. You can see objects in the air that you would avoid. It makes it you can land this by what they call first-person viewing. You can fly it literally with a television screen on the controller or if you are so inclined and not exactly subject to claustrophobia, you can fly this device and others of the same like or ilk with a pair of goggles. Now there was the commercial piece that came here and it had a camera on it. You could fly it about a thousand feet away. radio controlled devices will, you can control them farther away than you can see them, but if you can't see them, you cannot know, well I just turned it 180 degrees, it should be flying back by now, but you hear something off to the south, you know. When you are on board, you can kind of plot your way back, but when you are on board as far as with a camera, you can look at what's on the ground. We've talked about this a number of times. We also talked in that same timeframe about a device that was well, it had a little backpack. It almost looked like a something the size of a, you know, 12 volt automotive battery, big scale like a 72 or 78. They do battery sizes by numbers, but right up in there, it might not have been that heavy, but it had a big old antenna, you know, about six foot antenna. And that device allowed control of the same aircraft and telemetry back with the onboard camera to five miles. Now, when you can get comfortable enough flying something, it's almost like you're a mechanical pilot on board. When your eyes are on board, maybe not your body, and you can fly that five miles away, that same device has a home button on the controller that you push and it will fly itself back to the basic area where it took off, where it was launched from. Actically, that would be to a great advantage to someone on the ground if we don't have a whole lot of other eyes in the air. Built up to this thought line and going back to my buddy at the Chinese restaurant, you know, I just mentioned little helicopters and he says there's not a boy in China who doesn't have a little helicopter. Now we can say that well, it's much like televisions. You guys who are buying the helicopters here in America, even if you're buying a little three channel infrared for flying around in the house for like $30. You know how much that was made for in China? And they pay like $1.80 for it in China. We are subsidizing the remote control basics of almost every Chinese boy right now. I just thought I'd bring that to everybody's attention you guys. We've done some goofy things over the years. Like in the morning we did a drawing for a couple of little four channel. The difference being a four channel little helicopter will fly sideways or off at an angle, not necessarily where the nose is pointed, like a real helicopter. We did a drawing for a couple of those a year and a half ago in the middle of the late winter or something. But we've pointed these things out to you over the years. It might come a time, even if you can't read Chinese, and you come across a small area, it might look like a truck or anything, and there might be four or six people in it, and they might be flying 10 or 20 remote-controlled vehicles, or even a bigger number, based out of that truck. And it's one of those things, if you can't use it, you might as well destroy it rather than leave it for the enemy. But if you can use it, if you have the basic ability, well, gee, the controls might be different. But if you sit and study the controls for a while and while the device is in front of you, you can figure out all of the avionics are basically the same. If the rotor goes this way, the aircraft goes that way. If the rotor goes this way, the aircraft goes that way. All of the avionics are the same. If you can study the controller for a little while and you have the basics, you know, This service is provided by pre-conferencing.accesscodeaccepted. There are four participants in this conference. This conference is being recorded. Please announce yourselves. The Sager, this is something I've talked about many times in the past, the Sager missile was the Communist Chinese, or forgive me, first the Russian, and then copied by the Chinese answer to the TOW missile. You don't want to know what the difference was? The Sager could be bought by the hundreds for the price of one TOW. Yeah, now it's a wire guided joystick video game player toy is what it come down to it was a briefcase anti-tank missile wire guided However, you know the arguments. Well, that's it's not as sophisticated as the as the total missile system well so true but when everybody can walk into combat with a a.k. over their shoulder any briefcase with a couple of missiles in it and a controller and a little i periscope and you can launch the things from everywhere and kill tank yeah and kill tanks dead dead dead well that has a bit of an effect on the battlefield kids And the same is true with regard to any operations. Yes, you do have phalanx. Now you've got even other programs they're yapping about. Remember that rail guns, and I wanted to touch on this so I kind of tied this in. Saturation like this, where you have multiple operators. We can do the same thing to the bad guys. I've tried to explain this to everybody over and over again. All of you should be buying, and the respective parts of the country start collecting RC technology for aircraft. You can buy RC aircraft with 4 foot, 5 foot, 6 foot, hell almost 7 foot wingspans right now guys. And if you go the lower end but still the bigger format, many of these look just like conventional prop driven and I'm not talking antique and you don't want something high end. You want to look at something that is more probable to be privately owned. P-51 Mustangs aren't grown off trees anymore. But other trainer aircraft are. And the 50s to 60s trainer aircraft that have very much a military silhouette were used to develop pilots' skills towards jet. To get them prop time, to get them behind the seat. Also because again the sky raider and a lot of other aircraft were still in service so they needed to get something under their seat that would give them performance comparable to. Well guess what? Those types of silhouettes are out there. Now, psychologically, to get two or three of those moving through an area, if nothing else, imagine more sophisticated with cruise missile type motors. Now, the reason I bring it up, does everybody know where all the cruise missile jet motors were made that our cruise missiles use? Well, it's right here in Michigan, kids. In fact, the BD-5, a little mini jet, the Coors jet, most people remember it as Coors, that's why we say Coors first, the little BD-5 bucket jets that they made, which we've been collecting. The motors that are on the BD-5s are the motors that were on all the crew's missile variants. For all practical purposes, it's the same stinking thing, but with a brain instead of a computer on board, guys. Think about that. Now if you take something like that with the same kind of thrust potential utilizing modern technology and simplify it but give it as much energy as possible, remember if it's a mechanical device, G-forces are irrelevant. So, hyperspeed is a positive thing. The one interesting thing about fly-by-wire tech or wireless tech is remember that it's like a kamikaze but nobody has to commit suicide. Yeah, do it again and again. Yeah, I could do that more. Launch another one, launch another one, launch another one, launch another one, launch another one, round out you die, round out you die. Again, you're going to wonder why admirals are kind of, you know, have this thought in the front of their mind. And for a minimal cost in performance time and in turnaround time maximum end result. Somebody taking a consideration there. That's one of the issues that they don't really want to discuss for obvious reasons. So anyway, one of the other things that Oh, did we lose Mark? No, we're right here. I just have one of the kitty cats that came into the house and he just decided he'd make lots of noise. He's not being mean. Actually, our station cat is Ed's cat, probably looking for Ed still. Now granted, we know about air burst that would be used to defend a fleet or even atomic weapons that would be used to defend a fleet. That's been put on the table. Admirals don't shy away from that. They don't want to lose aircraft carriers. Well, one of the things that, the next step, because as soon as you say you talk about the Fae-Lanc system, everybody goes, well, we've got to do it now, we've got rail guns, for instance. Well, even the, even weapons systems themselves, conventional, as we've talked for many years, guys, discarding SABO, utilizing a very straightforward system, we could build off the shelf a weapon that could reach 4,500 feet per second easily. In fact, many of your shoulder-fired weapons could achieve that performance. with a solid shot dart made out of steel carbide whatever it is we got on hand carbon steel stainless steel it would be very hot when it got to the target but it's time to target would be so short as to be virtually like a laser consider the factors of just firing a conventional 30-06 and now almost doubling the velocities we pressed 5,000 feet per second Think about that. Off-standard shoulder guns and the more sophisticated the weapon, the more likely we can go farther. We can press the envelope a little farther. At a given point, there are positive and negative issues. But if you're looking at saturation, then you can reduce the velocity anyway and go with lots more chunks of steel flying through the air, shredding whatever it is that's coming at you. But it's still the idea. You only have so much and it takes so long to engage and re-engage and re-engage a target. And if you saturate attack any target, I don't care what it is, like we've talked about, all of you as infantry, 120 men picking one target and saying that one's going to be shot. It generally works. Generally someone's going to probably get lucky, not a lucky shot, but it's more likely that a few shots will make their mark. But it's the idea that that saturation and interlocking wire, that cross wire, that mesh, is going to neutralize that target. And in many ways, again, the problem though is that again, saturation can defeat it in the other direction when it comes to defense. Now, before we went further, I just want to finish with the rail guns. We can build rail guns. Does everybody understand that? 25 years ago, we had kits. We actually, we can build rail guns out of plywood, guys. That will do exactly what a rail gun's supposed to do. But, remember this, it was kind of like a rail gun muzzleloader. When you use it, it's only good once and you've got to go build another one. However, back in the day when we were talking about it, and we did this in school, we did this in college, or we did this even in high school by the way, whale guns in their basic form made in that fashion We weren't thinking of trying to make it as a throwaway disposable weapon system. We were thinking that, man, we've got to build this so it'll last. If we built it stronger and heavier and bigger and bulkier, we could just keep firing with it. Well, if we think the other way around, rail guns could, of course, then from the defense and also for saturation attack, be a solution because, again, time to target, zero. Almost, at the moment that you fire, you're on target. So in other words, there's no lead time, there's no variance in trying to determine options. Instant. It'd be instantaneous. And it's another consideration when it comes to saturation against armor. Like I was saying, the Sager is the same idea. A bunch of guys could stand out there, and literally this did happen during the 73 war, they could fire virtually dozens, if not dozens and hundreds, if not hundreds, thousands all at once. And remember that it wasn't the only weapon there moving into the field. We've talked about the overlap with the RBG-7 and all these other weapon systems. Now the Sager could reach a thousand, then the Sager 2, 2000, the Sager 3, 3000. So 1,000, 2,000, and 3,000 yards respectively. Respectively, forgive me. That's a lot of firepower, kids. And not hard built. Now, take the RSC ID we've got. Just the idea that you do a Kamikaze run with something like that, and if it's self-psychologically, it would be a mine screw. Having something on board that goes boom in the night makes for an even messier world for the bad guys. Oh, yeah. Think about that one. So just take into consideration. Go ahead, callers. I think we have people in the background with input. Go ahead, please. Oh, that's just a... Oh, you're fluffy. Go ahead, fluffy. Yeah, I've still got a couple of boxes of that old antique round that they used to call the 36 Accelerator. Yes. That is precious munition. In fact, in Odd 6, that was a devastating idea that they made kind of fade back into the background. Sable is still out there, but they don't emphasize it for a reason because in long shots or intermediate shots, what do you have to find in the way of ballistics? Plus your time to target. Look at what it says on the box your velocities are. Four thousand plus. Yeah. Not only that, remember, if a little longer barrel, which you'll gain a little bit with a few more inches, but the longer the barrel, the better the performance with that Sabo. Just an idea. It ought to be Sabos available that we could lid our own. 55 grain Sierra Boat tail standard US military 223 bullet because that's what it's designed to take or any of the spits are solid. I wouldn't go with anything hollow point. I wouldn't go with anything soft point for obvious reasons. When you start pushing the envelope out of the hole, you're looking at the front end of the bullet opening up in flight. But we're going to break, Don. We're going to break right now, sir. We'll be right back and we're stacking up colors, so we'll continue to answer questions. How was others? We'll be right back. We all need to prepare ourselves. You might have the food, water, gold and silver, but ask yourself, are you truly prepared? That's why you need to visit MaineMilitary.com. MaineMilitary.com carries everything you need. Gas mask, fire starter kits, high capacity magazines, chemical suits, military surplus items and much more. You own a firearm. MaineMilitary.com has a large selection of pistols and rifles suited for your needs. Are your local stores sold out of ammunition? Call or visit them today for prices on hard to find ammo and bulk ammo orders. 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Patriot Broadcast from the trenches. WorldReport dot com. Live 365 in the Hallmark Network. For more information go to LibertyTreeRadio dot 4MT dot com. the revolution thank you for listening to liberty to radio dot four m g dot com one day with history close on the couldn't find the issue the night before the title not now complex filled his head cold in the state he felt shaky but he'd be our back on a mark intel reported is thursday and the sun setting but it's beautiful outside still medium temperature, air, and bright. So we'll see what it looks like tonight. We should have the moon up already. And setting, not really early, but we'll be setting around 3 o'clock, 2 to 3 o'clock guys. Third of the moon and illumination is medium, although we did get pretty dark the other day, just simply because of air moisture density. It happens every once in a while. Right now, It is moist outside, beautiful day, it's classic growing day. We're putting food in the ground even as we speak right now. Nancy's getting some more stuff into the garden and since I'm done with the program, I'm going to run out and put a whole other line of climbing beans in. I did all the framework and everything two days ago now. And I almost like today, the other days run together. Don, your number for night vision, before we go any farther, please, you have technology on the shelf. It's available. We need to talk to you about it, and if we want to do that, how can we get ahold of you? Hey, if you want to get ahold of me, my phone number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. Goggles or gun sights. Green screens or thermal. Got a piece of thermal right in your mailbox for $5 less than $1. $2,000. Just a couple years ago, that was, you just thought I was, what did he just say? Really, that's like an unheard of statement. My number is 231-796-8458. We've got a, well, a limited number of first generation gunsights, 308 capable. We can go to a second generation gun site, same performance parameters. It'll live on top of your M1, your F-N, your AR-10. Don't put it on your AR-50, please. It'll live on top of your AR-10. And the manufacturer will warranty it against... It's not going to fail from recoil. The manufacturer will warranty that for two years. My number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8484. I know we've got a couple of callers, but I want to run back to that, you guys. If you know what you're doing, if you've done it before, it matters not what the controller configuration is, unless it straps to the little Chinese guy's forehead and reads his mind, and then it can recognize the difference between your mind and his, and simply you can't control it. We're getting into science fiction there for certain, but it's fact that Any Chinese boy that's, you know, basically that their families can afford to give them toys for their birthday, they're getting a remote control of something and a lot of it goes in the air. So that has to, there has to be a key in that we have to pay attention to and we've brought this to your attention a number of times over the years. I don't want to beat that till it's a dead horse because I know we've got callers waiting. Thank you, Mark. Before we go any farther, we had several different voices there. I've got the answers to a couple of questions, but first, call us as well as we have there, please. Mark George from Texas. What do you got, George? Go ahead. You know we were talking about automated systems earlier today. I went to go rent a movie from one of these vending video machines, and guess what? They were talking that slow thing, and they couldn't get anything right that I wanted. type of thing talking slow type of thing no i did not want lunch meat no i did not beat my feet no i am not in heat no no and no okay thank you and i think i'll go somewhere else well i could just see i could just see some redneck at a fast food place saying um when the automated machine says would you like a kids meal for your kids And you say, sir, I'm all Obama's self. And you can hear the machine saying, you want to give all your money to the Obama Presidential Library. Because they hear all in Obama. That's all the machine can pick up. I can see that. Nor your mama sounds like Obama, yes. OK, I'll tell you what. Anything else, church? Because we had a couple more callers that had other questions. We were talking about weapon systems here. Another thing I was reading, the word you brought up back in American Peril, Fincin, now they're sticking Fincin on people who decide to open up foreign bank accounts. Right. Fincin was a diversified element, 53, originally then 56. Federal agencies, it was a precursor to Homeland Security. Most people don't realize that. The first meeting took place in Chicago, Illinois. During that meeting even the Crips and the Bloods were invited for a series of special discussions, representatives from, and how that has to do with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, question mark. There were a whole lot of special discussions about Oh, that's right. Killing Americans and creating a big national police state and all kinds of other stuff that was right there with the same Shysters, the Clintonistas, as the Shysters that we have now. So, same bunch, different day. And FinCEN at the time, first they stated it didn't exist. In fact, that was crazy Patriot mythology. Well, remember before we can say anything in the Patriot movement, guys, we have to map it out, already have it in hand, and have it double-tapped with, you know, validation, verification. And if we aren't 99.9999999% right, Then why? We'll be attacked and ridiculed because while the press gets 99.99% wrong, why? They can do no wrong. So it's always entertaining to watch that which is why I laugh at the farcical BS, their up to where they're trying to deflect things now. Anyway, anything else? Now I'll let you move on to the callers. Okay, next caller, jump in there please. Go ahead, we only have a little bit of time guys. We had another voice. I had three voices that I heard there. I know we have Fluffy. Okay, well let's do it this way. While whoever might be listening is still trying to unmute, get your pen and paper ready. Get your pen and paper ready. Get your pen and paper ready. JND components 75 East 350 North Orem Utah 84057. That's JND components. 75 East 350 North Orem, O-R-E-M, Orem, Utah 84057. These are the guys that make the SABOs gentlemen. If you also want all the loading data, they have the software, a complete scale and process in place. that allows you to pull down the information for any .30 caliber weapon you want to load with a SABO to at least give you the base formulas. Now remember you can tweak up and down but read the information on research that's been done because we don't want to destroy any of our more delicate weapons. Some weapons are stronger than others. Do the research before you go any farther. Now the website www.jdcomponents.com com that's w w w dot j d components dot com that's w w w dot j d components dot com and i just put that in the chat room so it should be there we'll see if it works uh... also the phone numbers eight zero one two two five seven zero zero seven that's eight zero one two two five 7-0-0-7, that's 8-0-1, 2-2-5, 7-0-0-7. You'll be talking to either John or Doug, and I believe Joyce also answers the phone. So one of the three will be the person you talk to. And they do have Sables, they also have them in colors, which is a very good idea because guys, if you load up different specs for different missions, then having colors helps to validate what you're loading. Okay, just something to think about there. If you have an oversized hot load because it will work with a certain, say, custom single-shot block gun that you come up with, that's just super strong because it simply is very, it takes a long time to reload. It's a striker-fired sealed chamber system. If you have something like that that you build, then you can start driving the energy up. You don't have any locking cams per se. Use a threaded or a turn bolt system, but it literally is nothing more than a beefed up cap and lock that ensures that the chamber is totally reinforced and the only point of entry is the firing pin track. There doesn't even need to be necessarily an extractor with something like that. Now that sounds crude, but it's supposed to be. The idea is minimize working parts and possible areas that may create questionable engineering flaws. Any time you cut in a piece of metal when you've made a receiver, that particular modification can in fact enhance or create specific flaws with old dress writers. Yeah, exactly. Now, like when you're cutting diamonds or when you're cutting things, guys, you chip in a certain way, you get a certain cut. You get a certain break. Anyway, that's J and D components. That's J and D as in N, like Martha and Fred, J and D components. 75 East 350 North. Orem, Utah, 84057. There's the SABOS for you. I promised I'd try to find it, and I had it right here. I knew I'd just seen it. Strangely enough, because somebody else has been asking about picking up more SABOS for another project. There are barrels that have been pretty cheap. I've been mentioning there are 30 caliber barrels, guys. Now, 30 caliber barrels combined with a breech lock system or a cam system that is very, very simple means you can load something up to an impressive velocity and work with a little bit. One of the cautions would fit when you start to look at the formulas load back by 10 or 15% and work up to. The other thing there is if you load back 10% and you get a real good group and you load up and your groups get bigger, well you can go back to that 10% because that's generally going to be your sweet spot. Now, you're doing all of this with a chronograph, aren't you? Just a thought. I would pay attention to and try to gain consistency with the feet per second, it's going to keep your groups in a dinky area way down range. I would again, when we look at this, everything that's not burned when it leaves the barrel is wasted. When you're looking at powders like this, there's no point in burning. Even at these velocities, there's no point in burning beyond the muzzle. So again, another 10% to 15% back on your initial load. You'd be surprised how much in the blink of an eye how much flame in some load leaves the muzzle of a gun. If you can see it in the daytime, you can be, that will be a flag waver at night. That will be something that will shut the guy's night vision off next to you for an instant, for certain. It'll come back on, but it'll be shut off for the instant of that muzzle blast. And do we have another caller? I heard backgrounds. We might have another caller there. Just to be safe. Ain't to hear about anything. Well, anybody being left out. Now, another reason I brought up the thing about the rail gun. I was actually sitting back and thinking, how many different plans do we have for rail guns back in the day? Guys, okay, do we have a caller? Let's double check. I don't want to just... Okay, now we're going to track here. Rail guns. plywood. The original rail guns were actually made as experimental laboratory designs using simple plywood. Fast to cut, easy to use with a jigsaw, a coping saw, a little bit of trimming with a file just to make it so there weren't no slivers. All of your magnets and your rail assemblies are screwed, bolted, and widgeted on board. Power supply provided and whack! Actually, it's like, what? I can't make the crack sound. The crack sound is the vacuum that is created by something traveling at how many thousand feet per second? Okay. And the second part of that cracking sound is the assembly collapsing on that vacuum line that was made by the dart traveling down the rail gun. One of the reasons I used to always talk about railcons being an interesting design, but a problem design is that when you fire, that vacuum draws air at a supersonic velocity. Or as long as the energy is that energy dart, it can be a laser, it can be a plane, or it can be a tungsten or solid steel projectile being shoved down range at a very very high velocity. Well as it passes through it's moving at such a speed that it consumes the air that's in front of it. It creates a void behind it. The air rushes to replace that. Well, when you're talking a projectile the size of your thumb being pushed down by that homemade rail gun that will be out six feet long about each of the triangular components of the rail that make up the magnet board that you created, each leg is about eight inches by eight inches by eight inches from the end. It looks like a triangle. And when you fire, well unfortunately all of that energy to suck all of that air back into place drags components with it. And for that reason, again, the biggest problem they had was the idea that, well, of course we could beat it up with other technology. And the thought was always that, well, the rail gun would have to make a tool that was rebuilt so it was reusable. Instead of the idea, why not think about a rail gun itself as a disposable cartridge? Like a big magazine. Yeah, like a big single shuttle. Or like a soldier fighter in an aircraft. Right, a throwaway air defense system or a throwaway anti-tank system. Now, John, everybody's memory is because we've covered this bad world. It's been years going on for seven years. You might recall that there was an incident. stopped all armor activity in Iraq. You'll notice they're also disappeared from the memory hole, so to speak. The M1 Abrams tank going on patrol with all the rest of the Thunder Lizards and somebody took a pot shot at one. The hit was from the right quadrant. moving on a lateral angle from the rear idler sprocket slash drive sprocket up into the arm, wide wall of the armor from an angle, which means remember we're cutting through more material to do this. Yes, instead, if you have a straight through the armor, head on an angle, head towards the driver's station, hold the armor internally, all in baffles, internally, one per beat, driver's speed, driver's speed, Think about that. Whatever it was, whatever it was, I will say some physician can turn it in to help me publicly. I think it was the subic-losing system, one of those things they actually, they got us actually, got us a big sleep, no, they took the scientific one and it happened. What happened? Then there was no discussion. Then there was no discussion. From the memory hole. Well, probably, the problem was that the other time was here. a specific and in fact many projectiles even solid are designed so that as they impact, they literally react to the process and they work like a plasma cutter. Now there are several variations. Some literally are even technically one-time arc welders. That's the best way to describe it. They're designed to burn through. But if you have enough velocity, you don't need to worry about some form of special technology working with a special warhead. The energy itself is provided by the calorie build up and by contact where then the plasma is created that becomes the jet that moves through. Well, whatever this was, it went through. If you look at an Abrams, take a look at the internal, for instance, the turret, lower turret chamber armor. Take a look at the baffles and additional armor that make up the area between the engine compartment and the turret compartment. Remember too that the armored boot slash seat that the driver sits in is nothing to sneeze at itself. And it's still the defined job of perforating the driver. Now how bad he was, I don't know, but I can pretty well figure it was probably a terminal hit for him. He may or may not have survived. It obviously blew out the left kidney, so you figure what something like that would do coming through as a molten piece of spalled, traveling however many thousand feet per second. Kidneys are higher in your body than you think. Yeah, so one of the things to, you know, the outbound wound is kind of like looking at aliens probably, you know what I mean? Although it would have been to the side more rather than a center chest popper. Anyway, that is an example of why it is there's no discussion about rail or hypervelocity ammunition, guys. With something traveling 4,500 to 5,000 feet per second, you see all these pictures of all these guys carrying about 65 pounds of body armor? Understand that there's nothing that anybody in that line is wearing that's going to stop what we're talking about. Nothing. Like a ray gun. Nothing that they could carry that would stop it and in fact as a solid bolt because that's what it's going to be or it won't fly. If you're talking using a hyper-ballistic single shot large boar weapon with Sabo like that or just 30 caliber with a tungsten carbide dart it would retain its integrity in flight increase and create calorie buildup through the cutting points, in other words, where it's traveling through the atmosphere. And when it hits that Kevlar, it's like butter. Oh, they don't want you to think about that because you don't need a whole brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Just imagine something that is traveling at 4,000 to 5,000 feet per second, made out of tungsten carbide. Then you have to be very rounded in the front. In fact, you don't want it too much of a spire point. You want more of a conical point, like a World War I 9mm projectile that the Germans made at the beginning of the war. Like a rocket ship. Yeah, they made it for armor penetration. All 9mm was AP originally made by the Germans in World War I. Most people don't know that. Now the whole point is that you can do the same thing with the projectile. You're not going to lose any mass to the front. In fact, while it will supercharge, it will not break away nor will it melt. It will supercharge, but upon contact, it would be again a devastating round. It would be just terminal. And pretty much anything that it comes in contact with front to back, all the way through that whole line of black uniforms, it would perforate permanently. You were hurt right away. Yeah, there would be a bunch of, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh plus the supersonic vacuum response. Nobody's talked about that with tissue. If you think it's bad with the expansion guys, what do you think happens with that pull slap as it drags the projectile through the corpse? Oh, that's not pretty. And it doesn't have to be very big to probably produce a wound channel about the size of two of your fists. Anyway, we're at the top. Down your number for night vision. You'll be available in just a minute. That number is 231796. 8 4 5 8. Oh but it still be a cauterized move. Yeah with a big long sucking spot going about inch and a half to five inches off the back end of the target. Through the rig, through the torso the person who probably thinks they just threw the biggest breath they ever had. And the last. God bless the republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen the Empire is on the run. But we are on the march both day and night. We don't want them to run too far, so let's aim and hit them hard and put them down and strip them like the corpses we look at them as being the black knuckle-dragging, uniformed, resupply pods. Dining number for night vision in closes, please. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless America. I want the same great Live 365 website experience without opening up a web browser. With the Live 365 Desktop app, you can do just that. At homework work, utilize the desktop app to reduce browser clutter while still accessing your favorite Live 365 stations. 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