May 30, 2014
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1h 8m
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2014
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Summary
Mark Koernke discussed logistics and resource collection for the Bundy Ranch standoff, including food donations and equipment acquisition. He provided extensive tactical and weapons analysis, focusing on the M1 Garand as a primary battle rifle and comparing it to alternatives like the M1A, HK-91, and AR-15 platforms. Koernke covered ammunition selection, rifle grenade systems, and squad-level tactics for militia operations, emphasizing marksmanship, target discipline, and the superiority of larger caliber weapons in field combat scenarios.
- bundy ranch
- m1 garand
- 30-06 ammunition
- militia tactics
- rifle grenades
- hk-91
- m1a
- ar-15
- 308 ammunition
- battle rifle
- marksmanship
- preparedness
- equipment acquisition
- logistics
- tactical operations
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A million petticoat junction operators, the ability to continue to function, what everything else is offline. So, as it is, let's check C. Do we have, oh well, do we have BK with us, yes or no? No sir, we do not. Oh, you made it. I tried to ring him on Skype and he did not answer. Oh, okay, very good. I got Spike there. Boy, I tell you, it was a little soft there. That's okay. We expected that. Remember he called in and said that he might not be able to make it. So we're not complicated there. Yes, sir. Appreciate all the work he's doing. I know he's probably got things going on. Let's see. Well, before we farther, I better make sure. Better make sure that we got the date right here 30th of May it is the sixth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2014 old earth calendar or Mayan crazy town Crazy town calendar and it's been pretty busy in general guys as we know We've got a lot of work to do and plenty of time to get it done in. If we do things right this weekend it's going to be very, very, very busy. With the people that are in there right now at the Bundy Ranch, they are of course doing a quick check of material and resources. We do have a wide range of material and equipment headed. outbound towards the Bundy Ranch. So we're trying to make a link right now with one other pickup. Might be able to do a little bit more on the outbound. We'll see what happens. But we have another collection point, two of the different sites. Actually, I think everybody's collecting this weekend. But two are focal points. One is Camp Emmerich and the other one is Nagy Hichum. However, any site, they're putting a pallet down. Anybody that wants to donate food this weekend, you can throw it on the pallet. and it will be delivered to us. We'll be shipping it back out there through one mechanism or another, but we are going to get the food out to the Bundys where it's needed out to the troops that are deployed. So we're working on that. It should turn out pretty well for us, I think, in general. And it has been a busy week. But in closing, we're just closing broadcasting for the weekend, but we're not going to be sitting still at all. In fact, just in reverse. We have a whole bunch of other specialized projects to complete. The radio trailer will be done. Also, we've got a couple of tactical vehicles. I have three Jeeps here that are in the process of being cycled up into active. Those are staying here in the state. I understand that we may have a couple of trucks. We'll find out more about that in a little bit. If they're here, we'll see what happens. It should be interesting again to see how the technology develops. But we've got people scouring the countryside for buses. Had several comments and locations, also images. We appreciate that. Everybody out there keeps scouring the countryside. We're looking for something that's affordable and that just needs to be minimally functional. Once it's out there, it's staying out there. It's not going any farther. Also, govliquidation.com, govliquidation.com, govliquidation.com. They have a whole bunch of additional material that is coming up on the auction that definitely is worth looking at, especially for our people out that way. I've pointed every one of them that we can into the area. as quickly as we possibly can. We'll be putting people on the ground to inspect the equipment and we should know more about that. Anyway, a couple things. I told everybody as quick as we could to take advantage of some of these closeout sales which or clearance sales and I've noticed that since you guys really really really took a liking to certain things and started to really buy them, they took them off the clearance section and started jacking the price up again. Now this is like the third time this has happened where we've pointed something out and it was on clearance. They wanted to get rid of it. They wanted to mark it down. They wanted to move it out and so they did in phenomenal numbers. I understand that. Well, like the one girl said, oh yeah, there were a lot of these being picked up. Well, it's interesting that apparently the people who run the place looked at it and go, oh my God, we can't sell these for this. We're going to have to sell them for more. So they've got them right back up to regular price, which is still not a bad price, by the way. In fact, it's pretty reasonable, considering you get the belt with it like the seven-pockets grenade pouch system. They call it the grenade bandolier, but in reality it's a whole pile of double pocket French CCE Woodland camo. grenade pockets on a German Bundeswehr combat belt, which is a good belt. I wear one of those pretty much all the time when I'm out working on the roofs and such, guys. And in fact, I made a whole bat belt up using one of those belts because they're so sturdy. They stand up on their own. They're very, very durable, very well built, and they don't make them anymore. In fact, I'm pretty sure if they did, they wouldn't make them with the same quality they were made. It's like U.S. Uh, pant belts, you know, traditionally the way they're made, they stand up on their own, they don't fall over and they aren't flimsy. The copies and the newer ones, not so much. So again, what this is very reminiscent of is one of the other companies, remember, had the Woodland Camo Extreme Wet Weather M65 field jacket hood, okay? and they had them for three dollars a piece. We mentioned them on the air and you guys just started buying the hell out of them. Well, they were in the clearance section because they wanted to clear them because they weren't moving, they weren't going anywhere. Now, these are personally, I think, one of the sharpest hoods they ever made for any of the jackets. It's well built, but it has its own built-in visor. It's got a double canopy for the hood, overdrapes the shoulder a little bit so that you don't get anything coming down your neck, and they were actually a very, they're still a very nice unit. I only see a couple companies that have them, including the one that originally I pointed you guys to, and of course they're not $3 anymore. As soon as they started moving, well, they took them right out of the clearance and markdown section because they were selling. It's like, well, I thought that's why you put them in the clearance section. So anyway, just a case in point, I'm not surprised. It's one of those things where The market is funny in that respect. I believe that they were trying to sell them because they wanted to get them off the shelf because they wanted to put more things on the shelf. Right? Well, maybe. Anyway. So I guess it's a good job you guys moved enough of them that he got worried and decided they weren't making enough on them considering what they were selling them out the door for. And I know that they probably did get them for a whole hell of a lot less, probably for pennies. But the world has changed with regard to their source probably too. And so they went and looked at the price from the retail from the from the Work and the purchase end from the source in Europe and went oh we can't sell those for that Well, why you weren't planning on carrying them anymore if you're putting them in clearance, right? So anyway, when you see it grab it take advantage of it. Remember that yeah you later on you can smile and sit back of that cup of coffee and go Yeah, I got about three of those for the price of it. What's going for now? That's like all you guys have bought all that 20 Q ammo once a week every time I told you to because you just kept putting it on the shelf. Why you guys have virtually metallic well, it should we say other metal gold let's put it that way yes, and when people come to you and Ask you if they can buy some of your 20 because yeah They get pissed off. You know where I can get some 22 and I keep having to tell people no. Yeah, that's right Well, you said you had a yeah, I know I do and I still have it and you know why for what I'm gonna sell it to you for I can't replace it It's like those $56 SKS's. You got me in those $56 SKS's? Well, I have some SKS's probably, but not any for you. It's $556 now. Whatever the market will bear. That's what you're going to be paying. It's just that simple. It's rather, you know, acute in that we watch this happen over and over with items. Now I'll warn everybody again, if you got a PTR 91, buy all of the magazines, the HK German mags that you can right now. You're not going to lose a penny. They're not going to go down. In fact, the more you have, the more likely you might even be willing to come off a few when the time comes. Not very many, but maybe a few. Right? So just something to think about there. It's the way everybody, the attitude everybody should have with regard to operations. As it is, again, you've got a whole bunch of other stuff that is going on around the country that's requiring logistics support. I will remind everyone that I know actually it still hasn't had a temperature. It hasn't been that great, you know, that extreme. Everybody's going home, throwing away all my cold weather gear. I'm putting away for the winter, you know, for the summer. Well, it's been chilly enough to throw all your stuff into the storage bin yet. At least keep that handle jacket and the liner out and take it with you if you're going to be going out west. You will need it eventually. I know we're getting hot during the night even, but you know when you start to adornate if you're going to be deployed out there for an extended period of time. Remember we've talked about this. You're looking at extreme ones where you go from one temperature during the day and drop it by 20, 30 degrees to 15 degrees. It's enough for you to realize that I'm handling my blood. It's not as thick as it was. And what happens is you'll hear by people complaining. I should have brought you. What's the big deal carrying the M65 field jacket? Or your reflector and marker along with you? And then if they don't need it, that stays rolled up and in the bottle. Right there where it needs to be. Now it has to be accessed. I should have gone. They came where I was coming from. What I would have would be grabbed. I would be in a pathway by a student halfway across the country. I have plenty of time to Number one, make a decision real quick. Think about it, you're driving to the event, you're flying with your own aircraft, it might be a little different, but not much. Number one, it's a matter of equipment, with weapons systems, by no pluses, by no pluses, pluses and minuses. What I have to make sure is, what I have to make sure is, one by one, one by one, one by one, enemy, pick one, enemy, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, that's too much, enemy, enemy, that's too much Number one, if I had primary one, primary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon, secondary weapon But bring up these and bring up COSR and the COSR priority at a comp route, and a second advantage, and a second automatic. Along with the accuracy of the access to the standard and sustainable system, and available like the hands of my like eating if I go out and I'm not going to, but I could. But I'm not going to. I'm going to give you the great C-bar about being in the C-bar about that. And that would bring off the cost of the 30-odd six instead. But wait, you just talked about a semi-auto, yes. But what I wanted was that 0.06 round, and I want that energy, I want the bullet, I want the weight down range. Now, if I were to go a bolt gun, 0.30 0.06 would be best. Now, I know I could go a 300 win mag, I could go anything else you can imagine, but there's method to my madness with the 0.06. Now, this is for me. Number one, I know the nuances of the rifle that I'd be carrying. Having used the Garand a lot, it's not persnickety for me the way it might be for a younger shooter. And I can make that rifle sing out to, you know, a thousand yards with iron sights. I will make you know that I'm there at a thousand yards with iron sights on a not six. The scope rifle would perform in the same way in all the intermediate ranges, but of course with the optics I could probably dot your eye better at the greater distances, obviously, because I have the optics. But the balance is the firepower. Being able to go semi-auto as needed, or select fire with the M1 Garand down the road. Oh, you didn't think about that. Zee-whoa! Yeah, say what? Well, I always carry a box of toothpicks when I carry a Garand. Okay guys, I always carry a box of toothpicks if I'm carrying an M1A. But if I were using the toothpick the way you should, and you only have to use one, it's only cut down to the width of those claws that are in the trigger system. And with one piece of toothpick, I can change the attitude of the Garand or the M1A and it's not modifying the weapon but with the M1 Garand when the thing does what it's supposed to do what you're going to hear is BLEH-RAA-BING! and it's also a mini flamethrower in the process too. Pretty exciting when that happens. Okay? But! The thing is why would I want to do that? Well, number one, I will tell you that years ago guys going into the beach at Normandy or people who were in Korea were always short certain amount of what we call rear guard weapons and they didn't necessarily want to carry the 1990, you know, the 1918 Browning. So using a toothpick to enhance the or the grand to give you a lot of firepower all at once is something that was a very popular trick. How do I know this? I served a lot of guys who killed a lot of Chinese. Okay, number one. So the Grand has an emergency option as needed and in a big cartridge. Where it would come in handy is that big penetrating cartridge with limited air defense. If I got to put a bullet into something and I got to stay on target for just a moment and the grand still going to ride, if I wanted to, again, deal with something at short to intermediate range, in other words, they're right on top of you. Well, the Hot Sixes in the M2AP will do a fine job of going through three-quarters of an inch of homogeneous armor plate at 300 yards. I've got a piece that's one inch that it stippled almost straight through and that was actually tapered and it was cut off of a Sherman, or forgive me, it was cut off the front glacis of a Stewart tank on the right side. Well, we actually use those pieces of metal for practice, for testing. Now, the thing is that I can opt out to specialize the weapon in emergency, number one. I use it in its original configuration, preferred. And in addition to that, remember, as a semi-automatic battle rifle, but I can also use it for placement shooting. In other words, I can use it as a base of fire weapon to support the other shooters who have the light rifles that don't have the same potential range. Now, the other consideration with the Hot 6, why does Mark keep saying Hot 6? Well, here's the thing. I'm going into a battlefield environment where I don't know how reliable my supply train is going to be. The disadvantage of the Grand are the deeclamps. The advantage of the Garand is .30-06. Now why? Well, in an emergency, and I will repeat this again, only in an emergency, only in an emergency. We don't want to do this as a regular diet for our rifle. Remember that .308 is considered baby .30-06, or it's .30-06 shorty. What basically they did is nothing new. They just ratcheted back the dies on the .30-06. to 308 size and went kachunka-chunka-chunka-chunka-chunk. So the cool thing is that 308 case will drop right into the chamber of a .06. And in an emergency off of somebody else's corpse, like a MAG-58 gunner or off a vehicle or, you know, because one of my buddies there has ammo, I could use 308 as an emergency cartridge. So I also have two options in ammunition. Which is another thing that I have to look at not what I expect everybody to do this Well, the reason I picked the grant is because of my experience with it not bragging It's just guys in the dirt dust and carrying it along ways and carrying it for quite some time There's nothing the grand is going to surprise me with Okay, so I can handle that. Some people might have a problem with the op rod, scared of getting your thumb caught in the action, etc. If you've worked a D-clip long enough, you're comfortable with it. Okay? The big advantage is chambering because I can use .308 in the OTSIX. In other words, and again, I'll qualify the other weapons. It would be an option. Again, I'd go right down the pecking list here. But the Garand would probably be my choice initially simply because of available ammunition, a selected cornucopia of ammunition. Here's the other part that most people don't think about. There are still more exotic rounds available for 30.06 than any other cartridge out there. And because of the proliferation of munitions that came out of World War II that we fought the last 60 years worth of wars with, and we still are to a degree, uh... somebody is uh... are piercing are piercing incendiary tracer tracer tracer and uh... tracer incendiary uh... fragmentation fragmentation ball okay frangible which i'm not going to use on everybody but i'll tell you what you get somebody with a fragile out six-round which was designed for aircraft gunnery target practice you know against aircraft yet he was you could shoot a drone and wouldn't kill it Well, if you hit somebody soft with that, it is one of the most hellacious and monstrous rounds. It's like hitting somebody with a shotgun shell at point blank range. When it hits a person, it's friend-gible. So what it does is, and remember it was designed to go out the same distance as an M2 ball round, but when it hits, it was designed to pulverize so that it did not do significant damage to the target, the air drone. Okay, but you still could confirm a hit. Well, if you take that same frangible ball round and stick that in a person's carcass at, you know, 100 yards, when somebody does the autopsy, they're gonna think you used a 410 or a 20 gauge on them at point blank range. Just something to think about. So there's this wide range of ammunition. So if I actually have a master of that weapon, I can also put those rounds where I need to, which means that it's my motivation is as a master gunner, or the equivalent to a rifle marksman in a mini Grenadier in a way. Now these rounds used to be spit out like popcorn back in the day, so don't think that you, oh, they were really, really precise with everything. No, they would pepper an area with, you know, incendiary rounds and you'd see, boom, or they'd pepper with tracer and incendiary AP and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. and there go the fuel tank on whatever it was you were shooting at because that's really what you're trying to do is get the fuel to do for you which you can't do because you don't have something that's big and shoulder fired. Okay. Now the Hot 6, again if I take the Grand at least 300 rounds battle pack on me and a lot of spares of everything to include if I were going out to the deployment and I knew I wasn't coming back this way and I was going into the field even here in Michigan. If I were to carry the Grand a spare off-road would be in the kit all the spare spring assemblies, even a spare bolt group if I could simply because again if I carbon the thing up from a lot of shooting I don't have to worry about doing maintenance. I pull the bolt, replace the bolt and work on the other bolt later. Okay, one little trick. We're gonna go to break. We're using a Garand for the moment but there are other weapons that are an option and they should be because we have a choice of this type to make going into the field. We'll be back in a bit here. Break, bottom of the hour, it's Friday. the seat in our home land. Boys, let it go, we're all competed with our devotion. Boys, call it the Liberty Tree. So, tall, oh. We all need to prepare ourselves. You might have the food, water, gold and silver, but ask yourself, are you truly prepared? That's why you need to visit MaineMilitary.com. MaineMilitary.com carries everything you need. 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The revolution is here and we as patriots must defend the Republic. Judan hammering the New World Order. We reluctantly crouched at the starting line. And that was cake and we're back. TUDE! Anyway, that's good. I come to chew bubble gum and kick rumpus Every day at 2 o'clock Eastern Monday through Friday on hammering the new order that's part of the run-up Excellent. Very good Well, everybody out there again. It is Friday boy. We're halfway through the little more than halfway through the hour now And it's still light outside. In fact, that's the deceptive part. When we start the program, it's bright enough to think afternoon. Well, kind of like it is, because, hey, we got more light to work with now. A quick reminder before going farther, solar lighting guys, solar lighting, solar lighting, unfortunately, since we mentioned the lights at all these, they seem to be out. They haven't been offering any, and they haven't even had any in stock, which is kind of sad, because I'm holding. one of the really nice ones they first offered and this one was only a couple of dollars well every place else they're selling them about twelve dollars a piece so I kicked myself in the rumpus I should have bought a whole pile of them a whole rack one of the things that's neat about them is that these are a glass globe and have the crinkle cut glass, the crinkle, you know, broke, break glass pattern in them so that for a nightlight they're fantastic. They create great illumination. They've gotten, you know, they're not too bright, but they're also, again, they offer a lot of illumination for the work areas where we put them. So again, in fact, I've got a plant I'm working on. They're coming back in. They're the Florida ornamentals and once they're back in, the nightlight goes back in there and I've got illumination for free. Illumination, son. Illumination. Okay, now, M1 Garand. Again, diversified ammunition. If I was carrying the Garand, I would use an assault rig, although I would still probably use the M1919 or the M1941 cartridge belt with a 10 pocket. Why? Well, most of the assault rigs have the ability to adapt a pistol belt to the base. And again, one of the things about main battle rifle cartridges, while they are heavy, we can distribute the weight more efficiently by using smaller pockets and pouches, so we're not concentrated in a handful of areas which drag down the harness, change and shift the way that the harness rides on your person, which of course creates abrasion and discomfort. Any time that you can spread the weight out along a wider area, guys, you're going to be more efficient in general. Just remember that. Now, of course, if I was carrying a light rifle like an AR-15, then you'd see me with piles of mag pouches. So it'd still be distributed, but there'd be lots and lots of mags. Number one, you're not going to be carrying enough ammunition. It's going to get light fast and you're going to wonder where it went. So you have to also regulate and control your fire. Now beyond the way that the fact that I'm using smaller pockets I would also situate my ammunition with a d-clip so that I know with my eyes closed what's in a pocket group In other words, I don't want to waste AP and just dump it down range. Ball ammunition will tear through a lot of body armor in .30-06, will tear through a lot of ligaments, tendons, and bones. You line up three or four of the Jack-Booted Black Uniform thugs. You will, if you aim at crotch point and hip point, you will go through more than two targets as long as you line them up. If you aim just a hair lower, remembering you're tapering that shot, you're going to go through a butt cheek, maybe a crotch area, then upper thigh, then maybe hit a knee, maybe as a progressively taper, you may also get deflection, you're going to hit bones, okay? But the idea is that at intermediate or close range, with a high powered rifle cartridge, there's not a whole lot like this that's in front of you that's going to offer protection for them. Another consideration, not that there's any trees out in the desert. So again, I at least have more energy at greater range with this OTS-6 in bolt gun or in the M1 Garand. Now the bolt gun everybody says, what about fire power? Accuracy over fire power, if I shoot them and hit them badly once, they're being hit at such a great distance that while they're leaking, the ambition to go any farther is probably going to be taken out of them. Just think about that. Volume fire suppression. is for the light rifles. Why? Well, the very argument they've used, they can carry more ammo. So they can actually pull the trigger a little more often. But my job, because of the experience that I have, should be to progressively destroy the will of the enemy to proceed. Every time that my rifle discharges and puts a bullet down range, it should hit a target. That's my job. All of you that are experienced shooters must be thinking the same way. Now, I've already explained the commonality and also duality of the Out6 route. I can use 30 Out6 until I run out. If I run into .308 to keep the weapon running, I can switch over to .308. Okay? I can use it. It's not my first choice. And in fact, with the grands that we built up, either built grands where we took grand receiver halves and welded them back together, we used to do that by the hundreds, if not the thousands here, guys. In each one of ours, back in the day, they cost us $8 apiece for a 308, 30-06 conversion. It's an 0.06 to 308 conversion spacer that goes in the chamber. This was the Navy's answer to this problem. And if I knew that I wouldn't have any more out 6, I would eventually use that spacer. But for temporary use, I wouldn't bother. I would simply use the round, use the out 308 in the out 6 chamber knowing that it's going to blow out. You're going to have it, the face of the case will fracture. There will still be extraction. It will not be radical. but the case will be unserviceable when we're done with it. However, I don't think in that situation, if I'm in a critical fighting situation, I'm going to be worrying about the condition of my brass while I'm more worried about somebody putting leaky holes in me. Okay? Now, if I didn't take that out six, I would probably go with any one of a number of .308 rifles. It's a du jour choice. Some of you have committed to the FNFL. Good weapon, nothing wrong with it. The M1A, well if I had more money and Mark was wealthier, I would probably carry an M1A, but I'm not wealthy and I don't have a pile of those around. Magazines have been the issue for several years, so it comes down to that HK-91. Now the HK-91 does have a unique different set of sights and until you gain more time with the weapon, you're not going to know what your variable is with Kentucky windage until you've actually trained with the weapon, but if you have, Once again, it's cheap mags, lots of them loaded, piles of ammunition, and now that .308 can serve as both a placement rifle and with lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of mags, could even serve in the same role as a BAR or could serve in the same role as a simulated squad gun in .308. Characters on the other side aren't going to know if you do the 3-5 fire with a 20 round magazine and an HK. 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Every tank is carrying at least that, outside plus inside. You've got coaxial guns that are 7.62x51 NATO. You've got roof guns that are 7.62x51 NATO. What will happen in a short period of time is unlike what you saw with the initial Bundy standoff, for instance, you won't be seeing that many MP5s employed in that kind of battlefield environment. Now, they might upgrade to submachine guns like the M4, the what we call an assault rifle or the M4. It's not a rifle. It's a carbine at best. But in traditional design, Stoner called it a submachine gun. So even the M4, for the type of environment, since they're not going to get to go door to door, we're talking about field ranging here. So for field ranging if they want to go to stubby chubbies, and they still want to be inferior with regard to their weapons I don't have any problem with that I prefer that I hope they keep doing it Congratulations the bad part is when you're picking the weapons off their corpses. You're not going to get as many useful goodies Hey mark, okay, just think that out. Go ahead call her if we have this is spike I had a quick. Oh, that's right. You said submachine gun, and then there's machine gun. What's what makes the What makes the jump there? Well, the big thing with the AR, with the originally the M16 as you know it, as everybody knows it with a 20 inch barrel was considered an assault rifle. The main battle rifle of course and at the time the official firearm of the U.S. Army, the M14, was in a larger caliber and a longer barrel length. The AR fit the niche of, you know, fit the niche and the family marker for a true assault rifle based upon its counterpart, the AK. But when we start dropping the barrel back, what happens is we do shorten the package, which is what everybody seems to think they want when they don't. We don't really need it. It works, I mean, for certain missions. But you're now looking at reducing velocities while still having a large magazine capacity. So that's why it's rated in terms of specifications. Originally, the Kar-15 was rated as a submachine gun. because of the extreme ballistic drop off with the shorter barrels. I see. It doesn't really have anything to do with the action. It's more the velocity and the barrel. Well, very. That's just it. The dominant number of weapons. See, that's where you get into these things that it's not a zebra and it's not a mule and it's not a horse. It's in the family, but it's not quite right, because it has other features. The assault rifle family with the M16, they benchmarked it. 20 inches was basically the area they wanted to stay with the barrel. They had experimented with short barrels. Stoner did all of that. He did it back in 1956, 57, so he already knew what the weapon would do in 308 or in the assault rifle cartridge, the seven millimeter assault, or in what he eventually, we would call 223. The traditional submachine guns were pistol, the specification was a pistol type cartridge, large magazine capacity, quick detachable capability, and of course, high cyclic or mid-cyclic rate of fire. And the cyclic race is not relevant because that's a pure philosophy thing. So you have zip guns that burn off 900 to 1000 rounds per minute. You've got others that hang down around 350 to 400. Some argue that that's not enough firepower for a submachine gun. You know, again, how much am I carrying? The logic that each country embraced with their submachine guns was based upon their logistics train. That's how they embraced the design. And each had different philosophies about accuracy. A lot of countries, when they first came up with a submachine gun, they wanted it to reach farther. And they did, in fact. They, in fact, came up in most cases with hotter rounds to give greater delivery down range. That was still going on with the French even after World War II and was very popular in South America, where you have submachine gun only pistol cartridges that upgraded the performance of the submachine gun. While it did increase velocity, it also unfortunately increased cyclic rate. You make it hotter, it's cooking the machine faster. So yeah, you got a little more oomph out of it, but the problem is that you had to be a little more, a better master of the gun. If it was full auto and trying to pull off a 3 or 5 round burst because now when you pull the trigger if you're used to a certain cyclic process to control it, you've got to recondition yourself with some training. You'll get used to it, it doesn't take long. But in the CAR-15 as a submachine gun, the logic was that the air was already a limited penetration gun with a limited range as the assault rifle M16. cutting the barrel shorter, considering that we were looking at a lot of open terrain use, it defeated the purpose behind the weapon. Now for a secret police operation like Desert Dust Part 1 and 2 where we're playing secret police, we kick in the doors, we steal people's guns, we steal their jewelry, we take their oil, we help the Israelis steal the national wealth, well, secret police operating door to door the little m4 is great but when it goes up against somebody with who is outfitted completely with a superior cartridge and a better rifle it's going to get its ars ring and they don't want to talk about that see unlike unlike the people they fought so far if you were to take an entire military force a militia force like we have we have battlefield supremacy weapons across the board plus as an aside we have everything they've got See, that's the difference. We are not limited in terms of what we're carrying. Now, they had to go back out and buy a heavy, well, a medium machine gun again. You might recall, for the longest time, if everybody argues, well, they don't need that .308, really, then why did they rebuy the MAG-58, which is nothing more than the Browning machine gun reinvented? The Marines and the Army all have the MAG-58 back in service. Why? Because that .308 round has a superiority factor that is par-none under present conditions. And so instead of everybody sticking with the saw in .556, you'll notice that we stepped back up and put a heavy weapons system into play, a medium, it's not a heavy, it's a medium. But a heavier weapon system into play because that .308 cartridge and its ability with the volume fire available was a desirable thing. It serves a purpose. So they can try to deny it, but the logistics and the purchasing that have been done contradict their BS about how the .223 can do everything. If that's the case, they would never have bought the MAG-58 machine gun in the, what is it, the .258 or whatever they call it now. We have been sticking with little 223 cartridge guys So there's method to the madness now just imagine an entire militia force while the secret police are using their mp5s their m4s, etc We're switching out to 308 30 out 6 762 by 54 are We have a heavier bullet, we're focusing on target. While certainly their armor offers protection, we also understand like fighting a tank, we don't aim for the frontal plates, we go for the mobility. Shoot their legs off them underneath them. You hit them once with an .6. Well, like I said, if you're not going to probably worry about the Geneva Convention, so a lot of guys with scope rifles are going to make a lot of these characters legless wonders. Curse of Blush. Yeah, how long are they going to last? And they're not coming back. Once you do that to them, they're not coming back to bother any more of your friends. See, that's the one thing to think about. Spraying and praying. You know, we have to get everybody out of that mentality. We may have people to keep them busy, be quite honest, submachine guns and light rifles are good for that. A handful of weapons in your team would be carrying, you know, the guys are carrying ARs. Well, not a handful, but ARs. And even submachine guns in pistol cartridges because those could be suppression to keep everybody busy because they're lighter and cheaper to carry as far as ammunition, more of it. But the real death dealers, the real damage is with your MBRs. Because whatever they're hiding behind, your bullet goes through. Whatever you hit that's behind, whatever they're hiding behind, it goes through too. There's something to think about. See all of the formula changes. Number one, we're not the poor little guy that's in a pair of sandals in the Middle East wearing a, you know, hand-me-down blue jeans and a t-shirt who just watched Rambo. And he's got the idea that he jumps out in the street, holds the AK at a 45 degree angle and pulls a whole mag off and doesn't hit Jack squat. Number one, I ain't wearing no sandals. Number two, I don't like blue jeans. Number three, I ain't jumping out in the street for anybody to become a target. And as far as pulling a round down range, every one of the 30 rounds I have, if I had an AK, would be focused on the target. It wouldn't be any of this bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, nah. You wouldn't hear that from me. Every time you hear a rifle round go down range from a weapon I'm carrying, my job is to hit you. It is not to scare you. Or to think that I can scare you. See, that's the mentality everybody has to have. Imagine, in fact, even with half of that going on, Had the shooting started the day that the Bundy cattle were returned, imagine what that would have been like. Think about it. I mean, it's not the .223s, those guys that have kept them busy, but it's the guys with the deer rifles in the 50s that were up on the ridge or that were off to the side or that were again on the flanks. And every time they pull the trigger, it would be just like killing a mule deer. If I were them, I'd aim right for the hip. It wouldn't be in his, I'm gonna do a headshot. Oh hell, with that garbage. I always hear that BS all the time. I'll do a headshot. Really, the pie plate bounces around. But when a person moves, that hip has to stay centered. That's the one thing about a hip shot, you gotta remember, you've got to have that center of gravity centralized, stabilized. And you mentally do it. You physically condition yourself through your life to do it. So that hip isn't going anywhere fast enough to get out of the way. You put a hole through them that that size about your fist through something like that a target like that. He's finished I won't even bother with a follow-up shot. I just know if I got him and I saw red mister chunks of something flying. That's good enough That's all I need now focus another round on one of my enemies. It's trying to hurt one of my other friends And everybody keeps doing that. All of a sudden the guns go quiet on the other side except for screaming in the radios and thrashing around with one or two. They're trying to crawl back to the rear after you shot them between the shoulder blades because they tried to run. Well, I shot him in the hip down below and gave him a new bung hole. He's laying there bleeding bad. He's still trying to crawl along, leaving a snail trail, but he's not getting away. I walk up and butt stroke his hind end to save ammo. Once to the back of the head crack he's done. Now strip him. That's not my job. I'm watching for any lead behinds. Kiss. You know, again, sweep the area. Do not assume that you've got them all until you sweep the area. And remember, do not expose yourself even though you may have destroyed the maneuver element until you find every stinking sniper they have and you gut them. Don't assume you can move through an area. Always tactical. Never get comfortable. Oh, no, you can light them up. No, you can't. We don't light them up until we've got all the corpses stripped and we've got all the gear and we've done a complete sweep of the area and we pushed back the perimeter for a mile beyond the objective where the contact took place there if it was at that bridge. And even then there'd be people whining, oh wow, they're gone! And then you hear that, wah! With that tail end Charlie trying to put a bullet in one of our people and except they're sloppy and they weren't paying attention, he might get a bullet into somebody. We don't want that to happen. So we take it seriously from the get-go. Heavier is always better. If you over run an enemy position and you've got a character you just finished off that has a belt fed gun, you turn it around and swing it on them, even if you don't know how to use it, if it's already loaded and still can fire, run it till she runs dry. We'll show you how to run the rest. So just again something to think about and it's a personal thing for me a lot of you guys are carrying ARs notice I didn't say well you're all gonna carry an AR out there guys if that's what you're perfected you do it now my second weapon over my shoulder I'll be quite honest an AR or an AK if I carried the bolt gun I'd have to have a semi so it'd be an AR and AK probably why simply because again lots of mags lots of ammo and you guys probably are carrying some for a hand cannon, preferably something with a 6-inch barrel, preferably something in a wheel gun, but it could be an automatic the same way. If I can't afford much, hey, anything to at least get me a third or, well, actually a secondary weapon when I'm in motion, just in case. Now, why a 6-inch? Well, look at the terrain out there. And I fully believe in what Mr. Cooper said about the .357 Magnum, guys, or the .38 Special for that matter. If you hit them once, you don't have to try and scare them anymore. And again, you're going to be able to see farther than you can shoot. So you need to master the tools you're taking into the field. Another thing about the Garand or the M14 or the HK91, rifle grenades, rifle grenade flares, and a number of other things can be used with the weapon to make it work right, to make it a significant contributing factor. The HK-91, its flash hider, is a grenade launcher. Your AR-15 flash hider is a grenade launcher. Does everybody understand that? All of those are standard size for spigot launching systems, but they require a blank, not a live round, not a ball round. They require a launching blank. It's more likely that you'll find a launching blank for a .30-06 out there in in the ammo land world, okay, then a 308. Although there's a lot of 308s out there that mostly overseas. Hey Mark, do those have a powder charge in them or something? Yes, they do. Okay. What they are though is they are using a different kind of blank. They're not using the EC powder. They are using a concussive powder that's more like, it's a slower burner in the black powder range, but still more than fast enough so that it creates a low pressure, high velocity launch. This is basically the same theory as the 40 millimeter grenade launcher. It's just that the cartridge goes into the chamber now Spigot launchers were made for the 8 millimeter Mauser We have thousands of these that are set up as Grenadier's weapons British Enfield's number fours they made launchers and they made cup launchers for the SMLE if you have the smelly it's a cup launcher if You have a number four they made a lot of add-on Spigot launchers and they're all in the same dimension as the US and NATO standard Beyond that, they made launchers if you go through, in fact look, punch in grenade launcher, rifle grenade launcher for M1 carbine, M1 garand, or 1903 Springfield. You will find the model of the launcher available typically was the 7, the Mark 7, but there are Mark 8s and Mark 9s and there's other asterisk models. The launcher was added on and was affixed by the bayonet lug. So you put it on the end of the weapon, it looks like a, it looks like a lunky silencer, not as big as the ones you always see in the movies. But it actually is, what it is, is a spigot fixture that goes over the crown of the barrel, locks in place with a bayonet lug. You eject all of your live rounds for safety, you pull all the live rounds out of the magazine or drop the D-clip. You have a D-clip that has eight blank cartridges in it. You insert the blank cartridge. Well, actually for safety sake, let's reverse that proper procedure for you. Forgive me. Step one is first, weapon is cleared. We apply the launcher. We then apply the grenade. We then return to the action with the action already locked to the rear. We then insert a D-clip with eight blank cartridges. The blank cartridge is designed as a shock strike force system. The base of the grenade is blocked. It is a piece of cap metal on the end of an aluminum or steel tube. The fin-stabilized system usually, of course, is pretty obvious. It's self-explanatory. Depending on how far down you set the grenade onto the spigot launcher determines how much resistance there is before launch. And again, the idea behind this is to build up additional pressure to send the rifle grenade out farther. Now, Warning, warning, warning. There's a thing called a medicine ball. This will increase the range three-fold of the standard rifle grenade. Do not use the medicine ball in a carbine. Do not use the medicine ball insert in a Springfield, a Garand, because it's a gas action and it will float. That's typically where it was recommended. The medicine ball goes up inside the base of the rifle grenade or the flare. What it is, is a supplemental charge that actually caps and activates to four-fold the amount of energy applied to the base of the grenade. When you launch, this was especially desirable for what we use them for, for rifle flares, and I used to have thousands of these. This would launch a standard rifle grenade parachute, or rifle parachute flare, out to about 1,800 yards, up and out. This would allow for a longer burn time over target and since the World War II, Mark I and Mark II flares burned typically all the way to the ground, this meant that you had twice to three times the illumination while the parachute was floating. Okay, so there are advantages to the rifle grenade flares and the rifle grenade systems. However, do a little research. All the information is available. Go to YouTube. You can find out more about what I'm talking about. I'm showing a tee on the microphone. Did y'all see this? Yeah, I'm describing it. Anyway, that's one of the reasons that the Garand is a much more diverse weapon than most people typically understand. And again, with the person who's experienced a Korean War vet or anybody that's had time on the Garand, it is a fine compliment to your combined arms team of militia in the field. So it's a personal choice as long as you have the support, the weapons system, munitions and all the other gear and support, you know, the experience. You can feel it without any problem. We got millions of men that are going to be carrying garands. Be prepared for that. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We're on the march, both day and night. Hoorah! Well, Spike, you're taking over, sir. We're going to take off for now. Guys, everybody have a good weekend. and the ltr and indiana cream talk radio continuing broadcasting under the master's hand we'll see you in a bit about life three sixty five Hey Mom, why is the sky blue? Why don't animals talk? Why do dogs have wet noses? Why is an 11 pronounced one-two-one? Kids ask a lot of questions. Why do I have a belly button? But you don't have to know every answer. Why is the ocean salty? Because you don't have to be perfect to be a perfect parent. 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