May 29, 2014
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59m
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2014
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Mark Koernke and Don Betcher discussed international military developments including a Ukrainian helicopter crash and Russian military movements in Ukraine, then pivoted to domestic concerns about illegal immigration and border security. The hosts extensively covered the ongoing Bundy Ranch deployment in Nevada, including camp locations, supply logistics, camouflage improvements, and the need for night vision and thermal imaging technology. They emphasized operational security, proper equipment deployment, and the importance of preparedness for escalating confrontations with federal authorities.
- bundy ranch
- nevada
- ukraine
- russian military
- helicopter
- night vision
- thermal imaging
- militia deployment
- blm
- immigration
- border security
- camp larson
- operational security
- camouflage
- preparedness
- federal government
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O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, is this still the land of the free and home of the forgotten? And good. Evening, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Evening Intelligence Report. I am Mark Kornke. And I'm Don Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, east, southeast, west, and north. 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It's been clear and medium temperatures. What's it like in your neck of the woods? and what's jumping off the wall up there? Well it was a rather pleasant day this 29th day of May. Sunny, slightly breezy, no threat of rain, a beautiful springtime day. Well, wait a minute. It's after Memorial Day, isn't it? So you can get your white slacks and shirts out. Well, don't wear them into combat. Unless you're in the Arctic. At any rate, it is the 29th day of May, 2014. And a couple things are going on. Mark, did you happen to see the film of that Ukrainian helicopter with 11 or 12 Ukrainian troops on it and a Ukrainian general in a burning mass as it fell out of the sky, leaving a big black oily stain behind it? Did you see that? I mean, the thing we've warned everybody about, helicopter is an unfriendly battlefield environment. Oh, yeah. And it's just that they have to beat the air into submission. Yes. Yeah. Well, they were up there pretty far. There was a good bit of smoke behind them, and they still had a long way to go trailing smoke before they augured in. Well, helicopters don't augur in. At any rate, that was in Ukraine, you guys. Now, if you've been watching, and there's a reason I'm doing this. I know this is someplace else, and it's not our problem and all of that. But did you see the Russian BMPs carrying Russian sympathizers in Ukraine round the streets of Ukraine. How do they get those, Mark? You walk in and take them. Yeah. This is true. This is one of those things we remind everybody about. It says, well, either that or some people gave them to them. But you know, they were given. Yeah, yeah, maybe not as freely as you might think but they definitely got them back. Let's put it that way. Well, some of them might have been taken from the Russians that were driving them because the Ukrainians claim to have almost 40 Russian bodies now. Russian nationals inside Ukraine stirring the pot. Now, there's a reason why we're going along this line. You know, historically Ukraine, Russia, same thing, you know that. We've addressed that for years. Otherwise, how could Stalin starve all those Ukrainians? At any rate, it's nothing to laugh about, but it's an ironic comparison, isn't it? An ironic gut. It's tragic. But, again, we got helicopters falling out of the sky. We've got armored vehicles, military vehicles. Did you see the one civilian van towing a big rubber wheeled anti-aircraft gun? That was cool as all I wonder where they got that Probably tomorrow the Russians or it was given to them directly by the Russians or driven across the border by the Russians So it's not like the there's a you guys you there's a reason for this It's not like the Ukrainian people are rising up against their government and trying to overthrow their government in fact the Ukrainian people this past weekend had a vote that were told was a A supermajority, that's what that Secretary of State said, a supermajority for independence from Russia and for their chocolate guy, the new president, maybe it's not the chocolate magnet, but for their new president and being free from Russia. You wonder where all those armored vehicles came from, and we'll get back to that device falling out of the sky, but let's transfer all of this over to the North American continent. and we've done this before and we've used Kosovo and Herzegovina and throw Bosnia in there too as an example. I know it's supposed to be Bosnia-Herzegovina but that doesn't exist anymore, does it? At any rate, how about a whole bunch of Mexicans coming into Arizona and California, New Mexico and saying, well, we want to be what we used to and we've offered this up as an example before, haven't we? Now, again, You wonder how many... Oh, I'm talking with someone in the Phoenix area and they're telling me that, Mark, Texas had 20 or 30 illegals and they're so overwhelmed with the illegals they just put them in a Texas police car, you know, van, and drove them into Phoenix and released them. And drove them into Phoenix and told them, get out of the bus. You're free now. I did that with a Russian accent on purpose. Can you see the parallels? Now, let's completely shift gears. Let's go back to that helicopter falling out of the sky. That was a Ukrainian military with Ukrainian military, 11 or 12 military and one general, Ukrainian general on board. Perhaps they shot that one down just because he took that flight too. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe it was just a target of opportunity. We could draw up another of other a number of other scenarios that would explain that helicopter falling out of the sky and burning and everybody inside going out, out, out, out, out until they don't go out, out, out anymore and they were probably all dead before they hit the ground. Let's go over to Syria and I'm not really changing gears here or shifting flying a different flag or anything. Watch this. It's usually fly a different kite, you know. I don't know why that flag came out. Let's go over to Syria. because, you know, fearless leader, he says that he's going to send arms to Syria now. Now, this is, well, we'll talk more about this and we'll get even higher and pass the stratosphere in a few minutes. But he's going, you know, Bama-Lama-Ding-Dong, that Kenyan president of ours, is going to send arms to the Syrian rebels. Now, we're gonna get even broader in the scope here because we address that. maybe four months ago, you might remember late, late, or four months ago, late in the winter, yeah. We got that Snowden fellow. And you know, if you listen to him, he tries, he believes that he's doing America a favor, he's protecting our liberties and our freedoms and all of this and that by pointing out how our government is spying on us and all kinds of things, but then he flees the country to what is a, at the very least a competitive country, if not a former communist nation. And commies really don't change, do they? Now, Family Mending Dong is going to send small arms Syria. That was mentioned the other day, and it's going to happen. You wonder what's included in that deal. And when they first started talking about this, you guys, we brought this up on the air that day. And we brought up, I do believe we invoked that Snowden fellow. You know, he'll sit there and tell you he's operated around the world under other names that weren't his and he's worked for the CIA and he was trained as a spy and all kinds of things. But, you know, they make him out to be a low-level intelligence interpreter. Low-level intelligence generally isn't deployed in other countries with false documents, are they, Mark? At any rate... Let's invoke Snowden into this and let's talk about the arms being shipped to Syria. Because one can, well, it would be, I would wonder if they're bringing up the odds in Las Vegas, Mark, about if we ship stingers or anti-aircraft, shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles into Syria. How long it would, do it like this. The odds might be kind of short for 24 hours to London. and 24 hours after that to the east coast of America. And it might be 24 hours directly to the east coast of America after some Syrians take delivery of anti-aircraft shoulder fired missiles, no matter what we call them these days. Now with that in mind, think about flying the friendly skies of America. They'll treat you like you're in an Israeli jet, they'll treat you like you're in a Russian jet, they'll treat you like you're in a Ukrainian helicopter, even if there's a general on board. But here comes that Snowden fellow. Let's invoke him again. You know, maybe he really does exist. Maybe he really is a real person. And if he's a real person and he sees these small arms and anti-aircraft devices being delivered into Syria, perhaps he would move to defend the American people by releasing all of the information on Air Force One. Like, you know, anti-aircraft missile countermeasures. So we would level the playing field so that fearless leader would have just as much advantage or dis in front of that word as every American. So if you're listening, we know Washington listens. Edward, help! Please, Mr. Snowden, do this for us. Tell us all about Air Force One's countermeasures. Do something good for America. in more ways than one. Boy, that statement right there, do something good for America, I could have said that. Snowden, tell us all about Air Force One's countermeasures and do something good for America and let that be a stand-alone statement. Understand that? We don't have to qualify it with Ukrainian generals dying in the air. We don't have to qualify it with, well, now we get closer to home. We don't have to qualify it with borders that aren't closed, do we? Or, you know, that should be a federal matter of state shipping illegals from one state to another, just shuffling them around inside the country. That should be a federal matter. One might think that the Attorney General, you know, the head law enforcement officer of the land, the Attorney General, you know, the head law enforcement officer of the land, the big kahuna, would have something to say about it. Oh, here comes John Belushi. But no! He ain't gonna say nothing about it because they've got their agenda. They're looking at what's going on in Ukraine. They're looking at what went on in Bosnia-Herzegovina. And they're working that right here and right now under our very noses. So please, Mr. Snowden, if you hear an inkling, just an iota, just a hint of anti-aircraft missiles moving into uncontrollable hands on another continent, balance out, use your knowledge as a countermeasure for what Obama would be doing to America by sending anti-aircraft missiles into Syria because you've won combat. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they're producing these odds in Las Vegas the day those devices get delivered into Syria, how long is it going to take for an American airliner to be shot down? And that's morbid. So maybe they wouldn't be running that up on the front screen. But you can bet that there will be bets being, you can wager that there will be bets being made on that somewhere. So please, Mr. Snowden, run to our defense. I yield to you, Mark. Yeah, well the other thing here too is tit for tat. One of the things about the Ukraine situation, in fact even in Syria, already light air defense is in place across the board with regard to shoulder fired systems. So it's rather fascinating to me that the individuals that are obviously deploying in one side or the other, because they're already shooting at each other in the Ukraine, why it is the command couldn't figure out that somebody might throw a rocket up their arse, or that they wouldn't be a bullet magnet for small arms fired no matter what, because once, you know, again, you're in this quasi-boxing mode right now where there's been fighting on both sides, but it's been probing much like the actions leading up to the American War for Independence, where we had a selective always said, Lexington Concord was not the first time we shouted at each other people. In the year leading up, there had been action after action after action, not just in a small area, but across a fairly wide area of contact. Each of these actions were sharp. Each one created casualties. How whether or not there were any lethalities is the only issue. Of course, being stuck with something made out of steel back in the day, they didn't know what the word tetanus shot meant. You all understand that, right? See, that's something nobody talks about. It's like, well, they only picked him with a bayonet. Yeah, yeah, they ran him through his side, right? Didn't really pierce an organ, but it went through flesh. And, you know, they didn't really clean things or know about hygiene back in the day, not that they'd worry about a bayonet to begin with. You know what I mean? And they were made out of a real low grade steel or you know again a high-end iron basically, you know the equivalent in some areas depending on what it was. Malleable iron. So the thing is getting stuck with something like that. Well, you might not die today, but you know two weeks down the road, lockjaw. Well, there you go. Know what I mean? So consider that we're seeing the same situation, but when things cook off, see when you get arrogant, When you're not being cautious, you know, there's an area to a degree when you're facing off where you have to. You have to display. You have to deploy. But you also have to be ready immediately to be prepared to be in combat slash take cover mode. Remember, first rule, take cover, then return fire. Why? Well, chances are if somebody's shooting at you, they got an idea where you were or weren't they, didn't they? They figured it was a good opportunity to start putting bullets at you. Well, it might be a good idea to take cover just in case there are other friends with the same idea. See how that works? And, you know, any type of air activity or helicopter activity especially, well, especially for the Russians, they know this, the Ukrainian army knows this, they're the ones who built and used those helicopters for the last... For years and years, yes. Yeah, it's not like this is a surprise. So this is where once again, you know, it's the old story, you know, they're trying to puff up on both sides. Each one's trying to, you know, convince the other... Maybe you don't want to go any farther than this. Okay, how about if we will blunch your nose then they blunt theirs and back and forth and that's really what you're seeing right now, but this type of an error or mistake is one of those things that again cost management Especially experienced management if they're not careful now, there's a problem here because I will say also Good commanders lead from the front right they lead from the area of activity, which is yeah, what this guy was doing unfortunately He was just not exactly in a place where It was very forgiving if you got stuck there. You see what I mean? So that's one of the problems he did. They did, etc. And the rest is history. So kind of remind people when you look at some of these things, we also, as I've said, that's an MI-24. That's considered a flying tank. Remember that? We told you all about this. That's a flying tank! Yeah, so's the Apache. And how many of them relatively? Yeah. for something that flies. Yeah, it's better armored than the average bear. Yeah, how much does that Black Hawk or that Apache weigh, and how much does an Abrams weigh? Now, how can you put those two words together? A helicopter, a flying tank. And I'm not saying you, Mark. I'm saying this is what they try to project. It's like I was standing in the recruiting office one day, and the recruiter said to a young man there, nothing beats an Abrams. And then he looked at me. Except for something that finally shoots it. Yeah. Man-made, it will break. It's man-made, it will fall. It's man-made, it will burn. It's that simple. That's the one that you remember. And helicopters have to beat the air into submission. That's another thing we don't really talk about that much, but we need to remind everybody. Cello-opters beat the air into submission. That's how they work. Anyway, before we go any farther, we're almost to the bottom of the hour here at down, so let's do this. First of all, night vision technology, guys. As we know, in conversation with our guys deployed out there that night vision is being used, well, every night since the Bundy deployment began. So for all of you out there, I would remind you that having the technology in hand is a good thing, right? So I highly recommend that we kind of Well again promote the technology across the board Don does that he's got it available if you have any questions you can ask him Don if they do have questions How can they get hold of you and what do you have available and what changes are coming up with night vision technology, please? Well right up front how can they get a hold of you my phone numbers two three one seven nine six eight four Five eight again two three one seven nine six eight four, five, eight. Goggles are gun sights. Green screens are thermal. I got a piece of thermal in your mailbox for five dollars less than two thousand dollars. That's a tremendous price on a piece of thermal. I can... first generation gun sight, we've been talking about this one for a few months and a half now. A first generation gun sight in your mailbox for three hundred and seventy-five dollars. It's .308 capable. It'll live on top of your M1, on top of your AR-10. $375. If you want to talk to me about that device, my number is 2317-968-58. Goggles are gun sights. We've got a second generation gun sight right in your mailbox. 308 capable. 2 power, $1,300 right in your mailbox. That's a second generation gun sight. Now, again, 2 power. Either of the aforementioned devices will thumb screw down with the attached rail. onto your Weaver or your Picatinny rail, your 7-8ths or your 1-inch rail respectively. If you want to talk about that device or the thermal or a pair of goggles or a monocular or binoculars or even a green screen in second or third generation that is not an individual eyepiece, it's a little screen that's about two and a half inches tall and like five inches wide and boy oh boy that really... It takes away a lot of eye strain. Great for LPOPs. It's a big piece. It's long, it's heavy, but did I mention great for LPOPs? For lack of eye strain. And the boot on it, you think you look at it the first time, you think, wow, gee whiz, it's big enough to keep the light down. But the first time you look at it, you look twice and start looking for piano keys. At any rate, the boot will cover your head and keep the light down to next to nothing. There won't be a big problem with light discipline on that device. If you want to talk about that piece or a gun sight or goggles or binoculars or monoculars or thermal, give me a call. My number is 231-796-8458. Thank you, Mark. And again, why are you waiting, guys? Technology is a must. It's something we need to see in hand ASAP. Especially with the deployments going on, the next phase here, we're going to see the other Camp Bundy site. I don't know if it's going to be Camp Bunker. I think we've got Camp Bunker Hill. We've got the Gold Butte Camp and we're going to have yet another one set up here where they're already putting hardware on the ground. Property area is confirmed. They're just working out the details right now. Well, you're going to be out there. You're going to be using night vision. That's going to be a must and more people that have it, the better off we are. Remember, it can be used as a handheld fixture or it can be mounted on the weapon. Another cool thing we haven't really talked about, you got any old junk puncker stocks around that have been busted that can be glued back together, maybe it's a busted stock. Well, you glue it back together, make sure it's got a nice shoulder support on it, put a bipod on the front of the stock, go buy yourself a Picatinny rail kit from DealXtreme for like seven or eight dollars, it has about 10 or 11 different Picatinny rails in it. Mount another board to the stock where the receiver would normally be Then mount one of those picatinny rails on that preferably one that fits the board and fits inside the area You don't have to change or alter the buttstock but the idea is that you've put a bipod on it you got a shoulder stock on it and You can also just quickly mount your night vision to that the weapons site so that you can actually bipod support it It has a three-point contact because of the shoulder and it lines up perfectly with your eyes. So don't ever get rid of any gun parts even if they're broken. Because that rifle stock, you take a couple of through bolts, you run them right through with a, you know, just don't even drill the stock, use the existing holes, the existing fixture points on the weapon. You can either go with the screws nuts and bolts or you can put one bolt through the top of the piece of pine. Flush face of course, wood recessed wood, beveled recessed wood screw. Wood bolt and then run it through the bottom. Have another piece of board down below. Cut the same width as the stock. You can run your nut washer and nut there and it can even be a thumb nut if you want. You want to be too permanent. But then you put the picatinny rail on top of that piece of pine that makes up where the receiver would be. Your eye lines up perfectly. Your face has good control with that cheek weld to the Stockholm. And you've got yourself an observation platform for that LPOP. Yup. That's pretty straightforward. And again, you can also leave that on standby if anybody brings extra equipment in but they don't necessarily want to mount it on the weapon. Or, you know, they have different ideas. Well, here's a solution that makes it very simple, very straightforward. By the way, go get those. For a project like this, the paintball stuff, the really cheap fold down bipods only run about $6 to $8 to $10. That'll be just fine for your night vision support. See how that works? All of this can be tossed out and done with all junk that people are throwing away. It can be any kind of stock. You can use a WAMO, an old crossbow stock. Maybe you got laying around where it was busted. The stock is still there. There you go. It's got a shoulder stock. It's got the fixture down below and it's flat surface up above. So the only thing you might want to do is razor elevate your platform a little bit. So you add that extra piece of wood, put the picatinny rail on that, mount down scope on it. by just fixing it using the Picatinny rail. Guess what? You're done. Wow. And you can camo it up and do whatever you want. By the way, since you don't care much about it, you can make it green when it's green. When it gets brown, break out the spray paint and do it again. It's not a critical component, but it is a nice piece of equipment and you can make it look nice. Put a sling on it the whole nine yards, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Just figure, be creative, guys. Don't think inside the box. But always remember to take advantage of all the stuff that we do have out there that is available. Anyway, a couple of things here too, Don. There was another question. We were talking about thermal, entrance and thermal. Give everybody a review of that again because again, people have a hard time wrapping their mind around the idea that we might be able to actually afford some thermal. But it is out there, isn't it? Oh yeah, well, I've had people call already about it wondering if it can be converted to a gun site. I would not advise that, even on a 223, even on a 22. I would not say that, oh yeah, this will live on top of a 22, and for $2,000, that's an expensive experiment. But if you've got a first generation green screen, this is gonna be its next, this is gonna be its best friend in the mechanical world. This is gonna be the other half, you complete me kind of mechanical deal with any kind of green screen. because what the green screen will not discern for you, the thermal will. And what the thermal doesn't see very well, the green screen might produce still a picture, a discernible picture. I know what that is because I can see the shape of it. So between the two, you guys, there's a lot more information to be gathered from your surroundings. That's one way to put it. Now, this isn't a high cycle device. My gun sights start out at 30 cycles per second and go up to 60. And 60 looks as fine as any movie you've ever seen as far as tracking motion. 30 isn't bad. 30 isn't bad at all. You're watching somebody walk across the field. every minute, maybe every minute and a half, depending on how hot it is, the device will shut off for an instant. It kind of recalibrates, resets itself. For an instant, it's not like it's going to shut off and you have to, la-di-da, I think I'll smoke a cigarette or go see my girlfriend and it'll be back on when I, it's not like for an instant, for a small fraction of a second, the device will shut off and then it'll kind of cool down and recalibrate and it'll show you a picture again. Nine hertz. which is what the viewer is, $5 less than $2,000, cycles at 9 Hz. You're going to see a picture, you're not. You're going to see a picture, you're not. You're going to see a picture, you're not. If you're watching someone walk, you will have absence of information about every other step. You won't see him put his foot on the ground. The next two steps, you might not see him lift or you might not see the foot in the air for an instant as the device is shut off. It's entry level. But again, if you're just using it as a spotter or a targeting identifier, not to target on top of the gun itself, just to identify targets, it could be a whiz-bang product, something you'd really like to have if you've got green screens with you already. Five dollars less than two thousand dollars will put that device in your mailbox. Thank you, Mark. And again, now, here's... Okay, go ahead. Oh, I yield to you, sir. Well, the reason I was bringing it up again is we're looking at the idea that some people have spent $3,000, $4,000, and $5,000 on thermal equipment. They are deploying it. They've got it organized with their unit. I think everybody's pretty happy about that, where they've used it and got it into the field and it's performing well. The big thing is trying to find more and to get more out there where it needs to be when the time comes. And remember, even if it's not cutting edge, any older equipment you come across guys we're going to feel every piece of equipment that we can apply even if it's a sensor you know a sensor flag remember the ones they came up with years ago that were quite affordable it worked really quite well you can scan a tree line and you'll simply get a bit on a on a small LED readout and if you scan the area it'll spike or it identifies the target Now, the idea behind this was for game application, but remember that since people run around 98.6, it's not a problem figuring out who's who in the Zoom, what all's happening there. You all get the drift. So, uh-oh. Another thing that that device would be good for is if you're looking at a suspicious area with your green screen, first, second, third, even fourth generation, and you just... It's not enough picture to truly make you identify it, but you just can't turn away from it because it looks so suspicious. Bring up the thermal and confirm your worries or confirm your suspicions. Be it the indicator that Mark's talking about, Game Finder, I think they called them. They've been available for 15 years or so. But something that would offer you an image is going to give you a lot more information about where the target is. And as example, it might be a deer. and it might be someone sitting behind their automatic weapon. So if you get that blip, you know something's there. It's suspicion time. We need to get a little closer to the ground as we move through here. But if you can look right at it and confirm what it is, then you know what you're dealing with. That's a lot better than thinking it might be a gear. I'm not going to light that area up. So again, the Game Finders, they were like $300 devices. 15 years ago, weren't they? 249 to... Oh yeah, yeah. They were relatively cheap. It was the most affordable for the class for something that we could put in the field. And by the way, we experimented with both it and the military application or industrial slash overlap military application thermal when we were testing out the red out suits. And they worked very well. In fact, what we did is we put a number of targets in the field. The Red Out suits were out there amongst them. Nobody told anybody where they were. Okay, now turn and find the targets. And the Red Out suits did exactly what they were supposed to do. Of course, they still looked like giant gumbees if they moved around in the field or got Daleks with a combat uniform. But they worked. That's the idea. Now, that was generation one and generation two was tested the same way. So with on-the-shelf technology that we could expect to see, the Red Out suits worked. With expected military application, industrial thermal, they worked also. So again, this is one of the reasons we know more about these or have a pretty good idea. Oh, as a matter of fact, I want to say, by the way, MP, you want to say hi, just got a bling in the system. And so again, be careful on the way home. And we appreciate the work you're doing there, sir. The other thing about the technology that I can remind everybody is that there are pieces laying around you might find from the industrial end. Even if they're, I don't care if it's big and heavy. Okay, consider this. If you can acquire it for nothing because somebody's getting rid of it because that's old equipment, right? Guys, does it still work? Yes. Does it work well? Probably. They're just going over to the newer, more convenient, quote-unquote stuff. Well... Do you have the manual for it? It's always good to ask for the book. Can I get rid of that? Can I have it? Sure. Now the thing is, it's bulky maybe, but here's the way to do this. If you have a position, like we're talking about at the Bundy Ranch, deploying that in a key position, especially since it was a freebie or a semi-freebie, it works just fine. Putting it in a mobile platform so that it can be employed and deployed is perfect. By the way, if you have to abandon it, are you going to cry about it? See, so it serves its purpose in if the tool is applied in a certain application. It's like aircraft. They never get outdated. They just get changed mission. Yeah, that works. Okay. The P-40 was a very good fighter at the beginning of World War II. By the end of World War II, P-51 Mustangs were flying top cover for P-40s doing ground attack work. Yep. So, but wait, it was a cutting edge fighter in 1941. Yeah, it was a pretty good fight. 1938. Yeah, 1938. By 1941, the zero, it overshot it. But the idea is that from our standards, it was our frontline fighter. So, and with that being the case, we didn't toss any out. We paid for the parts. We paid for the manpower and the hours it took to get it there, meant that it was changed over and put into now developing technology applications. We perfected better air ground support and the way to coordinate it between the ground troops and the guys up above. Well, they gave them an aircraft that fit the application and did not pull from our air power. The right tool for the right job. Yeah, that's the same thing what we're talking about here. Well, that's an older piece of equipment. Yep, it is. And it works just like it did when it was built, doesn't it? Yep. Go five? Yeah. So it can carry bombs? Yeah. Send it into battle. It'll do it. Boom there you go and by the way get the hell out of Dodge just remember don't try and don't try and tit for tat with something You're not supposed to you know better. Yep. Y'all know that son So anyway the other thing here, you know, let's draw a comparison before we move away from that thought please Because you guys the grunt on the ground that p40 the top cover the 50 cals overlooking them need I say more That was one of the discussions about what was happening with the deployment out west is guys, it's not only what you saw, it's also things that were out of sight, out of mind that you didn't see. The bad guys knew about too, by the way. And it's for that reason that again, a lot of this technology, especially again, changes the dynamic of any night action, no matter where you are. If you have a defensive position in any part of the country, remember, your less mobile equipment supports the fixture, the center. with regard to operations, your best equipment goes to your mobile elements while they need it. Hey Mark. Yeah, go right ahead. How far apart are these other camps that you mentioned for me? I mean, is it all within Bundy proper or? Yes, they're all within Bundy proper except for Camp Larson, which is up range. But it still, it actually, let's put it this way, it observes whatever's happening at the main ranch. The other sites are all complementing each other by what I understand. We'll find out more about those. The next site is a five acre complex that they are working on right now. And that particular site is on the Bundy Ranch proper by what I understand. But it's another location that was available that has, you know, it has potential. We're looking at the idea that with all the different locations, what they've done is changed location because of the environment, because of the weather conditions. For instance, the 75 site that we originally used for an address, it has buildings there. But it's already, it's not summertime, but it's getting warmer already and it was already 95 degrees and they decided the buildings weren't the place to stay. Well, What they did is they moved one of the camps downriver to one of the bridge areas, so they're taking advantage of a combination of the terrain and overhead cover for the sake of a limited amount of respite from the heat. The only thing I see there, and thank you for bringing this up, because... Oh, let's see, hold on here in fact, I'm going to answer, I'll do it this way. But they're all pretty close to the river, right? No, not all of them, no. The one that's redeployed is a fairly large encampment, but here's the thing. With a PVC overhead canopy to offer shade using both the natural cover and the limited tree cover where you get closer to the water. But what needs to change is they use the blue tarps, okay blue tarps and all this blue stinking plastic that's being commercially pushed is Designed to be signeted from the air Okay, it's part of the old earth's program color signature, you know identifiers That's why all this car this garbage is in the industrial sector So when they want to spy rat on you for the zoning BS That's why you'll find that those medium bright blue tarps, that's what they're all about and all the other stuff they're building like this. What we need is to transition those out from Harbor Freight or wherever. Harbor Freight has had camouflage tarps in the brown range. They have any size you can imagine. 20 by 50. I've seen 30 by 60s there at the one here in Ypsilanti, Michigan a few years back. I haven't looked to see if they got them right now. But they had a good selection and they probably still have them that can be ordered. What we need are tarps of that size in a brown or can or coyote or in a brown camouflage. for overhead cover just to compliment the camouflage. Doesn't mean they don't know where they are, but it makes it a hell of a lot easier when you got a blue shoot me target on your head, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that needs to disappear. Anytime you need to be thinking colors when you're going into the field because especially since a percentage of our equipment, in fact a lion's share is all totally mobile. We could be playing musical chairs if we have a number of positions set up where one night the encampment is underneath one canopy dome and then the next night you could completely switch out everybody over to a second location. It's a really cool design. If you go to, let's see, well go to YouTube and punch in Bundy Ranch and go to some of the newer imagery that's been done in the last week or two because there's some pictures posted so you can see what I'm talking about. The images are from below or ground level looking out into the area they've built. The frames are cool, but you'll see right off the bat you've got two or three of the tarpulence that are, oh probably I think they look like they're either 15 by 20 or 15 by 25. And the rest is darker or camouflaged. The pipe is still left white. That should change too. They should be using some form of any kind of paint, house paint. One main difference, a little chip off. Out there it's drier than a popcorn fart. Who cares? What you do is you cover it with a color and camouflage it. Ideally colors that match the environment. I'm collecting paints right now for that. I've probably got about 50 gallons of paint to go out there. And that's not exaggerating. I'm going to go check on another 20 here that I can get for free. They're all browns, earth browns, earth pans, you know, like chocolate brown. There is a little bit of green, mostly in the loam green or the sage green. Now when we get out there, anything that we're using out there will be camouflaged. By the time I'm done, once we've got it, we're not going to be out there to play. We're not out there for a tailgate party. When we hit the ground, the only thing we're doing is working. We're not out there for a photo op. We're not out there to look pretty. Although we're going to make sure that everybody's squared away as far as our people go. But the idea behind it is that everybody should shower and shave, square all your stuff away, get some rest in advance. We're going to be straight out. We're going to hit the ground. The radio rig's going up. Quartermaster's going to be squared away. Certain positions are going to be improved upon and then they're gonna be taken over by certain individuals We are going to be giving classes and we expect things to be followed through on because we're not gifting this stuff for the fun of it So some buffoon can waste it right because I'm tired of that work at home Yeah, that's right. Go ahead repeat Everybody has chow the same mess chat and they go to their prospective camps later. Is that how it works? Well right now they're taking advantage of the central feeding location and that's where all the food just went. Well we just sent out a lump of food. We were hoping to do a little more but we found out there's another holiday somewhere we forgot about that has nothing to do with any of us but holiday for somebody else. That's not a problem. If we're lucky maybe the individual could stop in another bulk place on the way. I think buying a bunch of beans would be a good idea, but rolled oats, rolled oats, rolled oats, cheap rolled oats, 25 pound bags of rolled oats. The idea behind it, they've got some good women out there that are cooks. They know how to cook, they know how to feed these guys. They've been doing 60 to 80 people a meal. So, and I know not everybody's necessarily getting back in for the meals, and some are probably sneaking out and going to Pizza Hut or whatever, who knows. You know, the towns aren't that far away, but it's the idea that typically you're feeding about three meals a day, 60 to 70 people per meal. Mrs. Bundy was bringing it up on a butch pause program, a pasture, you know, a pasture pause program here over the last couple weeks. Talking to the girls there, they're running a little low on food in certain categories. So what I did is we just lumped up a bunch of pastas. A bunch of spices, some of our guys donated sugar by the 25 pound bag, brown rice, white rice, again, special concentrated items that were the best price for the most. And the idea is when they open it up, everybody goes, Mark, that's a lot of fill in the blank. No, it's not. Not when you've got 60 people eating it. It won't take long. So the big thing is we need to keep moving food out there or palatizing food if people are out in that neck of the woods and they're passing through. If you guys can just take bags, 25 pounds bags of rice and beans and oatmeal. Those are the staples, that's the foundation. Those cooks will make it look like whatever they want to. You know now another thing was gonna point out when our guys were shopping here, you know when they were buying, you know bags of stuff I got to point out when you get farther out west guys Don't worry about sending a Mexican cuisine from back east. Okay? Because Arizona and New Mexico Nevada, California There are whole sections that are nothing but Mexican or Spanish cuisine That'll put your whole grocery store to shame. Okay? So they know what real Mexican is. Yeah, they have real Mexican and they can buy it in quantity. When they have tortilla shells and you know all stuff like that, it's by the case cans and buckets if you want. And it's all, you know, again, it's all to spec and they know how to cook that. They live out there with that stuff. What they need is change up. So it's like what we did here. We bought Michigan potatoes. We bought Michigan Navy beans. Stuff that they can't get out there easily is what needs to be shipped to change up the menu This eliminates food fatigue. Okay, and it helps a lot If just getting the calories there everybody else gets their acting gear and we got other bugged said militia and it's going in Texas went in the other day by what I understand camp Larson which has colonial Marines We had guys come in from I understand Pennsylvania and New Jersey They're out there right now. So we've got a good number of personnel moving in. We need more hardware, but we need to be very surgical and we can't just dump it there to have it carried away. Some people just feel, well, I have a right to your stuff. And it's just not how it works. These are for the encampments. These are for the facilities. This is to keep this operation going. The bad guys have an unlimited bucket on the other side. We have to be surgical about how we provide supply and support and it's really eaten up a lot of our time I'm gonna tell you that right now guys Anyway, yeah, actually Well, we're a good. We're at a good point everything I I was told by the people out there don't send the gear. We had the radio equipment ready to go I was gonna save some weight and ship all of that but they said no no don't do that because it can't properly be secured that's true it can't yet now we get the radio rigs in place and rat rigs anybody touches I'll cut their I'll cut their hands off I'm sure I'm to the point where it's like now this is stuff in fact it's all going to be marked for the rat rig I know what to do guys military has done it for years everything's going to be color-coded if it shows up somewhere other where it's supposed to be I'm a kick someone's ours They all know not to touch it. It stays in there. You got all you need right here. Everything including spares and backups. It's all going to be right there. The operators focus on radio operations. Something happens. They hit a switch. They can go right to the next piece of equipment. It's all ready to go. And our friends in Chicago and our friends all over the country that donated other equipment, God bless you because I'm not going to throw that away and waste it. Now, I know we, and it's not wasting completely. Guys, when you're looking at the fight like at the Bunnies, it's like a beachhead landing. The more you can get in, the faster, the stronger you are. Exactly. The more you are secure of finishing, accomplishing your mission. That's the best way to think about it, guys. And that's why when people say, well, why are we sending food out there? Two reasons. Number one, you know exactly what you sent got there. In other words, I want to feed the troops. I don't want to worry about candy, toys, or whatever. I'm feeding the troops. And imagine if, like I said, I'm going to focus on this because we're going to have other events that escalate. Now here's where we need to plant the seed. I told you from the get go, every person going in should have gone in with 100 pounds of food. Imagine all those people who were the party hardy crew who were willing to buy pizzas and whatever, God knows how much money they squandered that way. You could have told them at that point just to spend $50 and they would have all spent $50. And if everyone had spent $50 and bought so many cases of food, you know, number 10 cans or so many bags of rice, they would still have pallets over there. One piece is $13. I mean, my God. Exactly. And you saw what they were doing. Oh, they had barbecues going. They were flipping burgers. Beef ain't cheap right now. And it was all fun foo-foo food, which is fine. I don't have a problem with that. But my point is when you got people that are willing to do that, most of them have more money than they know what to do with them in many cases. And for them, this was just a great excursion and a photo op. Now that percentage of the people were there I'm not complaining about but the point is the way that they can pitch in and since you've got them all motivated and they're all pumped up what they needed to do is ask them guys hey two things I need to do the Bundy's have a bunch of one-in pipe one-in-one inch pipe that got to be replaced you know what I talked to Ryan Bundy and he told me this he said yeah it's what we're doing is replacing all the pipes now Well, if everybody had been told, and you have 700 people there, we got all these shovels and we got all these tools, let's show those buggers who's boss and change this pipe today and put it back online. What do you mean, today? In an hour? In an hour. 700 people would be done. And nobody would have been sweating because it's Nevada. But it would have been a fun sweat. Think about it. And when they're done, they can say, yeah, I got my hands dirty out there. We show those BLM buggers. We put all the money's water lines back in. And we did it in three hours, man. We had water going to the cows in two. You see what I mean? Somebody did not apply their brain here. Everybody got a great posturing for the camera. Yeah, I'm here. Look at my upside down bird. I got my upside down Colonel's Bird. Look at me. My attack bird. OK. But but it was the idea. Okay. Well, it's great you're here. We're gonna get our hands dirty work work Yeah, well, we don't call it work. We're gonna call it revenge See, that's the thing get motivated now You know what after the first days revenge a lot of people will disappear from being able to talk You know be able to call out him, you know what I mean? But for the one day that you got him to do something. That's all you needed And psychologically it would be a total muck screw for the other side because they thought that they'd damage this and they'd eat up those other people's time. And instead you turn right around and you flip it on them. Not only did you fix it, but you put better in than what they had. You see? See, that's the kind of stuff we need to think about. You guys donated, you know, money to go towards the food, and I husbanded that, and also the equipment. I husbanded that, and because of it, we actually got three times what we would have gotten for the stuff had we just gone to retail. I got, we could have poured the money right into there and dropped it on them. they would go out and buy from the retail store. Well, we got three times what they would have gotten, and we got it there cheaper than any other way I could get it, even paying for a little bit of shipping, which was like, for every $100, we paid $6 shipping in material, right? But we got three times as much. So if they bought that three times as much at the store, how much would they have paid? So even with a little bit of shipping, we still saved money. and we got more stuff where it needed to be. Beachhead landing, throw more junk on the beach. Sergeant, we haven't got the artillery or just keep dumping it out of the landing craft and get it up away from the water. We're bringing in more, keep the troops moving. Macro motion, macro, macro. Put the next one in the water. Yep, don't worry. Once I get a tube on the ground, we'll start using these artillery shells or those mortar rounds. Boom, boom. See how it works. So it's still, I won't even complain about what happened because it's in the past. What we need to do is learn because we did well and we could do even better if we tweaked the machine. We need to tweak the machine. We need to be at a point where when they start rising up we stomp their heads down. We don't wait for them to grab the cattle. We're already beating on them when they try to cattle rustle. That's how it needs to be. They're going after the what? Ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba So just something to think about. We need to be prepared to get to the point where they're in motion, because they will be again. We need to be strengthening the Bundy site. That's the revenge cork for them. They've got to come back somehow. Remember that unlike Waco, see how people are still doing that? It's like Waco! No, it's not, because the first day we stomped them back, and the infantry were there where they needed to be. And they didn't come back right away and occupy right away that day where they came back and slank back in the evening and started a siege. That didn't happen this time guys. Why? My fault, your fault, anybody's fault. Someone's gonna shoot someone and this thing's going. That's why. And that's the only thing they should be hearing. None of this panty waste. Oh my gosh! Well of course we know what weapons they've got. Are you an idiot? Congratulations, you're on the modern battlefield. Get over it. Face up to it and realize you've got a job to do. Now, how are you gonna deal with a problem? I'm gonna wet my pants and flummox out my spine! Oh man, that smells... Oh, I don't want to touch it to put it back in for you. And I don't really want to, because you're probably just pooping out again. Oh, god. Oh, terrible. Anyway, you can use thermal in the daytime. Yes. Oh yeah, and don't forget that guys, especially in the changing environment we're looking at, we're going to have to apply the tools night and day. We don't use our night vision for that at all. We don't even use it to spot it with the peephole plastic guys. We have to husband the night vision to keep those tubes going as long as possible. Don your number for night vision please. God bless the republic. We are on a march, both day and night. It is 2-sign-8-4-5-8-2-3-1-7-9-6.