Mark Koernke discussed weapons procurement and tactical deployment strategies on May 14, 2014. The show focused on affordable rifle options including AK-47s, AR-15s, SKS rifles, and .308 battle rifles, with detailed pricing comparisons from vendors like Goose Island Sales and Classic Firearms. Koernke emphasized magazine acquisition and ammunition stockpiling as critical preparedness measures. The latter portion featured Don discussing night vision technology specifications and capabilities, followed by extended tactical analysis of defensive positioning, fire team coordination, and long-range engagement principles, with historical references to the Battle of Breeds Hill and Carlos Hathcock. Callers raised questions about military involvement in federal operations like the Bundy Ranch standoff.
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Well, it's a beautiful wet, rainy, gray day here and it's been raining spittily rain on and off for classic spring showers. Let's see if we have Don there real quick. Is Don with us? And a one and a two. And I believe Don is not quite there yet. We'll see what's going on. He should be with us in a while. Well, today's date is, as we know, the 14th of May. sixth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a 2014 old earth calendar or Mayan Crazy Town Crazy Town calendar that's right hey all you Christians out there worshipping the Mayan calendar what the hell happened to your brain number one you know over 6,000 different Mayan calendars produced it was a business an industry I keep rubbing that in for a reason. It was like marketing, guys. After all, who's going to try and pull your product? Oh, you know, you're predicting 485 years out that the end of the world is going to come by fire, brimstone, and a lack of underarm deodorant? Yes? Well, oh, Mukadah Akakanangangang says that the end of the world won't come until 572 years from now, and it'll be a combination of lack of underarm deodorant and bathing. Oh God, that would be a much worse combination. Yes, that's what will take longer for everybody to die, but it will be later, but it will be worse. You see, because, well, you know, lack of soap and water and then underarm deodorant, pole cats being what they are. Anyway, that and fire and brimstone. The fire and brimstone will be bad. The lack of underarm deodorant will be secondary, but you'll die in misery in the process, matching millions of people, unwashed. The uncleaned, the uncouth heathen out there. Unka, wonka, unka, ooh, yeah, whatever. Well, anyway, it is Weapons Wednesday. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da uh... there are a few other people have some pretty decent prices on eight days out there so you can shop around and you can find an a k for a little under five hundred or about might see a might be able find one for four sixty on up or down and remember you should be shipping all the other fun stuff that but we'll get a pretty decent package and a lot of uh... It's not like you would be running around naked without what you need to get the job done. Straightforward package with at least old 13, 16, 18 mags. That would be under a couple hundred dollars. In fact, it would be quite a bit less if you go to a couple of different locations. We pointed out one of them. Let's see if I still have it right here. Gooseislandsales.com. And I'm going to bring that up again before I get into the AR because that's the other direction we were talking about going and we're going to discuss that this afternoon. Let's see, here we go, www.gooseislandsales.com. Now why am I sending you there? Well, magazines guys. And if you're looking at magazines, I don't know if this number is accurate. I don't know if they're really keeping this page up to date, but they do have They have AR mags for sure, but let's get down here below. They have a nice little price on AR mags too right now. They are an odd man out. They are still saying I can't believe there is 132 of them in stock still. I can't. We would have to wait and see. I'm picking up a decent AK mag to stuff in the bag. $6 apiece and that's gooseislandsales.com. Gooseislandsales.com. Boy, I do hope that they're upgrading their page count here. $6 apiece and of course they have steel mags for $9. I would assume they're either Korean or Euro mags. I wouldn't carry the weight. Both are good quality. Both will get the job done. A piece that kind of indicates either Eastern European production in like the stands or in Romania, Bulgaria, or... And the East German ones, by the way, in the 30 round AK-47s were built the same way too. But also, again, the Koreans are building a copy. It looks like the darker phosphate finish, but that's the photographer's choice as to what he did with colors. So I can't count on the picture other than to say, well, they look like they're new. So $9 a piece for those and again if you're looking for AK mags, the thermold mags, you can put those in your dump bags. Fire and drop, fire and drop, fire and drop. Now I wouldn't do that right away if you were going to use them but you know what, $6 a piece, I'm not going to cry as much about dropping. It's like the 20 routers we were talking about in the 223 mags. These thermold mags, more inservicable enough, get the job done, get on the business. The next thing I wanted to work on today was, okay, we need a cheap AR-15. Now there's so many variations that of course you could build your own. We've of course talked about the whole idea of using ARIES, armors, lower receivers, aluminum or plastic, the plastic ones until they were attacked. We're the most economical solution. I don't know what's out there other than of course finished. And in the plastic or the polymer receivers, again the big thing there is that the polymer receivers are still readily available, but again you're talking about building something with paper on the lower. So it's a purely matter if you want to go with the aluminum lower receiver from Ares or one of the other companies, or are you going to go with a pre-manufactured lower and just start piecing it together or build a total gun, buy a total gun actually. Goose Mountain, or forgive me Goose Mountain, Gander Mountain would be the other one. Sorry about that. Goose Island Sales, they do have some AR mags that are pretty reasonably priced, but you're going to have to take a look. It's a flavor of the day thing. As far as I'm concerned with the AR mags, Everything and anything is invoked from one plastic to metal and back and forth. And I like the stainless steel with the dark anodizing or preferably with green anodizing. That's a good base color to work with and then modify accordingly. But there are a pile of other mags that are available for a reasonable price in plastic. And again, you need a certain number of dump mags. So I would prioritize with, say, 10 to 15 of the plastic least expensive mags available. and certainly is more than serviceable enough to use repeatedly but remember we're going to start piling up mags in two categories primary combat slash precision and volume mags and the volume mags typically are going into your what we call your breakout bag and so they don't have to be all that fancy you're probably going to use them once and you're going to drop them anyway that's the first rule if you can save them fantastic but Typically you're creating a wall of fire in a breakout operation so you're going to fire and drop them, fire and drop them, fire and drop them. Now you should be paying attention and remember if you're going to drop anything you drop it from the breakout bags before you go to your combat load on your vest or on your load bearing equipment, etc. Now the question is where could we go to get a decent AR-15 for a reasonable price? Well even again Goose Island Sales has a number of different rifles available. One of them that they do have, I mentioned the AKs earlier, well for about the same prices from classic firearms, they've got an AES-10 AK. It's the last one they have. $530 RPK length barrel for, you know, again, one. They have one available. So you really couldn't be going there for multiple replacement resourcing, okay? But there are a number of other weapons you want to take a look at what they have in the way of pistols rifles whatever they give you an actual count of what they have in stock They've got Glock Gen 2 40 Smith and Wesson's to be quite honest. This is a pretty decent price 375 dollars they have three of them in stock. I would figure that they're Gen 2 trade-in Cop shop guns so there's another 40 caliber solution for you by the way before we go away from gooseislandsales.com. But what we're looking for right now is we're going to try and put together an AR package. Now, right off the bat, you're going to need 22 mags. Now, where you pick them up? Well, they actually have a pretty good price on a number of different mags here at Goose Island sales. So we'll start there and say we picked our magazines up from that location. But where do we go for the rest of what we need? Well, www.centerfiresystems.com. AR.com has a number of ARs right there on the front page. Are they best priced? Well, actually not badly priced, although again we're looking at the $900, $950 range for these particular guns. So what if we were to go off the main page? What can we find sitting back here in the AR family of guns? that might be reasonably priced and actually not take a bite out of our wallet to the point where we're going, oh my god, where the hell did my finances go? And again, in the AR family of weapons or in the 223 class, although again, if you have a Sega and you already got one, guys, you got a 223 Sega, I wouldn't change out. I'd just be buying lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and by the way, lots and lots and lots and lots more mags. and then some more. Yeah and then some more and I wouldn't stop because the Sega's are as good as you get in AK and 223. You got the best of both worlds but magazines are what's pricey. So you're going to want to keep purchasing them. Now let me give you an example. They have high standard ARs in inventory and AR star models. Now what's the difference? Well about 30-40 dollars difference but you're still looking in the AR family at about 700 dollars. We should be able to bring the price down below that and I know that we can for an AR-15 pattern rifle. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of scouring the countryside. Let me give you an example here and I'll be quite blunt. If I were to the point where I'm thinking I'm going to spend $1,000 on an AR-15, why am I going to do that when I go right down below it? Look at this Don. I can get a PTR 91 and 308 for less or the same price. There you go. Now, I'm hating to tell you, here's how it works. I love the AR-15 as far as for cheap, and if it used to be cheap, no, not so much. Not so much. Bullet sure are light too. You can carry a lot of them. Yeah. But those bullets sure are light, aren't they? Yeah. So here's the thing. I can buy that HK91 PTR91GI with an 18-inch barrel. for about $800 or so, $850, and upper end is close to $1,000 depending on who's carrying it and how they got it from what supplier. But it's not the razor, it's the blades. Now, AR mags are running 9, 11. I mean, cheapie plastics are 9 if you can find them, and usually they're out before you can grab them. But 11, 12, 15, $20 a piece for mags for the AR. OK, that's fine. But I can still buy HK91 mags, German made, by German military manufacturers for $2 a piece. Now granted, I'm going to have to spend a little more money on that .308 ammo, but remember when I put it down range, if I hit them with one, I hit them. And I hit them farther. A lot farther. So much farther. So much heavier, yeah. Yeah, so much farther when I do smack them down, they're not getting back up right away. That's the balance. When I start looking towards $1,000 and it doesn't mean you can't spend what you want to on a weapon, congratulations. It's your wallet, not mine. Then I'm looking at a .308 rifle. Now otherwise, what made the AR-15 desirable is its cost efficiency. In other words, cheap mags, cheap ammo, and cheap parts. Not all of a sudden telling me, oh, they're all Cadillacs. Now, wrong. The Chevy model AR-15s should pretty well be hovering around the 550 mark or maybe a little more, maybe a little less. And again, there's Pontiac just a little above that Chevy, but not by much. Or below, but not by much. And then you got your Buicks and Oldsmobiles and then you go over into Cadillac and then you can get into those other categories where they give the AR-15 another name like Wundergun, Super, whatever, like M4. and then you can qualify it for stellar prices too. Now it doesn't mean there aren't different ways to build weapons. There are. It's the difference between a Chevy coming off a line made by General Motors and its size-specific counterpart made by Cadillac. Size about the same. More bells and whistles were made a little more interesting. They were made more unique. There are things you can do to gussy up the basic carriage. However, if you're looking for a working utility weapon system, all of them will get you dead, dead, dead. We'll put a target, a bullet into a target, knock the target down and keep it down if you do it right. So it's then a matter of, well, how much do you want to pay for your toy? and That's the whole point. How many people are you trying to outfit and balancing that out with quality? What kind of quality do we have in terms of product putting these together? Now, in the AR-15s, and again I was going to point out that if you look at center fire, there's an example. Cabela's, actually Kentucky's pointing out, let's see what Cabela's got there for their XM Bush Masters here right now. $800 to $1200 a piece. Well that's nice but again how many cheap or in the areas can we get for that kind of money? Let's see what we can find. And again the reason I bring this up we're going to go to www.classicfirearms.com. And it comes down to that if we're looking at the AR starting to break back up which they've been pretty well locked into the price range that they're at and where they're staying now And I don't see that changing dramatically. There should be piles of parts. Unfortunately, everybody did kind of take it seriously. Crank out a whole bunch of ARs from all those parts that we're laying around so while we even have military kits coming in They're now doing the well. This is a vintage classic AR 15 a un-16 kit from Vietnam era So you got to charge top dollar for all the chopped parts. You know our well chopped parts and tired parts, okay? Now again back in the day hundred twenty five dollars a kit for everything except the lower receiver guys That's back when the Vietnam War was right at an end and there were tons of those things still in service. Now they've piled them up otherwise and in fact both the AK and the AR are now a drug on the market in the render revolution industry. They are not a unique firearm even. In fact, let's go the other way, they have become dominant second and third world weapons haven't they? Well, when it becomes dominant, second and third world weapons, you're talking $50 a rifle out there on the market to maybe $150 depending on super evaluation or devaluation depending on how you look at it. Inflation or deflation. But the fact of the matter is that still for the price, these weapons are out there in their base form on a massive scale. So can we find a rifle or a .223? Well, classic firearms. Strangely enough, we went to these guys earlier today for the AK. They have air 15, M4 knockoffs. Basically it's car 15, whatever you want to call it, for $550 if you buy a couple of them. But $580 will get you the basic model. Again, the Panther DMS version, what they carry, about $599.99. Give me a break. Throw the penny in there. $600. There are solutions. One of the other options is the Delton kits. They are being sold by a classic firearms for $480 a complete kit with everything but a lower receiver. So if you want to flip a dime on another $50, $60 plastic completed AR or a $60 or $65 aluminum AR-15 lower, well again you're still hovering at about that $550 range. and that's more reasonable than looking at another couple hundred dollars spent on the same weapon. Personally the reason I bring that up is because the $200 you save going the other direction, that's $200 worth of magazines and ammunition, isn't it guys? And if I'm looking to outfit a person quickly and coming up with a complete package, I haven't put a dollar amount out at this time for a reason, okay? We could in other words if I had not you see before I could do this if I had $400 what could I go do? Well for with $400 you are hard-pressed to find something that is a magazine fed shoulder fired or even a Semi automatic weapon you can walk out there and buy the only thing right now that still is the most affordable But this ain't $50 a rifle days Is the SKS there are field grade A very good condition, SKS's for $260 plus or minus. If you buy one with a crack stock, you can get them for about $200, a broken stock, well, crack broken. And then you replace the stock for $30, $40 and you're still way below that other price of, you know, $260. Which means that for $400 you've got money to spend on ammunition. One nice thing about the SKS comes with a fixed magazine. You don't have to change that out. Just focus on ammo. Now you've got a functional, some-automatic 7.62x39 rifle with a 20-inch barrel that will pretty well tack drive out to 300 yards if you know what you're doing with it. Stripper clips come in handy. Yep, and again, shopping for those prices have gone up on the stripper clips because it's been a while since the Chinese brought any in. Don, this is something that's really obvious. I don't think anybody's noticed this. Even though all of these SKS's have been available from Yugoslavia or whatever, have you noticed guys that nobody's been bringing in any SKS stripper clips in volume? The Chinese did. In fact, I was pointing it out this morning, Don, that originally we were buying the stripper clips in the same kind of cans They actually transported them and shipped them and sold them this way. They were in two of the ham cans just like the ammo. And they're solid beds, solid blocks stacked one upon the other, upon the other, upon the other, upon the other side by side in oil and in groups of ten. SKS stripper clips. That's how we were buying them before. That's where the lion's share of all these stripper clips that we're seeing in the market come from that you're seeing today. Except that instead of them being like a quarter penny a piece from communist China, now they're typically a dollar a piece. But, considering, and the more you buy it cheaper they are, you can knock it down to 79 cents a piece if you buy multiples from e-circoinc.com. Now if we can find a better price, we need to know about it because I would recommend anybody with SKS, grab all those you can. But, again, looking at the prices here and the way the scale has, you know, the spendo meter has slid up the scale, You're still looking at having to knock down about $700 to put a complete AR-15 package together that includes the weapon, magazines, and you got to have some ammo. And if you bought so many mags, I would suggest at least buy enough ammunition to fulfill all the mags. Kind of embarrassing to have. I got 20 mags but I only got enough ammo to fill three. Which we can see happening. In fact, remember a year ago, everybody seems to forget that's exactly where everybody was. See how that works? But it's a reality in this day and age. Again, the balance is, as always, price of the weapon, price of the mags, price of the ammo. The HK-91s, again, they were as little as seven something when they were intro'd for the PTR-91s, actually just under 700, and they crept up to middle sevens. Now they're at the eight to middle nines, and they're probably going to stay there because they've established themselves. However, even for spending a little bit more, that $2 mag makes all the difference in the world and it's not a copy. The one thing that's the big seller for me on that is that is a German military mag and the Germans kick rumpus take names as far as their engineering goes. We can't argue that. And at the time, the HK91-G3 was king of the market. I hate HK, have no use for them at all. I think their most pissfully operation in terms of dealing with companies wouldn't buy anything openly from them and if it was made by HK. But if I can get the benefit of their production line, as in German surplus, and end up with a whole pile of German made high-end military mags for $2 apiece and I can put them in my rifle, I can have pretty good confidence that rifle is going to function first time every time. See how that works? So that's the only reason again. It's a great idea, otherwise they're stupid price, they're terrible to work with, they're not reliable for spare parts, they are terrible about attacking the civilian population for gun ownership, and they always do the, oh, but look at the goodies we make. It's like, you know, after a while I just shut them off. It's like, I could care less. I actually, although I understand and know what their weapons are, and I mean they've got the new G36 and all these other blah, blah, blah, it's like, I don't care. Because of the way they act towards the population, especially the pro firearms element in the United States, HK can go to hell. They'll sell their enemies, fascinatingly will us, and they'll do everything they can to deny us whatever they're selling to our enemies. They're about parallel with, and again, as low as Ruger used to be. And Ruger would piss on the American firearms on the left and right to lick the arse of the New World Order classic. And he never got him any major contracts. Please, please, please buy my guns. Yeah, exactly. And all to try and get a big government contract. The best he did was the Speed 6 and Security 6 because he was screwing all of us back years ago. They gave Ruger an Air Force contract for a revolver for the air police. I don't think many of those have survived as far as staying in service. I think they've dumped them in favor of other guns, purely because they pushed everybody more and more towards automatics. But that's about the only thing. I think they also had the Air Force survival, you know, like issued survival gun there for a while, in the, again, the Ruger wheel gun. But whether or not that's still in place, I'd have to look to see what the inventory is. And I think Rugers are pretty well, that's been what, 20 some years ago. It doesn't mean they get rid of them because they're outdated or exhausted guns. I doubt if the Air Force doesn't shoot that much. I'm sorry, they just don't. So the guns aren't worn out. It's just that somebody got bribed onto the table in the DOD to buy some other piece of junk probably from overseas. Again, the HK's are great, PTR 91 is better because it's American made, takes advantage of all those German parts made by the Germans who don't want to sell to us, but congratulations. If we go round about on them, we end up with a decent weapon system. Now I'm not throwing out the Vepers and all the others, those are a given. If you bought a Veper or any of the Sega rifles, guys, don't you dare get rid of them. You got into that weapon at the perfect time. It's that simple. If a lot of you guys bought the Sega's back when they were $200 a piece, why would you get rid of that weapon? And I mean, really, the same guns going for $520 in there is not a single stinking change on that weapon at all. So in reality, you could have bought two, and if you were doing right when we told you to, you probably did buy two or three of them for the price of what you buy one for nowadays. I'd say that's a pretty good deal. Why would you want to change that out? leave them just the way they are. But if you have the SAGAs and the Vepers, I cannot stress enough, buy more mags. Buy more mags. The Vepra 308s are 7.62x54 hours. I'd be taking that out to the Bundy Ranch. I'd put Don's night vision on the rail on one of the rails, and I'd put a nice intermediate to long range scope on the roof of one of those 23 inch or 28.5 inch Vepers. and God help you if you got in front of me at 1200 yards. Seriously, those are attack driving and close enough, let's put it this way, I will make you go to ground and hopefully we'll take a chunk out of you, okay? But at the very least, can make you worried enough that you're not gonna stand around and wait to see where any of those bullets hit. And if I do it right, that first one's going to get somebody and after that nobody else wants to be number two. See how that works? Everybody has to start taking the ground. If I can take my enemy to ground at 1,200 or 1,000 yards when they expect to engage at no more than 220 yards, they got to do a whole lot of fire maneuver to get close enough to do anything to me. Yeah. It's a whack of mole time because they got to stick their head up a whole lot. A whole lot. Exactly. So just take that into consideration. MBRs in the desert are superior. Period. There's no way they can argue against it. But Mark, when they get closer, when they get closer, I've still got a big magazine if I need it. But guess what? How many of them got closer? You see the point? If you're aiming, if you're actually working your weapon and you're working your fighting positions and you work deep and work back to your strong central control, by the time that you fall back to your third, fourth, or fifth shooting position, What's cute is you're falling back on an umbrella of your entire battery of weapons. So by the time they, having been a fire and maneuver element that doesn't have any coolie, there's no Chinese coolie behind them. How many mags are they carrying? How much fire do they have to try and use to try and suppress you while each bullet you put down range is doing damage? Think about that. and again is also consuming energy for the price of 1308 you can put a 10 man squad to the ground let's think about this and their policy is right off the bat spray and pray with the 30 round magazine and you know we're all we're gonna fire all you know over there and then everything goes quiet for a bit why because well they're changing mags number one Then they reload. Then you put another bullet in there now for the first cost. We'll go modern expense. $0.65. I just put a whole squad to the ground. They probably put a hole in somebody and he's not feeling too good because the first shot really counts. Then the second shot doesn't engage, but it's close enough that it lets them know I have a good idea where you're laying and you're not getting up without me putting another bullet in you. So they can't just figure they can stand up and continue what we call traveling. Now they have to do what's called Overwatch. And this is where they actually have to cover and try to suppress while they're moving. Well, every time you move you're eating up ammunition. Now I will say again, do you see a Chinese koolie dragging around by a leash behind every one of those troops that are in front of you? So, for another 65 cents, I force them to crawl their way or to move and bound and consume ammo in how many rounds per bound, how many people are engaging, how much of the squad is firing. Now, this is just one man by himself. And by the way, I'm not by myself. Because after my third round, I'm moving and while they're still, you know, they've got good confidence, they've got a fixed location. My second rifleman is hitting them from an oblique and just took somebody else down because he had a good comfortable angle of approach and he just took the butt cheeks out of one of their fools who might have been a radio operator, team leader, squad gunner, who cares? When everybody's expecting fire from the north and they hide behind something to the south, it's kind of easy to hit them from the east or west. Ouch! That hurt! Now, the thing is that you can actually pull a fire maneuver element into a process or into an effective kill zone by dancing them like this. But here's the kicker. Why do I have to have just two riflemen? Why don't I have a whole fire team, five men with spotters to make a whole squad? If I have a whole fire team out there with a spotter, one man each, so that's 10 men, and each of them is stationed center, left, and right. and literally I can pull back and forth at maximum range. Now every time that I create that second shot verification you're going to receive fire. So you assume that you better be under cover. But remember your bullets traveling farther, theirs are golf balling into an objective, you have picked your shooting positions based upon effective cover. So whatever does come in can't get you anyway. See how that works? The only thing that they might out of desperation try but at 1,200 yards is not a happy camper scenario is A, to use a 40 millimeter grenade if they've got somebody who might golf ball something in and even they're not likely and not going to happen with any effect. The other is wasting in any tank ground but I would point out again, do you see any Chinese coolies there? If you start trying to snipe with a viper or with something that's shoulder fired, you're wasting heavy ordnance on a mobile position that is not a fixed, permanent position. So it defeats the purpose behind carrying that heavier ordnance. Again, every one you fire is one you don't have when you really need it, you get a lot closer. See how that works? So there are other math formulas and there's always something everybody will pull out of their arse. Well, we don't have this. Well, no they don't. We're looking squad at squad. By the way, it's not the only formation in contact, especially in the Bundy Ranchen era. There are going to be so many variations on how that could play out. We're just talking about the idea of how do I apply my MBRs? How do I apply my main battle rifles? Now here's the thing. At night, we're still looking at greater accuracy, greater range, and greater penetration when it gets to where it's going, even if it's closer with night vision. You still have the ability to put a heavier, bigger bullet into the soft, chewy stuff behind whatever they're carrying in the way of armor or whatever they've got in the way of protection or even just the gear they're carrying. You're going to get through and a lot of delivery energy goes into tissue and that's really what we're looking at here guys. So the MBR is the first choice. It is your first best choice for a deployment of this type. Now, don't panic if it's like, man, all I got is an AR. Well, then that's what you're taking with you. But remember, you need to work in a combined arms team, guys. Your heavy rifles, your bolt action deer rifle is still one of the finest weapons. Take it with you. It's one of the finest weapons you can carry into that environment. Have you not killed Bambi every year? Have you probably not killed Bambi for 20 years in a row or at least every other year or whatever year you got one? Anywhere from 40 to 400 yards, yes sir. Yeah, and you already know where it hits. In fact, here's the thing, when you get out to the desert, you know what? They've got a lot of places to shoot. So if you've ever wondered, what can I do at 1,000 yards with this scope? Well, why don't you find out? See how that works? Why don't you find out? You're in an environment where you can. Congratulations. Try your luck. Or shall we say, develop your skill. See, none of this is a vacuum, guys. Every time you get into a situation, remember, what can you pull from it? What can you draw from it? What can you develop? So again, that's one of the most important things that we need to take into consideration. Now, before we're going farther, and boy, I think it won't work. We've been talking for a while. Don, you have night vision technology. It can go on top of that VEPR. It can go on top of that SEGA. At AK we built in the morning guys has a rail for Don's night vision. Anything that we have out there guys if it takes a standard rail or it takes a picatinny rail in any configuration has the ability to adapt to night vision. Don has it. Don, how can we get a hold of you? What do we have available? And what changes are coming up in night vision please? Well in the first generation department it will all be a white screen soon so this is a number of times it's like the green screen in first generation get it while you can because white light on your face at night is not really a tactical service to you. I've still got that first generation gun sight 375 right in your mailbox. That is 308 capable. It will live on top of your AR-10, on top of your M1. We can do that same performance parameter in a second generation device or a third generation. Again, that first generation device that is a 308 capable magnification. You guys, we've talked about magnification at night. Most of your ranges are going to be closer. And the more glass you put in front of the image intensifier tube, the night vision tube itself, the less light gets to the device. And you're working with a minimal amount of light to begin with. This is why you don't see 22 power night vision like you do daylight scope. That's a basic rule of night vision. In minimal light, photographers know about this. The more glass you use, the thicker the glass they call it slower. The slower the glass, the less light gets to the night vision tube. The less light gets amplified. 2, 2.5, 3, 4, 5, sometimes 6 power you can get away with if it's in front of a third generation device. But if you've got 6 power in front of a second generation device, there are a number of bodies out there that offer that, a number of devices that you can fit either a second or a third generation tube into. And because it will take a third generation tube, they move up to 6 power. And because it's a 6 power body, they'll offer it in second generation also. We've done the measures, you guys. If you've got any moon in the sky, you're happy with your first generation. When the moon goes away, you'll be itching to turn on your illuminator. But if you've still got stars in the sky, you'll still be happy with your second generation. When the clouds come in, if it's a pretty thick pile and you don't have any city or any other supplemental light to reflect off the clouds nearby, you're going to be itching to turn on the illuminator on your second generation. but you'll still produce an image on your third generation. It'll be shorter, granted, but when you have a sixth power in a second generation, by the time the moon gets low, you're itching to turn on the illuminator. Because again, you've got a lot of glass in front of the tube. We try to keep two to four power in the night vision, in particular in gun sights. You'll see a bigger front lens. Generally, you'll see a bigger front lens on a gun sight. They want the most performance out of a gun sight that they can get without becoming obtrusive or you have to mount it 4 inches above the bore. Now that first generation gun sight is still available right in your mailbox, $375. My phone number is 2317-996-8458. Again, 2317-96458. Now if you're looking that world if you've got a piece of night vision already and you're looking to upgrade in the in the pro-jectile department like you know move up to a bigger bore. Larry Watson's the cheapest upper on this continent right around a thousand dollars. They've man they used to be like 400 bucks but you know supply and demand and all of that but right around a thousand dollars Larry Watson's got an upper for around 2300 Larry Watson has a true bolt action 50 caliber. You know, a BMG round, send it down range one at a time. Larry Watson's number at Watson's weapons is 9524721010. So from here on, it'll be 10-10. Again, 95247210-10. Larry might even answer the phone. But if you're looking in that direction or go to watsonswepons.com if you don't want to bother the man and you want to peruse the product, hey, go and check out the prices for yourself. After you're done looking at his bolt gun, look around in the rest of the world and how much does a 50 caliber bolt gun cost from everyone else. So again, you could call it the cheapest, but you could call it entry level also. It's not a bad gun at all. the tactical crest of a ridge. Again, how would we best employ the 50, overlapping a fire team or a squad? Think guys, that we don't have to be online. We can actually have a support weapon behind a combat or an infantry line and provide base of fire, you know, placement shooting across the whole front, can't we now? Well, when you can shoot a mile and the bullet is still supersonic, you know it's still accurate as you are, well, it's good to see that mile and farther. We've talked about acquiring your targets before they move into range. That way you can, well, adjust in any number of ways. Move to, wait, build position or flee. We've talked about that. There's not a whole lot of reason to address that right now. But you guys trying to send that 223 down a mile away, it's like, well, it's raining over there, but it's like marbles dropping from the sky from about 30 feet. That's all. Now, when you've got the horsepower to reach that far, you look at the other guns, like 223, you look at that as support for you. I don't talk down to it. Mark, you asked for the arrangement here. If I can get some high ground slightly back from my people where I'm looking over them safely, 10, 20 feet above them, even if they stand up and receive anything from me, I'm going to look for a position like that. When I start to get to higher ground, I'm going to look for a place where even if I have to dig a little bit, I'm not on top of the hill. So when I move my head it's not perceived, that motion isn't seen, or when I re-bolt the gun, put another one in the chamber, that's not profiled behind me farther away than that mile. Now, you're looking at, and you talk about driving groups of people, you guys, the classic example of that comes in the account from Carlos Hathcock and his spotter. I think Burke was with him. at that time. I could be wrong about it, but I think Burke was with him. They were in the right place and watched the North Vietnamese regulars. They had uniforms on and everything marching down into South Vietnam. Well, they got them in just the right place and started to shoot the people at the front. When everybody turned and started running that way, they started to shoot the people at the new front, formerly the rear. Everybody turned and started running the other way. They kind of contained them there for a moment until they all went on to ground. They are shooting at areas they think the fire is coming from. They are trying to make motions, but when they get up, you shoot the guy in the front and the people behind them see him fall. They tend not to want to run to that area. So they run back to their cover. Hathcock and Burke did that to that particular company, eliminating most of it over what was that mark, a one and a half or a two and a half day period? Now, granted, they had artillery calling in star shells and keeping things what one might call lively at night, but they did it. That's one example of driving people, but kind of driving them and keeping them in the same area. We're going to keep them in the zone out there in front of us, and they move that way. We kind of bump the far end of them and make them move back to where we want. Now, this guy that was commanding them apparently didn't have a whole lot of brains. to think to simply move them down range against the shooter instead of moving them across his range. He should have at the very least sent some to each flank and some to the rear. So you know you're moving to the rear, that's a constant changing range which becomes a shooter's challenge as compared to someone running across your field of view and all you have to deal with is lead. Because if they're running across your field of view, basically the range is consistent. If they're running ever so slightly, the range might not change that much. At 1,000 yards, a range change of 10 or 20 yards is of no consequence either way. At 1,000 yards, if the target is running across your field of vision, if you've already got that zero, you need to be concerned with windage and lead. But if someone is moving directly away from the target, you're constantly concerned with that 20 or 40 yards of range that the bone is in when that bullet is coming down from the sky instead of traveling across the ground, so to speak. We get a little bit weird into picking a bit of history apart there. If I can overlook an area that my people are lined up in front trying to keep the short range people from getting to me, I can work on them all day long, the people beyond my line. In particular, if you're going to deploy behind the lines, if you can gain higher ground, that means you're going to be able to see better than the guy down. You're going to be able to see beyond him. These are basics, you guys. We've talked about the military crest so many times that it's pretty hard for people who listen regular to a hill instead of walking around and around the hill as they, you know, instead of traveling in a straight line. We've addressed that problem when it comes to the area of the Bundy Ranch being rolling. Oh you guys, there's a number of different ways, but when you think of circles, like, think of like a bullseye, the immediate center being your group and the first and second rings being their ability and the third fifth and sixth rings being the ability of the heavy gun. If I even have to back up to where I'm a third of my range, my able to stay supersonic range, in order that I get a place that I guarantee that I can shoot level across my people and even if they stand up and stick their hands up in the air, I'm not going to touch their pinky. If they stand up and stick their hand up in the air and a rifle too, I'm not going to touch the tip of their rifle, I'm real comfortable shooting across them. but also I have that ability to over watch them to see things perhaps that they can't see. And when you can do that you can drive people into your forward people's killing zones too. You guys we've tried to develop this and we're almost at the top of the hour here, but sit down and look at a map. Sit down and look at a map of your area and draw an X where you want to be. You don't have to draw an X. Get a piece of clear paper, draw an X on it, lay it over the map. Now you can move that X anywhere you want. You still haven't marked the map, but you can still see it. Imagine a fight on that map. Imagine 10 fights. Imagine 100 fights on that map. Now, everyone's different, isn't it? Because you're not imagining yourself into any pigeonholes, are you? Imagine scenarios where you lose. Just in your imagination, they are on the map, as many as where you win. By imagining the scenarios where you lose, you see opportunities to increase your ability and to avoid that loss. Most people can't grasp that. I win, I win. In every plan, I win, I win. If you build plans where you win, plans where you lose concurrently, plans where you win, plans where you lose, you learn to eliminate the plans that you lose in. These are basic things, aren't they, Mark? This is something we've talked about, I mentioned in the morning, and most people are going to brain shock about the idea that it is the mission of a war college not only to teach you how to win, but to teach you how to lose. In other words, to not be defeated by a, again, the other side has more resources. How can I engage and extract myself? There are different levels of what we would perceive as a defeat. And in many ways, if you place your brain properly in, if you put your mind in perspective, it is not necessarily a loss. In fact, it can be an intentional action. Just as on the battlefield you appear to be allowing for the aggressor as we talked about at the individual level. Falling back or losing ground because obviously your enemy is just so overwhelmingly superior with regard to maneuver and operation. When in reality what you're doing is pulling your enemy into a pre-designated kill zone where the best of your weapons can actually engage and become superior in terms of performance or they're at their optimal performance with whatever you have. Well, it's kind of like Bunker Hill. What everybody calls Bunker Hill was actually the Battle of Breeds Hill. At Bunker Hill, remember, yes, they did finally take the temporary objective, but as the British commander said, one more or two or more or three victories like this and we'll lose the war. Why? Well, it's because, again, and this is the sad part about Bunker Hill, had the patriots If they surged forward properly and reinforced the position, they would have created devastating massive casualties for the enemy and still controlled the heights and still controlled the defensive position. The enemy would have had no choice to extract itself from the position. It could not have stayed. Now, the next option is the forces that were in place had to retreat. the second line held in place, in other words, didn't move forward the way it should have to support. But the end result was still basically the same with regard to the actual mathematics at the end of the action. They could claim a technical victory because they could plant a flag and a piece of real estate. But what were the casualty ratios? How much blood was actually spilled? Who lost more? So, trying to claim it or pull a victory out of your arse in a situation like that, again, doesn't work. The math formula was obvious. In fact, an excellent write-up down here, and we haven't really touched on this, it was done by the Sipsie Street Irregular as one of the gentlemen writing for them there. talks about the idea that basically the mindset of the American Revolution was won within the first year of the war with Bunker Hill, with the whole action and how it took place. Because it created a very different mindset, much like the arrogance level that we see in America right now with the police state, as opposed to the reality of confrontation in the event anything like this develops. So this is a question. Go ahead, caller, jump in there. Do you guys think the military will be actually assisting the FBI in those types when they come back in? Yes, they have no choice. They'll disguise them, perhaps. But we have to assume. I believe they were there from the beginning caller. I believe that's who you saw. There's only two options with those characters that were handling the dogs. They're either military or they're foreign. That's why they had the beers. Remember I pointed it out from the beginning. This is no different except that they needed to have Homeland Security running with the ball and in particular they needed the dweebs that we call BLM to create the impression that somehow they have some kind of potential for victory. The logic behind the action was that all the training from behind is a combination of paramilitary, mercenary, regular military, and secret police state, which is what homeland security is. It's the secret police police state. This might be why we saw a third uniform. We see a uniform for the Bureau of Land Management. We see uniforms for the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines, but the uniform we saw deployed was a third uniform, wasn't it? I'll tell you what, that's a good question. Call if you want to stick around and stay right there. Donnie, maybe we'll stay around for just a few minutes. I can listen to the couple minutes, Mark. We'll be in for just a few minutes, guys. Stick around, Don, because we want to just elaborate on this for a few moments more and we'll get back. We're going to take a break. Your number for night vision, Don. That number is 231-796. 84580. HempUSA.org urges everyone to plan ahead for possible food shortages in the future. We offer this dense nutrient-storeable food directly from the farm to your door. What the world needs is our energy-packed hemp food in a storeable, portable form that can easily and quickly be picked up for travel. This food contains readily available protein, amino acids, essential fatty acids, digestive enzymes, and major minerals. Visit HempUSA.org or call 908-691-260-8. and with prices rising in every sector, the investment in your future is critical to have some storable food available. It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark, so be practical and be wise. Call 908-691-2608 and place your order today. 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