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Dill the land of the free and home. Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Krunke one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and northeast. Well ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on LittleLibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. We are on AM&FM micro stations CB base stations and ultra net technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the homework network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico headed Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third, the fifth, and our friends in the recall state of Colorado. Don't forget the nine sisters up there on the left side of Wyoming. Speaking of left, way out there on the left coast we have the great state of Jefferson. along with the rest of our friends building up California militia in the south and reinforcing Camp Larson right outside of the Bundy Ranch not too far away within air defense, fire distance and coverage to overwatch the area of activity. Response and reaction units are now in place to support the Bundy Ranch should anything happen there. And again, insurance policies and Long range deployment, good practice gives everybody a chance to work at what we, you know, practice what we preach and work to support the Bundy Ranch. We have just, of course, sent a whole bunch of material down range and hopefully it will land in their backyard here in the next 24 to 40 hours. We'll see what happens. Driving time is going to be interesting. We're going to get this down to a math science with regard to shipping. and delivery of personnel so that is again going to be a known. Needless to say it's a time lag thing. If they were attacked right now you guys locally in the area of activity around Nevada, Utah, Arizona, you're the ones going to have to deal with this if something develops. We can't do it. We're going to be able to send material support as long as we can to build up strength and everybody should be doing it around the country symbolically. But again you guys on the ground there are the ones gonna have to fight that aspect of the war as the bad guys decide to go stupid same is true with Arizona Texas and all the other locations where the BLM was supposed to go out and rape kill pillage and burn for the communist Chinese Turning back to the east we sweep across the plains leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and land of the smoky slash the Blue Ridge Where the restaurant crews grandma teams okay teams in the mob belt crime consortium bring us the Golden Spike many hands make for light work a million petticoat Junction operators, the ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. That's your job, guys. It is a beautiful, warm and muggy day with moisture just sitting on the ground. Look at all that wealth! Fresh water! People would be begging for that. In fact, there are people begging for that and other people pissing and moaning about not having it. So don't you ever complain about fresh water. Never. Never. no matter what it is, snow or liquid precipitation hitting you and hoking you to the bone. I know it's wet and cold, so we're supposed to have rain gear, that's what it's for. What'd you buy the umbrella for? Oh, so you could leave it in the car so it doesn't get messed up. Ah, that kind of failed, didn't it? Anyway, it is... the 13th of May, it is the 6th year of open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with the K2000 and 14, Old Earth Calendar or Mayan Crazy Town, Crazy Town Calendar. Now, I want to address something real quick. For everybody, number one, the site out west is Camp Larson temporary. I think that's one of the things we need to qualify. What are the reasons? We have a new facility coming up here in Michigan. Remember we talked about this. The site is being built. I'm constructing walls for the Urban Warfare variable geometry training site. In fact, I've got boards cut. I'm going to start nailing things together again. Using up materials because we've got more materials we need to pick up. Camp Larson here in Michigan, which is a Colonial Marine facility, is going to be opened up this summer. I don't know what the date's going to be. Guys are already training there, but we're going to kind of like have an official ceremony once we finish the rest of the buildings. It is a really nice facility. It's going to be a CMM facility sponsored, but everybody in the militia is going to be able to use it. So, that is an up and coming event. Don't confuse the two. There was a decision. Dan Larson, Captain Larson was one of the individuals that helped me to build the op-for forces to the extreme guys and helped to deflect the bad guys by moving energy in another direction intentionally. We did a lot of work. I mean, come on, Prior Piper Planning prevents piss-poor performance. Dan was with the First Special Forces, second detachment on the ground in Vietnam. He had, in fact, a phenomenal history photograph, you know, photographic history alone that's worth a series of volumes on the early early history of the vietnam war when you didn't know where vietnam was if you were alive most people like home well southeast asia is not indo china yeah that was called indo china back in the day and uh... for everybody out there again uh... capital arson helped him uh... develop and build up up for training command and of course second op four was our baby Along with 3rd Op 4 which we had to expand, 4th and 5th Op 4 were our field and expansion commands that were working all through the Midwest and all the way up to Wisconsin. Fort McCoy, Wisconsin, Fort Riley, we had personnel that were running with Op 4 that, uh, I don't want to see all the way down to Fort Sam Houston. We gave classes at Fort Sam Houston. Let's see, Fort Benning, Fort Knox, in fact we actually ran the armor up at Fort McCoy, Wisconsin. The aggressor armor that was available, which by the way was all Russian. In addition to that, needless to say, Fort Custer Camp Grayling, Sulfurage Air National Guard Base, we gave classes there. Most all National Guard Reserve and active units in the Midwest and specifically in Fifth Army We, at one point or another, had contact with and developed extensive support through 70th Division, which the bad guys dissolved and moved because of their fear that 70th Division was a Patriot Division. Well, guess what? All those people went somewhere else, which meant we were able to work with people all through the system and continue to expand, after all. I trained a lot of people in the 70th, the 301st. Let's see, oh that's right, 40th. What about the 156? Yep, that's the biggest signal battalion by the way. The military and the guard sat quietly and did their part to build up and build up. We've taught a lot of people and when they've gone to other units because they've moved things around to try and mish-mish things, what that did is allowed us to very quietly move all of our people into a dozen other commands. So across the country, you guys keep up the good work. Remember, Captain Dan was one of the many people, of course, General Larson was able to, he was a captain back in the day, guys, Vietnam and also the Dominican Republic uprising. There's some really cool photography he did with the Dominican Republic uprising in the 60s, early 60s. By the way, the Dominican Republic uprising is where the M16E1 was truly first deployed. Not the M16, not Vietnam is most of you think uh... look up and find images of the Dominican Republic uprising remember that this was a communist operation the uh... what's best best thing is once everything was done with all the bs literally the whole management crew which were all ba basically cia communist are were packed up with the plane and flown wherever they want to go and they did 707 back in the day guys 707 yeah remember there's a song 707 yeah Boeing 747 government run operation across the board and family and management and everybody were just picked up moved right out once they got what they wanted out of the Dominican Republic uprising scam rest is history but the m16 e1 was first deployed there as a matter of fact along with several other interesting weapon systems to include at the time a much younger version of the Antos, which had a very notorious history in deployment. You might recall the Antos was a multi-banked, recoilless rifle system that was mounted on an independent carriage. built just for the Antos and it was really neat because the whole package, the Antos system, actually offered a lot of firepower. And you might recall if you remember the Marines using the Antos in Vietnam in both its intermediate model or its earliest model and then the 106 recoilless rifle configuration. Prototype Antos was in 75 millimeter recoilless. A lot of our guys trained on that and are very familiar with and in fact gave us some ideas for some of the stuff that will be coming out of the woodwork when the time comes. You're going to be cool guys. What is that multi-barreled thing? It looks like something out of Command and Conquer. Well, Command and Conquer got their ideas along with a lot of other stuff you're seeing in most of these Sci-Fi things from reality, guys. So just something to think about. Anyway, Captain Dad, we're honoring him that way. We've got Don with us here, by the way. It's like magic. It'll make your opponents disappear. Yeah, one of the cool things. Imagine a 106 RecoLis rifle guys with what we call beehive. Okay? Now just take that and multiply it by 6. And if you're familiar, see that's why the Antos was shall we say very popular during the, you know, a number of different operations during the Ted Offensive. because it took a minute to reload but you didn't have to when you had six of them. Not right away! We're talking 106mm recoilless rifle. Think about a 105 tank gun. Just think, recoilless rifle in an arced bank on the top of a tracked vehicle that was very small and nimble. You can almost include it in the category of nuclear weapons and hand grenades. Very close. The only thing is, here's the other thing about recoilless weapons, which during the Dominican Republic uprising somebody found out about because they weren't really thinking things through. Remember a recoilless weapon, the reason we call it recoilless, there is what's called a back blast. So it's very dynamic at the launch point. That was the one thing about recoilless weapons or, you know, for instance, RPGs, laws, rockets, vipers, guys, when it goes forward, there's something that shoots out the back, man. Don't be lined up with it and don't fire it in a room that's really closed up unless you've got everything open and all the doors down the hallway and even then you better have earring protection, kid. And a gas mask. Oh yeah, it's not going to be fun for you if you don't have everything squared away. You better be thinking in advance when you start employing these anti-tank weapons in built-up areas. Everybody deals with this and nobody understands. And they do it intentionally so you'll be totally caught off guard. Movies, of course, have done this over and over again. Yeah, he just picked up that RPG and he's standing inside that closed room and he pulls the trigger. Yeah. So basic action and reaction off the top of my head, I'd say somewhere between 50 15 and 25 percent of the charge is burned immediately to get the device going. The faster it goes, the less charge it needs to go faster. Remember, you also don't stand right behind it looking at your operator going, �Hey, what are you doing, Frank? I�m going to watch you.� I�m going to bore sight this for you. Yeah, it�ll be the last thing you do. Probably the best example, although it�s again, for most people, this is why the movie was impressive, Band of Brothers, In reality, it shows a lot more of how things really work and there's an image and it was actually used for the promos. I know they did it for a reason because anybody who actually fired the 2.35 inch rocket launcher, which everybody calls a bazooka, the original one was smaller, the next size up was 3.5 and that's a copy of the German panzer Shrek. We didn't think that went up, we just copied the German version. We made our 2.35, the Germans made a 3.5. Well, in the movie you'll see where they're going after a bunker, one of the infantrymen is. It's in the Black Forest where they're doing this, but he fires and he rolls forward, actually rolls to the left, or moves to the left, forgive me, drops down on a knee, takes aim, and fires. Well, when he does this, pay attention to what happens behind him. It was one of the most accurate depictions, and I don't know if it was CG or if they did it with demolitions, but however they did it, watch how he splits. You literally see him cutting a tree, a small tree about the size of half of your arm, and several other pieces of brush behind it just get slit. and burst just like something like a gun round has gone through that woods. Well in reality it has because that rocket blast, remember, is instantaneous. It's whoop and it's going down range. Well that's a lot of energy focused on that little tube. Don't be in front of it. Now that's a rocket. Now RPGs are actually not rocket propelled initially. They're all recoil-less rounds. What you're putting to your head, let me explain it this way. When you put an RPG-2 or an RPG-70 to the side of your head, understand that right about where your head is, when you pull the trigger, you're capping off about a quarter to a half stick of dynamite next to your ear. Think about that. What you're doing is you're slapping the rear end of a solid object. The RPG-7, well the RPG-2 is specifically, which it says rocket propelled grenade. No it's not, it's recoilless really, that's what the R stands for, not rocket. Recoilless propelled grenade. When you stuff the round into that solid steel tube, it's not just some kind of fence post you've got there guys. That was a gun tube that has been milled to specific spec. It's smooth bore and when you stuff that round in there what you do is you make contact. When you twist it what you do is you bite two contacts that are electronic contacts that allow for you to pull the trigger on the magneto on the pistol grip. It's self-powered, it doesn't have a battery. It's a magneto that when you pull the trigger what it does is it activates that little motor, sends the electronic signal to the two leads and that activates the charge, it goes WOOM! Well when it goes WOOM, there's a slap of energy from that high explosive charge to the base of that piece of metal you put in there and the rest of whatever you have in the way of charge guys goes back down the tube and out the rear end. Now it was strong enough to slap a several pound piece of metal down range. What do you think the amount of energy focused on the other end of the tube can do? Oh! That might be embarrassing to be in front of, right? Well, that's what they were trying to drive home. So when you watch that, understand that'll cut people just like it cuts wood, or like it'll cut other material, like you see. That was a very accurate representation. And I would actually say that it would be a great thing to use as a reinforcer. to help to explain to you the safety precautions that need to take place when you're dealing with it with again, recoilless weapons. The RPGs, the only difference between the two and the seven, the two is pure recoilless. All it does is slap the grenade downrange. When the grenade leaves the tube, when the anti-tank device or HE round leaves the tube, the nature of the system is such that the fin stabilizers pop and actually spring out. They're made out of cheap but very well made spring steel. You know, spring sheet metal. and or a spring activated. This creates the fin stabilization that allows your sighting system to have some semblance of accuracy out to whatever range. On the RPG-2, the first of all the recoilless round slaps it out, activates a burning element, a fusing element, and as it goes downrange, depending on the rocket and manufacturing country, between 700 and 800 yards, or less some 620 depending upon what RPG 7, RPG I think what is it 18, 23, 25 whatever as it goes down range a rocket assist motor kicks in and that's why there's a second arc of deployment with regard to the missile now on top of that the Russians were smart and everybody else copied this confusion on the battlefield or getting close is a good thing So at a given point the fuse continues to burn and then self detonates the warhead. Now, that's a big advantage because you know if you miss, having, shall we say, unexploded ordnance laying around can be embarrassing. Not to mention, if you're shooting it at armor and you miss and it goes off like an air burst, you might just take out some of them ground support people. If you do enough of that, the armor, you can walk up to it and kill it. Yep. In fact, everything helps on the battlefield. So remember, at phase one, recoil is phase two, rocket assists, phase three, self-detonation. Now, the advantage too is that if you remember the Russian concept of assault infantry when they're attacking or when they're defending, is the idea that you're creating this cascading umbrella. It's called a defense in depth. When you create these cascading umbrellas of shrapnel, as Dom pointed out, somebody might get hit. But at the very least, every time you put a round down range, it's contributing to the confusion on the battlefield. However, some people learned to do something with these. So the RPG-7 became the skeet gun slash poor man's anti-helicopter weapon of the 80s. Because everybody said, wait a minute, if I know exactly how far out it goes and it's going to airburst, if I pay attention and I have forward spotters, I can use the RPG as either a direct puncher on helicopters or I can use it like a single shot air defense cannon. Right? Near air burst can also shut off jet motors. Yeah. What keeps a helicopter in the air? And so it did. And a lot of helicopters were shot down in Afghanistan through the use of something that wasn't originally first application. Remember, everybody pictures the RPG-7 or the RPG-2 as anti-tank weapons or bunker busters. Well, somebody just angled the weapon about 15 to 20 degrees and said, let's try this. And you know what? It works. Helicopters are even more vulnerable to this syndrome because an airplane is moving through the air and creates a natural pressure at the front of the jet motor. helping to regain instantly. But when you move air sideways across the jet motor, both front and back, you can shut it off. Total stutter. Total shutter stutter, kids. And when it's not moving fast through the air like an airplane compared to a helicopter that might be moving 20 or 60 miles an hour through the air, it doesn't have, here's that other ram jet effect. to keep the motor going. They fall out of the sky. Remember, they're beating the air into submission. They're like a bumblebee. They're not supposed to fly. For all practical purposes, their argument is they shouldn't be able to fly. But in reality, because they're creating their own lift bubble and the vortexes that they create, if you have any kind of high explosive... Well, let's give everybody a good example. Vic Morrow found out the hard way about an accussive application near a helicopter's rotors. Because he's not with us anymore neither is a kid over carrying. Yeah, yeah, Vic moral guys So I don't even got decapitated to on that one Yeah, exactly what you will thing is that you know a concussive charge you watch even with a course a try to let people not see that anymore I don't even know what's on YouTube or anything, but remember they first were releasing it and they edited it because it was like oh my god How do you know people see that well? There's not it's not as much to see as you think it happens so fast that nobody even added initially I don't think anybody had a clue because of the confusion and then realize hey, where's the actor? Well, he's over there and over there what Oh, oh boy. And so are the girls. And so are the girl and boy. They're over there and over there too. You know? So, Mark, I got a question on an RPG-1. How does that... You say it slaps it out of the tube. I mean, boy, that round goes... I mean, it goes a long way. Yes, it does. It's a focus charge. You're absolutely right. What it is... And by the way, it's the RPG-2. The RPG-1 is what? The RPG-1 is the Panzerfaust, made by Germany. The RPG- No, you're right. No, no, seriously, they're both the same way. It's just the Panzerfaust. The thing is that Germany needing an immediate Volkssturm weapon slash general utility weapon decided to commit to a recoilless throwaway system, which is what the Panzerfaust is. First of all, it is a carbon steel, seamless, There are three ways they developed doing this. One is extruded, but the other is milled. They could do it either way. Remember Germany was in a panic because they had to crank stuff out. So whenever they developed a weapon, they always developed several ways to build it. So did we, by the way. So don't make a mistake. Everybody was in the same boat. They all realized they might lose the war. So in the early days, they developed several different ways to make the same product, just like ammunition, gunpowder, things like that. With the RPG one and the RPG two what you have is a seamless piece of tube you have an electronic activating system Okay, a battery system is what we went with if you if you haven't picked up a rocket propelled system like the 2.35 inch we used to get a miss surplus from the government. Oh did I say that? They used to toss those things out the back door like they were sewer pipe. Do you know how many of those are laying out across the countryside? They are so crude and rude. Most Americans don't realize, most troops don't realize unless they handle them how crude and rude they are. The RPG-2 is the same way. It's a piece of cold, extruded steel that is seamless, that is tempered. and it's built to spec using typically the equivalent to today would be a 4130, 4140 chromoly steel tube. It's seamless, bored to a particular dimension when the unit is locked in, when the round is shoved in, and then turned and twisted. Basically, it is a couple of ways to do this. Today they would use nylon or you can use a number of different materials. Back in the day they used copper or brass rings or copper or brass retainers that allowed for a very snug fit, number one. When they jam it in and you twist it, what you're doing when you turn it, you're talking to a turd to get a little bite, the two little electronic leads snag on the inside the brass connectors and those two connectors, typical copper connectors. Those copper rings, copper snags, of course, are going to go down range with everything, but they connect to the two leads that activate or create the arc charge slash the electronic match inside the charge. the charge. Now if you look at an RPG, let me give you an example. Go look at images on Google. The RPG 2 is the most common, or forgive me, 7 is common so everybody knows it. Look at the chunk of plastic you see at the base of whatever he's loading into the RPG. Have you ever noticed that? Everybody take a look. Even at Red Dawn, they did a good job of showing you what an RPG round actually looks like. Malias was a stickler for precision in terms of technical information. The charge is purely a committee number, a different built-in number of different ways using phenolic plastic to contain it, using modern plastics or polymers, and they've even used conventional just aluminum, kind of like your military pop flares, a sheet metal of some kind, very fine, very thin, but it's designed purely to hold that thrust charge in. Now the way Recoilist works is when you restrict a tube like this, and you have about a quarter stick of dynamite behind it, remember all that energy is focused. It is an open-ended gun barrel. Think about how little energy you use. How many grains of powder do you use to move a 500 grain bullet? Think about how small that charge is for the weight of what you're putting down range. Now, just think focused energy in the same way but a bigger bore. Now, it's not as fast as you would think. It's actually, although, again, the RPG is considered medium to high speed, but remember, like the 40mm grenade launcher, do a little research. Find out how a little amount of powder is actually in a shoulder-fired 40mm grenade round. It's low pressure, high velocity. It's like a big-ass shotgun shell. It's the best way to think about it. Well, you don't have that restriction with recoilless because you don't build up energy in a chamber with recoilless. But what you do have is the safety factor we've talked about time and again. If you're going to use an RPG-7, know your backstop. Behind you. Know your background behind you. Not so much your backstop. Your background behind you. That's why you shout out, RPG! When you're firing or, you know, or, you know, ball! and the reason is that if some of your buddies are behind you and they've been kind of bop bop bop killing whoever's trying to kill you the first thing they're going to do is look to see where that came from and the next thing you're going to see them do is scramble their ass out of the way because they sure as hell don't want to be behind you when you touch that off and that's the reason you call it out it's not because you're trying to let your enemy know when you pull the trigger it's going downrange so fast most people aren't going to get out of the way quick enough but the objective is to make sure that your friendlies know that's why you're calling out RPG or while you're calling out, WOW! or AT, rifle grenade's not so bad because rifle grenades fire off, you know, again, a light capping charge, in other words, literally the chamber of the weapon's closed, you push all the powder against the base of the round, but a rifle grenade works in the same way as the RPG, but at a lower tech level. In that it's a sealed chamber, all the energy goes down the tube and your action is taking a certain amount of energy obviously as it normally would with a sealed chamber case like a rifle round. The problem is if you're not careful, many weapons get abused by that when they're doing rifle grenades. RPGs because of the recoil system, the biggest thing you have to worry about in the long run is oxidation, lack of maintenance. See, that's the part nobody explains. It's a black powder charge. It's a low-tech black powder or HE charge that is the cheapest for the mostest. If you were to look at or inspect the round itself, the rocket you round itself, it's not a rocket, it's a recoilless round. It literally is a solid metal base. It's not, you know, again, unless it has the manganese burning pad like on a 7. It has a channeling activator or it has electronic fuses in the more sophisticated newer ones. But on the old ones, just like a pop flare, when you BOOM! fired the round downrange, because that's what it sounds like, BOOM! When you fire that round, when it goes downrange, that slap charge also activates a manganese tape. The manganese tape activates a fuse because it's a high burn. that in turn is running down the channel and making contact with the rocket motor which is going to kick in and you get that cat scream when that kicks in and then downrange you're going to hear that next after a while because if you didn't hit what you're aiming at as long as that rocket still in motion and it will be then it's going to pop downrange somewhere but you're going to hear it as a pop First you'll see the pumpkin, you'll see a pop. Okay, forgive me. I hope that we have something akin to that. Jackasses, kiddin' with their black ops choppers over at Bunkerville. I know a lot of... Charges, you know that They're set off like for fireworks charges, you know, like those brothers used back East Those fireworks experts. They're like they're almost like an RPG too aren't they? But they're lit from the bottom. I always when I watch fireworks guys I always I always think man look at those high explosive rounds that are being wasted the one that goes Guys could you imagine that dropped out round amongst somebody Oh man. You realize how big that charge is up in the air? Don, would you want anything like that landing next to you? Dig a deeper hole. So again, that is the point. If you were to, you know, fireworks are your friend, you know what I mean? Not so much the big burst charges, although they make great illumination while you're launching something like that. If you use that for illumination, it has tremendous effect. Because it is not so much that you're going to knock something out of the sky with that, but the regular starburst types that you see offer tremendous area illumination. Look at the sky when you're watching fireworks. How many of the other spent smoke clouds are visible? Now just consider if anything is flying through the area how not invisible it is for small arms fire. Now, the other consideration is if you launch one of those baccarat as they call them, okay, one of those multi-footers or even one of the big, sometimes those are just sent out down range and they're a big one. Just think about that going up the same way and no matter how you look at it, I don't care who the hell you are, it's not a happy camper situation. Now, if you drop it out in front of somebody, you know, like drop it, angle it down to 15 degrees and thump that down range into a tree line. I don't care who the hell you are, you're going to have to question mark what's down range in front of you. You know what I mean? Think about it. I mean, go ahead. Before we got off the subject. The bazooka is rocket launched. That was the complication. See, we went with a bazooka, a 2.35 inch. Well, let me explain a rocket launcher, first of all, our bazooka as we call them. The bazooka is also a seamless tube, but here's the cool thing, it doesn't have to be. Because of the nature of that, they actually made simple cold rolled steel seamed tubes. They also made a... Here's the other thing most people realize, in fact the Israelis sold a bunch of these that have been demilitarized recently. Everybody made a 3.5 inch rocket launcher. Everybody. Pakistan still sells them as render revolution weapons. Taiwan sells them. Pakistan is notorious for two things, the 106 recoilless and the 3.5 inch for a cheap anti-tank weapon or pocket artillery piece. You don't have to use them as any tank. You can drop them in like we're talking about like artillery just as well. But let me explain the 2.35 inch bazookas you know it. So tube in 2.35 inch diameter internally. It is a thick wall, approximately 1.6 inch in thickness. All of the electronics are encased in a metal, basically break line type tubing. Your front pistol grip or control grip is nothing more than a clamp that goes around the tube and is made out of two slabs of oak or pine or whatever you want to use. The trigger grip area, of course, is the same basic package. That has, of course, a simple switch where your trigger is. Now, there were a number of different ways, but they, again, hardened that and beefed it up. It's nothing more than a switch. When you pull back on the trigger, you're activating, you know, completing a circuit. Now where your buttstock is, that's a piece of basically true 2x6. Now when I say true, you know most 2x6s are not 2 inches anymore, haven't been for a long time. But back in the day, it was a rough cut 2x6 that they angled cut, they then bored out a couple of holes and made a battery can using the wooden channel. They use a connector, a copper base connector on one end. The cap, which is a hinged piece of metal, clips into place at the other and a couple of D-cell batteries are your power supply to activate the rocket. Now, the two leads go to the base back of the rocket, of the launcher itself. and they perforate the hull of the tube to the rear. Now these two tabs are separated by a distance for a reason because one's positive, one's negative. Now if you pay attention you'll see that you had a loader and there's a reason. A man could operate a gun, one of these bazookas by himself, but a loader meant that the gunner could focus on preparing to kill a target. It could stay eyeballed on what he was trying to hunt. The loader's job was to insert the rocket and if you pay attention you'll notice what he did is he twisted it if it was the later model. In the earlier model he actually just had guys two wires that came out of the base of the rocket. and where the two connectors are to the rear that permeate the tube that lock in place but with a rivet or with a screw you had thumb screws. You saw that example in early combat. Yeah, exactly. Big Maro. Yeah, they show you, I mean, if you physically have handled these, the thing is you have the little thumb nuts, you unscrew them, you guys wrap the wire, lock the thumb screw, wrap the wire. Now, some variants actually have push connectors. This is what was neat. is another variant made by I think Westinghouse. They actually ever seen those push connectors guys when you want to do antennas where you push down and you make an open hole, it's spring loaded. You run the wire through, you let it go and it's connected. That was a significant variant that was much faster to put in service. But either way, you wrap the wires one around the other and you create a connect, you take the two leads out of the ass end of the rocket. and connect them. Now what's inside is an electronic match and the primary rocket charge. And basically that rocket charge is no different from what we were just talking about. Those fireworks that are launched that you see every day that you know go, some of them are rocket, some are explosive charge like a big colster mortar depending on how they're built. When you activate and pull the trigger, the circuit is complete, the charge is sent into the electronic match, it activates the rocket and it goes down range. Now, what you have inside that rocket would vary because HE, high explosive, was made which could be impact detonated or you had one of the earliest shape charge designs. Shape charges found out by accident, not by intent, in World War I. It was perfected by World War II and of course developed and developed and developed today where we have now double and triple shape charges that slap one behind the other. But the idea behind this is that the rocket propels the round downrange. There was no safety on the fusing system. Now what do I mean by that? Well remember something, a lot of movies you see where you see the 40 millimeter grenade used at point blank range. It doesn't explode at point blank range guys. You have a standoff distance based upon rotation of the round which activates a fuse, a clock fuse inside. If it doesn't spin so many RPMs, what you have is a big single shot 40mm slug going down range. Now, with the rocket propelled system like this, it's instant cap, so if you're embarrassingly near something and you hit it first and activate it, that's why you also have to focus on what's between you and the target. Well, you did a fine job son of killing that tree branch. or that pipe or whatever you hit because if it's hard enough to resist that capping charge in the front then she's going to go so that's another reason that it would be nice to have an assistant gunner with a two point three five inch or three point five inch bazooka because they are, shall we say, less safety conscious than some other weapon systems and in fact most of the Russian weapons today they work better than ours in many ways but they also have some issues For instance, don't drop the Russian equivalent to our 40mm grenade. They don't have a capping or rotation fuse. Point blank range, they'll go off, which means if you're a stumble bomb and you kind of fumble things and you took the safety off the round, well, she works. Mr. Grenade is not your friend. Okay, so that was one of the big pluses of the 40mm grenade round as far as an advancement. In the 2.35 inch They went from D cell batteries and they went to plastics and they went to all kinds of other neat ideas, went to a little better optics system. The optics on the 2.35 inch, I've got piles of those. are a simple double lens ball and it has either the bullseye here in the center, it has a bullseye circle in the middle and three gradient lines below and each one of course is for specific range or point blank range. In the 3.5 inch you have either improved, well you have the simple sight which is iron but you, which is always mounted to the weapon by the way, so it's always available. And in addition to that, you have an optical sight and those vary depending upon the country. And Pakistan, everybody goes all those backward Pakistanis, Pakistan took advantage of everybody else's research and technology and probably came up with the most sophisticated optical sight that's still in service on a 3.5 inch. Of course, they also understood everybody has those rockets out there or did, so they made sure that their weapons could use everybody else's toys. Which is a plus when you're selling a weapon system and going, well what if I can't get yours? Don't worry, you'll have got yours, everybody else has missile to kill someone but cold. Don't worry, your 3.5 inch rocket will work just fine. And that's the history of the rocket from one direction. The RPG is recoilless. The only variance is it's not a purebred when it's a 7 RPG 7 or newer because it does have rocket assist beyond initial launch. anybody can make a white record list that you can make a record list all that would be it would be devastatingly mean uh... again you could do it with even cold roll but i wouldn't be near if you could do it out most people think about doing odd cannons They think that they have to have a cap and chamber, but you don't. The only thing you have to remember is that if you make something up that will launch, say, if you just wanted to put a rod inside another tube and you put a charge behind that, ran a couple wires out the back, just remember that that recoilless round does just exactly what we described no matter where you put it. You have to consider back blast. in addition to launch and trajectory. That's always part of the formula. So I typically again when they're mounted many vehicles all through Saddam Hussein's army, all the Eastern Bloc, all the Western Bloc had recoilless weapons because you know up on the roof to use for you know supplemental anti-tank use no matter what it was, APCs, trucks, whatever. They all had the ability to adapt either a 3.5 inch rocket launcher or a recoilless weapon system in 5.57mm, 75mm, 80mm, 90mm. Most of you guys if you're old enough, I trained on the 90s, trained on the 75. There were still 75s in units and so we had to adapt and understand how to use them, but they're just upgrades, they're just bigger guns. The recoilless in 106 is a beast. And remember the Russians made them up to 220 and 240mm. Bigger still big big-ass steel sewer pipes, but you know what when they put a round down range you May not get a second round down if you're not careful you better be moving as soon as you shoot Because that big back blast also lets everybody know where you are But I kind of laugh about that because if you've ever fired a main tank gun I think they kind of know where you are with that too Either way you're burning a lot of black powder the shoulder fired ones you're gonna get no matter what you're gonna get a certain amount of active signature because again they use the cheapest propellants available so they can make lots of them. So hopefully that answers the question. The rocket, the 2.35 inch, is rocket propelled. The launcher is simple. The round is complicated. Now, you go the other way with the RPG, the launcher is sophisticated, but the rounds are dirt cheap. See how that works? because the round doesn't require any special Venturi's or uniform burn behind it. The launcher itself is what directs and creates the accuracy of the weapon. Whereas if you have a rocket system, remember if it doesn't burn consistently guys, well you've got, you know, yeah I launched it over here and it got fraulf over there. Think about it, there's a lot more sophistication to creating a Venturi and a burn chamber, a burn cup that projects energy directly behind and uniformly behind and gets, you also have to get a consistent burn out of whatever you're using to make the rocket go down range. Now it's only, in some cases, only nanoseconds that it burns, depending on how small it is. But it still is, it's more sophisticated to make that rocket. And there's always this balance, it's no matter what technology you have. We need to understand rocket development in its simplest form. and we also need to remember that requirements can be built on almost anything long as you're willing to send bag and leave it walk away state activated from a distance kinda like the equivalent to a any tank claymore words you know fire forget you know you watch it you stay away from it don't be behind it don't be near it when you cap it off it's gonna be it's not gonna be useful again but it really did a fine job the one time it went downrange so that's the other go ahead you know i was in the service i had uh... M203 you know the m16 40 millimeter grenade launcher beneath it. And you know even though it had a leaf sight you know the thing moved through the air so slow I think the maximum effective range is 400 yards or You know you could all look it's like throwing a stone you kind of knew where I was gonna go You know I wonder if like a lot of the recoil is like that yes Yeah, in that respect that you once you you want to try and gain you know designate people and give and build their experience because It's a felt thing. It's like rifle marksmanship You've got our you we've talked about this before when you know you're on site you pull the trigger You know where that boats gone, and you also subconsciously know if you failed I mean, put it this out time and again, if you're in the niche in the groove of the weapon and you bring it to your shoulder and you rest your body and you pull the trigger, you know it's a built up experience because you're registering subconsciously and naturally all of the elements of your body and your weapon system. With the 40, it's an incredibly fantastic pocket mortar system. Traditionally, instead of the 40mm, remember we used to have, and we still do, have mortar crews at the unit level, at the platoon and company level. But it used to be the 60mm mortar would kind of fit that niche, though it had greater range. You could go out about anywhere from uh... eight sixteen hundred to three thousand yards you know without any problem they know what era that sixty millimeter was made was very small but still be stiff heavy mortar out mortars are heavy they're not as light as everybody would think but it's awful nice to have them around of the forty millimeter filled in a gap and you can take her out to six hundred yards i mean if you remember think about area you know control if i want to make sure hey i wonder if somebody is over there in that valley Yeah, look there's somebody moving around I guess we found someone there see that's the old reconnaissance by fire technique now remember too that there are bigger 40 mils out there too that were made for aircraft don't you know obviously we don't load those into our shoulder fired weapons they will we cease to exist as an operator as we know but go ahead I know there's a variety of rounds for that. I mean, I heard there was like a buckshot round for that 203. I mean, I... Yes, buckshot or flesh... later, flesh-et. But here's the thing. Remember, and of course, we would never do this. Never, never, never do this. But remember, as long as we keep the charge down low enough, old flare cartridges and these handheld players probably could have a defense load for them. And I wouldn't go real hot on it. because the idea is to keep somebody busy but if you loaded up uh... a low-pressure uh... shall we say anti-personnel charged it would be kind of handy to keep people at bay sometimes like a week but shotgun so to speak yet yet yet that's what they did with the forty millimeter they created buckshot and actually steel ball bearing was one thing that was you was used as it had to conform to the Geneva Convention we can use lead and the other was beehive and the beehive was a little cluster on the meat every eventually they made an x m experimental model uh... eventually to be adopted as a standard m model but they made flesh at anything that had a big two minute during vietnam everything i mean but i'm a word From recoilless weapons to all main tank guns and all artillery shells from 75 to 105 and 155. In fact, all of them had beehive. Beehive is really a mean, mean, mean load to point towards somebody. You can tack them to a tree. In fact, you can still buy beehive shells. Some of the companies I've mentioned over the last seven years have kind of gone out of business because there's no powder available. There are very little bullets that have been available. They started to build up an inventory, but most of those companies have Beehive for sale. In either the complete shell as surplus where they've scrapped them out, they take out the HE charge, and everything. You can buy the projectile or they were sold in factory canisters the way the Flushettes came to the factory to build the rounds. You can load up shotgun shells with Beehive. just like you can do buckshot. But there are things you have to do to make sure you don't just create a big porcupine ball because the Flushet gets stuck in a wad or something. So, good point. Yeah, they've made it in everything. 40 millimeter is, it's one of those things where you grab them, snag them, try not to hurt them, and immediately start putting them back into service on your side to kill the people that brought them to the battlefield. As quick as you can that would be a priority anytime you can see a 203 or any 40 millimeter variant That's being buried by like the Germans they have a an equivalent to the 203 that's on the G36 and all the others Oh, yeah, pop them dead and start using them on them right away everybody and everybody out there We've all had experience with them Sooner you can turn them on them the sooner the tide changes So there's something to think about go ahead anything else color Anyway, Don, we still have you there, I'm sure. Oh yeah, it makes me want to toss in the odd fact of when a torpedo group was closing on the Yamato, she fired a broadside out of those 18-inch guns that was shotgun, it was beehive. Yeah. And tracers, what's funny is the Japanese were notorious because they had so many air defense guns, they wanted to make sure everybody could track their own rounds. So, literally they say it was like the colors of the rainbow. There were purple tracers, red tracers, yellow tracers, green tracers, you name it, every color of the rainbow. And those big 18-inch guns, they had their own trace. The torpedo group watched the charge pass low and to the left of them. And no matter how anybody speaks about it, I don't care. When you have stuff like that, it's like my dad said, when he was on a destroyer, the battle wagons fired and the cruisers fired over the destroyers. When they were attacking any of the islands guys, it was cowboys and Indians, they would circle. The destroyers were closest, the cruisers were second out, the battle wagons could sit out at 20 miles. And at 20 miles, my dad was watching at Pelalu when they first sent the first rounds in to try and find the fortifications, the guns that were firing out. What they would do is they fired HE to scrape away the tropical rainforest. And then after a while, they would, you know, after they fired the first rounds, they'd fire another round of salvo with that again. He said it was like watching 55 gallon drums pass over your head at 100 yards. It was just think about that. But in groups of three, by the way. And he goes, that was happening constantly. Would you see those barrages, you know, the real world is that, trust me, that stuff is sucking wind going through the atmosphere and at velocities that you fire 30 out of 6 cartridges at. Pretty impressive to say the least and to have multiples going overhead repeatedly either 14 inch cruise arounds or and those weren't quite as big or Again, trash cans going through the air sucking air as they go by. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there are those that would call those cannons But you guys those are really truly 16 inch rifles rifles. Yeah, those are those are precision bore instruments. That's why at 20 yards You don't really want to be near them. I'm forgive me 20 miles. Yep And again, modern technology, there's all kinds of stuff out there, guys. It has advantages, it has disadvantages, it has potential, and there are failings. This is something like we talked about. Oh, it's a helicopter! You know, when you see helicopters scud in like boiled eggs and hit the ground, and you realize they look like a boiled egg that fell off your counter, they don't get up again. So it's one of those things where when you put one of them down, it's a big psychological lift. It really is. And something that, again, you realize it's all man-made. It can all be stopped. It will all fail. You will make it fail. That's what your job is as an infantryman or as a gunner or as, you know, again, whatever you're doing, guys, it's a breaking job. They build it, you break it. You break them harder. You break them on the ground before they get up, if you can. Find out where they're coming from and make sure they don't get up again and they'll bother anybody else. It's like seeing police, the more you kill the fewer there are. Go ahead, caller. Hi, this is Sean, if you're not listening intently. Don't forget the info bombs. They're very dangerous. You can hear them sucking and going by when police start to run when you're filming them and realize you're documenting the hell out of them. Come back! We want to play! Come back! Why is he running? He's leaving the playground. Where are they going? Especially for those who buy ink by the barrel. You know in reality nowadays we could actually you know have you ever thought about again big big RC aircraft guys I've tried to explain you realize what kind of a dynamic how that changes if you put an aluminum or a metal rod and then glue Forgive me, Kevwar filament along the inside chassis of everything that has to do with one of these things. You attach wing nuts or bolts or whatever you want to and tie them in. Ideally, nuts would be the best choice. Glue those inside the structure or something like that. Put a rod right through the whole length of the hull so that it doesn't interfere with anything internally. But on top of that, you may be worried about doing HE, but if you take one of these big ass, 6 foot in wingspan RC aircraft, take it up like a kamikaze, and let her linger like you see in those World War I movies, remember in the, what was it, Flyboys, where you see the folk are lingering over the Zeppelin? And when you have helicopters pass through, understand that that rotor is not one little tiny blade that just occupies one piece of air in one piece of space. Remember those rotors are traveling so many RPMs. Well if you all of a sudden just were to dive from above and just using a camera control system, you could come right in on the rotor hub and whatever junk you just applied into that area, you don't have to blow it up. You just have to muck up the machinery kids and I don't care who the pilot is He is not gonna want to stick around to figure out what just failed or what might be failing and the noise the clank and the fact that it can do mechanical damage if they cannot control the pitch and the you know the end the attitude of that room Yeah, they are it's like oh my god. This is really bad isn't it? Yeah, it's bad. We're going down If they can't control a pitch, they can't even auto rotate out of an engine failure. Yeah, because you can't readjust and think about it. This is something where it's like, like I said, you just sit up above like a bird, you come into the area of activity at mid altitude and then kamikaze. And remember with camera control, you'd be able to take her right into wherever you want to, guys. You don't have to have something that goes boom. You just got to have something with lots of junk. And it's got to be durable junk. Notice I said Kevlar line. The Kevlar fishing line that's out there, they were trying to ban in a bunch of states because props won't cut it. blades don't cut it. It tangles up and it's been destroying motors in boats in public areas because it wraps around the drive shaft and the propeller. It creates load and it actually does damage to the engines. That's what they were complaining about. In reality, I think some of the things we're talking about are why they were worried about it because Kevlar line won't break easily. Just think about gluing that onto the superstructure and all around the inside of the aircraft. attaching metal objects every so many inches and it could be aluminum that could be anything but in addition that that steel rod sharpened it at one end put it through the whole length of the fuselage you're talking about something that can perform at a pretty good speed runs off the equivalent to a weed wacker engine can get to altitude quick and doesn't have to be anything fancy but they'd be nice with a little aerodynamic and there's all kinds of go into RC aircraft look at some of the stuff that's out there Think about it. I mean you want speed, you want guts, and you want junk because it is the dart. That's how you think about it. It is the dart. And going in, yeah, you're going to lose it, but what did they lose? In fact, if nothing else, consider that with air defense, the basic rule, guys, is you're throwing junk in the air. That's what they call it at air defense school. And bringing down millions. Yeah, for the cost of pounds of junk, what are you destroying or at least taking out of the combat extrapolation? Because if the pilot is distracted or if the pilot or the aircraft is damaged, that is a plus. The weapon paid for itself. Well, I didn't get the Hollywood big clouds of explode. No, in fact, most cases, it's very dull. It's like we told you, Mr. Grenade is very dull and very lethal. It doesn't have lots of flame, it's just a little explosive charge with Mr. Copperwire flying through the air at thousands of feet per second. And if you're within the burst radius, Mr. Copperwire finds all those body parts that, well, you didn't want to see perforated and it can kill you. But as far as real grenades go, they don't look anything like the BS in movies. They're very dull, they're very unexciting, and they're very deadly. And the same is true with most every single one of them can kill you out there. Go ahead. My cousins in Vietnam used to tell me that they would take Coke bottles up in helicopters and just put one grenade in the case of Coke bottles and kick it overboard. And a fine glass would decimate and everybody in the circuit could never find it alone. Right, well on top of that, remember the carbonated material. The thing about pop and the hot environment in the back of the day is much greater carbonated than pop bottles. something, the formula change, that's why you lose the fizz density nowadays. When people talk about fizzing soda bottles in a hot environment, oh, that wasn't anything to be pleasant or ear-guied. That'll chew you up, it won't be as big a burst, but you know, when you take an HE round like that and kick it into a case of bobbles like that, oh yeah. Let it get nice and hot in that Vietnamese environment where that's 105 degrees in the shade.