May 7, 2014
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1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke and Don Betcher discussed the Bundy Ranch standoff in Nevada, focusing on defensive tactics, aggressive patrolling strategies, and the role of Harry Reid in orchestrating the conflict. They covered military concepts including mobile defense, reconnaissance in force, and the importance of discipline and organization at the ranch. The hosts emphasized the need for donations, supplies, and continued support for the Bundy family, and discussed how the standoff represents a larger pattern of federal overreach against American ranchers and farmers.
- bundy ranch
- harry reid
- nevada
- defensive tactics
- aggressive patrolling
- blm
- militia
- weapons wednesday
- night vision
- preparedness
- ruby ridge
- waco
- federal overreach
- ranchers
- operational security
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For a discount, visit sunoven.com I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me, he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay attacks you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight if He stood by your bedside a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? This distilled the land of the free and home There we go sorry about that dad. I was trying to unmute it. I thought mom was there Okay, very good. And good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke. And I'm Don Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines, in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and northeast. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on... Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio dot com, World Swans, AM and FM Micro stations, CB base stations, alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska Hallmark Network, Top of Main, bottom of Florida, bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third, the fifth pit, and our friends in the recall state of Colorado. Waving to the left coast, we turn back to the east. Don't forget the great state of Jefferson out there. Sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, and land in the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge. Where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, OK teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work a million Peddicote Junction operators. The ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well, tell you what, it is gray. It's been rainy all day. What's it like up in your neck of the woods Don, and what is this date today, sir? Oh, it's been gray and rainy and it's pretty much ditto on the weather there. It's Michigan. It's, you know, hey, spread all over the state today. Cold. Wet. Eh, it's not that cold, but it could be warmer for this time of year, but you don't hear me complaining about it. I missed the seventh day of May, year of Our Lord 2014, and that is a particular day, so with hardware in each hand, I Get all the hardware into one hand and touch that slide release and man I got one in the chamber now and in a moment I'll drop that mag and top it off but we can tell everybody it is weapons. Wednesday the perimeter is secure and there's plenty more where that came from. And we can now offer equal opportunity, course, to force as needed. Hand cannons being what they are, an effective weapon system, defensive tool that can be in your battery of well your Tools that need to jump to your hand as needed. There's the best way to do this. You know, one of the things about a gun, a gun is really honest. You know, it doesn't lie to you. If, hey, if it sends a bullet down range, it tells you, I did that, didn't it? You know, ballistics and all of that. The problem with it is the people who run them, you know, some of the people who carry them. Now, with that in mind, we've talked about moving guns out to the west. We've talked about honest people and we've talked about Mr. Harry Reid there. You guys, it's a weapons Wednesday. We're going to do this. I know it's a, it's a weapons Wednesday, but this needs to be addressed to the extent that, well, you know, there are a lot of people that are kind of set in their ways and they're going to hate guns even if they, there are people out there, you guys, who would not pick up a gun if it was right on the table in front of them to threaten the man who's coming through the door with a gun. You gotta understand that. There are some people so stubbornly, stupidly set in their ways that they're not gonna change and they will be bowled over, killed, crushed, destroyed, mangled, mutilated and spindled too. Gotta understand that. These are the basics. It's human nature. But many of those people aren't going to change on the Bundy thought either. We ain't gonna get there, Mr. Bundy. But there's a whole lot of people out there that don't know what's going on other than what the mainstream tells them. And I know it's a Weapons Wednesday, you guys, and we'll talk about guns in a minute. You watch. We'll talk about all kinds of things. A Bundy situation needs to be addressed to the root. That tree needs to be chopped down, not just the... You guys... Do you think those people that are there with guns are there because, well, they want to be? They're there because they were ordered to be. Mark, you've run this out so many times. Who told you to come here? And the chain is obvious here. We don't even have to ask that question. These are Harry Reid's minions. These are Harry Reid's flying monkeys. You've got to understand that. You need to make the American people. Your neighbor, the guy at the water cooler, the guy at the coffee machine, the guy in a break room, doesn't have to be a guy, it could be a girl. Your neighbor, your cousin, your aunt and uncle, this needs to be common knowledge that Mr. Bundy did not create this problem. Harry Reid, Senator from Nevada, is the source, is the root of this problem. Harry Reid, the guy who owns property right next door under the guise of a limited liability corporation in LLC. Also, his strings, even the wicked witch of the west with her flying monkeys probably had the answer to somebody. Well, even the wizard had some things over her, didn't he? At any rate. We don't have to talk about fantasies here. We don't have to try to run any comparisons because, you guys, this isn't even like apples and oranges. We know what's going on here. We need to let everyone else know what's going on here. Otherwise, what are you going to do in four or five years? Or when your neighbor says, oh, I see in the paper here that those damnable communists, Chinese, are in there and they own Nevada now. And they're telling us we can't come in there. What are you going to do then? Because it won't be a surprise. We know what they want to do. We know the efforts they are making to remove a legitimate landowner from his property. This is still America, ain't it? And sometimes we strive to practice proper English, but this is still America, ain't it? Tell me I'm wrong and, you know, tell me I'm wrong and hey, then I wonder why I'm even doing this. still have the ability by example, look at what we've done. Now, we have drawn attention to this. By doing that, we have literally dragged Clyde Bundy onto the national arena. Why, there are probably people in Germany wondering what's going on in the Bundy Ranch in Australia and China, most certainly in China. But when we have that stage, so to speak, We cannot afford to let them drive the scenery. We cannot afford to let them write the script. Why? Because if you're on stage, you have just a... you could talk down the guy over there, even if it's his time to talk. Well, here come my lines now. Abraham Lincoln said, and you over speak him. If that's what you want to do. Now, we need to take Clyde Bundy in the mainstream media and use it as a lever to bring Harry Reid to everybody's attention. And we'll go back to weapons Wednesday now, Mark. I just... You guys, this needs to be done. I'll be quiet now. And it's why we need to, again, be prepared to deal with the problem out there. The bad guys, of course, We're hoping that they could quote-unquote get away with something. Well, if step one they haven't, step two they may try again, but as long as we keep forests on the ground and everybody stays awake, we'll be doing fine. This is not going to be a Waco event. Now they may try to make it a variation on the gray seed or other sieges, but provided that we stay focused and keep Our wits about us stay on track. The bad guys are in trouble. Period. Just that simple guys. We've done a great job so far. Everybody that's pitched in has done exactly what we were hoping. Although we've had some glitches or bounces here and there, that ain't nothing new. In fact, it's exactly what we've seen over and over and over again. Don't be surprised, okay, by anything that they try to pull. Just be ready to respond rather than react. React is where out of confusion somebody has to perform some kind of action, quote unquote. responses where you understand and look to see what the different threats are that could possibly come down the road and have an SOP, a standard operating procedure, to deal with it no matter what the situation is. And tweak the problem, tweak dealing with the problem as it develops. But not reaction as in panic reaction. We can't afford that as a matter of fact. All we have to do is look at the history of what the Shysters have done in the past to understand right now what they're desperately trying to do behind the scenes now. And we can neutralize the threat. Truly we can. Anyway, before we go any farther, do we have any callers just to be safe here? And it sounds like we're doing okay. So we're headed towards the bottom of the hour. Don, just as an aside, Take the time if you would, please give us the information on how we can get hold of you if we want to get hold of night vision. And in about 40 minutes you'll be available what number, what do you have on hand, and what changes are taking place. Again, a reminder for some of our new listeners. Well, the phone number is 2-31-7-9-6-8-4-5-8. Again, 2-3-1-7-9-6-8-4-5-8-6-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8 We can talk about goggles or gunsights, green screens or thermal. That's a pretty standard phrase there. We can talk about that first generation gun sight 308 capable. Lives on top of your M1, your AR-10, right in your mailbox for $375. If you want to talk to me about that, my number is 231-796-8458. Again, 2-3-1-7-9-6-8-8. You guys, will be shipped tomorrow. They'll be shipped by ground. If you're close to the west coast, you might see those parts by the end of the week, by Friday, today's Wednesday. You'll start to see these fall in Monday and Tuesday. I got it right from my people today. They'll be sprinkled across the landmark. This is good. I would encourage you to call me when you receive that device and we'll do the run-up on it. Okay? That way, you know, you don't take the cap off or do other bad things to the device and well, when you get that initial run-up and you get even told how to adjust the diopter when it's in your hand, you get a lot more familiar with the device real quick. Again, my phone number is 231-79-684-58. Thank you, Mark. And again, while you're dealing with a stranger, when you can again contact Don as a friend. We have a couple of other projects here. Let's see, of course, the Bundy Ranch, no change. Contrary to the propaganda, no change at all. Everything is where it belongs. Everybody is doing their part. And yes, we do need donations. OK, I'm going to remind you again, yes, we do need donations out there with the Bundys. Food, material support, whatever you want to do. Batteries, take your pick. Whatever you can send is fantastic. They will use it all. Okay, just that simple. So take the time and again help to deal with the problem. The address is the Bundy Ranch 3315 Gold Butte, B-U-T-T-E Road, Bunkerville, Nevada 89007. That's Bundy Ranch. 3315 Gold Butte Road, that's Gold Butte, B-U-T-T-E Road. Muncarville, Nevada, 89007. And do we have a caller? Just to be safe before we go any farther, don't want to leave anybody out. I've heard a couple of things in the background. I mean we have somebody hooking up. Don't have... Yeah, it's Frank and Florida. There we go. Jump in there Frank, go ahead. I was just wondering how useful a certain concept I read about from an old German general from World War I. He had this idea where, and the Germans practiced it and he gave examples of it, where on the Eastern Front in World War I the Germans were outnumbered by the Russians. So their basic strategy was to have a defensive line, but what he called a mobile defense. But not just that, because, you know, remaining in a defensive position seems to be eventually a little bit of a weakness. So anyway, what they would do is they would have this mobile defense against the Russians, and at the same time they would look for opportunities of a weakness on the Russians where the Russians were and strike out in a limited degree to throw them off balance and to punish them. And he gave an example of the Austrians going too far and their army being destroyed because they didn't realize that they were basically in a defensive posture but with taking limited opportunities to strike out and punish the enemy and keep them off balance and I was just wondering about that concept in the context of what's going on at the bundle and show what you thought about that well that's something we were talking about a variation on that is what is known as aggressive patrolling And it's something that needs to be done anyway because my attitude is the bad guys. That means you don't just use roads, but you also would be moving along with topographic features and aggressively patrolling in the areas that cannot be directly observed. A five-man fire team would be your best choice. Squads would be nice, but if you have lower numbers, then you use five-man fire teams linked with whatever observation bases, you know, LPOPs. or again security perimeter outposts and you sort out and do basically what is a U-type sweep of the area that's designated. Now because you have different states and different organizations and we've talked about this before you give them different areas of responsibility Each one should have the mission of randomly. There's no routine to this. That's the other thing that's a basic rule, just like he was talking about there. You strike randomly at what are perceived to be weak points or opportune targets. Probably the best example is... resupply. If you see that resupply is going out or that there's a need if there has been a back in that day it was artillery barrage exchange. If they were resupplying this meant that the guns were at their lowest in ammunition support and if you could you hit attack punched into the first trenches you would strike and destroy as much as you could but what you were trying to do is also reach the guns either the forward support guns or ideally the guns and the resupply train. Now, you probably weren't going to take a whole lot back with you, although it was a booty price thing, it was a matter of whatever you could grab and run with, but these stormtroopers, when they would strike, these storm waves would sortie out, kick butt, and then, just like he says, return to their place of origin with more firepower, other weapons. They would expend a certain amount, but the logic is they would acquire what the enemy had forward, and then they would fall back with it. They would also destroy. part of the supply train and if at all possible support weapon systems now in our reconnaissance in force what we're looking for especially when we're looking in uh... at aggressive patrolling we're looking for seismic sensors listening devices camera technology or traces are identifying points where there might be hides or other observation points you may actually flush the enemy out of remember that the bad guys i guarantee are aggressive with regard to their penetration of the area of activity. At night, I would expect them to be much more active in Pathfinder type formations, two or three men, up to five themselves, and their job is to try and see how far they can go and what they can get away with. They're not sitting on their hands right now. They're just figuring that they can probably get away with more after the hours of darkness, and both sides, of course, might bump into each other. The idea is not necessarily to fire anybody up because the bad guys, of course, as much as anything, know they're in any Indian country and really, really, really don't want anybody to confirm identity or activity. So what you're doing is flushing them out like quail and progressively pushing them back. This, of course, also because it's a random schedule creates a situation where the aggressor cannot be sure of any approach area with regard to safe travel. The other thing is while you're out there, you can set up electronic squibs, noise makers, light mines, there's all kinds of cool stuff you can do that can just be randomly in place. You know where they're put, you map out where they're located, you can place them at one time and then move them with the next patrol. However, when you're patrolling like this, let's say that we have, Michigan has the Northeastern Quadrant, There are a number of different pictures we're looking at. We may have an arroyo, we may have a wash of whatever kind that runs as part of a tributary down to the river. It's a dry gulch. Ridges and hills. Obviously those need to not just be patrolled along the actual, the physical crown, but also along the tactical crest, both sides. They need to be swept, perhaps even simultaneously, because if you're a smart person, you just slide over the side of the hill, keep an eye on who's traveling through the area, and once they've passed and maybe they've moved farther down the range and shift over, you just shift over to the side they already patrolled and they're ignorant of what's going on. There's all kinds of things that both sides could be doing right now, but the defender Typically, in this case, you are a garrison, you are like a bochest, you are an independent outpost. You have a regular train of supply while there is peace. This is all the stuff I have been describing for the last five weeks. In this case, the basic rule though is, at some point, when we are in bochest, the guy gets shot always up in the tower. It was the doom job. Well, when you see that, then it's started and you know that you're not going to get any supply. No more supply camels, no more electricity coming in, whatever you got is all you got. So that's the other reason that aggressive patrolling now would keep the enemy at bay, especially at random times of create confusion. They don't have any guaranteed watch that they can count on. Daylight operations are easily secure, easier to secure, but that's where aggressive optical surveillance needs to take place. Again, forward LPOPs and mobile LPOPs, in other words, vehicles used for observation posts, are another option during daylight hours. Same idea. It's basically what I've been proposing. It's what we need to do. We aren't in a fighting situation yet. If we were in a fighting situation based upon the assessment by the defender under the premise that you're laying here with the concept that you observe a weak point, Remember that it's the idea that with response units from outside, the hammer and anvil process, the anvil being the defense in the center, the hammer being the mobile units coming out to crush the weak point. Again, the off-site ranches, we need to develop that as fast as possible. So, good point. Go ahead, anything else, Cole, or jump in there, please. No, that's it. Thanks so much. You brought a good point forward as something needs to be expressed. The other thing is deception technology. The end deception techniques. Creating greater numbers than you have. Battle chatter that misdirects the enemy. Radio battle chatter. Remember the bad guys are looking for the standard corporate slash business frequencies that everybody has been sold. FRS radios are one of those. Well, both FRS and other radios, if we diversify and split it up, we can actually do some pretty interesting things with the equipment that isn't known. And we can use for standard operations that which is an unknown. Probably the best example is handheld marine channel radios. Marine channel is simply not out there, guys. So, marine, especially in the middle of the desert, I mean, we're going to fly a fleet there, anybody got a fishing vessel or something nearby? Well, there's probably a few things here and there. But marine is typically not thought about with inland boats in unique situations like that. And if it is, it's not likely the bad guys are going to be accessing very much of that. So it is another solution that allows us to operate with a certain amount of security and still using code or using any number of different techniques, sound and noise, click click, or just simply key on, key off for the microphone. We can move troops, we can signal the activity of the enemy, the whole nine yards. That's where the signal communications element comes in, which is so critical now. We must get that deployed as quickly as we can and we're working on it. We've gotten radios in there. There's some argument that some have walked away. I don't know. Let's just put it. Not everybody knows what everybody has, number one. So people came in with things, they may, again, they've kept their radios and other people are interpreting that as, you know, why are you leaving with our stuff? Well, if it was their stuff to begin with, there's no comment, okay? That's where we need a quarter master, a signals officer, and there are several key positions. I don't know if they have a medical officer or a designated medical staff yet. That's something that needs to happen, that's being perfected. If not, at least it's in the development phase. As somebody more capable is able to step in and organize it, then it will expand. But those need to happen now. Those are the support tools that allow for all the different things to happen. The LPOPs, 24-hour rotational staff with regard to the positions, how they're manned, effective use of all manpower that's not in the defense processor posture. If they're resting, they must rest. This is another mistake most commonly made. If you're designated with a rest period, take it. Right now you can down the road you may not be able to. Okay, I know that's tough for a lot of people. Well, I'm out here and I'm all pumped up. That's true. I understand that. You may stretch yourself a little but a minimal rest maintenance has to be maintained. In order for your fighting edge, your body's potential to be maintained at a particular high level so that in the event you are fighting, you're able to operate for the greatest number of hours in a real time, real combat slash contact situation. If you're exhausted going into it or tired going into it, then your performance rating is progressively going to go down, especially if it ends up being a 48 to 72 hour initial standoff before relief can effectively organize, mount, and then assist you. You're going to have to hold for so many hours or perhaps so many days depending upon the situation. variations of what we have seen with other standoffs or what we saw with Waco. Difference, we're not going to let him burn them out and we're not going to let him just roll through. Also, we understand the idea of what they've employed in the past. This is why I can assume they're doing probes now. It doesn't have to be a spy from inside. Infiltrators from outside have to be expected. This is why security is supposed to be in place. This is why you need to map out security in such a way that you have overlapping tiers. One person may miss, the other one will not. Again, night vision employment, using the night vision equipment you have available to the best of your ability so that it monitors the greatest area and offers the most benefit during the hours of operation where it's needed. Don, go ahead, jump in there please. I'm sorry. Well, one thing we can address here, you guys, at the St. Nebraska, when you move into hilly areas, Mark describes topping the hill on both sides. That's what he described, not topping it at the peak, topping it at the military crest on both sides so that someone can't literally walk around the other side of the hill. Now, when you move through areas like this, we have to understand that they might have, well, higher eyes than us. You know what I mean. So the people, if you're moving directly toward them and someone says, you need to move a hundred yards to your west. So they do. But if you continue in that straight line, you will walk right by them. We're not patrolling 10 miles away. We need zigzag motion through there. We need non-predictable motion through there. And this is how you're going to run across them. Because if you leave the Bundy Ranch and patrol straight out a mile and left a mile and straight back in a mile, that's way too predictable. And they will simply step out of your way. That is what will happen. You need to do the crazy Ivan, remember, and I don't particularly, we do this every now and then, but at the top or the bottom of the hour you need to turn 90 degrees and it doesn't have to be regulated like that. You need to be unpredictable in your path. That's the point. I'll be quiet. Very good. Another thing here, again, I mentioned medical support. I understand that there is a designated medical area, but they're waiting for electricity that may have already changed and be upgraded. Remember, battery power first, if at all possible, and then switching over to whatever other wiring, if it's going to be hardwired for ground service, or if it's going to be provided with support as a generator. I would only look at that site as a temporary, while it is a concrete structure, it is supposed to be close to the main access. That makes for a bad formula for long-term casualty maintenance, but as a forward aid station or a perimeter aid station, it would work fine because it does offer reasonable cover. The bad thing is remember most of your infantry will be trying to take cover in secure or hardened sites. So you're going to be pulling fire towards what is supposed to be a recovery area, a rallying point for casualties. One of the reasons again to remember that while you may bring a person there for immediate aid to stabilize, you want to have stretchers on hand, you immediately move the person from that forward area station back to a center point. that is already designated, preferably hardened, sandbagged, whatever has been done, dug, dig down, reinforce it, whatever you're going to do. But a designated medical support area after the person has initially been treated to keep them from bleeding to death in transport, quickest, as soon as we can get support to the casualty, better off the individual, obviously going to be higher probability of survival. The forward area should not be grossly overstocked. That's another thing to remember. It needs to be stocked with blowout kits, etc. You may have, in fact, if you have a number of trauma surgery kits, you can keep one forward there. But your primary trauma surgery support and oxygen, things of that nature, should be back in the core, in the center of the defense grid. That's the basic rule. The other thing is, don't forget guys, field telephones does not have to be a radio in order for you to talk from point to point. Since we do have a number of different points around the site that need to be secured, field telephones are a solution. And even after other signal communications are established, it should be a priority, if at all possible, to continue to collect the technology. You know, copper or steel wire, the phones themselves, securing them in locations where they can't easily be damaged, in other words, sandbagging them up. That way you have an alternate slash untrackable form of communication from point to point. That's especially critical down the road with regard to OPSEC, operational security. If you identify something perceived that the radio might be compromised, The deception activities can be used on the radio, the field telephone can be used for direct communications point to point to get the information across that needs to be transmitted. Hey, you know if you're digging in somewhere, literally you guys, if you're digging in somewhere, you're digging it. You're going to need a pick in the desert. We've addressed that already. But when you start to enhance a site like that, sandbag it, you don't have to have sandbags front to back, front to back, front to back from you to the front of your position. Build a sandbag wall. You take dirt from the place you're excavating and you put it on the other side of the wall. And you put sandbags, you build up the wall on each side with sandbags and you fill the interior of that wall to the thickness of your heart's desire with dirt that you're digging out behind the sandbags, right? Hey, you know what that does for the lifetime of the finite amount of sandbags on site? Mark, you could elaborate on that, couldn't you? Because we've just turned 100 sandbags that could be built into one position by one person who just wants to do it that way into seven or nine positions, haven't we? Yep. I would point out, again, there have been a number of different pieces of information that have been virtually misdirection in many ways, or because of Insults that took place, actually one of the biggest being left behind perhaps, or the idea that somebody walks away when somebody is still on the line. Again, only mention this because I understand the animosity, the antagonism that takes place under those situations. This is where management has to step in. Most people on the ground there, everybody is pretty well ironed that out. It's like a ripple effect going out away from the epicenter where there are little ripples in the pond still where people are just now finding about something that happened five, six days ago or eight days ago. We're past that. We already know what we have and what we don't have. We know who we can count on. We know who we could question counting on. Because of that, the people are focused on the mission on the ground there, guys. They really are. We need to help them out with this now. I can't emphasize that enough. This is where we show our strength. This is where all of you know don't complain about it. Let's act upon this. Okay, it is most important. The enemy is watching. So let's make sure we square our activities away. You know what I could say. But let's become strapped. I've told you before, the enemy is terrified most of what? Discipline. Demonstrating discipline when they act like animals is something they fear. When they're slavering and they're bloody-eyed and they're all barking and screaming and hollering like animals and you're acting like a human being, like a man, they don't know what to do. And they also realize that if you're focused while they're trying to use the barking dog scam, that they've got something else on their hands that they're not used to dealing with, a free man. That's what this society wants. If you're going to be free, I'm going to tell you something right now. You're going to have to start putting yourselves on the line. If you want to be free, part of the process is the idea that we're at that point in time where this is it. It's not just the Bundy's. I'm going to say this. The Bundy Ranch was supposed to be the kickoff. I guarantee, mark my word, what we're going to find out eventually about this. The Bundy Ranch attack was to puff up the mercenary whores, the foreign, the Israelis that were there, along with the BLM in a series of cascading and roll-up actions against American ranchers and farmers. And right now, literally like the Alamo, although it ain't the Alamo because we can do better, they're in the same situation with the Bundy Ranch that they were with the Alamo. We're buying time. We should be doing better with every day. We shouldn't be holding back where we can provide support and where we can provide manpower. And we need to understand there's going to be a second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth front opened up very quickly if we let this situation fail. It's happening. It's not maybe. We already know we've got a map for most of what they plan on doing now. So if they can get past the Bundy thing, which right now they do have manpower on standby. They do have people waiting frothing at the mouth. They are probably at military bases. Where were they practicing to attack? At Waco, before the first aid. At Fort Hood. This is all stuff we've seen before. Anybody who's been out there, guys, there's nothing they can surprise us with. The only thing now is to make sure that we are steadfast and understand our obligations. We got a caller. Call our gym from there, please. I'm sorry. Mark, from Ohio. I remember years ago, out there in Indianapolis, you told me, man, check this. Check the railroad yards, we checked the motels, we found out where they ate, we found out where they stayed. They had the white vans with the dish on the top of the air conditioning unit. Yep, exactly. The reconnaissance was extensive, yes. Exactly. We were all over the place back then. This is what these folks also need to be doing. They can be doing several things behind the scenes. What hotel do they stay in? Let people know if they can call it in or something, like the old days. Right, and it doesn't need to be nebulous. We need to do who, what, where, when. We need particulars and it's like the bad guys realize they're not moving in a vacuum. Everything they're doing, they're just as visible as anybody else. Exactly. Again, this is where the non-combatants can come in. The women and the kids in the car are just driving around bebopping, like acting goofy, tell the kids act goofy. Well, that's something that basically creates a nullifier. When in reality there's a spider eye of cameras on the car, pointing in all directions, and the person can collect a vast amount of information while the children go crazy in the car and the woman just drives down the road. You know, we know they like to park behind Walmarts and Kmart and stuff like that. Big stores or malls where they can't be seen. They like that kind of places. We know that. We did that before. Ray Road to R&G, what they're hauling in. Look at the local airport, especially if they've got, what's the name of it, the government agency, they used to have. Anyways, you know, anything that's any of the big airports around Raytheon, Raytheon, look at their areas. So, yeah, that's where they were bringing in the stuff. Oh, they're at the Indianapolis Baptist where they were unloading the trucks. Well, the other thing here too, remember air assets, every aspect of what you can imagine was used with the Baptist Temple standoff. And again, for as long as we had firepower, a manpower on the ground, the site was not taken. Right? As long as we had manpower on the ground, a decision was made to change that. I'm just looking at overview, guys. It was a complete success for as long as militia forces focused and provided the resources necessary. The outcome was the decision of the people who were of course at the center of the event. That's something you have to live with. Our job is to perform in a particular way to the best of our abilities, utilize all the tools that we have available, and again, create a positive result. We had a positive ongoing result. based upon the support of many many different people from many different walks of life but all of them pitched in all of them out to get the job done we accomplish the task we accomplish the mission over and over again and that's what we need to see happen here the same thing the bad guys if the only thing is if they're on one of the military facilities and there are points of the compass there are a number that are out there the uh... the only thing that i would say is a big a is certainly the satellite surveillance if we have a long time delivery out there The only other thing they're going to try to do is probably some kind of preparatory training, you know, like stage training. That's what we need to be watching for. They have to have a site that is comparable to use for that. And that way they can pump up the psyche of the troops. Because that's the purpose behind it. I mean, this isn't the usual line up in a row and, you know, kicking the door on grandma and mower down with a machine gun. It's not going to work that way. So that's the other thing we need to pay attention to is appreciate the input on that go ahead. Please jump in there That's about it. I wish that was a little younger, and I just had a hard operation Monday, so I can't get my butt out well Do what you can like you're doing right now. Jump on the keyboard and shout to the world. Every place you can. I do it every day. In fact, the biggest problem is we start getting to conversations and there are other people that got involved and so we brought, you know, we kick in with feedback and interaction is very critical right now. So you can help that way. Oh, I know. We're doing a bunch of stuff behind the scenes and getting other radio stations up. We're working on it. appreciate that. Alright, God bless. Thank you sir. And again, remember guys, we've had a lot of successes and in fact it's because we co-operated. The bad guys did not expect that. In fact, we assumed that they could stir the pot. As far as I know, and again this is with the Oathkeeper situation, I haven't had a chance to check today, but the Oathkeeper site came up with positive statements supporting the Bundy's, talking about continuing to send people there. The website went offline. In other words, the last thing they want, and this tells you how the enemy is watching, where it looked like, well, the pot wasn't continually being stirred. In other words, let it lie, it's now in the past. Well, that is the attitude we got to have. We understand limitations, we understand levels of performance. The bad guys were hoping to get a fight going inside that would just cascade into stupidity. Well, we've got a mission, we've got a job, we know we've got to do. Stay focused on that. We know what needs to be done. Now redouble your efforts. Well, we have manpower, aren't there? No, redouble your efforts. Now is the time when we need you most now is the time when you need to do the most and it's going to be an ongoing thing if we're if we're going to garrison the site the number one is we're already you know down we've already thrown their schedule off seriously I believe that this was supposed to be their pump up for the big offensive that what they were going to do was go to the voting show. Yeah, we took the cattle. Yeah, we beat on the women. Yeah, we threw their women down. We beat up their kids. Hell, we even beat up their horses. This was going to be the Ruby Ridge compared to the Waco? Yeah, exactly. That was their preparatory. Remember, Ruby Ridge was a massive first phase exercise. It was a test of the equivalent to Homeland Security. It was the FEMA coordinated effort of its day on a massive scale. It worked in some ways, backfired completely in others. They tried to tweak it. Again, by knowing that they were already, even as they were doing the Ruby Ridge attack on the Weavers, understand they were already practicing and been practicing for the attack at Waco. They were planning a year in advance on attacking and murdering women and kids at Waco. The first day's attack, one year before that, they were in motion. Well, look at the timeline and ask yourself, when did the Weaver attack take place? Understand that what they did is mobile air support, ground surveillance operations, control of the peripheral area, the traffic grid. Ambushing people on the road, attacking people on the road, this is all stuff they did during the Weaver Siege. But they weren't 100% successful. In fact, they weren't even close because the militia in the state and around the state, each knew how to infiltrate and they were ridge runners. And the territory of that region is some of the worst territory to try and control. It's no different from being over there in West Virginia or, you know, Northwest Virginia, nor the Northwestern part of Virginia proper, or Virginia or Pennsylvania. It is rugged, pieces of real estate with no direct route that can be fully controlled and lots of ways to get around anybody that thinks they're going to stop you. And that's exactly what the militia did during the Weaver siege. In fact, remember, were it not for the infiltrators, the weavers would have been burned out within the first two days. Remember? It's because men risked their lives, they perforated the encircling attack grid, the encircling siege, and carrying cameras were able to demonstrate to the helicopter, carrying the incendiary that was going to burn the weavers to death, that everybody was going to see it on film. Not only that, but again, even though they backed off because the guy in the chopper looked right at. the men who were filming stepped out into the open. It's because of the action and them running, because the bad guys were after them, that they were able to escape with the footage. Think about that. Again, it didn't work completely at their advantage. Randy Weaver and the surviving family members are still alive and that wasn't supposed to happen. So even in there, if you want to call it victory, a series of stumbling failures developed. Waco was no different. Yes, They got their way in the long run because we made a grievous error. That grievous error cannot happen in the 21st century. It must not. So we need to be prepared for this. Now, again, if you're going in there, square yourselves away. I am serious. For a change, guys. You know, the bad guys' warship, uniformity, or we can look a hell of a lot better than they do and we can be squared away. And every time you go in, the other thing is, so again, it's like the discussion about success, it's contagious. Well, again, square your unit away. Everybody in the same uniform, everybody with the same basic gear. There's variations because you guys have different weapon systems. but your equipment should be squared away. Your material, everybody should know what they're doing. Again, SOP, Standard Operating Procedure, should be in place for that fire team or that squad. You need to work at this. You tune yourself up. Do what you can to walk and exercise before you get out there, because you're looking at both hot and some exercise up and down. Especially if again, well, I don't see eye to eye with French Midlap there. Well, that's no big deal. I'll tell you what, go over here to this position, make up your point in the perimeter, and pick an area and start patrolling it. Get out there and aggressively stomp the brush. Hey, you know, when you look at the Bundy Ranch on Google, you can touch that mouse and it'll tell you elevation and where the cursor is. You can do a basic survey of the land that way. You know it's not going to be a pretty topographical map. It'll be lines if you start here and you go west you can get an idea. But did you know that there's a peak there that's almost 4,200 or 4,300 feet higher than the Bundy Ranch? Did you know that? That's part of gathering information, isn't it Mark? If it's at your fingertips, so to speak, you know, Google, YouTube, other, you know, internet sites, take advantage of it. that goes over to knowing the land. Sure does. In fact, study, study, study. One of the things you can do, go to the different pages and sites we've referred. I'll bring one up again here in a minute. Also, study again. Google mapping, any other topographic mapping information. There's a number of different services. There's no reason for you not to be completely familiar with the area of operation before you hit the ground. Also, there is enough familiarizing imagery that was done by people photographing events on the Bundy site that you are easily able to observe and you can actually map out and put together the facility, the way the ranch is set up to a degree. Hey Mark. Go ahead, call her. Jump in there. TopoQuest.com. TopoQuest.com. Just how it's spelled the second sounds. T-O-P-O-Quest.com. You go to that site, you punch in Bundy Ranch Map. It'll give you a full PDF downloadable map of the whole ranch topographical. How big? It's the whole ranch itself. You can go there right now, you can see what I'm talking about. It's pretty big. Map size, medium, rare. 768 by 768, medium, rare. Grandy is 1024 by 1024, extra grand-age, 1280 by 1280. Okay. Very good. And again, for everybody out there, these can be drawn off. I would recommend something that we talked about before, but I think we need to reinforce. Remember guys, if you can copy it, print it, and then copy it. The way to do it, if it's a color topo, guys go to your local Photoshop, and they do very cheap color photocopying. Now, if you have a certain area, for instance, around the ranch, one of the ways to do this is take the center of the ranch, put the four corners of the 8.5 by 11 sheet you're going to make right to the center of the complex, of the ranch. That will give you a wider perimeter topo image than if you just do one 8.5 by 11 over the ranch itself. over the center, you know, the center ranch area, the main barn buildings, tractor storage, etc. This is something to take into consideration. The reason I would say that is because if you do four 8-1 by 11 copies, you have all the information in color or in black and white so that you can hand copies of the mapping out to every person in your team, not just your team leader. I've done this for years. I have topo maps of every square foot for about 10 miles in every direction. Now, with that in mind, I also have a stack of about 100 black and whites that are copies of the local topo maps for here and for other sites around in the area where we normally operate in. Because of that, I can hand out immediately to any person who is going to participate a map. We have a quick orientation class once we're on the ground. And everybody then is able to carry in, of course they should have a compass, they should have lights, they should have fire. Obviously they're all training anyway so they're combat equipped typically. But it's the idea that mapping for everyone in the team, that's no secret, you're not going to violate anything, you don't need to be marking the map with all kinds of stuff. The important thing is to orient everybody to the terrain so they know where to look and what to expect. And if we do have a man-made feature there that we've established like an LPOP, memorize it. There are only so many in your quadrant anyway. See how that works? So again, as long as you have the map, you can orient the map, figure out where you are depending upon terrain features, and then move accordingly away from the threat or towards friendly support. Usually I just go ahead. I just punched in Bundy map top of graphical I'll put you right to topo quest and it's a free demo Excellent appreciate that anything else we're at the top. That's it very good. Thank you, sir Yes, and guys your number of down your number for night vision before we're going farther because we're gonna hear the music it is two three one seven nine six eight four five eight 2 3 1 7 9 6 8 4 5 8 And for everybody out there, again, pitch in guys. Do whatever you can. Go to any public media. Talk about support the Bundys. Send money. Send resources. Send a donation of food. Whatever you're going to do. Get into every circle you can. Motivate people. Remind them that our people are still on the ground doing their job. We've got to do our small points of the compass. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Hoorah! Kick him in the slats and beat him down hard. Don, your number for night vision will be available in just a minute and close us, please. Thank you, Mark. Bed number is 2317968458. Again, 2317968458. God bless you, Mark. God bless America. the strong hope and the others just the other sons