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For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? and a good evening ladies and gentlemen this is the evening intelligence reporter mark kirky and i'm done better one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on behind the lines of occupied territories west southwest central and east ladies jon you're listening to us on the liberty to radio dot for m g dot com indiana free talk radio dot com and EMA-FM microstations, CB base stations, and Ultra net technologies along with Hallmark and Golden Spike across the United States. It is a great day here. Don, I'm going to have to have you take over for a few minutes here, but I want you to cover something in particular anyway. Then we're going to get back to another little subject real quick. It's Weapons Wednesday. What is the date today, sir? Market is the 30th day of April. Year of our Lord, 2014. And it is Weapons Wednesday, so those mechanical motions and sounds will happen. It serves like the magazine and the magazine well. Hey, there's one in the chamber, and we can tell everybody it is Weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure, and you know, there's plenty more where that came from. Now we can offer equal opportunity course of force. Again, if anybody has any night vision questions, we've got Don here. It is Weapons Wednesday, especially with White Knight Vision and Weapons Application. How can we make it work best? We had some discussions, of course, over the first hour of the two-hour block in the afternoon. We are going to continue and to proceed through this tomorrow, also, on Thursday, if we can, in the morning program. Don, what do you have available? And again, overview. No light. Extreme, no light. I know we've described this in the training videos, but let's give everybody an overview again. With regard to dark places, shadows, the differences in effect and condition, and understand that contrary to the movies, what things really do, how they really work as opposed to theater are two different things, aren't they, sir? Go ahead. Well, there's a couple points to be made there. Thank you. You guys, you see the commercial or you see the someplace in a movie somewhere, a guy is sneaking through a room or there's a commercial, I don't remember if it's for a bank or something, and there's four or six guys walking through a room and they've all got night vision on and somebody throws a light on in the room and they all start screaming, oh I'm blind, I'm blind, oh. Night vision hasn't been able to do that since the early 70s. PBS 1s, rather, PBS 2s. PVS2B had bright source protection and automatic brightness control. PVS didn't. If you were to point it at a fire, it would just magnify light and light and light on the other side and it would pretty much put a lot of light in your eye. You wouldn't adjust that eye to nighttime for an hour. There was a particular discipline to the first people that were issued night vision. They were taught a little bit more like don't point it at a fire. You hear these things, don't point it at the moon. don't look at a fire, that'll heat up the tube real quick. Now, by the time PBS2 came around, it's a gun site, they used to call it the submarine, it weighs about 6.5 pounds, generation device, some of you old timers are, well I don't mean to do that, but some of you old timers are quite familiar with the device and you still see them offered every now and then. Sarco says they refurbish them with new tubes, I don't know how exactly they do that. but anybody else that's refurbishing them, they pop the tube out, they paint it, they put on fresh decals, they put the tube back in it no matter how many hours they're on the tube. Next generation devices, you guys are going to get about 1,500 hours out of the tube. If you treat it real good, you can pull that bell curve out to maybe 16, 17, maybe 1,800 hours. But again, that's not looking at a fire, not looking at tail lights, not looking at the moon, and even staying away from porch lights and such. There's limited time in each tube, much like there's limited, you know, these LED television screens. When you buy one, does the salesman tell you there's a lifetime in it? At any rate, a generation device should get about 1,500 hours out of it, maybe 18. American second generation tubes were claimed life of 2,500 hours. Now, American second generation tubes are getting kind of like hen's teeth, unless they're new old stock, they're brought back out of active service, as example the pvs-2s that have unknown amount of hours on them. I'm thinking about eight or nine years ago now, maybe a little bit farther back than that, ITT lit up the line and ran second generation tubes for about four months and flooded the market for the time and all of those are gone now. A brand new American second generation tube around. Which leads me to the Belgian tubes and the Russian tubes. Now, the Russian tube is about, they're saying 4,000 and 5,000 hours life. The Belgian tubes are saying 5,000 to 7,000 hours life on a second generation tube. That's quite the accomplishment there. Considering the lifetime of a third generation tube American manufactured, as far as we know, there's no third generation Russian or Belgian. A third generation tube American is 9,000 to 10,000 hours lifetime. 9,000 to 10,000 hours lifetime. generation tube is getting up there in longevity close to the third generation's length of lifetime or service. There's X amount of lifetime in the tubes and we've done that gradient. I'll do it again. You guys, if you've got moon in the sky, you'll be happy with your first generation device. Good contrast in the background so that you're not looking at a camouflaged person, perfectly camouflaged. If you've got kind of good contrast in the background in a full moon, you can target with that first generation device to two and even 300 yards. Again, as long as you've got the targets not hidden, you've got good contrast to the background, like a person walking against a building, a person walking against just a different, even a desert background. As long as that person is moving, is not well camouflaged, so to speak, dug in like a Georgia tick. I stole that phrase from somewhere I can't remember. Second generation in the same power, you'll probably pound another 200 yards onto that with a full moon, depending on, again, the background, what your target exactly is, and the contrast it offers to the background. Third generation, you can put another 100 yards on that probably. Depending on, again, the background, we're talking with a full moon. Now, you knock this down to no moon, and that first generation device is probably going to be 60, 70, maybe 100 yards. Again, depending on contrast, depending on the background, depending on what your target is, how your target appears. Second generation is probably going to be about 200 yards, 150 to 200 yards. That depends, all the aforementioned parameters. Third generation is put another 50 or 100 yards on it. By the time you get no moon, there's hardly any ambient light that even a night vision device will work with. Again, this goes back over. We've talked about this. This is why you don't see great amounts of magnification like you would in a daytime scope. 18 power, 22 power. You don't see that in night vision. You want a lot of light to get to the image intensifier tube, the night vision tube. You don't put a whole lot of glass in front or prisms or other things that we use to magnifying image. At any rate, when you look at different applications, another way to run out a performance parameter would be to say, we quit using first generation in Vietnam in like 70-71. That's when PBS-4, as many of you are familiar with those, came online and they were issued a second generation device. Now, for a little while, made in kind of two ways. It was made with two different sized tubes and even third generation, but was a 25mm tube and that was second and third generation and then the industry went to an 18mm tube. We're talking not the outside dimension, we're talking the external diameter of the image intensifier. That can go into a body that might be, instead of 25mm or 18mm, that body might be 3 inches across. You see an older second or third generation piece and you pick it up and you change light levels real quick like you look from the edge of a porch light into the dark or into the dark to the edge of a porch light and you see what looks like chicken wire fencing in it, that's a pretty good example of an older second or third generation tube in 25 millimeter. That would give you an idea that, well, this tube has been around for a good long time because it hasn't been manufactured in a good long time. And you might want to, if someone's offering that like used, you might want to offer them bottom dollar for it because you don't know how many hours are on it. but it's obviously a tube that's been around a good long time. That change came in the late 80s and there were still a bunch of 25mm tubes around into the 90s. You won't see one new anymore. But again, another thing if you're looking at somebody says, oh I got this viewer here or I've got this gun sight. And it's second generation and you can, I'll sell it to you for $900, it lists for $1,400 or $1,700, whatever. Just numbers, you know what I mean? When you turn a first generation device on, there's only one first generation device that I know of that comes on right away and shuts right off. Any second, third, or fourth generation night vision device, it needs power to run. You turn the power on, it powers up very fast. You turn the power on, you turn the power off. the device goes off. Most of you might have noticed if you have a first generation PCU, you turn the power on. It takes a moment to bring up an image, a moment definition 20 seconds, it doesn't take that long. But it takes three or four seconds to bring up an image. Now, once you've got that image and you're out there looking around in the dark and observing, when you turn that first generation device off, you might have noticed that you still produce an image because the tube is cooling down. Time frame produce an image for you. This is one of the ways to increase the life of your first generation tube. Turn it on, warm up the tube, turn it off. Let the tube cool down a bit, turn it back on, let the tube warm up. This is one of the indicators for CERT that this is a first generation device. You turn it on, it takes a moment to bring up an image. You turn it off and it still produces an image for a while. Whereas, I remind you, second, third and even fourth generation, you turn the device on, it comes right on. You turn the power off, the device goes right off. Those are pretty good indicators as far as someone telling you, oh, I got this second, or they might even tell you it's a third generation. And if they tell you it's a third generation gun sight, they might want $3,000 or $4,000 for it when it's a first generation gun sight. And I can offer you a first generation gun sight for $375. So there are some parameters when you're out there in the world and you come across somebody who, you know, at a gun show or something wants to increase his margin, I guess you'd say, you know, make a whole lot of profit or generally just, you know, kind of cheat you. Some things to look out for. Now, you guys, we've talked about keeping batteries around. That's one thing that needs to be, it's not like a daylight device, you know, even a lot of daylight devices, you guys these days have a lighted reticle, a lit reticle. So you need a battery for that, otherwise you're just, you know, some people get used to those red lines. Now, let's talk about that for a moment, because earlier in the day we talked about using daylight scopes down into no or rather low light conditions. Some of them will work into real low light, depending on how big the front lens is and how good the glass is. Now, if you're looking at someone way over there and you've got your daylight scope and it's just in that many of you might have experienced deer hunting or hunting other things, you get to that point at night. Just before it gets dark, when, man, it's just dark enough I can make an image out, I could target there, but I can't see my reticle. I can't see my aim point in the tube. So what do you do? You reach over there real slow and you push that button or you turn that knob or you pull on it and man, the reticle lights up red. I regret not showing this in the Night Vision movie, but we've addressed this a number of times. If you're looking at someone who has a piece of night vision and he looks back at you, that red is going to stand out like a dinky match. Like someone's just lit a match, only you just lit a match and you're holding it in front of your face and the guy over there with the night vision is looking at you. He's looking down the tube. See, that red light goes out of the front of the tube also of your daylight device. We've cautioned you on this before. There's a discipline there to be maintained if you're going to work daylight scopes into low light, be it dusk or dawn. Something to pay attention to there. Just a warning, a caveat. Now, we've talked about illuminators. Let's talk about illuminators some more. We'll rapidly approach the bottom here, but you guys, An illuminator is going to emit light that is invisible to the human eye. Some illuminators you'll look at the device when it's on and it's like you just bit a kitchen match, blow it out in that blow of the match for an instant after the fire leaves. That's what you'd see. But the light that's going down range is invisible to the human eye. It goes back over to someone looking right at you or a night vision device looking right at you. More on that. Because if you're moving or if you're sitting someplace and you turn on your illuminator, be it first, second, or third generation, almost every night vision device is going to have an illuminator. Some military devices, typically contracted, won't have an illuminator because they don't want the guy to turn it on. Now there's a big thing to be learned there. They want to remain passive. They don't want to emit any light in order to give away their position. We've talked about this a number of times. You're moving through an area and someone is over-watching that area with a piece of night vision. You move from place to place. There are different ways to do this. You can do it with goggles. You can walk with goggles that are two tube system. You can look and see basic deduction where you're going to put your foot, what you're reaching for, and when you close your fingers generally. a slight bit of acclimating to the device, you'll pick up what you're after. Maybe not something as thin as a dime. When you're moving from area to area, you might be in a situation where it's real low light. We've talked about bounding as a way to move with night vision. You move to an area. You've already predetermined that area, as described momentarily. But you move to an area, you turn the night vision device on, you scan where you want to be, you scan the flanks of your travel, your pathway, to the best of your ability. You make certain that the coast is clear. That's more a naval term, but it fits across the board, doesn't it? You come to the conclusion that you're fit to travel through this area, or you have determined that it would be, to our knowledge, we can make it from here to the next So to speak, waypoint. You turn the night vision off, you make it over there, you turn the night vision on, you scan again. That's another way to increase the life of your device. Another thought line is you're going to burn it all the time and you're going to be constantly looking. There's two different schools. That doesn't mean that, well, if I say I'm going to turn it off here and I'm not going to turn it back on until I get to that next waypoint, that doesn't mean that I'm not going to turn it on. That's just a general guideline. And if need be, I'll turn it on and shoot the tiger or the, you know, moose or the two-legged snake. Give me just a second, please. And employing the technology accordingly when the time comes. Exactly. Go right ahead, please. Thank you, Mark. Exactly. You know, it's like the guy with the flamethrower doesn't walk around with it turned on all the time. You know, he doesn't come off the landing craft. And, you know, not everybody's got a flamethrower, but again, It was addressed the other day, you know, in certain places you might not want to walk around with one in the chamber. But again, there's different thought lines on if you're going to be moving. If you're going to be stationary, you know, the listening post, observation post, there's a reason that the word listening is there first. Because at night, a long time ago, the only way at night, this is true, you guys, listening post, observation post. At night, what could you employ on a real dark night? if you couldn't see very far. Your ears, your listening, observation post, listening post you guys, really and truly it's an LP listening post, observation post. But when you have the ability to look around at night, you might not sit there and burn the night vision all night. You might set up trip wires, you might set up other things, you might move into or deploy in areas that force the other side to move into your lanes, to your front. That can be from any of the geographical advantages or arrays, the way the ground is laid, or the water, or the tree line, or whatever. Understand that, know how to work the land better, and you will make all of your other tools work better. Because you can use the land like a tool. And when you figure out how to work the land better and to your advantage, It helps to keep your other tools working longer, doesn't it? One of the things we've talked about, and you guys, you might want to try this if you've got a piece of night vision, and if you've got a couple pieces of night vision, you can double up on this and even do teams of two or three as you walk away from each other in a good distance, find a country road or something, and learn the limits of your device. You might have two or three people on each device or two or three people on each team and they each have their own. You have a radio and you're talking to the other group and the group is walking one way down a flat road and your group is walking the other and you keep looking back at each other and you say, man, you come to that point where there's a phrase in night vision in the night vision industry called distance of recognition and distance of detection. Now, that goes back over to the aforementioned, see that tank way over there? That's just represented by a few dots on your television screen, the little television screen that you're looking at, you know, in your night vision device. But by the time it moves closer until it becomes three or four dots and then it's seven or ten and now that's detection range. but by the time it moves close enough that it is represented by just enough pixels, little dots, that you can recognize it as a tank, that's recognition range. Another way to put it would be does that man have a rifle in his hand or a broom? Again, detection or recognition range. So when we talk about like first generation targeting at like 300 or even perhaps even 400 yards in full moonlight, We're talking at 300 or 400 yards. You're shooting into that area certain that there are none of our boys there because you're going to be shooting more into the area of detection instead of recognition. I can see the target. I know that's oppositional force there. And hey, it's moving like a person. It does not appear to be a deer. In fact, that deer didn't just climb out of that armored vehicle and start walking over there. So again, what you see with a piece of paper, that's a real hard thing to describe in an audio world, Mark. That was a good challenge. Thank you very much. One of the things here again too to remember is with most of our technology we have overlapping, well there are several factors. There's a timeline, a 30 day plus minus timeline for supplemental natural lighting. In addition to that, remember that depending on how remote you are, example, I would figure that the Bundy Ranch or any of the locations that we've described down on the border, short of being near any of the border towns, if you're deployed on the border, night glow or secondary glow or reflection is not as likely. Now remember again the environment you're looking at with regard to Nevada. Dry conditions, minimal moisture, minimal cloud cover. So you have less reflective surfaces at night perhaps to take advantage of man-made secondary lighting that typically can assist in improving your collection capability. One of the reasons you see so many, although you don't as much anymore, see so many stars in the desert, it's not so much that Oh, the air is so clear anymore, again, the aforementioned not so much anymore. It's the lack of city, the lack of ambient light that makes the surroundings darker. Which activates, it activates the air, works the molecules, actually is reflecting everything, you know, again, works as a prism. And that, of course, you know, creates, what it does is creates a layer of light that actually hampers the passing of softer light from greater distances from, you know, moving through that atmosphere. creates a tier or a layer depending upon it. Again, remember there are layers to the atmosphere itself. The other consideration here as we've pointed out many times is creating secondary lighting. Again, one of the most important things is offset. Think deco lighting. Now, deco lighting, remember, was either up in the eaves of the ceilings of a room and in a shelf so that it created upward, softened light or indirect lighting, which of course creates a neat shadow effect. It creates the image, if done right, of a higher vaulted ceiling. That was the original intent behind it, to create the illusion that, wow, look how tall it is. Well, you don't think about looking up, but in your peripheral vision, you're given the impression of height, when in reality, the room's no bigger than it ever was in any other area. The interesting thing is that indirect lighting used on the ground, remember we want to illuminate and brighten up the enemy's eyeballs. We don't want to need the light pointed towards us. Or we don't need omnidirectional. So whenever possible, unless we're using that light source as a benchmark for range, And if we do that, we may also want to restrict it in such a way that in reality it can't even be seen from the sides, let alone from the direction the enemy's coming. Now there's a reason for this. This allows us, if we have a fixed position for a series of shooting points, we're able to look down range and we can ID and benchmark specific distance in, say, 50 or 100-yard increments. That's another little trick with little pieces of PVC pipe. An LED light. and knowing what direction your shooting position or your defensive position is oriented from the perspective of the lighting assembly directed towards the use point, the collection point for your shooter. Now, the other thing is, a combination is making a decision, do you want to go with observable light or infrared? Because we do have that option now, guys. This is also true with laser. We can go with infrared laser, we can go with purple laser, green laser, yellow laser, lavender laser, red, orange, oh we got recolor of the rainbow right now on lasers. It'd be kind of fun to do a rainbow laser. Hey, you know, faggot town, catch this one. Get a little stipple of dots, the full color of rainbow before you pull the trigger. Kind of scary, but you could do it, theoretically you could do it. Well, the thing is that those colors also, of course, with night vision you're not going to be able to observe the colors, but with conventional optics or with your eyesight, natural eyesight, you can confirm color with regard to a particular object, with a sighting if need be. But the thing here with alternate lighting is, again, to establish it in such a way that it enhances and increases your range or your ability to specifically pick out targets in a more detailed fashion. We talked about area fire, cones of fire, traditional night fire is three round burst. There's a reason for that. Even going back to the American war for independence and before guys, you had buck and ball. Now ball was normally loaded, musket ball, was normally loaded during the day, though I don't think they really cared as long as you were putting bullets down range which you loaded depending on the situation but Typically at night you went to buckshot and again it was typically large ball and usually three pellets per load. Here we go, gee, a three-round burst. Although it all went out the tube at once, later on the basic formula, if you've had any night vision training at all, is to use a tri-burst pattern on target, 1, 2, 3. Now in the old days the A1 was select fire completely so you had to know your weapon and know when to pull off or squeeze off three rounds. We went the other extreme with three round only on the A2, remember the M16A2, didn't have full auto as you knew it. It had semi and three round burst. So again they restricted, they automatically restricted the operator. They went to the other extreme which had disadvantages in and of itself but as much as anything it probably helped in that it confined or contained the operator to focusing on trying to bring the weapon probably back on target. So there are pluses and minuses to the argument there and at night especially guys, it is bad enough to see bullets cracking over people's heads because everybody's told aim center a mass high or I'm gonna do a headshot. Well yeah but between the adrenaline rush and panic shooting and pulling rather than squeezing, the bad guys on the other side get to hear a lot of And as long as they hear that, they know they're not dying. You know what I mean? Because what that is, that's that hypersonic crack as everything's popping over your head there. OK? By the way, while we're talking, guys, we've had a really dark front move in. And it's really hazy and kind of ominous looking out there. And now it doesn't sound right, and the rain has stopped. Just as a heads up here, guys, I think I've seen this before. a couple years ago. Anyway, we've got storm fronts here. So pay attention if you're on the road, thinking about driving through the southern part of Michigan. I want to kind of change your mind for a little bit there and wait to see where the storm goes and check the weather, the real weather satellite imagery. Don't trust the weather station. They're doing all about the Philippines and they won't tell you Jack squat that won't be outdated and simply obsolete. Anyway, Illumination can be from the operator, but another cool thing is to set up secondary illumination that can be switched on and off at your discretion that is totally disassociated from you. If somebody wants to lay fire to it with weapons, you don't care. There's nobody there to shoot at. In fact, it is a great way to draw attention under the assumption that, well, we're stupid, they're not. So we're not going to be bright enough to actually have activating infrared technology out there so we could illume the battlefield. We're just dumb, lethal people. Well, we've talked about directing. Like, you know, barbed wire is only as good as the gun that overlooks it. The rifleman behind it, exactly. Now, if you were to lay a particular way in the land that Someone stepped on something, someone drew their ankle across something and a light went on to their forward and flank. Now that light could be an infrared and now they would know it because probably one of them has got a piece of night vision. Now if you did that right, there are so many different ways that you could pan that intermittently instead of mechanically so it just wiggles back and forth over what appears to be the battlefield. If it is too regular, in a moment it will be recognized as mechanical. They'll probably think that no one is there. But if someone steps on something, an infrared light lights up an area to their front and flank left or right, they might think that, well, I don't want to go over there because someone's looking into that area with a piece of night vision. And when they think they don't want to go over there, they want to go someplace else, like around the edge of that. skirting it by a hundred yards or a hundred miles, whatever they choose. So you think like barbed wire, think like light mines. The light goes off, they don't want to go there. They're going to want to figure out why the light went off. But remember that curiosity killed the what? Oh no, I was thinking along this line, the two legged moose or the two legged snake or the blue helmeted rat bass. Yep, what's over a blue? There. Yeah. So as they try to avoid the light they saw come on, they move into an area or appear, you know, gee, let's not go there, let's go over here. And when they go over there, they hurt. See how that works? Now we talk about it on the air. So they think that, well, we know all about it. But when you're presented with it, you have to make that choice. Are we going to walk through that light? Are we going to go around it? So it's a human, it can't be avoided. Don, I'm going to step away for just a minute. Go ahead and take care. Keep doing what you're doing, please. They would do the same to you. Use light, infrared, not witnessed by the human eye, or white light. If you're operating at night and an area comes up to white light, you don't want to go in there. If you're operating at night, you're trying to use that cloak of darkness, right? Now, here's another thing, that cloak of darkness. That's kind of not exactly a cliche, but you know there are a couple others that involve darkness like Undercover of the night now, let's talk about the difference there because let's talk about concealment for a moment Because the night will conceal you but it will not cover you the night will conceal you unless somebody turns a white light on you or a piece of night vision infrared or green screen the night will conceal you The night will not cover you. The difference between cover and concealment, I hide behind a 12-inch tree with my shoulder to it, sofiled behind the tree. Concealment, if someone is shooting a .30-06 or .338 or .50 cal, because it's not even going to think about that tree. It's going to plow right through that tree and then me. That's concealment. Cover is brick wall, you know, like you're in a trench, armor, that you could call armor cover. But the difference between cover and concealment, you guys, that should be known. It's been more than one general, although the last time I remember some Marine general said, I can teach you how to hit a target. I can teach you how to hit a target you can see. I can teach you how to shoot at a target. I can teach you how to hit a target you can't see. There are a number of ways you can hit a target you can't see. Again, the guy hiding behind the drywall, two layers of drywall in a building, in a house. It's really more like you don't know exactly where he is, so he's concealed, but he doesn't have a whole lot of cover there. We've talked about this in a number of different ways, but you guys, more and more you're going to have to treat the nighttime just like it's daytime. You cannot count on the cover. or concealment of darkness. Again, how many people own these little digital video camera with a nighttime setting? I have one. I have never set the nighttime, I might do that tonight, turn it on night vision and take it outside and see what it does at night. But how many people own one of those? It's not like 1984 when night vision was really wild. Wow, that's one in 10,000 citizens, one in 40,000 citizens owned a piece of night vision. We're just talking about citizens, not to mention any sort of military police or other policy enforcement or law. You have to understand that that cover of darkness, that concealment that dark brings or offers you is more and more fleeting. You have to treat the nighttime more and more like the daytime. Who was it that I'm trying to think of his name? Kulak starts out a chapter of his book First to Fight for eons or for centuries soldiers of which they could see in the dark. That's the first I'm paraphrasing it. And truly the world changed. However, it quickly can go in the other direction. One of the things to remember is with the machinery, let's say that all the doom scenarios everybody's talking about, play out. Well, the factories that are so specialized that they make night vision technology wouldn't survive because the intricacies, the special materials, the technology, the more intricate and sophisticated the technology, the first it is to go. So what you have is you have. So you treasure it, you covet it, you protect it, you husband it. And you do that from the beginning, you don't do it like, whoa, gee, it's nothing serious now. I just realized I can't get anymore finally. We were told months ago or years ago. Oh yeah, but now we've got to really be careful. Make every bullet count. See, if you made every bullet count from the get-go with the proper attitude, then you'd have more bullets to get through even to the end. You know what I mean? Or get through to the other side of the wall. But it's interesting that it's always after things get dire that you start to hear these comments that otherwise, wouldn't that make sense to be doing that from the get-go? How about if we take and embrace that policy and use it to the extreme? We've been in this life raft for three weeks now. I think we should start to ration the last quart of water. Do you think? Yeah, well, before. Before and letting it spill from our lips. Don't you always love that when people are in trouble like that and you see these guys gulping water and it's spilling out the side of their face? And then they pour it all over their head. Yeah, and then they throw the cantina away. Don't forget that too. Halfway across the desert you get to the oasis, but you almost died covering the first half How do you get across the other half without the canteen you throw away? It just miraculously reappears You just ejected one out of your rumpus. I missed it. In fact, there wasn't anything hanging in front of you. No straps. Your shirt was open. You were all sweaty. You were caked with dust in your face. Your lips were cracked. You even had a scene where you dripped the last drip and looked at your cantina in disgust and threw it away. All of a sudden, two scenes later, after you're leaving the Oasis, it's just a miracle. It's a miracle. You stopped at the cantina store. Oh no, you stopped at the cantina. Anyway, before we go, there's a couple things here. I'm going to abbreviate this whole thing. We've got to get past this. There are two things that are mapped out, and one is where somebody is talking to Mr. X and how they planned on co-iminating everybody. And this is how the whole thing, the pot was stirred, is that they were going to co-iminate everybody, really. And when it was asked, what do you think is going to happen? Well, they're going to take care of that. they would take care of that you know the words well the people are not going to put up with all that they could have a better take care of that really this is not nineteen ninety three okay that world is gone number one the other thing is all this debate and and there's a couple things that have shown up in this thing but i'm not quite something out here so it works some stranger from half a country away called up and said you're good We're going to die! Well, not we're going to die, but you're going to die, and the dermatoids, the hemorrhoids, the nematodes, whatever is coming is coming. And then the images dance like sugar plums, dance in their heads. And they all got together at the other end, and they all agreed to run. Now, the militia didn't tell them to run, but the Oathkeeper people, they worked themselves up into this, guys. They went back and forth and all the images from Fox News and all the images from all these other BS programs and they even watched all the propaganda generated how its fuel will resist over and over again. Drown it tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Meanwhile, the militia held their ground, literally. In the process, several people started asking the right questions even as things developed and said, where did you get this idea from? Who said we had to leave? Several of the people who were with the Oathkeeper organization stayed. So not everybody in the oath came from the management ran and many of the people or other people ran because they were terrified. Now I'm going to point something out about this and I printed this in one of the articles as a comment. The group of people we're talking about claim that they have been professionals. Am I right or am I wrong Don? That's what they say. In fact that's the whole basis of their backing up their oath. Exactly, they're oath keepers, right? And they all boast and the whole premise of everything that they do is they're so much farther along than you and me because they are oath keepers and they were all professionals. In other words, they were all regulars. Been there, done that. In other words, that term regulars comes to mind. Now, on the other hand, the uncouth, the unwashed, the unclean, the not sanctioned by Mr. Viar. This BS keeps coming up all over the place that, well, unless it's sanctioned by this twit who, of course, isn't going to get out and uniform himself and is telling everybody else, especially those people who are the standard ring knockers and those who believe they're going to be the foofoos of the next element of the movement, the next step in what's going on. Then you got this character because he- they like what he says, because only special people will be in the militia. The militia can't be, you know, all of you guys doing this, you know, those guys doing- oh no! There has to be special approval from the lodge. Oh, oh, did I say that? You see the game being played here, but here's the thing. The uncouth, the unwashed, the old were just not as good as, are the militia that held their ground while the regulars ran. No, I've... That's the bottom line. Not... And all of the gobbledygook, I have my... squeezed my brain through this first thing that was done for old keepers. And it's like it goes back to trying desperately to flip this around. It's all the malicious fault because they didn't run with us. If they run with us, they couldn't have said anything. So they set us up because we ran and the militia didn't. That's the argument. That's compressing their article. with also the fact that we're not the right militia because Mr. Bayard and a bunch of special private people who have special, given special title to themselves are all telling us about how we're not the properly cleansed, you know, slash anointed by those who want to be the next click coming in. You see? Yeah. So the unwashed and the unclean didn't join with everybody else in the bug out. and for that reason darn the militia held and the regulars slash the professionals left it's that simple not kind of warned everybody about this for the longest time now don't give a shit excuse me ask what about all forgive me about the organization but the bottom line is guys that it is the everytime there is this plastic feeling it's what it's what i don't want to describe it if this plastic feeling and a disingenuous attitude. In other words, not genuine. Or at least, again, it's the camping mentality. And as several people pointed out, it's like, well, if they weren't there to support and fight as the militia, then what were they there for? I mean, and what will happen? Let's say that everybody, the institution is supposed to come back. Are they supposed to be there so that they can be the mediator for surrender? Is that their mission? What's the purpose here? If it isn't to stand ground and hold ground and fight if need be, again, to defend literally with heart and soul. You see? There's no explanation otherwise. It doesn't make any sense. Now granted, there are some other people we don't get good feelings about. And yes, there's something else going on in the wings, but the militia didn't make oathkeepers do anything, and they're trying to completely flip this around. And well, there's a lot of real big questions about this and that and the other, because of oathkeepers and blah, blah, blah, and the militia doesn't like oathkeeper. Nobody in the militia has ever said that they do not like oathkeepers. I have never seen that. That is a fiction. It doesn't in any way, shape or form apply, per se. Except now, after the fact, where people are like, where the hell did they go? What the hell were they doing? And why were they doing that? You see, that's the question that came about. And it's a rightful question. And it's an issue that, again, with regard to what has transpired, needs to be addressed. That's what people are doing and that's what they're uncomfortable about because it means you have to follow through and ask the rest of the right questions. So that's what we're dealing with. But again, we need to kill it. They're gone. And I don't see them really coming back and if they do, the individuals may come back. But I don't see anybody trusting the institution, the mechanism itself, and it really, by what they've already stated in their argument, they're not needed anyway. They won't serve any purpose there guys. You see what I mean? I mean, what were they doing? If their argument, even as they say in the evil militia guys, they aren't really sanctioned anyway. They're not really authorized. They're not really special enough. Well, the really special people ran while the unbathed and unclean heathen militia stayed. See how that works? So again, and by the way, the captain and the crew do not get in the lifeboat first until all the women and children are out. Everybody remember that one? Think about it. Just something to consider. Anyway, go ahead. We have a caller. Who do we have? Yeah, Mark. You got to remember that Yule keepers while they were there put 40 grand into that, into their 501c3 corporation. They wrote Clive in a check for 12.5. And you know they left because the money stopped coming in. This is what happens when you want, you know, when the money stops, you're gone. And that's exactly what they did. When the money stops, the business walks. Well, here's one of the things I would point out with that is, and they kept emphasizing, here's one of the things I'd address. Number one, Mr. Bundy is being attacked by who? government right? Isn't he being attacked by government? Don't we know that government of course has all kinds of tendrils and they scrub each other's back between the banks and the Fed right? So why would I cut a check to the Bundy's in a situation where they now have to find a way to cash it? We didn't give them cash, we gave them a check. I wouldn't compliment you on that one. In other words, why did you give them an instrument that is most likely to be latched by their enemy? What about the other 32 grand? Well, like I said before, if you treat it like a party, some people stay at the hotel and let's see, what's the cheapest hotel you're going to find out there and I guarantee they didn't use the cheapest. You know what I mean? Because people usually who are bureaucrats don't think that way. You and I, we think about sleeping on the couch. Some place where I can find a place to lay down. But I've watched this for years. There are people who, hell, some of them when we were at the height of the movement in the 90s were demanding whole floors of hotels and armies of bodyguards. Does everybody understand that? And if it doesn't have a spa, we're not staying there. Oh yeah, and they even were starting to require what hotels they were demanding that they be put into if they were going to come in. And only if it was one of those classier ones and there was a list. They actually generated lists. Now, I didn't see that here, but again, and there's a whole bunch of things that were talked about. Well, again, the Porta Potty thing is kind of interesting because the conversation I had with our person on the ground out there is the guy who provided the Porta Potties, Canopies, and all the other stuff. He provided them directly to them and there wasn't any fee. Okay, that's talking to the people who, in fact, the people who were involved in the ground area were talking from other directions and explained, well, and this is separate from this thing I just read, but common sense would dictate that, well, since we know how they're attacking the Bundy's and what they're going to do to them and what they plan on doing in the long run, cutting a check isn't doing them a service. Cutting them a check is screwing them. Common sense would dictate that you should translate it out into cash or it should if it was already translated into cash, you should have stayed as cash and it should have been transferred over to the Bundy's as cash. Whatever there was left that wasn't being used for ice cubes. I saw that on the list of things and it's like ice cubes and it's like oh yeah well they They have to count for Harry Reid. That comes down to this 501c3 nonsense again. Everybody I see worshipping this BS over and over again has failed or stumbled because they're worshipping the machine. They claim that they're resisting, but they're worshipping the machine. And therein lies the rub. That's what I see as a problem. Anyway, it's very simple. Nobody made them do what they did Saturday night. They chose and moved on. I like him. This is one of our friends. You remember the music, man? You know how they came to the conclusion that they had to leave? They got this message from Mr. X Z Y slash the guy half a country away and that everybody was going to die and they were going to drop everything and everything was surrounded and they were all going to be executed and exterminated and blah blah blah blah blah. So they ran to the hotel so they'd all be in one place so they could be exterminated in one place and be cleaner and drier I assume. Because if they were planning on making sure there'd be no inward survivors and outward survivors and the drone of toys were going to attack but they were going to surround and kill everybody, that's one of the other explanations here that there was a logical thing was happening going on. They then went back to a hotel and cluster screwed in one place. Well, if they're that bold and brazen and the scam that the Mr. X fool kept saying was, oh well, they'll handle it if they have to do a drone attack. And they could handle it if they have to kill everybody. And they could really, they can. Well, try it. Watch and see what happens. That's all I can say. And I think everybody else is pretty well at the same boiling point with regard to that too, all over the country, not just us. And we are talking riot. Ain't nobody I know gonna be rioting. They may feel a cold thump to the back of their head from a ball peen hammer at two in the morning and not expect as they're creeping out of their car. But that's about it. Because everybody will go out and find what's on their shopping list and decide what the hell we better do this hard before this really kicks in. And we are pesticide. Yes we are. But the thing about this is again, hey, the regulars left the militia state. But remember the music man. I want to do this real quick. Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, Okay, if they did it on the US soil, what was going to happen? Everybody was going to rise up. So hey, we're going to bail because that's the last thing we want is actually to make a stand. Oh, wait a minute. Wasn't that what we said we were here for? We are at the top and for everybody out there, Don, your number for night vision will be available in just a minute. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. And that one scene from the Patriot. And mostly what we have is militia as he throws the pen to the ground and somebody looks off to the side and goes, yeah, thank God sir, the rest of them left and headed for the motel. Okay, Don, you never put that vision in closes, please. It's 23179684582317968458. Thank you, Mark. God bless America. The sons, yes we are the sons, the sons of liberty. Ice, they're asking for, it's always pirate sweet. Never give up the struggle, boys, the liberty freak, it's a toss.