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If you see someone just jumping off the wall and you're going, wow! Of course, it's like, we'll go wow with you. How's that sound? Bunny situation We've got all the stuff in motion either it's shipped or we've got another batch. It's gonna be boxed up I have to get a price. I will not have a price until Monday Unfortunately all the way well. I was hoping to get more than a few pallets We're gonna get the one palette that's available somebody and this is a problem when you're dealing with stuff is so cheap one company bought the palette that was already packed the other palette that was there is I've got an inventory sheet. Like I told them, let's save some time. We'll just take everything that's in the bin and give me a price. So as soon as we have that, which will be Monday morning, we'll be shipping that to the Bundy Ranch for reserves and support. Other packages are already on the way. You guys have donated the money for the Bundy Ranch Support Project. Thank you, guys and gals. And what we're going to do is Let's see, we have two other elements. One of them is socks. I decided that since I found a hell of a buy for socks, if we buy all that they've got, then or pretty much we're going to get all that they've got, then that will take care of one item. Also, the other thing had to do with emergency medical supplies and clothing. Actually, once I get done with this, I'm probably going to recommend some of these things for our general listeners. It's from a wholesaler. I'd have to pick them up, or we're going to have to make some kind of arrangement. But it's Czechoslovakian military medical support items that are so stupid expensive if you want to buy them. I wouldn't even think about it, but because they're being made available and they're through a source that now they just seem to have a good connection on Czech equipment. Definitely worthwhile. This is everything from syringes to other items. We're talking not disposable. We're talking the traditional older style reusable syringes, the glass units, the hole in the yard stainless steel and glass. Just a phenomenal piece of equipment. They are artwork. But trying to find them, especially since these are in a transport modular form, the way they're set up, therefore Auto-claving, re-processing, the important thing to remember is the needle issue and right now that's what you want to pile up on is the disposables, the throwaways. So that's the priority right now. These units take all the standard needles without any problem. There are several other items that definitely include medical transport cans, things of that nature that we can focus in that direction. Going to pack one up and shoot it over there to the guys for the medical site, for the bundles and again to support the militia there. Parachibles, we have a pallet of stuff coming in from the southwest over from San Diego. I'll know more about that as far as I'll have a routing sheet on that. I should have it probably on my emails right now, but I haven't had a chance to look in the last half hour. But I should have a routing slip and we may even have that stuff show up over the weekend. I doubt it will be there Saturday. It's in motion and on the road already. It is a short distance. It's only from San Diego to Bunkerville. In fact, everybody said the same thing. Oh yeah, that's right. Normal transport routes are going to be very quick. So more on that. Thank you again for the guys helping out there. We have a lot of people who are going to the barbeque this weekend. It looks like we have friends from the Trenches World Report. Our buddies, our guys and gals, our fellow patriots going down to the Bundy Ranch for the event. Fantastic! Break out the camera and do a recon for us guys. Give us a digital image of the area of operation, points of the compass, north, south, east, west. In addition to that, again, transmit to these people that people out here supporting them, we're going to do what we can and we're going to continue to send material in. The other thing that I'm very concerned about, really concerned about, because this is turning into a replay of the gray siege, uh... point-for-point day-by-day because of this we need to get gas masks on site we need one or two models only we don't need a whole meal but i mean it where they get we get if anybody's got something that they can you know do maybe they got a supplier fine but there are couple different companies where we can get something decent let me give everybody a recommendation if somebody wants to do this they could do this right now uh... effect amigo into the Okay, www, this is a jobber, actually it's a wholesaler guys, www.marspec.net, www.marspec.net. You can use this, all of you people can use this provider, but remember this is a wholesaler, they're not talking about onesies or twosies. However, they don't have much. They used to have about 20 different types of gas masks in inventory. However, I do not know because they're not great about keeping this inventory page up the way they should. If you go to Gas Masks and NBC, they have one French chemical suit, a coverall. I'm not really worried about that. It's not a bad price for $4.75. It's a usable piece of equipment. The one gas mask they do have is the USSR DDR civilian GP5 gas mask. It is the large round eye model. It does not have a voice meter, which is fine, but it does take standard 40 millimeter filters and it's a possum mask. It is a skull mask. Now these do come in sizes but if you were to buy a quantities if somebody wants to buy $100 worth of these guys call them up you know get hold of them make it a bulk purchase and have it drop shipped to the Bundy's okay Don't say anything other than just you're interested in buying the masks. Maybe you'll see something else there you want anyway. This company used to be really big on footwear and has little to nothing in the way of footwear anymore. It's just an example of the change in the US surplus industry and how it works. But there are some other things there that if you're looking at bulk orders, if you're willing to buy, again you should buy 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 or something, this is definitely worthwhile. Okay. But with the gas masks, it's the cheapest if they have it in stock. Here's the problem. I don't know if they have this in stock. I did not get through to them. I'm going to send them an email today. But if they have this gas mask, it's the cheapest mask on the market for a backup. This is basically this mask is what I carry as a backup in my Alice pack as a second gas mask. Now there's a reason for that. They're ultra lightweight. The Russians built them as a use it and lose it mask. They're designed to be used and considered if they're contaminated, they're just thrown away with all the other decongunk and you get a new mask. But for utility masks just to have on the shelf to keep you alive, more than enough, very effective, and the price is right at $4.75 a unit. Now, as far as I know, this comes with the filter. This is not with the filter missing. So if you look at what filters cost right now, you're getting the, yeah, the filters are, okay, right at the bottom here, they do have the subnote. Mostly gray, civilian, now that means they may have some of the black models. New with some shelf wear, that means they're dusty. With used NATO filter, that's normal with a lot of these. Filter appearance may vary from photo, that's because there's the OD green, there's the clamshells with Swiss. Whatever they've got on the mask, hey, it's a filter, it'll give you something to work with. We can go from there, but the basic mask is the big thing for the price, and you're getting a filter locked into it. I don't think you're getting a bag by the sound of it, and that's not a problem. Any gas mask bag will work with these. The M17 bags are cheap cheap for the canvas ones. This will go right into an M17 bag and you can carry it that way or put it on station that way. The idea behind this is again we get masks on site so there's a solution somebody wants to jab up you know some resources into that and then you know shuttle it out there or get it pointed right out to the Bundy Ranch right away then go to marspec.net M-A-R-S-P-E-C marspec.net they do have a bunch other stuff that's pretty reasonable but they do have socks They've got Dutch tan socks, $1.50 a pair. They've got Dutch black socks, $1.50 a pair. These aren't the regular military boot socks, but they are military socks. German off-white socks for $1.25 a pair. Those appear to be a DDR type, possibly dress sock, or they could be a Navy dress sock. and check OD cello socks for 90 cents a pair. Now the cello socks are not the longer boot sock that everybody is familiar with. Typically it's army. They're a straight line sock. They're acrylic, I understand, acrylic, polyester, wool combo. And they're serviceable. So for $90 a pair, that's not bad. Size varies. But they're not a real long, long sock. The check thing is just one of those that they built. That's the second cheapest pair of socks I can find in the system. So there's another option for you. And again, remember if you're going to purchase a bunch of these, try to do $100 worth, $50 worth of each item, because it's a wholesaler. This is not a retail company. This is a wholesaler. Okay, I'm just going to remind you of that. There's a bunch of other stuff in there, too numerous to mention. Go through their pages top to bottom and see if there's anything else that you're really excited about But this is a way to get stuff to the Bundy's now before we go any farther. Do we have any colors? Yeah, go ahead call jump right in their car. This is fluffy good. I did yeah, I didn't hear the the source for the the Russian masks and I have a curly a Connected question about ask Well, first of all, it's www.marspec.net. That's M-A-R-S-P-E-C. They're a wholesaler. They have a number of different things. They only have one mask. Now, a year or two years ago, they had over 20 masks, different styles available. Like I said, they've been burned out. And they're really thin on inventory, this company is, but they've put some pretty good buys on certain things. It is the only mask they carry. If you go to marspec.net, there is a subsection there. You will see gas masks and NBC. When you tap that, The only mask they have is that USSR-DDR, the old East German possum mask is what it is. $4.75 a piece is what they're saying. They've put a used filter on it, but that's typical and it may not be a Western European filter. It could be the Russian filters. A lot of these came and the companies put the filters on them out of the box and that was a mistake, but it's just the way they did things. So, for $4.75, it's the cheapest mask in the market, period, right now. If they have it. Now again, I can't emphasize enough. I don't think you can just be able to do an order via email today, or what you could. I mean, maybe you could do a computer order still today, but I'm not sure. Their website's unique. Dad originally was in surplus for about 40 and still is around. Dad's still there. He's been there for like 40, 50 years in surplus. And the son took over the company. And the son is modernized things, but the son doesn't have the connections that dad had. There's a thing. Yeah, you know, because this, Mar Spec used to be the place to go for military boots. And there aren't any. I don't think they even have them. I'm going to look right now. Well, they've got DDR rubber boots for $4.90 a pair, which is not a bad price for those rubber boots, but they're actually quite heavy, size 6 through size 12. So if you're looking for rubber boots, and remember these are East German Oh, well, they're as long as the regular German jack boots, to give you an idea. Now, something they do have, and I haven't really mentioned on the air, but this is a unique item, if you're looking for a cleated soccer shoe, they have brand new in the box, made by Patrick of France, pliable leather uppers, genuine surplus, brand new Army PT cleat soccer shoes. They're brand new in the box and they're $6.50 a pair. So if somebody has somebody to play soccer or they were looking to outfit a soccer team or whatever, you can't beat the price. $6.50 for a pair of shoes. Now they don't say what size and this is why you're going to have to call them to find out what they have. You can't buy one pair. You're looking at buying quantities of these. But if you're looking, you know, that's an oddball out. But that's the, I mean this is nothing like what he used to carry. He's got shoe laces, German, he's got the rubber boots, and he's got Dutch Army soccer shoes. That's it. But there's a lot of other good stuff. The dynamic of this company has changed. If you look towards the bottom of the page when you go through their items, you'll see some of the other stuff that Dad carried like World War II naval posters. Glassware, Insignia, some of the stuff that was typical for the surplus industry 40 years ago, 30 years ago, 20 years ago. There's still some stuff that they have in stock. The big thing is as far as workable items, things that we need, there's stuff in there. Actually, the best priced item, let me give you an example here. If you're looking for extra gear, one of the things that they have And let's see, belts, webbing and pouches. No, that just has the belts. Hold on here, I'll see if they have it listed. Yes, they do. If you go to... at the bottom of the scroll belts, webbing and pouches. Now, somehow ties show up in the middle of this. You need to explain to me how that works, I don't know. But anyway, he's got DDR grenade bandolier. Now this is like that batch of stuff that they did with KeepShooting.com. You get one, two, three, four, five of the East German splinter pattern, three pocket Grenadier pouches. Now they'll slide onto any type of pistol belt or any kind of belt you want to use. They come with a belt but it's not really a belt. I think the belt he put it on is actually a rifle sling. So you get a rifle sling for an AK-74 and you get five grenade pouches for their three pocket for $4.50. So you're talking less than a dollar a piece for a DDR camouflaged rain pattern grenade pouch, five of them, and you still get a rifle sling with it. I got this sling there. Yeah, so that's worthwhile. That's item number 308127, and it shows up in different listings. Now here's what's funny. If you buy that, that way it's $4.50. But if you buy the individual pouches, they're 90 cents a piece. So which way would I go? Let's see, 5 for 450 and I get an extra strap or belt or whatever it is that's attached to. I think I get five of them and go that way, times a couple of these, or four or five. But you recognize the East German it's the same thing. It's the there the East German the AK mag pouches out there There's the utility bags There's a bunch of stuff that was in that when the East German stuff came out remember back in the 90s and we bought tons of it We have units here that are completely outfitted a top to bottom with the East German DDR uniform gear as it's well made I mean, it's it's basically British gear made in a you know, made it made in the German factory The Brits, it's the same pattern of equipment the Brits were using and all of a sudden when they stopped using it, strangely enough, the same pattern of cutting material showed up in East Germany, almost like the British sold the entire tooling system to the Iron Curtain. Hey! Yeah, you know what they probably did, you know? Because as soon as they stopped, then the Germans had this new gear that they came up with which was nothing more than a rehash of the British stuff. Anyway, it's good stuff. Anything else? Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. Yes, I got offered what sounds like an M9 gas mask. That's the American mask, right? Yes, the M9 to the U.S. In the original bag, and he mentioned that there's also some things in the bag that say something about gas antidotes. Oh, oh, don't say anymore. Oh yeah, it's probably, uh, something that... it shouldn't be there. But if you've got them in there, then grab them and put them off to the side. I think I heard that those are usually like adrenaline or something like that in case you get exposed. Entropene. Yeah, that's why I didn't want to say anymore, but okay, we'll talk about it entropy when you buy gas mass bags Let me put it this way there was a company that was out there that I was buying gas mass bags from okay We bought a pile of them because they were 15 cents apiece So it was a good big everybody was happy he had so many of me want to get rid of them, okay? So he started shipping them to us and we got the first 300 of them Well, apparently when the US Army unit was discharging those bags and those masks, nobody looked inside. And each one of the bags had three atropine serrettes on board. These are auto injectors. And so those are dispersed to one of our NBC units so that we have them centralized. But yes, the atropine is something that was designed. It's not really an antidote. Let's put it this way. It hypes you up to the point where you don't feel bad about what's going on. It's like an adrenaline rush. The idea is it keeps you going. But as far as it being an antidote, well it does counter the effects of what you're being hit with, but I don't know that it stops the effects of what you're hit with. In other words, what the attack is supposed to do is drive down your metabolism. What the atropine does is drives it back up. See? So it does keep you alive. It'll get you out of something. Rather than you starting to drowse and go off and fall over and lay in the swill, the agent, the idea is that you go smack and then you get the hell out of dodge. See? So it's still a good thing. Now the M9, go ahead. I can say he wants 60 bucks for the whole thing and it does have a filter with it. I'm thinking about making him a counter offer. Yeah, make a counter offer because that's a... is it in a can or is it just in the bag? In the bag he says. Okay, because a lot of these came out In the spam can, that's how they came out of strategic reserve storage. I have many of them that are still in the can. They're actually deployed with another unit now because we put all the M9s together years ago just because we had so many of them. And we still have a lot of them. I still have M9s right here around me. Otherwise, all the parts are interchangeable with these M1 or M2U goes. or with the Nokia M60-1s. So as far as interchangeability, when you look at it, if you haven't looked at it yet, take a look at the pictures of the Yugo M1s and M2s that are coming out right now. We've been talking about those. The company just ran out of it, got them in again. But the M61, other than the fact that the finish specific M61s were made for cold weather operations, which is why they have a different kind of voice mitter in the front and exhaust. That's why they've got the little basket thing in the way they're set up with rigid plastic instead of just the round ball rubber cover that you see on the M9. Looks like a rubber lollipop in the front. Gotcha. Okay, it's a good mask. I have no problem with them all. The big thing to remember is BK's pointed out he will be up tonight. We'll reinforce it. As far as I know, New York, you know, old Gun Parts Corporation, old New York Arms, still has the filters. In fact, let's check to see what's going on with that. www.GunPartsCorp. What do you think? $20, $30 offer? Yeah, I'd go 25, 20 to 25. You have to take a look at it. If it looks really clean and it's not, you know, crumply or anything, double check. Two things you want to look at. Number one, inspect the mask. And the way to do this is don't go too extreme, but stretch the areas where the connectors are. Okay? Watch to see if there's no crinkling or breakage there. That's a big thing. Number one. Number two, also inspect the elastic basket, the elastic headbands. Being how it is, as they get older, if they got too hot, or they were left in the wrong environment, or got wet, and were abused, then when you start to pull the elastic apart, you get little bits of split-alene pieces of material coming off. Well, that means that the elastic's breaking down. So keep an eye on both of those items. Well, they're good. Again, the good thing is integrated for parts. There is a company, and I forgive me, guys, I cannot find the name. They're west of the Mississippi. They're over towards Missouri. The guy is a retired U.S. Army major that runs the company, and he's really good because he was in supply, and he has parts. He has parts for the M9, he's got parts, he's got air in there sealed in the foil. In other words, he knows how to keep things sealed. You don't need to rip the bag open to know what it is. So the cool thing is, if when you order it, he's got spare caps, he's got spare lens covers, he's got spare and replacement elastic baskets, elastic head straps, the whole nine yards, the spaghetti strap system, the way it's supposed to go in. And that's nice to have anyway as spares if you have a bunch of those masks. So keep an eye on that. Otherwise, the M9 bag is a little different. Remember too if you want to upgrade, I don't throw any gas mask bags away, but remember that the M9 will fit perfectly into the new M40 Cordura gas mask bags. Because with the filter on the side, it has basically the same dimensions, although the M9 is actually a little smaller in bulk. So it fits very comfortably into the new M40 gas mask bags that are made out of Cordura. They're more water repellent than the whole nine yards. If you want to spend a few pennies, buy one of those for about $4-5. That's an upgrade. And then everybody thinks you got a brand new mask. You know, oh, he's got the new mask bag, which is true. So it's an option. The other thing I was going to point out, one of the other companies, Let's see if I can find it here again. Well again, for everybody out there before we leave it, www.marspec.net. See what they have. See if there's anything that looks like it's exciting that will make you go ooh or aah. But remember that's a wholesaler. That is a wholesaler. That is not a retail company, but if you buy a couple hundred of this or a dozen of that, 20 of this, 20 of that, they'll be more than happy to make an order with you. One of the things they do have are Belgian engineer canvas bags for $1.75 a piece. Now, these bags are great for breakout bags. Remember how I've talked, Fluffy, I've talked about making up a breakout bag for your mags. The Belgian engineer bags are perfect for a lot of you guys have AK mags you want to put away, you want to put a big pile of them together. And this is where your tossers go. Is in a bag like this. You put these over your shoulder. You use these first before you go to your combat load. And because these are the mags that you're going to load into the bag that are going to be dropped. In other words, the plastic mags we were talking about, you know, the cheap, cheap ones. Mark, these won't work that long. Oh, they'll work long enough for that mission. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. You see what I mean? So for $1.75, it's a good bag. It's actually a nice utility bag for a lot of other projects. But a lot of guys use these for Sten gun mags, because they're 13 inches. So they're good and deep. But for the AK mags, or for a lot of stuff where you're looking for a bag that will carry other mags that are kind of odd, this is a good pouch for $1.75. So that's another solution. On gas masks I was going to point something else out here that showed up with KeepShooting.com. Just as an example guys of where you're going to see prices going with the gas masks and really they've been there anyway. A4 gas mask from Sweden is now available. This is the one that presently Sweden, their military is using this right now. It's their answer to the M40 US gas mask and in fact is very similar in design if not a direct knockoff. It's $100 per mask but it's a brand new present issue mask. Also known, in fact they're calling it also the F2, it's the Forschetta A4. was developed as the civilian version of the Swedish military NBC mask F2. So there's no difference between the two masks. They're the same. One has the Milispec designation, the other one has their Civil Defense designation, and they have a big Civil Defense program in Sweden, by the way. Always. Yeah, something to think about there. It's a beautiful mask. Again, it's the present philosophy of how things should be made. It has the amidextrous filter option. You can put a filter on the left or you can switch it over to the right. It's on the side, the same as the M9. Large eyepiece, so it creates the illusion that you have a solid piece of glass in front of you. By making the eyepieces larger, it helps to reduce the fear of those who are claustrophobic. That's the only reason they're worried about the eyepieces being bigger. It does help to be able to see more, but remember, government will spend less whenever they can. So rather than a solid glass face piece, the two larger eyepieces accommodate the field of vision and create the illusion that you're not boxed in as much. And that is the number one reason for doing it. A lot of people just can't handle wearing a gas mask. So that's why they do it, especially for the civilian sector more so than anything. It's funny because the Russians went the other way. You get little peephole lenses on most of the Civil Defense models and on the military, of course, they went with a round out larger eyepiece but still, hey, you know, live with it. If you want to breathe, wear the mask. If you don't want to breathe, get out of my way. Oh well, not my problem. It's good equipment, but it's just an example. Those are $100 a piece. That's the latest variant on the theme. We can go anywhere in between. You can even spend more right now. Remember, Maine Military has masks. You can spend up to $300 and some dollars for a full face. State of the art, cyber tech, super duper mask from the future. Congratulations. It's a matter of personal flavor change, guys. Anyway, go ahead. Would somebody help to put it on? Would somebody help to put it on? Yeah, does that $300 mask come with a little guy to help put it on? It should have a little Chinese coolie specialized in nuclear biological. Yeah, it should be that way. It's the guy. You add water, he shows up and he puts the mask on for you. And he dusts it off too. How many extra filters are you supposed to carry with you Mark? How many extra filters? Well there's a couple ways to do that. I would carry two. I carry two but I also carry a spare mask in my combat pack, in my house pack. And I carry... well there's two models that I've got ready to go right away. One is the M65. You guys don't see as many of these. The M65, the Schrader type. The German masks, I used to get those for literally nothing, you know, five, six dollars a piece. And those were a present German military mask. They're very comfortable. And I usually have those set up with, obviously all my masks are ready to go that are within reach. But in the backpack I carry two more filters. Both of the ones I've got in there right now are German. It's because that's what was available. And those are sealed and plugged. They're, you know, in other words, they're still, you know, not compromised. But then I also carry another, like I said, basically this A5 mask, the possum mask in the backpack with a filter on it ready to go. The reason for that is not so much even myself, but because policy has always been, you're usually, if you're the team leader or whatever, you're keeping an eye on everybody. And I carry a spare mask. If I need it, I got it. But the idea is if we run into somebody who doesn't have one and everybody's carrying a spare in the team, we have the ability to actually mask up and move a number of people. But it's also a safety precaution. I mean stuff gets shot. Things get broken and the other problem is because you're bouncing around on the field, the gas mask, if your gas mask is where it's supposed to be either in the underarm carry or if you carry it on the leg it doesn't make any difference, you may not be paying attention because you're dodging, bulleting, or shucking and jiving and you reach for your mask and it's not there. That's embarrassing. I learned that a long time ago. One of my favorites, we train with chemical constantly. There was this one guy named Chainsaw, that was his nickname, it was McCulloch, so we called him Chainsaw. The complete deployment of CSCN on a wide scale, big front, about 500 feet, big wall coming at us. Everybody stops and Chainsaw, I was watching him, he was right to my front. and he does everything perfectly for a change. One of the few times he did everything exactly the way he's supposed to. Put the rifle between his legs, take his helmet off his head, put it on the rifle. He reaches for the gas mask and looks around and goes, my gas mask is... Well, about that time the gas hit, he was in the front. My gas mask is gone. It was somewhere behind us a couple hundred yards. I don't know where he dropped it, you know. So here he is running from the fog, trying to get away from the fog. What's interesting is the team sergeant to the side took his mask, shoved it in his gut, and then ran to the left of the fog bank to the side where the air was carrying the agent. So he ran out of it and got off to the peripheral to the side of it. We well, McCullough put his mask on and then proceeded. You wouldn't normally do that. When it comes to everything you're doing in the field from first aid to chemical or whatever, you're supposed to be taking care of yourself. But if I were to say, if we were going into the field into combat, the mask would not be carried on the inside of the bag where it is now. If I were prepping, one of the things you do, it's kind of like when you're a paratrooper, if I was going into the field, that spare gas mask would then be fitted into the outside pocket right. The regular gas mask is on the outboard of the left leg. That's where you carry your mask. But over your shoulder and to the right, everybody knows in our unit that over the shoulder and to the right on the Atlas pack, or I've got a Type 90 pack, still has the same basic pouches the way they're set up, that on the outside right, on the top of the biggest pocket, there is going to be that gas mask sitting there. So if they were to come across you and you haven't donned your mask and they can't find the mask that's supposed to be there, it could be blown off, could have holes in it or whatever, everybody knows. Or let's say we're in the buddy system, we come across somebody who's, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, well, they're in trouble. The guy behind me comes up, pulls a spare mask out of the standard station, and we apply it to the casualty or the individual, then push them to the rear. See how that works? Everybody knows where all the equipment is because there's a standard operating procedure for it. Now the spare filters don't have to be immediately available. And the reason for that, excuse me, man, that was something that didn't want to sneeze on me right away. The basic rule here, guys, is remember the filters you have are AA filters, they're already up, they're already serviceable. You are going to have to do a change out eventually, but you should not be in agent that long or that's heavy of saturation. If it is, again, then you're going to do maintenance, you're going to check the filter, inspect it, you may decontaminate or clean it off. Again, if it's just CSCN or for instance, capsium oil. If it's capsium agent, you're going to want to wash the mask off. Why? Well, the mask did its job and kept it from getting on your face, which means it's not in your nose, it's not in your lips, and it's not in your eyes. But remember, if you were hit with a spray agent or with a material that dispersed it and it bonds to the face of the mask, now the outside of the mask has got some of the contaminant on it. And we don't want to be rubbing our hands and that. I take the mask off. I'm all sweaty. And then I decide that, oh man, I want to rub my face because my face is all sweaty. Oh man, I should have known better. It's like cooking with onions. You ever done that? You're so careful, you chop the onions up, you make your spaghetti sauce, you throw the onions in there, then you just kind of put everything off to the side and then you go, oh, oh, I got some in my eye. And you put your fingers into your eye and you just cross contaminate. And your eye knows that you're working with onions, doesn't it? Oh, yes. So just think the same way, only it's, you know, capsium oil is again, you know, the All it is is habanero juice or one of the variations in whatever pepper they're deciding to use and they bring it down, they render it down into the deliverable form and concentrate it. That's the most common anti-personnel agent that we're now seeing in the field beyond CS and CN. Sir, to dilute and wipe that off the mask? Yes, that's what you do. Oh no, you don't do anything special. All you're going to do is simply take a mild soap and water, or water even, just to wipe off. That's all you want to do. You're just going to wash off the mask. It's just the idea that you have to think if the agent was heavy enough, in other words, you have to judge this. If you're just passing through, it's very mild. Then you're probably not going to have any difficulty with it because the mass doesn't lock things to it. But remember that if you were at a heavy particulate, let's say that you're in the front, well let's map something out for everybody. Let's think what you saw in the Ukraine a month and a half ago. Did you see what the environment looked like? Did you notice the haze in the air? Notice that everybody was either wearing a gas mask or they had rags around their mouth and their nose. And a lot of were wearing safety goggles because they didn't have masks, so they were wearing safety goggles that wrapped around the eyes and they were doing everything they could. Well that fuzzy haze in the air wasn't just burning tires, although that can be a problem too. It was all the other stuff that was being shot down range. landing across the whole of the battlefield or the forward edge of the battle area. Now if you're up front and they decide to go with other projection systems which include spraying units guys, low-level spraying units by aircraft or again vehicles or equipment spraying and dispersing in fine atomized propellant form agent by the hundreds of gallons. It's as light as it is and it doesn't have to be high-end bio. Remember, it's designed to irritate and to incapacitate or reduce your performance level. Then the idea is that the rifleman with a band head or a pistol or a gun does the rifle, does the rest. So that's why the mask is kind of handy because you can handle, I will say this, the more you work in a A chemical environment, the more you become adapted to being able to breathe and actually work in low end like real light conditions, however, remember that one thing about any of these materials is that they are cumulative. So it's one thing to pass through an area and for a short distance, you know, decide to bite the bullet, so to speak. In fact, you can handle it. If you take control of your person, you're not panicking because of the attack. And that's what chemical agent is supposed to count on, is that you're an unthinking animal or a civilian peasant that is so stupid that you have no clue about what's going on. And if something strange happens, you respond like a dog. Or as instead, if you understand what you're facing in the environment, You can control yourself and move through it quickly if you have to without a protective device. However, going back in and out and in and out and in and out, well if you continue to apply or have stuff build up around the eyes, the face, and then you apply moisture, well as we know it's just like when you have dry cayenne pepper and you decide to apply water and touch your lips. If you've done dried peppers, we do dried peppers. They look fun. You crunch them up, you do what you're doing with them. And then you haven't done anything, but you decide to touch your lips or you touch your eye. Well, you're reminded once again that the stuff activates with moisture. Go ahead, color. You know what, the very first... Yeah, gauze, frog gauze. It was a handkerchief. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they call frog gauze. It's lost gas. Yeah, it's frog gauze. In fact, the later masks actually, remember some of them look like a frog face. Everybody kind of joked about that. In reality, that's all that that did. Step one was to improvise. In step two, they made a military version of it where they applied the filtering agent, if you want to call it that, to To the material, the gauze, those masks were very quickly replaced as technology was developed. They went to the filter system that really hasn't changed much at all. They don't think it changes what it's made out of. They made the mass were made out of everything from suede leather to polymers, early plastics as we know them now, canvas with polymer or hemp plastic. The lenses were glass but some of the first clear plastics were used. Also, what was the other one? Not just plastics, but natural stone. Oh, come on, I'm trying to do it off. I don't think about it, I can rattle it off. Anyway, naturally occurring, the lenses were made from a number of different materials. And again, the basket strap system, anything from a buckler type to the elasticized, which came out later. The mother of necessity and developed because of the killing machine process coming up with better killing machines. So you had to have better defense. I'm curious. Only because everybody had experienced the argument, well the only thing would be whether or not they considered because the agents are not going to be deployed, some of those being quite caustic, pretty much they would be able to protect as well. The argument about using the non-combustible or the chemical resistant, harsh chemical resistant is because of the different ordinance delivery philosophies by the different countries. Each one had their own way of delivery and also with the appliqué, in other words, the vector that was going to deliver the agent. Moisture is the most common, that's what we've been talking about, but typically what you do is you want something that's going to stick Not only do you want it to stick, but ideally you see if you're using a chemical generator, a chemical transfer with the explosion, then what you do is you're liquefying an agent or material that then when it travels through the air bursts onto the objective target, human beings, and then sticks. Now, ideally if you want an agent to be persistent, what they would do is it would become molten in the expansion, the explosion phase or the dispersion phase, the burner phase, and then as it cools, it would lock on. So, in reality, and of course this was with what were higher agent chemicals that are designed to blister and designed to create surface and internal injury depending on it. Why not you inhale. If you inhale it, obviously it's going to burn the lungs, etc. All the evil things that go on internally. Then there were, yeah, the biggest thing there is layering. And that would help you to identify. The only thing, there's only so much you can do to protect yourself. Otherwise, you move away from it. Remember, though, that the higher caustic type or the higher applique types were typically not wide in terms of their dispersion. In other words, to deliver a system like that, it would cover an area of, you know, because of the way the burst of the, and the size of the shell, if it was delivered by artillery, if it was delivered by rocket, its burst radius would only be about maybe 100 to 150 feet. Remember, a plane can only carry so much and artillery can only launch so much. If you were in a saturation area, if they had started to really use chemical, in the early phase it would have been selective to create panic. In the later phase it would be like World War I where you would see mass saturation and the whole field would be covered. Oh yes, it's good fertilizer. It's great for the ground, it's great for the plants, it's bad for the people. It lays low, it crevices low spots, it always just lays dormant. Every once in a while what happens is people find the delivery systems and they go boom. Here's the basic rule about ordinance, you don't know and everybody needs to remember this. This is like the 40 millimeter grenade guys. Okay, unlike the movies, remember the, an example of this, you watch the movie Terminator 2, remember he comes up to pull in, he's got the 40 millimeter grenade launcher, and the evil terminator, the liquid polymetalloid terminator, he fires at about what, 25 feet? About 40 feet, maybe. Well, the problem guys is that the 40 millimeter grenade is activated by spin. And until it reaches so many RPMs, so many cycles, if it impacted, all it's going to be is a big 40 millimeter bullet. However, when you're the guy working on somebody, let's say that I'm marking, I got a 40 millimeter slug stuck in me here that's a grenade, nobody wants to move you because you don't know if when it was spinning and you stopped it, it was only one-inth of a turn away from activating. You see? The same is true with these big artillery and the especially chemical ordnance and HE shells. It's sitting there waiting throughout time for that last little turn. Actually what I was talking about was not a shell. Well yeah, it's saturated and permeated in the environment. Remember I call it the dark side of the moon environment? Yes, that's exactly the case. The agent itself is held in semi-liquid form and when it bonds to the environment it settles and then what happens is a vectoring agent is a little bit of moisture and a little bit of summer heat. You see how that works? And what it does is it helps to raise it and atomize it again. All chemical agents that are, you know, particle delivery can be removed. If they're moved around, they'll reactivate. Well, the pattern is not bad. In fact, the advantage, the reason they went with the whole system is because In fact, we can still get those. I have several thousand of those, but they're not old. They're made for the Russian systems. Wow! What I was getting at, he was telling me. Yes. Well, the other thing about the agents themselves, and this is one thing that I can't emphasize enough. The idea is to disrupt. In the early phases, if World War II they'd start to use ordnance. It would have been to panic and disrupt. The logic is that people would not be ready for it. But whoever started using it, both sides would regret it because it very quickly would go from being startled to being pissed. That's the best way to describe it because it would panic the first people who were hit by it because most everybody was under the illusion that there was some kind of gentleman's agreement, which there was. However, one of the things to remember, there were at least three significant accidents. One of them was British chemical ordinance. One of them was a forward deployed chemical battery. Remember that the four point deuce mortar, if your dad was in chemical at all, in chemical ordnance, or if he was with a chemical ordnance unit, and everybody usually at least passed him by, the four point deuce mortar was made as a way to get around the treaties to have an on-battalion delivery system for chemical ordnance. And for that reason, the four-point deuce mortar was the most accurate mortar for many years in our inventory because it was designed to pinpoint and to deliver on-site a chemical or biological ordnance attack. Now, the one thing is that they also made high explosive rounds for the four-point deuce, so the good thing is that the battalion commander, who usually is stripped of everything else, actually had at his disposal four point deuce mortars for unit support and that was a big plus. However, the only reason those four point deuce mortars were there was to conceal the fact because they did have HE rounds. They could say that they were a conventional mortar. The four point deuce's first mission is for chemical delivery. It's a chemical mortar battery weapon. But that's one of those things that It was a plus and minus thing. The battalion commander otherwise would always have to look to higher command for any kind of support. The cool thing about the 4 point deuce being so accurate is that it made for a very lively way to take whatever little you had and make it work to the best of your ability. The 4 point deuce is still out there. The newer mortars are comparably accurate now, but it still can hold its own in a modern battlefield. Go ahead. Mine has got the right... Wait a minute, which side? Well, it's got what? Go ahead and repeat that again. And it goes right on the end of it. Two eye holes. Right, but that can be... Okay, well, you see now there's Czech, East German, West German. It's gray. Is it gray colored? It's blackish gray looking color. Blackish gray. Well, that could be... Well, yes, it still could be... It's probably Warsaw Pact. I have to see it. Actually, your best bet is to go into the surplus companies on the Internet. Although you can also do a Google search and you just go gas mass and look and compare because basically what you describe are almost every one of the standard mass that's out there. The only thing is whether or not it has what we call a voice meter. Again, the variances are the size of the filter. It's either going to be a 60 or a 40 millimeter filter for almost all the modern ones unless it