April 25, 2014
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1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke discussed logistics and resource coordination for the Bundy Ranch standoff in Nevada, emphasizing the need for organized supply chains, medical support, and personnel management. He covered ammunition and preparedness supply availability, provided detailed guidance on food storage calculations using spreadsheets, and fielded caller questions about hunting regulations, firearms trading, and ammunition sourcing. The show included updates from field operatives regarding Oath Keepers presence and security protocols at the ranch.
- bundy ranch
- nevada standoff
- logistics
- oath keepers
- preparedness
- ammunition supply
- medical support
- food storage
- militia
- federal government
- second amendment
- michigan dnr
- venison
- ruger m77
- 204 ruger
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You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors, so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free and good? Evening, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Evening Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Kernke. And butter knife. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio dot com, for more on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're in the homework network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 3rd and 5th pit. and our friends in the recall state of Colorado waving to the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson. The guys are headed out there to the Bundy Ranch. I understand there'll be some good men and women out there participating from many different states and to get together this weekend. Keep up the good work there guys. Watch your perimeter. Pay attention to your six. Turning back to the east, we sweep across the plains over the Mississippi line to the Smokies where the restaurant and cruise grammar teams, OK teams, and Ma Bell Grammar Consortium bring us the Golden Spike. It went from gray and rainy this morning. to completely clear and I guarantee we're gonna see some cold tonight, not real cold, but it's gonna get cooler guys because of the clouds, all this pair is gonna be bright and shiny. What's it like in your neck of the woods? What's our jump off the wall? And what's the date today, sir? It is 25 April 2014. It is Friday evening and it is the last hour of the day and the week for the intelligence report. That makes this quartermaster's corner. We are broadcasting to you from the seventh floor of the LTR broadcast tower in improved audio quality courtesy of support from our listeners. This is our usual Friday evening program. I have less stuff this week than I normally do. You all have been diverted by the Bundy thing. I have been diverted by other things. We're all trying to figure out how to avoid a second Waco or Grey or some such. The bad guys, of course, are busy thinking about how to create another Waco or Grey or some such. So, we are all busy on our relative sides trying to figure stuff out. As always, the bad guys have certain tactical advantages. They have an infinite amount of hour money to piddle away in their evil schemes. The attacker has an advantage in being able to choose the timing of things. They can loaf around, pick their nose for a month or three, and then come rushing back. some particular day and it's very expensive of resources for us to have a lot of people in the field there hanging around trying to keep an eye on things. I'm sure they are quite aware of that available advantage. That's a bandit's advantage, I would say. The bandit can hang around in the saloon and goof off and do all of this stuff and then go re-tax the train at a particular time and the conductors and You know, shotgun riders on the train have to be there all the time. So, you know, this is why we solve this problem on a societal basis by going after the bad actors and hunting them down instead of sitting around waiting for them to decide to do their thing. Sadly, we are not yet in the phase of identifying and hunting down the bad actors. But at some point simple economic and resource constraints will require that option become active. Oh well, more sits creak or war I guess for the time being. So comments or questions do you have on that? We're going to have to stay again in the fight to do it. We've got to make sure we keep our people prepared. resupplied, it's not the only front. Number one is we have to be ready virtually. All 48 states are at risk, so we have to allocate resources by percentage. That's what we've been asking people to do. So we need, again, everybody to chip in a little, and it makes a hell of a big difference in the long run, guys. Just keep that in mind. That's the process. We've got Texas. People are acknowledging the Texas situation that is going on. It's something that everybody started telling everybody about. Finally, people are turning their eyes there. In addition, we have the East Coast with the New York-Connecticut- Rhode Island battle going on. That's not going to change. That's not going away. We have to be diversified. We have to be fast on our feet. and we need to be able to respond effectively, not react, respond. So logistics is the key. We've said this many times. Remember we've been pointing out the 510 program for how long? Now, the 510 program, what is it? The ability to outfit from head to toe, top to bottom, if at all possible. 5 or 10 individuals. That's either a 5 man fireteam or a 10 man squad. Now why? Those are the basic building blocks for any army. Any platoon, company, battalion, whatever. 5 men outfitted top to bottom with everything from clean underpants to new clothing or used clothing that's in good shape. Socks. toothbrushes, everything top to bottom to recondition the person, to recycle the person, to refresh them, or to outfit them for the first time. Now you decide the program as far as what all you can afford. This includes the idea that you would have five weapons available. A lot of people have looked at and have purchased five AKs when they were a lot cheaper. Example, Back when you bought the a-sagas for under $200 a piece, you could buy five sagas for the price of one AK right now. If you bought a middle end AK for about $1,000, you're buying one of the more progressive, you know, the newer AKs or all the bells and whistles, you could have bought five sagas, $185 to $195 a piece and some 62 by 39 or 223. Well, people did that. Some of them bought them when they were under $200 and with the shotguns. The people did that. That's good enough. In fact, those are very fine weapons. They may have bought five nagot rifles, five pump shotguns, whatever they've got. They've got the ability to outfit top to bottom and to a degree combat equip the individuals top to bottom. That's part of a deep tactical, logistic deployment across the country. And the more we do and the more we build the better off we'll be. You want to get this thing over with faster or reduce the time. We need a deep, logistic train in place and it needs to be diversified. It's not all in one place and we have it spread all over creation. You can't stop us from being able to fight and to be able to fight effectively. But we're going to have to think ahead. Now the other thing is, again, we've talked about the basics for this site. The Bundy Ranch is unknown. It's not like we're going to conceal the Bundy Ranch and make it disappear. Sorry guys. Mr. Bundy plans on continuing to work on his cattle. which means this is a working site. Look at it as literally cowboys and Indians, the savages, whatever you want to. The barbarians are out wanting to ransack the cows and kill the farmsteaders. Meanwhile, the Defense Force has got to be able to secure the site and allow for regular operation to take place. Well, a cycle of control but also a logistic train needs to be going in because of the garrison that's securing the ranch. We need food to be going in on a regular basis. We need a better effect by... And I don't have an update yet because they're on the ground. We have guys there right now. They should be there doing what I asked about the medical tent. So that should be set up. The people... I told them grab anybody that's standing around with their thumb up their arse that's talking all about how, oh he can't fight. Fantastic. You can help to stop people from bleeding then. Oh, oh, oh yeah. Congratulations, you're a corpsman. Okay, that's how it works guys. We'd follow and get the hell out of the way. You can glue yourself to the back of a pair of binoculars. You can talk into a radio every three to five minutes. You can tell a guy back at base what your status is and what you've seen or not. You can haul things back and forth. You know, dig berms. There's a thousand things you can do that don't involve lining up a bore on a living target. And the other personal occupy, it's what engineers do, guys. Combat engineers, that is their job, basically what they do. They built the positions of people fighting. It used to be Armstrong did it and everybody pitched in because, like I've said many times, did you see a D-12 bulldozer behind George Washington when he posed for any of those combat scenes in the field with the surrender or any of the dynamics that were done by the painters? All those big fortifications and things that you saw done were done with Armstrong. Today, the Bundy Ranch has all the tools that it needs. The biggest thing is, again, as we remind everybody, fuel costs money too. Now, apparently he has the resources to take care of that element. So we're not worried about the industrial component of Mr. Bundy's operations except where water support was damaged, no lines, tanks need to be repaired. That's stuff where we need manpower. And again, you're not shooting anybody, you're going to help keep the cows alive. So you can't tell me you can't justify pitching in on that. OK, so there's another area where you can help out. Now, logistics. The very thing we've talked about, this is Quartermaster Friday, bullets and beans, basketballs to Bibles. They literally do need everything in there. And I would go so far as to say, Somebody needs to be working on Courtney and I know the girls may have already been doing this but we need somebody to be, for instance, not public relations but we need a morale officer and we need on-site library in place. This is another thing you can do. Donate discs, donate equipment. We can get machinery in there so that they're on-site. We don't want people be bopping in and out and traveling all over the place if you're operating with a secure mind. The idea is that a lot of what you need to be on site, prepped and left in place, and it's designed to be user friendly for the garrison. But you have to get into a routine. We also have to beware because the more bodies you have on a site, in any condition, not just the desert, but anywhere, remember, we've already been talking about human waste issues. That's something that needs to be dealt with. Again, I mentioned piston tubes. That's something that we should have mentioned early on. It's something that should have been in place. It would have alleviated pressure on the porta-potties and all the other stuff anyway. Not that they still wouldn't end up with a problem because so many people in one place, there's only so much volume of space available, things go in, they're going to come out. But we also have to look at personal hygiene issues. So soap. are detergent stuff like that you can use every day another thing we still have not addressed but everybody put out as an idea they've already said that they have laundry issues ideally we don't want them leaving the site even for laundry support guys everything you do away from the site it's good for business relations But it's travel time, it's fuel time, etc. where if we can get our act together, if anybody could trailer in, ideally with something that would be a grade B trailer, it's a nice trailer, but just pay. Give it a coat of house paint. Give it a coat of paint. Put two washers and two dryers inside. We'll figure out how to hook everything up when it gets to the other end, but get it there. The big thing is we need the tools there. They don't have to be new. You're dealing with field clothing and equipment that's going to get dirty, it's going to get grungy. We're not doing niceties here, we're not doing underpants and t-shirts, etc. But the idea is that it's for coursework, it's volume work. They don't have to be fancy. It would be nice if it's all the same machinery. In other words, two washers the same, two dryers the same. Why? Well, parts. If we break one down and we can't go back and replace it. At least we can keep one going by cannibalizing the other. Somebody that wants to contribute and is all peace, love, dope and all that sort of stuff can run a pickup truck back and forth and run a round trip into town in the coin laundromat once a week or twice a week or what not. There you go. Well, that's what I was talking about with the idea of that's a hearts and minds thing because at least if the person is friendly and owns a business, then it's okay to do business with him. If the person is a bonehead and is like in reality making pissy comments in his backstabber, yeah, we don't give him any business if we can help it. But the other thing too is to be prepared for the point where sustainability on site, I guarantee, and this is something we need to remember too that hasn't been talked about a lot, Number one, the Bundy's have been in this fight for a long time. They're like any other person out there. Everybody's strapped, even though, well, we got lots of cows. Look, they got a big chunk of property. It's barren wasteland. It's a nice barren wasteland because it's got more water guys. But he's also been in this thing for a long time. And like everybody else, there's attrition. There's wear and tear. People get tired. And it's cost resources. The one thing we need to remember is Mr. Bundy has already just taken a hit with the damage done to his livestock. an economic hit. That economic hit is not a wall. This isn't going to destroy his business, but it is a bump that is going to change the dynamics of what he has in the way of resources when he goes to market. See what's just happened here? See, there's a bunch of events now that are going to come up. So he has only a specific amount of resource. We need to change that dynamic. The bad guys are counting on that to create hardship for him. Part of the psychological warfare and the economic warfare process with regard to defense is where they try to do this. We need to turn around and just stuff that right up there our sideways. To do that, if we take pressure off in these other areas, then Mr. Bundy does not spend resources that are part of his inventory that keeps his business going. that keeps him functional. We need to change that dynamic. That's part of what we regard to the strategic overview of what's going on. We have the manpower and the wherewithal to do this. I suspect that the intention of this whole operation, aside from the very convenient timing that it draws a certain amount of attention away from Bobo putting his squishy parts into Ukraine and having them injured. I think the goal was simply to snatch all of his cattle, bankrupt him and grab the land. The idea was to destroy him economically, as is they've taken or destroyed a third of them, but they haven't got all of them yet. So they have failed their primary effort so far. But they've already done some damage. Exactly. So we need to change the formula. The other thing here too is First of all, we should be able to set up a laundry and support system. We should be able to set up a quarter master mechanism on the ground there. There's no reason not to. We should have a logistic support train in place from all over the country already in motion. In fact, as I said, we've had three to four weeks of open doors where the place should already be stacked, racked, cocked, locked, and ready to rock and roll. So now we're, you know, to a degree, ketchup is being played and there's no excuse for that. That is, that's a major failure on our part in that respect. The other issues here again, we haven't talked about munitions or anything like that. The individual units are going to have to deal with that because they know what they need. But the perishables are an issue and something that can be easily supported in a number of ways. I know in the chat room the guys might be posting it again. There is a shopping list and there is also a Walmart with a store number where you can buy stuff, pay for it, and they can go pick it up and they have a contact point. Now that was already established. I don't know who the person is. Somebody needs to validate or verify that person for the benefit of everybody just to be safe because we've had this happen in the past where somebody has set stuff up but they had nothing to do with anything and they diverted money, resources, and time. to personal benefit, personal profit guys. It happened. It's happened even with any one of these crises where people set up fake operations. We've got to make sure we verify who we're talking about and of course confirm from the center, you know, the Bundy's do. They know the person, have they been in contact with individuals, etc., etc. We do need a contact slash a dump point outside the Bundy Ranch and outside the conflict area but within driving distance. and medium or short driving distance would be best. But the idea behind this is that we have the ability to still move things in during an intermediate phase and then convoy them in while we can still access the site physically. Eventually even that would not be possible were it to escalate. So that's why during this freebie period you're piling up your resources. Again, if it's stuff that's perishable, we leave it with the boundaries. I don't care if they get extra toothbrushes, I don't care if they get extra toilet paper, and they can keep anything that we send. I don't plan on any of it coming back my way and I don't want it carried away. Seriously, there's everything I've sent so far. I don't expect to see again, maybe in a picture on one of the YouTube videos where our guys are working hard and I see, wow, that's some of the tools I sent. That's cool. That's some of the gear I sent. That's cool. Now, the stuff that we've already sent out in waves, or you know, like you quietly in waves, that is there. It's going to be, it should be already being, you know, issued out. I also made a point of saying, it's issued out. It's not being carried back home by somebody. It's issued out when that person leaves, or maybe another person who needs the exact same items that are fairly specialized. Well, that goes back into the inventory. Somebody itemizes it and makes sure that it gets back out to the next person. But that also requires an organization or a structure with regard to confirming standard operating procedure, what material do the individuals need, what is it they have when they've arrived, what is it we need to supplement them with, and are they now outfitted to the standard established by the mutual command, mutual group. Something we talked about with regard to war counsel. Whenever you read a history of the American War for Independence, you might notice that even with Washington, well he was the general of the Continental Army. He was in command of it all. Yes, and he still had to have war counsels with virtually every action in which he got cooperation from all of the different commands and all the different fighting forces. Let's not forget that Maryland militia, Massachusetts militia, Pennsylvanian militia, virtually every colony had militia units around the states in some cases that were volunteered to the Continental Army but were not part of the Continental's. And for this reason, there was still a need to have some form of political savvy when it came to convincing people that an action should proceed through, especially since there had been other issues that had developed with actions that had failed. So that's another reason that again, this is not anything new. Read history, but know what you're reading. So the War Council, the idea of a cooperative command is not far-fetched. In fact, in the early stages, especially since we are not in an open combat, we're in a dagger war situation, obviously they've killed critters, we don't know how many people have been killed over the years, but we know it's been back and forth tit for tat. But probably the best example with the Bundy case is this was classic scorched earth clandestine warfare operations. The animals they killed they tried to put underground. Their logic was nobody was going to get to see them anyway because if the occupiers had their way, everybody would have been pushed off the real estate and kept off the real estate. If it had been business as usual, so the world didn't work the way they expected. Everybody got to see the dirty deeds, aired back into the light of day and brought back to the living world. Of course, they ain't bringing those cows back. Anyway, a couple of things here real quick. I want to remind everybody, again, if you're going there, and I think they're printing the article right now, BK, in the chat rooms, going up on the page where we're speaking. Yeah, there's a laundry list of material. I've seen this list before. It dismays me a little bit. It seems to me that anybody that shows up ought to have a fair number of these things. I think back to our days as Boy Scouts. Sometimes we would camp in remote locations that didn't have water faucet or something along those lines. The scout leaders would bring in material as necessary. They'd bring in gallons of water. That would be it because we were expected to bring the stuff that we needed with us on the initial arrival. Basically, what we consumed was food and water along the way. Of course, we were in somewhat denser areas where you could gather fuel and so on. I seem to miss the whole notion of arriving with your ness, uh, necessaries and not necessarily living at suburban comfort levels while you are in the field. So, um, this is a little bit disturbing to me seeing this, this, you know, list of stuff. Part of this gives a point of contact and I believe that this was the idea that purchasing of the perishables could be done at Walmart, there's actually a store ID number etc. for anybody around the country. That's an option. I don't know who the Jessica Garni is, anybody else can bring that up or even bring it up in the chat room. But the idea here is that the perishables are the things you'd be purchasing there. I don't think I'd be buying a laptop and we're not looking at generators from Wall-E World. Satellite communications equipment from Wally World would not be an option either, but there are a lot of things here that are available as far as the perishables. You know, aloe vera, sunscreen, replacement toilet paper, by the case, but I still would recommend again, this is something where the locals can be acquired. It can be drafted to go to supply points because you've got Las Vegas, I guarantee there's a hotel supply house somewhere, several of them probably. With that being the case, you can do a better job of buying in quantity what is a, again, there are different grades of toilet paper. Well, I'm going to tell you right now, Chinese typing grade toilet paper, there's more of it on the roll. It's cheaper and typically is very cheap by comparison to what you buy in the way of Charmin. A roll of toilet paper average is about 50 cents in the grocery store. People are spending $3.50 a gallon or more for fuel to travel out there. People are carrying 500 to $1,000 rifles. You can have a backpack, you can have a couple of rolls of toilet paper, you can have your canteen, you ought to have your sunscreen. Personal equipment should not be populating this list to this extent. There's the issue of resupply. But for goodness sake, people ought to show up with a lot of this stuff already in their pack. I agree, but the point is this is for Garrison. This is the long, like I said before, this should be on a pallet. This is not something that people draw from. This is on a pallet for once the doors are closed. That's my point. There are a lot of items that you're simply not going to get and are going to progressively run out. It's not so much comfort, it's cleanliness. Certainly it's like feminine devices. Another thing I recommended before, Kotex etc. need to be purchased. There's a whole bunch of personal items, things like that, that are just consumables that without them the world goes back a few hundred years. So we really, really want to avoid that. Let's acknowledge one of the items that does not have to be bought at retail. The first item on this list is Gatorade. Here's the basic recipe that a thousand other people have distributed. We'll just repeat it for reference here. A quarter teaspoon of salt. 1,250 tablespoons of saltless salt, that's potassium chloride, you can buy that in the grocery store also. 1,250 teaspoons of baking soda and 2.5 teaspoons of sugar and that's for 4 cups of water. So that's for 4. So, this stuff does not have to be expensive. Even bought at grocery store retail prices, a box of baking soda can't assault the can't assault substitute and a bag of sugar does not compare to the cost of equivalent number of bottles of pre-made Gatorade. So, let's get down to basics here. You really want to be fancy, you buy a few packets of Kool-Aid or a Kool-Aid one to flavor it. But, you know, it's a very good idea to give it something that looks like color. Exactly. You know, color in a little bit of flavor and so on. Maybe throw in a little extra sugar for flavoring if you want. Avoid the aspartame, please. We don't really need to be frying our brains. Thank you very much. The sun will do that well enough anyway. So, you know, there's just that first item. You know, everybody ought to have something in the way of sleeping bags. You drive across country, you show up at a place like that, what do you expect to be put up at a hotel or something? Have a sleeping bag for goodness sake and an air mattress. The ground isn't so hard. I have some issues with some of these things. They kind of imply a lack of common sense and that disturbs me some. We're going to have to get our act together better than we have so far. Well, the other thing too, as I pointed out, we've got pretty much everything we need on site for the medical tent. The only other thing was maybe a couple more cots for casualties. As far as kidding the thing out, we don't have a problem there. They're going to give us a shopping list of what's left that's needed. Pretty much like I told them, scavenge off the site, make it up from what you've got there. He's got carpentry tools. So the basic outfitting of the thing as far as to have what you need to be able to treat people is there. What we need are the perishables to stock up the medical system. That's another thing, I've already sent some material. I've sent, again, compresses, 4x4s, 2x2s, stuff that we've had bulk of, rolls of gauze. Again, as soon as we know what the difference is, what's still needed because there are people that did already donate stuff like this, nobody was making any great effort to itemize and to engineer it into a system. The other consideration I've been doing is pestering a lot of these people we have that are in these public venues that are medical people that are talking about supporting the Mondays. Well, they're nurses and they're EMTs. Some of them not really all that far from the Bundy's. So those people could step in and even though they don't stay, if they could show up and help to organize, cooperate, work together with the other people, again it's like I said, count coo, walk in with a stick. Congratulations, are you doing much of anything? No, I'm watching the world go by. Oh, congratulations, you're a corpsman. tap them with a stick. And by the way we need 24 hour coverage so there's going to be 8 hour shifts and everybody takes their turn accordingly and that's why you need more bodies on hand so that nobody's exhausted, tired, you know, red-eyed, and, oh, go get any rest. Well, here's how it works. And by the way with management on that, find out who your night owls are. A lot of people that show up there, people have worked second and third shift. Well, don't put them on a daylight shift. Come on guys, think it through. Personnel material management is what we're talking about here. So we'll get the job done. The big thing is the perishables need to be on site. My attitude is it's also symbolic. And again, the number 10 cans of food, 25 pound bags of rice and beans, the family will be able to feed when we're gone. If we ever decide that it's time to leave or whatever, then it stays there. It's part of the price of operation. I don't have any problem with that. The bad guys, like I said, have massive amounts of material. They waste our money left and right. They squandered, they say, $3 million to do what they were doing. Cattle rustlers don't spend $3 million to go rustle cattle, guys. Do you think they do that? BK? I'm sorry to break in like that. Our guy got down there and he called in. I wanted to get it up before the hour was gone. He said he got down there and he said real tight security. He said, you can't take no pictures when you get down there around where everybody is at. He said, oath keepers are there on scene. The head guy, what's his name? Stuart or something like that. He is there and he is supposed to talk to our guy tomorrow like an interview. He said, no going on the Bundy Ranch. That's the first rule. That doesn't mean you're going to do a snide or tomorrow while you guys are there. It's the idea that when they start lining up along the road they've been queued by the Fed because they're nothing but Fed whores anyway. We've seen this for decades. Even big organizations like CNN and so on aren't going to want to park somebody there for three months waiting for things to happen. They're going to want a queue as to when to be there. How do we deliver supplies? I already said. Well, there's the other thing. Henry, are we talking about the idea that now what? We can't get into the... Well, let's back up a second. Now, this is something I got into yesterday. We were told that all the Oath Keepers laughed and that they were leaving because of this thing with the New York Times article. Now we're told that Rhodes is there after all. So, what happened in the in-between? Did they all of a sudden do it about face to face because they realized that they looked stupid or did that not happen and somebody was lying through their teeth? What? He said that he went up to their camp and he said that it was all there and they were there and that the roads, whatever it is, said he would talk to him tomorrow. He went out to the earth keepers camp, that's not the same as the ranch per se, right? I don't think so. I don't think their camp is on the ranch. I don't know. I can't say that. I should have asked that. He said he could not get on the ranch. A lot of people have made comments over the last four days. So somebody might have actually stepped in. Remember there was a discussion that there was going to be a change in operation and procedure. So that may have been kicked into play and OPSEC is an issue and they're doing things the way we would expect. That's what I would think. So I think they don't know him. I'm not going to say go away, we've got rules. I don't think that's going to happen. No, no. I wouldn't think so. Anyways, that's what I had to tell you and we hear more and we'll let you know. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. You bet. Again, for everybody to head up there, that's a sitrep from our people that are on the ground from the Trenches Road Report, so we should get more information progressively as the weekend goes by. Remember that we'll get follow-up on Monday. The big thing about getting material in is we just need to get it to the site. I don't have a problem with if somebody, all of a sudden, has got so anal retentive that we have to drop it off on pallets at a designated area. If that's what they're going to do, that's what they're going to do. We just need to get it into the area. into the area now. What Henry is saying is that they're securing the site from the perimeter themselves, it's not from the feds blocking it. So that's one of those things that happens. Provided it's not, please, I hope not oath keepers are the ones that are doing this. Well, there's always a possibility that the so-called guardians there are going to protect the ranch from all and every possible threat, including those that are not threats, those that are friendly, until such time as the veibs show up and then they turn tail and run, in which case they will have done exactly the opposite of everything they're supposed to be doing there. So that's a possibility as well. We have maybe 15 minutes left. Let's touch some of the usual stuff. Okay, I have made the rounds as I normally do. The situation on primers is the same as it was last week. Everybody has some. Nobody has an entire product line. Nobody has an entire range. Grafs have some primers. They have no powder. Powder Valley Ink has some primers. They do not have any powder. So on and so forth down the list. Winters is a pain to examine because you have to go to the entire site and read all of the out of stocks to see whether there's anything there. I wish they would improve their site a little bit. So on and so forth. So that is pretty much a no-changer. It seems to be basically no medium powder out there to speak of. Powder Valley Inc. had some LT32 that appears to be gone. in a week. That seems to be the pattern that we've seen recently. Anything they have one week they will not have the next week. People will descend upon them like a cloud of locusts and boom, it's gone. Once again, this just seems to be a continuation of the pattern. I will once again remind people that an outfit named Cellway Armory, S-E-L-W-A-Y, armory.com, claims to have ammunition in various calibers. A huge list. You're going to have to look at every caliber you're interested in. and see what they've got. A lot of these entries, they have two boxes of this or four boxes of that. So it's not an in-depth inventory, but there is some stuff there. A deeper but narrower range, that is you're not going to get 50 different calibers, but they seem to actually have some inventory. BuyGunsAndAmmo.com is the outfit that I've been bringing up each week for a while now. They have a bunch of this SS109 Romanian production at approximately $0.35 a round, which is even better than the Walle price when Walle has it in stock. The stuff that Walle has cheaply is always 55 grain. This is the 62. I will remind people that Stoner did design a 55 grain rifle, but it was a 14 twist rifle. and people have tightened that up to 12. Well, what people are carrying are 12s, 1 in 12s, 1 in 9s, even some 1 in 7s. Those are not intrinsically designed for a 55 grain round. Those are intended for the heavier 62 grain rounds. So if you're carrying a 1 in 12, or especially a 1 in 10 or 1 in 9, you really do want the 62 grain round. This is what's available right now at buygunsandammo.com and there aren't all that many vendors that have any 223 to speak of, let alone the 62 grain variant. So that is one to exploit. as Mark has observed in previous hours. BK is going to sing his song. If you go to GunPartsCorp.com and look in the Gas Mass and Chemical Protection area, you will find that they still list the 60 millimeter filters by the case lot. 45 filters in a wooden case for $150 plus shipping. that works out to about $4 a filter and that is the cheapest filter you're going to find anywhere and we have no idea exactly when they're going to run out but when they run out we are going to be down to exactly zero deep pockets and cheap sources of filters. So if you are not all topped up and ready to go and happy with your NBC supplies you should be grabbing some of these filters assuming, of course, that you have a mask that can use them. The ready supplies of M9, otherwise known as M61s in the fin nomenclature, are not out there. There are a few here and there. The center fire has got to be empty of theirs by now. There was some thought that they were effectively empty last week. But those are available in circulation and EnumRage does have these C3 masks which also use the 60 millimeters. They have the adapter rings that let a 60 millimeter mask use a 40 millimeter filter. So if you get a C3 mask or an M9 or M61 mask and 60mm filters and you don't have enough filters, well, you get one of these adapter rings and you can use the 40mm filters, which means that you have the privilege of spending $8 to $40 per filter instead of $4 per filter, but you can also get specialty and high-end filters if that is your desire or if that's all you can find. So, access this supply while you can, it will not last forever. 45 filters at 150 plus shipping at $4 a piece is a wasting asset, meaning it is going away at some rate. We don't know what the rate is, but it is going away at some rate. And at some point, Mark and BK are going to be telling you, oh well, that's gone. you lose, don't cry to us. Now we ragd on you for years literally about this particular offer and you disregard it. Don't be one of the ones that's whining to us later on and we're scratching your heads and trying to come up with a solution for you. That solution is going to have an extra zero behind it even if we do come up with something. Gunpartscorp.com com for the 60 millimeter filters and if you do not have any 60 millimeter masks or enough of them they do have the Canadian C3 masks available. You know, one mask fully kitted out for $14. That's not a bad cost and it's not a bad mask either. Comments? No, no, keep going. Jump in. We've only got a little bit of time left. Go ahead. Okay, I will remind people that the archives are available at IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com, our archive site, kindly maintained by Spike. If, for instance, you were planning to put together a food package and roll that up to the Bundy Ranch and drop it off and come home, how would you balance the supplies that you're dropping off. Well, if you grab a copy of old BK spreadsheet available right there on IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com, you can punch in your proposed load. For instance, suppose you say, well, I can't afford a lot of fancy stuff, but I can afford some things I'll go to Sam's or Costco or whatnot and get the following stuff. I'm going to get 25 pound bags of rice and 25 pound bags of beans and so on. What do I want to do? How long will they last? What's that good for? Well, the spreadsheet will do that for you. For one thing, it will strongly hint that you really ought to maintain a 2 to 1 ratio, that is two units of rice per one pound of beans. That 2 to 1 ratio is traditional because that's something close to a reasonable protein balance. It is not, regardless what the vegans say, sufficient, but it is a good first whack at a required protein balance to keep somebody on their feet, supplement that with a little bit of spam or whatnot, and that will fill in some of the cracks. in the requirements. But you enter in, suppose we're going to put in four of these bags of rice and two of these bags of beans, you can enter that into the spreadsheet. It will say you have X many mandates of carbs, fats, and proteins. You're going to find this low on proteins and way, way low on fats. So, okay, what do we do? Alright, I can go to Aldi and I can afford 100 cans of their Spam. Okay, so we punch that into a spreadsheet and it bumps everything up. It will increase the proteins and the fats and so on, the mandates, calories and all this kind of good stuff. And you can see what you've got. You can say, well, okay, examining my pantry I've got a flat of cans of ravioli. What does that do? Well, if that's an entry in the spreadsheet or something close to it is an entry in the spreadsheet, you can enter that and say, OK, what does that do now? And you can tinker around. So you do not need to use a spreadsheet only for your own storage. You can open as many of these spreadsheets as you want. And you can open one spreadsheet whose location field says, the pickup truck that is going to the Bundy's next Tuesday. All right, and you can do calculations that way. Be creative. It doesn't know or care who you are or where you're sending things or what have you. It just does calculations and that's its job. So you can grab that at IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com. You can download it. You will need Open Office. You can get that at OpenOffice.org. That also is free. It will run on any PC, whether it is PC branded or Mac branded or running Linux, you can get the appropriate variation of OpenOffice for that and run the spreadsheet. You will need to enable macros as long as you get it from Spike's site. You know that the binaries will not have hospital macros in them and you can proceed from there. That will let you do some calculations without spending forever in a day noodling around on the web trying to figure out the nutritional values of all these products because Old BK did a lot of that homework. for you and build the logic and calculations into the spreadsheet. So, IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com, grab a copy of the spreadsheet, do your planning. If you aren't using that for your own purposes, unless you've got something else that you like better, grab one. Perhaps done blindly are a little bit better than prepped not done at all, but they're not nearly as good as knowing what you're doing. It doesn't cost you anything to know what you're doing. because that asset is available right there and freely available to anybody with an internet connection or who has a buddy that's got an internet connection. Okay, comments. Especially critical guys as we've said when your personal management we're looking at personal preparation or again logistic support moving heading outbound. You've got a complete inventory of what is there. Remember that if you're going to be pulling from your old inventory, some people were talking about doing this, that what they're doing is they're taking some of their food storage, they're shipping it out to the Bundy's with some of the guys that are going in different places, and so they're taking their older inventory. Well, this allows you to keep track of it to know what you need to replace, revitalize and refurbish. You've only got so much material on hand. It's just a good idea because when the time comes you have to use, you know, you don't want to be eating the same thing every day. I'm just going to grab the corn. I'm just going to grab the corn. I'm just going to grab the corn. I'm out of corn. Hey, wait a minute. I thought there was corn back there. I moved that case of peas over there. If I looked at the sheet, I'd know that I only had 24 cans of corn. I thought I had 84 cans of corn or 75 cans of corn. See how that works? So, or cases of, if you're smart. But the idea behind this is that again with minimal effort and a very simple solution already that somebody has worked out, you don't have to figure out how to make it happen. It's already been done. So take advantage of it. That's the big thing guys. Also, go ahead, go ahead, Nicky. Jump in there. Yeah, Mark. This is Randy. Oh, okay. Randy, jump in there please. Go ahead. Yeah. I've received a saying today from the... and they're wanting question number nine. Michigan hunters here in venison, they harvest in a variety of ways. Carrying is defined as offering raw meat. If you shared venison during the past 12 months, to whom did you provide it to? Without none of your business. How many people did you direct provide venison? Do you not include S-groups and donated to provide venison? They're trying to get ways of... Well, they're tracking the supply chain is what they're doing. This is one of the things... Notoriously, if it's a DNR in Michigan, it's a dirty deed. It has nothing to do with helping anybody. It's usually some way that they figure on how they're going to try and argue that you need to have a license because... They may also be looking to impute commercial activity to somebody and say, okay, we have jurisdiction. Now, the other thing to bear in mind is that the low-level person who is gathering the data can be told, oh, well, we're trying to track prions and we care about people south. Oh, okay. And they bop around and naively pursue these things and will sincerely think that you're being a grumpy mugwump for telling them none of your business when in fact it's their bosses that know that they have darker intentions. So don't conflate the bosses with the schlubs on the ground. Schlubs on the ground more often than not don't know what they're doing anyway. They're told these lies by their bosses and they believe them. They choose to believe them because they've got an interest in believing them. You ask too many questions or look too skeptical, you lose that paycheck. Well, you cannot wipe out entire populations using bullets. It's just way too expensive and after a little while you start losing personnel and equipment and some of the bullets start coming back again. You attack hard points with bullets, but entire populations you attack with food and with disease. Exactly. We appreciate the heads up on that. We need to see the form if you can or get us another copy of it. We'd appreciate that. Sound good? Okay, tell you what Rook, we went into the collar, I heard another voice, who do we have? This is Fluffy, I have a gun question. Yeah, go ahead. Do you know anything about the 204 Ruger? I bought a Ruger M77 and 204 for, well, dirt cheap would be an understatement. The Bolt ammunition is out there. Double check with, in fact, Palmetto State Armory, number one. That may be the reason they got rid of it. It's a highly unique, new cartridge. One of those innovative cartridges they came up with that really didn't jump up. Check with Palmetto State Armory and, oh, what was the other one? There was another company here. In fact, this new one that we just got, I'd check them too. The guy who has mentioned here is sellawayr.com. Sellaway claims to have some right now too. Sellaway.com. $26 a box. $27 a box. These are nozzler. Go ahead and give that out again. You were bushing up a little bit. You repeat it slowly. W A Y armory a R M O R Y dot com claims to have 204 Ruger at 26 and $27 a box. This is Nosler brand 32 grain all up upper end. Yeah, that's that's a good load though The big thing is it's like six millimeter or any of the the six fives that were out there that were showing up It I think fits into the same category as the swift cartridges in terms of performance It was just one of those ideas. Did you get the rifle for a good price? Under 200 bucks. Oh, where Ruger? 77? Yup. Oh, you stole it. Yes. I don't care what caliber it is, you grab it and start collecting ammo as you can afford to. Did it have scope or anything on it? No, no scope, but it does have the rings. Oh, no problem then. I just grabbed some inexpensive optics to make it nice, like we were talking about the other day here. Barkus was the scope company. I don't know why I could remember this. The Barkus scopes that are out there are cheap. They've gone twice what they were though. They had three times what they used to be. When they first came in, they were introductory. Now they're established. The prices are up and the American exchange on the dollar with it is changed. There's a good wide range of scopes that are being offered by all of these Russian companies. There's about five or six of them. and you can find a nice fixed power 9 power scope that would go on that rifle that would be just nice and simple for about $40 and that would give you something to throw on it right away to experiment with it. Now they make all kinds of varmint adjustable scopes, lit rectacles, a whole nine yards and you can still keep the price down to about a third of what you would normally spend. Yeah, I was going to bring up earlier, you know, JG is offering a K98, it's at 250, I was going to roll my eyes and editorialize about the price trends, but you know, if somebody considers under 200 to be stealing it, then a K98 at 250 is probably not awful. Well, for a Model 77, that's a modern rifle though, you see, that's the thing, the factory gun coming out. So it was worth it. I mean, for anything, a 200 or less, You could turn that rifle around quickly at the show, put a simple scope on it, have a couple boxes of ammo with it, and you could turn that around for twice, almost two and a half times what you paid for it. Easily. That's in like new condition, and I found one on Gunburger, with the only difference being it had eliminated stock and no scope of all rings. for 9.25. I mean in a semi-auto gun like an AK or an AR because you have somebody who appreciates that cartridge because it is a unique cartridge. If they're interested and they're into the modern hunting cartridges then they definitely will want that. Some people collect 77s. I used to have customers that bought every model of Ruger 77 built from the smallest game getter all the way up to their elephant cartridges. They are all worth more money now. Anything that is in Remington, Winchester, or in Wrooger, eventually they don't make them. There are always model changes and people that are what they look at as an investment. I never have a problem with that kind of a trade because you are not out anything. In other words, you got it for a good price. You can take it in and get something else that you want unless you want to experiment with that rifle. You are not going to cry because you got a good return on it and you probably could trade one for one. Or one plus whatever you want. You can make the deal of whatever you want, whatever you figure. I can do something that is not papered. Right, that's what I was thinking about doing since it's in 5mm, the .204 caliber. Yeah. And the parliament gun, and there in the deep side there's not that many long-range violence. Yeah, well it would be hellacious, anything that hits it's going to chew up. One of the things about it, all of these hyper-velocity game getters like it, you know, small game getters, is they are mean guns. It's just the idea that it is an oddball caliber out. It will be an odd man out for loading. And for that reason, if you could move it towards somebody who is already committed to the cartridge, then it would be a good thing for them and a good thing for you. You know what I mean? Right. That's what I was thinking. of trading it or selling it to something a bit larger like a 30 caliber. Yeah, well I think depending on who it is, a very common 77's and not a 6's or not a dime a dozen but there's a lot more of those out there. Whereas, you know, normally somebody doesn't want to spend as much but if they made a deal where they got the at 6 for a cheap like in a 77, They probably would trade you out and be happy because they got it for a good price. You got yours for a good price and both parties think they did well, which they would. Because again, it's like, it's the old story. It's like Dancing with Wolves. Good trade. You got what you wanted, he got what he wanted. But I was happy. See, I did that years ago. There was a little article in the, I mean, I shouldn't have even sold it anyway, or didn't sell it. I traded it. One of these guys came into the show and I had a British number 5 Enfield. It was immaculate. It was before all the others that came in in that wave that were from India. This was a British number 5. Immaculate factory knew. I made a good deal on it. I paid $10 for that rifle. Years ago. Well, the guy came in, looked at it, and they just had an article in American Survival Guide that said you need a British Enfield jungle carbine. Well, the guy had a Mini-14 with 6 magazines, 30 round burger magazines and about 400 rounds of ammunition and 2 or 3 20s. And he goes, I really want your rifle. And it's like, okay, what do you want to do? And he said, I'll treat you this, this, and this, and this. Hey, Dad. Okay, we got you. Yeah, I hate to... Yeah, we're at the top. We gotta go. Okay, pass. Well, anyway, real point is, I traded for obvious reasons. I got $12 into the weapon, $10 plus, you know, well, actually it was $12.50, because if you divide it up, I bought like 20-some weapons for set price. And so I traded out, so I basically paid $12 for a brand new Ruger Mini 14 with all the extras, Bells, Whistles, Flash Hiders, the whole nine yards. That's how it works. So that's the kind of trade that everybody's happy. He got what he wanted and I got something I liked. So we're both doing well. Anyway, we're at the top. BK, anything else, sir? Jump in there, please. No, we are six minutes over. Let's wrap. Oh my goodness. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on a march both day and night. Hoorah! Thank you, sir, guys. You take it easy. Pay attention. More LTR coming up right behind us here on Friday. We'll be back on Monday. Bye-bye. Your conference recording has... Please stand by while we try to reconnect. For the Savior on high. 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