Live 365 You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children? to live in fear and be a slave. 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Many hands make for light work a million petticoat junction operators. The ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Now before we go any farther, do we have Daryl with us? Just sort of dink, dink, dink. Just to be safe. And again, it is... Hold on here... And there we go. Entering that for our friends in the chat room, it is the 23rd of April. It is the 6th year of open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K-2014 Old Earth Calendar or Mayan Crazy Town Crazy Town Calendar Yes Battlefield America it is the year 2014 Precursor actions leading up to ground conflict in the United States are taking place now for all of you it's Weapons Wednesday D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- As it is, Space Plasma Rifle 40-Watt Range, Uzi 9mm carbine, the Spasplo shotgun, AR180, whatever it is that you're, you know, niche, your happiness. You're gonna make sure you need, understand you need ammunition, magazines, spare parts, and let's not forget cleaning supplies. The big thing is a lot of your cleaning support guys for your weapons is pretty cohabitable. In other words, just because it says it's an HK cleaning kit, well it's a 30 caliber cleaning kit. It was designed to handle an 18 or 20 inch barrel. It won't have any problem with your 30 caliber AK barrel. So a lot of the cleaning kits that are out there that are actually bigger are awfully handy because they work with more than one weapon. Unfortunately, a lot of you have seen but figured that out, I believe, because there were a few waves of, here just in the last two weeks, there were a few waves of the West German HK91 cleaning kits that came in, but everybody bought them out. I checked with one of the wholesalers, and even he was bought out, and he's the primary distributor for those things, but they've got another container coming in, and I believe that they have some that are there, they're checking the warehouse for me today. So I'll have more information on that. And that's from of course the southern part of the United States. Out West, we will have more particulars. I hope soon on what's going on with the support for the Bundy's because I'll get that finalized immediately. But I will put the word out again if we've got anybody going from the Paradise, California area either passing through or that they're in the Paradise, California AO. and they're going to be headed to the Bundy Ranch. We need, again, make contact. If you would like to send me an email, it's liberty at provide.net. liberty at provide.net. liberty at provide.net. Now, I can still get stuff there. Otherwise, we'll be spending part of the money, though, that we could be spending. Again, material will be spending it on transport. If we have to do that, we have to do that. We're going to live with it as it is. I'm going to determine that in the next day here by what they have available and then how quickly we can turn it around and get it on site. We do have a long list of things. We are going to have a guest up at 8 o'clock. So guys, it's important if you can pass the word. Try to get everybody we can. here at 8 o'clock for the evening intel report. Okay, please take the time, pass the word on. We need as many people as possible to make it here for, again, the evening intel report. Duns, we've got it all set up. Duns is going to have a guest for us already in place, guys. I've got a good understanding. We'll have to do with what's going on on the ground out there. And what it is we need to do to straighten things out or fix things up or improve the situation, there is no excuse for our troops on the ground not to be taken care of. We are not in a shooting conflict yet. We have a massive amount of material and support all over the country. We also have the thinkers. They got the stinkers. So there's no reason for this not to be done right. The big thing is focusing resource wherever we can. Now a couple other things here. A couple things I have noticed. Number one. I have no problem with the Air 15 rifle. If you're carrying it, you're a wonderful man. Keep doing it. But, I love the AK-47. It's a wonderful rifle. I love it. But, if you're deploying out there, and if at all possible you can be a heavy rifleman, I would point out, look at the distances, take a look at the battlefield. Heavier projectiles reaching greater range are a good thing. So if you are have the option to go out with an HK 91 or you know in a 308 rifle You're gonna have to bring more ammo with you because again you see there's a lot of 223 down there Always gonna be this is gonna be the case on and with any deployment the lion share for the moment will be 223 and 762 by 39 Probably some 8k 74 is in certain units, you know the five four five by thirty nine because it's dominant guys it's out there so we have to acknowledge that it's a light rifle category but remember we're not like rifle territory okay so wherever we can get heavier support weapons in place it would be a really good idea uh... three oh eight battle rifles f and f a l so or h k ninety one's or again any of the other three oh eight long-range weapons Well, probably the best example is these PAP-77s that are available through classic firearms. They're not the only ones that have them. JG Sales has them down in Arizona. At least they did. Now, how many do they have left? I don't know. A NAGOT rifle, most of you have one. It's cheap. It should be in your golf cart, guys. Okay, just that simple. Why? Well, because... There's more oh, let's see get rid of that hold on here. I'm trying to get to where we need to be long guns there We go the nagat rifles and they got weapon in a position is awfully handy with the 30 caliber bullet That's in 150 160 or 180 grain range that can reach out 7 800 yards and fudge you just like the light rifles have to at 200 yards So, something to think about there. Wherever possible, supplement, bring in that extra golf club, take it with you, and take a couple spam cans or a free deployed combat load, you know, bags set up so that it can be employed, left in position, and is on standby. and then understand and or know how to use it now there are a number of different weapons but the one I was going to bring up here all it looks like a handful of different peppers have shown up in at classic firearms but that's not what I'm looking for all the PAP rifles that are out there that are in three oh eight there we go five hundred oh Well, if you buy a bunch of them, they're $519, but the price is $550 for the rifle. I don't want to double check how many mags come with it. There are additional mags available, but I, in fact, it comes with one 10 round mag. This is a poor man's dragon off rifle. Mark, it's $540.00. Yes, I know, but it's still a poor man's dragon off rifle. It's the closest thing to the Sega's that we were getting that you're going to run into price-wise now. But it's not, it's a 19-inch barrel, which means, nope, it's not the Shorty 16, thank God. And it's not the .22 or .23 which I'd prefer but I'll tell you what I can live with a 19 inch barrel on a Dragunov platform. Okay? So this makes for a really nice .308 placement rifle. Now the advantage of this is it's a Stava PAP M77PS rifle. Classic AK styling in .308 caliber. Well that means it's in the longer Dragunov slash SVD slash RPK receiver. The advantage is that was a beefed up receiver to begin with, number one. Number two, this is a really nice come hold stock which offers greater strength to the buttstock. It is a sculpted stock. If you don't like it, you can switch it out for any number of other ones that are readily available on the market right now that are nice stocks to include the original SBD stocks for probably about what, $10, $15. However, I just leave it as is. Don't spend your money on changing anything on the weapon. What you do is add to it. Number one, for a flash hider, if it has the threaded barrel, and I still haven't gotten the confirm on that, if it has a threaded barrel and cap, then I would go with the Polish elongated night fire flash hider. It's available through a number of different companies. Basically it looks like the M14 with a little bit of a bulge your back into it because it has a bit of a taper. However, the Polish make phenomenal pieces of equipment. It will work flawlessly. That's if the barrel is threaded. And if you have an AK, I would recommend that as one of the two basic flash hiders slash muzzle compensators to use. It's not a compensator because But the AK-74 types are a good choice also because of what they do. Now, the Polish flash hider is to reduce it, but if you can't get that at Tapco, 30 caliber, AK flash hider will go on the end of that because it's designed to slide around the sites. Okay? But now that settles the front end. Beyond that, the next step is optics. Well, go to dealextreme.com and buy two or three. Now, I'm going to remind you, if you buy three at a time, you save a couple dollars per mount. So it's a personal choice. Can you use three AK side slide scope mounts? This rifle has the bracket on the weapon, so it's all set up for the slide type scope mounts. What I would do is get one of Dom's first generation night vision devices and put that on one of the scope mounts. I would take the other scope mount and put a high powered rifle scope on that, a long range scope. Then the third one, if you choose to buy it, I would go with an intermediate scope mount or I would build an exact copy of the first in the high powered long range scope that I just recommended. Now there's only two variants in the third path and there's a reason for that. Number one, if you want a number of different golf clubs to choose from, I can golf at night with Don's Night Vision first-gen scope. I can then use a longer range scope for putting bullets down range out to a thousand yards with this .308 rifle. And even though some people would say, Mark, that's not a matched rifle, no it's not, but I'll guarantee that I can put them in close enough that you'll wish to God that you were undercover rather than standing there wagging your weenie at me. See how that works? In fact, if I decide to get really good and focused, I'll guarantee I can kill you with this rifle a thousand yards. If I can do with an M14, I'm pretty sure I can do this PAP rifle the same way. In fact, when he puts that bullet down range, you will die at 1,000 yards just like you would die under the barrel of my M14. Okay? So, the long range scope, considering the ranges and the mission of this rifle, which is a placement rifle, is designed to put a bullet into people that need to die that might be very high priority targets. or targets of opportunity. It doesn't make it difference. Either way, the weapon is a mission-specific platform. So think of it that way. As a night vision weapon system, it has the superiority and penetration and range with the .308. Remember that you will be able to see farther than you can shoot, which is always frustrating. Even with the .308, even with a .30-06, even with a .338 Lapua, understand that the field of battle, once things escalate, you can watch people move and you can't do anything about it. You see how that works? But, again, with a heavier caliber, at least you can reach farther out and do more than they might suspect. Okay, so that's one of the reasons I would choose this rifle as a weapon to carry out there. or at the very least is something that should go into the inventory. If you're going to carry two long guns, a nagot rifle built up however you want to do it, or just as a regular nagot to give you some greater range and a heavier bullet. And again, even with iron sights, guys, you can see farther than you can shoot with pretty much anything you're going to carry out there. But with iron sights and especially working into that environment, at the very least a substantial amount of harassment fire can be generated utilizing these weapons. Now, this is otherwise magazines. There are several places in the country that have magazines for these PAP 77 rifles, the M77 PS's. Okay, they're .308. Some of the places that have them are offering three mags and I think they came with three mags but I think the guys that are getting them are stealing two of the mags and since Classic only has one mag with a weapon that tells me they pilfered the mags and put them somewhere else. Okay, and they're not in the mag section that I can see though. Anyway, this is a good rifle. there are a number of different options for it it is this this stop box p p m seventy seven p s rifle they're running about four hundred and forty two four hundred eighty dollars depending on who has them and how many mags come with a weapon none of them but i have seen yet come with the uh... scope rail you know the sides like a scope rail you know the the uh... the uh... the uh... mount that the uh... scope goes on all of these rifles have the slide on fixture or the mount So they have the bracket which is the most important thing now from there you build up the weapon the way that you want What Mark thinks works may not work for you, or you have your own ideas congratulations run with that puppy I'm sure you'll do fine See how that works anyway. We might have a series of callers or maybe we got Darrell with us. Do we have darryl first of all? One two three we don't have darryl. Do we have callers callers jump in there, please? Yeah, this is nice again. Go ahead sir. We got you very good choice. Yes, yeah And since I went out on the handout switch, it's similar to... You know what? For the price, we're going to have to look around. Some of the guys in the chat room might bring them up. I was recommending the Burris knockoffs that are done by the Russians. There's a bunch of them and they're actually quite cheap at about $27 to $30 apiece, $35. But that's if you buy three at a time. Now, since you're doing a 5.10 program and you're building all the same rifles up, I'd put the same scope on every one of them and save money that way because typically if you buy three or six at a time you get a better price. You know, you save $10, $8, $6 per scope and that's the way to go. I wouldn't go a big variable power scope, I mean like multi, like a wide ranging scope, only because most people just are going to lose track of it. You're better off with a fixed power like a 9 to 12 variable, they still make those. But there are several variations that you can get that are quite reasonably priced. In that particular capability, that niche of performance doesn't need to be a little bit reticle, although that seems to be standard with a big chunk of these companies. It was something everybody was pushing, so that seems to be out there. uh... all come on with the hell's name the the the rumpkin one talk i'm trying to give you the name of the russian company uh... centerfire even had the effect hold on just a second i got me thinking i'm gonna find out w w w dot center fire systems dot com now these were not chinese these were russian and they had a wide range of not capco offer used offer them i don't know if they still do but there's a company that capco absorbed that had the best prices in the country on these things and that's why Tapgo carries them now if they still carry them. But they used to offer the scopes as introductory scopes for $19.95 a piece. I'll get it out. My mouth will work. $19.95 a piece if you bought three at a time for their basic light rifle scope. for their long-range heavy rifle scopes. They started at 27, but they even had some phenomenal long-range competition scopes for about $78 to $90. So you're talking the tack driver benchmark stuff. I'm looking at centerfire while we're talking, and let's see if we can get into optics. There we go. They do have optics listed still, and they used to carry some of these. Wow, okay. Well, we still have a few goodies on the shelf. Nothing is super exciting. Uh, oh hold on here Next, this is probably a knock off of what we're talking about right here. There's a standard 3-9x40 reticle intensified scope for $50 a unit. Now that's an armored scope and you'll find variations on that in China Sport all over the place too. They're also offering an NC Star 3x9x40 reticle. Dual illumination mill dot sniper scope for $4199 Now that's at Centerfiresystems.com. I had looked to see what they were carrying most recently. You can spend more and they have more. You can buy them for whatever price you want. You'll find whatever variation. On page 2, They're you're looking more at the hundred and fifty hundred and sixty hundred and ten dollar range, but if you're looking for a five ten solution I would go the I just call I just called it out for you here now that doesn't come doesn't look like it comes with a Set of rings, maybe it does But they're offering the standard mid-range 3x9 by 40 dual mill for $4199 They're offering the 3x9x40 reticul intensified scope. Now that's a rubber armored scope. It looks like it's either gray or black. For $50, that's not a bad idea. It looks like it's armored. It's got full lens caps, both front and rear that flip up. That's another nice feature. Magnification 3-9, tube diameter 30mm, objective diameter 40. FOV feed at 100 yards 36.6 to 13.6 eye relief 2.76 to 3.15 inches rangefinder, reticle, rangefinder so it's got increment. That's a basic scope right there that's one that we've seen the China Sport ones were going for about $28 these are maybe China Sport but you know remember the Chinese are demanding more for their stuff. On the other hand, and looking at, oh these do, forgive me, you know what, they do come with rings. Both of them do. There you go. So that will give you rings, whatever rail system you're going to work with. I would recommend checking out dealextreme.com or even, oh shoot, well even as I told you this says back orders on the one right now, sorry about that, but that's basically what we're looking at. For about anywhere from 28, Biro, Biro, it's, oh, how do they spell that? Boy, you got me thinking here for a minute. The Russian Scope is pissing me off right now. They're basically in the same family as what we were talking about here, but they were about $27 to $28 a piece, if you buy three at a time. And I'll try to find a company that still does that, and I think if we shop around, we can find one. But Centerfire is pretty good about their material. So if they have it, if they, like, they'll let's say if they have it in stock. The $50 no name brand armored scope, serviceable enough. I would throw that in one of my weapons. A lot of the stuff I built up, to be quite honest, like I've said before on the air, what I used to do is I would go to the gun show and watch the used tables for scopes people were taking off because they wanted the latest Corvette. Buric scopes are really nice scopes. They're durable, they need to get the snout bead out of them. Amazingly enough, even if it's an older Buric and it loses its seal, Buric still would rebuild up until a few years ago. I haven't done anything recently, but you know, a lot of four or five years ago, my dad's Buric scope finally went out on his Savage and we called them and they said, oh, we'll rebuild it. And so they took the original scope in, reconditioned everything, put it back on the weapon. He doesn't shoot it anymore. He's now in his 90s. But back when we did this, the amazing thing is Burris did 100% rebuild for free. So I don't know if they're still doing it. I don't know if it's changed hands. But that's why I like Burris scopes because I found that we usually carry them in the field. I beat the living crap out of them. I mean, I do. I run through the field and we go through the bushes. and they've held up well. I won't ever dog that particular system but I've also never gone with anything very fancy. I believe in the concept of knowing what your point of impact is for your initial set and then using Kentucky windage. In other words, if I know that I have to elevate because of increased range, I change my point of impact with regard to how I set my crosshair. That's just a policy. The same with iron sites. It's just an extension of the iron sites. Again? doing that through Liberty Tree Radio. We don't usually do that kind of thing, so I was wondering, did you set a goal on how much we were trying to realize? No, what I did, guys, and again, for bringing this up one more time, the way we set this up is there was a discussion this morning about trying to get material, and we knew a short list. We know what they need. As far as the military items go, what I did is I made some calls. You know how it is, Ed. I've done truckloads like this before. I know. But this was purely at the other end. We'll find out what they have and how much here either in an email today or maybe tomorrow morning. But we figure if somebody wanted to donate to cover a block of stuff, $100 donation and if we have to do it with regular UPS, then I figured it would be the UPS, shipping would be cut off as part of that $100. In other words, we'll get $80 worth of stuff and it costs $20 to ship it. As it turns out, The way we're looking at this, we've had three people. You know good chunks of money in there hundred donations of a hundred dollars come in that's what I wanted to let you know Also, we've got some other donations that need to go out or realize By the way, I did see the night vision. We've got that packed up here. There was a donation for a visitor from the past She's donated before and she said she didn't get either of the original order so she was trying again Oh, that's a priority. You gotta take care of that one Yeah, in fact, not a problem. I'll track that one down too because again, we've had a couple of glitches, number one. That one I didn't have. I'll have to check on right away. I'll do that during the hour break. Oh, so much for the meal. But the other one, again, I'll remind everybody, the night vision, we sent out a call. I believe we only sent out one, but we may have sent out two, and we'll find out. that had the equipping CDs in the night vision portfolio. If you have those, don't send them back. Congratulations, you now have the equipping videos. We're shipping out the night vision videos, but we had to make another batch up and label them and all that. The jet ran out of the ink, so you know how that is. But those are all taken care of and they're on their way, so everybody watch your mailbox. We had another request for Night Vision for our friends in Rhode Island. You also have a big militia package coming, so watch for that. I was going to surprise you, but just let you know more than one package is headed your way. Again, if you would like to donate, go to Liberty Tree Radio and plug in to the donate key. It's right there in the middle of the top of the page, guys. You'll see that there's two lines inside that band of color. Donate's right in the middle. Go to that and under Donate Any Amount. Whatever you can donate, if you can help which you see, if you can donate $10 or $20 it's going to go towards gear or silo or there's a couple other things around the list that I went and checked and lo and behold, we're going to buy them out. With what we can do and the way resources right now, if the pallets go through, we'll do the pallets first.