Mark Koernke discussed Canadian railway companies issuing trespassing citations in Michigan, particularly in Livonia, with fines around $560 for crossing railroad rights-of-way. He extensively covered firearms selection and marksmanship training, emphasizing affordable shotgun options like Savage pump guns and the importance of developing individual shooting skills at various ranges. Koernke analyzed the Bundy Ranch standoff, praising the armed militia presence on overpasses that he credited with preventing a violent confrontation, and criticized the BLM's retreat. He discussed military science principles, air defense umbrellas using World War II Ploesti bombing as an example, and unconventional battlefield tactics including RC aircraft and drones. Callers contributed perspectives on Marine Corps marksmanship training and creative information distribution methods. The show concluded with criticism of aging senators and congressional dysfunction.
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He addressed a group that included the Vice President, the President, the First Lady. I'm told that speech is pretty poignant. It happened rather recently. I don't know exactly where to tell you to go for it, but look around for it because it's like 27 minutes worth of speech, but before it's halfway over, you've got fearless leader, Poki. at the speaker because he doesn't like what he's saying, I'm guessing. Yeah, I might be wrong. Maybe he's encouraging him. Maybe he's just trying to prod him along, but you don't see him petting him on the back, Mark. Is the expression of the leadless pharaoh or more antagonistic or upset? There you go. Yeah. Yeah, like don't do that. The peasants will get upset that you're not making everybody happy here. They aren't supposed to know this. You shut up. Well, look around for it. Maybe you'll find it. We'll see what comes of this. Maybe I can get a little more detail on it and tell you that you can find it right here. We'll see what comes of that. And again, for everybody out there, we'll actually the copper wire, if this is a copper wire release code is what it is, something where they are saying that they do not, what they're doing is giving them special dispensation to cut the phone lines. because remember this is what we already have with these rats in Michigan here guys we have we have Canadian jackasses that are cops and they hate Americans the Canadians you gotta understand hate Americans not everybody but most of the these characters are people we kicked out we kicked their ancestors out because they lost and anytime they can come in and pee on American soil and American faces they will Well, they gave Michigan, the prostitutes in Lansing gave the railroad agents and companies, special dispensationists, Canadian as foreign companies, to issue tickets for trespass on American soil here because the train tracks are now owned by Canadian companies rather than American. Now, think about that. Those are those railroad agents. Boy, this is back to the good old days, isn't it guys? But these aren't American railroad agents. These are fools that are actually from Canada and they're doing everything they can. There's no signs posted and they don't have to post any signs. They're just going to come up and run up on you and they're going to arrest you and cite you for trespass, you see? You mean the land that's 50 feet, either side of the tracks, you mean? Yeah, right away. Oh yeah, but you see what happens like what they're doing like in they were doing this in Livonia, Michigan People cross the tracks to go from one business to the next if you do that They've got pickup trucks with guys in them and they're running up and down the right away and they're giving tickets because you touch the train track right away And it's a five hundred and sixty dollars. No a trespassing. No fine. How do you like that one? Now you have to like if you're if you're in a city block and you can walk across the train tracks to get over there to where your other business is They they write you a ticket you have to go down to the over to the over next overpass However far it is walk across the overpass and walk back down heaven forbid You should just walk that distance across that open area. Oh, yeah See, that's why, again, I won't be surprised to hear a shotgun shell go off and somebody, you know, you see a red smear in one of those pickup trucks real soon because people are getting tired of them. and five hundred some dollars is somebody's whole weekly paycheck all their people that are so bad out of shape already with the economy the way it is they'll walk up and kill the bastard we won't have anything to say about it making five hundred bucks a week i feel like a rich man yeah exactly think about it and so somebody's going to charge you five hundred some dollars for trespassing on canadian railway a right away all day somebody especially on detroit with detroit's you know economy the way it is someone's gonna kill him hey i gotta go Okay, we are at the top, we're way past the top. We got a close for the moment. Ed's going to give us some music here. We'll do that a little bit late, but we can't wait forever there. One and a one and a two and a one. 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And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children? to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? So have gone up in price because they became popular and of course the government bought some so that made him even more popular Savage makes a nice pump gun for a reasonable price. Are they fancy? No. Are they workable? Oh, hell yeah. We've got tons of them. I used to buy them for $80 and $70 apiece at the gun shows. Standard guns, 12 gauge, bird barrels. They're stashed all over the place, all over the countryside. I've got them laying everywhere. Why? Because they were cheap. Stevens, Model 66, Model 67. There used to be tons of them around and under $100 for that gun every day. All steel receiver, all steel parts. and under $100 or about $100. Well, they're 12 gauge, although there's a lot of them, 16 gauge out there too. So don't poo-poo the 16 gauge. Just remember, you're not going to find 16 gauge on your enemy. You're going to be stripping off their warm dead corpses. 12 gauge ammunition, .40 caliber, .223, right? We know what the basics are. See, this is why I would like to see, and I wish there were, weapons like the old, like many of the little .223 niche guns, the Stoner rifles, when they first came out, not the Stoner AR-15s, the earlier Stoner rifles were half the price of an AR-15. which made them very affordable and you actually at least get into the bond of the battlefield with something that was just like what the other guys carrying you could gain or carry air 15 mags they worked in the stoner rifle all day the receiver was crude and rude and simple why she wasn't crude we're just simple okay but it worked Now, you need to be thinking the same way, but again, it used to be AKs were half the price of an AR. That was one of the big arguments is, why would I want an AK? Well, for $210 to $250, I could buy two AKs for the price of your $500 AR-15. And my AKs will keep working when your AR-15 clogs up with carbon. What's your point? Well now because everybody did finally figure out that the AK is a pretty reliable system and because of marketing, marketing, marketing, marketing, now the problem is that your baseline AKs or your standard AKs are basically the price of your baseline AR-15s. But it used to be two first, remember? Which is one of the reasons we recommended it. Hell, if it was the Sega gun guys while you were paying $600 for a baseline AR-15, remember when the SAGAs first came in in 7.62x39, in 223 and 308 or 760 by 54R they were $185 a piece and it wasn't that long ago. But then once everybody figured out, wait a minute, that really is an AK and they really are accurate, then the price crept up. It went from $185 to $200 to $220 to $230 to $260 to $300 and all the way up now close to what, $1,000 for a Sega or for a Vepr. So, again, things do change, but we're looking for solutions. A single shot or a double barrel, double barrels are actually pricey. There's no real cheap double barrel shotguns out there. In fact, the only way that less expensive double over unders, you know, were the way to go, double barrel over unders more likely to find for a better price than a side by side. because South America, Brazil, Argentina, even the Chinese brought in some inexpensive field grade over unders that were about 110, 120, 130 dollars apiece. And again, those are in 12 gauge. So don't go hacking down any barrels. You've got dronatoids and nematodes and hemorrhoids to worry about out there because everybody's terrified of those now. We call them RC toys, but everybody else has to use that special name. Well, then you're going to need a bird barrel. So don't cut anything down. Leave it right where it is. And remember that. Just keep reminding everybody. No, don't cut your barrel down. You're all terrified of the dronatoids. Since you're all terrified of the dronatoids, you know little toy RC versions. you need to be ready to hunt them like you hunt quail. Quail are fast and furious and twist around and we shoot them dead and we eat them. Now we don't plan on eating the RC toys but we do plan on hunting them and so 12 gauge, especially since the bad guys might provide us with some number four shot, you never know, I don't know what they're going to buy yet, probably double out buck, maybe some four buck, certainly some slug. be prepared to use all the above and don't throw away your game loads for the dronatoids that are made out of that nice chip plastic taking a big chunk on them with a big wad of 12 gauge yeah just like a partridge you don't fly well when they're lopsided and kind of you know rolling out of the sky wow that hurt for the partridge they're tasty for the dronatoids that just means that then you go hunt the operator down and use the same 12 gauge on him maybe just a buttstock Those drones won't be any higher than 300 feet, those are the ones you're talking about Mark. Well, most of them want to get closer. You know, the problem is, it's like everything else. Number one, they're going to make noise. Goose guns, my favorite is still Mr. 10 gauge goose gun. I've told you guys, air defense. The only thing that, see this is what gets me is in a military situation you want umbrellas of air defense at different ranges. So Mr. Goose Gun is your friend, Mr. 12 gauge is your friend, even rifle fire, but rifle fire is not most likely unless it's auto fire is not going to be used. And if it is in that three to 600 yard range, use the 223 in full auto. and use it like an air defense gun. Well you're supposed to guys, not just spraying and praying, but actually learn to use your weapon. And you're gonna be hunting like that. The world of the three dimensional battlefield has umbrellas of fire that are incorporated. If you have not studied this, you need to embrace military science. Instead of going, oh my god, they've got dronatoids, it's well. Well let me give you an example. Okay. Here's an idea of how the umbrella of air defense works and the Ploesti airstrikes of World War two Ploesti was the oil was was the were again the Romanian oil refineries or the the Close Eastern oil refineries. The only thing you could really reach were our long-range bombers the B-24s were used It was a bad situation every so many feet had an 88 millimeter gun. All of them were designed. Oh, oh, I had a problem Oh, okay, we're just stumbling. Anyway, the air defense was so thick, so dense, so many rings of firepower were available, and it was realized that flying at high altitude wasn't going to do it. But because of the German commitment to size of weapons systems, They realized that there was a certain niche where their weapons weren't quite as effective to offer a big umbrella of fire and couldn't come down to recover or engage fast enough at a lower altitude. So the altitude was chosen based upon the weapon systems available with regard to the Germans. And there's a niche. They didn't have something that fit in the 40 millimeter range. They went to 20s, then to 30s, but that was a minority caliber. And then they immediately jumped up into the 88s. Well, it was realized that that normal saturation area where like with the British, they were using a one-pounder back in the day. And for us, we were using the 40mm guns with singles, you know, buffer guns, what they originally would be based on. But a single, a double, or with a navy, a quad. Well, there wasn't anything like that really in the German inventory. But because of that, it meant that there was this area of space where it was least likely they were going to be engaged. and that was the chosen range for the approach and attack on Ploesti, on the oil complexes. Think about that. A little narrow niche where on the one hand there was massive fire power. 88's were every so many feet apart. They measured them in feet apart. That's how important the oil fields were. They had 120mm and even 240mm air defense guns to reach extreme range. The Germans used those in the flak towers in Berlin, but they also had them as deployed flak units in high priority defense target areas, not simply in flak towers, but also in static positions. Now, everyone goes, what's the big stuff, Mark? Well, it goes scales right down to the individual with regard to our battery of weapons systems and with the men on the battlefield that use them. Remember, we've talked about a combined arms team. In World War II, we had a family of weapons. We didn't have one gun that did everything. There were a number of different philosophies and overlapping policies that created this situation. But in reality, it was kind of a blessing because on the battlefield, certain people gravitated towards weapons systems that were available. Some men just simply preferred or became, you know, it was their area of expertise, their niche. Some people just simply couldn't hit the broad side of a bar at range if their life depended on it, and on a battlefield it typically did. On the other hand, certain individuals were simply spitting marksmen that no matter what range they were at with the weapon, if it was a proper weapon, the M1 Garand or the 1903A3 or the M1D, etc., they were tack drivers up to 1,000 yards. Everybody goes, I can't see 1,000 yards. Well, your site isn't like that person's site. Your skill isn't comparable to that individual. Each man is different. Each man ergonomically has different construction. Arms are longer, eyes are better, eyes are weaker. Musculature control varies. And that's why when you have an army, you start to sort. You look for the people with potential. You develop that potential. The same is true with the army that we're fielding right now to defend our liberty. so everybody needs to be thinking the same way. You need to experiment to perfect your skills to figure out where your niche is. Maybe you are a piss-poor shot and can't handle any long-range shooting. Oh well, don't tell me I can't. Not what I've been doing it all my life. There are people that go out and kill mule deer, which are a lot more ambitious than the average infantryman, at 6, 7, and 800 yards every year. They shoot across valleys. They make shots that are 1,000 and 1,000 up to 1,200 feet in distance, engaging a target that can travel a whole hell of a lot faster than a human being can cross country given the opportunity. See how that works? So don't say it can't be done. It's just that in your mind you've either chosen not to or you don't have the skill. And so we don't expect that performance necessary from you without perfecting, you know, slash developing and then perfecting that expertise. See, the military used to do that. We have dumbed down everybody because of the nature of the weapons that have been embraced, and because of a, again, a certain philosophy has been brought to the battlefield. And the last thing that anybody on the other side could stand is for everybody on our side to embrace maximum range potential. Instead of close order combat, which then is of course a thug fest and attrition, which is what they prefer because that's the kind of situation that they've developed in their mind's eye. And the mind's eye of their limited warrior cast. What if you change the dynamic? That's one of the things I've argued for years and it can be done, but you don't do it with the people who say it can't be done. Well, those who say it can't be done get the hell out of the way of those of us who are doing it. I'm not telling you to leave the battlefield. I'm telling you, everybody has their niche. Some people are going to find an area of expertise. There are people who can make a shotgun sing. There are people who need to be using a shotgun, not because it's a spray and pray gun and they don't have to aim because that's a fallacy also. You better aim. You better make sure that you're on target. You can develop the skill with the weapon systems you have. But there are people that just function in a particular range of engagement and that's what we need to identify. For those people who can develop their skill, they need to develop that skill. Go ahead. This is me, Peter. I just thought I'd chime in real quick. I have a funny slash interesting story. When I was in boot camp, which was ages ago, I'm laughing because it really wasn't. It was in 98. I was a Marine Corps boot camp for those that don't know me. I spent a lot of time on the basics of shooting and I was shooting exceedingly well. My primary arms instructor, they assigned one specific instructor that trained all the Marines and noticed they did really well. At one point in time I was on the range and I had four or five drill instructors behind me. I thought, oh no, I want to my in trouble for it. Because they're always talking about safety, etc. I get down in a shooting and they go, where did you learn to shoot? Did you learn how to shoot like that in the militia, the Michigan militia? Because they knew I was from Michigan. Because I was shooting so well, I was actually... theoretically could have won my company shooting. I got expert out of boot camp. They really were, they thought I was part of the Michigan militia and that's who had trained me because I was taking head shots at 600 meters iron sights and having fun doing it. So, but the M16A2 rifle, it can be done if you have the right mindset and training and they think that the Michigan militia members do it on a regular basis. So, just like put that out there. Exactly. One of the things to remember guys is that the skills that are developed in the military offers a dogma based upon, I don't care if it's Marine Corps Army, each one has their own philosophy by the way. Let's not forget this. The Marine Corps is an independent fighting force that has always had its own policy and philosophy with regard to rifle marksmanship. and they have always emphasized rifle marksmanship. In fact, for those of you who are collectors, if you don't know, there is a 1903... every military arm we possess, especially in the pre-World War II period, World War I, actually going all the way back to history of the nation, there is a Marine Corps variant in pretty much every weapon system and what creates the Marine Corps variant a difference in sighting system. Now we're not talking crude, we're talking that there were two different philosophies with regard to how iron sights were built and who specified them. The US Army's 1903 Rifle Marksmanship System was based on a combination of both barley corn and notch and peep sight option. The difference is with the Marine Corps is that they had another peep sight option built into the 1903 Springfield. Not the O3A3s or whatever we're talking about back in the day pre-World War II going back to World War I. And then the same is true with both the Navy Lee rifles and with the 30-40 Craig Jorgensen rifles that were adopted. a marine core sight different from based upon their philosophy of accuracy and performance and range with the weapon. So this is where again it's like everybody repeats this dogma, well you can't engage past 200 yards. Really, I want everybody to go out and look at the Bundy Ranch scenario we're just talking about here guys. How frustrating is it for any sight for both sides to be able to see motion and not be able to deal with it? See, it doesn't mean that they can't, well they're going to have Apaches. Well, when we get down to that, it escalates, yes. Then you're going to have heavier weapons systems brought to bear, choppers, tanks, whatever. Expect that. Your light or medium infantry are going to have to be prepared to break contact or to do the best they can to extract themselves from a situation like that. If they acquire or if they have heavier weapons then they would engage and use them effectively to the best of their ability and still break contact. In fact, they use them in fact for withdrawing operations, not necessarily for sustained operations. Keep that in mind. See everybody goes, oh my god, you need a panic. Now congratulations, you're a stinking infantryman. It's a bummer of a birthmark kid. You got a bullseye on you. I always laugh at him like, I didn't join the army to go to Iraq. Well, what did you join the army for? Because everybody always used to say, remember back when the desert dust came about? What did you join the army to call it education? Yeah, yeah. And you wore the green uniform and you're carrying a rifle as a side bar, right? See, we're talking about the idea that getting serious and understanding as an adult that you're on a battlefield and you decide to be a warrior, you work with what you got, you fight and you learn to run with the lay of the land and actually become really good at what you're at or your life expectancy is reduced dramatically. It's what I've been saying for all this time about getting serious about embracing military science, guys. It's not that you can't fight, it's that you've got to get really, really serious about it real quick. and then stay with it, stick with it. As militiamen, we're citizen soldiers so we have to balance this out with the fact that we have a work day. But you know what? Everything else, if you have a hobby, piss on football, your quote unquote hobby should be to immerse yourself in military science and understand the potential of the weapon systems that are available, what you can do with the technology that's at hand, how you can adapt other weapon systems, or again, at least know how to use what your enemy has. Everybody out there tonight rather than watching some goofy sports thing, you need to be plugging into YouTube and go through every video on every weapon system that somebody is playing with. And I'm not talking about those rifles and handguns. Right now there's a whole database out there showing you the Dutch Army operating their anti-tank weapons. The Swedish Army, the Finnish Army, the German Army. deploying and on training sites because people made their own personal videos of their experience in the in the the buddha swear Well, take advantage of that because those Bundeswehr weapons are some of what's going to be shot at you guys. Wouldn't it be nice to know how they work? They usually do really close up images showing you how to turn dials and how to adjust weapon systems, how to take safeties off, what you have to do to get the weapon operational. There's all kinds of pictorial information out there where it's something they can't fake out because they're at a training session where they want to use it on the range. So they actually have to use it the way they're going to be. You would have to use it. If you pay attention just simply by watching and using it as a visual instruction, you can learn a tremendous amount about do's and don'ts and how things do work and how they won't work. See? Even with aircraft, you know that right now, we were talking about this member about a year ago, you know there's a bunch of fighter aircraft for sale right now that are under about anywhere from $8,000 to $12,000 apiece inside the United States. functional jet aircraft. Now everybody, those are older, you want, well, they're coin aircraft. They have hard points. They can quickly be modified to drop ordnance and do all kinds of fun stuff. And you know what? I wouldn't be worried about papering them. The hell with that. It ain't going to make any difference when the time comes. But if you've got any pilot time on it, you paper it for the moment and you're ready for when you need it. Is it a throwaway? It's going one way in many cases, guys. You're going to figure you're going to have to abandon it or you're going to use it. But for the one time you could use it, it's priceless. It totally changes the dimension of the battlefield. Something we talked about before, these big RC aircraft. Guys, you've got one third scale RC aircraft out there right now. Do you know how priceless those are psychologically? To do exactly what we're talking about, changing three dimensionally the battlefield, instead of it being lopsided where everybody goes, oh my god, they got choppers! What about if you throw a bunch of junk up and out there and they've got to figure out what to do with it? You're buying time. If nothing else, look at it as kind of like a goofy target drone, but it can be better than that. This is part of cluttering the battlefield. Even if it's a minor item, whatever you do, they have to think about it. They have to re-engineer their brain on it. It changes completely the dimension of the battlefield. The first time that a small fixed-wing aircraft straights one of their pieces of equipment, the chatter on the radio is going to be all over the spectrum. especially if you waddle in and drop, say, a 40 gallon drum of napalm fuel that just washes a road area or something. You dump that 40 gallon steel drum that's already got a cap activator hooked to it. And in fact, it can be radio controlled nowadays with RC communication and you just tap a button and it goes, blah! It blows up before it hits the ground. Psychologically, do you know what that does for your side? Oh, it changes the world. Because remember, we're all dummies. We could never figure any of this out. Be creative. Start sitting down and thinking about how many ways you could be mean. And mean because you've got to stay alive. And as an infantryman, that is your job. Kill as many of them as you can and stay alive. To do that, you've got to be constantly devious and constantly creative. That's the thing we need to be thinking about right now. We're in a peacetime situation. Well, we're at a barely a peacetime We're in a dagger war situation. I don't know how many people they've killed We don't many other people you know how many other things we've never heard about recently that are you know Like we've always seen where the bad guys have gotten away with a number of different murders Of course, we can also say that if it's clandestine, you don't know how many of them we've killed That's in a dagger war. It's how it works. Go ahead. Oh mark I have someone suggest to me that I burn some copies of the checkest and leave them around marked Homeland Security Training Film. Yup, exactly. That's what I do. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, make a nice printer version, you know, like, you know, give it a number. You know, Homeland Security File 402. You know, for official, you know, official document, you know, training, you know, Homeland Security training film number three. Yeah. Yeah, give it impact. Even put the glorious Homeland Security symbol on it. You can do that with the labeling system right now. Or, or, or what's really funny is do a chair. I want to do one of the character caricature versions, you know, with the flying chicken, that kind of thing. So it looks really good, but if somebody's really paying attention, they might actually notice, but if it's small enough, they won't until they start to really investigate, and it's like, wait a minute. But by, you know, again, it'll get people to look at it, yes. Good point. That's again, thinking on the fly. We don't need to be fair with these people. They're commercial liars on the other side. Stick their heads sideways with every tool we've got. Yeah, that's where we are right now. I'm not trying to put a damp rag on anything. I'm asking everybody to think through where we are in this moment in time right now. Where can the Bundy siege go? What's next? What's inevitable? Because the Weezers immediately did the, they're going to do this and they're going to do that and they're going to use a grand jury and they're going to blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, yeah, duh. Your point? It was a close battle to getting started this time. Exactly. I didn't have a problem with that guy up there or those people up there above that one guy with a rifle. He wasn't the only one up there with a rifle. I mean, my God, people, even in the soft porn edited version done by InfoWars and the others where they did everything they could to edit out anybody that was a militiamen, when they back up, if you pay attention in the soft core version where they try to do as warm and fuzzy as they could, who the hell do you think all those people were up there on all those overpasses? Who do you think all those tactically dispersed people were all back up and down the ridge? Take a look and start. You'll stop the video. Don't watch the video as ear, you know, as eye candy. Stop the video and evaluate it. Analyze. Yeah, analyze. Exactly. Why do you think that I could, we joked about it, they should have been playing Custer's theme, you know, the seventh cavalry theme and put that in the background. Look at all those Indians. Wow. It doesn't mean the bad guys weren't planning on something else. We've already discussed that. They were. I guarantee that the backstabbing Gillespie was his job was to lie, try to set stuff up, but the best laid plans of rats and rodents never quite work the way they're supposed to. Never once you know again once you initiate something timing is everything it is very rare I'm going to tell you that it is so rare to see a plan go perfectly I mean letter perfectly that I watched and again even though you playing you have to plan on the fly guys you have a basic agenda you have a in fact it is a mapped out plan but the moment the first man is in motion something can happen and And I can recall three times as a unit commander where I have physically watched a clockwork operation just totally go exactly the way it's supposed to. I mean, it's one of those things where it can literally, you're not stopping and freezing on the field, but it blocks into your memory. They did what they were supposed to do. One action leads to the next action, which leads to the next action, which leads to the next action. Everything was executed flawlessly. It is so rare that it's weird. Even the light seems to be unique. Seriously, I can picture that while I'm talking about this. When you have a multi-faceted plan and you're executing it in the field and you're in life and death, It does go exactly the way it's supposed to. It's so rare that it's a mental benchmark. I'm going to tell you, it's macro motion. You hope that this will happen, but it doesn't quite work that way. It still works generally the way you want to. Run with that ball, go with that puppy, and just keep moving. Now, hopefully, well, at some point we can kind of pick the needle up off the record and go to the second song that we're supposed to be at this point in time and kind of get the plan back on track. But that really is how it works. My theory is you're waiting for the old boy to drop dead. Well, I think that, well, yeah, if they had that much time, the problem is that when you're dealing with a business horse, that the problem they've got is a timetable. We combine the economic issues, the economy in general, whether or not they want to milk, it works both ways. It reads an old fart too, ready to drop. Did everybody notice that that POS had to have notes while he was in that personal interview where he called everybody evil and bad and we're all terrorists, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He had to have stinking little crib notes just to talk. That's how pasty he is. That's how far around the corner he is. I've pointed this out for years and everybody else has caught on to this and they've talked about it a lot of the people have. These characters all came in during the forever young era where, you know, don't trust anybody over 30 and the reason we got to get rid of those guys that are in government is because they're like 60 years old or they were like 58 and 62 years old. We got to get rid of that guy that's in the Senate or that guy that was in the Congress. Then these pasty-faced turds, these characters that were consummate professional politicians, have embedded themselves into positions to the point where most of those same pieces of trash have to have a hospital bed in their office in the Senate. What's wrong with this picture? It is. And when nobody's thinking about it, these characters can't put, you know, they can prop themselves up and sit there, you know, in a chair for part of the day. One of the reasons most of the Senate chairs are empty is because they've got to go back to their hospital beds. Or they've got to have oxygen. They have no business being in those positions anymore. I have no problem with older people. But guys, for all their BS about how this is a dynamic and modern age, and they always use that BS with all of their backstabbing lies to destroy our heritage, but then you look at these characters and what they're doing and how they operate, they have no business being where they are. The only reason is because they're entrenching themselves for self-inggrandizement with regard to wealth. And the Senate is the best example. It's why the Senators were assigned and why we rotated them out because of assignment from the state. And that was a thought through process and that's something that we all need to be talking about more. Senators were not there for life. They were not even voted in on a regular basis like that and typically it was again on a signed position that was temporary. The other thing about those people is that at any time they could be recalled as needed. And they were. Remember, Davey Crockett, the very beginning, he was sent to see, well he went to Washington seven times. And he was recalled seven times. He's not the only one. Yeah, but it was term limits dictated by the state based upon protecting the state's rights, which was also to a degree protects each of the individual people's rights in many ways. But it is a check of balancing because states can become corrupt too and that's why you have the people as one of the legs, the state as one of the legs, and the limited federal government as a very small leg. And each one serves their purpose. We have to have a conduit to deal with the world. But we do not have to have it, nor should we accept an overbearing regime that has betrayed completely the trust of the American people. And that's what we have now with the District of Criminals. dinosaurs that should have been clipped 20 years ago. Right, and the House is just as bad. The Congress in general is dysfunctional. It's part of that, like I said, the atomic structure. If you look at normally, each atom has a specific value. There are so many, you know, the electrons function in a particular way, but they function cooperatively and in an intelligent process. We have no intelligent process. We are dysfunctional. It is something that as people we should have set our foot down on many years ago. We have failed in that. Because of this, the askew math formula exists is why we will end up in a war. Why we must fight because we are at a point where they are so disassociated from us. There is so much criminal activity that the only possibility is for the people to step forward and arrest the problem. as in stop the problem That's why we need this. That's why I'm not crying about the finer details anymore. And if there are people that are going to be there, and you know, like for whatever reason, or whatever problems, or whatever positive things, the people that got their act together will be in motion and will fight to the best of their ability. Some will scream, defecate in their drawers, and run like hell through the sagebrush, and you won't even see anything but elbows and tennis shoes, the bottom of tennis shoes, going in the other direction. and there will be a myriad of variations in between. Some people will be grabbing their bratwurst off the barbecue desperately to have that last meal before the dronatoids. Kill them all! Blah blah blah blah. Look how fast the BLM ran. Just a couple snipers on a couple hills. Well 500 men. More than a couple snipers actually. It's what they try to play down. Here's what it comes down to. There are 500 plus people on the ground that were armed. Now, it's what I said before, taken even with the grossly edited version like from any of these supposed Patriot Nets where they did everything they could to exclude the militia, they did. Even after this point where the militia is the reason that the sheriff didn't fill that bus up with the protesters. What was that bus for that the sheriff was bringing in? It wasn't for the BLM people. Their plan was to set it up so that the the the the protesters the Cowboys were going to be between the BLM and a big convoy of skanks who were actually lion filth operating out of Las Vegas One bus wasn't going to do it except if you calculate that they were going to grab the ringleaders and they were going to beat on everybody and they were going to have bloody faces and they stopped the traffic on those overpasses. The Sheriff's Department did it so they'd have witnesses so they could all go, yeah, did you see what they did to those cowboys? Boy, they really beat them down. Well, instead it didn't work that way because the second echelon were all the people that were armed with the teeth and upon the overpasses, down on the ridges, and everywhere else, people with guns backed up the people who were being peaceable and that's why we're still talking right now instead of this you know being even more horrific than it could have been or than it was because it wasn't horrific at all except for the bad guys and what did they do they retrograded out of the situation they fell back What do you mean? It's advanced to the rear, sir. Advanced to the rear. Here's the other thing. Now here's the other thing about those cowards. Did you notice how a couple of them did? And that's what I want you to look at. I want you to go back and watch these videos of that retreat. There are some of those guys who just literally shrugged, realized, oh, this is over, and turned around and started walking away. But the rest of them, the hardcore sucking up to the regime types, they were the ones who were walking backwards. Look at that crowd of ones in the OD Green uniforms behind the trucks. Look at the difference in how they responded. Some of them turned around like, I ain't going to get shot in the back. I'm not worried about these people. Look at the difference. It wasn't that they were being arrogant either. But what it was is the consummate paranoid police state types, knowing that they were doing wrong, their mind would be that they would shoot you in the back. That's why they were acting the way that they were. I challenge anybody on this. Think about it. Think these images through. Look at it. Because some of them were like, ah, we're OK. They just started walking away because they realized, now we lost the bluff. But the ones who were the hardcore pea brain nutcases you'll have to shoot were the ones who every step of the way well They were afraid they were gonna get shot in the back. No no they they were terrified because in their mind It's what they would have done to you. Oh, yeah, that's how they think That's why you see that action the way it is because there wasn't anybody other than just the old site It wasn't me for vendetta that respect there wasn't anybody gonna plug their arse unless they started pulling the trigger and then there was a whole bunch of other people who were gonna plug their ours. Big time. Yeah, so that's why they retreated the way that they did. They went into again retrograde! Oh well, man, we're gonna pull back. Oh, I feel really bad about this. Well, they feel bad about it because they were trying to continue to play act. Now, you know why they were doing what they were doing, a percentage and why they were probably even told their headsets? Because they were going to try and re-engineer propaganda like they did when Waco the first day took place. Let me remind everybody what happened the first day at Waco. The Batfaggots attacked. They tried, they killed all the dogs. They tried to kill the women and kids in the house, right? When they were done, guys, And they were allowed to leave after they got the snot shot out of them. Remember in the background they were doing the propaganda pictures lined up with their hands up in the air. Well that was the whole idea partially of what they were doing with this retrograde where these characters were acting like they were one step away from being mutilated by those evil patriots. Men of America stood up to them and walked them back out of there is what they did. And they didn't like the idea that they didn't get to play Knuckle Dragon police take good. and that they didn't kill the people that were there because everybody would have killed them back. 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