April 16, 2014
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1h 8m
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Mark Koernke and Don Betcher discussed the Bundy Ranch standoff with the BLM, presenting evidence of cattle killings and calling for continued vigilance against federal overreach. They covered preparedness topics including generators, pumps, and scrap material recovery; discussed firearms pricing and availability, particularly 1911 pistols and .50 caliber rifles; and emphasized the importance of ammunition stockpiling. The show included commentary on the broader implications of the standoff as a tactical victory in a longer war, military preparedness principles, and upcoming threats to ranchers in Texas.
- bundy ranch
- blm
- cattle killings
- federal overreach
- preparedness
- generators
- 1911 pistols
- .50 caliber
- ammunition
- night vision
- militia
- second amendment
- gun owners of america
- larry pratt
- weapons wednesday
- texas border
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He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent, although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay attacks you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be burned. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic in each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled, each God given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, is this still the land of the free? This is from If I send in another order for four or six, I can still get that ten unit discount. It travels on to a different number, but it's still open for a little while. I kind of force, you know, you really, you guys kind of levered the, in that world it would be called, leveraging the window open still. So the deal with the ten gun sight, we've made that with two to spare, and we still have a little more wiggle room to if somebody else wants to get in on that. Expecting I might even be getting a letter or two almost to the end of the week. But I'm not going to make the guys at the front wait that long. It just wouldn't be right. Not to mention, we've already met that goal. That was the initial deal, so we'll get that done. If you want to get in on that, that generation, gun sight. Now I remind you, first generation is older technology. But if you want to get in on that first generation gun sight, it's .308 capable. It'll live on top of your M1, your AR-10. My phone number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. Those are gun sights. We can talk about green screens, which is the first generation. but we can talk about thermal. You know, when I talk about goggles or gun sights, green screens or thermal, I do that too. I mention the difference because really technically even green screen is infrared and green screen works in infrared light. So if you talk about infrared, it could be a number of devices. It's not real. Infrared is a real general term. Even could cover generation zero. Guide a thank for the whole thought. line. E equals mc squared. I think I got that from a patent or a patent gave me an idea. At any rate, we'll get everything up and running. Like I say, that deal happened pretty quick. The last time we tried to do a deal like that, a bulk purchase, it took a month and a half or something. For a viewer, let me call my guy again and see if we can move in another direction. We'll see what we can now. After tax day, I thought I'd mentioned that. We lucky the day after tax day, you know the day after let's kind of rearrange that a little bit because it's it's the day after the day that if you don't file your taxes and if you haven't filed your taxes for a while, they'll send out people with guns to make sure you pay your tax. So that's the day it was yesterday and you know, they give you all kinds of good forms because if you can't make the oh, here's the phrase that we only reinforces the earlier statement. If you can't make the infernal revenues deadline, well you can fill out a form that will give you an extension, aren't you lucky? We could roll on through this in a couple of different ways, but I'm not certain. We should have Mark any second, but we're going to do the run up here in just a moment. I would say we've lived through the flood of Paris, and you've heard it before. We live in a trailer here. You guys upstream from me the creek was going in someone's house and out the other side. Upended so violently that it got moved into the trailer next to it. I would say that through the devastation that rolled through Michigan, Don got spared and he thanks God. Let's do it like this because you hardly ever hear it like this. He's Mark Cornke. And that's Don Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, west, central, southeast, and south. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com. We're on Indian Freedom Talk Radio, and we're on AM and FM microstations, CB Bay stations, alternate hallmark and golden spike technologies across the country. Don, I think you've already benchmarked the date. Oh, no. I've been... And again, the date, today's date is? Hey, it's the 16th day of April, year of our Lord 2014, and that is a particular day and requires motions of a mechanical nature, so that they emit particular noises, and it all goes like this, with magazine in one hand and Trustee 1911 in the other. Now the magazine is in the magazine well and now we can touch the slide and put one in the chamber and we can tell everybody it is weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure and you know there's plenty more where that came from. And that means we can offer equal opportunity coercive force. Of course, this is Weapons Wednesday. A couple things real quick. We're trying to get some stuff coordinated. BK gave us some critical information on materials support. We've been in contact with our people up here that deal with plastics. We're in the bidding process, I hope, right now if they can get hold of everybody. I don't know how much money they had available, but the material is useful for the type of work that's being done. and for other projects. So I don't know what they're going to bid on yet, don't know if they're going to get it. We'll see what happens, but it's an interesting process and definitely very, very helpful to the Patriot Movement. So I want to say thank you to BK for the heads up on that and the guys are in motion. It took me a little time to get back here, but It's how it works. We had to bounce around the state here and get hold of everybody. Some people were out and away from the house at 8 o'clock at night. You could be anywhere watching a movie, not likely, but it's possible. Wherever they were, we tracked everybody down and they were working on that project. Again, thank you to BK for paying attention to this environment there. The piece that, in fact, the guys in the chat room posted this. Thank you guys for the follow-up. 21st century wire dot com. 21st century wire dot com. The article is exclusive evidence of BLM exclusive Evidence of BLM's deadly abuse of animals taken from the Bundy Ranch a lot of links but also pictures of course there's a picture of the one cow I've seen it from other angles, but this is a picture of the cow that one of the cows that we shot Apparently from the air could have been from horseback, but either way shot from above and and of course put down on the property apparently guys But what they're saying, the BLM of course lying every step of the way. How can you tell when a government employee is lying? He's telling you this is not an attack or his lips are moving. His lips are moving. And as they said they didn't kill any cows but they went out and dug holes that weren't deep enough guys. And the one quote here, mass graves near their compound right off the highway, they were digging holes. They tried to bury some cows on the compound but I guess they didn't dig the holes deep enough. So throw a cow in and the dirt over him and you have cow legs sticking up out of the dirt. That's his comment by the guy who was investigating the site. Earlier this week Jim N revealed a secret recording of the BLM Special Agent in charge, Daniel P Love photo left. Now that's the murderer. I'm telling you that guy right there is a killer. That guy has been a murderer. He has probably been involved in murdering ranchers. I'm looking at him. I've been amongst a lot of murderers people and I'm going to tell you right now. I'm not talking about beard. I'm talking about mannerism, facial language, the way he acts. That person is a murderer. He has probably killed ranchers, shot him in the back. He is probably one of the hit teams I've told you about before. That pig right there, that's a person that does need to be shot. Always remember that. Don't let him get off the battlefield if you're fighting. Period. Yeah, he's a let's see if yours reply. Let's see. Let's see forgive me about that guys Daniel P Love who had stated that BLM have not killed any cattle if yours Reply to love's claim. He's a flat-out liar period well of course that's what everybody I mean, how do you hide cows? You know if you if you abandon you you've killed the animals and you've executed them and left a bunch of above-ground And you killed him and like half buried him. What do you think people are going to walk by and go like, wow, Don, look at cow hoof flowers. I've never seen cow hoof flowers before. Have you? No, but now I know where cows come from. That's right. They pick them a hoof at a time. You see how stupid that sounds? Yeah. So again, and by the way, here's one of the other things that guys can do. I'm going to tell you again, we need to contact the Bundy's at the other end, but anybody can help out with this. There are several mercenary companies that are photographing all of the US constantly at different times. Well, guess what? Here's an opportunity to scope out the site and understand what you're looking at here and who's in the zoo, so to speak. because I guarantee that not only they probably catch them digging the holes, but that you can see the area before the holes were dug, you can see the area while the holes are being dug, and you can see the holes filled with the cow legs even. Because cow legs are not a small thing and the quality of the digital collection with satellite nowadays is phenomenal. So, it's not like they can't demonstrate who, what, where, when. Here's a hint. Look for foreshadows. Yeah, exactly. What are those strange shadows there now? I don't know. What could they be? Yeah, exactly. Well, the swine across the board. You've got to remember, these characters, given the opportunity, are going to come back and definitely attack the Bundys. There's no doubt about that. The kind of wretches that you're involved with here, the fact that They are now up for grabs on a number of different levels with regard to lawsuits on a massive scale. The whores that were the BLM cowboys, whoever the hell those prostitutes were, well, there are a number of ways they can be dealt with. Are the phones still dead in that area? Do we know? I don't have any further...actually it appears that They're still getting out by signals, so whether or not they're using the phone system or if they're using a satellite phone or whatever they're doing, they're apparently using their technology now, or have been. I think part of that was, as we pointed out, two things happened. Number one, the system wasn't designed for a population group the size of a small town, moving into one area and trying all to use the same services. That doesn't help, number one. Number two is, well, don't forget that the shysters can shunt and or, you know, again, there's a number of ways they can either deflect your signals or they can, you know, stop all signals. And in fact, that's a precursor that was put in place back in 1996 through 1998 with a series of FEMA requirements that were laid down through the FCC. Those came through with Carter, guys. That's way back in the 90s. They've just attended those, you know, over-respectively. But that was all spelled out back by us no later than 1998. Same with the FM radio station shutdowns for the big boys. They have the ability to shunt everybody, you know, as far as all of their controlled media and throw out whatever BS they want to and that's it. So we just need to keep that in mind when we're looking at the situation here. Well, it reminds me of a situation going on here not really life threatening unless you look at it in a particular way. I mentioned the flood at the beginning of the hour for a moment, Mark. I talked about the flood here earlier in the week. One of the things I wanted to talk about since I found it out was yesterday in the AM there were places where the sheriff is warning downstream from me on the river, on the Muskegon River. below the Croyton Dam, it's going, they can't hold the water back. They have to open everything up and just let it go you guys. And if they do that, maybe the dam will fail. The dam might fail. We've had a couple of small dam failures in northern Michigan already. One on the Ross Common Lake, or a lake in Ross Common, which loads up the Muskegon River. Now, the sheriff downstream from me in the next county says, you guys gotta get out. because they live on a floodplain and it's going to get worse. Some of the people there have lived all their lives and they know how to deal with it. In fact, I thought to myself, well, when the sheriff said that you guys got to go, the next thing we heard, Mark, was the utilities are going to be cut off in those areas. Now, you can understand they cut off the gas, the natural gas. I don't know if those areas have natural gas. But, you know, because God, Lord, you don't want to see a fire during a flood! We've seen that before, haven't we? But, this very morning, Mark, they showed a guy on television on one of the scenarios I wanted to bring up. But we've been talking about other more important things, but this only underlies self-sufficiency. And if you choose to ignore authority and try to deal by yourself, you better be completely self-sufficient. because one man who had been through three floods over the last five years way down there on the river, he has his house sandbagged up and he has a sump pump in the basement. It's done in such a way that all the water goes to one place in the basement. He keeps his basement basically bone dry except for a little two-square-foot area. But you know what? He runs that electricity that he brings in from the aforementioned utilities that were shut off yesterday morning. Now his basement is full of water. But if he had his own generator, he'd still be just that needed dehumidifier down here kind of deal. But now he needs a sump pump that has a supply of electricity going to it. We've touched on this before. Now, you guys, this really is a self-defense thing. If you are willing to stay through the flood, you are kind of trying to defend your property. That which is extension of yourself. We shouldn't really think of our property as extensions of ourselves. But let's be a little human here. So the guy wants to stay around, but I would bet, Mark, that the utilities were cut off at the sheriff's point of this. Here is a phrase I can invoke there and it is completely the opposite because in this instance the sheriff and the utility companies sure didn't leave that guy high and dry. I didn't do that like a pun. It wasn't meant to be that way. for yourself, if you want to protect yourself, if you want to again defy the order to, you can't drive in there. We talked about this a few weeks back, that mud slide in Washington State. Cops told the guys, the cops told one man driving in there, they ordered him not to drive in there. He drove past their line. He went in there and saved nine people's lives. Hey, that's worth defying a little authority, but that The next day or two days later, but again, I would bet that that was a sheriff's order in the next county down into the left on the map mark. Shut off the utilities. We'll get them to move. I heard a number of things. I wonder if we've got any callers. Do we have any callers? Callers jump in there. Star six, time meet yourself. I think we have a lot of listeners in what we've got, which is cool. One of the things here again, talking about generators, guys, remember there's been a lot of people that have had stuff over the last year or so. They've had different events or activities. That's how we're running into a lot of stuff being donated over at the All the different church sales right now, guys. You'll find this winter, remember we had a couple of power artists, some people bought smaller generators, they donated the generators to the church services or to the sales. And typically, actually, what they did is went out and bought a bigger one, which I think is rather funny because, well, you've already paid for the other one, right? Why not keep that as another generator? What's the big deal? Oh, no, I don't need that. Oh, you need one? Well, that's cool in a way because we've been taking advantage of the tools like that. But again, watch for stuff that people are getting rid of. There's pumps, for instance, on that point. I just got one that is a pump unit that's two wheel mounted. It's one of the China Sport lung pumps. Not a very big one, but it runs with a conventional vertical shaft lawnmower engine. Like a lot of this stuff where they've adapted it accordingly. But what's cool is, cost me nothing. Free is a nice one there where you go, look at that. It's a root word of freedom. The thing is, the one I got has the pump, the other one I got is a generator tossed out. Both of them basically are the same. They are harbor freight type packages. I think the one is no more than about a year old. The other one looks like maybe two years old, only going by the color. But all of them stored indoors, obviously in a garage, and perfectly functional. Now, that's what you need to be doing. It's not a matter without you use it all the time, but an example is what just happened to this guy. It's the one time you need it where it pays for all the time you stored it. Provided you keep an eye on it and make sure you run it through every once in a while, check it out to make sure it's functional, etc., etc., but that's a personal issue there. You've got to take care of yourself. The big thing is don't let it go to the landfill. Because that's the most common problem that we see is this stuff ends up going to the land or scrap yard and that's just as bad if the scrap yard doesn't resell material. Sometimes they do, a lot of times they don't. And that's intentional because of the scams, a lot of these shysters that have gone into the scrapping business are not your traditional Americans. They're there for that reason to make sure the stuff is destroyed. Don't make any mistake about it, there's a whole bunch of shysters that are in the system. They were already shysters there before. But there's a whole bunch of characters in the system that that's what they do. We know who they are. We've mapped out where they came from. In a way it's cool because you get to find out who they're associated with. You find out who your bad guys are in your community. Did the scrapyard in your area turn from an auto scrapyard into a weight place and once the car is there they won't sell you anything? Exactly. Same thing. Yep, that's the thought line. and the idea behind that is, but anything else too, because you see there what's happening is anything and everything away at raw stock, normally a good scrapyard, put it off the side, sell it for a reasonable price, and it's finer, it's better American steel is not going to waste. As the industrial sites along across the countryside here are going under, being you know, shall we say shut down and resold, anything and everything that's inside is being carried away and goes over to the scrapyard. Now if we're lucky it goes to another scrapyard, which it does, people get tired of these other characters and I've had a lot of conversations and people are just tired of them in general, they're just in the attitude. So the cool thing is that the good stuff is going to another location where the gentleman will resell everything he has. In other words, you pay by the pound for it, now you pay a profit, which I understand and I have no problem with. I think he's wonderful, that's our kind of capitalist, right? But he's doing the right thing and the material is getting back out. Eye beams, brand new stock, sheet metal, anything you can imagine. For that matter, even just components and pieces. So the other characters are losing out except for the usual that are just migrating there without any common sense or without using their brain. They like those kinds. But the other site is starting to prosper and do a much better job of getting the stuff out of our area here and putting it where we can use it. If we can't get it right away, it's depo there. The other cool thing is if you need car parts or things out there, you go out and grind them or disconnect them and they're very happy to sell for a reasonable price. Parts that otherwise would be quite ridiculous. So, I mean, especially if you had to buy new or even if you buy used from a lot of other locations that are much more, shall we say, persnickety about who does what. So, it's again something you've got to watch for. The big thing is with the pumps, also Government Liquidation, goblecliquidation.com. A whole bunch of stuff coming through there right now, guys. However, I did notice Also, a number of generator trailers without the generators, which I think is rather interesting. Of course, if you're smart, which sometimes the government does, they'll steal them, turn them over to the CIA types or the spook and cooke, FEMA types, and the equipment will be in some clandestine location from this point forward, so they don't really want to hunt on the trailers anymore anyway. We've tracked down enough of that like the prison car train. You know, train cars are being built off in the middle of nowhere. You know, the full documentary, photographs, still photographs, all the serial numbers, the whole nine yards, guys. They bring the equipment in, tear it down, and reassemble things from the stuff they've torn apart. And that is the way, you know, that's the way that they conceal a lot of what they're doing out there. Just something to think about. So anyway, a couple things here. It's Weapons Wednesday on Centerfire Systems down on their front page. They're listing a bunch of .45s now. Well, the only thing is, talking to them even yesterday, it's like, well, yeah, we've got a bunch of them listed. But, boy, they're coming and going pretty quick. Right now, they've got free shipping. They've got a standard 1911. It's a plain Jane. It's the perfect gun for anybody out there looking for a 1911, a decent pistol. 45 BCP Rock Island mid-size with matte black finish ACI 1911-MS and it's $420. I'll throw the penny in there. They've got a compact for 400. That's okay, but not necessarily what everybody needs, although if you're looking to shorten the gun a little bit, the only thing is remember, a little more exciting muzzle flash. When you shorten the barrel, there's more powder left to flamethrower the hallway with. But both the Rock Islands in the 45 and in 9 millimeter Everything hovering at $400 or more though new that's the only thing so you're looking at a chunk of change But it is a 1911 and there is ammunition out there available. So You know if you're gonna buy it if you're really serious about a 45 or any of these handguns I'm gonna tell you right now buy your ammo now buy your ammo now and by the way I said that buy your ammo now I would be buying ammo anyway just as a policy with the way things are going to Helen Hancart, but that's again something we shouldn't have to reinforce, but we do because it's Weapons Wednesday. Now they do have, oh no, maybe they don't because I don't see that listed. No, back orders are being set out of stock on the standard 451911s are gone. Let's see, there was one other one I was going to check. I'm not worried about the nines. You guys will decide if you want those. Well, it looks like they're out of the, well again, about the same price for the mil-spec. Well, we've got Shooter's Arms 1911s in the 5-inch standard for $400. Again, non-hovering around that $400 mark is where we're stuck. Under $400, they just don't seem to be able to break that anymore. In fact, $440, $450, $460, $480 for the Rock Islands, depending on what it is. which is kind of scary because it makes the Glock prices look good. Yeah. For the used ones. Anyway, but for everybody out there at Center for our Systems, they do have a number of 45s in stock. $400, that's the center price. I would say I would go just the standard 1911. I wouldn't go anything fancy. The idea behind this is it's a straightforward weapon, easy to manage, easy to understand, pop, pop, boom, boom, and 1911 mags are everywhere for the .45. It's kind of ironic, Mark, because if you go back, and now we're reaching a little bit, but if you go back 12, maybe 13, 14 years, $400 was the price for a good Springfield a good call hold you know a good-looking gun no not a lot of holster wear or anything not shot out a good serviceable gun $400 used not that long ago now the new ones not Springfield and not cold $400 Rock Island used to be like oh 10 or 12 years ago 112 am I wrong Yeah, oh yeah in fact they were under 200 when I was trying to explain to everybody guys are not going to get cheaper We had more money, and they were less expensive Yeah, don't think about it a hundred eighty nine ninety five hundred eighty nine ninety nine under two hundred dollars for a standard rock island and that would be a little gussied up you know they were trying to trick the guns out to get your attention so they were throwing a few more goodies on them and That's long gone now. In fact, you could have bought two and had a few dollars left over for what you're paying for one now. Had one still in the box. Again, not chot out, no holster wear, $400. Or, like I said, two handguns are always better than one, I guess. I watch all these movies and you guys... Hey, if they're a match, you can call them a brace. That's right. I have a brace, a .45's a lot, and I do have two hans. Well, you know, you're supposed to put a cutlass or a saber in one or a machete in one and a pistol in the other and save the other pistol back. That's what you're supposed to do. That way it's bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop the Larry sells the entry-level bolt-action 50 caliber on the continent. Another way to say that, a cruder way to say that would be the cheapest bolt-action 50 caliber on the continent. Now we're talking BMG. His number is 9521010. That's 10-10 from now on. Again, 9527210-10. Larry Watson at Watson's Weapons. Sometimes you call him up and Larry answers the phone and he's more than happy to answer questions, talk like, but I'm pretty certain if you go over to Watson's Weapons that you'll get a lot of answers there and see an all-metal .50 caliber and see some other pretty, .50 caliber. You don't have to worry too much these days about wooden beds when you come up with wood that's, I'm guessing, Mark. 62.7% laminar plastic. They glue some woods together or when you pay for some exotic woods. Wow, you can get some pretty looking stocks in some competition 50s. Not that it will make you a better shooter. I'm pretty certain that Barry uses Walther Luther barrels, but even Walther Luther barrels come in gradients. and he uses what they call the sniper grade. If he does that, you can even get that barrel in the all-metal Section 50 caliber from Larry Watson at Watson's Weapons where the phone number is. 952-472-1010. Again, 952-472-1010. Before we move away from talking about people. Did we have Larry Pratt with you at five o'clock? Yes, we did. I think we really got into the comment even from his end of course. The discussion has been the Bundy Ranch situation for everybody out there listening. I will remind everybody that we've been hitting the Again, there are a whole bunch of links in the chat room. Take the time, plug them in. Gun Owners of America was created from a coalition of several smaller and independent pro-firearms groups back in the 70s and 80s. Most people don't know that. Tennessee Gun Collectors Association was part of that. I've really gotten into the conversation about years ago how this came about, but the foundational mechanisms were like a baton passing from a whole bunch of very experienced and tough fighters that were again in alliance with Neil Knox years ago. and fought the battles that everybody is so familiar with that we talk about like you know what happened with Mr. Lippier betraying all the American NRA members because Neil Knox of course said no compromise. Well, Mr. Lippier was real quick to compromise and look the arse of George Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Clinton alike when the time came and that's how we got all those gun bans. But back in the day, Neil Knox and Tennessee Gun Collectors Association, several different groups. Some of them smaller, some of them bigger. But that became basically the impetus for Gun Owners of America. GOA is you know it. And while NRA is getting up off its dead ours because everybody is starting to realize that they are sitting on their dead ours, and they're only doing that for propaganda, they're going to fail us just as quick as they start making any noise. The NRA is notorious for that. Only if some of their oxes are gored like their trap and skeet guns are threatened. Well that's when they'll of course maybe get up a little bit and make some noise. But as long as they take just your shotguns and your common bird guns, that'll be okay. As long as they get to keep their trap and skeet guns. But Larry Pratt, well, he doesn't know any of those kinds of restrictions. Everybody understands that this is a fight for the common right of the American people, for all of us, each respective individual as sovereign rights. That's what the whole mission is. Originally the mission was for gun owners of America. That's what they were doing at the state and to a degree with this confederation at the national end. It became a progressively better focused and expanded project as Larry and other individuals came together and made it happen. Just a little history there. I had a strange trade today. I finally caught three hogs in my trap this afternoon. I don't know how to do that. They usually come at night but I got three hogs. The guy next door to me gave me two gallons of break free for three hogs. He said he was going to chop all the hogs for me. He just wants to hide. I don't know what's that for. He wants the weather. If he wants to hide, he's making big weather. Here's the thing, I came up with this idea, if there's a conversion point, like someone rent a U-Haul trailer or something like that, we could pack it in with food and supplies, and I'd be willing to give that break for the militia out in Nevada. I tell you, the desert and if anybody has air, sand is not your friend. Right, but you want to minimize lubricant in general where they are out there. That's something that's true. I would hang on to that, to be quite honest. If you want to donate it, we need to find... Let's put it this way. You guys have a property issue coming up right there on the border if you've been paying attention. Everybody knows that in Texas or if they don't, they should by now. Not with Mexico, heading the other way up towards what is it, Oklahoma. Now, like I said earlier today, you know what? There's a lot of people who said they couldn't jump in their vehicle and go to Nevada. And as I pointed out, because somebody else immediately started whining, separate from our people, we're trying to stay the second part, we're doomed! It's like, what do you mean? You can't handle a battlefield across the entire United States the way we're expected. It's how it's going to go. So why would we be panicked instead just in reverse? I think if you wait you'll find that you're going to need to be supporting people in your area of operation right there. Haven't you heard it said before? I'm not trying to do this for a particular reason, but yes I am. Every piece of night vision I sell out there helps me to sleep better when I choose to sleep. Why? Because I know that guy is going to keep somebody busy that wants to come here to keep me busy. But you know what? The guy that's here trying to keep me busy? He ain't gonna get to your house. Chip for tap. Exactly. Well, you know the thing is, I got a whole case of, I guess I got about six big cans of chip beef who only donate if anybody likes chip beef in the field. Well, chip beef isn't freeze dried or is it liquid? It's in the can. No, I know, but is it freeze dried in the can or is it liquid in the can, like, you know, like chip beef and gravy? Yeah, okay. Well, that's okay. It's not a problem. I'm just curious because that's a matter of weight. They used to make it. In fact, a freeze dry guy used to have it, Chip Beef and Gravy in freeze dry. It was a submarine ration and oh man, I would just love to find more of that. Anybody who, you know, again, around finds a dealer that's got it, just put that up on the air. A lot of people that I know have been asking about the meats we used to get from Freeze Dry Guy, but he hasn't had the submarine rations in quite some time. The chip beef and the steak and the beef pieces were just phenomenal and he had the best price on the planet. Again, it's up to you, but I'm telling you right now, George, here's how it works. You guys are going to end up with the same scenario mapping out. They're already boasting about that. They're puffing up on the government end. They're going to have to spit in as many different directions as they can. So Texas has got that border issue coming up with another BLM attack. It's thousands of acres they want to steal. But they flat out want to do just like they did before to this guy and several other people. uh... but they've done to him before and no compensation nothing so i can't see why since they've already been to the feeding trough they are going to do it again mark you know i think it's talk about why the government don't want i think the constitution of government not supposed to own too much planet except buildings magazine sports and all that stuff they prepared a colony People were forbidden to go hunt in the King's Forest. Right, exactly. The crown did all this BS. This is a complete replay of why we need to shoot their ass out of here. I have no qualms about saying that because it's a needful thing and there's nothing that's going to fix it. In fact, the eco-freaks know this too. Understand, they have their agenda. They know exactly what they're doing and why they're pushing it too. So it has nothing to do with them worrying about the turtles. It's all part of the Communist slash the Soviet agenda. We just need to remember that and not back off. Not the government. They aren't protecting us on the border. They don't give a squat about the border. This is all a power freak thing. It's what the founding fathers warned everybody about. Why you don't have standing armies. Why you don't have a national police force. The very thing, times haven't changed. All these stinking tyrants have always done the same BS over and over again. Congratulations, it's our turn to clean the house out. Well, you know, I'm not going to mention a radio host, but he just, he said his infowar was the thing that stood down to BLM. Yeah, right. Only one person. Have you ever heard any of us say something like that? Only I did it! Only... This effort has always been a we with the Patriot Movement. That's what gets me about this. That tells you something about the characters that you're dealing with. Well, you have to ask some basic questions about what's in their mind. Bottom line. You really, really have to ask what's in their mind. The interesting thing about it is that not for the combined arms team and the people who got there who were ready to fight. Everybody is grudgingly having to admit it in some cases, but others It's like several of the gentlemen who were very outspoken said, you know, the bottom line is some of these women here walk, we don't want their guns, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like really? Well, if it weren't for the guns, a lot of you would either be widows or you'd all be dead today or you'd all have your sari hind end locked up. Or your ancestors would have been dead and your parents wouldn't even have been here. Yeah, exactly. Well, I heard one article that came out, I haven't read it, but the title was Ranchers put women out in front of human shields between the BLM. I'm like, what? Well, that nonsense, first of all, although again, I'm going to tell you something here. I've always been confused about this because you see here, how old are you, Don? My next birthday will be 60. Okay, I'm 56, going on 57, right? We were here during the bra burning days. Does everybody remember the bra burning days? Remember the 70s with the female power and we all have to have equity or whatever? So my question is, pick a direction. Because the skanks on the other side, especially these hyper liberals, would tell you that we're all just meat with feet to be eaten at their discretion. You know, the goyim that are nothing but animals without a soul. So, what are they playing here? Which direction do they want to go? Are the women are equals wearing slacks and wearing pants like men do now and are getting right there in the fight? And if they are, you know, they get right there and everybody's face, are they doing that on their own? Are they doing that because they're motivated? Are they doing it because they feel that, you know, because of the mother instinct thing that maybe the slob on the other side will correct his direction? Now, as far as the idea of the women being there, in order that they would be on the front line, here's something to remember. Now, one of these characters has done protests with regard to anybody out there in the liberal faction to include the, I'm not going to ride in the back of the bus thing. Why is it that it wasn't a man that said, I'm not going to ride in the back of the bus down there in Alabama? Why wasn't it a black man? The whole thing was planned. You only drew lots to see who was going to be the person who was going to sit in the back of the bus and say, I'm a black person, I ain't going to jive, I'm going to sit in the back of the bus. Where were they when they drew those slums? Yeah, but you know what they didn't allow in the lottery? There weren't any men. They picked a woman for a reason. Think about it. That was not an accident. It wasn't spontaneous. It was planned. You see? Again, it is true. Bottom line is, here's the thing in this day and age, you see this is why I want some direction on this. Which is it? Are these the women of the 50s who were the nurturers and the mothers and stayed at home? Are these the MALI riveters who, again, so we're supposed to expect equity and something happens? Well, yeah, you could put a view of hurting many of my people, but you're selling out the women anyway. If the women jump up front or the women decide that they want to do that, or the women, again, it's come up with as a plan. Who is to attack that and how can you ridicule this day and age? How can you have a brain in the A? You've got to pick a direction first of all. Throw me a line on this one. Like I said, I was around for the bra burners. Most of them put their bras back on guys. You know what I mean? It just happened. But there was a time when everybody could find extra pairs of ear cup warmers laying all over the place. You could pick one up any time you wanted so you'd have something for the winter time to keep your ears warm left and right. And a convenient elasticized strap that you could tie around your chin. That's the fascinating thing about when I saw this, like, well, who are you, what's the debate here? The waiting communist queers on the other side, the lesbians on the other side, what would they be pissing about about? So the women were going to be up front. Your point? Well, well, well, well, but you say, okay, wait a minute, if from your perspective, then everybody's equal anyway. By the way, I can't tell you helicopter pilots. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, helicopter pilots that can lift 22 men and hold a machine gun and then, you know, charge out of it. No, none of them can do that. But, you know, you see that that's just it. What gets me about this? Who, this is like everything else we've seen. They're trying every bizarre angle to twist this, to turn the pot because they just got their ass kicked. Let's be honest, and this gets into a discussion we had with Larry there, but every time we've come up on this on the air, I've been looking at stuff all day. I get a while, I have to walk away. Because it's like, how could you be so stinky? One way or another, desperately trying to turn this so that it's a lose! No, you're one in that particular part of the bout. It's like anything else, guys. You spar. You move back and forth. But you know what? There's that time, and Don, you know what I'm talking about? Everybody out there, if you've had to fight, you have a combination. Man, if I can just get this just right, I'm going to bop bop him. It won't be the end of the fight, but it will be one of those things where it's going to ring his gourd. You know what I mean? And for a change, guess what? Nobody knows how to handle the idea that our footing was correct, that the body language was right, that we misguided them the way they needed to be, that they got arrogant and we bop bop and bop and bop bop and bop bop and bop bop. Here's one for the nose two right up under the chin. They are standing there dizzy and bleeding and stepping back and stumbling over each other and we can't handle it. Well we can, I can because I understand congratulations, great victory and tactical victory for the moment on the battlefield. Love it. I just see this as one battle in a long drawn out war. Individually as a warrior for everybody out there listening, let me explain it to you this way. Here's how it works. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, we take the position, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, You're searching the corpses for ammunition while you're watching the treeline. You're looking for anything in the way of grenades or ordnance that they didn't use. Oh look, one of them left a belt-fed gun behind and there's still some ammo. You swing that around and you put it in a position and you watch that treeline. You wanna know why? Because they're away from 30 seconds to 30 minutes they're coming back. Why? Because they're reorganizing. If you can't figure out that, you're a dumbass and you're gonna get me killed. In other words, you're not standing there scratching your arse. You're not making coy comments. The first thing you're doing is checking your combat gear. How many mags do I have left? Where are the mags that are unloaded? Where can I find more of whatever? Hell's dead. Hell had the same gun I had. Take all the mags off Hell. Stack them on the sandbag right there next to that belt-fed gun I just acquired. Anybody see any tank weapons? Go through there real quick. Watch for any survivors. Shoot anybody that moves. Okay, let's go, go, go, go, go. And immediately the first person squared away is already just in position taking up and controlling. Prepare for defensive position. You are going to be counter-attacked because it's not the end of the dance. If you're lucky, you have secured the position. Now, you continue to improve it and you continue to prepare for reinforcement or support and to be given the order to proceed with the operation. If you can interpret or feel that you needed to follow through from the get-go, you may engage the aggressor while he's trying to escape to follow up to ensure that he doesn't counter-attack, even as he's trying to get away. Now beware because sometimes somebody will lead you into a place that's another prepared kill zone as part of a defense in depth and while you may have initially taken that first line position, the second, third, fourth, fifth lines are established so that that position could be sacrificed. Another reason that initially you stop, you observe the position, you confirm your control, you identify your casualties and your functional personnel. If they're still breathing, they prop a gun up even when they're being treated because whatever happens, if the bad guys come back, you're all dead. You are the first thing you do. Let me give an example for everybody always, oh I love movies, I love books. Black clock down there's one scene that is the most important all the rest is in the movie is I mean watch I really watch the movie guys I won't I saw another fluid go, that was nothing like the book but it's all puffing up the Ra-Ra routine. The book wasn't designed to do that. It was just to demonstrate failures and failures because of failure to prepare. We won't take the night vision because we'll be back half an hour. Exactly. The one guy who's at the very end, they're all exhausted. They've all been, remember they do that last run to get in behind the secure line, right? It's like they said it was like a death march. It was like literally that you know when you when you qualify for SF or you qualify for the seals you know you've got that death march guys where you do that 80 pound pack and you are just quick you're just Stretched like a Gumby boy by the time you're done your muscles. Just don't want to work after a while But that was the case and they did that and they got in there. But what's the first thing the one man does? He walks right over like you said Donnie goes over to his footlock, his wall locker, and he pulls out the night vision devices that he thought to leave behind and he puts them in his combat rig. And the next thing he's doing is he's going right over to the prep tables. He's loading every magazine he's got. He's replacing magazines that are missing. He replaced all of his grenades. He replaced all of his illumination and smoke. First, Not before he didn't eat. He didn't drink. The first thing that he did is he went right over and he combat loaded himself back up. Why? Because you don't know if in the next 15 seconds, no matter how tired ass you are, you're going to be the next one on the front line again. Now that's the attitude you all have to have with what we're dealing with every step of the way. Now we still take and we give a cheer for our victory. Hoorah! Okay? 3 chairs as a matter of fact, which like I said, that would have been fantastic. Give a hooah! Now 3 chairs and that hooah! HOOAH! That would have been kick butt. Kind of like the 300 guys, you know? Think about it. HOOAH! That would be fun. But again, they did what they could and they did right. They did it in their own style and everybody got accomplished what they needed to accomplish but it wasn't one man that did it. It wasn't even one little group of people that did it. It was a consortium. It was all of you working together in the last few weeks and progressively answering over or asking questions because of lack of proper intelligence or people trying to pass on faulty information. Again, correcting it as we go. What we have, we can offer, but we'll give it a rating. Remember that the most important thing with intelligence operations, the reliability factor is based upon source. And we'll put a question mark next to it if that source has not been consistent. Mark, after his standoff, have you seen guns still start to go up again? They already were while it was going on. That's what Darrell was talking about earlier with what happened at the gun show and everybody was saying the same thing. They're buying the ammunition either because, A, they plan on taking it out to Nevada or because of what's going on in Nevada. And that's happening everywhere. The other thing is other factors, ammunition shortages or garbage stealing, start to develop in certain categories simply because they've already declared that they're not going to allow for replacement, guys. So other ammunition and other weapons systems that you may already have on the shelf, this is why I'm talking about all those odd companies, you know what, buy all you can until it's not there. But remember, the odd man out stuff may still be available for a bit. And if you have that other weapon, and the K98 is not an odd man out. The K98 is out there by the tens of millions. Man, we carried those back in World War I, back from the war. I don't know how many were carried back. I know World War I vets that had trunk loads of them, guys. I've seen this myself. Let's just say that a lot of those were protected and put where they needed to be. Gewehr 98s and K98s. World War II, same thing. Korea, same thing. There were tons of K98s that the Chinese gave the Koreans during the Korean War, guys. All that stuff is 8 millimeter. That's why 8 millimeter mouths are if you see it, you've got a gun in that, buy it, you need more. Anyway, Don, your number for night vision, you're gonna be available in a minute, please. Hey, that number is 23179684. Very good. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Loo-rah! Call Don Betcher. Unit Night Vision. This is the man to deal with a friend rather than a stranger. Thank you, Don. Give your number out and close us, please. The number is 2317968458. Again, 2317968458. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless you, Murr. The Oven Dot Com Backslash Liberty Tree. That's www.sonoven.com backslash liberty tree. One more time that's www.sonoven.com backslash liberty tree. Up in the stock market down and you only get mugged if you go to the kids and the dogs and I got a shotgun a rifle and a wheel drive and a country boy can survive I can catch catfish from dusk till dawn On whiskey and many things these old boys change your boy can survive To be a business man in some homie's eyes shooting with my old boy The country boy can survive. To those listening on PBS TT, Patriot broadcast from the trenches, 89.5 micro FM Chilliquan, the state of Jefferson. A special salute to our brothers and sisters on From the Trenches World