April 7, 2014
Evening Show
1h 8m
Complete
Radio Episode
2014
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Mark Koernke hosted an evening broadcast on April 7, 2014, discussing preparedness, militia organization, and firearms. The show featured extended segments on night vision equipment procurement through bulk purchasing with caller Don, detailed discussions about ammunition reloading and primer availability at Cabela's, and tactical advice for a caller preparing for a running gun competition. Koernke also addressed the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappearance with conspiracy theories, promoted military surplus gear and preparedness products, and fielded caller questions about ammunition compatibility and revolver maintenance.
- night vision
- m14
- 1911
- ammunition reloading
- primers
- cabela's
- cci primers
- load bearing gear
- molle
- preparedness
- militia
- firearms
- malaysia airlines flight 370
- ar-15
- ak
- gun sights
- picatinny rail
- weaver rail
- uncle sam's retail outlet
- acu gear
- pistol magazines
- m16
- tactical training
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If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the drape? home this week. libertytreeradio.4mg.com indianafreedomtalkradio.com and we are on live 365 then go to libertytree radio we're on AM and FM micro stations CB big stations and ultra net technology west of the mississippi along with Alaska we're on the homework network from the top of Maine good evening to Bangor, Maine, as a matter of fact, all the way to the bottom of Florida, across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both 3rd and 5th pit and our friends in the recall state of Colorado, along with the nine sisters on the left side of Wyoming, waiting in the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson doing its part to shed light and liberty upon the landscape. And then there's the excrement, the dispute, the detritus, the debris, the stench of Feinsteinism, the other wretched filth that's out there. Well, I'll tell you what. There's also the diaper stain of brown and that's disgusting enough as it is. Just think about the description. Anyway, turning back to East, we sweep across the plain. There's a leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and land in the Smoky slash the Blue Ridge. Where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium are retired telecommunications workers, bringing us the Golden Spike. I think we have Don with us now. Yes, we do. Don, what is the day today, sir? What's jumping off the wall? It's raining down here. Well, it is the 7th day of April, year of our Lord 2014, and it'll probably rain here if the sky continues to look like it's looking. But, you know, hey, it's not going to melt much more of the snowpack because the snowpack's almost gone. Again, 7, and it's a Monday. You made it this far and that's pretty good because you beat a couple of statistics already. More heart attacks happen in America on Monday mornings than any other morning throughout the week or any other afternoon. I've got to get to work! I've got to get to work! Only exceeded in that time frame by the four or five hours of the Super Bowl. These are statistical facts. Ask your doctor. At any rate, so we made it this far, that's good. That means you're still in the fight, right? Hooray. Now with that in mind, Before we go any farther, how about that support the micro effect? How about that support Liberty Tree Radio? We'll beat that drum for a minute because it has to be done every now and then. And I'm pretty certain that the micro effect in the morning could use another shot in the arm or another computer or something and one might very well say the same thing about Liberty Tree Radio. We fly that flag from the flagship, the big long line of flags that spell things out and there's that signal. But there's a couple other things. I don't know if they have pulled up wreckage at Mark, but they're tested. Oh, golly gee, good. They think they might have found a ping. The Chinese say they found a pinger and somebody else says they found a pinger or someplace else. It takes time to kill all those people and chop the transponder up and throw it in the bottom of the water. I guess. You know what I mean? After all, you gotta execute people, feed them to the sharks, don't worry about moving bodies. Why? I mean, either they didn't exist at all or, you know, execute them, chop them up, keep the ones that they want to torture for whatever intelligence information or industrial espionage you're involved in as far as the shysters stealing from the people around board. And then as far as the plane parts go, hell, as is always the case, why could you possibly let a couple hundred million dollars worth of spare parts go to waste? So those are probably in other directions. Hell, that plane's probably just like a good chop shop in the inner city, guys. That car may hit the door at 10 o'clock, but by 10.35 ain't nothing but the bones. It rolls on the door in so many other cars. That's right. And by that point also, the mainframe, that's already been ground, crushed, chopped, chunked. It's in pieces of 55 gallon barrels heading for the scrapyard. You know, about the size of your fist. Chop, chop, chop, chop, chop. Just with a grinding wheel. If nothing else, meow, meow, meow. They just take her down from the right. The unibody especially is so easy, it's ridiculous. So anyway, that's what happened to that poor 4777 and everybody onboard either it was all BS to begin with or they got through with all the goodies they needed to. They really don't need the transponder. And they don't need the flight log. I mean, come on, that just gets bloop. Actually, what would you do? You know, can you imagine? Okay, I put it over against the wall, shoot the snot out of it, make it look like wreckage. What do you mean? I just want you to cut that area out of the hole there. We're going to save everything else to this point. Just blow it up a little bit. Bust it up. Throw some, you know, an explosive charge, whatever you want. Then dump it. I mean, come on, think about it. We followed the park! What did you find? We followed the ping! Oh, that really important ping. And how long after the fact? First of all, they didn't lose track of that plane. That plane was carried away for whatever reason, either again or it never existed and it was designed to distract. But either way, I have no confidence in whatever they're claiming now, Don. None whatsoever. It's a farce at best. It's like, boy, those poor souls are on board. No wonder they don't want anybody to carry weapons or anything on a plane anymore, Don. If a government wants to steal your 777 and execute anybody on board, the last thing you want are people who can resist in any way. It sounds like a ship already pirated. Yeah, poor bastards. It's like, oh well. Yeah, God knows what they did with them before they killed them, too. Another reason why you don't fly. As far as I can see, it's don't fly. The whole probability of the more sycophant, the crazier, the more we get into the Stalinist America, the more in the Stalinist global agenda BS, the worse it's going to get. Bad enough to just come to your door anyway. I mean, come on, that's what they've been pushing. But hell, you put yourself in an aluminum level four prison tube? all you are just waiting to be harvested. That's all that is, is like a big, like, Orwell harvest hole, so to speak, or a suddenly green harvest hole. You just don't know who they're feeding those people to in sausage meat right now. Oops, did I say that? Well, that's not nice. Yeah, but that's more realistic than anything else. The new long pig, quite tasty in the South Pacific, in fact, very popular. Popular by wide demand. from one ion complex to the next. of oxygen. We have been working on a project here, in fact through the Intel report with you. You have night vision technology available. Several of you already know what we're going to be talking about. How could you already take advantage of this? Don, we've got a project in motion. Explain to everybody what transpired, how you got into the project, and where we are so far, and how people can join. Well, you know, most of the time you guys, it's, uh, you call me up and order a piece and I get the piece at individual price and turn it around to you at a good price. On occasion, we've offered bulk, you know, hey, I got a whole bunch of these or hey, let's gang up on me and we'll get a whole bunch of them. You remember, if you've been listening for a while, I was talking with my guy the other day, the end of last week, and he says, you haven't made any bulk purchases in a while, any big numbers. And I says, I know I haven't had the money. And I, Last thing I did was run a special on viewers and he says well we've been talking about the green screens and the green screens are gone by numbers not by December 31st when the stock runs out it runs out, but there is another approach I need to take to that person in order to perhaps We'll see what we can do in that arena while while I was talking with him. He says well if you can move ten of the gun sites that I've been selling, mostly that entry level gun site you guys, the 308 capable, 2.5 power, it'll thumbscrew onto your Weaver or your Picatinny rail, your 7.8s or your 1 inch rail. Purpose built gun site to the extent that the manufacturer will warranty it against, it's not going to fail from recoil for two years, they warranty it for two years. Now, it came to my attention that if I buy 10 of them at once, my price is lowered by $25. So I turn that right around to you and go from 400 right at your door to 375 right at your door. And again, bulk purchasing is, you know, minimum of rather an order of 10. I get another cut like $8 or $9. It's not as big a cut when I go to 20. But I don't want to keep the guys who are waiting on that 10 purchase, you know, waiting around. Now, again, you guys are at 6 now. Three more and we can move this right through and Everybody will get a gun sight cheaper than what you're going to pick it up for. Most of the big popular guys that are selling salesmen for my source, well basically they travel under their own name, but mostly what they offer is the same things that I offer from the same source. So I'm offering you that gun sight $4 cheaper than him. You won't have to spend any gas, you won't have to pay the admission to the gun show, you won't have to spend that other $4. and we'll bring it right to your door. If you want to talk to me about that device or others, there's goggles and gun sights, green screens and thermal. Talk about a second generation gun sight that is .308 capable. And I'll put that right in your mailbox for $1,300 flat, like $40 or $50. I'd have to go back to my numbers, but I think that's $40 or $50 cheaper than last year. My phone number is 231988. more time for that phone number. 796458. And again, generation gun sight, write your mailbox for 375 bucks. As soon as we can get four more people to stand in that 10 block line, well that 10 block purchase. Thank you Mark. Very good. And again guys, for everybody out there, this is a solution for everybody that has been looking for, you know, hopefully a better buy, but also for quantity. Some of you out there, if you're looking at organizing, Teams, units, if you were looking at buying or thinking about buying more than one, this is an opportunity. You're going to be saving that much more money. That many more batteries. It's that much more in the way of ammunition. It's that many more magazines. By saving money in one direction, we can afford to spend more in others. $25 will buy you the mount for an AK. Actually, $22 will buy you the mount for the AK guys, so you save the money to buy that and have a few dollars left over for part of another box of ammo. How do you like that? For an AK with a side rail mount. That's a pretty good package. That's all ready to go. That's ready to plug and play. And again, Don has taken the time to come up with a solution rather than just constantly complaining about the problem. We're not complaining about the problems. We're trying to figure out how best to organize armed equipment trained militia and to include a 510 program which is a deep logistics system. That includes the 510 program is being able to outfit a five man fire team or a 10 man squad top to bottom, ideally to arm them also. In many cases, there are people right now who are trying to go step by step just focusing on the fire team. If they've got all the gear, they're focusing on the weapons. Once they've got the weapons up, then they're looking at the support systems for the weapons. Well, if you're looking at building a 510 program for future support, and you have the wherewithal, then five of these night vision devices for whatever weapon systems you've chosen, again, typically the air The AK, the SKS, the FN FAL, HK91 slash the PTR91s are out there and people have picked up a RACA5. Well, this night vision device will sit right on top of that. The cool thing if you have the AK or the AR is that it's the most user friendly for quick on, quick off. That's one of the reasons I really like the rigidity and the structure of the AK side rail mount. It is a fixture that is very rigid. The mounts are a little more extensive in terms of how they're built, but one thing to remember, typically there's two versions. One is milled aluminum, the others are forged fixtures where they've stopped them and then done the finished milling on them. Either way, there's China Sport available so you can save money there. There's a number of different Picatinny rail options to include extra rails, etc. and they cost no more from one to the next, really. Maybe a $2 or $3 difference. Well, quick on with Don's night vision device, first gen, quick off and then back to a daylight scope or to a long range scope as needed. And as you know, I prefer hitting them at maximum range, so an intermediate fixed range slash fixed perspective scope is typically the best choice. But sky's the limit, whatever you want to spend money on. Variable power scopes are readily available and reasonably priced. So this allows you to actually save money in one area to buy more optics, to buy your daylight optics in addition to your nighttime optic. So, that's another solution. Anyway, the idea is do the math however you want to. The idea here is you're saving resource. Don's making it happen. We need everybody to chip in the Ken on this. Again, take advantage of this. Don's doing his part. You guys can all decide if you're going to make your choice. Make it with Don Betcher. That's your first best choice. Deal with a friend rather than strangers. You're going to know who you are. When you purchase it and you're done, you're not walking away from the gun show and you don't have a clue who the hell those people were. Every day, Dom's here. Dom's been here for decades. And he's going to continue to be here and keep up the fight for as long as we can. So I'd say that's pretty focused. And if you've got a question, come on up. If you have any questions right now. In fact, we had several people who brought up other things and you had to go, Dom. For everybody out there, any questions about night vision, I don't care what day it is. any day is a good day when Don is here. Just something to keep track of and remember that we are doing our part but you guys need to pitch in and do yours on occasion too and that includes building up a greater strength in fighting force and that is what we are trying to do. Other solutions by the way, I was mentioning weapons systems. Well sorry I did a quick survey. Some things are like fascinating. There is no discussion but guys As far as uppers, it's complete for the lower end to mid-range price. Mid-range, you start to run into them again. But the low end, reasonably priced, standard grade, fill in the blank AR15, I don't care if it's a 16.5 or a 20 inch, they're just simply not out there. The price is adjusted or ratcheted up. and it's pretty well where we're seeing it sit. Now it doesn't mean there aren't whole rifles. There are actually some pretty good buys on whole rifles right now, Hither & Yann. How long they last, it varies. A lot of people have already picked up and snagged the ones that were there. And there's a regular drum beat in terms of procurement that has not really slowed down. Yeah, but the scale mark, if I want to go to Walmart here in the country where they'll sell me a M16 pattern type gun in the AR-15 variety of 22-caliber. I'm going to pay for that. What I used to pay for a .223 M16 pattern type of the AR variety from like Olympia. You're paying that for a .223 now. I hate to remind everybody about it, but you know, man oh man. and especially when you take into consideration guys well again the it speaks for itself don't give your number a couple more times please before we go any farther cuz i wanna make sure it got reinforced of the with the archive too well if you want to get in on that deal that ten block purchase the rather uh... unit per per by twenty five dollars on that first generation gunfight give me a call my number two three one seven nine six five eight That will live on top of your AR-10, on top of your M1. My number is 231-796-8458. Thank you Mark. Very good. And again, for all of our friends out there, if you have any other questions about night vision technology, give down a call either at home or you can call him here during the program. And if you'd like to give us a ring, you can call in at 712-4320-900. Then the room code is 957-464-pound sign. Again, that's 712-432-0900. That's 712-432-0900. And the room number is 957-464-pound sign. So take the time and plug in and again say hi if you want to or if you've got any questions for Don here on the air go ahead and do that. Again this was something where you were in contact and conversation with the people who run the business at the other end who make the product and they just kind of you know tugged on your shirt sleeve there and said hey by the way which means everybody works out it works out well for everyone guys. It's one of those if you can do this I can do this. And because they did that, I can do this and if you can do this, I can offer it. I'm not trying to double talk you at all, but you know exactly, you heard the situation. If we buy at 10 unit blocks, a $5 reduction per unit. And I'm turning that right around to you, hooray. My number is 2317968458. As a matter of fact, you're, again, sounds like you might have a call. Before we go any farther, don't want to step on anybody's toes. Do we have a caller? star six to unmute yourself if you want to come up star six to unmute yourself if you want to come up alright and one and a two now I want to bring this up also Cabela's as a matter of fact we were asking Don to put a call out for primers and I will remind everybody we're interested in finding primers wherever they're sitting right now We're looking at buying out companies and there's a bunch of people that plan on doing it. I promise we can take advantage of this. I'm going to pass the information on to them and their job is going to be to sweep in and clean them out. So one of those is Cabela's dot com. Cabela's dot com. They have CCI primers at Cabela's. What do we have available here? We better check and see what they are. and let's see CCI 200 large rifle primers 1000 primers sale price is regular price 39 to 64 okay I don't know how they're doing the math on this 5199 for 1000 of the CCI primers large rifle standard I don't see anything jumping off the wall that makes me go ooh or aah, but CCI will work just fine for reloading guys. In fact, CCI is one of the several different bulk jobbers for the primers used in the industry, so shouldn't be a problem. In fact, federal does a lot of CCI by the way, too, or at least they used to. It's almost the only primer shot at the 50 caliber championships or at the other 50 caliber shoots around the country. When you look at parts lists and gun lists. You look at who wins and you look at who loses and it's to the point that almost everybody there is using CCI unless they come into short supply. And then they're looking at the Lapua button man. Okay, I see what they're doing here now on this Don. It's a description model 400 primers, 1000 per tray, well obviously per pack. small rifle $32.1000 $4.50, $1,000 count, small rifle Magnum primers $32.00 per thousand. This is Cabela's by the way. This is Cabela's.com. C-A-B-E-L-A-S, Cabela's.com, the chain. So go through, they've got large rifle small rifle BR benchrest $1,452 large rifle limited stock it looks like they still have them though back orderable on some of these. Oh, I think we go down the list because there are several that are listed that they do have they show large pistol Magnum primers not back orderable those are not in stock Let's see what they have small pistol. They do show small pistol in stock $32 a thousand Small pistol, oh no pistol magnum and standard pistol both are 32 large rifle benchrest Very limited quantity. They're saying they're down to their last and that's $52 for the large rifle benchrest configuration Just to accurate guys, supposed to be more consistent Well, I'll tell you what if it was a choice considering the price between the two standard rifle, which way would you go? Let's see. I think I'd go the benchrest just for the fun of an experiment see what it does. Limited stock, when they're out of those don't worry you can go to something else. Anyway they also show maybe flinch chest or primers available also large pistol and they may have Remington primers in stock so check them out and see what they have available. That's Cabela's and wherever we find them best price for the most is what we're looking at trying to do guys. That will be your best choice there. And Don, again, with regard to .50 cal shooting at the matches, CCI being the dominant, anybody at the range there, there were people that were actually loading on range on site, weren't there? I mean, there were people that actually... Oh yeah, or back in the hotel rooms, motel rooms throughout the evening. Yeah, yeah, right there. Spend a day shooting in the evening reloading. A lot of people should understand the reason for that is that guys you just fire formed a whole bunch of brass It's already match brass, right, or most of it is. It's already precision brass. You just fired it in the rifle. You know beyond a shadow of a doubt it's tuned to that gun. That's one of the reasons that, you know, like that evening you're already de-priming and you're reconfiguring new rounds. You're, I should say, you're loading new rounds right there on the spot if at all possible. I know guys that have had, and when we were in pistol competition, A couple of guys brought their own military vans, now guys that's a deuce and a half, with an armorers box on the rear and they would walk in with a pile of brass and while they were shooting, while their team was shooting, they would be reloading new match brass, new match loads right there on the spot and replenishing. In other words, they were never sitting on their laurels, they were never sitting on their hands, just laid back picking their nose. When they were there, it was a mission. And it's fascinating to watch the difference in, you know, again, the attitude. A lot of these guys ended up being in the Presidents 100 for that reason. because they took their shooting very very seriously and they built what they needed to accordingly. All the spec, what they built right there on the spot. And again when they were done they rolled everything up, stuck everything into their arms cases, put it in the back of their big deuce and a half and drove on to the next site or parked the vehicle back where they came from until the next weekend or the next week depending on where the range and where the GO-COM or where the national matches were for that particular weekend. So, again, there's a number of different ways to do it. Personally, I would if I were into a heavy 50 shooting, build a van just for that purpose. That's all we do. The license plate said war wagon. Yeah. It did. Yeah, that's the way to do it. There's enough stuff laying around out there that if you're just patient, you can build off an awful nice bench and with everything on board so that as needed it supports even light tooling or, you know, again machine support if there's something that just may go wrong. Spare parts, spare equipment, spare components, everything you need sitting right there. The other cool thing is when you get home it doesn't get in the way either. I got to ride in that van. That van really did exist. Skip-Tow but the big long Ford van, four wheel drive, the license plate said War Wagon. If you don't remember the War Wagon guys from the movie, remember that was John Wayne? Yeah, the War Wagon. It's armored, it's an armored coach. Big armor coach. Well, I'll tell you what, I heard another ding. Do we have a call before we go any farther? and one gun to uh... hate to leave anybody out go ahead caller we got someone oh yes uh... this is a text back from the red text back I just I just called in so I'm with the subject but uh... what I wanted to ask was uh... I'm doing a uh... a uh... what do you call it running gun at the end of the month and I'm going to use uh... regular load bearing gear and the idea is to carry a rifle and a pistol and all your rounds eight stations and that's a four mile hike My question is, I'm going to use an M14 and I'm going to use a 45, 1911. There's 77 rifle shots and 57. Now, I've got all my rifle rounds. I've got the old style, Vietnam style with the two M14 magazine types, but I'm trying to figure out how I've got like nine 5 mags and what's the best way for me to carry those and get to them easily? Well, are you using a standard load bearing set? Yes, standard. Yes. Is it a regular Type 56 or a TA90? A newer nylon TA90 with Y-Straps or are they suspended? Yeah, I got the Y-Strap. The Y-Strap, yeah. Okay, so you're using the newer TA90 gear. Now, the option is that there are a number of different, well, modern, attachable mag pouches you've got till the end of the month. your best bet is still probably to go just regular m14 mag pouches unless you want to experiment and this is not a bad way to go let's see you've got only need 77 rounds right in 308? I've got that covered I've got four m14 mag pouches so you know I'm only going to carry five mags which is a hundred rounds I feel confident I can probably hit 77 targets with a hundred rounds at 300. Some targets are out there at 300. Well now the other option with the pistol is just if you're looking for, you know, without any other conflict is running with an extender, the MOLLE type extender on the left leg for the mags. That's one option. That'll keep it out of the way but you know put it where your hand drops naturally. That's one thing I do like about the extenders. The only thing is I wouldn't necessarily use that kit all the time. But for what you're doing, you're going to be traveling with it. If you're going to use, all your ammo is going to have to be ready for your mags and ammo is going to have to be ready for dealing with the pistol issue. So it's a matter of it being accessible or comfortable for you. And the other consideration, you're doing a four mile? Yeah, it's a four mile run. Walk or run. Walk or run, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And when you get to the end of it, then you're going into combat mode. Stations along the way. Oh, okay. Oh, that's easier. So you're gonna be lightening your load as you go anyway, not by much, but by some. Well, but I would go, I would do, yeah, you know, I'll tell you what, just for convenience, I'll tell you where you can go to get the cheapest one right now. And I'll tell you what, if I hate to do this, let's see if I can do this right. Oh, come on here, Mark. Let's see, we go to, let's go over here. Let's go to goblequidation.com real quick. www.gov.surplusauctions.govlequidation.com. From there you go to the link which is unclesam'sretailoutlet.com. Now over in the clearance section, I can tell you right now, let's see if they got it, I'm on it right now, I'll probably beat you to it. I'll even tell you the page and give you the ID number. They have the, yep, here we go, Molly 2 ACU Holster. It's the leg extender, okay? And it has the ability to put the Molly pistol pouches on that, although I try to get the double cell side by side is what I try to do. The only consideration with that is how quick you need to be accessing mags. Are you being timed on this? Yes, there is time in the stations, but the timing is in the time it takes you to travel the course and the time to shoot it. Of course, you're not going to be able to top off mags or nothing, so as soon as you get to a station, if you use three or four rounds in the last station, in the pistol, you're obviously going to have one or two mag changes. I'll tell you what, just to take a look at it and see if it might fit your needs. If you go to Uncle Sam's Retail Outlet, first of all go to goblequidation.com. Go to Uncle Sam's Retail Outlet, click over to that. When you get there on page two of the clearance section, go to clearance on page two, actually it's a pretty good price, they've come down on this thing because they were more expensive last week. Molly to ACU holster leg extender $3.14 okay, and that is the whole sticker I'm looking for something from where he carries my pistol mag so I'm going to use the old no This is the hanger to put the pistol mags on that's my point. Oh, this is this is the hanger that goes from the side of the belt and has the leg strap around it Right okay. It's got it's like about what however many inches long. I think it's like 12 inches long or whatever My point is it's three dollars and fourteen cents. It's a US government issue item. It's got a quick release snap Molly backstrapper so it'll go on your Alice gear on your your regular pistol belt without any problem, okay, and It's brand new in fact it says they're on other use, but they look brand new I mean everyone I've seen so far this one looks brand new the ones in the picture But they have 62 in stock takes one to two days to ship There are $3.14 a piece and it's the Molly to ACU holster. You go to Uncle Sam's RetailOutlet.com. Uncle Sam's RetailOutlet.com. Then in the brown line there's a clearance section. Go to clearance. On page two of the clearance section. Halfway down it says Molly to ACU Holster Leg Extender. Now the only reason it's ACU is because it's gray. It's like the gray green that the strapping is because it doesn't have any camo on it. Not that I can see. I mean I'm looking at trying to look at it right now. No, there's no camo in the thing It's just you know, it's the great tone of the rest of the stuff that the ACU has made out. So it'll match anything It's good enough for what you're doing For $3.14 you can experiment with it and see if you like it short time. You know what I mean? Right. The thing is I imagine the shipping will be probably the same price as the item. But they ship direct. This is Uncle Sam's, you know, misbegotten supply sergeant here. It's the property disposal but it's their retail outlet. And they actually came down on these. They were $7 a piece. Now if I look, I'm going to tell you something here. You're gonna have to take the time to do this go through their sales and go through their clearance and the reason I say that I Know they've got one with both the hanger and the pouches. Oh Okay, and it wasn't it was actually a good price I'm scrolling through and looking right now to see if they've taken maybe sold out of them But they actually were that's why I thought it would be more expensive I figured $78 because they've been going for that and actually what they were here on this first this page Okay, I'm looking at so far you may have to go through and take the time and search. I'm doing it quickly here I'm just scrolling through okay. Okay. I'm going page by page They have a black shoulder holster left-hand eagle industry for $9.79 They've got the Molly ACU pocket set which is $16. They've come down on those $16.87 for the Grenadier's pouch set which has like about 20 pouches Drop Lake Platform. They've got another one sitting there. That's 1687. That's where there's a jump in price. See, that's what I was saying. I was expecting to see them more expensive than the one I found you right off the bat. Anyway, point is that if you go through, and now I'm going to do one more thing, you'll have to shop yourself. But the other one is the sales section. There is clearance and there's sales. Now I don't know how they differentiate the two, but oh well. Anyway, if you go into the sales section, there's sale, and then there's also clearance in that brown line up there. And then there's the regular price stuff. You might want to go through that too because you may find a combo set there, but I'm looking right now. Again, there's a lot of other stuff there. If you're looking to build up an ACU kit or if you're looking to build up top to bottom between all the different jobbers that we've been mentioning. Well, for instance, they've got Hill County, well, that's not a leather holster, it can't be. It looks like a UM-84 holster. It shows an OD green UM-84 for $12. I don't know if you need a holster or not. I wouldn't use the old leather flap. Oh, okay. Well, then you're all set there. Well, then I see that's where the drop system then. I don't know if that's much of an advantage. It's just for me, it'd be just for carrying the mags, especially for what you're doing if you want to carry spare mags. It's not a bad system, but then you're not going to carry the weapon at the bottom of the hangar. No, I don't want to be down that low, no. Yeah, so you've got all kinds of options for the mags that way. See, that's the advantage. I would say what you're going to have to do is you're going to have to do the shopping in Texas. Oh, they've got a bunch of holsters. Oh, they've got every Bianchi, Weckwurth, everybody that made the M12 holster they're selling. Here we go, I found it. Over in the sales section on page 4, okay, they've got the ACU pistolman set. Now for anybody out there, everybody might be interested in this. It comes with four mag pouches. and the Drop Hanger system for $12.59. Which is not bad. That's the whole set and these, oh they only have two in stock and they're brand new so they're almost gone. If you can get there first, one of our other listeners will get there second. You know what I mean? That was a good price. That's the one I was looking for but they're $12.59. These are brand new. It comes with four pistol mag pouches and ACU camouflage. And it comes with a drop-leg fixture that everything attaches to. There you go. I've got one of the old double mags, the old style Vietnam area, the two. It's high on the hip and if you're in a hurry or if you're trying to maintain speed, it's good enough for carrying. I carry a couple of those depending on how I've got my rig set up at the moment. Right now, I carry those to the rear and I carry one in a horizontal. position on the suspenders. On the suspenders. No, you don't want to do that all the time unless you've got an individual keeper inside, but I've got World War I pouches. I've got World War I, 45 pouches, and the oldest ones had a cost, like on the US cartridge belt, they had a snap keeper for each mag. Oh, for each mag, yeah. Those are the old Boit. Yeah, those are Boit pouches from 1918. I used to get those for 10 cents a piece because nobody wanted them. Now everybody wants to charge, you know, $50 an item for those. Yes, because the one I got, when you snap it open, both mags are exposed. Now, this is still a good, I mean if you want to put ACU together guys for everybody listening, but whoever gets to these, there's only two of these left. So if you're going to get one, I'd buy one tonight probably for $12.59. Go to unclesamsretailoutlet.com. Go to the sale section just what it says. There's a brown line. It says home, new arrivals, shop by brand, then it says sale, then there's testimonials, blog, and then clearance. My two favorites are sales and clearance. The unit price, it's in the sales section. I will repeat this again. It's on page four. It's the third item down in the scroll so you'll see it almost as quick as you go to the page and it's called the ACU Pistolman set. And where they're selling it out of is, I'll tell you right here, Columbus, Ohio. So it's the depot in Columbus. They're brand new, each set is new. They usually ship in one to two business days. It's Monday, well, tonight, Monday or tomorrow, they probably ship tomorrow if you got it in tonight. But 1259 is a good price for that. That's four mag pouches and the hanger. Yeah, I could probably put I could probably double up the single stack mags in probably one of those pouches. I would think so. They're probably made for the you know, they're made for the Beretta Model 92. So you know bulky mag and experiment. But the very least even if it's just one mag per pouch, it's the idea that makes them easy to snag, you know to pull. So I was thinking about putting them in my butt pack. in the butt pack but it's going to be kind of hard to reach back there. No, no, you want to know that's too far back for what you're doing with the pistol. If you had time, there's a couple other tricks you can take and sew a hanger set to your suspender on your left or right side, depending on what you got. You also got, remember, you've got that hanger keeper, you know, you've got the clip points in the front of the suspenders. You can put a single mag pouch there if you want to in place of a radio pouch. Another place to put a 45, you're not going to carry a radio, right? No. So that's another spot. Think about these upper stations on your gear. They're convenient enough you can still reach them, but another place to put them on eggs. You're talking about that little metal hoop on the suspender, right? Well, you've got the metal hoop and you've got the cloth strap, you know, cross point, you know, like it's a keeper point, but it's designed for strapping and for guiding certain straps with a lot of the adapter kits that were for the back of that web gear. They came up through the front, they slide in and they keep the snap in place and then they hook to that buckler that's on the top, the metal ring you were talking about. Take a look at your suspenders. You'll see what I'm talking about. Either one of those or another location where at least it's convenient. Remember, duct tape is your friend. Or electrical tape, take your pick. I think that's the snap where there's a tie that goes from the top of the magazine pouch to It keeps it from flopping around. Right, it was a hanger. You've got hanger out there. You like on your M16 mag pouches. A lot of guys cut those off, but again, typically they're still attached. On the M14 they're the same way. Remember? They've got a bit of an automatic side bevel to the hook so that they conveniently hang, but they don't snag on everything. That's how they were built intentionally. They didn't get crushed in the mail, but they were built that way. It's just the way they are. This is a solution actually. It's a good thing you brought these up because there's only two left. Whoever gets them first gets them, but this is not a bad package for $13. $12.59. I don't know what the shipping will be like I said. A couple dollars, three, four dollars, whatever. That would give me eight mags ready to go. They're going to allow us to carry a mag in our pistol. No mags in the Miracles as we go from station to station. Yeah, you know what's funny? I just mentioned those, you know, for instance, ACU right now is a drug on the market. They've got the Grenadier's pouch set on the sale side for $14 for something like, in fact, they're used, but let's see, 10, 4, and 2. So you get like 16 pouches for $14. Now that won't work with your pistol, but I'm just giving you an example. If you go through and peruse all these sales and close outs, here's the other thing. Take a look at the tools while you're there. They've got some proto sockets brand new in the sales section, right? The very first thing you see. And I'll tell you what, if you're going through there and buying stuff, I'd pick up one of those sockets, or $1.12 for a proto professional half inch drive. 516th brand new in the wrapper they got a pile of them in one place I don't know why 448 of them and they're located Oklahoma City Oklahoma but there again I might buy three or four of them if you do anything big if you're doing working on big stuff 516th is pretty common in heavy wrenching you know it's just something like that I'm just noticing you're you're need web gear you need to deal with this right away so go ahead oh yeah yeah no no no that that sounds like a good idea because like I said you know I'm I had the standard blaster and one canteen and stuff and just go like that. I had a question change up a little bit. I found, I was looking at some bullets, full metal jacket bullets and 9mm or 380. The guys said they were for 380 and I think they're like, I haven't I'm pretty sure they're like 95 or 90 grains. I was wondering, is that too light to shoot out of the 9? Can I reload with those and shoot them out of my 9 or is that too light? You want to bring back your... Remember what's going to happen. You're going to bring up your pressures, not because of the weight of the bullet, because it's heavy, but just reverse because it's light and it's going to be hot. It's going to be hot. It's going to be a zip gun going down range. You can load up that .380 bullet in a 9. It's also going to be a little short. Typically, the member is going to be shorter, it's going to be a little bulbous. I notice they're real like a pill there. Right, they're typically, again, it's a member, it's 9mm Kurtz. So the bullet itself is a lighter weight. There are some specs for loading 9mm up with those, but if you can, I'd still stick with a 100, 110, 115 grain in the 9. If you can. You can use the 380 Auto but I wouldn't be using it for anything like if you're going to be competing or anything. You can make up basically what is a lower velocity or even a subsonic load that works quite nicely with those. You drop the powder charge back, you find because the pellet's lighter, You need to say typically go the other way if you're going to go slower you go heavier bullet and the weight compensates for lack of velocity But if you want something's going to stay tack driver on target it short to short to intermediate range for pistol It would work. It's just one of those things where you know wait well Let me give you an example. We were buying five gallon pails of seconds from Hornady and from oh spear And when you buy their 9mm they don't sort it. You get 380 auto bullets with 9mm bullets all day. Just a mix of 95 grain. You've got to go through and pee pick them to get them out. I haven't seen those for quite some time and everybody is telling me that all those are vaporized. with the last purchases over the last couple of months. But when we would do that, we would kind of bulk load. One of the guys just simply threw everything in the lee hopper and went to town and created an intermediate load that, you know, it did well for 25 yards. It was designed for familiarization. I mean, but I wouldn't go that way normally. Again, I sort and I'm very persnickety about loading, especially like that. But one of the reasons that he came up with utility load is because we were buying 45 bullets and anything and everything was in the ball round weight range. So what he did with that is the same thing because he was using it in some machine guns. and in car beams also. He came up with a utility like a general, you know, cone of destruction load and everything functioned. It wasn't real exciting and I wouldn't trust that route, that bullet way down range at say 50 yards but for intermediate close range it's got enough of everything it needs plus it's going to be right on target. Sounds good. But I wouldn't I wouldn't comment it you remember lighter bullet greater range drops off faster other issues and again also the aerodynamic design to the bowl bullet itself Anyway, I do it. I was right there John John jump in there, please. Well, you pretty much got that covered All right. No more. Can you say that's it when you when you talk in this area though when you go over to wheel guns and I'd point out that if you're going to start shooting at .38 through your .357 you should do that with a different cylinder, shouldn't you? I see. Well, take that into consideration. Well, yeah, the big thing with if you're using a .357 gun and you're doing a lot, if you're going to be doing .38 special, one of the most common nasty habits people have is they start throwing plus P rounds into that .357. with a 38 special case. I'll tell you what happens is you get expansion and erosion step back away from the normal set for the .357 case. Now what happens is that all of a sudden I'm going to be dirty hairy, I'm going to put full house .357 Magnum loads in my gun and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then I want to drop my cylinder and I turn my cylinder out and I try to tap it and everything's stuck. You know why? It's good isn't it? Yeah because what's happened is you've formed out the cylinders internally. Don, good point on this. And we've seen this. Taurus's are beautiful guns. I have no problem with the Taurus revolver. I've carried one for years. I carried a 6 inch, their equivalent to the Model 19 and I think it was one of the nicest guns I've carried. But I did that. I was using a lot of .38 because I was getting a lot of Government .38. and the only thing is that's South American steel and it was tough on the 357 brass after that. Doesn't mean I couldn't do it. I had to remember when I opened that gun up in later years what I would do is turn it and slap. you have to slap that ejector and that means like you get used to the idea that's a nice little fine piece of metal on that palm, okay? But that would be enough strike to break the adhesion because you have a little chamber. It's not a big thing, but little things count with guns. And that chamber erosion made all the difference in the world by distracting those rounds. Good point, Don. Thank you. Anyway, Tech-A-Lace, where do you want to go, sir? We're at the top. Alright, thanks for the advice guys. Gentlemen, Don Betcher has a solution. He's helping you. We need you to step forward. If you're interested in night vision, here's your chance to get a better buy on a decent product from a person that you can trust. Don, your number for night vision please. That number is 2317968458231796. He's going to be available in just a minute. God bless the republic. Death to the new world order. 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