March 19, 2014
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1h 1m
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Mark Koernke discussed weapons, ammunition availability, and preparedness on Weapons Wednesday. He reviewed pricing and inventory for 7.62x54R rifles and ammunition across multiple suppliers, noting rapid depletion of stock. Koernke covered field camouflage techniques, weapon concealment methods, wet weather gear from Coleman's surplus, and ammunition handling best practices. He emphasized avoiding tumbling loaded ammunition and proper case inspection. The show included detailed product recommendations from AIM Surplus, Palmetto State Armory, Centerfire Systems, and Classic Firearms, with focus on acquiring Mosin-Nagant rifles at $100 and sourcing affordable ammunition.
- 7.62x54r ammunition
- mosin-nagant rifles
- weapons wednesday
- ammunition pricing
- field camouflage
- preparedness
- surplus ammunition
- aim surplus
- classic firearms
- sportsman's guide
- wet weather gear
- ammunition storage
- ak rifles
- michigan militia
- coleman's surplus
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A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. permits to start a business or to build a place for one, on land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent, although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right, and pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iookeed vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given rite, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? That was sound cool. Well good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report I mark quirky. We might have Don Betcher right there. 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Anyway, that piece of trash is contaminating the water there along with a diaper stain of brown to develop the California Soviet Socialist democracy, the CSSD, of course hammering sickle flying valiantly over the parasite and scum that would worship and honor such a disgusting symbol. turning back to the Eastman Street across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, and land in the Smoky slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, OK teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work a million petticoat junction operators. The ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well, before we go any farther, do we have Don with us? I keep hearing dings there. He might be trying to connect. He never knows. Just to be safe. I know it's been tweaking in the line. Lots of noise. We've got moisture everywhere. Well, it is the 19th of March. It is the sixth year of open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K2000 and 14 Old Earth Calendar or Mayan Crazy Town Calendar. You all know what that means. We're busy here at this end, taking care of Weapons Wednesday. Let's check one more time. Do we have Don there? Nope, we just have Reconnect. That's okay, not a problem. Anyway, it is Weapons Wednesday, by the way. Before we go any farther, I want to bring this up before I lose it. And it gets lost in the shell. Oh, no way! Everybody pops down that. Oh, wow. No, I mean I just plugged into it and it's gone. Oh, that's cool. That is so interesting Anyway, I'm gonna give you a heads up on this you're going to check on it See what's going on says it's temporary a lot of stock now in the morning program. We mentioned the water damage sold as is Ukrainian 762 by 54 are 147 grain TMJ 440 rounds per metal spam can The spam cans show damage on the outside. Pretty much remember what you do with these. You open the can right away. You don't leave them in there. Open the can right away. Get everything out of that can and into 50 caliber cans. That's what we do with all the stuff like that. We've done that for years. In this case, well it was there. It's a standard 440 round can. I would only assume that's corrosive and it looks like it is. It doesn't tell us what the head stamp is. I don't really care. It is 7.62x54R and it's $69 a can which makes it the cheapest stuff around. And since you're going to need some battle pack ammo to go right up onto either range use or training, this is how you do this. You keep all your stuff that's in great shape, leave it in the can. Stuff that's in damaged cans where you can buy it like this, you buy it, you uncan it and that's the only thing you use for training and you also put that into your battle packs prep. After it has been inspected. In the meantime, switch it over to US 30 caliber or 50 caliber ammo cans works perfectly. Anyway, that is Palmetto State Armory. They did have this. They really did. They did have this. PalmettoStateArmory.com. PalmettoStateArmory.com. PaulMentostateArmory.com. Since this morning, actually probably about, well, only a little bit ago, I just looked at it and they had some in stock again. It wasn't stock, but it says, temporarily out of stock. So apparently they got more to go through. They're going through the cases probably. Or they're making a deal on some more, who knows. But it is 7.62x54R sold as is. Buy, I don't know if you get a better deal on a case. Since it's out of stock, I don't see the price there either now. That's kind of interesting. So apparently, we'll see what happens. Availability is temporarily out of stock. Doesn't show the price. Well, of course, there we go. $76, I say $69, $76.99 is what they're saying the can price is. I don't know. Oh no, correction, I was right. $69.99, $70. $70 for one can of the questionable standard can of the same stuff where the cans are not messed up is $76.99. So I know you only save what, $7? But $7 is $7 worth of ammunition in this day and age. $7 is another magazine. $7 is part of your picatinny rail for one of your rifles, whatever. So, definitely it's worthwhile, but I would take it right out of the ding cans right away. And the stuff that looks like it's iffy, if you go up in the can and find that a can is compromised on the inside in a spot, anything that's near that spot, look at it. If it looks like it's questionable, shoot it. Clean it up real quick, shoot it. Just make sure it's not, you know, punked out to the point where, no, I can't do that. Now, what a point something else. Weapons Wednesday. Never, never, never tumble any of your loaded ammunition. Okay? If you have ammunition that's oxidized on the outside but the cartridge is not compromised, that's what number four steel wool is for. If you've got a little oxidation, take that number four steel wool, clean it up real quick, and then that gets shot at the range. It's that simple. If it's got soft metal, no, then you don't worry about shooting it at all. Break it down for components. But if it's got a little oxidation on the outside, break out the number four steel wool Scrape it off there with that number of that fine steel wool to clean it up and put it over in the 2B shot next on the range. But do not, do not, do not tumble any of your loaded ammo. Do not, do not, don't do it. Okay, I'm emphasizing that. Remember, all of your powders are a particular configuration for a reason. There's donut, there's hex, there's strand, rod, as they call it, etc., etc. Well guys, all those are designed for a particular mission and how they burn and why they burn the way they do. When you rattle battle that stuff away in a tumbler, you break down all the material and turn it into a granular. And when you do that, you also change the potential, how the stuff burns slash expands inside the chamber. Typically, you will dramatically bring up chamber pressure. Now, some weapons, this might not be a problem. If it's a big old heavy action and it's designed for something that's big and burly, it'll probably forgive you. But we don't want to take any chances and probably doesn't work. Remember again, if you're the, I know it's the lazy way, you don't go over there and tumble it. No. If you got anything that's questionable, in other words, it's got some oxidation on the outside, break out the steel, we'll clean it off, put it over into a tray for shooting. When you go to the range, that's the priority for training and for any plinking you want to do for the weekend. You want to have some fun. You'll be able to experiment a little bit with your shooting prowess using that ammunition first. Once it's shot, inspect the case, then tumble it. Steel cases, we don't throw out. Steel cases don't get left out in the range. Steel cases don't get left behind. Everything gets picked up, period. So again, just a reminder there and that's at they're already out of it though guys $69.99 a can $70 a can for the damage can slash, you know rusted cans They're like standard ham tins. They're both. It's Ukrainian ammo. It's some 62 by 54 art. That's gone now. Let me look real quick Well, they're also out of the standard Ukrainian stuff that's not questionable as far as the box goes, okay, as far as they can. So they're out of both of those for the moment. It doesn't mean they're completely out of 7.62x54R ammo, but we're going to have, in fact, I'll do a quick spot check. Let's see what they say. Oh no, that's right. This takes a lot of work to try and find anything you want to, and there's page after page. Well, you'll have to look to see what else Palmetto has if they have anything that's, uh, in stock at the moment. Now they also have nagat rifles but $350 for two. They're hex receivers which are considered more collectible now because those are obviously the earlier production receivers. But there are some nagats out there still for, as we see, $150 apiece right there on the other side. Russian Moissan they got 1891 .30s. 7.62x54 are round receivers. That's good enough for what you're doing. Hex receivers are cool but the round receivers will work just fine. They also have some MFS. They're out of stock on that, forget it. Okay, I'm not even going to worry about it. Palmetto, goodbye. Okay, they probably got good stuff. I'm sure they do. Palmetto does, but they're pretty much on the drain end with regard to what they had available. Okay, so for everybody out there, take the time and check out what they have at Palmetto State Armory. We'll keep an eye out for that ammunition to see if they have any more. Let's see next on the list and I wanted to check centerfire again today www.centerfiresystems.com Now there's a reason for this and I don't know if they're gonna see any special sales yet It's wet out there. I'm free. I care everybody keeps asking me mark. What about ponchos? Can I get ponchos? No I really, in most of the wholesalers that we are dealing with, yes you can get retail. Please don't post a bunch of retail sites. But that's common sense. Anybody can find those. We're trying to find deals. And I wanted to check to see if Centerfire Systems had, let's see, under miscellaneous is where we're going to go first. Let's see what they have in the way of gear and clothing. And they do have a separate section. You go to miscellaneous. Now they are showing. Oh hey, they've got the Tinsulate Flectar Camo Gloves used but in excellent condition for $7 a pair. That's actually a good price for those. Those are stupid price coming through the surplus system right now guys. They got a two pack of Swiss Panchos. Not a bad deal there. But again, by what I can see, there's nothing that's jumped in any great super sale right now. So here's my recommendation for the cheapest poncho you can get for the price right now in a rain weather item. Go to Colmans.com, when I've mentioned this a million times but I've had a bunch of people asking about ponchos today. Go to their clearance section. That's the clearance section. When you get to the first page of the clearance section, scroll down. Two things that they have there that you will want. Look at the weather outside. We've got standing water and we've got snow. We've got Mr. Mush and Mr. Snow and pretty soon, while we already have the beginning of it, general mud is going to be taking over for general snow and ice. That's not an if, it's a when. We're now headed towards spring. The days have counted down, time waits for no one. Right now, Coleman's has the best price on the Swiss Alpine Flauge Panchos, $3 a piece. I've brought this stuff many times, but I'm going to tell you right now, at the Wholesaler, the cheapest that I can get that pancho is about $6 a unit right now. That's a company I've dealt with for decades, and I've bought them for as little as 90 cents a piece at one time, guys, but that's not what they're going for. Coleman's bought a bunch of these back when they were cheap also and they've got a big pile of them into the poncho, swiss, alpine flash, camouflage, $3 apiece, get some. Now while you're ordering those to bulk out your order for shipping, in other words put more stuff in the box, I will remind you again, they have overshoes, rubber, US, GI, $3 a pair, brand new in the box. Oh wow, rubber boots and ponchos for a total of $6. Well, you can't beat that. That's half a keeping you dry right there. Feet and also the poncho. Now that poncho will accommodate a helmet. One more item they have there. Might want to buy some of these, but remember you've got to have a medium to small head. They've got a booney hat. U.S. GI manufactured, not a copy. U.S. GI five color chocolate chip desert camo booney hats for $2.24. Again, if you guys are way out west and you're listening to me down in Arizona or over there in Southern California, that pattern doesn't work too badly over in that area. There's a lot of brown and tan and obviously you've got the chocolate chip in there for the pebble. It's ideally suited for your environment. There's a hell of a buy at $2.24, but I buy a bunch of them and you're looking to match everybody up if you can. The only other item, again for small people, is the rubber gloves chemical protective size small. 72 to a case for $9. Now I plan on grabbing some of these for Nancy. I actually have a case here but I'm going to probably pick up one more simply because again for the girls and for the children, small gloves are what they can use and these are US military issue and these are not used. They're still in the packages. So every one of these items is valuable. Also, from the same location and on the front page again those Swiss ponchos. It's getting wet out there. I use mine today. It's hanging up right now over in the corner dripping out on the front porch so that it's ready to be used when I go back out again. I live in these things during this time of year guys. The Swiss ponchos I have piles of. The ones that I picked up I sold as many as I could figure where I could release. I'm not releasing any more of the ones I bought. However, There are some nice buys and this is Coleman's dot-com Coleman's dot-com www.colman's dot-com and if you want to give them a call their phone number is 888-478-7758 888-478-7758 that's 888-478-7758 okay or 88.4 surplus. I guess is the other way to write it. Wait a minute, is that right? That can't be right count wise. 2467. 4 surplus. I don't know how we got that. Oh well, anyway, 88.74, forgive me, 478.7758. 888.478.7758. That's Coleman's surplus. Coleman's.com. Again, go to their general page. and then scroll down to clearance and when you get into clearance then tag the first page, go right to the first page and scroll down towards the bottom. Now there's one other thing they have that for this weather you all might want. Hip waders, rubber hip waders measuring 35 inches from the heel to the top of the boots. I guess if you got those on in the poncho, I think your butt's really covered. Unused, made in the USA, size 5. Price, $4.55 a piece, brand new. So there's another cold weather item for you, a wet weather item, and again that's hip waders. $4, in fact I'm probably going to end up buying a pair of these myself again. Hip waders, $4.50. They were $15 a piece. They've got a whole bunch of them. Look at the weather out there. You make a decision. I guess if you've got those on, you don't have to worry about ever stepping in too much wet and worrying about it going up over your boot, right? Yeah, these are hip waders. They lash around the... Well, they don't go to the waist. They go to the crotch and of course, hook up left and right on the side of the belt, etc. Or you just pull them on and wear them where they are. But, as it is, $4.50, let's do that again. $3 for the poncho, $4.50 for the waiters, $3 for a pair of rubber boots. You've got a whole bunch of wet weather gear here for half of what you'd pay for any one item that you normally have in a buy like if you're looking at Gore-Tex. I know Gore-Tex is nice. Love Gore-Tex. Can't afford it. Sorry, I can, you can't. Let's put it this way, that's not true. If I were to go down to one of the jobbers, I could find some of their clunky, hunky stuff in the grab boxes and they'd give me a hell of a price on it. So I could afford to do Gore-Tex that way. But for what Gore-Tex costs for me, considering again, limits and resources, etc., no, I'm looking for the clearance items like this. So again, Swiss Alpine Pancho. Now, the other thing here, covering your weapon. There are sleeves. They're actually just drape sleeves that you can get for going over your weapon while you're in the field. Now is that your first best choice? Now when I say a drape sleeve, there's two ways that that's done. It can cover the whole length of the weapon, although typically again it should also be camouflaged, not just a flat color. Why do that? But the other option is a receiver cover. A lot of you guys are carrying weapons in the field with optics. The more that you can do to protect that from moisture, all your equipment from moisture, the better off you're going to be. Okay? The other thing is, you're breaking up the silhouette of the rifle, which is also a really good thing. And I'll repeat again, when we start looking at field actions, I know it's a beautiful black plastic stock. I know you spent $800, $900, $1,000, or $1,200 on that rifle. Congratulations. Grab three or four cans of spray paint in three or four colors. Camouflage the whole thing. Seriously. Because what's your life worth? Okay? Again, the idea is to break it up. You can also do, and I will remind you and accept, yes you can. You can use the adhesive camouflage duct tape or camo tape. They make all kinds of colors, whatever camouflage you want to run with that puppy, go ahead. That's a great idea. However, for the cover area where the receiver is, you want to be able to cast it aside, but you can even ghillie it up a little bit if you want to. There's no reason not to. If you want to, you can make it so it drapes and seizes through. The majority of what you're going to be doing in the field, you're not going to be dancing to their tune anyway. You're going to be engaging and breaking contact. With that being the case, being able to conceal or be already in the concealment mode wouldn't be a bad thing. In the old days when we had cap and ball and our footlock, an oil skin or an oil rag was typically used, or a lard rag. Literally, guys, they would, you know, because think about it, you need water repellents. Whale oil was common back in the day. Whalers were out there. Well, the equivalent to using something like a petroleum oil product, saturating the cloth, the homespun, or saturating a piece of leather, you'd let it soak in the material that you wanted to absorb the water repellent stock. Then that would drape over after it was wrung out, wiped off. You don't want any excess, you don't want it dripping with material. You also wouldn't waste it either. In this day and age people just wring it out on the ground. No you wouldn't. You'd rip it right back into the pan or the bucket where it was or in our day and age we'd use a coffee can or something and we'd save it. Put the lid back on and we'd use it again later. for whatever other material we needed to adapt that way. Greece in this day and age would work. In fact, that's what a lot of guys were doing over in Afghanistan to make this dirty camouflage that everybody is now making commercially or starting to. This dirtier smoke camo is nothing more than a reinvention of what we learned back in the 60s when we had no camouflage guys. 60s, 70s and early 80s, although Woodland Kema was coming in, everybody was taught basic improvised camouflage and one of the tricks was motor oil and cranky soils laying around or grease is laying around, a lot of wrecks on the battlefield. You take and saturate the material, lay it down in the soil where you are operating and let it soak, let it rub in, let it collect, let it lock onto the cloth. and what you've got then is natural organic camouflage based upon the terrain you're working in. So it has the shades and ranges of color that you actually are going to be laying down in. Especially in a turned dark side of the moon battlefield situation. Which everybody on the one hand says, we're not going to have and then tells you all about how they're going to be bombing this and tearing up that. Well, pick a direction. Whatever it is, usually the weezers that do that. Like, it's going to resist. They're going to do this. Oh, well then we'll handle it that way. Well, that's because they're going to do this instead. Oh, then we'll handle that too. No, it's impossible, it's gonna resist. You like the bad guys, don't you? I like them a lot. See, that's the whole problem. Usually people doing that in the back of their mind, it's like, I'm gonna appease them and make them feel good about me. Yeah, I'm sure you are. So anyway, in this situation with regard to the cover for the rifles and for the receiver areas, remember that whenever possible, make a point of also cutting in an irregular pattern. roll the cut. That's one thing that in fact I wanted to talk about that even with structures. We've been doing this with structures more recently. One of the things that we're doing is small temporary, well now they're not so much temporary, but they are mobile. They can be disassembled, but we're putting structures up, but we're not doing standard rectangular roofs guys. Number one, we get the roofing for free. We get the board for free. So we're sculpting and rolling it so it doesn't have any 90 degree angles or square edges. Now the peak might come to a little bit of a square, or at least more uniform, and then rolls back out, and then rolls back in, and the leading edge down below is sculpted also, so it curls. Now it rolls a little bit. Squiggles. The idea behind this is that from the air it does break up the pattern. Another thing, why standard shingling when you can go with a mix of shingles? And, by the way, a little bit of paint here and there using a paint gun isn't going to hurt the roof at all. In fact, just the reverse creates just another layer so you can actually break up the silhouette of the roof quite nicely. This will complement camouflage nets when the time comes. Because they'll be at a standoff, and of course, be careful there. If you set up camo nets, you don't want them to be rectangular and squared out. Right angles and straight lines draw attention. So we've already done this up at Camp Emery. It works quite nicely. The only thing is it does take a little more work to do the final cuts and everything because you've got to be rolling with the saw. You're not just going to go zigzag and jag. That's Air Force. OK. You'll see some of the camo on the planes. Anyway, the idea here is that roll that cloth the same way. And if you want to, another little trick there is dip that in wax, the end of the cloth. Everybody goes, Mark, why would you dip it in wax? Well, because you don't want your cloth to fray. Now it's going to break off, but the wax, a paraffin, these waxes are more malleable but more expensive. What you do is you're actually sealing the end of the thread so that it doesn't just break down on you right away. It's going to come apart eventually and fray a little bit and really don't mind that because that will actually be part of the camel process. But create a rolling cut for your gear covers. That way on top of everything else. Now the next thing I'm sure everybody's wondering, Mark you said, Gilly said, well if you want to do burlap, I mean I've got 50 miles of burlap saved up. Every time I see burlap it goes into a special set of barrels and containers or it's in its own bags. And I've got miles of burlap wrap. I've left it out so it would actually sun stain in different colors. You know it's been bleached. So it's different shades of tan, every shade of brown and tan and doe skin brown you can imagine. So without even having to dye it, it already has a wide range of color shades to work with. You can also ghillie up with a little bit of stitching, a little bit of work. You can actually ghillie up your cover. Just, again, take a look at it. See if it makes sense. Understand that it has to actually blend in. Beware patterns. Beware of trying to create patterns. Patterns are just as noticeable as straight lines in many cases. That's one of the problems with camouflage patterns in commercial cut. If they're too close and too repetitive, that can actually be noticed. Now it's something for the detail eye to pay attention to. You know, you and I would have to be hunting harder, but it's part of the factor when you're talking about sniper or if you're talking about placement shooting operators where the individual is going to be hunted. You don't want to offer anything if you can help it so you have to think deep and you have to think detail Okay, just something to consider there now Do we have down with us yet? Just want to check to see because I know he's maybe he may be running late the weather up there is about the same as weather down here all across the state of Michigan we're getting late winter and into early spring now guys in fact Now you have to be careful because you step out there and there is a little ice and it has water on top of it and you think it is safe to step out and woo! Away you go. So slow down. Don't lose your snow legs and ice legs yet. You are going to need them. Pay attention. Look at the environment before you move through it. Pay attention to detail. Especially that ice under the surface there. I watched a lot of people take spills in town the last couple of days because they weren't really paying attention. And they are always in a hurry. Well, a little slower means not getting wet, landing with your keister on the ground, or breaking a bone like somebody else did here, broke three ribs. Actually, we had somebody in town broke three ribs and twisted an ankle. You don't want to be part of that casualty list, so slow down, pay attention to your environment, and act accordingly. I know everybody's in a hurry, but we still have to again, right now we're not under fire yet, but we are going to have to press again. I understand how you're going to press the time. Let's see. Next on the list here, and I wanted to go also to, I've got to check AIM surplus, www.aim surplus.com. Now there's a reason, because now my curiosity is up. The 7.62x54R was the most readily available ammunition out there, guys. But I'm not seeing, OK, they do have some beer we go. Oh, I love it when stuff shows up. See now, on the one hand, all the other stuff was gone. On the other hand, these are Molot grade B Moyzenneigots. Alright, $100 Nagots! There you go. We found some $100 Nagots. Are they pretty? No. Are they field grade? Yes. Will they shoot somebody dead, dead, dead or kill Bami? Why, of course they will. They were doing it before with these rifles. That's why they got the scratches and the marks. So anyway, they have Russian Molot 1891 Model 30 B grade Moisens they gots. Here's your chance to purchase a rifle back in the $100 range. These are great rifles. They're just going to have a little more stock and finish wear than our typical excellent condition 9130s. We have included a lot of a picture as we believe the most accurately depict, they most accurately depict their condition. Yeah, they look average. This is the typical field grade, oh actually better than the average because the finish isn't too bad on them but they've definitely been used. Each is individually packaged by Molot in Russia, includes Spike Bannett. Okay, so you get the bayonet and that's it. Don't get the cleaning kit apparently. There's a whole photo essay of pictures. Grab some of these. If you were, you know, somebody asked me right now, you've already seen what the average price is for those out there. Grab them. But, even as you do, I'm going to point something out also. Don't worry about the hand-picked. By the way, I see that down there. Ignore that. Save the $10. Just buy what's off the shelf, whatever they grab, they grab. Serviceable enough. Again, great for a 5.10 program. $500 gets you five rifles. Woo hoo! That's a good choice. $500 gets you five large, more center fire rifles. All of those will put nice, mean holes in things. A rack of five of those with five 440 round cans underneath each rifle, one can under each rifle, and the other can opened up and pre-deployed with the web gear or with equipment ready to go in 30 caliber or 40 caliber can. Forgive me, a 50 caliber can. There you go. Again, that's AIMSurplus.com. aimsurplus.com it's 888-748-5252 888-748-5252 888-748-5252 looking at the cost again hundred dollars apiece and there all the information you need about it is down below so that shouldn't be a problem now the next thing we're looking is to see if it's one-stop shopping time maybe they still have Some 7.62x54 are ammo in stock, but you know what's funny is they don't show it on the front page and that's a bad sign. That's a bad sign Ralph! Okay, well let's double check see what they have here. And the reason I bring that up is you may have to go to one place and then go to another. However, if we're gonna cross our fingers here and hope that they still have a reasonable inventory of goodies, and if they do, they should, there we go, maybe they do. We'll see what happens here. They're out of their cans of ammo. It's gone. They're out of the 182 grain FMJ. They've got preview partisan PPU, 182 grain FMJ boat tail. Or they had match ammo for 1,450. Well, that's good. 1,395 will get you standard 182 grain. Or 1,395 will get you 150 grain. Now, I'm going to remind you what I've said before. The heavier bullets harder to get as things get thin. Have you all noticed that? So if I am going to pay $13.95 a box between 7.62x54R, FMJ and 150 grain soft point, buy the ball. Buy the ball ammo. 182 grain FMJ, boat tail. See your boat tail bullet. There you go kids. For about $14 a box, its preview part is on, it's boxer primed reloadable. That is a good load. That is an excellent option. Why? Because it's reloadable brass. Again, that Nagat will tack dry for you, especially in an urban warfare or a long-range environment in the field. You're not going to be treating this as an assault weapon. It is part of a combined arms team. However, I would point something out I'm noticing as a trend. The 7.62x54R ammo is starting to dry up in several areas. Now, I don't know who else might have it, but we're going to do something real quick. Now, we're going to go back to somebody else here right away. CenterfireSystems.com had some Bulgarian corrosive in the 7.62x54R. By the way, they also have some 308, but there are several companies with 308 ammunition in stock right now. Unmo.com, CenterfireSystems.com, and several others. However, what we are interested in is those $100 nagats over at AIM Surplus. Now let's see if they have the Bulgarian ammo. They do. 100, well that's not cheap. It's cheap enough. It's cheap, but it's not as cheap as it could be. 440 rounds of 760 by 54 hour Bulgarian corrosive in the 10s. $120 a can. Now, that's CenterfireSystems.com. So now we're on the hunt for something here because I got a curious, my mind is going curious here on things. www.unmo.com. Now we're looking for the cans because after all there should be so many and there's no press on the ammunition there should just be piles and piles and piles and piles and tons and tons of 7.62x54R in the cans ready for you to just scarf up and you don't have to wait in line for it. You don't have to worry about it being sold out except everywhere I've gone so far it's sold out. Except for again for 120 round cans, 120 dollar cans as opposed to under a hundred dollar cans. Okay, now for a case, if they have it in stock, it says they have 10 plus cases in stock. $225 for 880 rounds, about the same price, $110, $112.50. Still a little better price, but it's on the west side of the country, okay. $265 per case for 880 rounds, military surplus manufacture, packing airtight span cans, well we know that. and this is, let's see if there's any more information, doesn't say what country this is from. It looks to be, it's the copper wash steel case obviously. Looks like it might be Russian. In fact it probably is. I'll just figure that batch is Russian. And they do have also some brass, quote unquote, target, oh, oh, correction, correction. Oh. They've got some 7.62x54 brass case tracer rounds. They trace red and are manufactured in the US by Trajectech. They are loaded in pull down Russian brass cases. The primers are corrosive so cleaning your gun after shooting is recommended. I do that with tracer anyway guys. The tracer does not harm your gun in any way but it still creates a carbon filament warning on that. So you want to make sure you clean your gun guys just like they said. These trace out around 500 plus yards packed in 20 round boxes. 500 rounds for $345. So if you want to put some trace into your package they do have that in 7.62x54R. However, those are the two loads only that they have. And they do have the 148 grain. Remember what I said earlier about that heavier bullet? They've got the 148 grain of 7.62x54R in the cans, and that is at UNAMO.com. UNAMO.com. Now, this is interesting, because this trend, of course, in the last couple of days, this is where we've been seeing a change. Not to the surprise. It's not a surprise for me at all. It's just the idea that it's going faster by the minute here. Before I got up on the air, that ammo was there, come back on the air, come up on the air and the ammo is gone. Okay, now, amoman.com. They just got a bunch of 556 ammunition in, so you may want to check that out guys to see what they have available. But in the 760x54R, The only thing that they have is the Silver Bear 174 grain full metal jacket 500 rounds for $320. So right now there's other places but the hamcans are going out the door fast. Everybody hear what I said about that with the 7.62x54R? Those rifles for $99, $100 a piece are at aimsurplus.com. However, to get the cheaper ammunition you're going to have to go somewhere else. So take the time and Let's see what we can find out there. Now they do have an ammunition to go for 20 round boxes or bags. It could be paper wrapped. I don't know which it is. It doesn't show a picture of the box. The container. No it is. Paper wrapped to see behind the cartridges there. $5.49. A bundle of 20. So that's ammo to go. There's another direction. Ammo to go, thanks to our friends in the chat room. We need to hunt down the cheapest for the mostest in cans. That's what we're looking for, guys. And of course there's Sportsman's Guide. There we go. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. This does not lift the building. Thank you very much. Anyway, we have 440 rounds, 147 grain, and 880 rounds. Well, of course, the same ammo. Order online and what is the price? 800 and non-members it's $200 for 880 rounds. Okay, that's Sportsman's Guide. So that's not too bad. But they're not selling individual cans. This is rather interesting. It says, sorry, item temporarily unavailable. Well, yeah it is. They show they got cases of ammo and there's two cans per case. But they won't sell a can. They're only selling it by the case, $200 per case. So again, that is Sportsman's Guide dot com Sportsman's Guide dot com and it's 762 by 54R. It's the Russian 147 grain FMJ, which is what I would prefer is FMJ first by the soft point later. If you have to go to that, but the ball rounds first. 880 rounds. The item number, the stock number is 206981. That's 206981. and that's in the hamcans and you have to buy a case at a time $200 per case so for $200 you get 880 rounds for $100 you get yourself a nagat rifle at AIM surplus and that looks like the best price right now it's B grade they showed pictures of them I wouldn't have any problem with them those things the rifles on the outside aren't dark they've already been factory rebuilt and refinished guys it's just that those rifles were obviously used for training and or for fighting So, again, AIMSurplus.com, AIMSurplus.com is on the front page. They have nagots for $100 apiece. Get them. We'll clean them off the shelf. Get them. I want our people to get them first. Not worried about anybody else who's slower than molasses or doesn't think about it. That's not my problem. We'll get the goodies first. On the ammo, best price right now that has it in stock. Centerfire has it also. And there's other companies that have 20 round boxes or whatever. Right now they do have at Sportsman's Guide, they have Hamtins, you got to get two at a time, you got to buy a case, a full case for $200. They won't sell you an individual can, they've taken it off the list down below guys. So you have to buy a case at a time. That's $200 for 880 rounds. That's a hell of a good price no matter what. When you look at all the other Centerfire rifle cartridges, look at the cost. Again, amoman.com has Silver Bear, 174 grain. Once again, a heavier bullet but it's a little lower in weight than the ones we were looking at there over at AIM surplus. So again, you're looking a little less price cost-wise, a little more though than the other surplus stuff. So I'd go to surplus cans first. They run out. I'd do the Huggy Bear, Silver Bear, Gummy Bear, Brown Bear, whatever they got, etc. And of course, the preview part is on is factory brass heat anneal case boxer primed reloadable the preview partisan is the highest grade or the highest quality out there right now especially because it is boxer prime so you can keep your rifle running I would save all steel case, all aluminum case, all your 22 cases. Don't leave anything behind. I just bought a, not bought, I just got for free. I went down to the recycling bin. These large mouth kitty litter containers that are about like a gallon and a half and two gallons in size. Two gallons really perfect. Guys, that's where all of my spent cases go. I just got six or seven of them for free down the recycling bin. They're dry on a popcorn fart. All they had was kitty litter in it that got poured out. If there was any little dusting of kitty litter left inside, I dropped it on my ice out here. Wow, did a great job. That ice is gone. But guess what? Now I've got a really nice container, dry, it's got a big mouth seal on it. I put 308 in one, I put 762 by 54R. I've got a bunch of other stuff that's got to be sorted. I've got two 5 gallon pails of 40 caliber brass that have got to go out now. I've got two 5 gallon pails we picked off the range. And I'm not saying, well, I'm talking solid right to the top. For free. And most of it's brass case. I don't really care. I hope they keep doing it. In fact, that's why I didn't make any noise. I keep that up. We'll be back to pick it off the range again. What I'm amazed at is nobody picked up the brass. There was some lawmen, but mostly the brass case and all boxer prime, Winchester, you know, flinchchester or, you know, the magtech ammo, etc. So somebody's got more money in brains. As long as they keep doing it, I'll keep grabbing it. I would remind our friends down in Arizona, there's a couple of valleys. out there that have been commenting about that are in the public lands. Boys, I would go out there with a pickup truck and I wouldn't leave until it was so dark I couldn't see anymore and my truck would be loaded instead of those rangers going, are you carrying any trash out of here? I'd laugh at them and say, are you kidding? We're grabbing every round we can so we can get ready for the war. Thanks for bringing it up. We're going back to get more tomorrow. Screw you. They aren't laughing or trying to bully up then, are they? Oh, and the whole thing is full. Yeah, screw you fools. You're right, we do need to pull this off the desert. We need to get every round out of there we can. Right now. So if you're out there in that neck of the woods and there's a range point where they've been dumping brass and everything all over the place, pick it up. You know the cool thing? You strip an area and you clean it up completely with everything you can. By the way, there's little magnets, you know, take a magnet with you for the steel case, even the yucky ones. Take the junky yucky ones and put them over into a bucket by themselves. Why? It's scrap metal. It's fragmentation. It's all kind of wicked stuff. Brass and steel cases that are junk either get melted down for what they are or they get stuffed into things that go boom day or night. And that brass case that's all chewed up and shot up and might be bent up or that steel case is a hellacious piece of fragmentation going out of a fugue. Oh yeah. Boom. Yeah, I know the other one's not screaming much, but he's got about 6 or 7, 7.62x54R steel case is stuck in his forehead. Oh well. Anyway, yeah, he didn't scream at all. He just kind of looked stunned and fell over. They're stripping him of his black uniform and gear and all the goodies right now. Unfortunately, we mucked up a lot of it with that one. Anyway, the whole point here is again, collect and grab everything, but there is some 7.62x54 out there. There is some 545 out there, although the 762x54R is what's being eaten up and not being quickly replaced. Everybody should notice this. I don't think anybody should be, you know, again, we're not going to be surprised or, oh my goodness, shocked and amazed, etc. It shouldn't be at all. Just again, roll with the flow, kids, roll with the flow. Now, they show the classic. In fact, our friends there in the chat room, let's see what classic is asking. They got rifle with laminate and hex they want $200 for guys two for one go to aim surplus You can get a standard scratchy model for $99 right now you get two rifles for the price of that one and I'd recommend the other two rifles seriously I love I love highly finished weapons, but the tools that you need in your toolbox right now Don't have to look pretty they need to be functional. I love the laminate stocks the Germans made laminate stocks the Russians copied the laminate stock idea And that's where they got it from. The K98 Mausers out there, especially the German early war, mid war production, were beautiful when they're finished. Beautiful! Oh my goodness, the wood is fantastic. And there's a lot of them floating around. There's whole arsenals of those waiting to put bullets down range, guys. You just don't hear as much about them because they've become goofy price. They are $200 and $300 a piece. The Nagats, if we can find them for $100, that's the rifle you want. Okay? I appreciate the posting on that for that Nagat with the hex. By the way, classic arms. And it is Weapons Wednesday. We are headed to the top of the first hour here. Oh, whoa, wait a minute. Well, guys, you didn't post the right one there. They have the hex for well, they do have the laminate stock for $154.99 if you buy the cheapest model But did you notice that they do have also Molot rifles at classic for $109 apiece 110 so it's $10 more looks like they left everything in at the toolkits there a pouch to carry it Along with a bayonet. Maybe the other rifles get that too. I don't know but $110 at classic firearms now the reason I switched over there 7.62x39 rifles. Let's see what they have left of those kit rifles. Yep, they still show them an inventory that they have them. Best priced AK in the country right now, and especially for you guys who are looking maybe for something for a youngster, or to give to a, you know, you give to one of the ladies. AUGO M70 AK type semi-auto N-PAP rifle, low capacity. with black polymer thumb hole stock made in Serbia by Zastava Arms 7.62x39. You get 20 magazines and the rifle for $450. Now guys, they're 10 round mags. I know that. But I'm going to tell you right now, I put a scope rail on that. I have Don's night vision on one scope platform. I have two matching scopes on the other two mounts that I buy. I'd put a longer flash hider on that, either a 74 or a Polish basket flash hider on that weapon. Maybe a bipod because there's a couple of options for bipods. And that rifle becomes a little placement rifle, a baby dragon off. And for what it is, it will work just fine. For a security weapon, for a game getting weapon, for a training weapon, and it is just as lethal as every other AK we have out there. You get 20 mags with a weapon right off the bat. You get the rifle itself. Congratulations, you're ready to roll. Right out of the box. Then buy all the 7.62x39 or whatever you can afford to support that weapon. As a matter of fact, classic. Let's go over there. Last thing before the top of the hour here. Well, I do not see any great thing jumping off everything out of stock, most everything out of stock. Well, okay, they do not have any 7.62x54R, but they do have some 5.45, and yes, they do have some 7.62x39 ammo. They also have some Wolf 9mm poly performance. I don't see any 7.62. Again, you can't do one-stop shopping here. You can get the rifles for $110 but you'll have to go somewhere else for the ammo. I think that should be a flag, guys. Is everybody paying attention? So let's be ahead of the wave on this. Go ahead and buy whatever Kansas. If you've got 7.62x54R weapons, I'd be buying whatever Kansas ammo I can that are at the lowest price. And right now it appears that probably Sportsman's Guide has the best price for a whole case at $100 a can. There may be some others out there, even a few days ago there were some for $89. I don't know if they're all burned up and gone, it's possible. So again, let's catch the difference on this. If you're going to buy one of those 7.62x39 U-Goes with a 10 round mag, Classic Firearms does have 7.62x39 FMJ 1000 rounds of Wolf for $250. So there you go, one stop shopping. You get the rifle with 20 mags, you get the ammunition right there, get the ball. If they run on a ball then you go to something else. But they've got ball ammo, they've got it in stock, and it's $250 a case of 1000 rounds. Now that's probably a block poly wrap bag. In other words a square blump of ammo. Guys, make sure that you buy ammo cans to put that ammunition in. Ideally because some people can't handle the bigger cans, you can run it in any 30 caliber ammo cans, metal ones, that's what you want to load it over to. Just as a policy. Again, one stop shopping for the 7.62x39. They've got the 450, they've got the Ugo rifle with 20 mags, 10 round mag, low capacity. $450. They've got wolf ammunition 7.62x39 for 1,000 rounds for $250. So pretty cool. That's one way to do it. And the nagats, two people have cheap nagats, they've obviously came in from the same jobber at the same time that's who they both bought from. AIM has a better price by $10. Buy it from them until they're gone. Second is go to classic. But either way you're going to end up having to go somewhere else to get volume 7.62x54 ammo. We're on the hunt for the cheapest source for that ammunition now please. That's what I would ask. Everybody pitch in, let's see what we can find out there. Again, we're looking for 7.62x54R cheapest priced for the most ammunition. That's why you're buying these rifles because you're looking for cheap ammunition, most for the least. That's our goal. So 7.62x54R Sportsman's Guide is one option. Of course, again, www.ammunitiontogo does have the ammo in stock. Whatever you want to do, it's a personal choice. I can't make you do anything. Gun tattoo mistakenly brings heavily armed police to main man's home. You know, I'll tell you. Do you get tired of fools? Do you get tired of all these animal retentive panty waste fools that are causing all these problems? Really, I do. Any excuse to attack a firearms owner means that we just need to get to the war on this thing, get it done and over with. The paddy waste will shut the hell back up because I beat them down with a 2x4. Then we can get on with life. Then go somewhere else. We're going to ship their arse out of this country. We just need to do it. We're at the top of the hour. We should be hearing the music in a minute here. Everybody out there listening to these weapons Wednesday, try to find solutions this hour towards the later half we were looking at. 7.62x54R, let's look for the cheapest price for the boat. There we go. God bless the Republic. That's the new world order. 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