February 13, 2014
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Mark Koernke discussed gun rights, ATF regulations, and the legal ambiguities surrounding AR-15 lower receivers and machine gun parts with Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America. The conversation covered how the ATF interprets firearm modifications, the risks of building custom guns, concealed carry permits, and voter fraud allegations involving electronic voting systems. Koernke also addressed thermal imaging technology, military tactics in Afghanistan, and criticized politicians who switched positions on gun ownership.
- atf
- gun owners of america
- ar-15
- lower receiver
- machine gun parts
- concealed carry
- second amendment
- voter fraud
- electronic voting
- afghanistan
- thermal imaging
- gun rights
- larry pratt
- michigan
- preparedness
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The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. Enlist the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. According to the state, you read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seasonally farm. and keep our country deep in death. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters, the leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Fear, you slave. The sons of the Republic arise. Send the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic in each God-given right. The dialogue he vanished and missed for once he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. 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From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming, two in Pueblo, third, fifth, fifth, recall state of Colorado, waiting to the left coast. our friends from the state of Jefferson just it's a beautiful day out there it's cold it's winter time it's like 1978 all over again we've never seen anything like this since well two or three times earlier in my life wait a minute I'm 56 years old and I've seen this three or four times and none of that but a whole lot of winners because I live up here in Michigan wolves are howling back to the east we sweep across over the Virgin Bank the Mississippi and land in the Smoky slice the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crew's grandma team's okay teams the mobville Grandma Consortium bring us the Golden We got all our solar panel technology running high here, my little solar demon. 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We got the big epic weekend starting tomorrow morning 0800 for all of our micro rebroad casters will be online across the The whole of the state but all of the pistachio camp whalen uh... the open ranges will be open i do not believe they're going to be using the extreme long-range target weekend the rifle uh... also intermediate rifle qualification range earlier will be in the opens with the player remind everybody again uh... we make sure that we're short happen it in there you looking about fifty right now could be a qualified and they'll be running every group for about half an hour to forty minutes per cycle with phase one and through the morning will probably won't be until one o'clock before every unit is cycled through ways one and they're going to open up the fire and maneuver range and that means that again take about half an hour to forty minutes should be happening and hopefully even a little less because they're live fire and maneuver move out of got you covered and moving out and away you go uh... the cycle is for the cycle and or a bottle washer or a rifleman or a radio man everybody participates and will go through the cycle campnag hitchum uh... american emerson uh... will be the start-up point for the cross-country or entering uh... ski event that's taking place at night or entering and they were entering petition we have different key cross-country uh... great no distance event that you go far as they possibly can in the short period of time we're going to see who's got their shoes got their skilig and by the end of the day their wobbly even doing that every day uh... cross-country skiing who has to take Yeah, there's some rubber bands and the wobbly rubber bands. Just how it works. I've seen this before. That's the whole idea. Again, test this. There's a conversation that's been going on or you have some in the chat room about thermal protection or thermal reduction protection with FLIR. And I'm going to point something out again, guys. The first rule about most of the testing is number one, the testing for laboratory purposes to demonstrate the potential of the mylar blankets is cool. Remember that it is cool disruption because we take advantage of concealment. Just because you think you have something that protects you in the way of camouflage doesn't mean you stand out in the middle of the field. Let me point something out. They got really garbage rain in Afghanistan. Wouldn't everybody agree? I'll ask you something. I've pointed this out many times with our sophisticated grade A, double A, triple A, quad A, Super duper night vision and thermal technology. We lost an entire SEAL team that walked right into an LLC where there was no tree cover. There's no heavy cover at all How is it they couldn't see? The individuals that were on the ground that were you know There were many tens of them that shot up and destroyed that SEAL team coming in We're not talking about SEAL team six which was betrayed by the shysters the Israelis helped us set them up to kill them There's no doubt about that one We're talking earlier on, if you look at the stories that came out of the progressive Afghan invasion and occupation for the opium war, okay, for the opium, you know, dune, for the forces to go to Iraq to make sure that the opium travels, because we're the latest empire so they can maximize production and get more opium out there to sell to your kids on the street here in the United States. That's in motion and happening, and the government's doing it. It's not our troops, it's the government's doing it. It's just our people are there. Remember that the technology, how did they defeat that? What were they doing? Well, they're using their brains. Number one, just because I do have deception technology, I don't care what it is, doesn't mean I'm going to break from my standard policy of using cover and concealment. Why? Well, on top of everything else, especially if you look outside here at Michigan, you see all those trees, you see all that foliage, you see the terrain you'll be using to make sure that you disrupt your image to begin with. Remember that the thermal technology and all of this, even night vision technology, can't see through certain things. They'd like you to believe that. But the bottom line is, is that if you use a red out system, that's what we call it because one of our, several of our people years ago, back in the 90s, came out with the red out system. Now everybody's basically reinventing this, looking at the thermal blankets and technology that's out there. And we got down to this by the way. but the real purpose of the because you're not going to stand out in the middle of the field because you think you have an invisible equal that would be stupid now granted their arrogant uh... arrogant secret police who will be doing stuff like this and we don't want them to change when they do because built i die die and when they died we don't want to pass on information that they screwed up the next batch of secret police will come out no died i died because of the things to put thing on our side even though you have other technology cover and concealment key to success on the battlefield. The basic. Yes. And it does not change even though all these other technologies have been piled in. Why? Well because for the muhajadeen or whatever you want to call them, the Afghans in Afghanistan from whatever flavor they are. The smart ones. It's like in Dune. Anybody ever read the book Dune? Remember when the Harkonnens, I know this is not going to relate to a lot of you, which means you're going to be forced to maybe read the book, Dune. But if you read it, yeah, I know you have to read a book. Yep, if you read it, pay attention. They're talking about the Harkonnens are bragging how they killed so many of the Aroquin natives. Okay, how they had been killing the Freeman. What was pointed out by one of the intelligence officers, you know, Dufir Hawat, was the fact that, well, you were only killing the slow ones that weren't quite as fast or as sharp as the rest. because of this they felt really good about who they were slaughtering until they finally figured out that they weren't but getting the slow ones and they had grossly miscalculated the performance level of what was around that was very much alive having the battlefield sounds really great when you know get this is that body count thing remember vietnam and shut up about this and made it to disappear well we know we killed them because we got a blood trail here we got a blood trail there we got a lot of our way in fact they were the body count thing was the big thing especially towards the middle end and the end of the war because that was the brownie point thing. You could claim that you were victory in the jaws of defeat because we were forced to leave by the politicians. But we were, again, we were killing people, but the body counts were purely a matter of the numbers game for brownie points. Well, I don't want to change the subject, Mark, but we might have a guest waiting. Oh, OK. See what? Let's do this, because we've got to call her up, and we've got a guest. Don, jump in there, and let's bring our caller up, please. I think we might have Larry with us. Gun owners of America? We got a subject we need to machine gun on here for a while. No pun intended. But this is kind of... Let me do this. Good morning. Come up as fast as the ability to breathe. You know what I mean? Woods other than the... Actually add advantage to... Freedom. There's... You know, we still have a whole simile of, you know, a facsimile of rights here in America. one of them is the gun ownership. And you know, that you have to say that, well, when we speak of a facsimile of, you know, it looks like, but it isn't really. We need to elaborate on a few of these things because to be in America could just, you know, pick up a hunk of a railroad tie and the gun out of it if you wanted to. And now we're looking at building guns because well, guns just aren't as prolific as they used to be. People seem to be buying them up. It's why if you wanted to go and buy an AR-10 or an A-10, If you're a CR-15, you might even get on a waiting list or something, not to mention other lists. We'll talk about. In order to circumvent that waiting list, people are looking at part in building up guns that we need to address in the industry right now because ATF, and I need to follow, what does the ATF call a gun when we talk about? It's a paperweight. Let's elaborate on that because, you know, them ATF doubles, they really don't want to see you alter a gun, do they? All kinds of guns, and then you this year, just that single part by itself, you can't have that if you don't have an FFL Class III license, right? Okay, now, let's go back to the lower. Because you guys, we've established, and the ATF will tell you that, even if you just have the lower there, no other pieces of the gun in the house, you have a gun in the house. Am I correct? That would be their definition. Let's elaborate on that for a moment, Mary, because this goes over to interpretation. And you have to understand that that facsimile of freedom in America here, what that represents is the guy that pulls you over into your car, the guy that's walking down the road, the guy that knocks at your door, the guy that comes to your office, he's the bottom line on your rights. It matters not what the Constitution says. The guy with the gun telling you, get up more, on whatever his instructions are, interpretive, interpreter of your rights in that instance. We know that this is a, for giving a bastardization, we have to understand that the guy with the gun there, no matter what he thinks, no matter how stupid, no matter even if he only has four brain cells for each side of his body, he is the law in that instance. Now that might seem a bit extreme. Let's do it like this because the APF will say, machine guns. That really law is that way. So they'll persecute you for that. This only underscores the previous statement, doesn't it? Now with that in mind, let's talk about these plastic shoe guys. Safe, don't tell you any guts, you know, 79, 80%. Let's go back to that modified thing. Larry, wasn't there an AK that, the country that had a single stack mag and the only difference between it and a double stack mag, the standard AK mag, was a screw was positioned in the magazine well that didn't allow the double stack magazine to go into the gun. And if you were to take that screw out of the magazine well, it didn't hold anything together, all it was was an obstruction. If you were to take that screw out of the magazine well so that you could use the double stack mag, standard AK mag, altered that. I'm not sure they would. This was in the time when they were only selling, you know, we can't have a... But now this goes over to altering a gun. As soon as you buy one of these lowers, you guys, we're talking about a mire here. Let's talk about something that the guy at the door circulation or not. As soon as you buy one of these lowers and start to machine on it, if he wants to be a, you know, we all know what the B stands for in BATF. If he wants to be that illegitimate of the law, he can tell you he altered that gun. And no matter if you have any other gun parts in the house, even if you just have that lower that you put tooling to out the magazine well or something, if he wants to be a ATF B, He can tell you that you've altered that gun and because you've altered it, well, we're going to bring charges against you. Now this is times we've asked you to compare an inch to a mile on this hour. Understand that. I've encouraged people on the hour, and I don't know exactly how this goes over, but I don't want to go to jail. One of my, I used to say it kind of foolishly, but one of my main goals in life is not to go to jail. Now that might sound like someone, oh in America there are plenty of people in jail who didn't do anything, but they're in jail. Ask Mark Cornke, seven years in jail. I use that as an underscore. Not the state from a crook or someone trying to live like a crook. It is a statement from someone who realizes the facsimile limitation of freedom that we live under. So one of my main goals in life is not to go to jail. So I've encouraged people to, if you want to carry a gun in this time frame and you don't want to go to jail, get a concealed carry. And that way, you know, it's much like your fishing license. You know, in a broad sense, you know, you guys, your fishing license allows that DNR guy to go home at night. Now, you don't have to think too hard to understand that statement about in the world of, let's get a concealed carry permit so we don't have to still have that gun with us until, well, I mean, we don't need a concealed carry permit anymore because we have all the landscape, race, that facsimile of freedom and brought, but until then, let's do this. Very dear things that if the government didn't like me, And I got my credit card out and I called up that company and oh, they also offer bolt $49. Those are machine gun bolts. They're a heavier bolt. You guys, there's a sidebar here. If you want to make your AR-15 more accurate, put a machine gun bolt in it. It's a heavier bolt. There's two kinds of lock times in guns. There's lock time for the trigger. When you start to pull the trigger, this is when the tier lets go. And another type of lock time in a gun is, in particular, this applies only to semi-auto and auto guns, how long the breech is closed while there's a fire going on inside the gun. If you were to take a heavier bolt from the machine gun, AR-16, and put it in your AR-15, you're going to increase your lock time after they close just a little bit longer and you will increase the accuracy of your gun. A lot of shooters do this. A lot of shooters in competition is almost standard. I've learned a lot more about M16s and AR-15s as of late. But Larry, if I were to get my credit card out and I ordered that plastic bottom and I ordered that machine gun bolt, do you think the government, in particular the ATF, if they thought that they wanted to throw Donald William Dutcher in jail, they could come and knock on my door and prosecute me for intent? We're talking about these plastic lowers, but there needs to be another hole drilled in order for it to become that isn't even patterned into. Have that talk about M16s, AR15s. You know, Armalite was so tell me if I'm wrong here Larry. Buy one of the earths. All I would have to do literally you guys is switch out the sear and I've got Mia. So we have gone out there in the world with the machine gun part changed into a, you know, we're gonna go to break here. We've opened up a can here you guys that we need to sort on for a while. This is worth it to get him to stay to the other side. I'll be quiet. We'll listen to you some more on the other side I promise. Okay? We'll be right back. You guys need the intelligence reports. Myself and the Constitution is a masterpiece. James Madison was a genius. The Declaration of Independence is for me the single greatest piece of American writing. What about the people? Why is it not the greatest country in the world, Professor? That's my answer. The NEA is a loser. Yeah, it accounts for a penny out of our paycheck. But he gets to hit you with it any time he wants. It doesn't cost money. It costs boats. It costs airtime. Column inches. You know why people don't like liberals? Because they lose. If liberals are so smart, I can make a lose always. Hey! And with a straight face, you're gonna tell students that America is so star-spangled awesome that we're the only ones in the world who have freedom? Canada has freedom. Japan has freedom. The UK, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Australia, Belgium has freedom. So 207 sovereign states, and we're like 180 of them have freedom. Alright, and you got you, a sorority girl. Just in case you accidentally wander into a voting booth one day, there's some things you should know. One of them is There is absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we're the greatest country in the world. We're seventh in literacy, 27th in now, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, third in median household income, number four in labor force, and number four in exports. We lead the world. in only three categories. Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who bleed angels are real, and defense spending, where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined. 25 of whom are allies. Now, none of this is the fault of a 20-year-old college student, but you nonetheless are without a doubt a member of the worst period generation period ever, period. So when you ask what makes us the greatest country in the world, I don't know what you're talking about. Sure used to be. We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons. We passed Laws struck down laws for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty not poor people We sacrificed we cared about our neighbors We put our money where our mouths were and we never beat our chests. We built great big things made ungodly technological advances explored the universe cured disease and we Cultivated the world's greatest artists and the world's greatest economy We reached for the stars, acted like men. We aspired to intelligence. We didn't belittle it. It didn't make us feel inferior. We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election and we didn't scare Suisi. We were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed by great men, men who were revered. First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one. America is not the greatest country in the world anymore. and bringing the people's voice to little towns all across America. Because gray area wouldn't they Congress's they have not an unconstitutional agency and Get under control with that in mind and again They'll knock on your door and tell you if they choose to score that because the guy with the gun I'm not wrong about that this he had to actually vocalize it all out of balance That's what we are supposed to be the citizen in America balance against totalitarianism government enacting laws that are illegal or forcing things that aren't. So with that in mind, you know, again, if you don't want to go to jail and you want to carry a gun, it would be good to get a concealed carry. Don't worry about being on a list. They want to wipe out every American. And frankly, if anybody's ever bought a gun at a store... But don't worry too much about being on a list. But, you know, to talk against being on a list seems to be contrary to the very subject, because machine gun part or machine gun part, you're going to be on a list. Now, Let me ask a fine point here because, well, gee whiz, it sure seems to me like those guys that run gun stores, they have to keep records, right? Now, they don't have to, they don't have to divulge their records until they choose to their shop, right? With that in mind, we've established that plot line. Let's talk about gun fact bid under purse right. If I buy this gun away, but sometimes they'll call the guy back and say, yeah, you can, but that doesn't happen for gun parts. No, it doesn't. You can see a purchase. On the right, Mary. Sir, and by the man. First, the side of that same coin. There is no protection from the government as far as... are there. So that gun is... Is there... Someone were to go in, if the ATF were to go into a shop that sells guns. I care not about your sales of guns. I want to see about your gun that legal. So we have a bit of protection there. But again, you know, the guy with the gun makes the laws, doesn't he? And now you spend that kind of money on a fight. I have to think that those records of guns are subject to things are now but you guys you tell you sometimes be careful where you step watch where you're going check your six all of those things you know that your surrounding ambience ambiance but man I don't like to do another thing here because there are those this was a call to there are those that say well if I buy that plastic lower in it and it has the free positions on it it's just plastic what if I were just to take a Even that could be, you could get accused of modifying the gun. Am I wrong? But then the ATF is all about... We don't have to continue on this subject because there are other things I'm really glad we've got you here, Larry, because Supreme Court says we have the right to own guns and we could talk about the mayors and the governors that say no. The Supreme Court says you have the right to own. I promise that I would let you talk more. I'm serious right now. It's against, I think in their mind, a mayor that closeted in the safe. the activist base. He might just get elected. I think it's going to show the incompetence of... Well, I would ask you this. You wear a lot of what the gun owners have. I have to wear a lot of hats. And because of that I see a number of different people and thought lines. As example, I'm going to change homes. As example, Mars, that in it there's a guy sitting in front of Congress. And this is recorded in the history by the very film I'm referencing. And someone in Congress asked him about a computer program that can control the vote. And he says, oh yes, I wrote that program. And then he elaborated a little bit more about 5149. All they have to do is push a button and their candidate wins by 51%, which is so narrow a margin that people might even question, even if they know everybody they knew didn't. Well, I guess he must have won. See how that works? He sat in front of Congress. told everybody they have control of the vote and congress allowed that man to walk out of the house. Nobody told the sergeant of arms to arrest that man. Nobody questioned him. Oh, they did say, has this ever been worked? And he said yes. Has this ever been run in an election? Was the, has this ever been worked? So we know that the elections aren't, that the election, everyone from your local dog catcher on up to fearless leader in charge. A narrow election is We can move our people lastly. Exactly. Seemingly set in concrete. Get your contacts out again because we need to... The trade! You were working with me and now you're on the other side. You've got a 180. This is treason. For somebody else other than the gun owners actually. Actually that's right. Tell us something as we've said many times about why you need to join gun owners of America. Those are the mayors that before made it to be NRA members, guys. They were all jumping the gun ownership and jumped right into Bloomberg's lap when they thought that the Communists were making their big power play. And now that they see that the, they thought, in fact everybody did, remember, You had Spincher all of a sudden declaring that he is no longer a republirat, a rhino, but became a demican because it was believed that this was a big push towards final international communism in America, which it is still anyway. There's the war still going. But here's the thing, everybody got a chance to find out what that really means. And for those mayors, well now they're trying to come back into our camp and claim that they're pro firearms. But they already showed what they're really about because they knew what Bloomberg was up to when they joined him. They knew he wanted to grab all the guns. They thought they were just going to ride with the winners. You need to remember that. That little load of little hacks he just talked about in the NRA is a good example of what, again, the man he's trying to get away with. Larry, give out your numbers. How can we get hold of him when we want to after the program here? We're at Gunowners.org. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Please come up if you have any other announcements or any activities we need support. Thank you so much. It's been an easy day. Thank you. Scott, look. John, your number for night vision, please. That's number 231-79-6-8458. That's what? The Republic? Got it. To the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on and on. We are on the march. A nutritional alert. This alert includes all areas where dietary supplements are consumed. Are you swallowing a bunch of pills every day to get the proper nutrition? Are you sure it's the right nutrition? Well, set your mind at ease. With 90 plus nutrients, Veeamint is a complete liquid dietary supplement. 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