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Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, indianafreemtalkradio.com, and we're on AM&FM microstations, CB, base stations, and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the Holmberg Network on Eastern Seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida, from the bottom of Florida because you are going off of Mexico. headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both 3rd and 5th pit and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado. Waving the left coast, we turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi land and the Smoky East, slash the Blue Ridge, where the restaurant crew's grandma team's okay teams, the model grandma consortium brings us to golden spike. Don, it's gray, it's winter, it's cool, what's it like up there, and what's the day today, sir, what's jumping off the wall? Market is the sixth day of February, year of our Lord 2014. And you're right, it's February, it's cold, it's dark out now, and it'll be dark until the sun comes up. Hey, if you're looking for night vision, give me a call. All kinds of things are going on, you guys. I want to mention a couple of phone numbers here, or rather, a phone number in another place to go, because on occasion, we bring up Larry. Watson. He's been on the air with us. I don't know if I mentioned him yesterday at all during Weapons Wednesday, but you can call up Larry Watson and get in line because everything's backordered everywhere. He'll build you the cheapest, the entry-level .50 caliber bolt gun, the cheapest bolt gun on the continent in half inch BMG. His number is 952-471010. Again, 952-4710. 472-1010. That will get you over to Watson's Weapons. And I do believe you could go buter there at watsonswepons.com. And it's not a communications Tuesday, but we would like you to communicate that thought. Well, I heard about you guys on the intelligence report. That would be a real good thing sometimes in a lot of instances. And when we ask that, we'd kind of shoot up that signal flag or running the flare up the line there. You know how it works. And both of those are backwards. That was kind of done on purpose just to see if you were listening. The other thing is, just to see if you were listening, I did that kind of on purpose too. But hey, the other thing is the Sportsman's Guide. I don't know how long these are going to last and this came up today. This was brought to my attention today, Mark. And it is kind of a timely thing. I don't know how long it would take for delivery, but it'll probably still be cold by the time those four pairs of leather palmed winter shooting gloves and including the liners, you know, trigger finger gloves, this guide you guys. for 20 bucks for a pair. And you know that includes delivery. You can't beat that with three sticks. So you know right in the thick of the winter if your hands are cold and you want to shoot your gun well there's a uh we've we've just kind of you know I don't believe in coincidence but we've been talking about that as of late shooting your gun in the cold does your finger in a mitten or you know it's not going to fit in a mitten but in in your does your trigger finger in a glove fit inside the trigger guard without doing that accident large thing. We've talked about that as of late and here's a solution for it. This is the outer glove and the inner glove for pairs for 20 bucks you guys. I had to mention that Mark. I yield. Again, for everybody out there, number one sportsman's guide also check their sales and clearances guys because you never know what you're going to run into there. Clearances and close out slash sales. 5 pairs of those mittens for $20.00. 4 pairs, right? Forgive me. $5.00 a pair is what it is. Definitely those are a cold weather item you all need in your combat gear. We've talked about this before. They come with a set of liners and the shells, right? Oh yes. So for everybody out there, again, you're looking at a complete set. I know what the prices are for these things. That's actually pretty reasonable. And that's just barely off of wholesale, to be quite honest. and it includes delivery. They don't have the US trigger finger version. Prices have been up and down and it got cold. So everybody wants some. You know what I mean? And right now that's a very good choice. Another thing about those is again, zip lock bag them. If you're going to put them in your kit, I would put a pair in my popcorn pocket on the left side of my pants and put another pair in my field jacket. and then still carry my spares in the backpack itself. Again, it's a personal choice issue, but you got lots of popcorn pockets all over your garbage gear, you know, X6 pockets here or eight on the pants. You got four pockets on the field, Jay. You got four pockets on the battle blouse. Hell, you even got shoulder pockets. Well, you got places you can put stuff before you never did in the past. Well, you could if you sold them out, which we used to do. So, we got lots of room for the stuff. You just got to make sure you select the right. And the other thing to remember is a grammar string or large safety pins. Now, the safety pins work, but man, if one comes loose, have you ever noticed how they always seem to find a way to stick you? Yeah, just a point so again, they still use the safety pins, but remember that the US trigger finger mittens like most the others Around the country around the planet matter who makes them they have string hangers They have a way for you to tie a gram of string through your you know from one arm to the other over the shoulder Inside guys and you hang your mittens that way that way we don't lose it when you want take them off No problem, but you won't lose them. They're gonna drop them So just something to think about there Anyway, otherwise we look pretty good here. Don, just as a safety point, we're a quarter of the way through the hour. Technology available, you've got night vision, we're going to need it. A lot of people have been asking questions about it. In fact, I'm going to bring up some other things that came in in the mail today. How can we get hold of you and what do you have available that will fit on that picatinny rail if I want to put something on my weapon? Well, in chronological order there, the telephone number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. We can talk about goggles or gun sights. We can talk about that first generation gun sight. 308 capable, grab onto a picatinny or a weaver rail. It'll thumb screw down to both two fasteners. One on each end of the rail. and it is a purpose-built gun sight. It'll have a crosshair, again, it'll have integral rail, weight capable. I'll put that in your mailbox for $400. Why, just last year, that was $429. If you want to talk about that piece, give me a call. My number is 231-796-8458. We could go to a second generation, a green screen piece, like the aforementioned first generation piece. 308 capable, right near mailbox, $1,300. We could talk about third generation or we could talk about... Now, first, second or third generation doesn't have to be a gun sight. But you know what? You don't have to put a gun sight on a gun to turn it on and use it for a piece of night vision. The same thought line runs over to thermal. You know what? You don't have to use thermal at night. Green screen is kind of limited to nighttime or the amount of time you operate it with a pinhole or different minimum cover on. But thermal, you can use it round the clock to determine what is that over there. Is it warm enough to it might be alive? You know what I mean? Thermal comes in real handy to compliment a squad of green screen. What is that over there? And bring the thermal to bear and you might confirm that well, there's There could be something right there looking back at us. In fact, I think I just saw it move where you wouldn't see anything on the green screen. We've talked about that to a great extent, but one good example of what you might and might not see is the night vision video, you guys. I won't elaborate on the night vision video, but hey, summer and winter in the same location, same location in numerous levels of moonlight, other locations, animals, water, gunshots, in different ways from the side, from the front, looking at the target immediately to the right 100 yards away, only the target is immediately to your right and the shooter is 100 yards away. The night vision video will help you fill out a gee, I wonder what can it really, or I didn't know that kind of thought lines about night vision because it's really hard to purvey in a audio world, a visual medium. If you want to procure the night vision video for your yourself you guys $30 in an envelope, $30 money order to Nancy Kornke, that's K-O-E-R-N-K-E, again K-R, $30 to Nancy Kornke at post office box 194 in Dexter, Michigan where the postal zone is 1-3 again Nancy Kornke. post office box 194 Dexter, Michigan. PZ is 130. I'm pretty certain I got that right, Mark. I'm pretty certain I got that address right. The night vision video is pretty informative. Pat, cliche, if I do say more, I built it. So you can learn a lot from it, you guys. There was a lot of effort went into it. I can personally attest to putting hours on your device. We talk about If you get a piece of night vision, be it a viewer, a gun sight, be it thermal or green screen, take it out for at least five minutes a night for like a month. The reason being, try to do it in the same time frame. As example, if it's 10 o'clock at night, do it that same time across 30 day period. So the reason being, you'll see the full cycle of the moon, no moon to a full moon. And across that 30 days, you'll become rather familiar with the buttons, the adjustments, how it hangs or holds or faces. dinky little, the nuances that help you become adept at operating. Same thing goes for a whole bunch of other things that we've talked about. But, you know, a new piece of night vision every night for about 30 days is going to be a big help. Again, from the do with the full moon, what will it do with no moon and everything in between. And by that time, hey, you know what the bells and whistles will do, be it a gun sight or a viewer. If you want to talk to me about it, I'm not going to continue a long time about this with this thought line. But we could talk about thermal. We started talking about thermal even in the daylight. It's thermal. We've got a thermal, what the manufacturer calls a thermal flashlight. It emits no light. You hold it up to your eyes. They should just as well have called it a viewer because it's a bit confusing to call it a thermal flashlight. But I can put that in your mailbox for under $2,000 you guys. My number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. Thank you, Mark. Another thing here again, the question about utilizing the night vision on a 22. Now, one of the other questions is, would there be any effect because of say rapid fire? Would that create any kind of exotic or different effect from conventional center fire? I would think that the 22, even though it is a sharp cracker, I doubt that it's going to cause any significant problems over a standard 223 or an AK round, correct? I have talked with the manufacturer about that, they don't see any problem there. The question about a 12 gauge is, it'll live on top of a 12 gauge also, but we've talked about eye relief and lighting up your eye with the green light, lighting up your face with the green light from the device. We've talked about that. A 22 would be better for recoil and bringing the ability to bring the boot. the eye cup right to your face and concealing as much light as possible. Yes. You were talking about the infrared flashlight. Yeah. And I had security cameras around the house and they use infrared. Their beam only goes 50 yards, or 50 feet, I'm sorry, 50 feet. And I'd like to get, it seems to me, is there any way to find another light bulb or a red type of light? Do you have a piece of night vision? No, I don't have any night vision. Okay. Security cameras with night vision. I would have answered that. I would have answered that saying, take your piece of night vision out beyond the 50 yards and turn on the illuminator and see if that becomes a range increase for your home installation. If you had an illuminator that you could turn out that way, that would be the tell. The next best thing to do would be go to a radio shack and for like $1.97 you can pick up an infrared LED. You might have to have some sort of gate between your battery and it so you don't go as soon as you hook up a 1.5 volt battery to it. You know a gate, you know what I mean. I'm not an electrician but for lack of a better term some way to regulate the ohms. You might want to talk to the guy at radio shack about it and he probably had the dinky little device there. Then you set it up to your battery. We've talked about building these into dead flashlight bodies, one or more of them. If that works for you, you take that out and deploy it. Go back and or have someone watching your display. Hey, can you see me now? Kind of like can you hear me now? But then you could forward deploy those. We've talked about different ways to have them out there and even they're not burning all the time until someone trips a switch. That's a good question. We haven't brought that one to the hour for home security and extending its visibility range. Thank you. I could just put one of these LED to shine a little further. There's two different ways they're doing this. Actually, what they're doing is bumping up the camcorder light device in that computer-wise and they're running basic infrared camera. If you are running an infrared camera, this will be your advantage. If it is a simple system, what they are calling in the night vision industry now a white phosphor screen system, the white phosphor screen system you guys, it will show you a black and white screen like a black and white television. But that system isn't an image intensifying tube like night vision. It is Basically, the guts from a camcorder, small portions thereof. I'm told that maybe by the end of next year, there will be no more first generation green screen. That will replace first generation green screen. Well, wait a minute, they qualify that down. In other words, the Phosphor White is the only thing that's going to be available? For first generation, I'll still be able to get second and third and fourth generation. There won't be any first generation Russian screens anymore, Russian tubes anymore. Now, we will remember, guys, we've talked about this before, what's going to end up happening, what you're going to want to do is that white is not conducive to night vision operations if you have to break away from that night vision device. So, the next logical thing is now we're going to go to the other end of the scope, kind of like we did with other equipment, and come up with a red or a green lens to go over the white screen. That's what I would do. So, it's just something to take into consideration because the white, you can make it work. It's not a problem. But, I can see that creating more illumination that will be noticeable or telltale. Much faster, yes. That's the other thing with light discipline. This is a military matter, guys. Light discipline is especially critical. I'm sorry, jump in there and continue what you're doing. That's a critical factor. I just was made aware of this week. This is up on Weapons Wednesday, but hey, we do a whole lot of things. Sometimes, different questions, thank you for prying this out, because the thought line, the question brought this thought line out. We probably won't see any more first generation green screen gunsights or viewers. There will be other companies that will melt away the new old generation tubes. My source, A-T-N, is basically one of the reasons I run with them, you guys, is in a number of ways, this product does so much more. There are warranties on first generation the Russian tubes. There's no such thing as a first generation American tube anymore. Every first generation piece has a Russian tube in it, even if it says it was made in Israel. They'll warranty a Russian tube for two years, whereas Houdowel and some of the others, you know, I'm being a little bit fisicist there, will only warranty the same tube, well, for only a year. So, you know, that will bubble up on the warranty. I really like that and I'm happy to offer that to you. One other question. Just thinking about the project, I'll see if I can get a little bit more further down range. I was thinking about a 300 wind mag because I don't have deep pockets. A 50 is a little out of me and a 338 is pretty much out of my league, but a 30 is very available. It's out there and it does go along. What is for the best bag to go and get or build something myself to get out there, get to the 1,000 yard? A lot more people getting real happy with that caliber as far as manufacturers. The AR-30 that was originally built in .30 caliber, that's in .338 Lapua, it's in .408 Chi-Tech, and I do believe it is in .300 Wind Mag. Yes, I'm certain it is. And you know what, you can get that excellent Armalite brake on the front of that gun, and you can shoot that .300 Wind Mag gun all day long. Just bring some earplugs. and be certain to throw down a mat in front of you because those sideways blowing breaks, they kick up some dust around you. But again, every break is going to blow sideways or straight down and straight up and you're going to disturb the ground one way or another. Otherwise you're going to absorb that recoil. You don't want to do that with a 300 win mag all day. No matter, you can sit here and tell me how tough you are. But your shoulder is going to be hurting at the end of the day. Oh yeah. You don't have a price range on that arm of light, do you? I've seen it in the magazine and SWAT magazine put a really great review on that arm of light. Oh yeah. One of the cool things I like about it, I tried to talk Mark Westrom into building the 50 with a magazine well so it would become a bolt-action repeater. But he says, no, that would weaken the receiver too much. He'd have to do so much more to it around there, which is a good point. But when you take it down to 30 and the smaller calibers, there's a magazine well in that gun, isn't there? There's a five-shot magazine well in that gun. That makes it a bolt-action repeater. One of the things about most of these tubular 50s is that scaling them down, I don't think they'd have any problem with. If we're looking at dropping down into the belted mags or into any of the lower end heavies, you could scale the gun down quite dramatically. That's something we've talked to everybody about, and everybody hesitated on this, and I believe they missed their mark by a good three years, because I had a conversation well more than that four years ago now. I talked to everybody that we were discussing heavy guns with. I said, you know, whoever gets down into and scales down their rifle package, especially the ones that will drop on an AR, if they can scale it down so it'll do any of the standard military calibers or like 338 WIN, 300 WIN MAG, 7mm Remington MAG. Now, those are more common. The 7mm is not as common as it used to be because there's others. They have like an 8mm Remington now, too. But any of those, and in fact it wouldn't be a big deal because the barrel's not a big deal, the design's so simple it's ridiculous. In reality, the biggest issue with 50s is the energy involved, which is where again looking at, again, taking and altering the design means that other issues have to be brought into play to reinforce the material that's been taken from the receiver tube. I know that's what they were probably concerned with, Don, but uh... just a little solution here i was talking about this morning and again the idea you don't have a lot of money not a three hundred win mag but uh... if you go to copes distributing dot com copes distributing dot com and then go to their uh... weapons sale they've got a gun sale going on it's up it's close out it's a close out come on all i hate when this page does this i got right here close up firearms okay Now they've got the Mosberg bolt guns ready to go, 308 NATO, or 308 Winchester, slash 762 NATO, $225 apiece, brand new out of the box. Now that's a good, that's a good, that's a good price, that's a good tack driver too. Now in this case it's their Trek Bolt action, for everybody out there listening, they have two guns they offer from Mosberg and they're both $225. I don't know how many they have, I don't know if they only have just one. But well, hold on here. Okay, they're still listing that they have it. It's a blowout Mossberg-Treck bolt-action rifle .308 Mossberg bolt-action centerfire rifle .308 Winchester caliber .22 inch free-float barrel button-rifled barrel 1 in 10 twist 4 plus 1 integral top-loading magazine recessed muzzle crown. That's a big plus feature on this rifle by the way. This is something I've talked about before. It recessed a recessed crown inside the barrel. You can't damage the crown short of just wear and tear. There were bullets going down range. There's nothing that's going to affect the crown in that way when it's a back set crown. Black synthetic stock, blue barrel, weaver style scope base, 42 inches overall length, 13 and a quarter inch length for the pull, and weighs 7 pounds. So it's not super heavy. It is in a 308 caliber which will reach 1000 yards comfortably. You can pretty well do what you want with it that you could do with not, you won't get quite out there with the same energy as the 300 wind. But $225 I'll guarantee is more in your wallet range. Yeah. And it's a battle rifle caliber so that's a big plus too. Well that's what I was looking at going to three because I have a savage. It's pretty, you know, it shoots right in the one inch group and it's still got, you know, pretty much all the factory put, you know, a good stock up. I'd probably get that group down. Is it a 300 Savage? No, no, it's a 308 Savage. Oh, a 308 Savage bolt gun, an attack gun. Yes. Oh, why do you want to change? Oh, I just want to move up. I just stick with what you got. Seriously, unless you want to build another rifle next to it. I mean, hey, you know, you know how it is. Yeah, the big thing there is, I'll tell you what, you might find a better price on a Ruger Model 77 in 300 win or watch for again some of the old Winchester's laying around at the gun shows. But the thing is, you see the problem with those two with that category, see, flinchchester and remington guns from the 60s when, you see, the 300 wind was out there to compete against the 7mm remington mag. That's why those two were so famous. And the only thing that fuddled for remington initially is they went with the 2 groove micro groove barrel, which was a great idea. It came off of their experience with the 03 springfield. And they had a tack driver, the whispering death there. Okay. But when they went over to do the original two-groove 7mm Remington Magnum guns, the thing they also wanted to do was get into stainless. And everybody initially raved, oh my goodness, no maintenance and they can't rust. And Remington's had a rust problem for years because people, but that was maintenance because people didn't fix the gun, didn't clean it. But, uh, Remington was notorious for a few of their designs having rust issues. Now, they're gas guns. They changed their entire gas line out for that reason because people weren't doing maintenance. So, the weapons would go in the closet and they'd rust up. Then you had to spend about $58 to change the whole gas block front end of the gun. Well, because of this, there was kind of a taint on Remington in the late 50s that they wanted to get rid of. So, they worked the stainless steel to what they thought was perfection. Problem. Anybody who gets a Magnum gun wants to play Dirty Harry, right guys? And, and Dirty Harry with the bolt gun. This is the most powerful rifle in the world. Well, what they would do is load the capacity and then some, right? Turns out that the Remington stainless barrels that they developed were good for about 2,000 rounds. The stainless they chose wasn't hard enough. There were issues with machining only not not finished. But the choice of the process used with the two-groove system and they started to slop out very quickly in about 2,000 rounds and they dropped off real quick after that. The micro-grooving just wore right out of the gun. Mostly because at that time people were experimenting with all these new super-hot powders. They were driving the action to its maximum pressures. Oh, and let's not forget they were experimenting with bronze bullets and all kinds of stuff like we see now on the 50 caliber range. Because everybody wanted to outdo that 300 win mag and then the other 300 win mag guys they'd want to outdo the 7mm Remington guns. So Remington got into a catatonic fart situation with the rifle but only for about a year, less than that. They rebarreled guns that people wanted to have rebarreled from the stainless to the standard carbon barrels. However, what that did, and this is why I was bringing up to where I was just talking about a moment ago, both the 300 wind guns that are original and the 7mm if they have the stainless bill are worth a small fortune now. So you can't just walk into an older gun in those calibers typically without seeing the price go, oh my god, I can't even buy it, I can't even touch that gun. I don't want to touch it because I don't want to break it. Whereas these Mosbergs, one thing I like about this guy is these little bolt guns, this is a sweet little bolt gun. Mosberg is not famous for their bolt guns, but every once in a while, it's like a sine wave. They'll come out with some, you know, centerfire rifles, and they'll kind of disappear for a while, and then they'll come back with some more centerfire rifles. Smith and Wesson, they're basically on the same level as Smith and Wesson. Smith and Wesson came out with a whole beautiful family of rifles in the 70s. and if you've got them, don't sell them. It's like they're pump guns. They make great pump guns. If you got them, don't sell them. Just if you want something else, go buy some more. Guns are for buying, not for selling. But this little rifle right here has all the features you need to make it a tactical that would compete with that Savage you've got. And $225, the only thing that's missing is the scope. So that would be another consideration. I didn't see any 300 wins. As soon as you asked, I didn't look, but in the sales section, guys, They have a couple of 270s that are fairly reasonably priced. They've got a couple of 223 short stroke rifles that are fairly reasonable. But these Mosbergs are the best priced. If you were to ask me if I were to look at the sales page they've got here, I would buy that Mosbergen 308 and right below it there is a double barrel set. It's a Remington 870 for $350 with a broach barrel and with a breaching barrel. You know, the tactical barrel for blowing out hinges and doors. And then it's got a slug barrel. I take the breaching barrel off and sell it. I take the standard slug barrel, leave it on the gun. I leave the stock that's on the gun, the shotgun the way it is. And the money I'd make back would make that a very decent priced 870. I wouldn't keep the breaching barrel. Somebody will want it real bad because they've seen it in a magazine or something. But 99% of what we're going to do, we'd never have an application for it. Doesn't mean I don't like spare barrels, but I'd pick up another field barrel for the gun real quick. And then I'd pick up another extension if I needed it. But again, take a look at that. You might want to go through and see what they've got. Nothing fancy on the pistols. It isn't like $700, $800. It's like, oh, hell, I can do better. But on the rifles, there's a few goodies there. And again, that's copesdistributing.com. And that's their closeout in firearms section. Sounds like a good idea. Yeah, otherwise, we need to start talking to Watson's weapons about that, about the idea of doing a scaled down. I'd love to see these guys do a 2-2-3 version of their rifle. I really would. And in fact, you know what would really be neat? A 223 bolt action that has a magazine weld takes an AR-15 magazine. That would be the perfect combo. Now you're cooking with gas. Yeah. Then the neat thing is that their rifle could easily handle the action. And one other thing about the .223 that's really neat, Don, and everybody else listening out there, guys, the .223 is just a scaled-down version of the .30-06 and .30-06. Well, the .50 cal is just a scaled-up version of the .06. Yep. So all the dimensions are already there. All they have to do is tweak down instead of tweaking up. Yep. It would be an excellent solution. The reason I like this is because there's no paperwork and then you turn around and after you get that little 223 rifle going in that action with a nice little picatinny rail on the roof or night vision or whatever, I could turn around rather than even going with his, you know, if you go with his, his solution is to use for like with his 50s and AR-15 lower. Well, all I have to do is make magazine slot and make sure that it lines up properly and doesn't the AR-15 lower already have the magazine well? Oh, yeah. Well, that would make for a nice little a sweet little very inexpensive .223 rifle in my mind. A straight receiver, a simple turn bolt, very crude, very simple, very effective, and a bull barrel about 22 inches long. Maybe with a thread on the end for a flash hider But I'd make the barrel as heavy as the dimension of the flash hider when it's on the air 15 so when it's screwing it look like it was a natural extension of the curvature of the barrel moving toward the front and That would be a tack driver. I would I would grab that in a heartbeat and you know what remember that upper is not a firearm Hmm, and there's a lot of barrels out there laying around for a reasonable price right now So, 223 barrels. So, for a research package, he could do this within a very short period of time. In fact, with CNC Machinery, all he would be doing is scaling back, confirm his dimensions, cutting the bolt, cutting the bolt face, doing everything else, knocking it down to 223. No big deal. So simple, it's ridiculous. Anyway, but just an idea, or maybe we should throw it in again, Dom. Hint, hint, hint. I'll work on that. It's the world. It's the world the way it's said. The world is waiting for this solution. Now the other thing there is again, the .300 Wind Mag would be an option .338 Lapua obviously. The .338s and the .400 series cartridges are basically existing in their newest forms only because of the original elephant rounds that the bullets came from. And they're all good designs. They've all been perfected to the nth degree in their first generation, in their first incarnations before the new casings came out. And in fact, almost all of the belted magnums were in the caliber, in the basic calibers, as far as bullet dimension, that we're talking about. And 300 still the leftover from that. 300 Weatherby, 300 Windmag, both of those are copacetic with each other. One can be built to the other as needed, and back and forth if you needed brass. Something to think about there. The other thing about 300-WIN is the US military has it in service. We have many cans of it that came from the sniper service. Guys, a lot of our people have carried stuff home and there's a lot of it laying around that we got that's Mill Ball 300-WIN mag. In fact, if you look at equipping part two, If you look carefully on the tables, and I wondered how many people would notice this, you might notice the ammo cans that are on the table. Well, the ammo cans are the nomenclature on the can matches what was in the can. Hint, hint, hint. You'll notice that we covered the lot numbers up back when we did that. Hint, hint, hint. Why would we cover the lot numbers up? Think about it. Because that 300 mag wasn't that 300 mag load wasn't out around the countryside except in one place and all the people shooting those They're all our people Everybody understand that Yeah So pay attention see sometimes we leave things in there are things that are in plain sight and the curiosity was to see if anybody was Actually paying attention sometimes to little details you see So, just something to think about there. 300 win. You know the other thing, I don't, Don, you heard what I was talking about. Oh, wait a minute, no. There is a bunch of brass that's become available up in grayling. Right, tons. Yes, tons, guys, tonnage. You know, I wanted to address this, something we talked about before, but I also thought this would be kind of fun. You know, 50 caliber blank brass, they've got a ton of it up there, okay? Now if that brass will will form out and I don't think there'd be any problem The only thing is you're gonna have to remit down and shorten it by you know, you know about a mill Because it never it's a rosette crimp and they have to have a little there's a little more meat there not much But it's basically one step where they don't shorten the case to two ball length and They don't they don't have to because they need the extra for the rosette when they crimp it to make it so it's a blank round Okay That brass could be used for ball, but if we had a bunch of it that was questionable, this allows for us to indulge in a straight case shotgun shell or to go to a straight case Sabo, but with a 50 caliber base, but with a 51 or 60 caliber, right around there. and doing it as a sable that would be fun that would be something interesting to do it would be a straightforward single shot bolt gun using a modest madi designer whatever the other reason is uh... to develop the case now before we get into a battlefield situation because guys were going to have to be able to recover we will recover now not me We will be recovering material. If we have material that is damaged, what can we do with it? In other words, how can we cycle it down with minimal time turnaround and make it a viable piece of battle, part of a battle implement? Well, one of the first things with all these cases, if their throat's damaged or their shoulder is badly damaged, cutting them down to the next case that makes sense. With .308 and .30-06, you can, well, .30-06, we can cut down and then reshape to .308. Everybody understand that? There's more than enough meat left if you cut it off at the shoulder to make a .308 round out of that .06 round. But, let's say it's a .308, we can cut it down to .44 or .45 automag. If that splits, we can cut it down to .45 ACP. If it starts to go bad from there, we then use it to make the base center for the activating round for a 40 millimeter grenade case. So, we could recycle this stuff to the nth degree or take it to that degree depending upon what we have a need for at that time. But nothing, that is a manufactured item, is going to go back into the trash bin right away. So, that's the way we need to be thinking. Remember, your damage 223 brass becomes rechambered, or forgive me, reformed Tokarev brass. Everybody remember that. Your 223 cases will make excellent boxer primed reloadable Tokarev pistol cases. Go take a look at the dimensions of the 223 base. It's the only thing that that bastard case will work with out of the box. Just something to think about. Now you can kind of monkey screw it to 380 auto. And you can work it down to 32 ACP with a little more effort. But, 7.62x25 Tokarev, oh, you can take two to three cases and work them all day, kids. And you can make it a hot submachine gun load because the base of a rifle case is thicker than a pistol case. So you can form it down and you've got basically a fire-breathing dragon right there. So, just things to consider. Anyway, I'm sorry, go ahead. Is the Tokarev... Is it a 7.62 like ours or is it more like the... No, no, the Tokarev pistol is 7.62x25. It's the Tokarev slash the broom handle round. Right, right, but I'm talking about is the dimension more like the AK rounds or the... No, no, it's a pistol round. No, no, 7.60x25 is a handgun slash pistol round. The bullet itself is... Yes, it's the standard Russian spec for bullet diameter. Remember, they did that intentionally. All of their bullet tool... Forgive me, all their barrel tooling is one tool fits every barrel. So what are... uh... if you were to uh... for your own bullets you know i'd like are thirty cover bullets with all the past bullets you could cast all day and lead for that without a problem yes uh... of the other thing remember is even if you have a even if you uh... if you oversize slightly you're gonna bullet swage everything if you're smart just because it is a semi auto gun i wanna make sure it keeps working i don't need a malfunction with my it with that particular gun one of the best loads to use for that though for You know because we're 3.08, they're 3.9, 3.10, okay. One of the solutions is what I've mentioned many times before, one of the best loads for the 7.62x25 that is cheapy. It's a semi-jacketed bullet. It was 90 grain to 100 to 110 grain. They're made by Hornady and they're made by Spear and they were built for the M1 carbine. and they work flawlessly in a broom handle and they work flawlessly in a Tokarev. And it's a called a Plinkster bullet. You'll find them listed most all the bullet companies. They have variations. I think Hornetty's is called a Plinkster. You might have to slide me the microphone. It's been a few years since we've bought them in quantity. But both companies make them. It's a semi-jacketed projectile. And the reason is with the carbine it has to have a semi-jacket for seeding. But it doesn't need to be full jacket to work. So the advantage of this for the company was that much less copper they had to use for the jacket. Now on the other hand, when it hits something, the other thing about a semi-jacketed load, the front is soft lead and the other half is a jacket with a cup. Do you think it stays 30 caliber when it hits? It's really kind of funny because it's not just a soft point, it's like the whole half of the projectile is soft lead forward. And when it hits, it mushrooms out to about a good 40 caliber if it hits something hard, like a bone. So you really, really, really don't want to get hit with it either, considering that it's not coming out of a carbine typically. But it will comfortably operate in, again, in the 7.62x25 Tokarev, or if you need to reload, for instance, Broomhandle Mauser, or if you need to reload 30 Luger. It actually works quite well with 30 Luger also. And the bullet weight is optimal. So it's a solution when you're dealing with certain pistols that are not completely obsolete, but there's not that much ammunition laying around like there used to be. These people find 30 Luger everywhere. I mean literally. And Suller below, Silly Billit, S&B, they still were making it because in Italy, for instance, they can't have any military gun, but they can't have it in its military caliber. So, for instance, you still see a lot of 30 caliber Luger pistols in Europe because all 30 caliber Luger is is 9mm neck down to 30 caliber. So it's a stepped like a little baby rifle round and it is a it's a biter. It'll put nice neat holes and stipple your left right up and down and you really don't want to get shot by it because it's all little baby Magnum round. So, anyway, before we go any farther, and again I want to mention this, Dom, before we leave today, guys at Grayling coming up on the 03-07-2014. There are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 lots of ammunition of cartridge cases coming through Grayling. The event number for all of them is 9316. I'll repeat that. The event number for all of these lots is 9316. For our guys that are listening that have the reloading company, you're probably going to want to jump on this and find out more. Go to gotogovliquidation.com, govliquidation.com, www.govliquidation.com. the event number for all of them is nine three one six but the lot number for nine millimeter uh... let's see two thousand five hundred pounds at nine millimeter cases uh... is five six zero zero uh... fourteen hundred bar yeah fourteen hundred pounds of seven six two nato blank five six we all need to prepare ourselves you might have the food war Oh, that's okay. And we do still need to prepare ourselves, which is why we're getting the brass. Yes. Anyway, 556-BLANK. The item numbers, let's put it this way. You guys can look up what they are by doing this. The event number is 9316. Keep your pen handy. Now listen up. The lot number is 5600. 5601. 5603. 5604. 5605. 5606. and 5607. Everything else has to be shredded, these do not. Okay, so there again you got 50 cals, 762 ball, 556 ball and 9 millimeter ball brass along with some blank brass too with the other lots. The bid date is 03-07-2014 and again that's at govliquidation.com. Look it up for Grayling, Michigan. If you find it, find everything available through Grayling, you'll find the brass located there. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Now guys, you're going to need night vision technology. We are going into a war here. Before anything else happens, you need to outfit yourself properly. Deal with a friend rather than a stranger. Don, your number for night vision. Give it out twice and close us, please. That number is... against two three one seven nine six eight four five eight thank you mark god bless god bless america rich man I ain't got no better be sweat on this old collar that's my PhD