Mark Koernke discussed weapons, preparedness, and tactical considerations on Weapons Wednesday. He reviewed firearms and accessories from vendors including Sarco (FN FAL barrels, Tokarev holsters, M60 parts) and COPES Distributing (closeout rifles including a Mossberg .308 bolt-action for $225 and a Remington 870 shotgun). Koernke shared his personal rifle preferences, emphasizing the M14/M1A for long-range accuracy and marksmanship discipline, and discussed various calibers and historical rifles. He recommended airsoft training aids for muscle memory development and addressed winter firearms maintenance and lubrication. A caller named Duffy raised concerns about armored police vehicles with ballistic protection, prompting discussion of armor capabilities, penetration, and appropriate counter-measures.
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Don, what's it like up in your neck of the woods, and what's the date today, sir? Market is the fifth day of... February, year of our Lord 2013, beautiful day at work today. Cold is to be expected for this time of year and as mentioned earlier in the day, hey, all of that water underneath the Mackinaw Bridge is frozen out from one that are bridged to the other. And Traverse City, Traverse Bay there, that hasn't happened since like 2009. I think then they said it hasn't happened in about nine years, so it's about year 2000 before that. So it's cold. So I'm going to say, call up Al Gore and ask him about that global warming thing on today, the fifth day of February 2014. But it is a particular day and just to be easy on the extractor, we're just going to put the magazine in the magazine well and touch that slide release and I got me a 1911 here just raring to go, but you know what, it's minus one in the magazine so the magazine comes out, down goes the, down and back it goes into the magazine. and the magazine goes back in the nineteen eleven we can tell everybody it is weapons one state the perimeter is secure and you know there's plenty more where that came from and that means we can offer equal opportunity coercive force and we will uh... what we got a whole bunch of stuff i want to touch on here don and or again it's weapons wednesday guys First of all, I'm going to go back to e-circoinc.com. We're already there for a lot of you, but it's e-circoinc.com to the front page. Now, you know I mentioned that FNFAL barrel, right, Don? Oh, yeah. Well, in the time since they posted the first one, they have the barrel both with the bipod grooves and without. So for those of you who are going, well Mark, I want it so I can use my bipod. Well, congratulations. They're the same price. They're both brand new old issue barrels, guys. Original new chrome lined FN or FALFN contract barrels cut for bipod. Found a few in the warehouse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. You know, this is Sarco, guys. They all they do is they move another door and go, yeah. haven't been in here in thirty years and look at all the goodies that cool that's right like a wine cellar these are brand new never install barrels with chrome lining gas porthole is drilled but without the gas block now that's not a problem because with all these f and f a l k it's the gas blocks are coming with and they've been chopping the barrels but the gas block and everything is where it's supposed to be all the inbuilt kits somebody mentioned this to me in a quick spike uh... through the system here between hours and said that the in-bill kits, it was horrible because the barrels of Don were brand new and they chopped and lopped them. But everything is there guys, so if you have the bipod model, they have a barrel for you. If you don't want or need the bipod, they have one without the grooves. So you're all set and they're both $140 a piece and to be quite honest, for an original chromed FN FAL barrel like this that is a very reasonable price I would normally say, ooh it's a hundred and forty dollars well the barrels are what's hard to get so they dug them out of the woodwork they found them in the back room and their new issue these are original new chrome lined FAL FN contract barrels these are contract barrels guys not cut for bipod and still the same price whichever way you go that's fine However, there's something else. Scroll down to the bottom of the front page. Now these are kind of neat and they're a knock off of what the Germans did in World War II with their airborne Luger holsters. At the bottom of the page, if you have a Tokarev pistol, oh I know everybody listening out there probably has at least one, if you have the Tokarev pistol, for $12.95 they have the Tokarev minimalist communist holster with mag pouch. Now these are in the tan. They're in actually the white, although it's a standard color for the Romanian Bulgarian leather. I've got hundreds of the Macarov and also the CZ-62 holsters, literally virgin. Okay, and the color is standard. Well, these look to be slightly used, if not brand new, but stored. Again, they are, let's see, it's called, nicknamed the Gunbrah, only one included. 2 shown to show the 2 different styles. In other words, if I show you a picture, don't tell me I'm selling you 2 for the price. You get 1 for $12.95 a piece, which you can't beat for the price. But guys, if you didn't get a holster for your Tokarev, this is a skeletonized holster, but it does come with the mag pouch attached. Which means for those of you who are looking for a strap down quickie to put in your 510 program, maybe you got five of those tow cribs, you bought them back when they were $79.95 a piece. You probably didn't get them with a holster. They may have come with mags, they may not. They probably have mags, but you're going to have to confirm the type depending on what country, you know, national origin your towcraft came from. But the holsters are universal. These are right-hand holsters. They're the skelatai, so they've got the little cup for the muzzle down at the bottom. They've got a cross strap and, of course, a breech grip strap. They've got one strap that the grip strap of course snaps to. But these are nice little holsters for $13. You really can't beat them. They're at the bottom of the page. Now they also have the holster without the magazine pouch for $9.95. So you can get a stripped version for $10 or you can get one with a mag pouch which I would recommend. for thirteen dollars okay for a few dollars more they do also have other the other talker of mags by mag uh... holsters you know slash mag pouch and holster combo uh... listed on the page now they also in the middle of page and sixty receiver rail sets for a hundred dollars and m sixty trunnions not completed but all the critical parts finished for a hundred seventy five dollars now let me point something out At one time the Trunnion was the restricted item on the M60 but that has not been the case because the part that they changed the specs for restrictions years ago. And it's another part that is the restricted part which they are not offering. Nobody is offering those. But what's cute is the Trunnion is the most complicated part of the M60 and these of course they are 90% or more finished only need minor finish machining or cleaning up. All major operations are complete. These are actually better than the ones we previously had in stock. So if you're looking for M60 junk and you need a trunnion, that is the critical part, by the way. As far as I'm concerned, the rest is all, you know, could be hammered together in a hundred different ways and countries have done it. $175. It's all on the front page of Sarco, e-sarcoinc.com. The there's some other items you take a look see if it's of value to you But I wanted to touch on something else and copes Distributing now if you could have a close-out section on firearms nowadays. I guess you got to be doing pretty good but There is an offering go to copes distributing, you know, I always love close outs and you know sales, right? Well, in the catalog you get a firearms, but they have a close up. Make sure I get this right for you. Hold on, forgive me for just a second here. If you go to COPES Distributing, they have close out firearms. When you get to the close out firearms, scroll down just a little bit to the second line. Now, we haven't talked about this rifle very much. I mentioned it about, I think, six months ago. Mossberg, which everybody usually is familiar with their shotguns, every so often they come out with rifles. Now, they're like Smith and Wesson. They'll produce a good rifle, but it's a plain Jane, nothing fancy. I will shoot you with it and Bambi will die. Or anything else you shoot with it. Okay? Now, interestingly enough, of all the weapons in the closeout page, there are two that I would pick up if I were looking for weapons right now. Now, they've got nagats, but everybody's got nagats. This is the .308 rifle. Now, they also have it in .270. They're $225 apiece, brand new in the box. Okay? This is a blowout Mosberg-Treck bolt-action rifle in .308. It is $225 and that is a hell of a good price for a .308 bolt action American made gun. It's .308 Winchester, 22 inch free floating barrel, button rifled barrel, 1 in 10 twist, let's see, 4 in 1 integral top loading magazine, recessed muzzle crown. Now remember I talked about recessing the crown before? Don and we talked about this on the air. This is not done by every rifle company, but if it's done, it's going to take a long time for any wear, tear, or beating to damage the crown on that rifle. Okay, that rifle with a recessed crown, I really, for the life of you, for your shooting life of that weapon, you'll probably never have to worry about that weapon slopping out. And if it did, you would do exactly what they've already done, but you backset the rifling by another quarter inch. A good gunsmith, all he would do is backset the crown a little bit more internally, and it's good for another 100,000 rounds. Okay? Maybe not that many. You've got to know what their barrel is, and I don't really care because for the price, for $225, this is an American-made bolt action accuracy wheel firearm. This is a supremacy weapon. Now it is set up with let's see 40. It's 42 inches overall length 13 and a quarter inch length for the pole Weight of the rifle is a whopping seven pounds. Oh, no, if we can carry that Mmm. In other words, it's actually very light rifle for being a 308 But I believe it's polymer stocks is what they went with on this thing. You might want to, for some smaller shooters, put a Pacmar stop on that, a buck stop on that. Oh, it's already got a recoil pad, a nice one guys. This is a nice, simple, tactical rifle. And for $225, it's American, it's Mossberg. and it's in .308. Now they also have it in .270 in their closeouts. And considering what you're seeing out there, now remember I've talked about there's some really nice little .223 rifles out there right now and again they're a good choice. If you're committed to .223 and you got a lot of it, then a .223 bolt gun, well they've got one in here actually, it's an Axis for $304. They have several of them and they're on markdown. But That .308 Mosberg would be my first choice and then right below it on the next column guys, remember what I said about this, they've got a Remington 870 used with two barrels for $350. I don't know if they have several of these done. It looks like it's a cop shop gun and the reason I say that is because it has a breaching barrel on it. with the, you know, again, the serration, you know, at the end of the barrel plus the cleats so that you dig into the wood, pull the trigger, and you don't blow the end of the barrel out, right? Okay. Now I have no use for that. I really don't. I don't plan on blowing anybody's doors out. I'll just go straight through the place with the heaviest thing I've got when the time comes. And I don't want to waste that kind of time with, you know, process. I'm not worrying about no knock search warrants and stuff like that. I'm not into the business of thieving from people the way the uniform slobs are, okay? But for $350 that's as cheaper Remington 870 as you're going to buy because here's the thing it comes with the other barrel the barrels an 18.5 inch breech barrel the other one is a Is a standard slug barrel it sounds like okay shotgun Magnum okay, blah blah blah see if it would two barrels One and one fully rifle barrel yeah there we go okay now. Here's what I do I buy that for 350 and I would take the breech barrel off, I would put the standard rifle barrel on, I take the breech barrel, put it on eBay or sell it at a gun show for $100 or $125, whatever somebody wants to pay me for it, and then I'd have an 870 for under $250 or under $225 depending on what I sell that barrel for. Now it's cool because yes, it's nice to have a spare barrel, but that particular one for me No, only because again I want the barrel sealed, I don't need any additional flash or flare to my face. For combat tactical purposes it's going to be venting in all directions and that isn't good for my night vision, my natural night vision. I'd rather keep the flare forward. If I was going to do anything with it, I'd actually have a bigger cone flash hider just to direct more to the front if I was worried about anything. Anyway, it's an interesting idea, but there are two weapons there, one after the other. That Mosberg for .225, I highly recommend. It's a nice, smooth, simple weapon. The other is that 870. Between the two, you'd actually, for a reasonable price, be putting a nice gun combo together for a new shooter or somebody who's interested in, you know, again, trying to be properly armed. The 870 is a fine shotgun. In fact, one of the best shotguns on the market, period, even with all the new modifications. The only thing they've done with newer guns is cheap them out with more stampings. The 870, there's barrels out there by the bushel, there's bolts out there by the bushel. Every variation you can imagine in stocks and stuff have been built for it. So this particular gun dock comes with a thumbhole type tactical stock in OD Green. So it's actually all dressed out, ready to go to town if you want to. I like the thumbhole stocks only because it offers more support in general with the weapon. Again, through COPESdistributing.com, then go to their closeout firearms. Send the scroll at the top of the page. So those are the two things that again, Sarco, if you go to COPES of course, COPES is the one, COPESdistributing.com, then go to their closeout page. Everything else, four, five, six hundred dollars an item. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, yes, that was pretty cool, I like that. And of course they do have negots for 125 apiece. Now the only other thing they have in here that I thought was interesting, but We're talking $364 for a Taurus 82S 38 special 4 inch basically a Model 10 knockoff. It's a nice gun and brand new in the box so that's why the price is where it is. But if you look around you can find some nice used Model 10s or Tauruses or Rossies for a lot less. All the other bolt guns in here are twice the price of that Mosberg and while I do like the Thompson Center Venture guns, you know bolt guns, I can buy two of those Mosbergs in .308 for the price of one of the TCs in .308. I'm going to tell you which one I'd go with. I'd go with the Mosberg. Why? More guns out there, guys. So, it's a decent weapon. And by the way, if you like 270, they've got them in 270 for the same price. Those two are offered as close outs. The Mosberg Trekbolt in 270 and the Trekbolt in 308. And that's KOPUS distributing. Go ahead. I'll paraphrase Warren Zivon there and say, it's hard to flank your foe when you've only got one gun. Exactly. We're going to share, man. Not my first choice, sir. Okay, that works not my first choice. And the other of course for e-circoinc.com, they also have several other holsters there that they've gotten in recently. The barrels are the other thing, it's all on the front page, you don't even have to search. Just scroll down, you'll see what I'm talking about. The only other interesting thing they've got in there is they've got a M1 Garand winter trigger assembly. For you guys that know how those hook up to the rifle, it's actually so you could use your trigger finger mitten. Actually, you're mittin' without even the trigger finger, guys. The idea was that it's mounted onto the trigger guard and it's like a flapper. You just push with your whole hand and boom, boom, she goes. So, those are $20 a piece. Not a critical item, but if you're looking for stuff to finish out your grand collection and put something on the weapon that That's service purpose. We're getting older. I don't want my finger out there freezing in this weather, so using the whole mitten would be kind of cool. And it does work. I know a lot of guys that have got picked these up back in the 70s and early 80s when they came in the last time. And again, the M1 Garand winter trigger assemblies are $19.95. They look like they're used and military guys. So they've been somewhere. Don't know where they were. Probably Norwegian or Italian, because Norwegians had a number of those along with the feeds and that would be somebody would probably have those particular add-ons in their inventory. The Italians did too because they made the Beretta family of Gorans. Both a standard copy of the Goran and all the BM series of rifles guys. And the trigger assemblies all the same so that kind of mitten system works just fine and these look used. But they look clean look for the picture. They're showing it's an example. They look serviceable enough. They're typical used military junk So other stuff is cool on the shelf there now another thing You know we've had a discussion about this and everybody always waiting to see what I would say is like what would be your favorite rifle? Well, what would you carry mark? Well if mark had lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of money And I wasn't really worried if I could just say I could walk in and say I want this, face plasma life, and for the off-range, oozy-nide, me to be the copy and spot, you know, do the Arnold thing, but do it, you know, in a common sense way. Yes, I would take an M14. I would take an M1A. Now, there's a reason for that. For my age bracket and for the people that served about the time that I did, we all know we basically worked with the M14. I'm familiar with it. Again, when you've slept with a weapon night and day and you live with it, you get used to how it works and that muscle memory and that memory, that mental image never changes. It never leaves. It's like bicycle riding, guys. If I were to get an M1A, I'd pick up a heavier barreled M1A in the M15 type configuration or an H-bar barrel. Not a match H-bar, but a heavy M14 barrel. The reason? I don't want to lighten the gun. I certainly want to reach maximum ranges with it. I see minimal distortion with the weapon this way. I'm very familiar. I don't need to get into super details, but a Having seen the weapon perform on the range and in the field, the heavier barrel would be my personal choice. Number of magazines? Well, right off the bat, I'd have to have 20 mags. Now, is that heavier in sin for a guy that's about 56 years old? Yeah, it's going to be heavy, but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm going to need those 20 mags. That's what you call a battle load. When you talk a battle load, forget the word heavy, scrub it out of your mind. Yeah, it's going to get lightfast and you'll wish it was heavy real quick. Yeah. That's the problem. Now, the reason for the heavy barrel, like I said, is less distortion and ammunition. I'd still be going standard ball ammo. I would prefer Portuguese. The Portuguese 308 won't find any more of it anymore. I've got probably about 12,000 rounds sitting off to the side somewhere away from me. And I've had it sitting there from back when we bought it for 3 cents a round. And I've refused to let anybody, shall we say, tap that barrel. You know what I mean? Like the old wine barrel. And there's a reason. The Portuguese stuff, everything that we pretty well put together in a lot of the 308 rifles, that's one of the best of the standard US mil-spec copy rounds that was out there. It's brass case, Eden Eel, whatever. Now it doesn't mean I wouldn't pick up anything else that's out there, but I try this again. If I had unlimited pockets, I'd be going with any one of the American or Korean .308 loads right off the bat in a ball configured cartridge. Beyond that, obviously spare op rod, two spare firing pins, two spare extractors right off the bat. All the main spring, including a main opspring by the way, that's one of the things everybody does kind of forget with the M1. Same with the Garand guys. If you've got a Garand, Op Rod, make sure your primary spring have a backup for that too. Now there's a number of reasons, not the least of which is things happen in the field, but also I'm planning on keeping this weapon, I'm planning on running this weapon through the war. So I know what's going to wear out on it, or at least what eventually is going to require some dressing and maintenance. Now beyond that, yep, a bayonet. Why? Well, even though it is probably another half pound to a three quarters of a pound heavier, I still believe in the sharp pokey thing on the end of the rifle, and I don't care what anybody argues about that. There's something about the idea that I will stick you with this and kill you, or at least I'll hurt you so bad you wish I shot you, that it motivates people to listen, if nothing else. Remember that. The bayonet has a mystique all its own, and everybody out there, if you have a bayonet lug, get a bayonet for your rifle. There's something to be said about the phrase, BANNETS! Oh yeah, hearing that in the middle of nowhere and in darkness and hearing, as everybody is fixing a bayonet you realize, I guess they might be serious. And they're really close. It does work. But again, beyond that then, obviously cleaning kits, two or three at least of the basic kits. Also, again, I bought back in the day so I don't have to worry too much about this, but I bought Virtually thousands of the 144 count grease pots with the louver plate in them. It works with the M1 Garand and the M14. They were made for the M14. I would buy a box of those right off the bat if I was an owner. Why? Because it's an awful convenient system where I don't have to guess. It's already built for the rifle. It goes in the buttstock. It's stored away. Congratulations, I'm done. Now, I wouldn't cut the barrel down. I would not change the configuration of the stock. I would go with a standard M14 stock. I would not change the barrel length because I didn't buy my big guns so I could make it do short little things. Okay, I don't need more muzzle flash. I do not want to reduce the energy of the round going down the tube and the .308 round as it's built was designed for that rifle. Okay, it was designed for the HK91, the FN FAL and the M14. Now that's if I had all kinds of gobs of money. And I'd still tell you that I just mentioned another weapon I'd buy right now is the HK91. because I could get a whole lot of them for less by comparison and their fine quality firearms and there's lots of military parts and especially gobs and military mags. So there's a toss-up. In the past I would not have recommended the gun because it was stupid price. When that rifle was three and four thousand dollars apiece, it says, as I've said many times, there are certain weapons that simply shouldn't cost or shouldn't be charging what they are. Like the Glock. Glock should be a little less than the price of a standard high point. Oh Mark, you've insulted my gun! No, it's common sense. They're charging what the market will bear. So that's capitalism. We have to live with that. So then we have to engineer our pot. We have to engineer it based upon what we have in our pocket. But I do enjoy and I in fact have always been comfortable with the M14. I know I'm older. Recoil is going to be... I'm going to be informed of recoil more so than when I was a spring chicken. But there's a number of solutions there to include, again, even padding the shoulder with the gear you've got. A lot of your combat vests that are out there now are padded. Most everybody is carrying body armor and wearing body armor, which I'm used to doing and living in, guys. I lived in body armor in the 90s. When you met me and I was running around the planet, I mean every day you met me, I would be wearing soft-core undercover second-chance armor provided by the guys who built it. It was a gift by people who well understood what was going on with their government. And so having lived in it, slept in it, breathing a work in it every day non-stop, I'm not talking take it off, I didn't have time to do that. When I was sleeping, I'd be sleeping in a vehicle sitting up. So, if I did lay down, 45 is on one hand and body armor, I'm just laying down and relaxing and then changing out the clothes so I don't stink and then getting on with business. Doing what we did. Now, because of that felt recoil won't be as much of a problem, but there are improvements that can be made and have been made with regard to competition fixtures that go on the weapons. So it's a personal choice there, I'd experiment. If it looks like my old carcass is starting to act up, Then I might add one or two other trinkets to the inventory so that I would be back in the niche. But the reason I'm doing this is for one reason. I can spray and pray and I guarantee I could pepper your hind end all day with volume fire and light caliber weapons. But am I serving my squad or am I serving the men that I serve with best by trying to meet just basically the same range as my enemy? I'm not bragging, but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I can settle in behind that rifle. I will breathe, I will focus on the target, I will take my life's energy and focus on the energy of my enemy, and I can hit them at 2 and 3 times the range of the average rifleman. And I know that I can do this because I have consistently done it over and over and over again. So why am I going to reduce my performance when I have the ability as an accomplished shooter to do more damage to my enemy at the greatest range possible? See, that's how all of you should be thinking as sculpted warriors. Okay? Because we need to decimate, we need to destroy the enemy's fighting potential before he even gets within effective range. We then also need to remember that we're not going to fix ourselves so that we become a target for all the fun toys that are out there that are in the enemy's arsenal. So we still have to be, we have to have legs. Like you've always said Don, with an army without legs, well, you all know what happens kids. Remember that Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail? come back or bite your legs off or bite your kneecap off. Well it doesn't work that way. So again the M14 would be my choice but I know what's going to happen and although it doesn't mean I don't have access to many many many of them okay many many many many of them because many of them I've helped to build here I know people have spares. I can settle with many many other farms and one of the things I've done intentionally and again it's not a brag of but I've always made a point of trying to experiment with other weapons that are in name. Now let me give you an example of something. I will tell you flat out, I do not believe that Lee Harvey Oswald did what he did with a 6.5 Carcano in Dili Plaza. It's a lie. That's just my position. Why? Because I've owned a whole pile of Carcanos and I still technically do. They're around. And I can sit you down with a Model 1939 Italian Carcano and you won't do what they claim he did. It's a lie. It's an absolute fabrication. You've seen other people demonstrate it in different experiments to try and show people that it couldn't be done. I'll just tell you what it could be. Now, would I throw a Carcano away if you handed it to me? No, because if I understand the problems with a rifle and the advantages of the rifle, in other words, it's a mediocre, it's a, not a mediocre even, it's an average weapon. It's a man-lincher charger, it's a man-lincher stripper clip that's used. It's a 6.5 or 7.35 caliber weapon. It has rudimentary, the equivalent to Smith & Wesson Model 10 police sights on it. Then it's got a standard fixed iron sight rear and a very minimally adjustable front sight. You have to tap that back and forth with an armors tool. But you know a lot of people died in World War II from 6.5 Carcano bullets guys despite what we always joke about. As long as you understand that if you try to spray in prayer or start to speed fire with it, it's a course. Oh just plain, it's a Hugo of Warsaw action. It's tough to operate, it is not a smooth action, but it will get the job done if you use it as a placement rifle. It's like a speedo motor shifter compared to a Hurst. Exactly. Oh yeah, it's like clunk clunk clunk clunk. But I can get the job done and I will kill you with it at whatever range I consider to be effective with that weapon based upon the ammunition available. with military ammunition, variances are a little greater. With the commercial ammunition available from pretty partisan, I'll tack drive on their Carcano. They have excellent rifling. The actions are sufficient for individual placement shooting. It's not a volume fire weapon that has, you know, again, if you start spraying and praying with it, work the action fast and kind of aim towards the enemy, well, eventually people are going to figure out you aren't hitting much, so they're not going to be as excited about you. But if you look at it as an excellent, say, like any other weapon, as a guerilla weapon where you fire around from a placed position and immediately move and meanwhile you're reloading, not a problem. So, any weapon out there can perform the mission, but you have to understand, and that means you need to go out and research a little bit. You need to go, when you go to the gun show, seriously look at each of these weapons. You know, we joke about their car count, hey, they're almost brand new, only dropped once, you know, I used to joke about the Vietnamese the same way. The French rifles, yes, I know, they have spring-loaded uniforms and they surrender a lot, but there are some Germans that were killed by the 7.5, you know, French and 8mm Lebel rifles. And while the 8mm is harder to get ammo for, it'll still kill you just like it did 70 years ago on the battlefield. It'll kill people, lots of them. The French actually kill lots and lots and lots of people as colonial prisoners or executed on walls. They did that all the time. So the bullet actually does its damage. Now if you understand its limitations or understand I got 20 rounds in a box and I got this rifle, now what can I do with it? Well, if you look at it as a, let's go get a black uniform moose rifle, then no, you're going to pick the shot, you're going to kill them on the toilet, you're going to shoot them while they're sitting there with a sandwich to their face and both hands busy. You're not going to be fair with it and it will work just fine for that purpose. In fact, ideally it's one of those challenge things. If I had 20 Lebel rounds and I have one target I need to re-equip, then the challenge is each one of those bullets should get me one complete reissue. of whatever the other guy has. Now, how do I incorporate the tool in the toolbox to get that done? I have to engage on my terms, not their terms. So each one has its strengths, its weaknesses. Each one has a unique flavor to operation which you need to experiment with. When you go to the range, you don't go to spray and pray. You should go to actually, to physically challenge yourself. You should go there to see, what can I make this weapon do? You can still have a great time with it. Make it a competition. We challenge people. Pistolcraft is the same way. But riflemen, all of you out there should be riflemen first. In the purest American patriot sense of the word. The American rifleman, the American marksman was a feared person on the battlefield, a feared warrior. Despite all the rewriting done by the Brits and the rewriting done by other people, it is a fact that it is individual rifle marksmanship that won battle after battle after battle, guys. Today is no different. All the technology is purely designed to mimic the performance of that man. Think about it. Even with the robots, the nematodes, hemorrhoids, the robotoids, the drones are desperately trying to mimic with artificial intelligence What a man is capable of doing to the nth degree and repeatedly doing it over and over again provided he takes the time to discipline himself to it. We're taught to be children. The whole society, our whole nation, why will be rolled over if they had their way, is our whole nation has been conditioned to become children. In other words, a dull activity is something to be avoided called worry to work is a dull activity of the minds of most people. So everybody's conditioned to avoid work. Don't worry to try to learn anything. The mark of an adult is understanding that many actions are very dull and very repetitive, but the end result is increased performance and quality of the man himself, the person, male or female. See how that works? We are always looking, in fact, eventually we should become masters so that we are able to teach, and we are able to teach in such a way that we pass on the working knowledge. I can't emphasize enough the whole idea. I mentioned this when I was talking about rifle marksmanship. Guys, there is an energy that you feel. I don't care. I have had this happen. For all of you who have hunted, you know the same thing. You know when you have killed something before you have killed it. There is a nature to the beast and how it works. But it's your focused energy making contact with that focused energy and you're going to turn its lights out. It's also true with rifle marksmanship. I know, for instance, if I have a weapon in my hand, each of those weapons I understand how I must situate myself in order for me to get maximum performance out of it. It has become such a repeated process that it is automatic, but I know and can feel when I'm properly settled on myself. When my skeletal structure is properly, that's how you need to be thinking. If you want to hit that target at maximum range, it should be so automatic that it becomes SOP, Standard Operating Procedure. You become the gun platform. Exactly. Then the only thing you have to do is adjust accordingly based upon the weapon that you're holding. That can be that can be rifle shotgun or pistol doesn't make an difference rifle especially again once you're settled and you're into the natural cycle of things and Breathing is half the battle guys then you're going to be on target But you have to you have to practice this now this gets me into the last thing they want to touch on airsoft Let's see airsoft station. I shouldn't do this, but airsoft. Oh man. I guess I will The airsoft station has got a number of cheap cheap weapons in the boneyard right now guys in multiple numbers. One of them they have three Beretta Model 92's for four dollars and fifty cents. Now these are Beretta authorized knockoffs in their metal. For training purposes these are an excellent training aid and not only that you would just have one you can put three people on the line simultaneously. Now, these have a problem with them in some way. I'm not buying these as shooters. I am buying these as muscle memory trainers so that I can teach people without me having to worry about any discharge of any kind of firearm. And in the process, the individual gets very realistic simulation slash training from the get-go. So again, for the price, they're training aids. Whether or not they can be put online, they didn't want to bother with it, whatever. They also have a number of AR-15M4s at airsoftstation.com. $12.50 a piece. There are six of them, guys. There are six training aids or six simulation tools all right there, exact same model. Everybody on the line would have the exact same training aid. Now for $22 they have several others that are AR-15s. And they're in the M4 configuration. So if you again, If it's one air 15 or the other doesn't make any difference. So your biggest concern is pistol grip, again, foregrip control, and obviously sight alignment. And all of the air 15 family are one of the same. Once you know how to operate the action, it's repeat, repeat, repeat. It's just variations on barrel length. So any of those would make great training aids for initially introducing an individual into handling a firearm. See how that works? Again, that's airsoftstation.com. airsoftstation.com. Then go to their boneyard. If they're still there, fantastic. They also have one SPD, all metal, and they have one M1A, slash, M14, all metal. Both of them are $89 a piece. Yeah, I know, it's a chunk of change, but you know what? Those are all metal aerosol that are so close to the real thing, even when you're standing next to the person you can't tell. Which means that makes for a very desirable, again, training aid to give you all the nuances of how to handle an M14. I can use that as a training tool and I'm confident that I don't have to worry about anybody being hurt. Mistakes that might be made, somebody drops it, I'm not going to cry. Somebody drops my $900 or $2000 rifle. There's that moment where when it hits the ground because nobody's fast enough where everybody kind of freezes and the guy that drops it knows that he's really, really embarrassed and also maybe shouted at. and the guy who let him use it goes, why the hell did I let him touch that rifle in the first place? On the other hand, if it's an $80 training aid, it's like, well, that's what I bought it for. See how that works, guys? So especially since we do have a lot of money invested in our weapon systems, we need to take this into consideration. Now, I've heard some dings. I don't know if we have any callers, but before we go any farther, Don, night vision, you're going to be available in 15 minutes. Guys, they shame on you if you're buying night vision from anybody else. There's a reason we should be taking care of each other. Don has stayed the course. He's been a fellow patriot. He's been a fellow warrior for a very long time. So pay attention, write the numbers down. Don, what do you have available and how can we get hold of you, sir? Thank you, Mark. Hey, there's the first generation gun site, 308 capable. We've been talking about that 308 gun. Go right on top of that. The manufacturer says it won't fail for recoil from that cartridge. They're going to warrant you for against failure for two years. It's not going to fail for recoil. Happy day. It's hard to find a first generation gun sight that can brag like that. I'll put that in your mailbox for $400. My price came down. Your price comes down. Hooray. My phone number is 231-796-4. Again, 2, 3, 1, 7, 9, 6, 5, 8. We could talk about a Serration Gunsite 308 capable. We could go to third generation and we could talk thermal viewers or thermal gun sites. My phone number is 2, 3, 1, 7, 9, 6, 8, 4, 5, 8. We are getting close to the top mark here. I want to bring a point up here a couple of different ways, but you guys There's the Monday morning quarterback and did you see that football game? Why it was like a basketball score and you know somebody didn't hold their hockey stick right or something I don't know But we can talk about all kinds of things is the point there. We can talk about your gloves We can talk about your handgun, but you know what take your handgun out. It's it's it'll it's kill you cold out now Take your handgun out to the range if someone will open up the range for you and if not make certain that the next time you're at the range meeting how come it's not open in the winter time for the form for the reasons that are coming up. I almost set a form mention which means that I've already talked about it. But hey Mark you talked about a lever act a little flapper that will work your M1 so you don't have to take your finger out of your glove. When your finger is in your glove, does it fit in your pistol? Be it a 1911 or whatever. Some pistols have really big trigger guards for that reason. When your hand is in your glove and your handgun is in your hand and you operate it, how do you hold it so are you certain that it will cycle and not open up your glove? Or your gloves stop the cycle? Have you shot your handgun in the cold? That's the question. Now it's not just about, well, does your finger fit in the trigger and does the slide operate because your gloves are in the way? How does that slide operate over a couple of magazines? Is your lubricant that works in the summertime really good in the winter or do you get that first one out because it's chambered and the second one, the slide doesn't even go to battery? Way too much lubricant on it for the winter time and so much drag because it's so much thicker. Now's the time to figure these things out. The same things work with your semi-auto long guns. The lubricant that you're using in the summer time, take your gun outside, put it in the trunk of your car overnight or put it someplace where it is stone cold when you pick it up the next day and when you take it to it. It is ambient temperature. just like it would be if you had been outside with your gun nestled up with you right there under your chin. Well, you know, right there real close. You don't have to have your gun under your chin, you guys. But with your gun real close, now that gun is ambient temperature. Now go and try and cycle a mag. See if it'll run a whole mag for you. Because we can talk about it. And we can even talk about the lubricants that you're supposed to use in the wintertime. And we'll talk more about talking tomorrow because we're getting, you know, we do talk a lot on the hour. That's the nature of, you know, an audio venue. You're right. You're right. But you guys, you need to do this just so that you know your gun's going to work in weather like this. Have you done it? And if you haven't done it, you don't know. Do you? Okay, enough on that. We might have a caller. I'll be quiet. Who do we have? Call or jump in there. Hello, Mark. Go ahead, we got you. Oh, this is Duffy. I was listening earlier when you were talking about heavier caliber for hitting on the vehicles of the enemy. Recently I got to look at a new model Ford car that they're pushing for cop cars. It's reinforced, the glass is a polycarbonate that will stop pistol rounds and the doors will stop AK-47 rounds. Right, that means that they've panelled in, which is something that they do as a side contract. That's something that's done as a side, and it depends on the department and the year the vehicle's produced. So, what they've done is they've taken a... there's a company that does it just down the road from where I am right here. We know we're all... in fact, we get to see all the unmarked cop and surveillance cars before everybody else does. So, we know who they are and what they are because the company that does all the modifications like that, there's several of them in the area here. And they're all friendly. They're all ours. So, we get to sit inside their vehicles before they do. Go ahead. Well, this one was directly from Ford. It's one that they're offering loaded. Yes, if they are willing to spend the money on the package, yes. Even though they, again, remember what they are arguing, what they have done is they have taken ballistic Kevlar panels, either they are using blanket or they are using suspension panels. The blanket is still level 4, level 5, basically it's like Dragon Scale or whatever, and they have to disassemble the whole door, they install it, and then they reinstall it. It's done as an after production, well, unless they have a, they may have a special committed line for it, but it would be very limited. Typically what they'll do is they send them out to their own custom shop, and they build them after the fact, and they also custom paint accordingly depending on the department. I think it's useful to have the heavier rounds like the 30-06, 760 by 54R, especially the 7mm Magnums would be the thing to use on those vehicles. And also don't forget the good old M2 .50 caliber round right in behind it. Ooh and woah. There's a couple of them around. There's a couple of those around. Exactly. Go ahead, puppy. I was just saying that that M2 ball is not going to be impressed by those cars. No, and it comes down to again when people hear when they hear when they hear armored, okay? It's true. It is armored, but it's not bulletproof and depending upon which which way you go and again like I said We don't want to under gun we want to over wheel better to be grossly overpowered which is a joke There is no such thing anyway, but grossly overpowered 30 out six round. Yeah me. I'll take that Well, Guns and Ammo are the people that wrote that years ago back when they were trying to lick the arse of the Fed and go anti-gun. You know, this recent article, they just apologized for guys where they tried to play it again. That's not the first time they've done that. That's why I want to remind everybody, Guns and Ammo is not a pro-gun magazine. They're just using us. Every chance they can- Go ahead. Yes, exactly. That's all they are. If they can lick their hind end and try to undergun you, they'll direct everybody to push that way, which is what they've been doing. Go ahead. that was not the flexible Kevlar in the door, but like a solid inner liner. Right, that's more like what you see with the Pascat helmet, to compare the difference in the material. The Pascat helmet is so many layers of Kevlar that are compressed under heat and pressure to create a static Kevlar that still offers excellent ballistic protection. However, all of that type of armor, no matter what it is, Even if it were to slow down certain rounds, if enough hits occur in the same general area, there's a hole there. There's going to be a hole there, yes. In fact, if you've ever seen a Pascat helmet or any of these ballistic helmets that they're showing you that stop bullets, If it's any kind of slider grazing round, it literally blossoms that armor out. It'll blossom it out. One round will blossom at the size of the helmet itself. It looks like you've got a possum stuck to the side of your gear. It's the nature of the laminate and the way it works. It's pretty cool, but they are just useless after one hit like that. Ceramic armor used to be the same way. Ceramic will stop. In fact, thank you very much. Okay, I posted a picture on Facebook, somebody else put it, and they were joking about this guy. And it shows this guy over in Syria with what looks like a cement block. uh... basically wrote to his crotch guys how many people you might have seen this picture everybody was kind of laughing well don't laugh too much because what he had there was what's called speed block speed block is a ceramicized mob material that basically is that is quite more mobile least for one one or two rounds i would keep it there for it's not gonna be good real quick but actually deflect around from your private parts or anywhere else Speedblock was designed as a quick solution to do channels, tunnels, or places where there's the possibility of industrial failures with other material or mechanical systems. It's designed to absorb energy more efficiently and although it's not fully ballistic, it wasn't meant to be body armor, what's funny is that I've shot it with .30-06 and it'll stop the first one or two rounds. Again, it's sandwiched. Toilets will do the same thing, guys. A toilet will stop high-powered rifle rounds one or two times, but it won't hold it back for very long because once you keep firing, it's going to start, you know, again, it breaks down. During World War II, our men had potty armor. They had ceramicized armor. You'll see that in some of the pictures with the bomber crews, especially the dorsal, you know, the standing gunners. They obviously weren't going to flex with these things and they were designed to be thigh and then front shin like football armor. Now they offered good protection but if they got hit Well, that's all she wrote. What basically you did is you took that whole panel, threw it away, and replaced it with another one. You hope you didn't get hit again on the same mission. Right, if you got hit in the same spot. The same is true with the Type 56 Marine Armor. Everybody goes, it won't stop anything, really. It will, but the thing is, the panels for the abdominal area were a ceramisone, actually they were a striated ceramic metallic plate. They work great. But if you hit it, it shatters. Now once that fractures, the next hit is not going to be as stoppable. The same is true with bank glass. Yes, so again it did its job. It cost me a lot of money and it fails the first time. No it doesn't. It failed the second time. So what was your life worth the first time? You see how that works? So, that's the only balance with body armor. In this case, the stuff they're using in the vehicles, they do suburbans the same way. All these suburbans running down the road that typically the feds have, especially the embassy cars, they take them to Chicago, and they've got a company there that does hundreds of them at a time, and those are lightly armored the same way, or heavily armored depending on who wants to spend the money. Oh yeah. Same basic act. You can get a windshield two inches thick. Yeah, of course you've got to help if you want to get out. It's great for staying in, but it's also great for keeping you from getting out too, which people seem to forget. So when you go up and upgrading, remember there are other issues. Beating your way out doesn't work, because I don't think you have the energy of that rifle round, between your little fingertips there. But thank you for bringing that up, Fluffy. Appreciate that. No problem. Thanks. Again, a lot of the material out there will at least reduce the energy of even the heavier round only once, maybe twice, but if it's impacted upon more than once, typically you're going to chew through. If you had lighter weapons and you were worried about the idea, well, can I actually stop or can I do damage? Most important is, again, heavier is better. That's the emphasis. It's not like they're rolling up a Saracen or an Abrams. Come on, you guys. Not even a Leopard. Yeah, it's limited, but it is again. It's one of the things that they're spending more your tax dollars on and expected so again when they think they're pointed in the right direction That's when you shoot them from behind and they're standing there With the door in front of them and that helps to keep the body parts all sluiced in one spot when the bullet splashes through their quarter their carcass oh That's mean well That's a fact and we've covered that before by the way as a matter of fact We're at the top of the hour don number for night vision, please That number is 2317968458. Again, for everybody out there, it is Weapons Wednesday. Take the time, go through the sites that I recommended, check them out. Those Skeletized Tokarev Holsters, I haven't seen those for a while actually. The German Luger models have been offered in copies and the P-38 models in copies. These are military-issue, Skeletized Holsters with the magazine pouch, pretty cool. They also have them without the magazine pouch for a few dollars less, personal choice. depending on what you're going to apply it to and how you want to use it uh... i'd assume they just it was cheaper they use what's whether plus of course it lightened up the load we should be hearing the music anytime now we are into the next hour past the top of the hour And I know that Ed's tied up with a few more things there. So again, one more time. Don, your number for night vision again, please. Oh hey, go out and shoot your guns this weekend in the cold. Call me up and tell me how you feel when you're done. My number is 231-796-8458. Call me up and tell me if your gun cycles. 231-796-8458. Very good. And J.G. Sayles still has the Yugo. M77s, thank you Kentucky and 308. That's another solution. Less expensive than anything else out there guys. Gotta pick up more mags if you do that. God bless the republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march both day and night. Hurrah! Keep them in the slats, beat them down so hard they'll wish to god they never showed up. Thank you Don. Thank you Mark. God bless you. God bless America.
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