February 5, 2014
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59m
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2014
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Mark Koernke and Darryl Sivik discussed winter weather conditions, preparedness for armed conflict, and ammunition shortages. They reviewed a tactical gear loadout from Zombie Squad's MOAB bag guide and promoted upcoming gun shows in Pennsylvania. The hosts addressed a fake petition video from California about executing gun owners, using it to illustrate the need for armed readiness and tactical training. They extensively analyzed weapon calibers, penetration capabilities, and squad tactics, emphasizing heavier cartridges like .308 and 7.62x54R for superior performance. The episode included discussion of government ammunition purchases, vehicle armor, and defensive strategies against federal agents.
- preparedness
- second amendment
- tactical gear
- ammunition shortage
- gun shows
- militia training
- .308 caliber
- 7.62x54r
- federal agents
- waco
- connecticut gun registration
- zombie squad
- molle gear
- pennsylvania
- armed conflict
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If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free and the home of the free? And good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Horky. And I'm Darryl Sivik. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, west, central, southeast, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com. We're also on IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com. We're running AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, alternate technologies, Hallmark, and Golden Spike technologies across the country. Well, actually, we had snow this morning come down straight. Just perfectly straight down like the first nose we had the beginning of the season no major wind or anything guys Yeah, we got well probably five six inches I'd say a fluffy stuff not real densely packed and it blows around a little bit with a little bit of breeze Moved out real good. So I always shoveled out the areas that needed to be step one step to shovel out the other areas. We were procrastinating on What's it like in your neck of the woods because it's blue sky here now, but it's going down which means gonna get cold It's cold today. What's it like there in Pennsylvania and what's the date today, sir? Well, today is February the 5th and I claim the 5th was, oh, that's the wrong 5th, I'm sorry. It's cold. We did have snow. In fact, it was doing a little flurrying out there. We got about, depending on where you were in the area, I was out and about today, probably shouldn't have been, but We had anywhere from 8 to 12 inches of snow around here in different places. The roads were atrocious for a while until the snow stopped and the snow piles were able to catch up with it. I had my Jeep in with four-wheel drive, although I didn't use it today for some reason. It's supposed to get cold and we're supposed to have another winter blast come in towards the end of the week or weekend. It's winter time, it's winter time. Your fashion winter time. This reminds me of the winters that I had when I was a kid. It started to snow in December and didn't let up until... February, February, January. We just kept coming, remember? It was fantastic, guys. Everything was cut with a tunnel to everywhere you went. When we were smaller, it was like, man, that snow is deep, which is true. It was. But it was really cool if you were younger when you had to shovel the sidewalks out and you didn't know it was going to be around the corner because you couldn't see. That's the kind of winter we're getting right now. Go ahead. And we used to grow up when we were kids and we'd play outside in that snow and cold for hours on end. And today's kids, man, oh my gosh, we've got to close the schools, we've got to have two-hour delay, we've got to have this, and we've got to have that. Kids can't go to school because it's cold, it's snowing. We're uh... America the Land of the Panty Waste. Yep, that's it. That's the waste. When the kids are born and if the male child should be given a pair of pink panties with ruffles on them. That's right. And then castrate in lobotomize. Yes, I understand. If they're male child. That's what every lesbian would say. On the other hand, for those people who are trying to grow male children, yeah, you grab them in the scruff of the neck and you throw them out there in the snow. Don't come back until, well, until I open the door. I'm going to go back and do Easter. It is comical. When we grew up, guys, there was something that's been reinforced over and over again, and I don't really think about it. I haven't looked at the old schools, but I'll guarantee they were not whacked them out. But we used to have steel swing sets, big steel pipe guys. I mean, you could hang a horse from these things, but they were the long swings. You could really get going. Of course, those are all evil and bad. Jungle Jims made out of 3-quarter inch pipe. that were all basically plumbing pipes, they're all put together, neaterdens. Everybody used to have a right rush to get out there to get in their spot. Then there's the teeter-totter, which I'm sure has been executed for most playgrounds where the communists are in play and save us from ourselves. What's amazing is that we survived all of that and then some. Of course, like with the teeter-totters, you had to wait because only two people, although two could be on each side, with the big ones. But the idea was that you had to wait and everybody, nobody wanted to get off because they're too busy having fun. Then they liked the idea they're having fun and you're not, so you'd have to sit there and like, man, I'm not going to wait for this. You have to go find something else to do. which may have to keep your brain active you know in the well first of all you had to fight to get to where the stuff was like all i i got to do some else because i can't stand here in place and freeze you wouldn't keep you start to go around other things you know make a snow forts you know through a snowball whatever you could have snow forts making up a pile of snowballs we have a three would be in the midst of making them when you have a had the block wide uh... or a sea-wide snowball thing. Snowball wars. One into the neighborhood to the other and then some. We carried that on. Now let me give you a little hint here, guys. I lived in a neighborhood when I was young where they had planted crabapple trees around all the neighborhood. Every so many feet was a crabapple tree. During the spring, it was all, the smell was fantastic, but once those little crabapple berries were available, Oh, that's when we had the, we didn't wait for snow, we had crabapple wars, Darryl. And if you were smart, you took, you see, when you had those old hand cock or the pump, you know, Crosman BB guns, if you took that whole end of the fixture out, you had this big sewer pipe, right? And you took the crabapples, which were just the right size, and they jammed down in like a muzzle loader, and you could use your airway, your BB gun to shoot crabapples at people. And we did all day. In fact, we took cardboard, we took our wagons, we made cardboard covered wagons, and then we'd have the girls get inside and we'd be pulling them along. Of course, the girls had guns too, or had handfuls of crab apples. And whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, who some people have those pump be like a set i had a baby pump uh... look like uh... you know the shotgun really they may start making a back in the late fifties and uh... i had one of those and to save me from the bb gun they've taken out of the end what is method that i didn't have to worry about doing it it was already out of there and so the crab apple became the available ammunition guys and pop We carried on for days and days and the crab apples lasted all season until the snow flew just about because the crab apples were so thick and they were non-hybrid. They were a very, very, very healthy crab apple tree. There were hundreds of them. We didn't stop. We survived all of that. Then survived the winter. We even used once in a while breakdown dig out slingshots. Oh yeah, but the wrist rockets weren't fair because that was a little hard on everybody. They'd be like, oh, you have the wrist rockets. But a regular older style V type, you know, lighter duty, less pump. Yeah, those were used too. Yeah, but see what was nice about those was when you hit somebody with a crap apple from a slingshot, He couldn't deny that he didn't get hit. You know, you just throw an animal. You didn't hit me, you didn't touch me. Oh yeah, well, he... Bang! Now look at your shirt. See, there's the wealth. Now you can't deny it. You're out. You're dead. Yep, the Sabbath just got him. Yes, but yeah, those are good old days. If the kids, if they only knew what we did, we'd all be in jail. You know? We'd all be in jail. Because the stuff today everything we did when we were kids that we had fun with is now illegal. It would be a crime and one for one. But we won't worry about that. We got all kinds of fun things to get ready for with the war coming up as it is. For everybody out there, not an if just a when. It's obvious the bad guys aren't going to let up so neither shall we. And that means we need to organize our equipment, train as a militia. We need to be better armed, squared away with regard to our logistics. and mutual support when the time comes. Remember there's going to be a call to arms. Are you prepared? Are you set up as a Minuteman? Are you set up as heavy infantry, light infantry, mechanized, air mobile, whatever it is you're going to do, make sure your troops are squared away. And by the way, real quick on this note, I want to say One of the guys posted a really good page. It's in the chat room, guys, and for the zombie hunters out there, which I think is really cool. They have the right idea. We'll couch it in something. We're going to be zombie hunting, making dead things deader, as they say. Well, one of the postings that was just, there we go, Zombie Squad. Zombie, that's Z-O-M-B-I-E-H-U-N-T-E-R-S dot O-R-G. Zombie Squad, View Topic, Moab's Inch Bag, I-N-C-H Bag. updated 82912. It's like, well it's old! No, it's not outdated at all. But what's interesting about this particular piece, again it's on zombiehunters.org Zombie Squad Making Dead Things Deader Since 2003. And it's MOABs, that's M-O-A-B, apostrophe S, space, inch, I-N-C-H, in capitals, space, bag, dated 82912. Now, this is a nice photo and pictorial essay. It's a photo essay of how to put a combat battle pack together. Okay, slash prep bag, whatever you want to call it. In reality, it's a house load, guys, what we've been talking about. This guy did a very good job. I highly recommend you take a look at it. Especially his solutions with regard to marking the individual carrying pouches, which was a very good idea. The most important thing though was that it all be tactical, not red, not orange, not pink, not purple. Now he went with ACU because everybody thought they needed ACU, but also there's a lot of ACU stuff coming out. And as I pointed out, especially in the MOLLE gear, It's out there, try to match it so that the gear all is put together. You can do this by shopping around. The MOLLE gear is out there, the OD Green MOLLE gear is out there, the Woodland MOLLE gear is out there. Let's see, what's the other one? Oh, the Coyote, which is also being called Terra. Now, that's another color term you'll find for Coyote Brown. Terra, as in terra firma. The other variant that I really like, but you won't find as much of laying around, is the Air Force went with this Tiger Stripe. It's a digital Tiger Stripe, but it's still a pretty cool design. I like it better than I do the ACU, but it's pricey when it is out there. It's a good design because it complements the other Tiger that we already have in service. So, if you're looking for Tiger Stripe, yep, they even make, although it's Air Force component, they make Tiger Stripe in the newer MOLLE gear. And there is some of it coming out of the Gov Liquidation site, even through the retail outlet, through the sales, sale, and also closeouts. So, if you scroll through everything, you'll find some of that. But, this guy committed to the ACU pattern, the rig is very well put together. In fact, it's a compliment. to ingenuity. The big thing is seal-a-meal bags, system and ziplock bags like we've said a million times. Guys, everything you can do to seal stuff up means that while it's in storage and prep, it's going to be ready for you. The other thing that he incorporated in this were snares, buckshots, snare kits are a really good idea. But I don't need to explain it on the air here. It's easier if you just go to zombiehunters.org. That's the Zombie Squad. Making dead things deader. and the particular story which you guys posted in the chat room there so you can tap it real quick if you are listening. M O A B apostrophe S space I N C H space B A G dot then update updated 8 29 12. I highly recommend that you take a look at it. Why reinvent the wheel? The only thing I think is really cool, the knife he committed to, is basically looks to me like one of the Finnish military standard knives. I haven't looked that closely at it yet. But it looks like a fishing knife. A lot of people go, well, let's make a fishing knife. Well, the fins are kind of notorious for gutting things, like Russian troops on the ground. No, they wouldn't do that. If they catch up with them. So again, a lot of the stuff for each of the nations, they have their own style and flavor, the way things are built. Works just fine. The equipment is very serviceable. In this case, it's a MOLLE matchup. It's MOLLE, but it's in the ACU. ACU doesn't work everywhere. So remember that. For most areas of the green and lush or woods areas, it's a shoot me uniform. But, there are a lot of parts of the country where ACU works very well. One of the locations is way down there on the border where California, Arizona and into New Mexico. I've seen the pictures of the stuff deployed in the field and literally it is a predator uniform. It's a predator kit which is why I would prioritize shipping more and more of this ACU stuff down to our border militias. We've done this in the past. We've tried to. I don't know. Again, variations on the theme anyway. I just want to touch on that. Darryl, whatever you've got, jump in there please, because I know you've got things you want to touch on. We need to know where you're going to be, by the way, too. Gun shows. Oh, well, I'm going to be here. Oh, it's gun shows. Let's see. Well, that's a confusing thing here, but let me get my calendar. I've got it here. If I can get it to open up the way it's supposed to. The first gun show is going to be here in February in Meadeville at the Sarah Tumor Club at their clubhouse. Come on, come on, Boyle. I'll cooperate here. I'll have to put you against the wall and shoot you if you don't. Alright, here we go. February the 22nd and 23rd at the Sarah Tumor Club house. That's on Bowden Street extension in Meadeville. All you have to do if you're coming in is come into town and ask somebody and they'll direct you to where the clubhouse is. It's a fine little show. They do have room to grow, which is nice. So the more people we get there to go, the more the dealers talk about it, the more dealers will want to be there. So let's help them out and help yourself out. Then the next one. It is the very next weekend, but that is in March. That is at Rocky Grove at the fire hall down there. There again, you get down to Franklin, PA, and all you have to do is ask and people will be able to tell you because that has been a long running show and it has been a well attended show for a good many years and lots of people there. It is about 150 table show altogether if I remember right. And everything up from ammunition to maybe even powder, even though powder at the last few shows has been getting real thick. And that's basically all I got on schedule for that. But a couple things that have sparked my interest, and I just found a one-stuck this afternoon here before coming on the air, and it's on Infowars.com. Seems that now the post office, postal service, you know them guys down there in the blue pants with the dark blue stripe on them that bring you the mail? Well them fellas I guess are looking for, guess what, various calibers of ammo. They are joining the government in the ammo crunch. So if there's any doubt in your mind, that this ammo shortage and the continuation of the shortages is contrived. Why does the post office need several? They didn't go into detail as to how many rounds, but they are looking to buy ammo. Also, I saw where the military bought, that's right, the military bought enough 30 round AK-47 magazines, which is not their standard weapon by the way, but they bought enough of them to be able to hold 18 million rounds of ammunition and smell what's going on. And then the other thing I wanted to pick on, and this too came from Infowars, but I have not been able to get back to it to dig it up yet. It seems that some college students were passing a petition around out in California. Of course. Of course. The Californicators are at it again. This petition calls for the arrest and execution of lawful gun owners. It seems how they now have a pretty good list of registered firearms. Well, that particular piece was done by a guy who was being very facetious. If you pay attention to what he was doing, he was testing to see how stupid people are. and what he did is he actually was telling them, yeah, we'll execute people or we'll round up the gun owners and kill them or we'll put them in FEMA camps. And these idiots were bobbing their head like, yeah, oh, that's great. Yeah. Which shows you just how stupid the people are. The guy does this with a lot. He's done this with many other subjects. Some people are like, oh, no, I can't do that. Or they were like in brain fart because they didn't know how to respond because they're all warm fuzzy out in California. So rather than saying, you know, you sucker, you try that, I'll come to your house and find you. And instead of That's the attitude everybody should have but you know the funny thing is a lot of idiots were like oh, yeah, I'll find it. Okay Yeah, you're gonna kill the gun owners now remember this is right in line what we saw last year with these you know again if you These the dunderheads have somehow got this logic that if they start holding signs that say they want to kill us That we're not going to kill them that somehow we're just gonna keep letting well, you know, it's like Waco. Oh that the liberals also all the the branch to vidians murdered on national television and thought while we got away with that think about it but go ahead call it where we have yet this is mark uh... that out your own children eight he's a clown to begin with anyway yet you are a lot of help is sent back out california what they said that senator that state that actually give the damn about gun rights. It just shows us how much an idiot Alex Jones is. Well, it reinforces the negative thing that, oh, look, these people are all there. Look, it's so horrible. Well, you know what? Instead, what we need to be doing is, yeah, we know they're that stupid. I can show you on national television where they were holding signs saying, kill the gun owners, kill the NRA members. And guys, all those signs that were in different cities when they did that were all printed. If you pay attention, they were all commercially printed from the same printer. So these characters are all dressed up and ready to run with the get the guns under the logic and this is what I said before remember in their mind and in their sphere they believe that whatever BS they've been told that we're just going to roll over and that ha ha ha they can have their way. Number one I will destroy anybody they send out and everybody should have the same attitude completely destroy. Don't let any of them get away anybody coming out to play that kind of game work of variation on the theme. Number two, I'm going to find the people who back that up and I'm going to get rid of them. Because you're at war from that point forward. If they head their way, they'll come to your house, they'll rape your women, they'll ransack your property, they'll pocket the goodies, and then they'll laugh about it at the bar the next day. That's their plan. So our attitude has to be in reverse order. We're going to slaughter them. I'm going to laugh about what I did to them. I'm going to take their wallets out, find out where they came from, and do in reverse to them. How's that sound? You see, oh it's not so much fun. No, no, you're not supposed to be able to do that. Well, wait a minute. You thought it would be great. You got your little snail trail of black uniforms that all go hut, hut, hut. They kick in people's doors, they wait, they steal, they pilfer. Their biggest fear is that now people have as many cameras as they do. So now if you'll notice, they're eyeballing constantly and looking for cameras. Exactly. You see, because they know that they're going to get caught in crime. So, the first thing they're doing is knocking those out. Why? Are they knocking them out? They don't want anybody to see what they really do. So, here's how it works. I'm not going to apologize for this. They plan on piddling and coming out. We plan on hunting them down. And once it starts, if they start ... Here's the other thing. This is something I would point out. In the first day of Waco, If the bat faggots came out and they started myrtleating on the Branch Davidians, which on the 9-11 tape guys, it's all there to hear. You can hear the feds shooting first when they're killing the dogs and they're shooting the pets in front of the house right off the bat. But then you see all these pictures, all these cop shops, everybody's just running toward Now the Branch Davidian home and church because they got to help the bat faggots now now let me ask you something if I wiped out those bat faggots and more fools show up those people Mark you have to hold off because those guys wouldn't be able to know what's going on wait a minute they all decide they're gonna back up a bunch of knuckle dragging black uniform pigs whose pure job it is to go rape kill pillage you burn across countryside Now at that point you're at war, they should know better. I would pick up a radio and say everybody understand what just got wiped out here. I would do this. If I had one of their rigs and it's all on all their dispatches and they're all hearing it through all their 900 meg equipment, if you're a pro gun, you better not be coming down the road. If you expect to collect retirement, you better not be coming down the road. Because if I see you on the road from that point forward, you're an optimal target and we're not going to wait for you to get out of the vehicle. We're not going to wait for you to get out of your hut hut truck. We're not going to wait for you to get out of your APC. We're going to slam your arse right there on the spot and wipe you out. So if you're really a patriot, and if you're really pro-gun, and if you're really pro-American, you all better just take that vehicle and park it somewhere, and you better go home. But you better not be coming down the road. We're backing up our brother cops because those bat faggots are not brother cops. Those secret police are not brother cops. Homeland Security is not brother cops. But for that matter, if they're involved in any kind of scurrilous activity, how are you still calling them your brother? Exactly. You see? So there's a problem here with people going, well, you'd have to pick and choose. If he's coming the other way, how many of these idiots They went right along with the bat faggots and then later on, granted, they did eventually collect their brains and work this out because we had men on the air who talked about this and said, man, this whole thing was wrong. Right from the get go, if bat faggots or FBI are involved and state police, because state police are basically the butt wipes for the feds. That's all they are, large buddy butt wipes for the feds. and they'll do the same thing. Not all of them and there's a bunch of them, they're kind of all scratching their arse now because they're trying to figure out what's going on. But are we going to sit and wait and let them build up down the road? Oh hell no! Once this kicks in it's like Lexington and Concord. Guys, you go down the road and you're traveling down the road looking for them and you don't do a reasonable stop and let everybody get out of the cars like you see in the movies and they're hiding behind the doors. No, you're going to ambush them accordingly and wipe them out in place. They'll be found in burning tin cans and plastic. They'll be burning and they'll be piled up in burning wreckage here and then there'll be another column of them there because they'll be coming down and mobilizing in columns. That's the kind of BSUC, but you're not going to be doing the, oh, let's just wait and see what they do. Oh, hell no. The time for latency is over. Yeah, once this thing kicks in, this is done. I mean, and that's all there is to it. Now, pick a side. And if you're going to continue to back up the gun grabbers, and these characters who, by the way, going right back to where you brought this up, Darrell, this whole thing with these idiots signing these petitions, like there's going to be no repercussions. But the whole point is, the guy, it was a fake petition. But I'm not going to have those jackasses in my country when I'm done. It may have been a fake petition, but he's getting a feeling of how stupid the people are and how much they would probably go along with it. It's a good thing that I don't live out there because somebody come up to me with a question like that. He'd be picking his teeth out of my knuckle. One of the two or else he'll be picking them out of the concrete. Well, the problem is, that's where he's headed. That's the problem is, again, when you do this, you have to actually, what you're doing is you've got to do it in such a way that you can quickly neutralize it by making them understand, oh no, this isn't real. Because a lot of places people might actually just shoot your arse outright. The country is boiling to that point. But where the brain stupid are, like in California or the brain stupid in New Jersey or the brain stupid in New York, where you've got New York City as the brain stupid district, and then you've got them trying to bleed out to the rest of their state so they can ransack the wealth of the rest of the state. But look, I've seen Mark Alex Trump just going out there and trying to get lapsed and make his sight better. He's not, you know, that's BS. You should be out there strengthening the cause and making people understand why we need guns, not making a big goddamn joke out of it. This pisses me off, the guy. I understand. Well, the... Go ahead, go ahead, jump in there, guys. You also have to look at the benefit, even though this was a joke that was being perpetrated, You have to look at what it does. It tips you off as the mentality of some of the people that are out there. There are people out there that truly believe that gun owners ought to be rounded up and shot. That's no joke. But the thing of it is, you realize that and you have to be ready to respond accordingly because One of these days it's not going to be a joke. They're going to be at your doorstep and you're going to have to make that decision as to whether you pull the trigger or you let them haul you off to FEMA camp where they are going to kill you. So the first thing that you have to come to grasp with is when this comes apart like Mark is saying, they are coming for one thing and that is to kill you. So you had better have your mind straight that they pull in. I ain't waiting until they get out of the car. I'm tearing the car apart with everything I got. And for those who don't understand, this is why we talk about heavier weapons and fire power guys. Granted, 223 will eventually chew through stuff. But there are ample examples of ballistic performance with .308 30-06, your 7.62x54R. When it comes to any kind of soft skin or any kind of vehicle or piece of equipment where you've got to get through stuff, a bigger, heavier bullet not only goes in, but typically will go through everything on the inside and go out the other side. Modern cars are even less protection than anything else we've seen. You know, even windshields. Windshields offer actually more ballistic protection than the bodies of the cars do. Everybody understand that? Because of the safety glass itself, at least initial contact, multiple hits degrade the ballistic defense potential. But the very fact that the glass is typically in what is a slope that you find with armored vehicles and the fact that the glass is resilient and designed to again absorb a certain amount of energy based on the fact that it is safety glass. It's a laminate glass. It's layered with plastic sandwiching to make it safer so you don't shred your face going through the windshield. Well, in reverse order, the windshield actually offers some protection, not much, and you can't just keep sitting there behind the windshield expecting it to be hammered away repeatedly over and over again. The car bodies, plastic and sheet metal have been stretched to the minimal thicknesses possible. And the safety bars which used to actually offer cover for the doors, this is why everybody used to hide behind the doors. Guys, it used to be if you look in the older cars, your safety rail which was your side guard bumper rail was about the thickness of a safety rail that you see out there on the road that deflects your car on the side those double bumper rails. That's what used to be in the doors. Now there's a piece of sheet metal that was stamped so thin you can bend it with your hands. So the armor isn't there. Now the glass window offers more armor protection rolled down in that door because it's more stuff that your bullets have to go through. But here's a little hint. .308 goes through everything in that door, will go through anybody sitting in the front seat, and go through the other door. So if there's anybody behind the car on the other side, this is another thing about watch your backstop. Remember, if you're using, oh quote unquote, those obsolete rounds, understand that guys, you're going to be punch and punch and throw a whole lot of stuff. And modern equipment is not as ballistically resilient as older pieces of equipment and material that are out there. The engine does... Go ahead. The outdated rounds, Mark, you're not talking about the ones that have the black tips on them. Yeah, the obsolescent and obsolete. 30 caliber rounds that are out there. I wouldn't use one of them. They're obsolete, you know? Well, I would point out something else I noticed here the other day is some, they're actually, especially these law enforcement types, are trying to talk down all the heavy calibers, trying to convince you to go down to what they're carrying. And I've noticed this, there's a flavor to this. No, it's not accidental, guys. It's true, because I'm going to point out what I've said to you many times. You guys right now with the potpourri of calibers that you have are armed in a superior fashion person to person to your counterpart, the enemy you're going to be fighting. And the reason for this is we select the tool out of the toolbox. It's kind of like golf clubs. We have a selection of golf clubs. They're stuck with one. They've got to use one golf club for everything. Plus, the latest and greatest thing is the M16 rifle. Well, it's not the latest and greatest. It's a 50-year-old antique now. Okay? But it's in a woodchuck caliber. Well, what's interesting is some character made the comment without any scientific process going, well, I didn't see any greater potential or penetration with the .308 over the .223. It's like, oh my, ours. I have. What they're doing is trying to get out and poo-poo. What they're trying to do is the snide comments you used to see back in the 90s when they were trying to do the political correctness back then. The grossly overpowered 30-out-6 caliber. Why would you want that? Me. I want it. Me. I want it. If it'll stop when I want Abrams, I want it. Yeah, if it'll stop something bigger and punch holes through stuff farther, I want it. I want more energy than I need, so there's no doubt when I pull the trigger, I can take a chunk out of them, put a big stipply hole I can reach my hand through, or ideally punch through whatever's in front of them, then get to them, and then kill the guy behind them. If it's something I want to get into you see that that is good But you see what they're doing and this gets back to okay all these articles if you has anybody seen the latest condom droid that they're pushing You know that this one company out of California is gonna have the new condom slash anal penetrator Has anybody seen it? That's what it looks like it looks like some goofy. You know sex toy is what it looks like It's standing upright. It's like, and I'm supposed to, what about this? Well, this is the latest thing we've come, and they're trying to make it look more ominous by having no darker image. It's basically just the nose, like it looks like the nose cone of a rocket, okay? And like I said, what did they do? They took some cheap China plastic, put it over top of some screwy platform they came up with, and I'm thinking, wow, 30 out of 60, D-clip from an M1 Garand, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, It would be like little R2D2 going sideways going bah, bah, bah. But what their logic is that we're going to be using their weapons and their threat potential. Just reverse that. Think of different worlds and stuff you've got. We will eventually use their weapons against them when we wear ours out or whatever. We'll use ours when we don't wear ours. We'll use theirs when we need to when it fits. So we don't wear our weapons out as quickly. There we go. Now, here's something for you in theory. I've been thinking about this for a long time. For those of you who have a vehicle and you want some free bullet resistant material, now in theory, I have seen these road signs that 9mm will not penetrate, may dent it, but it won't go through. If you want some free and cheap armor plating, they're all over the road side. Just go over and harvest a few of them up and laminate them together in a sandwich and you got free armor plating for your vehicles. Oh, did I say that? Yeah, well anyway, in theory. You're talking about those steel road covers, you mean? Those uh... No, no, no. Your road signs. You know? Oh, the signs, yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, well they have to be hard and tough to withstand the wind that blows around them to keep them from bending all the time, so... So, they're pretty hard. Standard 9mm will not go through unless you're right on top of it. So, you get two or three pieces of that and laminate it together and what do you got? You got some free cheap... Now it won't stand up to like Mark says the heavier calibers, but it'll stop the 9mm and probably stop the 40S and W. Everything deflects energy number one, remember that. At laminating materials it can be wood, it can be plastic, it can be metal. Everything slows stuff down, especially when it comes to pistol calibers. When you start driving up into high velocity rounds it's then a matter of bullet design. energy distribution. If it's a soft point or a hollow point, guys, you're going to lose a lot of energy right off the bat. This is why, like I've said a million times on the air, I don't care what weapon you're carrying, but if you're going to be buying ammunition for the war effort, ball ammunition first for two reasons. Number one, what we're talking about, penetration. Everybody goes, well I don't want penetration, I want to turn it, it's a dirty hairy gun, I want to roll him over on his back. Well if he's wearing body armor and you hit him with an M2AP round, or you hit him with a 7.62x54R, most of the energy is going to be kept on him just like you were hoping for. So don't worry, you're going to bowl him, or you're going to knock him down a little bit. But most important is you're going to punch through that stuff he's wearing, or at least on the edge of it, and I don't care which way that goes. The idea is that I'm dumping more energy onto the target, and it's focused. Now, the other thing is range because I don't want to be fair and equitable with these creatures. I want to out-range them. I want to out-penetrate when it comes to hit. I'm going to have a lot more energy behind those bullets. I'm not poo-pooing your 223s, your AKs, or your AK-74s or whatever. You've already known and I've promoted them time and time again. But it's part of a combined arms team. The critical issue here is those light guns can be used for suppression guns. If I had 10 men and you have an AR-15, and I only had, not only, but let's say I have FN FALs, I've got a couple guys with Garands, I've got two or three guys with bolt-action deer rifles or whatever kind, and then you've got an AR-15, I'm going to tell you what your job is going to be. You're going to be the squad gunner. You're going to be the guy that I'm going to make the other side think has a full-auto weapon What I'm going to do is put a bipod on your gun if you don't have one I'm carrying a clip on one that I use for support I'm going to put it on your weapon and you're going to be told to learn to fire three to five round bursts pop pop pop pop pop pop I want them to worry about the fact you might have a chain-fed saw or you might have something else Now if I can't do it if you don't have an air 15 I'm going to tell the guy with the fal to do the same thing But everybody else their job is to hit Even that guy that's doing the bop bop bop, he should be focusing on suppression and still trying to every once in a while snag one of them. It will make him feel bad. Even though that weapon isn't as heavy, that weapon is also more affordable to use for suppression fire. Why? Smaller caliber, more ammunition carried. So in reality, if I even had submachine guns, I'd use them the same way. If I had a squad and I was into close quarter contact, battlefield, close contact warfare, I'd use the submachine guns as a squad gun. If I had select fire weapons, they would not be used for front and kick in. I would use them to create the illusion that I had a lot of squad automatic weapons. I would use them in that role until I could get something that was a squad automatic weapon like a mag 58, a saw gun in 223, whatever was out there. But in the meantime, that volume fire weapon would create the illusion of and teach everybody, would actually condition everybody to the basic contact concept of how a squad and a fire, how fire teams, forgive me, how fire teams, the building blocks, and a squad, the final solution, how they work. Now everybody else, that guy with the deer rifle, I don't want him to blaze away. I want that guy with that bolt-action scope rifle to start making misty pumpkin spray out of everybody he can. That Garand has got the ability to put round after round on target and with greater penetration. The squad gunner keeps somebody down, but if they take cover and it's something that doesn't offer a whole lot of cover, your nagot rifle, that .30-06, or that .300 Win mag with an M2AP bullet. Guys, I'm not going to wait for him to show himself. I can calculate where he is and I'm going to put bullets straight through what he's hiding behind and I'm still going to deliver as much energy just about as when I hit the front of whatever I had to get through. And look at it this way, once I get through, even if I had less energy, I've still got more energy than that .223 rifle would ever have. So, I don't have to think about this, corners of buildings, the guy is firing and he takes cover. If it's a .223 or a light pistol caliber, I may not grind through whatever is there. But if it's the right material and I can calculate what it is, I'm not going to wait for him to expose himself. I'll put one, two, and then three out of six rounds at about waist level right through that corner and I'm probably going to get some chewy stuff on the other side. Same is terrific. They take cover in odd locations that nay got that 762 by 54 are around That's a heavy battle rifle cartridge guys Experiment, look to see what that will go through. In fact you need to do classroom experiments where the 7.62x54R is the cheapest and it actually emulates the same thing that the 308 does with regard to performance. So I don't want to waste my 308 rounds. I don't want to chew those up. But I can take some cheaper 7.62x54R ammo, go out to the range and we can show people what will this go through. You see, what can it, or you know, again, set up a battlefield training area that, you know, where you have control of property, make sure you know where your bullets are going, guys. But demonstrate, you know, put up a wall. Show everybody, you know what, if it's got a clapboard wall, if it's got plywood, if it's got, you know, vinyl siding on the outside, if I put a 7.62x54R round into that, what does it go? Oh, it goes right on through. It's not going to be slowed down. You won't find a bullet lodged in the outer surface of that. Again, if it has insulation and a drywall on the inside, all of that creates resistance, but that .308 round will go through all of that. That 760 by 54R will go through all of that. Vehicles, it's a good, not just a blaze away at the vehicle, the idea is to put a couple of mannequins inside, actually try to simulate to the best of your ability the density of the target. Then hammer the thing, take each weapon and put a bullet through the side door and have everybody evaluate it. Everybody see what we're talking about. Because that creates confidence in your weapon systems, guys. How they work, what they do. Go ahead, Darrell. Jump in there, please. Back when I was going to gunsmithing school back in 1978, 1979 and 1980, we had some films. We had a Department of Defense US Army training film on the M1 Grand. And they had a bunker that was made of inches, I believe, of concrete and reinforced steel. And at 100 yards, they got back at 100 yards so that they wouldn't have any possible damage from any... ricochets or anything like that that might be caused. But they took that in when it ran and with one clip of standard GI ball, this was not armor piercing, one clip of standard GI ball ammo were able to shoot a six inch hole through that concrete. And that was reinforced concrete six inches at 100 yards. On that note, guys, even with your 7.62x39 rounds, there's an excellent series of videos done from Finland where they were trying to sell the Velma rifle. These videos are actually put out by the companies that make the weapons and showing some of their newer AK rounds. Take a look at the video because they show what it does going through cement block, cinder block, bricks, sandbags, and these are again laboratory type demonstrations where the video is very clear. It shows you the round, it shows them loading the thing, shows them firing the weapon at actually almost point blank range. And again, shows the penetration capability or the shattering ability of a heavier bullet with sufficient energy behind it. Now, again, on that note, I don't, Darrell, I don't know if you caught these, remember, about a month and a half, two months ago for a little bit, a number of 7.62x39 bullets came in, loaded rounds came in, with the heavier, 150 plus grain projectile, guys. 146 grain, 148 grain to 155 grain, and they were all military ball, they were the 7.62x54R bullet. loaded into the 7.62x39 case. Now again, they were gone as quick as they showed up. And what those were, those are mimicking the finish round that we're talking about guys. We're using the standard AK round or AK case. They chambered 7.62x39 but the bullet is a heavier, in fact it actually is more bulbous to the front because they wanted even more weight with the projectile. So, for all the logic and argument about going down, which by the way, well think about it, hasn't body armor been going up? Hasn't there more armor and stuff out there? Why would I want to go down in performance? Why would I want to have smaller and less penetration when right now especially everybody's told we're going to have hemorrhoids, nematodes, robots, robotoids, blah blah blah blah blah, well then we need greater penetration and we need to pile it up wherever we can. This is something that they do not want to discuss when it comes to the idea that all these older inventories of ammunition and these older weapons somehow are quote unquote obsolete. The idea is to understand what each tool in the toolbox does. and then you know engineer accordingly i'm not telling you to get rid of your two to three rifles but make it let me ask you something so you have to fire four five or six rounds to choose through something that with one kaboom not only do you choose through which you get through to the other side and do even more band damage to whoever's behind the character consider that especially with all these images everybody has been watching the video of this black uniform team that attacked a house here the other day and the guy was a vet that was inside. Nobody got shot, but they videotaped the whole thing. Well, it shows you again the Hut Hut crew. If you had a Hut Hut crew and they're coming in to combskate the guns, because they've all been told they're all puffed up and they can play KGB, you know, Interior Police, if you have a line of them in front of you, don't you want to get more with one? If you pull the trigger once, wouldn't you like to get two-vers? Wouldn't you like to get three-vers? Oh yeah. You see? So that's where the heavy calibers come in. Now, it doesn't mean you can't hose them down with 223 the same way, but I would start low, like I said, I'd cut their legs off. No, I'm just saying, just think about how you have to engage. And again, take a breath. Remember, they are coming to kill you, they are coming to take you to a concentration camp. They want to rape everybody in the house. They are going to have fun stealing everything and laughing about it. Well, you take that laughter and shove it down their throat right out their bung hole. You shove it right down their throat and you make sure they all die in place. Why? Because they deserve to. So if you are going to fight, you fight to win. That means that everybody on the other side is a reasonable target because they made themselves reasonable targets. Go ahead. to make them stumble and fall because that's what you're trying to do is get, because they hang on to each other and they follow through. There's about six or eight inches above the floor in front of the door. You run a piece of piano wire across there and hook it up. When they come in, they snag their foot, the first guy goes down, they all fall down on top of them, and then you just open up with your M1 Grand with some black tip bullets. Did I say that? He had them dirty old outdated black tip bullets and piled a whole pile right there. The idea is again, think ahead. The brag up right now is that their population is somehow mulled over. Think about what they were doing a year ago. Their logic was that their yes men had told them we're all just going to hand everything over. Connecticut just showed you a reality of where things are going. Now they're talking about an amnesty period in Connecticut so that everybody can come in that didn't come in. Kind of like what the Communists did in all the Eastern Bloc countries before they started murdering people there en masse in the next wave of communist red terror. Well, we all know better. So what's happening is the Communists aren't having their way. The only option they have is to go rabbit. and they're going to go stupid rabbit it's not an if it's just a when when that happens that's where all bets are off and all fair in love and war and we're in both so congratulations anyway we are at the top Darrell you're going to be where for the next gun show I'll be here in meadville at the Saratoma Club at the clubhouse on bone Street extension that'll be 22nd 23rd very good we have Craig from forbidden knowledge coming up next god bless the republic Listen to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire's on the run. And we're on the march, both days. We're on the march, both days. Don't forget to hug your rifle. See I told you that work almost like a bayonet you can kind of cauterize and you know move them along a little bit with that warm rifle barrel if they're still alive Anyway, Craig has copper rounds guys by the copper rounds from Craig. He has bought the dies the minute man copper round Fantastic, and they're very bright. Thank you, Daryl