Thanks for listening to Live 365. Our valued supporters know us well for our large selection of musical genres at the click of a mouse. But did you know you can now take the music with you on your smartphone? Learn more at Live365.com slash smartphone. Live 365. and much more. Do you own a firearm? MainMilitary.com has a large selection of pistols and rifles suited for your needs. Are your local stores sold out of ammunition? Call or visit them today for prices on hard to find ammo and bulk ammo orders. You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because MainMilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at MainMilitary.com. That's Main, like, the state, Military.com. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave, in this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the mist from whence he came, his words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the First hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kirky. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, central, southeast, and east. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. We're on AM and FM Micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska and our reflector, Indiana Freedom Talk Rich.com. We are on the Hallmark network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third, the fifth, the fifth, and our friends in the recall state of Colorado, waving the left coast, where we have the state of Jefferson, a golden beacon in what otherwise is an occupied area of detritus, debris, stench, sputum, where Feinsteinism and the diaper stain of brown bring us the California Soviet Socialist Democracy, the CSSD. Boots on the ground, communist occupation by the Chinese and other Asian Rim forces for foreclosure. That's the plan. It's obviously in the works. They're trying to get it done secretly. We're going to point out, buy more ammunition, pick up more mags, vote with your wallet. Yeah, kind of like what they did in Connecticut and other places. Anyway, turning back to the east, we sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and Atlanta, and the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge. Where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Ma Bell Grandma Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us The Golden Spike. Many hands make the light work. A million Petticoat Junction operators. The ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. So, for our friends out there listening, it is a beautiful... Well, it's Thursday, by the way. Do we have Don with us? Yes, we do. Well, there we go. Don, what's the date today, sir? What's jumping off the wall up there in that neck of the woods? 30th day of January. You're of our lord, 2014. Beautiful day if you like living inside a snow globe. I stole that from someone earlier I was talking with on the phone. Visibility is about 170 yards mark at the very most. And beyond that, it's like that must be the inner portion of that snow globe that is bringing all this snow that just won't go away. At any rate, beautiful day for this time of year. It's like what do you expect? one of the last days of the next to last day of January, right? Right steeped in the middle of the winter before you guys... Winter will kill you like a bullet. We don't need to dwell the hour on it. But hey, we could talk about... I know it's not a weapons Wednesday, but we could talk about your 1911, your AR-10, your AR-15, or any variant thereof. Your M1. Put your heavy winter gloves on, make sure your gun's unloaded and put a snap cap in it or something else along that line and just see how steady that trigger finger is when you've got a couple layers of cotton and leather and other things between you and the trigger and you know trying to move it into the trigger guard to boot because then your finger starts to feel as big as a boot, no pun intended. But that's just another thing to pay attention to because a lot of us are fair weather shooters. And, man, the weather is fair if you're a wolf or a wolverine. Wolverines, aren't we? Mark, I'll be quiet now. And for everybody out there again, guys, let's not forget, before we go any farther down, I want to benchmark, because we have a lot of people listening in the Echo here. In other words, the archives. And a lot of people listen because somebody passes it off to somebody else, to somebody else. For everybody out there, Don, you have night vision technology. We've got a lot of people that are looking at arming up. They are, in fact, equipping and arming up very quickly. Guys, deal with a friend rather than a stranger. Deal with somebody who has been in the Patriot Movement for a long time and stayed the course. Well, Don, that's you. You have technology available. First of all, explain to everybody. We've got a first generation rifle scope. And some other technology reasonably priced actually come down a little bit in price. Also, how can we get a hold of you? Well, right up front the phone number is 2317968458. Again, 2317968458. We could talk about goggles or gun sights, and that's pretty much the standard, the abbreviated version. Thermal or green screen, you know, green screen, starlight vision, or third, even fourth generation green screen. Or thermal, you know, heat vision, some call it flier. although that's a manufacturer, you know, forward-looking infrared and a kind of a designation overview, but heat vision. $400, I did mention that, that $400 first-generation gun sight. Last year you guys was $429. My price comes down, bam, your price comes down. I'm happy to do that because hey, I look at it like this and we're talking about an optical world here, so I can use that kind of like a pun but be serious at the same time. I look at it like this the more night vision I put in the field. That's somebody that's going to want to keep somebody busy over there that's going to want to come here to keep me busy, but rest assured, I'll be working at keeping people busy around here. So if we kind of share the load and spread it around, see how well it gets easier and easier, doesn't it? So there, believe it or not, there is, you know, it's behind this. But again, a first generation gun sight right in your mailbox for $400, you guys. That's a .308 capable, no problem. Your AR-10, your M1. FNFAL, this was perp who live on top of those guns. If you want to talk to me about that device, my number is 2317968458. There is a handheld heat vision, FLIR, right from the FLIR company. We mentioned that before. In your mailbox, for under $2,000, you guys. We can look at other things. We can talk about Thank you Mark. And again, a reminder guys, especially with the night vision rifle sight technology, we're looking at engaging at maximum ranges with extreme or with standard dark conditions, you know, O-Dark 30 operations. I would remind everybody that if we can increase the distance even by 50 yards beyond what would be considered the norm, you have dramatically changed the dynamic of the battlefield. Now you can do far better than that and there's an excellent article down by the way you want to write this down where you can get to it It is on from the trenches world report comm Henry always post some really cool stuff that you definitely want to share with people guys and This one is sniper basics for the shtf survivalist on the word. She feces hits the oscillating device You know what a s? s h t f stands for guys, okay? Now, one of the things that we point out, and of course it does bring out our favorite, you know, Simo Heja, of course, the Finnish sniper who killed 505 individuals within less than a hundred day period, of course demonstrating that one rifleman Well, that rifleman basically took out the equivalent to a brigade of infantry guys. All of them enemies of his nation. Yep. Each one dying, you know, respectfully, you know, and appreciably the way they should. Cold in the snow. Many of them they were able to pick clean later. As was the case with the Finns in general. Most people don't understand what I've talked about before. Pulling it off of the warm dead corpse of your enemy is nice, but the Finns had a real nasty technique since they were fighting a winter war. Pin down the enemy, shoot up a bunch of them, wound wherever you can, and just watch. And wait for the thermal chimneys off of the bodies to go out one after another. Then you really did have to pry it from their cold, dead, frozen hands. That's cold. Yeah! Every pun intended. Yeah! But it worked. But you know, they deserved it. They were stupid enough to follow the orders of their little communist kosher commissars, and they followed those orders to their death. Now, the same batch we're dealing with now, we're going to die the same way. But here's a fact. This gentleman, just looking at the numbers, as we've always pointed out, and by the way, it'd be a light battalion, but a company is 100 to 120 men, depending upon the army. With the Russians at that time, a little heavy, it'd probably be 160 men for a Russian infantry company. But that includes a weapons section and at that time as is always the case with the Russians. I have to point out something that should be the other part of this dynamic. It has been the policy of the Russian army to have placement shooters in every squad going back through the history of the communist regime. This is one thing that is true. If not a bolt-action rifle, a semi-auto rifle. Again, as we know today, all the way up to the SVD sniper rifles. Well, consider that in every squad there was a man that should have had comparable performance to the man that was taking them out. Not just special rifle teams that were hunting him later on, but remember in every squad there was a guy at least one. Also, there was at least one carrying a schlepping around a 50 caliber rifle, guys. Does everybody understand that and don't forget couple at least one if not two squad automatic weapons usually DPMs or something in that nature, you know the pan feds Squad gun that usually seen all those World War two movies, you know It has the pan on the roof and it's got the big long flash hider in the front kits for those who are available right now Immaculate ones that came from Poland and a lot of guys have built those guns back up and are using them or are ready to use them because the 762 by 54 our round is available but Here's the point For everybody talking about how we need the Super Deluxe 1000, multi-thousand dollar weapon to get the job done, do you think that that's what the sniper, Mr. Hayha was carrying? He was carrying basically a mildly improved standard finish Model 91 Nagat. The finish equivalent to, which by the way, we're tuned up a bit to begin with right off the shelf, the Finns made a better quality Nagat. A lot of you own them now. Why? Well, you might recall in the big wave of all these nagots down when they came in. Guys, remember that a big chunk of them first coming in were from where? They were from Finland. And a lot of you have those rifles in your inventory, remember? Now, in the later models, mostly all that we're seeing now, I think the fin rifles have pretty well been exhausted, the ones that have been released. I think the fins decide to keep a couple for at least a quantity for national treasure purposes. It's just that simple. But the nagats that are coming out now, still Octagon and round receivers, Bulgarian, Romanian, etc., are of comparable quality. Again, looking at them as basic marksman's rifles. Remember, their bulk comes to begin with. However, this gentleman basically killed five people a day and virtually destroyed the equivalent to a battalion of infantry. Some days were better than others. Now, imagine, and this is something that really the theme of this is, and I've argued this from the very get-go of being on the air, because traditionally we have trained riflemen in the United States. A rifle section where men focus on accuracy over volume fire is a devastating tool, far superior to an assault unit. In fact, remember, the problem with the whole puff-up about an assault unit is that you're supposed to wade your way through everything, provided everybody on the other side is convinced that your shuck and jive is going to work. Now on the other hand, a defense in depth, especially with, and if you see this in all these movies, everybody is convinced that they have to be at what is common, the common is made here, well most firefights take place at 50 yards. Yeah, in theory, unless you decide to change the dynamic of the battlefield, remember we're not going to let the enemy dictate that, are we? Repeat that, Mark. Now, the argument is that most firefights would take place at approximately 50 yards. Put a period there and then adjust that if you allow that to happen. Exactly. And again, remember, controlling, first of all, constantly as an infantryman, you need to be looking at controlling lanes of fire. Remember that even if you're in the field, even if you're in the field, a marksman is going to choose immediately searching or scanning constantly for a position that offers reasonable covering concealment but also selects what is considered to be a channel of destruction. Now I would point something out that a channel of destruction especially when you're infantry can be, it certainly can be a two-track which creates a cut in the terrain. But let me point something out, we're in the wooded lands of Michigan, okay? And depending upon, again, not just working by yourself, but especially as we've talked about over and over again, a defined and refined infantry team with a pivoting or shall we say a mobile light rifle section supported by a heavy rifle section, a heavy infantry section. The group that keeps them busy and actually dances the aggressor into the kill zones are the light riflemen. But in the same breath, a deep and well deployed group of heavy riflemen first choosing even in a hasty engagement guys, choosing lanes of fire through the woods. In other words, very quickly eyeballing and lining up deepest lanes of fire. Everybody goes, well there will only be a narrow opportunity for contact. Well first of all, you're highly focused, number one. Remember that you know the course or the motion of the enemy because you already have, you know again, you're progressively building contact. You may have already identified the threat in motion and one of the things that you do by having a fire maneuver element is to pull the target to where you want your heavy riflemen to engage. Now even if they don't do that in the melee of a battlefield, remember those first contact points where you start to destroy, you decimate the support element of any formation takes whole chunks out of what was the big plan for whoever it is that's coming at you. and the psychological process of losing progressively with minimal firepower expended remember it which would scare a person more but you know but i don't know about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about behind it you see Which do you think is more terrifying to somebody on the ground? I don't want to get sprayed with lead But spraying with lead especially when you hear crack crack crack crack crack and most of it's hitting the tree limbs 24 feet above you or 10 feet above even guys. Well, it's hitting tree limbs. It's not got me And while, again, this is one of the things about volume fire, certainly three and five round bursts and all the controlled fire ideas are wonderful, but if you change the dynamic, in other words, I'm not to engage with equal weapon fire power or equal weapons. First of all, I may have a contact method. I can use all kinds of deception for this. We'll pick and choose that when the time comes and you always change it out. But engaging at two, three, and four times the range. with minimal projected strength for maximum destructive potential. Totally, it's a mind screw. I don't care what anybody says. And that really is why, again, whole formations that weren't shot by Mr. Hayha slowed down a lot because they were worried that Mr. Hayha might be in front of them. Which is why eventually, Dom, the Russians had to send out counter sniper units, which by the way, then Mr. Heihan hunted separately and killed them all. Which then of course got back to the rank and file see this is the other part about cascading destruction like this When it's found out that yeah that whole bunch of girl puffed up and they put put put it and they got their black uniforms and their black armor and they're all lined up like ducks one behind the other hut hut hut hut and For the price of a minimal amount of ammunition. There's no more hut hut hut coming over the radio a little bit of And maybe some Maybe one or two. Because most of them aren't speaking anymore. They're leaking in the snow. They're painting the snow red. Now when that message gets through to the rest of the rank and file, there's a world of hurt waiting for you. Jumping out there and not being able to collect your pension is really not a happy camper idea. You see how that works? But the next component is, well then they're going to send Billy Bad Bud out there. Boy, he's the next best thing to slice white bread. They're the hard chargers of the secret police of the globe and they're coming in and bop, bop, bop. And bop, and bop, and ahhhhh! Oh, we missed one. Bop! Oh, he stopped screaming. Well now there's a big problem because they all know and they all had to tell everybody Billy Badbut's here and he's all puffed up He's going out to kill them Americans. He's gonna kill Americans big time. He's with the ATF or he's with the FBI and not only did you kill him But you gutted him a hung like deer somewhere. I'm not along the road for one of the APC's to find later Well, that message gets back to the rank and order here. Yeah, you see the problem is it's like one thing if the bat faggots and FBI were even Temi successful, but here's the thing. This isn't 1993 and we aren't Branch Davidians. Everybody understand that? So the planet changes dramatically here in terms of the concepts and perception and it starts with you taking seriously contact and engagement. Even if you are using a shotgun, granted there are places as we describe. And every time I see some of these pictures, I always hear all these idiots yap about militia videos where, well those guys are too close to this guy as this and then I'm like the guys in Iraq or Afghanistan, whatever. And then you go and watch these videos and they'll even refer to a video and you watch it and here's this cluster screw of 10, 12, 15 guys where one guy's peering around the corner and everybody else is just the opposite of how I was trained as a soldier and anybody else that's worked out there as a soldier with this cluster screw. of 10, 12, 15 men all piled up in grenade range. And I would say if I were, if I were, that tells you that, again, this is the other part I've talked about with the lack of training on the part of the aggressor that they're, you know, they're engaging, because if he had any real training, those cluster screws would be half casualties in a moment. You might not have a mortar today, and your friend might not have a mortar today, but one day, 4 or 6 mortar rounds would end from a distance called in. Or maybe 6. And again, they'd just wonder, where did that happen? Who saw us? And that would be the last thing, other than... Mommy even a rain of grenades. I mean one of the things I'm a mere rain It's just the idea if you think about it once you the problem with clustering up And this is why we have to remind you right about dispersion three on rolled in yeah, and they get in the middle in the end Yeah to eat to the sides first and then one in the center because what's going to happen is one way or another They're going to you know that you heard into the district in the cone of destruction Yeah, but what happens by throwing it to the outside first and then throwing that one in the middle No matter which way the ducks fly they're done Everybody gets a taste of steel. You see how that works? And that in and of itself, psychologically, is part of what you're going to be dealing with here in the future. Be prepared for it. This is why you have the light rifle, or if you're carrying that M1A, that's why you have the other 19 rounds. It's not so you can spray and pray and put three to five rounds down at range every time you want to pull the trigger on that .308. It's that most of the time it's, well, there's a whack-a-mole, boom, and you see that helmet spray in one direction and a lot of red mist in the other, and you know you got a good, you got a good healthy hit on that one. Round well spent. But then you turn and see just what I described around a corner where they're looking in the other direction. The battlefield is a mealy anyway. you never can fully control what's going to happen. You have to constantly be on your toes and be prepared to be mobile. But if I turn and see a cluster screw of idiots standing there like that, the next 19 rounds, that's where that large magazine comes in. Or that 30 round mag on that AR that you've got. Not so that you can burn 30 rounds to kind of not even come close. One round might come close because you barely aim, but the other 29 rounds are sucking air. And that's what does happen in situations where the units have not perfected discipline. Now, Hayha, on the other hand, did, first of all, it's both action rifles. So while he can get some uppetiness going by working that action pretty fast, right off the bat he's motivated to hit. Now there's another thing that everybody learns real quick. Hit him once and you don't have to miss him another 499 times. And remember, misses do not cumulatively collect value. Well I came pretty close to him, at least a couple hundred times. He should be at least scared by now. Well, actually no, past the first 20 rounds. He's going to hit the broadsucker again. Yeah, that sucker isn't hitting the squad. Okay. So again guys, think this through. The .30-06, what was mentioned this morning, the .765 Argentine. Guys, those are beautiful rifles, and while many of them were made in railroad iron, They really were. They were made from railroad stock. The early Argentines, the Argentine mouses were made in country in South America. They literally would chuck a chunk of railroad iron and then tool it out accordingly. And congratulations, they get an action, maybe two, out of the rail. At least out of the core of the rail, they get an action for the length of the action that they need, the piece of steel they cut. And they would get other components that would be tooled out of that stock. Now everybody goes it'd be kind of like I always try to downgrade that but have you ever looked at how railroad steel is built? Do you understand the quality and grade of metal that's being used? In fact by today's standards as opposed to the China junk Most all the rails that were being built were brought in from overseas out of either Germany or out of the United States and Out of England out of Scotland and Wales, okay Guys, we exported some really fine steel. So when they tried it, the only reason that propaganda is out there about, oh that was really stupid, look they made those rifles, the re- receivers out of railroad steel. Well they made them out of railroad steel because they were using American, German, or Austrian, or Scottish, or Welsh metal that was way beyond anything they could make, guys. So they were starting out with a higher quality steel right off the bat. Understand that. So they're not bad receivers. The only thing that is an issue with earlier pre-1903 rifles, now I'm going to point this out, is tempering. And it has nothing to do with what steel they started with. It's the fact that during that era of time the policy was single stage tempering for all receivers. So if you have an older receiver, and this is why I've said many times, guys, I don't need to make a dirty hairy Magnum gun out of every rifle I've got. I don't want three feet of flame gushing out of the end of that barrel. I want that load so efficient that it drops one bullet on top of the other, it offers no visible flash from the muzzle. And that's where the personal reloader comes in. Because each weapon, although the average, for instance, is a 765 Argentine, right now you can buy brand new preview partisan ammunition for that Argentine Mauser. Many of them have already been sporterized with scopes and Monte Carlo stocks. They're very comfortable weapons to fire. Now, we don't grossly overload. We go with a standard load, but we look at tack driving. And with a standard load in a standard 765 Argentine, guys, your performance is comparable to any 30-06 that is possessed out there. And that's where the mistake is made because these are single-tempered receivers and typically with single, since the earlier Mausers remember had, single cam locking systems. The big step up with the K98 Mauser was into the modern bolt locking system that everybody is more familiar with. Now, were those older rifles obsolete? No! But for a lot of guys that wanted to sporter eyes guns the reason a lot of these things got bad mouth is because everybody wanted to have a dirty hairy rifle everybody what wanted to build a you know something that would be the equivalent to a 300 wind mag or assembly to Remington mag and It just wasn't gonna happen with that weapon and since you're not gonna rechamber but use the existing case the next step was reloading Well, as long as you understand and listen to what Mark is saying, the Model 95 straight pull, the Argentine Mauser, Mr. Hayha's pre-1900 Maggot rifle, which was still a bit like a brick doghouse anyway, and many of these other pre-1900 rifles will kill people just as dead today and just as efficiently. In fact, maybe more so than in the past, because the ballistics, the bullets available the powders available and the optics that we can now pull off the shelf that were on the heard of back in his day could make every weapon out there that's everybody listening it has any kind of weapon like that has a sniper capable you know potential sitting on the shelf right now that's why i always have more i have had more fun it's kind of like you know is down you take a clunker car and build up and make it cool i've had more fun taking weapons so we said wasn't gonna work and building it up and cleaning it up and making it a tech driver out of the junk box. That old Moss Rifle I've talked about. Guys, when we were done there were people who looked really nice. Yeah, yeah, I cleaned up the stock and I linseed oiled it again back to where it should be, although it was a sporter I stock. And I re-blacked the whole action by using spray paint. Then I put that burr scope on the roof of that I even repainted the by the way the B squared mount was a little you know aluminum was a little tired in spots where had been worn because I've been carried in a case so I repainted all of that the new rubber butt butt plate on the back was reground I locked that into place perspex a couple of nice screws set screws and brass that were recessed into the butt plate to secure to the base of it and then I use the sander and ground that down and when I lint seed oil everything it all matched and oh it looked beautiful people were even were first they'd stop and look look oh what is that then they'd go well that's a moss and I'd say yeah that's a deadly moss that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that So, again, it doesn't make any difference where it came from. It's a matter of how you tool it up now, considering the resources available, and how you treat the weapon when you do take it in the field as a tool in the toolbox. With all the cool stuff that you can do with any of these already-supporterized weapons guys, they're just as tactical as the $3,000 hypersniper rifle that everybody's told they think they need. and you will and can especially working as a team. Mr. Hayha was working as an independent sniper but still remember all of these men fighting were part of an integrated battlefield. There were other men fighting at the same time and that in and of itself taking advantage of that and knowing how to work the flow of the battlefield is where you as a marksman are priceless. Think about it. At night, again, same issue. Just consider that every time you pull the trigger, your mission should be to hit. Not to miss, not to scare, but to hit. Unless you're pulling somebody. In other words, you've got Don's to my left and he's got that famous 50 that's his. Mark has his 0.06, his 0.03. We're at about 500 yards, but I want to kill real bad somebody that's near something I want to take. Well, then that 0.06 can be used to flush and that 50 caliber is used for what? To finish. Pinpoint. Yeah. Ooh, that had to hurt. Ooh! Look, two at once. Yeah, and especially. Again, probably the best example, well, I shall use that. I'll just say that there are many fine examples, realistically, of what we've seen done in the past with men like this with skill. I would point out that even through World War I, and in fact it's all been made to disappear. There is a discussion here in this article down about this. Guys, 900-yard shots were the norm for most of the riflemen and 1,000 yards on the World War I battlefield. Now, the other thing is that they were sending suppression rounds downrange constantly. You don't want to poke your head up when you don't know where the next .6 round is coming from, guys, because it could be coming from anywhere up and down the line in that situation. Understand that if you take the time and dig up manuals on the Model 1917 Enfield, our US rifle, and the Model 1903 Springfield, and the basic manuals that were issued to our men, Not only did the manual explain and have schematics that were machinist quality, machinist, they actually had foldouts around onion skin that gave the actual specs for the gun guys and this was issued to the average soldier. But on top of that, they explained reverse slope fire with rifle. They explained the use of reverse slope volley fire. You don't have a machine gun? Well get all those hundred men together. them use a spotter and call rifle fire in from reverse slope just like you would a machine gun guys These techniques were all trained to people who supposedly only had a sixth grade education. Oh And you supposedly have better right? So how is it in the year 2014 we're told we couldn't do all these things or it just isn't possible when 100 years ago a guy that had supposedly less education, you but I would say had more practical application with regard to the physical sciences and the physical world, which is why very quickly he could relate to the idea of applying that tool to those greater distances. See, that's part of the thing that bothers me the most. And it is true. One of the things about this article that I was talking about, the idea that they really do understand that a handful of men with heavy rifles can virtually tie up an entire country. Not just a battlefield, guys, but it could literally lock down any number of different situations. Now here's the kicker. How many deer hunters are there in Michigan? And I know the difference between somebody's, well, all your hunters, they still need to... If all they did was, if you just gave them a picture and said, see this person, everybody, this person is the priority. If you see it, every fire, all fire goes to that target. What do you think the survivability rating would be for somebody? If... Las Vegas wouldn't like the odds. No. And again, consider each state with just the same kind of violent potential available. We don't need to have all the people show up. As I pointed out, there's more of us than there are of them. There aren't enough black uniform moose to go around. If the policy was, you see a black moose, shoot it. And in fact, black uniform moose, and you know that there's, in fact, you consider this. Here's another thing to basically make as a rule, which is why the systems and the uniforms will change progressively too, guys. They will start to become less descript. because if you're on the battlefield and you see certain uniforms and certain characteristics and you're told if you see any of these before you shoot this, this, this and this if you can get that one and even if you have the option to go for a closer prioritized target if you have an option to go for this target it should be destroyed first this is basically what they do with pilots, artillery and everything else but the infantrymen are no different If I see a guy pointing, shoot him. If I see a guy with something holding something to his head, it's probably a radio. Shoot him. If he's got something that looks like it's a specialized weapon and everybody else is carrying a shorty M4, but he's got something that is longer, he's probably the one base of fire weapon they've got, shoot him. Yeah. If you'll... Go ahead. Jump in there, please. We've got a caller. Now go ahead, caller. Yeah, I mark this is mark. Did you see the norm was in that world war one was a 900 yard shot yes, yes, yeah, I I'm gonna be in deep trouble. I'm one of these guys who've Barely shot again at all all his life. I've learned everything from you and Henry on guns Bobby like if I can shoot 900 feet Yeah, I'm gonna be in damn trouble out there well no the thing is this but but you know what you were you were you're where are you right now? You're in the Mid-State, right? Yeah, well, I'm all over. I live in a truck, you know. Right, but the point is that most everybody comes from Pennsylvania, even here in Michigan. You can find ranges or private property even that will give you that 4, 5, 6, and 700-yard shot capability. And amazingly enough, the first rule is this. Understand, in fact, Our former 50 caliber shooter president, now at his feast, brought it up this way about basically learn with a .22 and you can take it to whatever caliber you want. Right, Don? Learn at 100 yards at .22 and you're learning at the same time the wind. That same scale, or rather you scale that up to a thousand yards and put a .50 caliber bullet in there and it all transfers over. Right. One of the most important things to understand about this is, unlike World War I, although there were a lot of optics on the battlefield in World War I, contrary to everybody thinks it wasn't the age of the dinosaur, I'm sorry. The problem is that most of those optics never got back to anybody, they were carried away by the troops maybe, or they were kept by the armies that built them because at that time those optics were state of the art. Even though they would later dispose of them as they changed other technologies, uh... the differences that a spotter typically would have a phenomenal set of optics to observe and literally he would call in his rifle fire on a large-scale not uh... individual shoot necessarily but there were and that they've always been designated marksman who identified to have better performance first thing they would do is start to upgrade their weapons now the other upgraded him personally Or the military itself would perceive the value and start to perfect its own family of precision arms. In most cases, all governments try to avoid that because, as is pointed out in this article, they're terrified of that skill. And it's really not that hard to perfect. Even for you, traveling the way you are, it's not that hard to perfect. But the first thing is to focus at the shortest range possible and work at tack driving. That is simply to create body memory, you know, muscle memory. Go ahead, Don. Well, again, you guys, you have to think that if I can hit it at 50 yards or if I can hit it at 100 yards, it's just farther out. It's just farther out. The basic principles, the physics of the dropper for a case of bullets are going to be pretty uniform. That drop at 300 yards from bullet to bullet, once you've built your drop chart for your gun, and equate temperature. This is something we haven't brought in in a little while, but you guys, if you had a chance or if you get a chance to get out and shoot during this cold, cold weather and can get a couple hundred yards, like a hundred yards and two and three hundred yards out of your gun, that will be the root for your drop chart for real, real extreme cold weather. Again, you know, some of us will build that drop chart in the middle of the summer. But once you have, that's a steady, that's a constant. The only thing you really have to be concerned with shooting at a distance is wind. And if you're shooting at 100 yards, you're starting to play with the wind, aren't you? And you know that the wind plays back, doesn't it? Let's remember that both the American Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, and the Civil War, rifle marksmen easily engaged at 300 to 400 yards. Everybody must address this shooting the officers' process. Yes, yes, remember? In reality, both sides, although what happened is we, from our perspective, we developed and moved into the battlefield with that attitude first. Then the British brought over technology, they perfected overseas to try and counter that. With that Ferguson and his 100 rifles. Exactly. And there it was only a shadow or a gasp of what had happened. We've been perfected in the United States in a very deep fashion that was ingrained into our men to begin with because if you didn't hit it, you didn't eat. And if you didn't hit them farther out, the savages when they got closer outnumbered you almost always. That's something to consider that in a battlefield situation that little bit of technology and again bows and arrows were out there in forests with the natives and in fact contrary to what everybody thinks. Bows and arrows were used by people on our side. Why do you think recurve bows are still out there today along with you know compound bows and everything else? Bows and arrows were never fully dropped. Never. They've always been there in the wing and in fact that's one of the things that's never really touched on or covered when we talk about these frontier wars. Everybody used everything and anything to get their hands on especially when they were new they were outnumbered from the get-go. So, rifle marksmanship at maximum range meant that you would start to pick off and decimate and you would also selectively choose your targets. You would be shooting the better armed or the more disciplined aggressors if at all possible. The one that looked to be the most rambunctious, the one that looked to be the most motivated is the one you're shooting first. The ones that don't seem to be quite as excited about the idea of being part of the battlefield, well, you save them for the later part of the menu. Why? Because they may not be as motivated to get in close and take the rest of the bite. Yeah. See how that works? Now, with rifle marksmanship here again, the most important thing... And I've made this a policy. I don't care what handgun it is. I try to take that handgun to 100 yards as quickly as I can. And the first rule is again, obviously controlled stance, two hands, not an offhand shoot, shoulder-width apart for the feet, again, slightly flex the body accordingly so that the muscles and the skeletal structure rests upon itself. But what I do is I line the side up, compensate for what is the estimated impact based upon bullet fall with a short barrel, medium barrel, or long barrel pistol, revolver, automatic. and observe because you certainly do have the time to actually see the round impact. Now this is good practice. because it does roll over even into the rifle marksmanship category in that in many cases, especially with modern optics, even though a spotter would be preferred, with your own optics provided you maintain discipline and don't, there's no flinch factor, and you stay on target with follow-through, you can actually observe your point of impact. Here's a tip, shooting a pistol at long range. Now this isn't something that I do a lot, shoot a pistol at long range, but here's a tip. I'm told, Mark, that most people, just by the way we're built and the way we're wired, they will bring the handgun up at 100 yards. You know that P plus P 9mm out of a 12 inch barrel drops 9 inches at 100 yards. That 9 inches means that one way or another you're going to have to tilt that gun a little bit. You're going to have to elevate that, right? the generally greater amount of people tend to lift the muzzle of the gun and obscure the target. What you want to do is keep the tip of the blade on the target while you lower the notch on the blade. So you still have sight of the target. You can hit a target that you can't see. As an example, someone in the brush, someone behind the 2x4 wall, it's a lot harder to hit a target that you can't see. If you have the ability to see it, why take that advantage away? Rather than estimate where the target is and lift the muzzle of the gun and obscure the target, keep the tip of the blade on the target and lower the back of the gun. accordingly. Watch your impact and adjust. And it won't be long. You're hitting at 100 yards. It won't be long at all. When you say keep the blade on the target, you mean the blade on the barrel of the gun. Is that the blade you're talking about? Right. You don't lift the muzzle of the gun to obscure the target. Just like the target is 10 yards away and you have the notch and the blade lined on the target like we are all taught, You lower the back of the gun a little bit, ever so slightly, and you're measuring that on the blade. You don't lower the back of the gun until you're looking down the notch two-thirds of the way up the barrel. It only takes a slight increment, one-fifth of the way, one-tenth of the way down that blade. Bring the blade up, still centered in the notch, with the blade on your target, the tip of the blade on your target, just like you would at 10 yards. Your long-distance shooting a hundred yards shooting it at with pistol will improve with leaps and bounds If you see the target while that trigger is being pulled, that's a great leap forward in hitting your target, isn't it? I'm certain we all agree on that. That's how to do it. Right. Thank you. Yeah, that's cool. I'd really appreciate it. Yeah, that's great information. I never I've never heard that before. That's great information. Remember that This is what is interesting, most of our heavy rifles that people consider to be obsolescent or they are considered to be bulky, big, whatever. In fact, the comment here is that the average deer rifle isn't necessarily going to be effective for combat use. The argument there would be based on the idea, is it an intermediate range cartridge that is being used? Many of the weapons that are out there right now that are used for mule deer are easily, the individuals easily engaging at 500, 800 and up to 1,000 yards. And not only that, we'll consistently take a deer at that range, that typically, although they may be static during the shot, in some cases the shots are taken while the animal's in motion. Sometimes that's select because it's kind of like a train wreck scenario. The animals in motion, you hit it even if it isn't a fully lethal shot. The fall is what kills the animal based upon the terrain, strangely enough. And that's something that is calculated. And of course, it also means packing animal out is a beast. But with regard to people, people knock down potential, in each category where we talk about short, I'll say it this way, light, intermediate, and heavy. Each one, as long as you know what its niche is, its potential to maximum range before you start to see a degradation or a drop-off in value, as long as you understand that, you know that at each of the maximum ranges for those weapons, you can pull the greatest potential of the weapon into your camp, onto your side of the game board. That's especially critical because Even the light rifleman has the ability to consistently hit, in fact, there's the comment made in the Patriots, aim small, miss small, aim small, miss small. Right off the bat, as long as we work out the idea of spray and pray, or volume fire for all infantrymen. There are individuals who are designated suppression personnel. Their job is to burn a little more ammunition, but they're designed to keep the other guys' heads down. as long as we understand that we're doing fine ninety nine percent of all the movies out there bs they as far as if you watch they intentionally are trying to condition everybody to all of these aspects and leave them throw mumblies out there like well you can't really engage past a hundred yards or well doesn't do you any good engage past you know fifty yards some of the stuff is being you know blatted back and forth will they do that intentionally why would you want someone to take a audio again if you're looking at the population of the enemy of the state Well, the last thing they want is for anybody to start thinking outside the box other than the one they put them in. So the first rule to remember is that 99% of whatever is put into movies or whatever BS is there, they try not to even plant the seed or the idea that every man can be trained to this level of performance. And in fact just in reverse, you know the smart guy, because the smart guy in the movie is the guy who puts his weapon on a 45 degree angle and does the homie shoot and you know dumps a magazine out there just to hit a target and barely does that. But the homie shoot is just so much more important. Don't forget, as soon as the gun's empty, you gotta throw it away. Yeah, and you have to throw it at it. Yeah, you either throw it down or you're discussed, because it's empty. Now your enemy doesn't know it's empty. But you do, and so you're disgusted, or you want to be a target for your enemy now that you've disarmed yourself, he realizes, hey, this schmuck doesn't have a gun. Whereas on the other hand, I wouldn't know if you popped out and you take the attitude that you're actually going to aim, I'm going to probably get out of the line of fire. So again, the weapon works psychologically until such time as maybe you recover magazines or maybe you at least get one or two rounds to put back in the tube. Or you get close enough that you use it like just a crunching weapon. Exactly. That pistol is better than my fist. Yeah, I don't care what anybody even if it's plastic that pistol is better than my fist. Take my word for it. You fold up one of your knuckles on your opponent's skull. Your hand is, take my word for it. Your hand is out of operation for about when you're like 26, 27 years old for about three weeks. Yeah. And here again with regard to marksmanship and the objective is to, especially with a combined arms team. is to take and have a heavy weapons section. Ideally what I would like to see would be two squads of mobility fire, which would be light rifles, and two squads of heavy infantry weapons. Now, mixed into that or as a fifth element would be a squad of support weapons. That can be anti-tank devices, belt-fed squad guns, BAR type weapons, whatever you got. But those weapons would create yet a third element in the dance of swords that we're talking about. As an individual rifleman, it still comes down to, again, hit it and you don't have to shoot at it again. And we have to run that discipline even into the semi-auto cruise or the full-auto rifleman, because most of the time they don't need to use select fire. In fact, again, what type of psychological edge does that create? When there isn't this massive din, but it's realized that oh, yeah, there's 40 men out there. Let's talk about 40 men. I'm sorry to interrupt. We're down for moments here, you guys. When you look at a 30 cal or a 50 cal on that tripod, most people don't know this, but you know there are adjustments on that to contain the azimuth of the gun and to contain the elevation of the gun so that you can adjust it and work it in a very small area. People think that, oh, look, that machine gun is just rattling off and that guy is just holding it in one place. Well, half of the tripod is holding it in one place too. This is the recoil of automatic weapons. If you think along that line and try to think of a burst running down that squad and just let the gun run that way for that instant, think about it. Again, you guys, on a tripod mount for a 50 or a 19-19, there are traverse and elevation adjustments that can contain the gun into a small ... Literally, Mark, you nailed this down to the small area and you're putting bullets into a 100-yard area that's a mile away. You're making it rain, so to speak. Think about it. And again, everybody out there, the idea is plant this seed early on with all of the young shooters that you're bringing into service. Again, remind them, the most recent things, I don't know, there are so many examples that Hollywood has intentionally generated. It needs to be driven out. They're entertainment, but they're not logical, especially in survival situations or in, you know, progressive technological deprivation states. In other words, we go from having a whole pile of goodies to progressively using up what we have. And unless we have some, you know, redevelopment of industry, remember that degradation is going to be progressive with regard to potential. Well, to stretch that rubber band out to buy more time so that your industrial potential can catch up with consumption, guys, accuracy over volume fire. Accuracy over volume fire. Even with any tank weapons. Oh yeah. How much can you carry? How much do they weigh? You know, see how that works? I don't care what the hell it is. And even with main battle, even with main tank weapon systems, you know, spray and pray works if you got a football field, a pile of garbage behind you, but what happens when that's running out? We don't wait until that happens. We should be in that mindset from the get go. Well we are at the top. Don, your number for Night Vision, please. Dead numbers, two three one, seven nine six, eight four, five eight, two three one, seven nine six, eight four, five eight. Very good. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Hurrah, kick him to the slats, beat him down hard, don't let him get back up. And if they try, well, bust him again. Don, close us with your number and we'll be back in a few minutes. 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