January 29, 2014
Evening Show
1h 8m
Complete
Radio Episode
2014
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Mark Koernke and Don Butcher hosted an evening broadcast on January 29, 2014, covering preparedness, firearms, ammunition sourcing, and tactical training. The show featured extensive discussion of surplus military rifles (Mosin-Nagants, Argentine Mausers, French rifles), ammunition availability and pricing, airsoft training systems, night vision equipment, and tactical concepts including cascading fire techniques. Callers inquired about rifle modifications, scope mounting, and ammunition sourcing. The latter portion shifted to forest observation principles and permaculture food production concepts, including the seven-layer forest system for establishing food forests.
- mosin-nagant
- argentine mauser
- 7.65 argentine
- scope mounting
- airsoft training
- night vision
- ammunition sourcing
- preparedness
- tactical training
- cascading fire
- surplus rifles
- food forest
- permaculture
- weapons wednesday
- ar-15 parts
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He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. Invist the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right. And pray to God, get the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm our funky and I'm Don Butcher one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories east, southeast, west, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on liberty3radio.4mg.com. We're on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the hallmark network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida to the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, Big Junk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both 3rd and 5th pit and our friends in the Recall, state of Colorado, waiting to the left coast where the state of Jefferson and the occupied zones are sitting there for our people fighting behind enemy lines or dealing with a problem. Congratulations, keep up the good work. We understand the troubles you're dealing with. Turning back to the east, we sweep across the plains, leap over the Burghney Bank, Mississippi, land of Smoky, slash Blue Ridge, where the restaurant crews, grammar teams, okay teams, and the mouth ale Grammar Consortium bring us a golden spike. Don, it's dark outside. What is the day today, sir? What is this day? Market is the 29th day of January. Year of our Lord 2014 it is. We're a beautiful day sun shining and actually we got some melt off the roof and in some other places although the ground is not falling. You know how it works. It's winter time and hey we're doing a little better than Atlanta because we know how to drive in the ice and snow but I'm not. anything at you. I'm just trying to point out the winter went way deep into the nation, hasn't it? Man, oh man, and it's cold where it shouldn't be cold, but again it is the 29th day of January and we're moving out of this, so there's always something to look forward to. It is a particular day and something else to look forward to is like the magazine in the magazine well and hey, one in the chamber. I like that. That's something I can depend on my 1911. God bless John Moses Browning. But you know what, there's nobody banging at the door so I'm going to drop that magazine out and I'm going to pick up that other cartridge, some call them bullets. And I'm going to press down and backwards and the magazine is full again. And now the magazine well is full and we can tell everybody that it is weapons. Wednesday the perimeter is secure and most certainly there is plenty more where that came from. And we can now offer equal opportunity, coercive force as needed. For everybody out there it is a beautiful weapons Wednesday it's dark it's clear it's going to be colder still tonight it's wintertime you all better be ready for it make sure you got your gear equipment squared away it is of course uh... a solutions evening that we don't talk about weapons ammunition radios whatever you want to its our network we do we want uh... for a friend of the chair in their congratulations although the prices well you have to decide if the price is right but right now don We have with one of our friends here. We have listed in arms list That's www.arms list.com I'm gonna give the number out so if anybody just wants to get hold of this guy if you think this price is reasonable It's for sale junior steel case Russian ammo 22 long rifle ammo $5 for a 50 round box. Well, it doesn't make it real cheap, but 450 a box or $40 for a brick of $400. So, Steelcase, this is some of that stuff that came in before. It's the Junior Case Ammo made in Russia. Probably bought back when the stuff came in, in good force. This was posted on January 10th, which is a Friday of 2014, so it's been about, what, almost 20 days ago. But, might Bill still be there, or should still be there, I assume. If you want to find out more and call to find out if this ammunition is within reasonable reach, it is in the Wilkes-Barre, Scranton, Pennsylvania area. And the phone number is 570-574-4645. 570-574-4645. 570-574-4645. We know this stuff works. Actually, what this stuff was made for is for the .22 caliber cadet rifles and training rifles that the Eastern Bloc made in force. The Russians, of course, still have weapons out there, so do the Romanians, but they've sold a lot of their Com Bloc era arms on the open market, so they're out there in force, along with their air rifles from Romania. You've seen a lot of those. The ammunition, let's see if there's anything exotic here about it, junior steel case, 22 long rifle ammo, 450 for a box of 50 rounds, $40 for a brick of 500. So there you go, that's at least somebody who's got it in stock, how they've got it and what they have. Well, call them and find out. It's 570-574-4645. That's 570-574-4645. If you've got a bullet burner and a .22 and you need more .22 ammo, maybe that's within reasonable driving distance for all of you out there. If you are listening, that's what you need to do. Well, that's what you need to do, kids. It comes in, by the way, they're saying it's waterproof. This is the waterproof yeast block, quasi-wax plastic paper that they wrap the bundle of ammo in. So if you want to check it out, you can go to arms list. I don't see a spec number for what you have to punch in other than, again, Junior Steel Case 22 Long Rifle Ammo for sale. Again, that is $5.70, $5.74, $4.645. $40 for a 500-round brick. If that's better than what you've been paying and if you can drive over and pick it up or intercept it, then that would be your best choice. Thanks to the guys in the chat room for finding that and we're going to make sure we pass the word on to everybody so they know where to go. Also, real quick, I don't know how many people saw this, really it was kind of interesting. Giant hologram of Turkey's PM in the sky. There is a YouTube video. I believe that Craig might have it on page two, I think that's where I spotted it the second time. But Henry from the trencheswillreport.com, I'm pretty sure he had it posted so you can go back to the scroll. The title of the video is Giant Hologram of Turkey's PM in Sky Video. And for everybody out there, take the time, plug in, check it out, and I would point something out. I'm sorry guys, that's not going to scare me. Would that scare you unless you were some tribal nut in a grass skirt out in the middle of BFE? Somebody projecting a picture to make me feel bad isn't gonna do them any good You know yeah, it's like oh Don't we feel scary? It's a hologram yeah, we all live in the modern age yeah, are any of you guys bone-in-the-nose you know sycophants chanting to the Mayan Sun God or something uncle wonka well no so Why is this going to scare you? Well, go kill the guy running the hologram machine. It's probably fairly small. What's your point? What? Yeah, we'll just walk up and shoot him and be done with it. He can put something else up there, like a big hand with a finger sticking out in the middle. How's that sound? Mickey Mouse, yeah. Yeah, there we go. It would work out just fine. Oh, we can't do that. But the whole idea here is the god-like images. What's no god-like image? It's a hologram. In fact, it's Punky Junkie technology nowadays. You mean they couldn't do better and make it clearer than it was? It was kind of crappy to me. Whoever the hell it is up there, especially with the Turks, maybe a picture of Jesus Christ might scare them, but even there, it's like only for the uninitiated savage. Any of you out there, uninitiated savages? Not me. Not that I know of. So again, everybody who go, whoo! The big finger is sticking the equipment and doing stuff like that. Oh, they'll waste their own equipment once you've got it. Wait a minute, that's not how it was supposed to work? Yeah, yeah, you know how it is. So anyway, or you can put that picture of Barry Sartoro token and looking like a lid head. You know what I mean? Come on. There you go. Yeah, fearless leader, man. Dude, he looks like he's high. Yeah, he's pretty worthless. But he's not even really the fearless hero. He's just the meat puppet. That's all there is. Anyway, just point out that one too real quick for everybody. Kind of fun to look at, but that's not waste too much time on that one. That's just where it's like, yeah, yeah, oh, the gods from above it. Wait a minute, there's no such thing. They told us to ignore all of that nowadays. So why would we be doing the, why would we even be excited about that if we saw that? Here's the criteria. I pointed this out the other day, Don. If we go along with there, we need to drop our Christianity and everything. What big deal is it about the Israelis? Why are we supposed to be following those fools around? Well, but you had their spat and other that. You told me I got to throw out my religion and I got to ignore all of that. It needs to be in a box somewhere. I put it in a box. So you mean nothing to me, pig. What's your point? Well, well, no, we're special. You ain't no more special than the other kid down the street there and he ain't too special to me either. So go stuff it up your hind end. Oi! What do you think about that now? Oi! Oh, no, no, no, you got to go back to licking our crotch. Now, I was never licking your crotch to begin with and by the way, I get that close. I'm using a knife. Yeah, you'll be singing soprano real quick. How's that sound? You see? So for everybody out there, again, it's the same with this stuff here. It's like, are you worshipping these guys? You know what? Wow the prime is the Emperor's up there You know I can Star Wars It's like maybe it's great for a 3d communications because it makes you feel you know good because you're looking at a picture of somebody I guess That never really seemed to be critical to me because I grew up in the land of telephones where you didn't have a picture to look at in the first place remember that we used to be like using our brain and talking to each other yep, yeah, see so Yawn So, again, everybody out there, unless you're the uninitiated savage that never saw technology in your life, this isn't exactly one of those things that's going to make me worry a whole lot about anything other than finding the sucker operating it and getting rid of him. How's that sound? I don't, I really don't want to do this, Don, but I'll mention it. For everybody out there looking for muscle memory training aids right now, let's see if I regret this. airsoftstation.com They have a whole bunch of handguns that are very reasonably priced and for training aids to teach your wife, your kids or other shooters, you know, new shooters how to handle equipment, these are fantastic training aids. Not to mention, I'm sorry, fire form. How about disarming training aids? It's real good to do with a gun that won't fire just by accident. And the neat thing is that these things they have a whole pile of AR-15s that are in the $23, $25 mark that are metal component You can't tell the difference between this and the real thing even on top of these guns guys. So again, for training aids or for movie props or whatever else you're going to do, they're perfect. Go ahead, call or jump in there. This is me, Peter. I couldn't help but when you talked about Tram and the US being introduced to something, there's a great movie called The Gods Must Be Crazy where I don't know if you remember that movie but the... The Discovery of the Code of Life. go viral, I have all the problems with the triclobulinum, you know, if you mentioned that, I thought it was funny. One of my favorite movies actually. Yep, exactly. Well, in this case, it's like I said, for all of us, I mean, unless something's really goofy with your brain, I mean, did you fall off the planet? We've been saturated with video and movie production for years now. If I saw anything like that, it'd be like, man, I know where to drop my artillery now, don't I? Well, if they've got a hologram projector over there, that's probably a command and control element, or at least somebody I want to kill. Fire! You're supposed to be bowing on your knees and going, oh, the hologram god, the hologram god. How would that impress me? Think about it. How would in any way, shape, or form should that impress any of us? I really get to the point where are they really so far behind the curve and understanding people out here that they actually think that that's somehow going to make us go, whereas in other words it's more like entertainment. You might clap, but you're clapping because man he spent a lot of our money and this is a really crappy image. clap because he's a dictator. You know what you saw with the BS last night in Washington. Everybody standing up, sitting down, standing up, sitting down. Now there's an example of craven bootlickers that really are unclean savages. They might be fooled by the holograms because most of those are stinking cowards anyway. So they probably drop down on their knees and start, I am not worthy, I am not worthy, I am not worthy. Remember Bill and Ted's excellent adventure? Yeah. It's good. It's got Turkey, Natalia. Oh, it's Wayne's World. That's right. Wayne's World. Sorry, go ahead, call your temperature. Turkey, Natalia. Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Am I even interested in anybody from Turkey in the first place? Think about it. But you know, that's how they're thinking, guys. And it's like, you really don't have a clue how we feel about you out here, do you, fool? You know, that's what gets me when you look at these characters because they're all being told, well, we're going to be just so awe-inspired. No, I worry about nuclear devices. I don't want to be near one of those. I worry about weapons that, you know, do big boom things. I want to make sure I steer clear and maneuver away from those. But I'm sorry, hologram projections are to me, it's like, like I said, hey, dump a couple of 81s that way. What? Yeah, it's got to be something valuable nearby that. Let's see what happens. And then you see the hologram image kind of shuttle for a minute. Then the projector, collector, kind of the angle sideways, and you see the shocked expression of one of the operators, blood all over his face. He's screaming and thrashing, and there's a big, like, 90-story hologram of him dying and withering in flames. That'd be cool. Never saw that before. I guess you hit it Frank. What do you mean? Did you see that? Yeah, everybody saw that. Now everybody wants to do it again, but they don't think we get such a lucky shot. You know what I mean? And he might get on here with it too. Oh, it burns. It burns. You know, that kind of thing. So who out there would be awe inspired? No, I'm not. I saw that in a movie 20 years ago. Sorry. In fact, we've got to admit something. It was in He-Man. You do remember that, guys. I'm in the sky! Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga, Ruga They're kind of desperate to move in any and every direction they can, but they're so far behind the curve with a lot of this, you just kind of have to scratch your head and go, well, these people really are dumb as a box of rocks, aren't they, sir? Real quick, I want to get back to this. The Airsoft Station Parts guys go to the Boneyard. They have a lot of stuff there. I'm hoping you aren't going to get there before I do, though. I will say that. You'll notice there's some really, really good prices on certain things. I mean, like really, really, really, really, really good. to the point where you can really really afford to have a not just one or two but a like four or five of them. I'm serious. They can go through their bone yard section. Bone yards. When you go to airsoftstation.com go to specials. When you get to specials over on the left side bone yard will show up at the bottom. Tap that and there's a whole long list of all kinds of stuff. And they do have a dragon off. I hate to mention that because it's a nice one. And they've got an M14, and I really hate to mention that one, but it is a little more pricey. However, it's about a whole, it's less than half the price they normally go for. in both cases. The SVD, excellent especially for giving people quick familiarization on the weapon. The M14 knockoffs, same thing guys. Most people have not handled an M14 nowadays because they're so pricey. Well, this gives you the ability to at least give them a little time with something to familiarize themselves with the shape, feel, and you don't have to worry about handing it back over the table at the gun show because you can only touch it for a few minutes because you had to beg to handle it in the first place. Well, ask, where can I touch this gun? Oh, but don't work the action. You drop it, you bought it. Yeah, exactly. So instead it's like, well, we're not going to drop the gun here anyway, but we are going to be careful with it, right? We're going to learn to use it. And I'll give you some instruction. Anybody else? Plus, there's a lot of other junk they have out there. That you know is neat. There's you know MP fives in all shapes and variants in all metal right now I mean anything you can think of if you really want to fiddle with it why you know you can fiddle with the airsoft gun and Get a good understanding of what they do how they work how they feel how you'd handle them to get the weapon on that you know into service The whole nine yards guys and yes, there are bolt guns there too plus they have an all-metal 870 pump gun airsoft for $28 And it's an all metal airsoft shotgun. Wow. So for $28 I can fiddle part with that and see what's going on with it. But definitely again if nothing else great training aid. Like you said Don, give you a chance to practice. You know, how do we deal with this? Oh, we're close and personal. It's going to be mine in a moment. Quick and here look it, I've got a shotgun. Yep. So again other things here real quick. We're heading towards the bottom of the envelope already. AriesArmor.com. The other part about this is building up AR-15s, guys. We need to save the ammunition, but we also need to get time. Again, we need to get time on the range. The Airsoft will give us the build. We can buy whatever Airsoft we want that matches whatever AR-15 you build. Seriously, there's no reason for that not to be the case, and they're offered in any configuration, any size, any shape. In fact, most of the goody doodads that are on your real rifles are all built and attached to the airsoft weapons. There really isn't any difference. In many cases they just put the same parts on the airsoft guns and you can't tell even holding the weapon until you actually start working the action or something and if you're familiar with variations and how the airsoft are done then you will recognize it right away. But for the most part even picking the thing up and standing there with it in hand the average person would not have a clue that they are not handling a real firearm and that's a big plus. Remember, those people overseas that we're fighting, how do they get any range time? See, that's why everybody brags up. When you think about it, the people we've been fighting don't have any range time, guys. When they put people in the field, those people are out OJT-ing it. We're way ahead of the curve on that one because we've had a lot of decades of experience. Almost every one of you has been a shooter from probably a from the time you could hold a weapon at least you pull the trigger at one point so you had an idea that some things go boom. After that once you saw how it works as soon as you could buy some or somebody to get you some ammo you were on the range. And that progression in terms of understanding firearms is a priceless learning curve. Now let's make sure we take advantage of what we've got and we have other training aids to keep things quiet so a majority of the training that we can do nobody will even have a clue it's being done. See how that works kids? Pretty straightforward idea there. Pretty straightforward system. Also, let's see what was the other thing. AriesArmor.com, of course, for the polymer receivers. Need to clean the shelves off is what we need to do. I would also point out that if you are going to be looking for AR-15 parts, www.del-ton.com, Delton or Delton.com, however you want to pronounce it. They do have parts even if they don't have complete kits right now. They do have some but not very many and even then I would check before I would order. I would not order through the computer. I would call to confirm that they have it before I order it. I'm very serious about this because again with the way these things are going off the shelf you might be waiting seven weeks before you get something. Whereas if you do it in pieces between everything you can get from one source and the one or two items you need from another you can have that weapon online within a week. And that week will make a big difference down the road here. You've got to keep that in the back of your head that we don't know when things are going to kick off and we need to be thinking that way constantly with regard to operations and production. Now on that note, and again, the Delton kits, Delton kits, are about $490 a piece. They've got a 20-inch rifle kit. Again, call to confirm that they have the barrels in stock. That has been their shortage or weak point. Now, Delton makes their own barrels. So whatever it is you're going to choose to do there, go ahead and go in that direction. Don, I know you've got more. Jump in there, please. And again, we're almost at the bottom here. So night vision technology. How can we get ahold of you and what do you have? And then go from there, please. Well, right up front, the phone number is 2317968458. Again, 2317968458. We can talk about goggles or gun sights, you guys. I've got a two-tube, first-generation goggle. You can read the numbers out of the phone book. That's how fine it focuses up close. With that you could throw sutures. If the blood had looked green, no, you're not working on an alien, but there are other again. We've talked about getting used to things, but that would be something, you know, practicing suturing on your apple or your orange or probably, you know, something along that line. But again, you guys, imagine not wanting to turn on a light but wanting to get something done at arm's length. And a two-tube system will give you that semblance of depth perception to the extent that when you reach for something, you'll actually, you know, your fingers will close around it instead of a one-tube system or a system that is two or three or four power. By the time you get up to two or three power, you can hardly focus on your feet. Focusing up close isn't going to be something that you want to do with this. This goes over to the right tool for the right job. If you want a single tube held on your head by a headgear, I can do that for under $300 right in your mailbox, a single tube first generation. The aforementioned two tube system that'll have headgear too for under $600. Just the right tool for the right job. That's why I mentioned a two tube goggle and a single tube first generation piece that are both headgear, you know, giving you a hands-free system. We could talk about gun sights or other handheld viewers, be they single tube or binocular. We could talk about thermal too, but hey, my number is two three one seven nine six eight four five eight, again two three one seven nine six eight four five eight. I'm not certain, but heard a number of Dings in the background perhaps we have a caller waiting yo hey, what you got we got your caller? Okay, this is rest hot and fillequin jefferson. I talked to Dom the other night. I'm picking up to Mouse and a get rifles. I need some information. I need to turn the bolts and What is a decent light for the barrel those things you've got like what a 30 inch barrel I would leave the barrels the way that they are I highly recommend that because you shorten the barrel, you've got burn powder. Remember you're using military ammunition for most of what you're doing. The mill load was based upon that length of barrel. If you shorten it, example, the carbines, I've warned people, when you buy the moison they got carbines, remember that's a much shorter barrel and you have a big muzzle flash. So my son has one. My son has the carbine. The carbine and when you pull the trigger you've got a little more of a flare. Imagine you'll have much less with the standard barrel to begin with, number one. If you look, in fact the guys in the chat room may post this again. There are some really nice, although they're expensive, custom all-polymer stock systems they've come up with. for the nagot that are on YouTube. If you punch in YouTube modifications for the nagot rifle or you know like, moist nagot rifles, there'll be a wide variety of things that are covered on there to include showing people that have modified the guns to sporterize them in different ways or to tactically improve them or modify them in other directions. Now there's a couple stocks, one of them has a 10, 5 or 10 round detachable magazine built into the stock It's completely ergonomic, it's definitely a sniper package the way it's set up. If you're going to turn the bolt on one of the other solutions by the way, let me see if they still have them there, www.centerfiresystems.com. They offer a system that is a switch out so you turn the bolt down if you're thinking about scope mount, you're thinking about scope mount, right? That's what you're worried about. Yeah, I want distance, I don't want or for your captain for that right uh... well the uh... they got where insights will reach as far as you can see without a problem there were there good that direction but again now with the scope mount system uh... you can do anything with a with a seven sixty by fifty four you can do the three oh eight or with an out six sold by definitely the rifle has the potential that's not a problem let me see if they have them here to go to center fire systems dot com They have all got huggy bear and silver bear. They actually have a whole bunch of nagot ammunition available to right now in mixed types, but What I'm looking for here is they have a turn bolt kit and let's see if it's in the parts and pieces and assembly still in For the nagot parts kits. Let's see if it's in parts kits real quick The price is pretty reasonable. They've had these for quite some time. They've been out there and they've been in service. A lot of people have already done the modification to the rifle. You will find those again if you go to YouTube. You'll find a lot of examples of what we're talking about. So we don't have to guess on this. Now do you think this is going to work? Now let me see if it's in others. I'm going to go to other parts here. The kit comes complete, it usually has the drills, it has a turn down bolt already with the package. You may have to do a little searching. One of the ways to do that is to go to again, center fire, oh yep, it is right here. Oh, that's the Mauser version. Well, they got the Mauser model still. But if they have the Mauser they should have yep, they do here it is okay. It's on page two first of all go to Center fire systems comm then go to Miscellaneous Okay, okay now when you get to Miscellaneous go to page two of Miscellaneous and They're all down and almost it's the second to the last line on the right side Moisin nagant bolt bolt handle and it's got all the tools and everything in place. It has the drills, it has the tap, everything is there that you need and it's $22.99. Take a look at that and see if that will serve your purpose. It sounds like it will. And that's a spoon type. It goes down on a taper and it's a complete fixture. Everything is there ready to use. What do you use? You use the whole bolt or just now the bolt and it's the new handle. Well, in this case, this is actually going to be a follow the instructions. Stainless steel bolt handle includes complete instructions, drill bits and tap. Fits any moist and nagot handle. So take a look at that and see if it's what you need. The item number is M-N-T-M-O-I-H-D-L. That's M-N-T-M-O-I-H-D-L. Now that's one version, but I know I've seen another one also. So take a look and see if they have more than one offered on the page. But that one I found right away. And I know guys that have used those to upgrade or change out because they wanted to put down this night vision or they wanted to put a big scope on the rifle. Well that's what I was headed for eventually. First I want to get the scope. and then go to Dog's First Generation. Now one of the other things about these Nagots, if you look it up, maybe you can find out your way over on your side of the mountains because they're more common out there still. B squared made a non-tapping scope mount for the Nagot. B Square used to make them for everybody. Now there is another company that makes a copy of all the B Square mounts, and forgive me, I don't have the name of it right here in my fingertips, but I know that I've seen them and some companies carry them. One of the places that I would look for that is at PalmettoStateArmory.com. Now Palmetto has a lot of odds and ends stuff, so you're going to have to take time to go through it. Another company that may have the mount is SOG, Southern Ohio Gun. I don't have their page. SOG.com is what I think it is, but I'm probably wrong. I know they've changed their webpage again. But it's Southern Ohio Gun. If you find them and go to their page, you've got to sift through it because they don't really have a good, they don't have a real parts subdivision or anything. You've just got to scroll through everything to find it. But the B-squared mount, there's two versions. One of them, you knock out the pin, you back off the screw depending on the model you've got for the rear sight, the leaf sight, the slide sight. And then you put the mount in place there, pin it into place, and it creates a picatinny rail for you to mount your scope rings on. The other model, which of course also limits, again, using a stripper clip on the nagot, which I don't worry about. I've used them both ways. The other one is again non-tapping. Both of these require no machining to the gun. But the other one actually fastens and fits into where the stripper clip guide is on the receiver. And it comes up as a bit of an L over top of the bolt area. Now with that, typically again, You have to angle the bolt which is what you're talking about doing to knock the bolt down and you know give it a proper taper and angle for approach you know for lifting and pulling back you know to avoid contact with the scope fixture. Right. So the other option something that you might think about but you're not going to get the range in the scope with it if you're looking for tack driving is remember Cooper's concept of a camp rifles slash a scout rifle. They were using long eye relief scopes with the base. What they were doing is basically taking that B-squared mount that replaces the rear sight and they were putting a long eye relief scope on that and doing what Cooper did. So again that 7.62x54R is going to have the, it's got greater potential with .308 in terms of energy. Just a little over and a little under or about the same as .06. So, again, with the scout rifle idea, it actually fit well into the niche. The only thing is I wouldn't shorten the barrels. If anything, one of the other little tricks there is Tapco makes flash hiders for all of these nagots. And they don't require a threading, they just do a basket. And there's a couple different types. I think they've got a pepper box, they've got a basket, and I think they've got a compensator now too that cuts compensator type. They're a little bulky, but they will definitely work and they go right over the barrel without tapping You know they wrap around the front sight where they work one last thing Is there any 7.6 by large and clean out? Preview Partisan and you know what you got to keep an eye on this company aim surplus comm aim surplus comm but I also mentioned Paul Palmetto and The previous part is on its blue and white box. It will run about $14 to $16 a box which makes it the cheapest Argentine ammo in the country. It is boxer primed, non-corrosive and it is brand new manufacturer. It is both in a 165 grain soft point and it also comes in ball round. So you can keep those Argentines running. And it's actually brand new ammo, so it definitely is worth buying. It's a good price, but the thing is when everybody finds it, they swoop down on it. Well, yeah, it's a dark-cuting weapon. Oh, yeah, it's an out-six. The 765 Argentine performs identically to the out-six, and that's why later on, as those countries went away from the Mauser manufacturers, they didn't throw the weapons away. What they did is they chambered a lot of those over from Argentine to 30 out-six. So coming on the surplus, you'll see them both ways for that model of Argentine Mauser. Now, everybody say, well, that's a little hot with out-six. But a lot of the 765 Argentine Mausers were K98s. They're in 765 Argentine but they're a 98 Mauser made for Argentina or made for Chile or made even for Mexico. The only one I had who I had two of them and they were push-pulls. You had to push them on the close. Right, that's a good reaction. Those will be in 765 Argentine period. That's all you'll find those in. Okay, cool, and that's a good rifle. That's a good rifle. You give that to me in fact. Oh, oh, oh shoot. I don't have it. But forgive me, if you've got an Argentine or if you've got anybody who's got a couple of them, there is a company that has extractors for an incredibly cheap price and they are out your way. And forgive me, I'm looking while I'm talking and I may have to give it, you know, you can stick around and I'm yapping while I'm going through a card file to try and find it. But the company is really, they're a smaller parts company, they're out in California, and they have Argentine Mauser extractors, which by the way is the most common part that malfunctions on that weapon if you've used them for a long period of time. So it's worth having a spare extractor for the Argentine. This is also true with some of the Mexican Mausers. It's just by the nature of the metallurgy but also a lot of those guns saw a lot of service time. And it's not a week, it's not that they're weak, it's just that it's one of those parts, I'm telling you when I saw this it was like this jumped out off the page at me because it's like no way. And they also have a couple other odds and ins. A lot of these companies have odds and ins stuff that you know they're just nobody else is carrying, they just happen to have it, they got a glut of it because they were in the right place. If you know where to look, it's definitely worthwhile. I'm looking and I'm kicking myself behind in because usually when I don't look for this company, I jump right up my hand and I'm looking for it and I can't find the way I want to. Well, Mark, I tell you, as usual, you're a treasure trove of information. I'll keep listening. Go on to the next caller. I appreciate you, Matt. Very good. Fantastic. Keep up the good work there. That Argentine I wouldn't get rid of. That's a beautiful rifle. And as long as you can keep her fed, that's one of those weapons that will sing like a sewing machine. There's guys here that are sware by him. I've got a person who just left a little bit ago today and he's got a whole pile of those. And of course he bought the ammunition. Oh here we go. See if I talk long enough. You can slap me in the microphone. Okay, I'll grab another piece of paper. This is a neat little company too guys and for everybody out there listening you need to spot check them. They get stuff nobody else gets. It's the dealer warehouse. The dealer warehouse? Yep, the dealer warehouse as in you know like dealing cards, dealer warehouse. Again they're located in Modesto, California. Okay. Their website is www.dott.com. tdwsales.com. That's one of their pages. Now, their new page, apparently they got the whole thing spelled out. So you can also go to www.thedealerwarehouse.com. W-A-R-E-H-O-U-S-E.com. I remember having a Mauser with a bad firing cannon. Is that something? Something I ought to get also? Well, they're big and they're bulky, but again, it won't hurt if you can find an Argentine firing pin. Check to see what they have. I don't think they have firing pins, but e-circoinc.com, they do. And the Argentine, well the Mauser firing pins run for a long, long, long time. But I like a cold-custle. Yeah, if you can buy one, in fact if it did break, I'd use it for a tool for something else. They're Billie Ebert's doghouse. But the thing is, see the difference is they were one big large machine piece. When we adopted the Mauser system in the Springfield action, when we made the Springfield, the one significant change that we made is that instead of a whole long shaft firing pin with one big long machining process, We made a replaceable firing pin tip. That's the difference. That's with the Springfield. Remember you got the end fixture and you can replace that and still keep the rest of the system from the original bolt. The thing about, let's see what was the other one here, oh phone number by the way, for TDWSales.com is 209-545-2800. That's 209. So the reason I asked for this 7.65 I've had it there. The gun shop is kind of an author. You can buy them reasonably with all set up custom stock, a patient stock and a nice scope. For under $3 bucks. Yeah. Wow, they got a source then. Well, I know Sam Coe is one of those companies, but a lot of people like to deal with them out of Florida. And they claim that they can offer an Argentine, just a regular Mauser, you know, regular action, but you know, regular military stock. But everybody's had a terrible time dealing with them. On the other hand, if you've got the rifle, Go to AIM surplus or if it looks like they got a source, preview partisan is going to be your solution for ammunition. The other thing is you might find some Korean PMC because PMC originally did what preview partisan does now and they used to cover the market now and west of the Mississippi you guys might have a better source for preview partisan out that way. You know what I mean? Right, so that's another out there so okay right now aim so that they're sold out of the preview partisan and I was right the FMJ the full metal jack round is 174 however the one that they're offering in the soft point was 180 grain Now that's pushing up towards that's where I like to go with a 30 caliber with a good 30 out six but with that you're going to go ahead For this instance, I like the 180s so if I can even get it, it's two other grand. Yes, and what's interesting is these... I thought these were off it. Yeah, these are coming in at about that spec range, which is really good. That's headed towards the 8mm bullet weight. The other option is I would check with, again, Palmetto State Armory. They have ammunition and you never know what they're going to have, but a lot of companies are carrying the preview part is on. The thing is, as quick as they're getting it, people are buying it up. example, they got some 7.5 Swiss, $14.95 a box. You can't beat it. Full metal jacket Swiss 7.5. So again, that's a reasonable price. It's where Federal or Federal. Federal cartridge used to be in that niche. Remember that guys? It used to be you could buy Federal cartridge ammo for a really good price. And they've gone up where Remington and Winchester is now. Well, because the market is thriving there. So, the preview part is on. If you can see it and find it, I would grab it. If you see that 765 Argentine and you're there first, I'd grab it. Because somebody else will be right behind you to pick up the difference, if you know what I mean. So if you see it, buy it. And again, $14.50 is about the average per box for that stuff. Which means it's cheaper than .308 ammo. which is going for almost a dollar around. So it's like, yeah, that's not bad. See, that's why now all these sporting rifles or these old surplus military weapons definitely are still very much serviceable because the prices have gone so far up on all of the standard calibers that even if you do pay a few pennies for it, and it still, it was more expensive in terms of, you know, cost per round, it's now pretty well balanced out to be equal. So this means we can justify keeping all these other weapons in service and we should. And I don't care what it is, 6.5 Carcano, 6.5 Swede, 7.5 French, 7.5 Swiss, 7.65 Argentine. These rifles, we've got a hundred years worth of these things we've bought and there ain't none of them that are outdated. It sounds like you've got somebody who's a Smith out there playing with the 7.65s and doing a real nice job with them too. Yeah. That's a bad rifle. Remember when they hit Grenada and they were commenting how the K98 Mausers ran teaks and the Marines were kind of looking down their nose at them. Well, those boys down in Grenada had known how to use those weapons and it stacked up a bunch of Marines. Oh yeah, in fact, or they just decided to employ them because I don't care how you look at it. It's a 200 grain bullet ball round going down range. It's perforated a lot of people in the last 120 years. And there's a whole there's millions of dead accounted for with the K98 Mauser guys and that is the best way to describe it because the 8 millimeter Mauser round has been out there for 120 years in one form or another and a whole bunch of the planet has used it. We even did in third world countries ourselves. So whenever they make any snide comments, so what's an obsolete gun? Really go over and stand on the wellhouse and I'll take five shots at you. We'll see how obsolete it is. You're just as dead today as you were 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 100, oh wait a minute, 120 years ago. Because this is the year 2014, 100 years ago, it's only 1914 now. And nobody really thinks about that. And the 8mm Mauser goes back to 1886, 1887 for prototyping and 1888 when it came out in the Gewehr 88 rifle, which was the first smokeless powder magazine, you know, well, man that you're a stripper fed. German military armed to use that modern cartridge in the S format before they switched over to the hotter round. So it works. I won't think twice. Well again, for what I'm going to do with it, I'm not going to be kind. We talked about that. I'm not going to be kind. I'm going to sit back in a hollow area and I'm going to make sure that you're in my line of fire and I'm going to kill you and I'm going to disappear. I'm going to go find your buddy and do the same thing to him. And I'm going to do it with that Argentine Mauser. See that's how you work it kids. It's like at fair. There ain't no fair in this game. I'll shoot you to the high end and watch everybody else try to help you and plug them too. Because that's what they would laugh about doing to you. Well look, another one hurt. Oh too bad. Well two furs are nice to me. Boom. Oh there's another one. Boom. There you go. Now it's time to leave. Goodbye. They can curse your name on the wind. Of course they won't know who you are but they'll still be cursing. and I really don't care. That's right. Ahh, smells like our own. Thanks for moving Mark. Good night. You too. Bye. And again for all of our friends out there listening, if you got one of those old military rifles guys, they're not obsolete by any stretch. And if you want to take the time, it's already been sporterized, you can dust up one of those rifles and make them look so, I mean bring them up to whatever performance range you want to. I've said this before, take one of these French Moss Rifles, I got it for free. Had a nail sticking out of the buttstock. I'm serious, a nail sticking out of the buttstock, half an inch. I don't know what the hell, I think they hammered down a pad down or they've done a piece of leather and it fell off, right? And I got it for free and I walked through the show and I kept the original stock, re-straightened that up, got a B-square scope mount used out of one of the junk boxes. Grabbed a scope for $10. It was a burr of scope that went back in the day sold for about $110. Back what $110 meant something. Nine power scope. Went to one of the other guys tables, bought a rubber butt pad, recoil pad for $1 in the raw. Inch and a half thick. And by the time I was done, that 7.5 moss, which is built like a brick doghouse, it will tack drive at 150, 200 yards and put a bullet one right on top of the other. It's crude and rude otherwise but it does the job. Anyway, we've got another colorway. Yeah, I was thinking, how do you think compound bows and crossbows are going to factor into all this stuff? Oh, there just is. You know what? Compound? How many millions out there? Oh, they're going to be just as mean because no sound and the big thing is remember to fire and move with a bow. You've got to remember that though because one of the things about shishkababbing, let's say that you use a compound or a crossbow and you go, and you nail that guy to a wall because that's what's going to happen with those broadheads you're using, you know what I mean? If there's something behind it's going to happen to him just like it does to Bambi. If it's the right shots going straight through if you're lucky. If it doesn't it's stuck. Now remember the one thing about arrows that people have to remember is once you fire you move. Why? Because if the arrow is stuck in him it points back to where it came from. I'll be moving all right. You might hear the guy grunt, you might hear him, he might start to scream or thrash a bit, but you know it would take a minute for everybody to register the idea that something just happened. Because there's no CLOOM! You see? The only issue is that if you do use those weapons like a crossbow operator, if he fires immediately just like a sniper, he backs out of his position and moves left or right immediately. In other words, he should already have a position, his position would be such that he has cover and concealment, engages with the bow and immediately DD's the AO left or right of where he fired from because somebody's going to relate to the idea that the arrow came from there just by following the shaft back to where it came from. If the guy gets stapled to something, now if he gets shot people have a tendency to thrash and move around. So it might be a little more difficult but they might still have the general idea of where you came from. So, even with bows and arrows, even with compound bows or with crossbows, which by the way, hey, it's nothing to buy a crossbow out there with a 300 pound prod nowadays. And you know what? There are people that wish they had those in the Revolutionary War. Oh yeah. And actually, Ben Franklin did propose that back in the day, guys. Because of the shortage of ammunition, the discussion was to re-implement crossbows or longbows, actually bow and arrows. I still think it would have been a bad idea. Considering the rank and file system and the ranges, bows and arrows would have actually been rather, shall we say, a mind screw. Again, ammunition is cheap, so to speak. Oh, for the rapidness of fire also. Yeah. So you still be putting stuff down range and if you get stuck with a four and a half foot piece of broom handle, which is what the longbow used to fire, it actually was about a four and a half, five foot piece of broom handle, going down range and you get shish kabob by that? It's going to hurt right away. Yeah, you're not going to get right back up and scream for more. Okay, you're going to want to just lay there and bleed. Or try to get out of the way of the next one coming in. So, again, with crossbows, the other consideration is using them. I know the duke's a hazard thing, but think a little more sophisticated than a dynamite stick on an arrow. And remember that projecting an indirect fire charge into an area, either illumination or a squib or whatever, or again, an explosive device, a compound bow can launch something a good distance. When I used to live on that lake I always talk about, guys, I used to use a compound bow for hunting. I use a conventional recurve. What we used to do for fun is we'd just take a whole pile of arrows I'd saved up that everybody else had tossed out. For the fun of it, we'd take an old tire, an old inflatable tire inner tube, put it out there in the lake as far as it would float, and we'd start trying to see if we could dot the I. You know, do the medieval crossbow thing where you know the medieval archers shot where you fire as far as you can and arc the target in. You know, arc into the, you know, arc into the target. Go through 100 arrows, go out there, swim around, also give you lots of exercise, go out there, collect all the arrows, bring the inner tube back in where I can hit it, start all over again. So you get, there's no reason not to practice at doing it, it's just people don't seem to be thinking about doing it. It's not like it's the poor Native American Indians having to use sinew for your string and whittling away at a piece of wood. You're looking at modern technology. In fact, there's even that little poster. You've all seen it with the guy on the horseback, the Indian on horseback with the compound bow over his head going, what if? Yeah. Think about it. Anyway, we're at the top. Your number for night vision, please. Take your time and give it out a couple times. Hey, that number is 2-3-1-7-9-6-8-4-5-Hickogels or gun sights. Greens, greens or thermal? 2-3-1-7-9-6-8-4-5-8. Thank you, Mark. Very good. The other thing about using weapons, guys, even if you had to use older arms, You don't see this very often, but I know we've got the music here, but think about cascading fire. If you've got three men, one person fires and falls back or freezes. The other person moves past that's loaded and fires and freezes and starts loading. The third man moves forward, fires and freezes and starts reloading. By the time the third man is starting to reload, the first man that fired is ready to fire again. This creates a cascade of fire so that you suppress. That's how you use weapons that are unique like that. You can't figure on one person doing it. You have to work as a team. Otherwise, you have to work as a sniper. Okay? God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march. We'll stay and night. And by the way, for all of you out there listening, that's how the scouts did it in the Civil War, guys. The forward units are picket units. would use the same technique. One man fire, the other man move forward, the next man move forward, the next man move forward, then three men move forward, then the first that are loading, reloaded, and fired again. Cascading fire, but a progressive fire. Down your number for night vision encloses, please. That number is 2317968458. Thank you Mark, God bless you. God bless America. Ashley Barnes, I receive KIT-SATAH! HempUSA.org urges everyone to plan ahead for possible food shortages in the future. 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There's a lesson to be learned in observation and from a sustainable permaculture approach. The third wave of food production, the third wave of sustaining yourself. Observation is a very important principle, observation of natural patterns. So there's patterns in the woods that if we just stop and maybe we're on watch, maybe we're at our LPOP, you know, let's look at our environment. Observe the AO, the area of operation. observe the AO, area of operation. Look at the contours of the land. Look at the trees and how they're growing in relation to the sun or where the moon is. What do shadows look like through that canopy when the sun and moon is, you know, kind of being filtered by the trees? What sort of light patterns or shadow patterns does that make on the ground? How would How would the way that trees are growing, like in their location, relative to each other, how would that cause game to wander through that area? Or Black Uniform moves? How would it hinder you from moving through that area? What's the quickest way for you to get out of this particular area? It's just the longest way for you to get out and also for game. We want to ask those same questions for game. Are there any signs of game having been there? So again, we're anywhere in the United States or around the world for that matter. We're in the forest and we have to look at what's in front of us first. We're going to learn by observation. Now, there are other things in the forest that Sometimes it's right in front of our face, so we don't pay attention to it. It's almost like because it's there, we ignore it, because we're so used to it. But did you know that there's at least seven layers to a forest? This is sort of advanced stuff, guys. So it's basic, but it's advanced. Because what I'm doing is I'm saying there's a forest, but I'm saying there's layers to that forest. That's the more advanced stuff. So we're observing our surroundings, but now we're going to go through the layers. And the first layer of the forest is the canopy. Now I'm going to apply these forest layers to food production, because that is the emphasis of Grow Your Own, the budding revolution here on Liberty Tree Radio. So I'm going to use the forest setup to set up our own forest. That produces lots of food. We're going to call that a food forest. You guys can pull up all kinds of videos on YouTube, youtube.com if it's still around while you're listening to this, and pull some food forest videos up.