January 16, 2014
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59m
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Mark Koernke discussed firearms and ammunition availability, focusing on .45 ACP revolvers, M1 carbines, and various military surplus weapons. He covered Korean-manufactured magazines and drums available through CenterFire Systems, analyzed battlefield logistics and communications based on historical examples like Wake Island and Iraq, and warned about government surveillance through USB chips and wireless monitoring. Koernke also discussed the pattern of alternative technology discussions on his show being countered by articles on mainstream alternative media sites, emphasizing the importance of diversified systems over centralized solutions.
- 45 acp
- m1 carbine
- smith and wesson revolver
- korean magazines
- centerfire systems
- ammunition supply
- military surplus
- nsa surveillance
- usb chips
- offline systems
- battlefield communications
- preparedness
- second amendment
- alternative technology
- diversified systems
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Live 365 Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep and dead. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be blamed. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the mist for whence he came, his words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land of the free good Afternoon ladies gentlemen, this is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark corny one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, south, east, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio.com, and we're on AM&FM micro stations, CB base stations, and UltraNet Technologies East and West of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're in the Hallmark Network on Eastern Seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida, across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 3rd, 5th, and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado, waving to the left coast where the state of Jefferson is a shining beacon around an occupied zone of darkened mass that is spewed upon. This call is the excrement, the piles created by Feinsteinism that in reality are the members of the Feinsteinite clan. Yes, the excrement of the planet piled up in the left coast trying to create a benchmark, a beachhead for The Soviet slash the Chinese for foreclosure in America, the California Soviet Socialist Democracy being the anchor point for that activity. Turning back to the east we sweep across the plains and leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and land in the Smoky slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the motbell grandma consortium of retired telecommunications workers up there in Cleveland, Ohio where they're buried up to their butt in snow. Yes, it's the Golden Spike. Today's date is passed the halfway mark. Here we have survived the first two full weeks of January. sixth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a 2014 old earth calendar or Mayan crazy crazy town calendar Well, I'll tell you what just in case do we have any callers because I heard a bunch of bells Which means we may have people there in on standby star six if you'd like to unmute yourself Joe from the Carolinas. Go ahead, Joe, jump in there please. Hey Mark, totally random weapons related question. Is there such a thing as a wheel gun that takes 45 ACP rounds? Yes, the Smith and Wesson Model 1917 and the Colt Model 1917. Plus, after the war, after World War I, that's when they were built. They take half moon or four moon clips which are readily available but if you do pick up a gun of this type and it takes the half moon and full moon, I would buy hundreds. I literally would buy hundreds as it is. They're fairly cheap and if you find someone has them on the table, sometimes you can get them for a quarter a piece, sometimes you can get them two for a quarter, sometimes they're more. They are out there. They're stamped sheet metal for the half moons and the idea is that you clip the 45 rounds into that, slide them into the cylinder, you know, snit notches and away you go. Boom, boom. They're in frame revolvers. The Colts actually, I think, commanding a bigger price than the Smiths because, again, Colt is a little harder to get in general nowadays. The post-war period, Smith and Wesson found out that people liked it so much that they have made 45 ACP in frames right up until even the 70s and 80s and I think they might even offer it on occasion every once in a while still. They are good guns, nothing wrong with them. Lots of knock down power. The biggest thing was to take advantage of all that 45 ACPM with a standard issue. Now the guns were so common in World War I that they made 45 ACP rimmed. And what it is is 45, it's actually 45 Colt rimmed auto pistol was for the 1917 revolvers. And on occasion you'll find it, even the stuff that's the newest It's almost collectors, almost a collector's item only in that if you're a cartridge collector. I think the last big batches of the rimmed cartridge were made in the 1970s to early 1980s, 8182. Both Winchester and Remington had made a batch because there were a lot of those pistols. There are still a lot of pistols around. I don't think anybody's gotten rid of any of them. But they're not sold back and forth very much if they're the World War I models now. Don't forget the 625 and the 25 from Smith nowadays. Right, that's what I just said. The upgraded are the larger in frames using the same idea. They haven't changed. A variation on that was, remember, back in the 70s, Ruger had a contract with the Israelis for a 9mm variation on the theme. And their gun required a half moon and full moon clips also, but it was 9mm. We're single six the combo gun they have that nine three fifty seven and the forty five auto forty five long colt Yeah, and those were those were in fact now even those because you got to remember that's thirty going on forty years ago forty years ago now They're collectors items the biggest problem is in the box a lot of people don't even want to pull them out because they're appreciating in value But as far as pistol serviceable pistols, they're more than I'm more than acceptable in fact I probably hugged if he gave me one. I wouldn't expect to find one, but there are millions of those guns. Well, let's say this way. There are hundreds of thousands of those guns out there. Well, a couple of Gary Mikulich's records were done with the .357 and .45 revolvers with the moon clips. Yeah. And the .45 ACP. There we go. I see I didn't know that they actually had finally produced that I heard the talk about it years ago But I'd never really spot-check to see if they came out in production. I love to it. It's a five-shot tracker like you said, it's a medium frame also that Smith and Wesson came out with that copy of the Judge the shot shell pistol Smith and Wesson not only does 45 long colt 410 but it also does 45 auto with moon clips. There we go. I'm sorry, thank you guys so much. This is awesome. Total download of 45 ACP. You're saying that that would take 410 and 45 ACP? Yes. The judge takes 45 long colt for the Smith and Wesson ACP with a revolver style Thank you so much for that. This is very helpful for a lot of our governors. We have a great deal of that ammunition down here and many of our females are more comfortable with that sort of design of firearm, but we still have that caliber and we're sort of looking for an easy solution. So I appreciate everybody piping it and thank you so much Mark. I've learned more in the past couple of minutes than I have in a couple of years. You're probably going to run into these if you pay attention to the estate sales because up here where we are, we've had several estate sales where the guys popped out with Broomhandle Mausers in 45 ACPs, which we didn't think very many had gotten into the country. It was a farmer down in Manchester. He had three or four of these 1917s in the collection and they went for a reasonable price. So, you'll find them, if you're lucky, you'll find them in a remote sale or always watch them in local auctions, you know, guns for sale. The people that are getting rid of this stuff are from that World War I, but they probably have dad's collection or whatever, and if there were no follow-up family members or the family members don't appreciate it, they're releasing this stuff. And you always watch the odds and ends boxes because the half moon clips are probably there and the ammunition is there for the gun too. Wasn't the broom handle 45? That was a Chinese version, wasn't it? The Chinese made a bunch of them and guys went over at the end of the war. Well, before World War II, the 45 broom handles had already been built. And a lot of guys, and I figure what happened with this, is the guy brought it back from World War II. But, you know, a lot of guys didn't want to show this stuff because they knew that the government's sticky fingers. You know, they'll try to screw stuff, you know, steal stuff from you. One of the guys, I kicked myself in the butt, he was a P-38 mechanic. Now if somebody else got it, I know. But one of the guys, he was a P-38 mechanic in World War II and he said, hey, I got a Japanese garand. And I looked at him and I said, a Japanese garand? And I knew that they were made. I said, well, where'd you pick it up? He goes, well, we invaded Okinawa. He goes, we got to Okinawa. The Japanese had everything. I mean, we were killing them and they were carrying everything. I happened to get it and he said I brought it back with me at the war and a whole bunch of other stuff. I'm looking for a regular garand. He goes, I don't want this. It's in 7.7 JAP. I can't get any ammo for it. He said, if you just ground me up a garand, I'll trade you one for one. It was a barren moment in the garand inventory. You couldn't find them any place for any good price. The only thing is, one of the other guys that we were talking there, he caught the conversation and he went out and dragged one out of his collection and he traded tit for tats. That was a steal, but it preserved it because the guy that has it is an engineer and he's actually one of our people that helped to build all those M1As that I've talked about over the years. So, stuff like this is coming out of the woodwork and it's going to show up here and there. That's why it looks weird. It's like, I don't think anybody made that. Well, if you're looking at it, it looks to be military and production. It's a beautiful rifle. Yeah, they did. Oh yeah, the thing is that the one thing that the Japanese Garand did when I looked at it Everybody should notice if you've seen the write-ups on them, it took two five-round stripper clips. It had a standard magazine instead of a D-clip system. So you'd, you know, and you were loaded. And then you had two more rounds in the Grand. And as far as function goes, it seemed to work just like the Grand for all practical purposes. It was the only thing is, fortunately, the Japanese didn't make very many of them. So it was an end of the war, middle of the end of the war production. A lot of them probably ended up on different islands that we bypassed. I know a lot of guys carried those back and a lot of guys carried knee mortars back. They are not knee mortars, but everybody calls them that. Those grenade projectors came back in force and there is a whole lot of them laying around. They are laying around secure now, but there is a whole bunch of them that came back during the war. More and more, the World War II vets passing away. Go ahead. If anybody tries saying that the antiquated weapons aren't something you should use nowadays, just tell them to watch Star Wars. They're still using them there. And they have laser bolts. Han Solo's Broomhandle Mauser guys, all they did was put a few... Actually what they did is they took a British number five jungle carbine flash hider that they cut down. They took the back of the side off of the flash hider. and a few more modifications, the side mounted scope and congratulations you got a blank firing broom handle mouser. Well the Storchers were called Starlings. Right and that was a simple because they just did a stubby mag for the magazine well that's all that they did so they could fire blanks. Now all of these were and the for instance the Vickers guns, Lewis guns, Lebells, there's some Lebell guns in there too by the way, Lebell machine guns. That's one of the most important things. It was terrible as a 10 year old pointing that out to... Exactly. But some of the weapons were old enough that they're actually from World War I or pre-World War I. So the cool thing is that most people, it was out of their mind. It was out of sight out of mind. They had been so long that most people hadn't actually seen or weren't familiar with the weapons. Which is why the Lebel guns of the French belt-fed machine guns, some of them they used, they had such stylized designs from the deco era. And the French applied that kind of idea to their arms. Each country has their flavor in how they design their weapons. It's like the AK, the Russian family of weapons. If you look, you see one, you pretty well see the same influence in all of them. And the same is true with the US Marshal Arms as opposed to the British family or the Czechs back before World War II. So, it's kind of interesting that if you wait long enough you can go full circle and nobody even has a clue and you've got a really cool looking toy to, you know, a cool looking prop. All better debris will shoot you. works with a 1911 and you get that Delisle carbine. Right. Now a gentleman was making those right up until recently. That's something that Joe would be interested in. Actually, I was interested to see if the guy was still making them. I think there was some pressure put on him because that was a very good blending of two worlds and very economical. One of the advantages of the infield we've been talking about is the fact that all you had to do is replace the bolt face, which is a very small machining process step. As far as modifying it to take, the RIM-45 cartridge. The magazine wells, remember, were all stamped sheet metal, although it depends on what year they were machined on the SMLE. The barrels, straightforward 45 ACP barrels, could be cranked out all day. They also made that for the Mauser. Well, yeah, the Europeans made, the Euros made a variant 9mm Steyr. The 9mm large load, 9mm fire. Well, wait a minute. You're so okay. Well, I haven't seen that the Germans Yeah, it was for the they made it pretty check the k-98 And it was a short run. Yeah, it's the same time. He was making it for the you know, the inbuilt Made by the same guy, you know, he he's no surplus. Well, you're talking about the FAO guy that was us He was just doing the pistol conversions for the rifles you're talking about modern reproductions that he were actually modern He was doing modern production rifles where he was taking existing actions Not war production. Well what he was doing he took you know from that idea because he doing that for the 40 right? But that's what I'm saying where he got the idea where he just moved it to the 45 because it actually is easier Before that if you look you'll find that the Spanish And the Germans cranked out of her. Yeah, a nice little short stroke 9 millimeter rifle styre for the It was in 9 millimeter styro slash Largo for the Spanish and it went along with the Astra pistol And then for the Germans, they went with 9mm parabellum. But 45, the guy that was producing those, and I don't know, I mean actually he was up there in years, he actually was doing this for quite some time because I remember he used to have the article on the advertisement in the shotgun news, at least the one that I tried to contact here a few years ago. And I understand that he actually had started making up a website, and there was another guy that was supposed to be kind of taking over and I haven't earned any more about that. He was actually offering the conversion kit, which means you get the barrel, you get all the goodies you need to switch it over, and there are a lot of infield actions out there at the gun shows. You don't have to, not complete weapons, you can walk through a gun show and if you're a patient you can pick up every stinking part you need without buying the whole gun. Probably get the receiver for $10, the bolt for $7. Pick up all the minor springs, pins and everything else for another $20 and get a punky buck stock for little or nothing and you're ready to put a 45 Enfield together. The other consideration is they make plastic stocks now guys for the Enfields and for the Mausers. So you could get a complete plastic stock set and cobble it up to fit the sell without any problem. I was in one of my favorite places yesterday and I come across a $10 Romanian. Uh oh, what was wrong with it? Believe it or not, they got it with a rifle and you know, since it was stashed away in the box, it was a make an offer and I said I'll give you $5, he said $10, I said $10 out the door, he said. Well he's happy and you're happier. I loaded it up. Well, the Romanians, everybody is telling me right now that obviously the Romanians are a step up. They were definitely military production. I don't think that we're getting our aftermarket, per se. Romania has been trying to pamper Romania to get them back under the sphere of control because they are breaking away again. First they broke away from the Communists and they were independent, then they were sold out by the Shysters to the bankers, the peons that were in their national government. Right now they are in the process of cleaning the country out and getting a little variation on the Chachisku going again. Because of that they are trying to entice them. So, Romania has been allowed to bring some stuff in that, remember like the M10 rifle, the latest AK that they are building in Romania? A bunch of those came in and then all of a sudden they cut up a bunch of them. It makes no sense whatsoever because the ones that they cut up were semi-auto. So, that's an example of stuff going on I think with old bummer behind the scenes. Remember where they promised that they were going to create all kinds of problems and interfere with the firearms import? Because the M10 model has all of the features that everybody pretty well wants. Of course, it moved the sighting system back so the front, it's changed the silhouette of the rifle dramatically just by doing that. But all of the things that they learned from the American market, they incorporated into their weapon. and that means there's very little of anything you have to change out now i understand some of the stuff they actually get by here so it's really not imported from romania they just made a point of buying and putting out what they knew would be required in advance so they've got a complete package rifle ready to go where is the host and half these companies with their duty bring the company to weapon and almost complete and on the whatever title bs the bat faggots require for a percentage of the weapon you know being uh... american made Then they drop it into the market. That's why it's interesting that the Romanians got snapped because another small batch of those have shown up in the M10A case. These drums work just fine in them. Everybody else that's used the drums say that they've been happy with them. The Koreans are a little thinner, not by much, but the Koreans are marketing to a war active Asia and that's why they're building all this stuff. That's why South Korea is building AK drums and AK mags. Not just for our market, but for to compete in a general market that's headed towards war to begin with. The thing I like, they have Korean manufactured 30 round magazines. Really good. Is that posted right now? Yes it was. Let me go double check. The only reason is because again I know that they've changed up some of the ads. And today would be the day they do it too. Well take advantage of that as we can. Again that is www.centerfiresystems.com I know somebody else may have already done that or be doing it but I just put it in there to be safe. And for everybody out there at CenterFireSystems.com I'd look to see what their latest sales are for the day too. If they have any sales now sometimes it's not sales sometimes they just point out hey look what we've got on the webpage like okay, so they have Korean mags and drums and Looks like they got a big pile of drums about seventy dollars for the AK Steel drums 99 99 for the SKS And of course they got the Breasts of Doom, the 100 round AR mags and Mini 14 mag drums, the side by side snail guys. And $6.99 for the Korean Grey Steel AK. But if you buy three at a time, is that where it drops down again? Yep. OK, so let's see. Well, $3.00 to $100 is $6.99. There we go. So, $7 a mag is reasonable and again there's nothing about the Korean mags that you're going to write home about. They're standard AK mags. In other words, they work fine. They'll work every time and they'll blend right in with all the other AK mags you've got, except they're brand new. They're coming right out of the factory, so that's pretty cool. They're not servos. And they even have the M1 carbine 15 round mag for $10. Now, another thing I would point out again, and this is why you see that carbine from Aguila showing up, if anybody has been watching all of the battlefield situations developing down in Mexico towards Michigone, they are the militias that have mobilized to get rid of the cartels. The three dominant weapons there, AR-15, AK-47, and the third one, M1 carbines. There's a lot of carbines south of the border and a lot of carbines all over the planet. In fact, if they're not M1 carbines, remember, in the Caribbean there were at least three copies. They were not M1 carbines, but they were used in M1 carbine magazines and ammunition. They were independently made. The Dominican Republic used to export a lot of these to other countries in the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico. Those will show up. While you're looking, they go, man, that looks like a carbine, but something doesn't look right. And the reason is because they actually were, they are a different rifle, but the cool thing, they do take standard ammunition. That's why those mags are still available because in Southeast Asia, once again, in Central America, people are typically a little shorter stature, a little smaller. South America, same thing. Asia, same thing. Well, the carbine is actually the perfect rifle for a smaller person, comfortable to fire, lots of firepower, easy to carry lots of mags. So, anybody who tries to talk you out of changing out from the carbine if you already have one, no, no, no, if you want to get another weapon, do that, but don't get rid of the carbine. There's billions, and I'm not exaggerating. In fact, I would say more likely it's tens of billions of rounds of carbine ammo waiting out there, guys. I don't know how many millions of rounds the DCM sold separately. When it became the new marksmanship program, remember they were selling carbine ammunition for the youth program. You could get it in the ham tins, unopened, ready to roll. Which means a lot of people turned around and bought all of that they could. They didn't go out and spray and pray with it. They went out and bought it and put it on the shelf. You will find carbine ammunition in the inventory. and a lot of it. Not only that, World War II, Korean vintage stuff, and Vietnam era stuff coming out of the woodwork. A lot of guys carried pallets of it home. Literally, if they were in the military during that era, because a lot of the stuff was sold over the counter and was like pennies. You could get a can of 30 carbine for $7.50 to $10 a can when they were dumping it back at the end of World War II to the beginning of Korea. Now, you figure out what that's worth today. There's nothing wrong with it. It's in the ham tent, sealed forever. Unless you pop the can and don't do that if you don't have to. If you know what's inside, why are you trying to look at it? Anyway, we've got another caller. Who do we have? Hey, it's just me, Deidre. So, you know, if you look at the deals that they have at Centerfire, the Korean mags for the, I really, I'm a Glock guy. I love those Korean mags. You know, they're a little stiff when you first get them and you've got to kind of work them. probably cycle them three or four times. But they're as good as block mags and they're half the cost if not a third of the cost of even a used block mag. They work really well and I'd highly recommend if you're looking for extra mags to do that. I use the nine and I've had success with both the 17 and the 15 round mags. I think that they work really well. Someone said that they, I have a couple of stick mags, but they're actually Glock, believe it or not. I haven't bought any of the stick, only good things. $20, you better jump on them while you can. You know, I actually bought, it's kind of funny, I bought the stick mags, I bought several of them for $1,000 for like $20 or something each. Glocks yeah, so yes like I didn't think anything of it, but um I probably a few extra. It's just always so much money that I have and 33 rounder 9 millimeters are asking $20 for the 17 rounders are 13 and the 15 rounders are 8 So a pretty reasonable price while they're on sale and that's on the front page of Center fire systems so for everybody out there Center fire systems comm Center fire systems comm Center of Fire Systems dot com the other thing I would point out you've got Glock mags Everybody else if you've got Glock factory mags Well, don't wear those out by the Korean mags and wear them out You'll break them out. I really don't I can't tell the difference between them mark. Yeah I've shot. I've got a lot of boats and You know some guys will say oh, I only mags well blah blah. I'm like, okay You know, I think I got a green mag and you know in my primary carry right now I trust it with my life. The first rule like with what you just brought up, you know what I do? Well, do you have any of those aftermarket ones you want to give away? Well, yeah, you're going to have them. Okay, thank you. Yeah, no, I mean, you know, I don't really see anybody giving them away. That's the thing that people that buy them, they're like, you know, I only think I hear some people complaining, you know, on the internet, but I use them, you know, and I've got, you know, A lot of people I know are, you know, my team, we use Glock 19s or Glock 17s as our primary. And, you know, we've used them, we've put them in 20 different piss off rates, you know, very efficiently every time. You know, my only thing is, you know, once you first get them, you get them, I mean, they're great. Everything is, I think, comparable to Glock. You just initially have to kind of work the spring a little bit, which means probably load, unload maybe three to five times and they'll be as consistent as a Glock mag. So, you know, if you're putting some away, realize that you may not be able to use those right away in your system. You wear them in, you break them in. You've got to break them in a bit, but even then it's not that big. to week and the AK pistol, the 7x39 for 400 to 4 max I think is a great deal, something like that. You know you got a complete system right outside the box for $400. Well one of the other advantages too again, now this is as I recall the one they were offering was the cheapest one was a flat top, was it an A3? Yeah, just the flat top A3 and AR-15, but they also have an AK for $500. If you're going to go the AK route or a very good system. Well, the biggest problem is, as you pointed out, most of these places are as quickly as the inventory is coming in. It's go scooting out the back door even with Ares Armor. Hell, he bought 2000 of the Black AR-15 lower 80% receivers. You'd think, well, he's probably going to sit on those. No, it took about six, seven days. He's down to about 200 or 300. The stuff is moving. Everybody, in fact, really interests anything that is a liberty arm. And the bad guys, I'm sure, are seeing the numbers. Because even though we've had a wave of technology come in, because some of these guys' companies are trying to catch up or are catching up. It's kind of like the Korean mags. The Koreans were allowed to finally get the stuff off the boats and probably get it off the docks. And it's showing up in some force with certain companies. Not with everybody, but with certain companies. And the reason is because they were on the list. So they were the first to get them or they're the ones that have gotten them and they've got a good quantity. And so they're offering for a better price for the moment. One of the advantages here too is, as we pointed out, as soon as somebody zeros on it, kind of demonstrates to the bad guys how serious everybody is, that places are getting cleaned out. One of our people tried to order two of the AK mags the last time they offered the sale like this, and out of the 20 that they ordered, they got two. I don't know if they were allocating so that everybody got something, or if it was one of the last orders and they got two. So, don't be surprised. It's the way things are working. Once people find out where the water hole is, they're zeroing in on it. Most of our local shops here, by the way, that had, as we've reported, like Meyers Shifty Takers, they've kind of given up on getting ammo. They started to fill the glass cabinets with something else to make it look like they had ammo. It's like, okay, well, it's not ammunition, but at least they have a big tooth, a hole missing where a tooth is missing, guys. They don't want that. They can't have that. If you know what it is about stores, you want to make sure you've got what looks like you at least have inventory on the shelf even if you've spread one product down the whole aisle. Basically, the rifle ammunition that they have gotten in, as we kind of expected, is 270, 243, and a little bit of 308. 308, as soon as somebody saw it a day ago, that all went right out the door and is gone. As the guy said, that's a clerk, he goes, I can't get any more. It took us six months to get that and we're on the waiting list again. So it depends on the, I guess obviously where you are in the industry checklist, who you know, who's butt you can rub or what favor somebody owes you. I think a lot of these companies have eaten up their favors. In fact, that happened more than a year ago. Don't forget to tune in on that kind of classics. Got them back in for $100 each. Excellent. Are those used and in field grade or are those reconditioned? These are the grade B rifles. Okay. Well, they're serviceable enough. The big thing there again is there's still ammunition. Three most common for canned ammo. The Sham-Tend ammo is 7.62x54R, 7.62x39, and the 5.45x39. Even though it was dried up for a bit, the 53 grain is still out there in the 5.45. And as long as you keep making available cans of 7.62x54, keep picking it up. You're not going to lose a penny on it and as it stands it's not a matter if, it's just a matter of when that gets cut off. There is an excellent article that was written by a tread head that was posted by Henry from the Trenches World Report. I highly recommend that you read it. It just basically verifies from another direction a story that I've heard over 140 times with guys coming back from Desert Dust 1 and Desert Dust 2. Desert Dust 1, I sat down on the front porch and debriefed each of these guys that I trained years earlier, only a few years earlier in some cases. But with Desert Dust 2, no better. Exactly what we tried to explain to everybody other than the rear area pods. spare parts problems, equipment totally wearing out, no support, follow up, etc. etc. That's the reality of what it is the bad guys on the other side are going to face and it's going to get worse. But read that through. Pay attention to what they're talking about. With just a little more effort and a little more focus if you were the aggressor on the other side, what do you think the outcome would have been? See, this is what I talk about, you know, oh, but we don't have communications and we don't know exactly what's going on. We'll just have to lift our hands up in the air and surrender. What I call that is the Wake Island Syndrome. Now, it doesn't mean that the men at Wake Island didn't fight well. They did. But one of the comments made, if you pay attention to the actual book written by the men who were at Wake Island, The commander was shocked by how well off his men were and he realized that if he hadn't given the order to surrender, they could have possibly pushed the Japanese back off the island. But because the field telephone lines were cut and communications was haphazard at best, from his perspective with what he could see in front of him, he made a decision to surrender the island. But in reality they could have they still had if they still had munitions they still had weapons Many of their heavy weapons were intact contrary to what he originally had suspected You didn't have coordination because again the the type of conflict the action that they were engaged in and the future on this battlefield in America is going to be no different I'm not worried about a pat on the head or some squeeze on the rumpus from you know single communications More important is that we focus on the idea, did you kill all of them in front of you? Did you follow through on the mission per the expected task? Now guys, as long as you have the proper arms and equipment, as long as your logistic train is built up, everything else is up for grabs and signal communications will be haphazard at best on most days. Even the little business radios that some units use. Well, the idea is that even without any radio, the biggest thing is to understand, kind of like in the movie Braveheart, if you understand that each unit has a task, and each person simply to accomplish that minimal task, it's like he gave us a basic order. Well, I'll tell you what, you swing around on their flank, come at them from behind, I'll come at them from the front, and we'll meet in the middle. In other words, there wasn't any banner or flag or signal flare that told them, hey, we kicked them from the rear and we're here. It's when they finally realized, hey, I know you. Remember, he's got the sword, he's getting ready to swing, and he goes, aah! And he realizes, hey, wait a minute. So basically, that's more of a That's a more successful method in a way. It sounds weird, but it's not. In other words, rather than worrying about psyching the troops up, we're feeling good, it's feeling great. Because again, even with the Iraqi army, and this is something that would be a little market for the Iraqis, I'm looking at it from a battlefield evaluation based upon disinformation. had it not been for uh... the mistake made from command probably supposedly from but i am that they've moved their troops they were in a position not only to fight but to fight effectively and contrary to the propaganda bs fed to the american people if you do the actual research the battle for the bridges had everything uh... been executed a real emperor the original plan without deviation by command Guys, we wouldn't have taken Iraq the way we did. It would have been a very different war. As it is, it still was a lot different from all the movie BS. That's why most of these things that I see that are coming out, the latest one. I'm not going to watch this Lone Survivor movie. I'm sorry. First of all, right off the bat, they're raising questions that just seems like every 10 years they have to throw out there. It comes down to, again, well, You know, the premise of this whole thing is you capture locals and, you know, what kind of heart do you have about them? Oh, I hear the music. Well, here's the thing. Leave them tied to the tree, strap some goats or sheep around them. That'll keep them warm through the night and run like hell for the ridge. See how that works? Oh, that wasn't us. Yeah, you still have about 15 minutes left in the hour. There we go. Well, I can finish this thought up. Here's my point. Number one, you've got prisoners. They're locals. You don't want to shoot them. They got an old man and boys. Well, you don't have to let them go, number one. They're locals. People know that they're supposed to be somewhere. There's lots and lots and lots of bad guys down in the valley, aren't there? Well, they're where they're supposed to be. Now, if the people that are supposed to be there don't show up, family members will look for the sheep. Notice they didn't say they'll necessarily look for the people, but they'll look for the sheep because they're worth money. They'll look for the people because they're supposed to be looking for, taking care of the sheep. So, leave them tied to the tree, go get your job done, and then get the hell out of Dodge. Or, number two, leave them tied to the tree, run like hell, head for the ridge, get the hell out of Dodge, and if you want to, dump a 40 millimeter back over your shoulder to draw attention to something, and somebody will come looking for the people tied to the tree. See how that works? I'm part of the joke about strapping a sheep to them. I'm not. You know, Matt, here we go. I'm sorry, you're gonna have to suffer with some sheep dung for a bit. Oh, wait a minute, you probably sleep with that anyway. I'm not worried about it. But congratulations. So the argument is totally wrong from the get-go. And this has been something that everybody's always gotten into about the angst of battle. Okay, well, it's real simple. I'm not gonna kill them. And they're gonna have to take their chances with a tree. How's that sound? Well, uh, well, uh, uh, no, it's not that hard. So, beyond that point, the idea is demonstrating sacrifice. They are sacrificing for each other, but the big thing is they are pushing this as a ra-ra for the system. Fighting for this system right now isn't exactly your first best choice of things to do right now, especially wasting your life with the enemy doing what they are doing to our country. Talk about communications. I can tell the other side is getting desperate. saying a radio host sat there and said, for 10 years they had chips in the computers where they can wirelessly take all data from all computers. Mark, doesn't some of our internet... Real quick on that, I saw part of the article they were talking about there that the... Oh, what was it? the Pentagon put out there the NSA about the USB ports have the chips in them that can read everything on the computer supposedly and they can passively pick them up with readers but they were only using them to spy on China and these other foreign powers odds are the Chinese made them so they knew that was in there. Right, they're the ones who built them in the first place they didn't make the stuff here. But Mark, wouldn't that compromise sound about ultra net computers? No. Number one is like I said, we're using dinosaur technology for most of what we're doing. Once you get off the spyware grid, You see this is the problem, we don't need cutting edge. That's the first mistake that's being made. Most everybody that's doing all this is talked into, I got to get the next come up piece of equipment and pay $4,000 or $5,000 for it. What I've said before, I'll say again, once you get off of the control freak grid, you can't figure out why you're swimming, you're not swimming upstream anymore. You don't have this massive police state and this massive amount of every aspect of what works in the internet stream burning you anymore. Real quick George, how many Apple 1s and Apple 2s do you know that have USB ports? Right. How many 386 computers do you know that have USB ports? Or 486 or even Pentium 1s or Pentium 2s. In fact I even go so far as to say I can't think of a USB port or Pentium 3 system. Well, you know, uh... Well, I'll ship them to head. Well, that's an option. I mean, because they're wireless, they're Wi-Fi transmitters. You don't understand, but I'm just saying. Why move them around right now? Instead, clean them up, box them up, label what they are, make sure the box is properly labeled, and keep them stored and depoed there, but compress them. They come in a whole story. George, you're only like one county west of me, right? Or one town west of me or something like that? One county. Yeah, one county west of me. I don't think we would even have to ship it. Yeah, wouldn't it make more sense if you could just drive? Well, it cost me about $10 in gas to drive there and back. Well, not if somebody meets you halfway. Yeah, but my point is why do that? You see, right now, you'd be better off, like I've said, this is what we do with a lot of equipment. That's what I do every day. Well, I'm doing the program, I'm inventorying stuff, and I've been trying to get a lot of things done. I've got a stack of CD players right here right now. that I've been going through, checking, confirming that they work, and they're being stacked and packed. They're going to bubble wrap, they've got a little ID marker on them, I know that they work, I pull the batteries, make sure everything's clean, make sure they've got an earbud set with the unit. and they're ready to be handed out or ready to be issued out with projects. If you're worried about somebody getting into your system wirelessly using some kind of Wi-Fi system, wouldn't it be nice to take a Wi-Fi transmitter like that and find the focusing crystal? pull it out and just put a jumper in there so it wipes across broadband all the Wi-Fi signals and put them say like around the perimeter of your area that way anybody trying to get anything from the outside in is just going to hit that wall of wash. Yeah, noise and there'll be no focal point. See that's another option. Well the big thing about this is it's interesting the moment we see now let me point something out. Did I talk about sardines the other day? Do you remember that George? I think vaguely. I talked about sardines and I mentioned it several times. Did you notice that something showed up on somebody's site the next half day about sardines? About them going off. I talked about the idea that we have free and independent systems off of offline. I'm going to point this out because I'm watching this pattern for four years now, but specifically in the last year and a half. If we mention something in the morning, pay attention to other sites and you will see stuff pop up that is totally contrary to whatever we said in the morning. I challenge you. Pay attention to what I talk about. Sardines, I did that intentionally. Sardines are a really oddball subject. Scroll back through somebody else's page and look at the sardine article that showed up out of the blue. Seriously, one of the big sites, you know that big A site? that big IW site. We talked about what do you think? Is anybody paying attention? We did an extensive discussion about taking your equipment offline. All of a sudden, an article shows up on that site telling everybody it's futile to resist because they're seeing all you're doing if you unplug from the system. Well, don't worry about it. I'll unplug my stuff from the system and use it separate from everything and take my chances. How does that sound? Mark, if you have a question. It sounds like they're desperate now. They're getting really desperate. Well, yeah, but there's a pattern here because of the crew that's working on this. And what we do or what we talk about, if you pay attention, pay attention to key phrases, guys, that are sharp because they're unique. I do this intentionally with a lot of stuff. We do cover things nobody else talks about. So what they have to do, or again, they'll just fan away from something. If the logic we're using does make sense, then all the other time they're wasting on it doesn't. But, in this case, as I pointed out, and I'll say this again, this whole thing that everybody is now repeating as an article came from where? Now, before that article was posted, what was the subject on our program for almost two hours? And we were talking and have been talking about alternate signal communications and alternate computer technologies. Now here's the kicker, if we are diversified and use many many different systems and this is what for us, this is what they're scared of. You see, if I can convince everybody to use the same system, what have I told you guys before over and over again? As an intelligence analyst, it's easier for me to track you if I can put you all in the same can. But if you're all diversified, if you actually have many different ideas about how to do things, it's a nightmare for intelligence. That's what they're scared of is the idea to start thinking this way that instead of waiting you're hoping for the system to you know Hand over some silver bullet technology and we can all play with it We'll all be so excited We're all told it's so secure only to find out a year and a half two years later that there's a backdoor to everything That they were all spying on us. It's good Okay, whatever And every time that we discuss something that's an alternate solution, you'll notice some article pops up telling you all about how it's beautiful resist and how whatever that idea was, it's crazy. Have you noticed this? I've been keeping track. Ed knows. I keep a log book, guys. I date what I do. And then I watch other activities. That's one of the reasons I do it. It's like, oh yeah, we covered that subject. In fact, here's the information that somebody mentioned on the air just in case because I can't memorize the 50,000 websites that we cover in a year or the 100,000 websites we cover in a year. Do you know how many different sites and locations and bits of information are passed out by you guys? That's the advantage of doing the program this way. All of you helped make it happen. A lot of cool things that we find out about, we go out and clear off the shelf. But Mark, would it help us to keep an alternate log of your show? Well, it's for your own fun because like I said, Nancy laughs at Arsoff. When I'm doing the program in the morning, she can hear what I'm doing in the AM program. By noon to 1 o'clock, you'll hear it on Glenn Beck. You'll hear it on all these other talk shows that are international during the day. Hey, Dad. Before we run out of time. I'm sorry, Pete Ed. We're not control freaks. We don't copyright what we're doing here. This is for educating people. We're not going to go around and tell people it's okay to copy stuff and then turn around and sue them. And then sue them, yeah. And then use your real name to sue them, which is why people find out who's who in the zoo. Oops, that's right. Somebody else was doing that. Yeah. See, my point is that again if you pay attention guys, and this is happening so often now that it tells me something that again, if they can't get people channeled into that narrow track that supposedly are the two sides that they need, then it really messes with the big game plan. And our objective is to win and also again the process to survive and drag as many people through to the other side as we can, our people. And unlike the betrayals that typically take place if you have a revolt or a revolution or a war to try and free yourself of the turds, we're going to make sure we've got enough toilet paper to wipe the turds out of our system. And flush them. And that means we're not going to let them hang on or cling on some other way because that's what they're planning on trying to do. They're trying to figure out how they can set up an opposition or fake opposition and plug the same BS in all over again, which we can't afford. Anyway, we're at the top of the hour. God bless the republic. That's the new old order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The empire is on the run. We're on a mark. See you next. and the next hour on Liberty Tree Radio. Bye-bye. Water down its roots, the tea And the sun will always shine Oh Liberty Tree, it's a tall, the strong, it's a tall And yes we are the suns, the suns of Liberty HempUSA.org urges everyone to plan ahead for possible food shortages in the future. We offer this dense nutrient-storeable food directly from the farm to your door. What the world needs is our energy-packed hemp food in a storeable, portable form that can easily and quickly be picked up for travel. 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