January 16, 2014
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1h 1m
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2014
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Mark Koernke and Don Vetcher discussed recent police shootings of civilians in Michigan, including a teacher killed by state troopers in Ludington. They covered night vision and thermal imaging equipment for sale, including handheld devices, gun sights, and laser systems, with detailed technical specifications and pricing. The hosts also discussed the Sentinel 9mm carbine using Beretta magazines, Czech submachine guns, and the reintroduction of the Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) at the SHOT Show with modern specifications.
- michigan state police
- police shootings
- night vision
- thermal imaging
- gun sights
- laser systems
- sentinel carbine
- beretta magazines
- czech submachine guns
- browning automatic rifle
- shot show
- preparedness
- second amendment
- self-defense
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You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. And pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iookeed vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample, each God given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free and home? Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kurnkey. And I'm Don Vetcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com. We're on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and ultra net technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the hallmark network on eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma. Big jungle Nebraska. A whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third, the fifth, the pit, and the seven sisters on the left side of Wyoming. The clipboard warriors recalling the feces in Colorado. Gonna have to do it again. Hopefully they're in motion and got the right idea. We'll see how that turns out. The left coast itself under occupation and more and more obviously the game is afoot as they say. uh... the state of jefferson the shiny like otherwise eight dark area of uh... sputum stench and excrement exceeded by the disgusting blob known as fine time throw the wall of six and then cut it slides down but it just did he should just won't let go which is block up anyway trade-back to the street across the plane leap over the burgeoning banks of the mississippi Land in the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge, where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, OK teams, and the mob bell, grandma consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the golden spike. Many hands make for light work. A million Peddicoat Junction operators, the ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well, I'll tell you what, Dom, we've had a little snow. Actually, we've had white out for a few minutes. Where we are here not so much but to the east of us pretty dense fine high altitude snow so guys still it's a little little blustery out there as far as a little wave here a little wave there, but Probably about an inch and a half accumulation very powdery very dusty gonna blow right off the roads which it already is and And start drifting obviously so pay attention if you're headed home, and you're not quite out of work yet if you're here in Michigan Don, what's it like in your neck of the woods and what's the date today, sir? We could say ditto on the weather. That snow came in, filled up tracks that would go back into the woods and the tracks in the driveway. Everything looked fresh, but it only filled it up because, well, it just settled down in there because the breeze blew it around. It didn't adhere to anything. I cleaned off the windows today, Mark, just by capping the window like I'm knocking on someone's door and the snow just fell off like sand coming out of an hourglass. Only it fell straight down. So again, almost no adhesion. You can't make any snowballs out of this stuff unless you want to breathe on it for a while. But hey, we're going to fight them with snowballs, aren't we? It is the 16th day of January. We're 16 days into the year of our Lord, 2014. Latine's there, but I don't have attention to numbers. Sometimes it's apparent. Ask the banker, ask Mark when it comes to time. But again, 2014. A couple of things to touch on here real quick, Mark. I could stack it in one order or another, but in the last 48 hours, two different people have been shot in their homes by the Michigan State Troopers, you know, the Blue Demons. One over here in Ludington, apparently they were, he and his wife were drinking and she decided to call the police and the State Trooper showed up and the guy he'd been to his doorway with and the super-decider to shoot him and so he shot a Luddington teacher to death. At any rate, just, you know, we've addressed this before. This is something I don't know the names, I don't know exactly, you know, it happened on this street and it happened at that time. How does that go, you know, your enemy rears its head? This is true. We've addressed this so many different times in so many different ways and have a shooting a day. I wonder what's going to come out today or maybe they'll take a break and just decide to shoot someone else tomorrow. And I don't say that in jest. I don't say that out of speculation. I don't say that to be jovial. You didn't hear me start this, well, all things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia, did you? Now, was that the first incident, Don? Oh, that was the one that happened last night. And there was one that happened apparently within the day before that over here, more toward the center of Michigan. You know, the one thing that I have to say is it appears If this were to happen to someone we know, we'd have known about it in an hour or two. So these aren't politically active unless they're politically active in small groups. Mr. Otto was politically active for a good long time until General Motors decided that they didn't want him there anymore. And then when he became a teacher, he was pulling it inside his school trying to describe to most his classes were almost exactly all young men because not a whole lot of Young women take classes in old houses, okay? That was for the Livonia school system every year and then the Livonia school systems would sell that house. But again, you guys, teachers do all kinds of things and teachers live in their own small circles and it makes me wonder because you know, teachers are the, I know they don't get paid for anything, but you know another one of the elitists is, and I know they don't get paid for anything, you know, they can sit around the on Friday night and bemoan those facts to each other. In fact, even one of the sitcoms right now has a cop married to a teacher. The leadest thought line there is, maybe in some small circles, perhaps someone talked about the teacher and what he was talking about, or maybe he was even talking about the, oh, the illegality. I think I got that word right during the day, the Michigan. Mark, he went there and shot that teacher because, well, the teacher raised a gun and was just about to shoot the governor. For the people that are scratching, it's wondering, what is Don talking about? Man, this guy's so... Did you know that a long, long time ago, grandfathers were our age, or a little younger? The government said, well, boys, you can't have any gold anymore, and well, they called it gold, other than, you know, the wedding ring off your brother's finger. And when the governor's... You know, the governors even way, way a long time ago had meetings every year. And they'd get together and they'd pat each other on the back and they'd pass other things and women and other things. And the government called in the gold. The major topic of the governor's meetings from around the United States was, hey, I don't think the people are going to like that. And in fact, I'm hearing a lot about they don't like that. In fact, some of them are shaking their fist at me. And we had better do something about this. So the governors looked at each other and tried, they scratched their heads a little more and passed the bottle a little. One of them said, we need personal bodyguards, but we need to make it. One said, yeah, hey, that's a good idea. There used to be state patrols and highway patrol and other things. In some places they still call themselves highway patrol and the state patrol and whatnot. But here in Michigan was born the state police. and the state police the inception of the very thought line. Much like the NRA has strayed from its mission to the extent that the founders would not even recognize the NRA anymore, you guys, the state police here in Michigan was founded to be the governor's bodyguards. Poor teacher who went to his door with a gun in his hand must have been a threat to the governor mark because that state trooper shot him dead. I don't mean to just talk about You know, make a long story, a short story, long or nothing. But you know, let's go to the other side of the coin because I'll be quiet for the rest of the hour Mark. There's just one word I might interject every now and then, but let's just say this. And there should be, people should be wearing t-shirts and bumper stickers and this should be the tagline at the bridge embankment or on the old abandoned building. Be quiet now. But they were only following orders. Well, if you're a communist, that's okay, you see. That's going to be the problem with this. If everything with regard to this is arbitrary, so remember that once we just need to understand each other, click that are the Soviets, continue to gain more power, then like we're seeing with their queer agenda and everything else, they'll start getting more and more in your face and they'll be right out in the open about their demon worshipping and the whole nine yards, which makes a lot easier to shoot them too. But that's an aside. As it is, One of the things that is the most common problem here that I think would be the foundational element is, well, it taught that person not to call the police. Remember how we warned everybody about that? Unless you want a warring third party on your front lawn, I'm not going to call the police for anything. I might let them know if there's a body laying out in the front, like on the road. And even there, or an accident as quickly as it happens, but I'll call the fire department if I can first before I call the police, and call whoever quickly, and then beyond that, it's, well, whatever. But I'm sorry, any kind of situation, you are the only person that's gonna be perceived as the enemy, you know, who had the property owner. And what you're seeing here in each case, of course, we don't know about the second one, the incident, don't have all the details on it yet. Just as it happened, nothing else. So these run in strings, and it is true, they actually run in threes, guys, so pay attention. Watch your back, and thank goodness there's lots of really nasty, bad, cold weather. Because the nastier the weather, the more they're going to hang towards the donut munching sites, or the free food, or free coffee, or hang back in a place where they're out of sight and playing video games or piddling with their computer, their laptop, in the front seat. Which is fine by me, so that's the only thing it's probably reducing Government crime is the cold weather wave and that's about it Otherwise I'll tell you what before we're going to father down because I'm not gonna let you be quiet for very long here well I want to make sure we have this in the body of the program we have a lot of people that listen via echo and So down if we need to get hold of you we need to get hold of night vision technology How would we do that and what do we have available? Well my phone numbers two three one seven nine six 5, 8, again, 2, 3, 1, 7, 9, 6, 8, 4, 5, 8, goggles or gun sights, you guys, green screens or thermal, you know, starlight or heat, starlight or flier. I can put a piece manufactured right by the FLIR company in your mailbox, a thermal viewer for under $2,000. That's entry-level thermal, you guys. We can go over to a first-generation gun sight, 308 capable, you know, main battle rifle recoil, No problem. That 22, no problem. Put that right in your mailbox. $429. A simple green screen viewer of little first generation device. $200. Give me a call, you guys. My number is 23179684. 58231. 79658. Goggles or gun sights. Intermediate and I pay scale here into an intermediate thermal range. Now you're looking at gun sights a one power thermal gun sight in point a true mount it wasn't just something that oh we've got we will put a gun sight on sight one power hundred bucks right in your mailbox if you want to go way up we can talk about it'll live on top your 50 caliber thousand dollars and that's a big chunk of change off what the manufacturer wants so my number is two three one seven nine five eight you guys I know man you just I just talked about something, a gun site that was $8,000. Only a year and a half. Well, hey, it's two years ago now. From a gun site of that capability was like $15,000. I don't think in some instances, price is gonna come down because well, they're building a whole lot more of it, but I don't think they're gonna double up imaging devices to rely on the next little while. So I think that's, we're kinda seeing that plait down and we're at the bottom of that pulley, it stays a plait, it has to peak up again. but that will be portion of demand we know how demand works if you try to binding to two shells lately again my phone number three one seven nine six eight four five eight mark i've heard a number of things there there's a couple places i want to go but we need to find out if we've got any colors waiting in the wings their stand and color view jump in there again star six unmute yourself just to be safe and one and a two here's a question something you know what we've seen a number of picatinny rail multi fixtures down let me ask you something thermal as a can i know this is a chunk of change but uh... the thermal site that we're talking about if it's a thermal gun site it doesn't have uh... cross hairs or or yes the single post what what it did to crosshair So, that actually is the sighting system. Oh, yes. So, for everybody that wants to understand that, because one of the things that would be interesting, especially with the AK type fixtures, is you have actually three-point picatinny rails that are made, that are coming in, that allow you to put a fixture on the left, something, you know, there's a fixture on the left, fixture on the right, fixture on the top. Conventional night vision would give you, obviously, you know, advantage for the majority of the issues you're facing, but if you wanted to confirm, Is there a less expensive non-rifle site thermal that could be mounted on that Picatinny rail? I don't know if the handheld was going to, because it's not built for recoil, shock. I'm hoping that we're going and running along the same place here. But I see where you're going with that because We offer up the example of the device that looks like a pair of binoculars. Only one eye is thermal and the other eye is green screen, second or third generation, depending on your preference. And that visual coordinate, when those images splash around right there in about the middle of your, you know, that battlefield computer between your ears, they mix together. Now you're looking at the fine image and picture quality of the green screen, and you're also looking at the heat discerning different things, only they're over the same place. We've talked about this a number of times, really lousy camouflage in the daytime under a tree. You're walking along and you're sneaking and you're looking and you look over there and you see this guy and he's trying to hide. But the camouflage is almost too stupid. You put your elbow in your buddy's ribs and you say, look over there, he's trying to hide from us. Then you negate the problem. If he were in a good shadow at night, you might not see him, even with third generation. We've pointed this out. We've beat this drum bang bang and we beat it every time we get over to this subject almost. But it's illustrated or it is conveyed visually and digitally, I might add, in the night vision video. A night vision device will adjust to the brightest object in its field of view, be it the taillights of a car, I advise you not to point it at the moon or the taillights of a car when the guys on the brakes are not. Because, well, there's a lot of red light there. It'll adjust to the brightest image in its field of view. Now, if you've got a full moon, you're not going to see much in the shadows of the pine tree. Okay? The night vision video resources that. And we've got some background. And do we have a caller? We have somebody who's unmuted. Who do we have? To be patient for a moment. Go ahead, caller. OK, we may have somebody unmuting themselves then. That'll be the next step. Don, the other thing about this, again, let's reemphasize the idea of coordinating the use of laser. Because a lot of people don't realize that there are other colors of laser, not that will really be discerned with a night vision device, because that's green screen. But we also have infrared laser, don't we? Oh, the night vision device. See that near naked eye, wouldn't it? So there's some convenience there, but you have to understand that the other guy with the piece of night vision, he's going to see that too. Exactly. And much like tracers, tracers work both ways. We can address lasers in a number of ways. One of the easiest ways, and I answer this question a lot to callers, can I look down my handgun or my long gun with a pair with a set of goggles on or with a single tube viewer as like headgear? Now the device, much like your human eye, isn't going to focus. You can see the blade and the notch and your target. It's just not going to... Your eye can't do that. You're asking something that's not as good as your eye in many ways. Granted, it can see in the dark, but it's not as good as your eye in a number of ways to do something your eye can't do. Oh, with that in mind, you can focus on the gun and not see the target, or you can focus on the target and not see the gun, you know, in particular like the notch and the blade. But if you only have a single tube viewer as example, then it might be held to your head with a piece of head gear. It might be hanging from your helmet. You might hold it in your hand and in your other hand your handgun. Now we talk about, you know, there's not a whole lot of sense in trying to, you know, handgun at something and shoot it. That might work to 10 yards, 15 yards for some people who have practiced for a long, long time, but we encourage folks to take aim around here, don't we? But again, we don't discourage that if need be on your way up to aim if you have to poke one down the barrel at them. And if you hit them, well that's all well and good, isn't it? Before, as you're bringing the gun up to looking down the sights. Every situation is different and you just might have to clear leather and bang one that way and then start to take aim. Who is to say? But when you think about at night, you see something that is, you know, you confirm you want to shoot that no matter what it is, you know, be it two legs or four. And now you've got the night vision device in one hand and you bring your handgun up and to the best of your ability, well, let's back up a little bit. You've already got a laser on the handgun that's pressure switch activated, not on and off. There's a reason why. But you've already got that zeroed, right? Now you want a pressure switch so you touch the pressure on and you touch the pressure off and it goes on and off real quick. And if you happen to drop the gun for some reason or another, well there's just not a laser shining into the sky where, you know, crew served weapons have a, to shoot at things like that. They just want those lights out, you know, the laser and you. Here we are, we're looking at this target with the night vision. held in one hand. Or it might be, well let's continue with this, held in one hand. You bring the handgun up with the other hand and to the best of your ability you point it at the target. You don't necessarily have to have it in the sight of the night vision. Whatever is natural for you, it might be waist high, it might be arm outstretched, it might be an abbreviated weaver stance and all of the other cool things that you've been taught and trained. To the best of your ability your gun is pointing right at the target, right? Now the next can take place much faster than it can be described. The gun is pointed at the target. You pressure, this you correct for aim, you take the pressure off the switch. So the laser is in the air for an instant while you correct for aim and take the shot. And it can happen even, it can happen when you practice the laser seems to be in the air for a quarter of a second. Hardly enough reaction time for even someone standing there, facing the person as that laser on their chest for them to realize what it is and to warn them. You can shoot at night without having a true gun sight with a handgun. You can, it gets a lot more cumbersome. It's not too bad if you are at rest and the front of the rifle is rested on a sandbag or the wall. Rest your gun on a brick wall or a wood wall, throw some rag or something over there, even if it's just, you know, so rude as to say, you know, You throw some rag or something over the wall when the gun recoils. Concrete doesn't mar the gun or whatnot. But if you have that single bit of night vision and a rifle that has a lot of people put lasers on their rifles too, the same thing can happen with your rifle. Again, you get really to the best of your ability on target. The laser comes on, you correct frame, you take the shot and you turn the laser off. I'm going to pay a couple hundred dollars for a new piece of first generation night vision handheld. And I'm going to pay for a good dependable... You can get a lot of junk lasers out there you guys, you really can. There are some cool lasers. I've looked at people who have been in the business for a long time. I won't mention any names, but there are some really good dependable lasers out there. Spend a little bit more for them. To about $80 to $100 for a laser for your pistol with a... very dependable either it is adjustable in the mount, the azimuth and elevation are adjusted little allen wrenches as example you know hex wrenches inside the laser itself so that you can instead of like using the iron sights on your handgun that are you know just cast into the slides believe it or not there are some guns like that and where the point of aim has well you have to learn where the point of aim is compared to the point of impact That's not good with a laser because again the farther away you get the bigger the mistake is. Bring it to a zero. Make certain you have that ability to adjust. If you have to adjust in the mount, I'll sit here and I'll kind of say there are some cool ones but that's more primitive. It is generally a mount that instead of grabs the trigger guard that's more primitive. The more universe going to be to work on your gun. Now those are some broad brushes but every one of them is true. not to the nth degree, but enough to say that well, I've been there, I've done that. So again, you know, if you look for something real specific to your gun, you guys, you can spend a little more than $89. I'm not certain what those grips cost for your 1911 or for your Beretta or for your whatever, that have the pressure right in the grip and the laser right in the grip. Now that's not too far from the barrel. There are some lasers, way cool, go right in under the barrel on that spring guide on your 1911, way cool because that's almost a parallel under the barrel. Once you get that zeroed in, there's no compensation for yardage other than drop. Mark, I told you I'd be quiet a long time ago. be quiet. The other thing, again, with regard to going with the thermal system, and you mentioned the shock absorption, what is the upper range? What's the biggest thing we can put that $8,000 unit on? What would you say? You're 50. It will handle 50 recoil, that's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. You're Barrett, you're Armalite, you're a gun from Ronnie. You know, or yeah, Ronnie Barrett, your gun from Rock McMillan, your gun from Mark Westrom, your gun from Larry Watson. That's Watson's weapons. Now again, we're looking at some interesting, here's another thing. Because it would be perhaps going on a 50 and the recoil cycle might be just a little longer, There are variable sizes of eye cups that can be accessed. We'd probably want a little more standoff with that, wouldn't we? That would be a good idea. I'm not certain how much longer the boots are, the eye cups on the devices that the manufacturer says. This will live on a 50. really well. You want to switch hands that we have a matching set. We can go from right to left and then left to right. What the hell happened? You're wearing glasses? Oh my goodness, no they're not. Doing my raccoon imitation. How did you get those? Well, let's just say it's a painful mission but someone's got to do it. So again, the reason I bring this up is because there are some companies that specialize in either bringing in the Russian, the different Russian ordnance eyepieces like that made out of whatever plastics and or rubber depending upon the era. Some of them okay, some of them a little tired or long of the tooth but still they're so heavily, they're so industrially made that they don't really wear out. They're probably stiff. A little trick there, heat them up with warm water, put them on what they belong on and if they're going to shrink a little bit again or contract a little bit, guess what they contract to? They contract to the device so they fit perfectly and snugly and they don't go anywhere guys So that's not a problem there been a number of different eyepieces that were generated for the Russian sniper scopes which were passive night vision and if you've noticed guys some of those are Fairly long you know in other words rather than just simply a little standoff about half an inch with a little buffer bumper and It actually has a main channel, then a corrugated area, and then a final eye cup that's another one inch long with an eye socket, you know, wraparound. Just pretty cool. Now you don't see those as often as you used to, but there are companies bringing those in from Romania, Bulgaria, also from China. Not as much of the stuff comes from China in that category. Most of it you'll see from Eastern Europe. With the polls and the checks being bought off, their politicians are whoring out to NATO. Well, since they're selling off the government, the good stuff that the checks and the Poles were making the only good thing I can say is we're benefiting from it then they're getting stuck with the NATO punk junk that they're replacing it with which is really crappy and I'm gonna tell you that flat out some really crappy gear. Mark you've sparked a thought line I don't mean to interrupt you and I told you I wouldn't talk a whole lot but as soon as you said check you made me think of something you guys you know that oozy. It was the star of a number of movies for a while and everybody wanted one for a while. It's the pride of Israel, why that general designed it and all of that. It's an Israeli original. An Israeli general designed it. Take a look at the check 24, 23. That's exactly where I was going, man. Exactly. Thank you very much. It's all in the salesmanship, I'm telling you. Trust me, it was the first of its kind. It's a jaguar. You mean a jaguar? No, it's a jaguar. I'm telling you, it's really designed like nothing anyone else has. Well, they did change one thing. It was a 7.62x25, which was actually better in that weapon than 9mm. But they were buying World War II German surplus and mass, which is why they did that. Plus they were being given stuff from Germany, you know, Germany in general and from England. So that's why they went with the 9. The 76-2 was going on. The 76-2 with 25 was actually a better submachine gun cartridge for distance than that 9mm ever would be. Oh yeah, well the Peppier 41. Problem is at the time there wasn't as much of that being released by anybody because they were using it for themselves. That's the only reason they geared it over to where they went because they went with what they had in mass in the system for supply. If you ever look at pictures of SF in Germany in the 50s, the guys carried was the Czech 24s because it was such a reliable weapon and it was very accurate. There's a number of, in fact the best place if you want to get an example of them and they have every variant by one of the cheapest models of the bunch. ApexGunParts.com, ApexGunParts.com, they probably have the single largest selection of all the variants of the Czech submachine guns that they're offered as kits. Now they're cut kits, but you can get a pretty good idea of what everybody's, you know, in terms of quality, workmanship, how the things were put together, and then compare it to the Uzi and you'll see where they stole the idea from. You know, they virtually just, you know, slid it south, so to speak. Yeah, we had crates of those and crates of spongons and I mean they were about a shoot and like I said, they were very long because the 9mm cartridge down gun just didn't make a whole lot of sense. Carrying the garand in weight but having the range of a light pistol. Well, of a submachine gun or a carbine basically. Yeah. Well, you put the... the Crimson Trace Laser Gifted down I was just talking about. I actually bought one and put it on my M9 for my back deployment and and it is a very made, I mean I'm not a huge laser fan but I thought that was the best of both. You've covered it all day. Well that's where I thought you were. My mother and I actually thought that was pretty funny when I said, she asked me, she said, what do you need that for? So well it's my static because I carried one. I haven't set a $300 laser grips that I had on my... And the investment or more is already there. There's just no sense of not spending the rest. Right. One of the best things for visual lasers is they are great dry fire training aids. Oh yes, for again the initial point, get the gun in the general direction and again steady. Well plus if you have a group of people you're trying to advise as to the error of their ways, you put that on the center of one guy's chest. The other guys tend to have certain various You brought this to everybody's attention. The old timer across the road, he was vigilant in defense of his 120 acres and come deer season people would come up the road and be shining. You hear them, the motor slow down and they turn on the light just as they cross the creek with 60 yards south of me. By the time they're about 30 yards into the woods, I'm generally out in the road and I let them get a little bit farther down the road. and I shine a laser through the cab or into the car and the light goes off and they speed away. The county or the township I live in, it's county or it's out in the country, but they have a no spotlighting ordinance because there used to be a lot of outlaws up there. The high revving capacity when someone shines a spotlight into a field and then you fire up above them, it's pretty As long as we're on this subject, let's hold here for just another moment because the DNR here in Michigan is known to have set up 12 and 14 point deer that aren't deer. They just put their tail and they turn their head a little bit and they sit back and wait for the shiner to come and shoot it. Some of these deer are so full of holes because the shiner shoots it and it doesn't run away and it doesn't fall down. The dummies They shoot it again and they shoot it again. And then he had the tail wiggling and hopefully the DNR rescues the poor fake deer before then. Yeah, the possum sheriffs in Pennsylvania and Maryland do the same thing. The guy looks like he's directly out of CAG, well, Delta. And they post saying they have a 25 man elite tactical unit for their part life. It's a four-man army. It's good to know what kind of equipment you'll be pulling off their corpse. He had a Texas flag on the middle of his plate carrier. Whoever it was that marketed it out to him made the top dollar on the program too. I guarantee there were no discounts. Well, we've got a couple of comments about stupid in there. Let's continue that thought line for a moment because the local news told me this evening, Mark, that before 5 o'clock they're going to tell me about here at the 5 o'clock news, which I'm not listening to now. I'm just watching. Multiple break-ins in Big Rapids since the middle of the summer and into the fall. Well, multiple break-ins in Big Rapids, the college town 9 miles south of me. Well, again, overnight. multiple break-ins and mark you mentioned at the front of the hour that it's been snowing the cops load the tracks from a house to a car that was robbed and robbed and back to the guy's house you'll never figure out i walked backwards yeah i walked backwards straight back to my house though yeah that fresh snow especially again when when well Who knows if he was stupid enough to be doing it because you just need to take care of his fix. You got to figure the IQ was down anyway. He'll be drying out real quick. He'll have so many months to take care of that because I don't think he'll be out and on the swing anytime soon. I heard another voice here before going farther. Who do you have another caller? Yeah, this is Georgia Patriot. Go ahead. Hey Georgia. How are you all doing today? Great. How about you? I got back from the time with the vampire and I've been And now they come out with a 9mm thanking. Do you think this would be something good to... Who's making it? It's a Sentinel carbine? Yes sir. Well I haven't actually seen it yet. I'm going to actually have to track it down. Sentinel is making... now there's a number of other arms that they've made but is this something they just came out with? I believe so because... Maybe at the SHOT Show right now. Because remember the SHOT Show is going on right now. Yeah, that's where I got the link. to For light rifles, where is the magazine? Does it follow the trigger group or do they have it inside the pistol grip? It is just like the M1 carbine. Oh, okay, cool. Remember what I said and what I've been saying all along about making the next batch of rifles, how to do it? That's right off the bat, an intelligent move. Although, rather than Beretta, obviously the guy probably is a 92 fan. I would have gone with Glock. At this point in time, only because there's so much more of them. Yeah, there's so many more. It's not that I love Glock. It's just the idea that whenever you build it, you want to crank it out so that as many mags as possible, your better out there will fit it. Now, there's lots of Beretta mags. There really are. There's piles because the 92 has been around for a long, long time now. I mean, come on. Back since the late 70s, early 80s. So, a lot of guys are carrying them or at least have them because they use them in service, which is an overlap. It always happens that way. I've got these grips. I need a gun for it. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, surplus. I like that. I had to bring that up. That's the best thing I've heard in a little while. The other thing too is remember, a lot of times, even though it might take a Burta mag specifically, you want to test a lot of the other staggered capacity mags because you'd be surprised how many lock right into the magazine well. The only thing that gets me is, okay, they have the, you know, it's a blue rifle with a synthetic stock. Right. Okay, that is, it says the MRM-39, it says the one with the wood, and they come with two 10 round magazines. They are a Beretta pattern mag. So again, that just a matter of like CDN and investments, JG sales, I think everybody's pretty well has some Beretta mags laying on the shelf. So you can go either after market or factory for those. I'm not too worried about you. That's okay. As long as they work. More important is just reliability and cheap. The standard mags would be the best price. I guarantee it for volume. The standard mags that they have are 10 rounders. for $26 for $3 more, you get a 17 rounder. Yeah, I think I wouldn't worry about that 10 round limiting capacity. That's for the poor people that are in the communist states, or the more communist than the other communist states, let's put it that way. So the big thing there is take what comes with it and then expand real quick. The big advantage here is just like we always said, cowboy gun. You have a cowboy combo, a 45 long Colt pistol with a 45 long Colt lever action rifle. The Marlin camp car beams, the one in 45 using 1911 mag. In this case you have a Beretta rifle. If you have a Beretta rifle it would make sense to lean towards this rifle. That would be my first one right off the bat. Anybody out there listening who had a Beretta Model 92? It makes sense to me that I'm carrying one mag but I've got two weapons covered. Know what I mean? So that would be one of the first reasons that I'd go in that direction. The synthetic stock, I know you probably like the wood, but if the synthetic stock is $100 less, about, I'd go the synthetic and buy lots and lots of mags for the $100 difference. I like wood, but again, depending on how both stocks look pretty much the same, is there something unique about the synthetic stock? I think home maybe maybe a storeable dock I don't know. Yeah because typically a cash stock offers you a lot of other places to put things if you look at it as a stash rifle. Oh, we lose Georgia Patriot? I hear silence. He might have what we might have lost him accidentally. We are getting close to the top Dom. What's the time there right now? Oh, we're looking at about six seven more minutes an hour. I figured as much. They're about the same. Coming into the studio just as a quick overview here, we have a black, forgive me, a gray demon cat that somebody got rid of and he's become our resident station security. I came in to do the program and he's sitting there so proudly as soon as he heard the door open up, I can see I catch him just as he's sitting down. Right next to the feeding bowl that he has, which of course is next to his forever water, he looks down at the mouse laying next to the feed bowl. He looks at me like, see, I saved it for you. I looked at the mouse and I actually checked it. It's very warm, so he just got it a little bit ago. But when I decided not to consume it apparently, He looked at me again, he waited until we were doing the program, and around the corner I hear crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, and the mouse is gone. Apparently I was given the opportunity to share in the feast, but since I decided not to, he wasn't going to take any chance that somebody else might show up. I have this one cat, Little Gray. She's the oldest cat in our house. She's about, oh, from 2002. She's about 12 years old now. A number of years ago, I'm in the top of the barn across the street, leaning across Prudence, 50 cal, waiting for the 32-point buck to walk under my gun. And I hear meow. And my cat, when she would go outside, I don't let her outside anymore, that cat, she was up in the loft with me. And I put the gun down a little bit, and I picked up the cat and it's hard to crawl down a ladder when you're holding a cat, particularly those ladders that go straight up and down mounted to the barn. Back to the wall. Yeah. So I take her down and I put her on the floor down there and I scramble back up and the time I get comfortable behind the gun and get quiet again, you know. And now this time I take her in one hand and I get most of the way down and I kind of drop her onto a couch that's there in the barn, an old old old couch. I don't know if she appreciated it or not, but I got back up behind the gun. I'm there about 15 minutes and I hear, no. Little Gray's looking at me and looking down at the mouse she brought me. I don't know if she knew what I was doing, but like, I'm a hunter too. Look, I brought one for you. You don't have to sit out here in the cold. I'm better than you are. Yeah, we can eat now. Well, the mouse-o-matic here is, he's an older boy and it's sad that somebody tossed him out, but I'd rather that, you know, that we got him than the Humane Society because he probably wouldn't be with us. But as it is, he's just the perfect all-around utility mousing monster and he is big. He is a big, long beast. So, he's doing his job. He made sure he showed it to me that the station is safe from that particular rodentia that was deciding to pilfer or nibble on something in here. Not only did I get rid of them, boss, I'll make them disappear. That's right. Crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch. As it is, we are almost to the top here, guys. Just a quick recap. Any of the light car beans provided they're reasonably priced. Of course, you're paying for quality and construction materials, etc. We know how that works and skill. There's a lot of stuff that's going to be coming out of the SHOT Show that is rather interesting. I believe that From the Trenches World Report, Henry Post, you'll have to go back through the scroll. Don, a young gentleman, much younger than us, working with one of the research groups, has reintroduced the BAR. Cool. So it's been brought... Are they building them? Yeah, they're building them. Apparently they brought them up to modern specs. It looks... I'm going to have to find out more about the whole machining process. The BAR receivers guys were one of the most intricate, it was the most machine intensive weapons that we built. Most people don't know that. If you look at a Browning machine gun, Browning, you know, Browning model 1919s guys, they're all square and flat and production friendly. Take a look at them. The BAR on the other hand had a lot of special features incorporated and concepts that were part of what was a very reliable gun, in fact notoriously so. It's the weapon that Bonnie and Clyde preferred which most people don't realize. If you see all the movies they always show them with Thompson guns and things like that. Well yeah, they got Thompson guns from people. But one of the things that they really preferred They even had a couple of custom guns built basically or modified from the original and were very successful with the BAR in 30.06. One thing I've got to say, and this might sound contrary, a lot of people might be disappointed in this statement, but I hope he didn't lighten the gun. It looks like what he did is what they did do is come up with a compensator system. And what they're arguing is that it has less felt recoil than the original gun. It is smaller, and the only problem I have there is, as we've said, I'd have to look to see what muzzle flash combined with, you know, again, the existing velocities. The .30-06 has a great deal of potential. The more apparel you have, the more, obviously, greater range of energy you can put down to delivering on the target. And the heavier the gun is, the more stable it is, particularly when you're going, blah, blah, blah, blah. The other thing he did was came up with a 30 round mag for it too. The 20s were generally available to the US military while everybody else's magazine fed squad guns were typically 30s. The 20 was the standard production to the point where up until somebody started making semi-autos again there were just pallets and pallets and pallets of these things laying around for $2 apiece forever. The BAR mags were a drug on the market. There were just tons of them. As soon as somebody started selling a BAR, well, now they can start charging premium prices. Today, they're not $2, as we said, but that's true of all surplus. In this case, especially worth American surplus. The other thing is there are a lot of BARs that have been out there in service, not just with the US but with other countries for many, many, many, many years. Most of those are pretty well out of service but not completely gone. You'll still find weapons of that type in Southeast Asia, just about anything and everything that shoots is still in service in Southeast Asia. You'll find in Unintended Consequences that book by John Ross a couple of descriptions and applications. running automatic rifles in very uh... what one might seem skillful application actually so it that's another thing that coming out of the shot show and the if you be able to look it up uh... fact if you scroll back to henry's uh... postings you'll find an article on that i'm pretty sure it was henry that posted it and uh... definitely worth reading taking a look at uh... what i noticed right away was the somewhat looking internally at some of the shots of close-up shots A little different. It may be an infusion casting rather than a stamping and then a final finish like you see on the AR-15. 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