January 14, 2014
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1h 1m
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2014
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Mark Koernke discussed preparedness, scavenging, and improvisation on the afternoon show of January 14, 2014. Callers shared tips on salvaging parts from old equipment, body bags as emergency sleeping gear, and ice safety in Michigan winters. The show featured extensive discussion of CR123A lithium batteries available at a steep discount from BG Micro, EMP protection using Faraday cages, and barter systems for survival supplies. Topics included oil-filled heater switches, mercury thermostat switches, grease for firearm maintenance, and the practical applications of various salvaged materials.
- preparedness
- scavenging
- cr123a batteries
- faraday cage
- emp protection
- michigan winter
- ice safety
- barter
- salvage
- night vision
- lithium batteries
- bg micro
- firearm maintenance
- communications
- survival supplies
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Live 365 You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children can be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free and home ladies and gentlemen this is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report I'm our kirky one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories west central east and north well ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on liberty tree radio dot for mg dot com or an indiana freedom talk radio dot com we're on a minute and micro stations cb base stations and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to the Aleutians. Well, we're in the Hallmark, and we're from the top of the... I mean, the bottom of Florida, from the bottom of Florida, because you're arguably off of Mexico, headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both 3rd and 5th, and our friends in the... State of Colorado recall recall no no we're not talking total recall We're talking get reading getting rid of the parasites in the chairs using the petition system to do it They bailed and threw another parasite in well throw another petition together and do it a second time Anyway, uh, the left coast where we have the state of Jefferson and then there's the rest of the occupied zone to include the California Soviet Socialist Democracy, an area that is dominated by the spew, the sputum, the stench, the disgusting snail trail of Feinsteinism, along with the diaper stain of Brown. Well, turning back to the east away from that horrible smell that those valiant patriots have to withstand while fighting behind the lines there, we sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippian land and the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge, where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, OK teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work a million petticoat junction operators. The ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well, I'll tell you what. It is gray. It's been a beautiful day pretty much, but we're heading towards sundown, guys. It's just the way it is. So, got a little bit of haze coming in. Thank you, Lord. That means we might actually keep whatever heat we gain. As long as we got cloud cover, might get some snow tomorrow, in theory, or maybe even late, late, late tonight. Doesn't look likely for tonight yet. Probably tomorrow, the way it's going. But, be prepared for that, and remember that today's date is... Why, no way, it's the 14th of January. It is the sixth year of open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist occupation of America with a K2014 Old Earth Calendar or Mayan Crazy Town Calendar. Working with Heinden off today got a lot of technical work done working on a couple of antennas I ran into some interesting issues realizing there's a few parts that I hadn't picked up and Fortunately, I had some scrap buckets that I always do later on Taking some of the detritus debris and chunk of see able to improvise a couple of brackets Still need one more for another antenna, but not a problem Strangely enough we ended up with a markdown on some bumper mounts or with antennas. And you don't see those very often without having a special order nowadays or go to a decent CB shop. But these were in excellent condition, couple dollars apiece. They were missing and it wasn't really noticeable until after you got them out. It didn't make any difference, it was just the set screws. And since today we have the wonders of stainless steel, I went into my little stainless steel drawer, pulled out the bolts and the washers I needed, the lock washers. I put better on the units than they came with since originally they came with carbon steel I like carbon steel too, especially high grade and these were all American parts from back in the 70s so got all three of these for a couple dollars apiece and That includes the wobble mount the hanger mount spring, you know and all that the big bulky spring about the size of your fist and a little longer, you know, about four fingers tall. Anyway, cool, cool, cool piece of equipment. Don't forget guys, this is why you keep all those odd pieces of strapping and scrap metal and chunks of stuff where somebody else has leftovers in a construction project where they're doing something. I don't care if it's heating units or if it's somebody working on a vehicle and they get multi kits where it accommodates more than one car. Save all those little trinket parts that one time that you need that one part pays for saving a little pile that's there and usually you'll use more than that. In this case, I had to have one kind of an L bracket the way they are and then I bent it, making my own brace and brought it around where it needed to be and lo and behold it looks just like the rest of the equipment actually. So pretty cool. Anyways, communications Tuesday, we've got a caller who do we have. We've got two callers here. We've got Randy and we've got Don. We've got another caller in the back of the house. Who do we have there? Don in Seattle. Who was the... I'll tell you what, Shawn jump in there first. Go ahead. We've got Randy. Yesterday I was taking apart a little heater. I couldn't get a thermometer switch for it, so I decided to strap in. When I was taking it apart, I was salvaging some of the switches off of it. One of them had this little bell-shaped weight. so that when the heater tips over, the switch disconnects. So I figured that might be useful for something. And then of course I scrapped my girlfriend's microwave oven before that, and saved her side of that too. I'm actively doing exactly what you're suggesting. Very good. Actually, the bell-shaped model is only odd man out. I don't know. Was that an old piece of equipment or a new piece of equipment? No, no. When it's oil-filled heaters, it stands on its own little four wheels. It has a three-way switch for low, medium, and high. It's got a temperature sensor switch from low to high. On that switch itself, there was a little piece of metal with a rounded weight. It's akin to, but a lot more environmentally safe than a mercury switch. Right, that's what I was expecting with the mercury switch. That's why I was curious. Older ones are like that where they saved down the mercury and newer ones are like that because of the ecology. The reason they got away from the bell, that metal type, was because the mercury switches are much more reliable for a fire safety issue. Just think about it. But mercury is evil, so of course now you can't find mercury except on certain things like the bell and howl thermostat control behind me. I think I have jars full of those because I used to work on those things, remember, Tom? And I have jars and jars and jars of those little vials of mercury that are already encapsulated so I don't have to worry about anything going wrong with them until you need them. There you go. The best source I've found for those is these Walther Mestats for older... Yeah, that's the Honeywell. Yeah, Honeywells and others like that. Yeah. Alright, I'll be quiet. No, no, that's okay. Anything else? Nope. Okay, appreciate that, sir. And again, another microwave into our defense battery. And we've got to put our arms up in there and go, ahh! Like, remember the second Star Wars movie when the Battle of Hoffs, when the first ship is away. Anyway, we've got Michigan Randy with us, I think. Yes, you do. Okay, jump in there and let's see. Go ahead. What have you got for us? Last night I was telling you about the FEMA camp. F-E-M-A. Go ahead. Give it out. We always give any websites out three times. Go ahead and give it out three times for everybody. No, you go to like, FEMA camp and then look around for the coffin conspiracy. So it's cemacamp.com. Oh, it's on YouTube. Okay, hold on. Yeah, YouTube. SEMA camp is the page probably. Probably yes. Okay. And again, just as a refresher, give everybody an overview of what was there. In the background? Yeah. I don't see it. I see. Okay, I'm trying to find this so we can help out with this. It's like three trucks. I think a body bag weighs, if you call it a pound. And I think they weigh a little bit more than that. If you divide that up into three trucks, that's well, there's some pretty sturdy trucks at what off cargo So it'd have to be more than three trucks for a million bags I don't know what a body bag weighs, but I'm pretty certain it weighs more than one pound You actually make really good sleeping bags Most people don't know that Well, I'm not dead yet, but I'm dry But I'm dry and I'm warm yeah Seriously, they're actually good, especially wet weather. I mean, they're wet cold. There are several different models, by the way. There's not just the throwaway, bulky, bulk models, which are actually just a tie up. There's zip models. The original ones that everybody was always so, oh my god, were actually completely water sealable. So you might slosh around on the inside, but the body bag kept everything there. Well, the thing about it is you want to be able to grab the container without it bursting open. Exactly. You don't know what's on the inside. And a lot of ponchos were used in Vietnam, places hot, like from the Middle East. It doesn't take very long for somebody to change in composition once they've passed away. Mark? Go ahead, Mark. Yeah, this is Sean again. I had a quick question on those oil field heaters. If I'm to pull the element out of it and say that what kind of oil is inside those heaters and can it be reused for something else? Oh, are we talking about in the register heater type? The electric, you know, they activate, I don't know, it's a neutral material. It's a neutral oil. I don't know if it'd be used. I actually would be worth saving, but I make sure I mark it well. And again, don't handle it. We obviously don't Handle it with your paws without gloves, you know protection just to be safe in case you're saying what is that noise? I'm here crackling. Yeah Well, that's right is it you is there a keyboard operating there no There we go. No dad that was Sean's phone last few times he's called in he's had that static on his line and it keeps getting worse Oh, okay. That happens on occasion, I've noticed. But we've also had a couple other calls this morning. Unfortunately, the winter seems to be raising havoc with our poorly maintained signal communications grid. Thank God we're building a new one for ourselves. Because it has been progressively every year, we've seen more and more lack of quality background noise, lack of effective signal, the whole nine yards. And we've been spending more every year. Well, we've been paying more every year. I don't think we're getting more every year. Just something to think about. That's different, yeah. As far as the oil goes, any of the oils, now the thermal active element there, I'm pretty sure that I would be careful because I don't believe they're allowed to do the PCB thing anymore, but that doesn't mean a Chinese maid isn't in that category. something to think about because remember for even like your oil capacitors, your big oil industrials, those are a PCB type contaminated oil. But the PCB does its job, what it's supposed to do. Everybody seems to forget there was a reason they were spraying it on the inside of things and spraying it all over stuff, not just simply to seal things up, but it was also used in insulation. which of course is why a lot of it stuck really well and why whatever it was on was you know cross-contaminated so heavily that they decided they couldn't use it anymore. No more, no more. That's why there's a lot of silos standing all over the state of Michigan that are cement silos and they're still standing but they're not used for silos. So something to think about there. So if you are going to work with anything or you're going to be saving or scavenging any kinds of lubricants or oils, precautionary, only because if you're not sure what the material is, it can be salvaged. I would go so far as to say if you have, and I know a lot of people don't like to use them, but gallon glass jug containers are really great. Only because it's least likely that if there's any kind of material that can create any kind of unique organic oxidation that it doesn't eat through your container and create a problem wherever you try to store it. Now everybody would say, well glass market will break. Well, we're not bouncing around using it for a basketball. And if it's properly stored inside another containment vessel, what I like to do with unique stuff is put it into containers that will ensure no compromise with regard to the caustic, the acid, or whatever it could be. And the second step is put it inside a five gallon pail just to be safe. Or a three gallon pail, whatever will fit. And you can even nest that. That's not a bad idea. There's a lot of specialized materials that if you have them you just want to make sure they're safe for two reasons. Number one, no contamination. Number two, they're so valuable that you really don't want to lose them, guys. You really can't afford to. Well, a little bit goes a long way for a lot of processes that we're looking at in the future. So, man, if all else fails, remember when Lou Brick catered things. You know, we used to identify when we're dealing with weapons, it says drops. It doesn't say pour on the oil. And in the future where oil will be a shortage item, I'd highly recommend you follow the instructions. That's just me, but how much oil you got? Think about it. Anyway, Don, I know you've got some, jump in there, anything you particularly wanted to cover, go ahead. Well before we move away from there, you guys, if you get down to the automotive store and you look at that, like a grease gun tube or a putty tube, you know, a putty gun tube of mobile synthetic grease, put one of those in your locker, put one of those in your... Oh, that is non-hydroscopic. It does not absorb water. It's great for protecting a whole lot of things. and a little grease goes a whole long way. A dab of that will basically cover, you know, just the tip of it, you know, the tip of your finger on it. You should be able to cover your slide on your 1911 at least to protect it from the elements. Not to mention grease in other places like the bolt on your bolt guns. You know, people overlook that, Mark. That's a... highly stressed area and I know it's not a weapons Wednesday but you were talking about petroleum products there and I didn't want to get too far away from that too quick. Every once in a while you want to back that bolt out, clean the area in the receiver, clean the end of the bolt because even that grease starts to grab dirt around it but if you don't lubricate that area Eventually, even with a light load, you're kind of handing me the 2x4 so I can beat the bolt open kind of deal, and that's not good. We've addressed that even without overpressure. We've addressed that. So, on to bigger and, well, other things. I can't say necessarily better because, you know, they did pull the plug on that Charon fellow, and it's like, we need to state the funeral, so who do we got laying around? So, well, you know, they had him for eight years. that Ariel Serone to die. He's been in a coma for eight years. You guys have had him on a heart-lung machine. Yeah, but I'm... Ariel who? Exactly. Well, I think the other reason is they want to kind of pull away because the clandestine slash use the third-party steward us, you know, like to go to Syria. They really want to continue to whip it up and reminding everybody about some of the really fun stuff that Ariel Sharon did Might not shall we say do anything other than rub salt in the wound? Like well, what kind of a mass murderer was he since you're always worried about those mass moitos. I am telling you well He was a big-time mass murderer. Don't worry, sir. Yeah a couple of massacres here a couple of massacres there about arm, you know men women and kids Hey, Ariel Sharon ease top of the list for being a mass murderer so just remember he's their guy well for the time being let played a little bit you know what will send the vice president run it along there with nelson mandala yet in the separate get that i mean come on very satoro is busy pillen up you know pacific ocean here for you know how long and the industrial obsolete industrial farm machinery uh... stayed there with okra okra wimpy so I guess they feel they don't really need to do so much more traveling for the moment. Or maybe they don't trust the Israelis so much. You never know. I mean, just because it's kosher doesn't mean it's going to be safe for you to eat. Who was it that when they went there took their own food? Oh yeah, the Russians do. The Russians do that. They're smart. They bring all their own food along. It's like, no, no, no, that's okay. We have our own. They're smart. They do not need food testers. The emperor here does. I know that just came out last year guys, where they finally acknowledged. Remember he was looking longingly. They had the big family get together and it was propaganda for old bad ears. And he's sitting there looking longingly at the, you know, they were offering him like, pick on pie and it was all homemade stuff and oh no, no, no, because their food tester wasn't there. Just like out of the old imperial scam, all the old royalty kids. Well, that guy's okay. He gets 38,000 here to taste the food and the people out there were dead. Hey, we got insurance on him. Well, you remember the Chevrolet brothers? No, you know what that means. The mistake was not putting guards on the people making the food. That's the problem. And again, what you do, see, there's a neat trick to that. If you were smart, unless they wanted to poison everybody in the whole room, about the time they're serving, You get up and you walk around a little bit and after they start throwing plates here and there and maybe they bring your special plate up, you look at somebody else's plate ten tables away as you're going by and go, you know, that really looks good. So don't give a take that. And everybody would be more than happy to hand over their plate to the President and say, the President ate off of my plate. Yeah, by sure. You see how exactly, you see how that works? Oh no, no, the person you pick is random, totally random. If there are two or three hundred people at an event, or 150 people at an event, you look for the one that looks like the goofiest Jewish Israeli you could find, and that's the one whose food you take. What the point is, would he eat the trade? Oh yeah, I'm going to give you mine. It was made by your cooks. What? As he looks at you with his eyes about the size of two pizza pies, and then he turns in the room and looks at the agent in charge of the poisoning and gulps. So you get to find out two things. You know the food's poisoned and then you also know who did it or who ordered it. Well, we know that they've been... Yeah, well if it doesn't happen right away it just takes a little time. That's right, it catches up with them. See, that's one of the things to always watch for, again, pay attention and not even drink the water if at all possible. Everybody else will be coming out of the tap. Yeah, well who's running the plumbing? Exactly. Same effect we got. Yeah, well that's only because they have special urinals on the 10th floor for all the gringos who are staying on the 9th floor. Yeah, their water supply is special. Yeah. See, oh by the way, everybody did notice if you saw those pictures from from the Trenches World Report, the battle down there in Mishkowin, like I said guys, actually somebody did make a comment, my god, it's a double tractor trailer full of of Corona beer and it's on fire. And it's sad because you can see the sidewalls of the truck had already burned down and yep it was full top to bottom you know, loaded to the gills. Even if it didn't burst those piers or skunks. Yeah well maybe towards the middle they'd be okay because you know the body's no one cool thing about these trucks now. they are so thin that there's not that much to burn so maybe the second or third layer in you might get something useful out of it maybe towards the middle maybe the epicenter you have to work your way and open a bottle and go no way and then oh there's one yeah but the next part of the six-pack might still be shot so you have to work your way in a little farther you have to make an effort to get there okay guys I'm going to take off And again give that out a couple times so he knows where to tune in because this Saturday you're gonna be live. That'll be it. And that was Randy. He'll be up this Saturday. Also for everybody out there listening if you want to input, remember the call-in will be as he pointed out. Same number guys. Want to write it down if you'd like to participate. 712-4320900. That's 712-4320900. And the room number is 957-464. Again, 957-464-pound sign. And it's of course, well, you know, we're getting a little hazy out there, Don, so... Oh, this snow here will be your way soon. Oh, you've got it already. Oh, yeah. I figured tonight rather than they said today, and I figured, nah, it's looking to be later in the evening. So we'll get a little bit of it eventually. or some again however much nature decides to deliver but we are in that upswing in the cycle we're into the we're if this is the second week of January guys its winter expect this why should you be surprised after all we just passed the January saw yeah it's it's winter so now we get the next you know bluster of snow however much it is and then we'll get our next melt somewhere around the sixth or through the ninth of February Then we'll get more snow and it'll be declining from that point as far as how much we get each time unless, well, we just decide to get a real, real, you know, classic Michigan winter and we'll be buried up to our eyeballs and when it all melts we'll be complaining about the flooding on the Raisin River and all the other rivers in Michigan. But then we'll find out that the water level in the Great Lakes seems to be back up to normal and beyond. And then the Chinese tankers go downstream. And then all of a sudden we wonder where it went. Where did it all go? It went down faster than expected. It certainly didn't leak out of the St. Lawrence. At least not right away. So... Yeah, Mark, Dan. I was just wondering if I can reserve one of those body bags. You know, it's pretty chilly here in Michigan. Oh, I think we could probably get a case. I can look at them like sleeping, you know... I only need one. The cool thing... That one's good. Well, that and a wool blanket is all you need with one of those because it's 100% heat retention. It's kind of like a big Mickey Mouse body bag, you know, body suit. There we go. Best way to describe it. Good choice though. Got my Mickey Mouse boot shine now. Oh hey, while we're on that subject, I was talking with a friend. He goes out on ice fishes. He fell through the ice here. And just at his shoulders, he was just bouncing his toes off the bottom. And it was a good solid bottom so he could walk along and break some ice instead of get, you know, stuck in muck. But he had his Mickey Mouse boots on. And contrary to popular belief, he was amazed how heavy those boots were in the water immediately. But I know there's air in there and it doesn't seem like, well, it seemed like there'd be little life, life preservers on the ends of your feet. Well, they're air, but it's also felt. Yeah. See, that's the thing. It's, they're heavy. And that's the one thing, you know, well, first of all, depending on the plant, isn't that you're obviously going to break through the ice and head to the bottom, but, you know, you never know. So the balance there is to remember the basic rules, arms out, not tucked in whenever you break through something. Distribute your weight and slap. In other words, what you want to do is hands and then progressively let your hands slide out and that creates like a shock absorber effect, like a spring shock absorber. By the time you get to armpit level, basically you've dissipated a lot of the downward thrust and energy And then you want to try and lay belly forward or belly back, it's up to you, lay back or lay forward to try and bring more of the weight across a horizontal plane because your body's still there even if those shoes aren't. Yes, another point to be made, if you're underwater, I've never been an ice diver you guys, that's like flying without a parachute. Ice diver only has one way out. unless you're like Houdini and can find that little thin little pocket of air between the ice and the water and like he did in the Detroit River there, but those are few and far between. Don't count on it to save your life. That's why I've never been an ice diver, nor do I think I will ever go in a cave. But I'm told by another friend who fell through ice and was completely underwater that it's immediately like they're in a fire, water so cold, but he looked up and saw a whole bunch of bright in this little black dot. And the black dot was the hole he fell through. So when you're underwater, the way the light moves, I never knew this before. But the way the light works on the surface of the ice and the surface of the hole that's just been created, that's what you're looking at, you guys. You're going to see if this happens to you. You're underwater. You're looking at a big, bright field, like the sky bright. And that little dot of dark is the hole that you came through. Contrary to what you would think, you'd think that the ice would be dark and the hole would be light because there's no ice there. But that's what I'm told. It doesn't sound like fun, but hey, if you know what to expect, you might know how to get out. If you fall completely through and you look up and you think, I don't see a hole, and man, that just looks like there must be a bunch of leaves there, or that's the shadow of some people standing there, that's where you go. If you shed those Mickey Mouse boots, and if you have to, get that coat off, because hey, I'm told the rest of your clothes, if you can successfully extract yourself from the water and you have to, you know, your car is 100 or 300 yards away, many times before you get to your car, your clothes will be frozen except for exactly at the joints because you'll be breaking that ice and eventually you'll tear your clothes apart because of the ice breaking and freezing and breaking and freezing. But once your clothes are frozen, you get a little warmer, I'm told. That from a number of people. Because, well, you don't have that wetness laying on you, but many times your clothes freeze to you. This is another reason to keep moving. Move to the car, the house, to the fire. Move anything, any place to get you out of the wind, in particular any place to get you out of the wind for change clothes, okay? You guys falling through the ice, I fell through the ice when I was a young, when I was like 15. You know, still a big puppy. up to just above my knees and had either a mile and a half to walk on land or about three and a half miles to skate gated a lot faster than walking but then I still had about a half mile to walk so we chose to and my shoes were when I got back to my house it's hard to walk in frozen shoes believe me take my word I yield and I think we do we have colors colors have been there star six you want to mute yourself Just to be safe because we've had a lot of either that we've just had problems with Phones around the country guys. Well, it sounds like I might be the first one in here We go PK jump in there. Go ahead. Okay Mark you've already heard this one, but I wanted to call in while Don was on air Hey, Don you got a pencil if you don't grab one right now, please. Okay Okay, you're familiar with the CR123 battery We use that in a lot of pieces of night vision. Yeah, it's used in a lot of night vision and the illuminators. Even some of the night vision that uses AA's as a fallback, the illuminator that comes with it uses a CR123. So that's a high value item. Those things are not cheap. I'm not sure what the regular cost of those is. Do you know off the top of your head? You'll give three, sometimes four dollars. Or if you buy them in a two-pack, you might give a little bit less. right that that's consistent with my recollection uh... one of the virtues of the one to three the lithium batteries these are primary self just so that everybody's on the same page here uh... that's there they're like alkalins in that you don't want send and you're supposed to throw them away or whatever i wouldn't i would say that lithium is a useful element of there's gotta be used for it i would not throw away when they're expanded but there are one years battery But, the thing that's more about is that... Oh, you know what you're doing is that you fill the void in your hollow points with the lithium. Or something, yeah, that's a possibility. At any rate, one of the neat things about them is they have an insanely long shelf life. Yes. They are officially a 10-year shelf life. The stamped date is 10 years after manufacture. So they can sit on the shelf for quite a while and like everything else, they don't hit the shelf life and suddenly just turn into dust. But they start to lose effectiveness noticeably after that threshold. Well, one of the electronic surplus places that I check on a regular basis just got in a load of these 1, 2, 3 batteries. And they are dated 2020 expiration, that's six years out. which means that the manufacturer considered these to be old stock they've been on the shelf for four years but they have another six years to go before they even hit the official expiration date which means that well they may consider them old stock that's awfully useful stuff regardless okay uh... this vendor is called bg micro that's bravo gulf micro dot com They aren't saying how many they have, which usually means they've got a lot. When they get down to 50 or 60 or something, their website starts showing inventory on hand. They probably have a bushel of these things. They are offering these 2020 expiration CR123A batteries for $0.99 a piece, but $10 for $7.50. Now, that in my book is an extreme bargain, especially since they've got another six years officially, and considerably more than that left in them. These are the ones that you use to train next week, next month, next year. And if you come across the ones that are ten years out on the expiration, put those in and cycle those until, well, you can't get them anymore. Well, I can go on with that. But, you know, you're paying three times as much for an extra four instead of six years, you know. That strikes me as an extreme kink in the pricing curve. And I like kinks in the pricing curve. That's where I like to live. That's bravo-golf-micro.com. uh... you or your customers or people you know what not might like to know about that uh... clean these guys out there yeah uh... there ninety nine cents apiece or ten of them for seven dollars fifty cents basically in out ten or more though fell on a seventy five cents apiece or if you ordered a dozen yeah i'm sure that they'd they'd truck them up at seventy five cents a piece of art nine dollars plus shipping up Yeah, given the shipping, I'd say order 30 or 50 or 100 or whatever your wallet will tolerate. Hey, at that rate, you can afford even just a ... in 12 or 15 years just to put them in the food gas. Well, yeah. Have them on hand as long as you need them and then, yeah, whenever they, if they for some reason go bad, find another application for them. Exactly. But they're... I think you're trying to waste full, they use them as 12 gauge, whatever they might fit. Oh, that's better. Yeah, they're gonna be some better use for that, but you know, you can always find some use. It's like the guy in the boat when they're going to get the shark, only you're saying, just wait a little bit, Dr. X-rays him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, the interesting thing about this, again, I'm looking at these right here. It's CR123A Battery by Panasonic, 10 for $750. Like you said, they're not giving an inventory, and they usually do on all of the other items. They've got a pile of them, guys. Well, they give an inventory when they're down in the... I see inventories on things in the 50 to 60 range. Yeah. So they're probably a hundred. So they're probably a hundred. They start listing the inventory count. And if you're listening right now and you double check your equipment, in fact, not just your night vision, A lot of these new little handheld radios, guys, I've got four different versions sitting here, and at least one of them takes this battery that I know of. They have other applications to include cameras. So some of you might have camera technology out there that needs this battery. Right, they weren't invented specifically for night vision. They were adopted by the night vision guys because they like the power density and the... Availability. Yeah, and I don't think they leak. They seem to drive everything in the camera world right now from, you know, entry level, there's no such thing. Well, from entry level 35 millimeters on up to the big nicons and such. So in big big money cannons, the industry has made a commitment to them that the night vision industry saw. I've said it like this, people say, well, what do you think about that battery? Well, as long as we are civil, you'll be able to get that battery on any pharmacy shelf. And as you point out, BK, it has a tremendous lifetime. but it will be a better use of them and but we might need one in a pinch but right but it is a lithium base and we might want to talk about how to protect if i want to store them and i live in the well if i live in my mother-in-law's basement on the very edge of of a big city in well i i've got double walls and everything and i'm ready for the blast but i think i can make it out if they don't got three of them you kind of want to store lithium batteries a particular way don't you I don't have data on that myself. I think the lithium ion are the same problem. They had an issue with regard to discharging. Actually what it is, is some kind of energy pulse with the EMP that was noted when they were doing testing in the late 60s. Actually the last of the, no it had to be the early 60s, because it was the last of the nuclear above ground testing that was done out in the Pacific. Remember they were testing more and more of the cutting edge technology. Back in the day, lithium batteries were like high science and nothing else. But they wanted to check if they were testing. I assume, we never get a confirmation on that, but I would assume that for probably special nuclear delivery application back in the day, these were probably the choice or one of the several choices that they went within the industry. Eventually it bled out into us. Well, given the shelf life, it would be very attractive for civil defense type things because if for no other reason than they don't have to rotate it as frequently. Right. cage a farrington or a day thirty-day day katie katie katie and all you have to do to make a fair day cage is if you had a bunch of these things and if you decided or new that there was a problem with induced voltage from an empty uh... you you shovel a bunch of these guys into a paper bag and and roll it up and uh... wrapped that paper bag in aluminum foil and you've got a fair day cake All you need is complete enclosure by a conductive layer and aluminum foil is good enough. You could use an ammo can. There's rubber insulation between the lid and the body which is maybe less than ideal but given the overlap of the flange I don't think that would be a major problem. An ammo can would probably work fine too. All you really need to do is wrap these guys in some sort of insulation, a paper bag, a brown lunch bag would do just fine, and then wrap that up in an aluminum foil and you're all set. You were the first person to make me aware of a particular formula for aircraft. If you're close enough, if the airframe still survives, EMP really isn't as mean and vicious as a lot of people think, but there are particular things like we had to address the lithium battery. Isn't there a formula for wiring in a device? EMP calculations are hideously complex. Even the physicists that have worked on it kind of gives them headaches and so on. But what they did is they came up with a pragmatic formula for use by the aircraft industry. And what they said was that, okay, if the aircraft is far enough from a blast that it's not being ripped apart mechanically, then if you design your electronics with the assumption that every linear foot of wiring will pick up eight volts, then you should be okay. That is, the aircraft should not be knocked out of the air by the EMP itself. So, their design standard was that every foot of linear conductor, and that includes aircraft skin, can pick up 8 volts from the pulse. Therefore, if you have a 10-foot wire, you'd better design your electronics to withstand an 80-volt pulse, that sort of thing. The hazard with the MP, there's a certain amount of mysticism about it. People think that all electronics are just going to magically nullify themselves. That's not true. The point is that wiring and exposed conductors and so on might pick up a voltage and some things will be killed by that and some won't. The big hazard is that you've got some really long wires around your house. You've got the electrical wiring in the house and you've got telephone and maybe cable and things of that sort. If you think that, well, if it's 100 feet from your house to the telephone pole where there's an isolation transformer, well, if that picks up 800 volt pulse in that leg, then that's enough to fry anything connected to that wire. You don't want to be standing under that transformer. well the idea that they had there's that because the transformers connected to an awful lot of run of of you know power conductor but uh... if it i select you from the rest of the grid you're still picking up the eight-hour vaults of your last hundred feet a lot of times when they go back to you know i think you know big spike from you know uh... a mile of uh... power line you know from you to the substation So, the things that are connected to the phone wires and the power lines and so on are the ones that are likely to get hit, which is an enormous amount of stuff in your house. But the things that are freestandering are at much lower risk. Now, your radios are designed to pick up, you know, microvolts because a radio signal just doesn't generate very much voltage, and that's what your radio receiver does. It amplifies an incredibly tiny voltage. to get your signal. So if you've got a 6-inch antenna and that's picking up a 4-volt spike and your radio front end is designed to deal with nano volts or micro volts, then that could be a problem. So you'd want to have your radios offline and shielded. But probably the bigger risk to them is the power cord running into the wall, because that could get a few thousand, and that would fry it from the other end. I hope you guys were paying attention, not to run you down or nothing. But there was, you know, EMP, we think, oh, bomb goes off in California, you know, everything's going to shut off in Massachusetts. Well, there's not only a radio issue. Well, some of it will be a very large footprint because EMP mainly happens. or the model for it is that it's induced when a flash hits the atmosphere from outside. That's where we're going next. That's the biggest footprint area. And that could cover half of the U.S. in one whack. It's dissipated. It's spread out. As the thing spreads out, then the energy per square foot decreases. But the hazard is really the long wire. It's not so much. the disconnected devices uh... your battery driven uh... l c d alarm clock is probably gonna write it out just fine because uh... it's not connected to the house wiring but anything connected to house wiring is at risk anything connected to your cable or your telephone wires or whatnot are at risk and uh... there are devices that have been built to quash They are basically just super duper big lightning arresters that are designed to go short circuit and damp an incoming voltage spike. But even the computer manufacturers will tell you to unplug your computer during the lightning storm even if you have the circuit protectors. Well, the household units are not designed for that magnitude of spike. We could construct units that would probably work. It's kind of hard to field test them. I'm not going to be sure you designed it for you. If you want to fly a kite, yeah. Hey Mark. We have another caller. Go ahead, caller. What do you got? Hey, it's JC from PA. You were talking about 1.3 batteries. Were you guys aware that there are rechargables now? Yes. There are rechargables intended to substitute for those. Voltage rating. Yeah, the voltages are a little bit different, but they are mechanically designed to be dropping replacements. Right, the only ones I've used was ones from Tenergie, it's basically the word energy. They seem to work fine. Also, as far as a Faraday cage, you were mentioning an ammo can. Basically what we've done was take an ammo can, line it with corrugated cardboard, and then instead of taking the gasket off the top because that does help seal air and everything out of it, we basically placed a layer of either copper sheeting or aluminum foil sheeting and then close it down tight so it makes a complete circuit. Right, I'd just throw a piece of heavy duty aluminum foil over the top onto it if I were in a hurry and wanted to make a Faraday cage in that fashion. If I wanted to be really, really sure, I'd just make the Faraday cage and drop it into the ammo can for mechanical protection. The aluminum foil around your contents would serve even if the ammo can were made out of cardboard. I also saw field trash cans being used. They covered that on the inside to make it one complete straw, but they were actually testing that with an EMP test that was at this past year. That and the ammo can both did very well. They also, instead of aluminum foil, around the top of the ammo can, that worked out well also. As a matter of fact, I think that fooling around and worrying about the rivets and so on, if you've got one of the metal cans that got exposed metal, it's not painted. As long as it isn't one of those ones with the holes stamped all around to keep things from rotting, just pressing the lid down is probably just fine. the dmp reduction uh... in peace or reduction that that would do it didn't make a difference but like you said you know especially if it's the last last ditch emergency you know there's a lot of ways to scan that cat right uh... throw blanket into that trash can that the inflate the content from the can throw and shovel in all of your uh... you know radios and whatnot and flam the lid and and get two seconds later the impulse of and people that you're probably okay One of the things good to do also for the radios is to keep the original packaging because that will keep it from having any, if you put in an ammo can or whatever, there's no way that it's probably going to be close to the edge of that Faraday cage. Well, that's insulation. Of course, if you've got a blister pack, that adds a lot to the bulk, but, you know, yeah. Right. All right, I'm out. Thank you, sir. And we are almost to the top. Don, before we go any further, your number for night vision? Hey, that number's 2317968458. Again, 317968458. Goggles or gun sights, green screens or thermal, give me a call. You call that guy with the 800 number and then call me. Probably won't call him back. My number is 2317968458. Thank you. And if you're not listening to the program or you don't act fast enough to get the 75 cent batteries, I don't know, maybe Don will sell you a buck and a quarter six year batteries. That's not a bad investment at all, you guys. Those 123 batteries for what? Two, four, six bits? A few quarters to the paper boy or to the battery guy, isn't it? Yes, there are some other interesting batteries there on that site in more limited quantity, but that's the one that really jumps out as being particularly suitable for us right now. Thank you very much. And many, many other items, but the battery issue for a lot of people, we're especially looking at the idea that we can keep the equipment running. For 75 cents a unit you can have a pocket full of them guys. Oh yeah. That's the thing for you know seven dollars and fifty cents for ten and the more you buy the happier I think you'll be in the long run because if you are going to be using dollars invested in night vision what's seven fifty for batteries to keep it running? Exactly. Yeah. Plus again there's other technology supporting it there's other pieces of equipment even the little lasers the stronger heavier lasers some of those use this battery. So, I'm just chocking everybody's memory because they're thinking, well, I don't have that piece of night vision. And then all of a sudden you think for me to go, oh, but wait a minute, that ultra heavy flash unit, yeah, it takes that battery. You see, as you go through the shopping mentally about what you got in consumables. And even if you don't have a need for those, some friendly may. Well, you also trade. Look, I have a battery for you. How many bullets you trade? That's what the barter system is for in the field too. Don't forget that. It is true. It works that way. You carried it, somebody else didn't bring it. I used to do that with... You know guys, I didn't eat, carry a whole lot when I went in the field, but I took all the sea rations that I could get for obvious reasons that were issued. I didn't smoke. Do you know what a small pack of Marlboro's or even Benson and Hedges are worth after about three days with rain? Yeah, I think they had what, 10 packs or something in the sea rats? Oh, one pack for each C-ration. No, but I think they had half-sized packs or something. Oh yeah, there's five little cigarettes. Five? Okay. Yeah, they were cool. Depending on the year, some of the last ones were an extra-wide pack before they discontinued the cigarettes, these last ones I saw. And the Benson and Hedgids had six. But five was the typical. And again, they're like a quarter of a pack of cigarettes. That's why when you watch a lot of this stuff I was watching something the other day and they were trying to look, you know, Star Wars lived in. There's a few things that aren't going to be on your helmet band, guys. Number one, nobody put a Hershey bar on their helmet band in Vietnam. Okay. They end up putting a Hershey bar in their helmet. A Hershey squeeze maybe, a squish, but half would be dripping down the side of the helmet and getting into your shirt. The other half would be... flopped over and pasted the helmet guys you ever thought about that the Hershey bars are Hershey bars they didn't do anything special to Hershey bars those aren't army chocolate bars like the stuff that came in your sea ration box you know your sea ration box but you know in the can guys those were hockey pucks you'd be a hundred and sixty degree weather and they didn't melt Okay, they just sat there and stared at you. Which put a wig in them in the light of your mouth. I always wanted to know what they were made out of. Like I said, I like to see the recipe. Real chocolate, guys. Yeah. Anyway, we're going to break. We are at the top. Don, God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. And Don, you gotta take off? I gotta go, man. Okay, well, beat me. Hey, everybody else, are you still there? You stick around? And I'm not kidding. 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