December 19, 2013
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59m
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Mark Koernke discussed firearms and tactical equipment deals available before Christmas, including recommendations for AK-223 rifles, combat gear, and ammunition from various online retailers. He engaged with callers about military training versus hunting skills, emphasizing the importance of tactical deployment, team coordination, and proper spacing in combat situations. Koernke critiqued both Hollywood depictions of warfare and undisciplined militia tactics, drawing historical parallels to Lexington and Concord to illustrate how better organization could improve battlefield effectiveness. He also addressed propaganda tactics, media manipulation, and what he characterized as deliberate psychological conditioning to demoralize resistance.
- ak-223 rifle
- tactical training
- militia coordination
- combat spacing
- preparedness
- firearms sales
- patriot dawn
- max velocity
- battlefield tactics
- second amendment
- keepshooting.com
- jgsales.com
- texas ak designs
- lexington and concord
- propaganda
- military discipline
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Anyway, then turning back to the east, we sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi land and the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge, where the restaurant crew is Grandma Teams, OK Teams, and the mob bell, Grandma Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for the like work a million Peddico junctions, the ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. I'll tell you what, looking around, I still like it. I'm not harping on this. I was just doing it again. If we see anything that's really useful with the Christmas sales, we just jump on it. But there have been no real Christmas sales out there in the firearms and ammunition area, guys. A few things have been brought down a little bit in price. There were a few deals a few days ago. I think what's interesting is anybody who had any kind of sales, they were set upon. I think they realized that too. Anything that they offered was gone not within days or took a day to sell. It took hours or minutes to sell. In some cases, they could count it minutes. In other cases, more few hours. From that point forward, I've noticed that the Sales idea has kind of disappeared. I assume that perhaps the only thing that might be taking the considerations they figure they'll make regular sales and then offer something after Christmas. That's possible. So we'll see what happens there. But for all of you out there, just a reminder and a warning that Whatever you can find, you can find and the people who are selling it just figure they don't have to worry. The stuff, the market is absorbing it no matter what and I think that's why things are going the way they are. There are a couple of decent buys that I have recommended before and I will recommend again with regard to the material that's just in their regular clearance or supply section, KeepShooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keepshooting.com, www.keep shooting s-h-o-o-t-i-n-g dot com. The one thing you might still, like I said, you've got time to get it on the computer, maybe they'll get it out tomorrow depending on how busy they are. Super sale deals. Now they do have a bunch of other stuff that they're offering. I've noticed they've got German Kevlar helmets, particularly I don't know what the sale prices, but they've got them for sale. I don't know if they're on sale, can't tell you for sure about that. But right now they have in the Superdeals section, if we go there, they have several items that are definitely worthwhile, but the one that jumps out is the French Army It's not really a grenade bandolier. It's been put together to be one. But what it is is seven double pocket pouches in woodland camouflage in the CCE French woodland, which is a copy of the American woodland. In addition to that, a German Bundeswehr heavy service belt. This is a really thick gauge, it stands on its own. You stand it sideways, the belt doesn't fall over. It's heavy. Very well made. It will take web gear, which is why they did this with this particular belt, because there's a bunch of these German belts available cheap right now, but cheap by wholesale standards, by jobber standards. So, you get a decent utility combat belt, a German combat belt, with a solid face buckler in the front. And you get seven two pocket CCE Woodland Camo grenade pouches, supposed to be like new or new. The total cost is $5. So, each little set of pouches is less than a dollar. You still get the belt thrown in. How does that sound? Or divide all 8 items up by 5 dollars and you figure it out. You're basically getting each item for pennies, which is pretty cool. This is a very good buy. You can sort these things out. They're not hooked up to the belt. They're just slid on the belt. You can disassemble it, take the belt, use it for something else. Take the pouches and apply them to your 510 program or apply them to equipment or web gear you're already using, especially if you're using a lot of the Woodland stuff right now. A lot of people are. This gives you a bit of an advantage and you've got another piece of decent equipment that kind of fits a lot of different niches, a utility pouch, grenade pouches, of course what they were built for, but they can be used for other things. So again, go to KeepShooting.com, KeepShooting.com. Then when you get there, go to SuperSailDeals. It's right in the middle of the page. Easy to spot. And scroll down to the second line, and that's where you'll find those French CCE Woodland Camo pouches. It's seven double pocket pouches and the belt for $5. You can't beat it for what it is. And it's in the second tier. It's the second from the left hand side. There are other items on the page to take a look at. There's an excellent long great Italian mountain coat that's down at the bottom of the page, right hand side. Of course the German rubber boots are a good price and those are in between size 8 and size 10 in size. So there's an option there. There's another solution. Purely matter again, what do you need and how much of it do you need? Pick up what you need there and operate accordingly. If you do it now, like I said, today is the 19th, 20th, you still got the weekend and Friday the weekend and Monday and Tuesday for mail service. So it might get there again before Christmas, which would be cool if you're looking for Christmas items. Still, if it's close to you, where cankeepshooting.com, I don't know what their location is. Forgive me, I don't have their address right here in front of me. But if they're close enough to you, you drive over and pick the stuff up. They're not a big chain store, a box store, anything. Keepshooting.com, again, they've been in business for 10 years, celebrating our 10th year of operation. That's not us, that's them. We've been doing this a lot longer than they have. Also, the French 3-Grenade Pocket Pouch, which is a copy of our Airborne pistol belt hanger pouch that actually ties off to the leg. You'll see these in a lot of the images of the Airborne for Normandy. They stack the grenades top to bottom, three grenades, one on top of the other, a double dot keeper, one on each side. There are a few other items there, but take a look. Pennies on the dollar especially take advantage of it. We cleaned out the 99 cent double mag pouches from Centerfire in a short period of time. I remember this last weekend. Actually it's been two weekends ago now. Everybody that took advantage of it. We got 20 of them. I just couldn't pass them up. I had to scrounge around a little bit to make sure we could cover it. We took care of that and got the pouches. So we're satisfied. For 99 cents a piece, A couple people who didn't have mag pouches for their concealed carry guns or at least for their primary hand cannons, now they got a mag pouch for a couple of mags. So that worked out just fine. Especially since some of them were family members. That needed them because they got certain things that they're taken care of. Again, if you do have anything like that that jumps off the wall at you, share it in the chatroom. I haven't seen anything. There's nobody going, hey, Christmas sale or super Christmas sale. The other thing that I've noticed is missing from the web pages. You'll notice our motif for Liberty Tree Radio has changed to the holiday season. It's another thing that's also missing from the different websites. That's another thing I would point out. It's something that jumped out at me. There isn't any Christmas theme or anything like that going on with it where there was last year. So, that's a big question marker with regard to what I'm seeing too. Now, I haven't looked at Classic Arms, classicfirearms.com and Classic Firearms. Let's go to www.classic.com. Go ahead, call or jump in there. Meat Eater, real quick. I wanted to point out at sale, Christmas sale, for those people that are looking for a good rifle. I think an excellent deal is, and they also, they have a nice little Christmas banner, is JNGsales.com. They have a Sega AK-223 20 inch barrel, 549. I think this is one heck of a deal, because you can, I wouldn't buy a lot of their magazines. which they do have cap code $20 magazines. But if you go and contact the Texas company, the Texas specialty, you can buy a magazine adapter that will allow you to use AR-15 magazines in the Sega 223. So for a little over $600, because the adapter is going to cost you, I think, $60 or $80 depending on if they got a sale or not. So a little over $600 of a real battle rifle. I can't say enough good things about it. Again, I love the SEGA rifles. Having it in the .223 has always been a problem in the past because of the magazine issues. Not the feeding issues, but the availability. Now, with the Texas specialty, they provide that magazine insert that allows you to use an AR-15 magazine. You really have the best of both worlds. You'll have the availability of the 223, use the AR-15 mags, and you have an AK system. I get for the price $549. It's really a great deal. If you have an extra couple of dollars, and that's you need a rifle, I'd highly recommend it. 100% Russian weapon guys built where they were supposed to be built and it's an AKAK. You just got a different stock on it and they'll see stock typically. This has the regular pistol grip stock at a heart. That's the one that has been modified. Well, it's been switched out is what they did. You're going to recognize if you get it in the box or if you see it, but it's again in a 223 configuration. TexasAKDesigns.com is where you want to go. They do work. Everybody that's using them here is happy with them. But we would recommend, I know they talk about modifying or cleaning up. Well, you should clean up the AK anyway. There's some work that can be done to dress up your AK. That basically used to be armorers work in the Russian army. And the Russians, of course, just crank them out as is. And if there's some crude spots they don't care, it's not an issue for them. And the weapons work. It's just that if you want to really do something interesting, there are several good videos on tuning up your AK. There's all things that you can do, but you follow the instructions. Well, with the Texas AK designs, they mention that you can do some trimming internally on the weapon. If it's not part of that tune up, then my recommendation is that you work to take the material difference off of the adapter. The adapter only costs $65-$70. The rifle, if you decide that you don't know what you're doing, that would create other issues for you. See how that works, guys? I don't see it being a big problem because it's common sense. All you have to do is some physical math with regard to lapping and how you're going to carefully. You don't grind on anything. It's called lapping. It's where you take and do one or two strokes. and you test to fit. If it's still not quite right, one or two strokes, test to fit. But you don't just grind away like you see in movies where the guy's taking sparks or flying and metal is disappearing, you can't glue it back on. Not without special technology, so to speak, and welding never does seem right. So again, common sense, take your time, be patient. And this is a good combination. The AK and 223, The Chinese started to bring them in, and meat eater, and what happened is, as soon as they started bringing those in, that's when they started ratcheting back on the AKs. Because that 223AK with the mags were China cheap, because they were bringing them in in force, and that was the best of two worlds, an AK action with cheap US government ammo. Yeah, that would work. And so that was where they got to the high tide. When they started bringing those into service, it's the same thing that happened with the Daewoo rifle. They didn't care if you brought in AKs all day, but the Daewoo rifle, US parts internally, US magazines, standard .223 caliber, and it worked. And it has an AK gas system. So, oh yeah, they had to cut that one off. And remember, Korea's a friend. And there was nothing unique or strange about the rifle. It was comparable to the Air 15, but it was a superior design in several ways, which is why they knocked it out. What the Koreans did is they took the best of both guns, the AK and the AR, and truly integrated into a real third design. Which is neat. And it's a .223, and again, but it does take Air 15 mags. Anything else? Jump in there, please. No, that's it. I just saw that. People always ask me what is the best rifle you can get and it's a personal choice, but this would be my number one pick if I had to pick one gun. It's certainly a great gun to start and I think very reasonable price. Again, make sure you get the adapter and people will be really amazed. When you're at the range, you're like, oh! What is that? I mean, and this has got the 20 inch barrel and it's got the nice, you know, you can put a nice scope on it. You buy the, you know, you put a night vision scope on it and put a regular scope on it because it's got the nice slide scope, AKA Mount On Rail system too. So it's a good system. I would highly recommend it. Again, pay attention, also check the sites for closeouts and clearances. You won't find much at JG Sales that's closeout and clearance, guys, but they do have Christmas specials listed there on the page, so take the time to check that and see what they have. That's definitely worth looking into. There are a few little mag pouches, and they have a Marpat radio, digital camouflage radio pouch for $3. $2.00 and some odd cents but it comes to about $3.00. So that's definitely worth checking out too and if you've got the Marpat gear and you don't have the radio bag, the radio bag is there for $3.00 and it's probably the best price in the country for those right there right now. So good choice. JGSales.com, JGSales.com, JGSales.com. Thank you, Meat Eater. Hey, Lord. Go ahead and call or jump in there. I was curious when you were talking about training, have you read Patriot Door? I read part of it. I haven't actually gone through it all the way yet. I got a copy and I started it, I think I got through the first couple chapters. Go ahead. What I wanted to bring up was I do the same thing that Max Velocity does as far as the training aspect. I've actually told prospective students before they come to my patrolling classes to read Patriot Dawn because of the fact that way they'll have scenario-based quests trying to come up with something that gives you a lot of insight. And it's not an FM. I had noticed some things on where they were talking about being hunters and what I can't do certain things. And I know that some people somewhat kicked off because of Max's response to them, but I don't think they were taking it in context. I responded that, you know, where he's coming from and I know, you know, we all know guys that hunt, especially deer hunters, yeah, they can take that shot, they go out, they walk through the woods and everything, but the difference between being a hunter and sitting in a tree stand or walking through the tree, understanding the concepts of offense and defense, and you know, defensive and not being a noisy version of suicide are two different things. I get this all the time, you know, and trying to, in comparison being a deer hunter, being a light-hearted world of difference that most people don't understand. I was curious if you could maybe talk about that a little bit. And I'm not trying to say if you're a hunter, you're going to die. At the same time, with my students, a hunter is... And I was wondering if you could maybe talk about that a little bit. And you know, people can maybe have a better understanding of where he's coming from. Because he was rather abrupt. And I understand where he's come to because it gets kind of old when guys, 60s now, are saying, well, I'm too old to take training or I don't have the money, but yet where have you been for the last 20 years, dude? Have you been spending your money going to hell and the excuses I'm too old? It's kind of a lame experience. Right. Well, I agree with that. Number one, everybody and anybody that's out there can participate. If you were a If you are an individual who is managing your manpower and you have to take everybody into the field and you will take everybody into the field that you have got, you would also manage those personnel accordingly. My argument is that I understand the limitations of the different bodies I have. In many cases, even walking wounded are going to end up being forced to participate. This is something that everybody needs to keep in mind because the battlefield is in your backyard. Like he said in the Patriot, this war will be fought in our own piece of real estate, guys. This is going to be fought in our homes or in our backyard, literally, which is the other thing everybody is... On the one thing, everybody's terrified because they all know history, or at least some of them do. Then I'll tell you all about how they, oh I can't do because of whatever supposed physical limitation based upon how they were conditioned through the public fool system and because of government subsidies and benefits. Being disabled gets you money from the government so you have to act the part of the lame duck. That lame duckism kind of rolls over into everything that you do even though you're not limited. A lot of people, what few limitations they have, It doesn't put them out of the game. In fact, if they argue that they're that whiz-bang super hunter that can do that, you know, 500 yard shot and the mule deer rolls over twice and, you know, throws one paw into the air and the other paw in the other direction like in platoon and he dies nobly in front of you but gasping because of your awe-inspiring single shot that was, you know, through 55 trees at 500 yards and, you know, you happen to see just the side panel of that deer and you're so, well, if you're that good, then don't worry, your father out and they can run to catch you. So the guys... I get that a lot. That particular scenario that, well, you know, I made a 360 yard shot on a groundhog. Well, that's great, dude. That's a great place to start. Well, I agree that that can be done, but my problem is that now good. We're going to take and deploy you since you're going to say that I'm 60 years old. Here's the problem. We've got a whole bunch of people that have come out of the military who were told by the government, by the people who were processing them out, you need to be disabled because you'll get more money from the government. And they're not disabled. I'm sorry. I know this, Cam. I've seen it before. It's part of the whole get money from the Fed because they were coached to do it by the little piece of trash communist who didn't tell them about, well if you say that you're disabled, you have post-traumatic stress disorder. That's the favorite one. That's no different. I am sorry. That is no different from the whole BS going on with the Ritalin scam in school. The kids don't need the ritalin, they don't need the dope, but what happens is, of course, it's being pushed from that direction. A lot of people are being told, well, you know, and you've got this little panty-waist female. She's a leftist who just came out of college. She knows exactly what's going on and how you're going to get screwed. You know, if I were you, I would be disabled. You know, you've got this injury. You got tagged while you were over there, but again, you're pretty well healed up on that. and it wasn't really a biggie anyway by what you're saying but what we're going to tell everybody you're really stressed out because of that and you have a mental disorder you're just mentally disabled and you'll get more money you'll get a mark and so what happens hold on I know it's Henry there but just for a minute before what happens is those people then allow the government to put a tag on them. Well, they also kind of hang on to that tag and have watched this. I watched this with the Vietnam War. I watched this with Desert Dust One and Desert Dust One is 20 years ago, guys. And again, now we have the next wave and everybody's talking and lamenting about how they're coming to everybody's house for the guns. But you know what? Part of it, you were talked in by this pantywaster by somebody who was really not worried about your future. to go along and get into a contract you shouldn't have gotten into in the first place. So you're capable of fighting and you know you are. It's one of those other ways where people find some kind of edge excuse to not get involved. You know, to not, I'm not going to be able to do it. Oh, I'm just so incapacitated. Oh, pass me some more Cheetos and what's the big game on? Well, isn't the Super Bowl coming up soon? Oh, that's really important. It's in my universe. See, that stuff to me is shut off for all of my life anyway. I mean, there's stuff I think is fun, but other than the real world is what I focus more on. I think that the football stuff and the stuff like that has been designed obviously to give them a way to go off into fantasy toilet zone land and not deal with reality. Well, and that's exactly why people like Max and I, I mean, we're pissed off because we have people, you know, I understand, you know, times are tough. I do. I understand that. You know, it's, it's, uh, you know, my, the, my clientele, my, my, uh, customer base is way down because of the economy, not because people don't want the training. And I, I always try and, and, you know, give people breaks and stuff on, on costs. The reason we're pissed off is. We keep hearing these excuses and some of them may be very valid. But the other side of that coin is where were you in the last 28 years? It's just ridiculous. I was right here fighting is where I was. Do I get to say something here? Mark, I would strongly suggest that before you take up Max's argument that you go over to from the trenches and read off his last article and see what you're getting in the middle of. Oh, I know exactly what he said in his last article. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the pissing contest on the comment section. He is going to drive people away from this cause. That's why we dropped him. If they're going to have you take up the argument, Mark, I would strongly suggest that you go and see what you're arguing about and I'll back out. from and I understand that yes, you know, people like what is being said is abrupt. There's plenty of plenty of us out there that are saying things now that are abrupt because that is the only way to get through to certain certain types of people. I mean, you know that as well as I do. You can't sit there and coddle them and say, oh, well, because you're a deer hunter, you'll come out on the other side. Fine. It's like I said, great place to stop. But you need the putting the effort into. I don't tell people they have to, you know, come take my class. able to get squared away, but I thought I steer them in a direction. I don't charge them to give them tips and hints on where they might go to find out information. I don't do that at all. But at the same time, tell them, hey, the manual and actual training are two different animals. They can bait each other. You cannot get through to the other side, but it's because actual training can put the things you read about into a practical application and make it make sense. Well, one of the things that I've, what I'm emphasizing, where I'm coming from, I know for Henry understands what I was saying, the whole thing about this, and I've seen this, is if we aren't working as a team, and that's where we have the opportunity to do that now, I've watched this over and over again where it's like you've got to come together, take the time, understand how to integrate, and work as a team. The learning curve process on the battlefield is a very different world, especially where you have the disadvantage of not having brought people to the same level or onto the same training table. at the same platform. You've got a whole bunch of different people and unless you're willing to, you know, to, to, if you have the experience of managing a number of people in a diverse situation like that, then you can handle it, but it's still an uphill battle for the people who are trying to fight the thing and manage the thing. The argument that we are all going to be the anarchist warriors where everybody is going to be an army of one, blah, blah, blah, running around in circles, it works in the response phase. If you know that a battle has been joined and you have a neighbor that says they are going for the guns in the next neighborhood and a cascading battle develops, that is going to happen. But after that, just like we saw with Lexington and Concord, where again they went out to go after the stuff when they came back, everybody was shooting at them and everybody did a good job of putting bullets down range, but with a little more organization that had been even farther ahead and the British forces would have never gotten back to Boston so they wouldn't have had to fight them at say Bunker Hill. They would wipe them out. With better organization, two things would have happened. Half the British force on the way back wanted to surrender. But as was pointed out, they had nobody to surrender to. Now then everybody would say, well that's good because we wanted to kill them all anyway. Well they didn't kill them all and part of that is because of lack of coordination and lack of integration of force. Because with a little bit of organizing, a little bit more, just a little bit more teamwork and pre-set teamwork. In other words, it's not like they didn't know that the British were coming out because as I pointed out in this program, the British came out over and over again. And each time, especially the Salem event, it's argued 40,000 people mobilized for that situation way before Lexington and Concord. And the militias, by the time the British left Salem, the militias were showing up and showed up in equal, and then it turned out the argument was superior force because of the location. to what happened with the Concord, which was a little more remote, and so people had to travel differently to get there. But the only change in the formula is at the final point where the mass motion took place with no coordination, that people started to show up because the word got passed that they needed to siege Boston. So that basically the same number, an equal number showed up to say the Salem event as opposed to what happened with the Concord event. Now my point is that Another example of this is, all of us have hunted to one time, and we are competent, we are capable, and yes, you are going to be able to make that shot. I would take the person that can do that that might have disabilities, and like I've said before, I'm going to integrate the individual by age. and by performance and potential and put them into the battle in such a way that I can choreograph them out of the battle in advance. In other words, long range riflemen are something I've always talked about and something that needs to be remembered and integrated. The idea behind that is you can also withdraw those individuals, individuals who are slower, individuals who are injured, being able to recover your wounded. All of that is part of the integrated process of a deep deployment. The one thing, an example of Hunter versus somebody who has decided to apply military training. Remember we had the crazy nut case of Asian that killed the hunters out in Wisconsin or Minnesota. Forgive me, it's been a while. I just saw a little blurb on it the other day. The point is that he was outnumbered. In the initial contact, the argument was, and of course there are different Bufu stories about how this thing actually transpired, purely arbitrary and based upon who the Communist reporter was, it was writing the anti-gun article on it. But the bottom line is, is that outnumbered, this individual just simply took an attitude of fire maneuver. And a superior force like that should have been able to deal with an individual like that very, very quickly, but they were thinking very differently. First of all, they weren't really thinking they were going into a fight. But then when they did want to get belligerent, they didn't think about it as a fight. They thought they were just going to puff up and bully somebody. And my problem with that is something I've said over and over again, that you better have the right attitude going...if you pick a weapon up, you better have the right attitude going into that fight with it or that confrontation. Otherwise, why did you bring the rifle? Or why did you bring the gun? If you don't know how to use it or you don't have a clue that you're going to use it, then what are you doing? Which gets back to the why people need to have integrated and participate in more training. If nothing else, At the very least on your own are teams getting out there and maneuvering as a group or moving as a group. Not even maneuvering. Step one is how do you move? Let me give you an example. Another example is for everybody listening. Go to the videos and they've got lots of these propaganda videos because they show you the ones where the guys don't know what they're doing. They're probably guys who decided they were going to get into the fight in Iraq against us. My attitude, like I said, is right off the bat nobody was taking it seriously. They walk along, they're in cluster, what we call cluster screw formations, ad hoc, kind of waddling along. Nobody's really in charge because everybody's in charge. Nobody wants to listen to anybody else because they're all going to be, they all saw the movies Rambo and they all understand that they're going to be, this is what they're going to do, going into, you know, fight their jihad. Now you've seen these as thermal images. If you watch the one that's most notable is had the group properly been deployed that have been first harder to see but even if they wanted to engage them if they have been properly tactically deployed instead of waddling along like a bunch of characters going to a football game they would have not been damaged. They had taken fire but they would have been a lot more work to even try to round them up and neutralize them. As it is, as is pointed out as I've used that video before and several others, Once they started firing on the target had they used tactical deployment and understood how to use fire, you know, not fire maneuver, but covering concealment, I've pointed out time and again that with their thermal the very gunfire they used obstructed their view. So, understanding that and doing more to study the process of warfare and the battlefield you're walking out onto that you want to go kill people on, that group would have survived more likely too. Go ahead. Can you hear me? Henry brought this up on his program. I did have a chance to go back and read it. What started this argument that led to the comments is a group of guys were commenting on the fact that the posts that He had put up, looked a little silly, you know, this guy's dressing camel going out the weekend basically is what it comes down to. That's the way I read it, Henry. And the, of course, it escalated from there, which went... It wasn't that they said it looks City Ed really Ed I'm market really this is not about deer hunters. No, it's not training I'm training 110 percent and we put out the training films we push people to train the people are training This is about ego. This is about Chiefs and Indians and really mark I honestly you should read the whole post before you go forward with this because this guy is coming up and acting like these deer hunters think they are going out hunting deer. That is bullshit. You read it. I am back out. I am out of here. Okay, I appreciate it. Again, I have not seen the post, guys, so I have not had a chance to go through that yet. I know there is the debate going on. I am just pointing out particular key issues that I have seen personally from my experience as far as watching what happened on the battlefield overseas in Iraq. from the gorilla warriors perspective some of the stuff that just jumps out again in advance for everybody basic rules of motion can be you don't need to be applied constantly In fact, since we all talk about, and this is something that's discussed over and over again with all kinds of comments made in almost all these videos, well, they were really stupid or, oh yeah, this is a typical example of how dumb these people are. Well, if they don't have anybody that has, or if they don't think through the idea that they're being watched constantly, which at the very least we know that there's enough propaganda put out there by our government and puffing up using the video, the very kinds of videos we've seen, You have to treat every moment of your time on the battlefield as contact. I know that's tough because it's a heartburn, it creates a lot of additional effort that needs to be applied. That's just something I want to bring up in general. I wouldn't care what the subject was right now. It's just something I've been discussing with our friends. There isn't any time where this isn't real. Like somebody made the comment, this is so realistic. I've heard that so many times. No, no. This is real. R-E-A-L. and real combat You know, a lot of people like the music videos that we do. A lot of the really close up tight shots where you can see everybody is staged. And we did that because a lot of people were complaining that our training videos, well I see one or two guys booming. That's all you see in an instance in reality when we're training. In reality if you're doing your job, there's one video we posted there and every shot you'll see seven or eight people that you're looking at, seven or eight people and you can't see them. In fact, scroll back through our training videos and you'll notice it's one of the CMM videos. In fact, you'll see in one spot there's a piece of brush moving, which is the only thing that gives you a point of reference to orient to what you're looking at. In several cases, you're looking at up to seven people standing there. At the very end of the video, you actually get to see because they're actually exposing themselves because they're moving through to another area and it's fairly open. You actually get to see some of the people that you've been looking at through the whole video. It's not like, where are they? It's like a predator thing. If they're doing the job right, it really isn't something you can observe. That's the whole point. With combat operations, though, where we have the flare issues and all the other stuff, Spacing and dispersion is especially critical and the ability to stay mobile is important or understand the limitations of the technology, understand where the threat is and remember put junk between you and them. They can't see through stuff as easily as everybody thinks. I know we got another call as you're trying to get in there so jump in there. We have another person with a response. Go ahead. Mark, when I was in space. Hold on George. There was another person before you. I heard another voice. Who do we have? Okay, go ahead, George. Every time I went out in training, we never bunched up together. Even like on Forest Road March, I think we're supposed to be like 30 feet apart. I think the fragmentation grenade or something like that type of thing. Right, exactly. No, that's what I said. You know what the term is, but the only thing I can say on the air is, call it a cluster screw. But for every time that I've heard that, where everybody, you know, they'll be people yapping and talking about when they see militia videos or other videos, remember I can show you actual combat footage where it's like, how in hell do these people feel they're safe except that they must figure that the other side is so ill trained that they're not going to be where they need to be? Because there's shots where you'll have one guy looking around a corner and there'll be a whole stinking half a platoon piled up one man behind the other, butt cheek to butt cheek. In a real battlefield situation, guys looking at that, one good rifleman. A squad would be great. A whole squad being able to sit, rest, and wait. Then when they move through like this as they're cluster screwing, they would never be able to tell anybody what happened to them. Other than the fact, again, you'll find a pile of bodies and someone might go, hey, maybe we should mind everybody not to bunch up. Otherwise, if you watch some of this stuff, they're under fire. So, for all the garbage where they act about, you know, I'm talking about the people who may say the militia and they say our training in general, but what's fascinating is they'll turn right around and they'll be talking about those guys and what they're doing over there and how great they are. And then you watch these videos and it's like, well, you won't find the critique and comment, hey, why the hell are you bunched up like corn? Again, do you feel safe? There's no place really safe where you should treat it that safe that you're bunched up like that anywhere in a battlefield situation. I don't know where the hell the management is on this. I really don't. You can step one, two or three depending upon the SOP for the day. Yes, they also opened up in depth. That type of dispersion like I've talked about, it's not the Hollywood versions of what you see which are conditioning themselves to not make people think about the fact that hey, maybe we had a little more going for us brain power wise. So, that's just another issue that's tied into it. Again, the imagery of Hollywood has greatly affected our perception on how things worked in history because the farther you get away, the more you can get away with. The farther you get away from the event and the survivors, the more you can get away with. The more you can fabricate or alter or manipulate. What, you ever seen that movie Gettysburg by Jordan Maxwell, I mean, back in 1992? And I kind of know it was like George Pickett's division, you know, they were decimated by the artillery, you know, before they made it to the wall. And they were all bunched up together. Well, the reality behind that is you're in an assault force. You've got to remember the theory of the day based upon other, you know, schools of thought within military science. The argument was an attack. If any kind of force attack is to take place, The only way to bring fire to bear in focus is to keep the force tight and use them like a spearhead. Understand that that was part of a greater force and the idea was to pour through and punch a hole, pour through, you take your casualties but you punch through and then you run left and right through the flanks of the survivors. That was what the objective was. In some cases it works and it was one of those roll the dice where why it was chosen as an action is always a big debate. Malie, of course, is the man who made the decision. This gets back to the whole idea of pressure, a combination of pressure and perception. I think that one of the things that we need to remind everybody about is if you can get your enemy to deploy and then you don't make contact, you're not frustrating that guess. And yet the problem is that you get into what we call warrior mode where you get pumped up and you just want to shoot something. You're already keyed up for the battle. You're trained for the battle. You're prepped for the battle. You've had scenarios played out. You've mapped out a predetermined series of actions. You've trained and trained and trained. Then you get deployed. You're on the ground. You're on the fighting ground. And somebody gives you the order to fall back. However, psychologically, remember on the other side they are doing the same thing. What if you perfect the skill of being a ghost? I don't mean ghosts because you get your arse shut off on the battlefield, but because you force the enemy to spend resources and do to them, especially where you can condition your troops, to understand that they are a well-oiled sword. that they are well tended, that they are tempered metal, that they are properly conditioned, that they are better than the other side. Because there's always this BS where those other guys are always so much better than you. And it's like, really? Well, you know what's like I said earlier, they bleed just like me, they die just like me, their vehicles burn just like anybody else's, their aircraft fall out of the sky just like everybody else's. And if you don't think so, punch in helicopter wrecks. Afghanistan or helicopter wrecks Iraq. for all of the Apaches that we brag about and you know you make it sound like we haven't lost a stinking Apache in battle at all. Well if that's the case, then tell me where all those flattened egg type Apaches came from that are in all those pictures. Because when a helicopter comes out of the sky or a plane crashes if it doesn't toast and burn, it looks to me like a boiled egg that got dropped off a three-foot counter. And that's exactly what happened. So don't tell me that they don't die and don't tell me they can't be killed. Just in reverse, the first part of this is propaganda that's all in the media and holly weird. And then you've got the BS with CG where you've got these idiots doing triple somersaults from three and a half stories up. You ever jump from three and a half stories up people? No, ain't too many of you are going to be standing here talking to me about that. And of course if you couldn't do it when you were 21, I'd doubt you could do it when you were 55 or 60. So again, that's all BS. You look at some of this stuff that they show and it's like it's a croc. But it's designed and people are starting to be conditioned by it to think, oh my god, you see what he can do? Boy, I can't do that on the battlefield. I can't do that in real life. Oh, it's so futile. Oh my goodness. And that is what they're doing. And I guarantee that if you were actually able to work it, they're doing subliminals in conjunction with everything else to make us, oh, it's just futile to resist. And of course, if I even have a little bar thing there in the screen, it's futile to resist. If it isn't in the soundtrack. Well Mark, you know there was a little victory today for all the straight folks. And there was going to be, all the queers were going to be going out and protesting because a judge struck down Mayor Parker in Houston because he was going to have benefits for a same-sex cop and it really did not go well with a lot of people in Houston. And the judge struck it down and all the queers were going to be going out and protesting like, it's going to resist us. Well, again, in line, I think it's rather interesting. We had a wave of the black on white attack things and of course all the propaganda to whip that up. Now, from the media, they figured that if they can't get us to apologize enough for that, of course, which most people are going to stuff it up yours, they've pulled out the queer card like we're supposed to. What they're trying to do is get as many people cowed down or cowed back down as they can. Seriously, that's what this is about guys. I'm seeing there's a pattern to this in that out of desperation, remember that this is a whole bunch of characters that have come together because of their hatred of you, their hatred of the country, their sickness, whatever it is, and from different factions though. What's happening now is the bad guys to me, but what I'm seeing in this pattern is we've seen these cycles before with propaganda. And we've seen it used even once or twice, but they separate it by greater distance in terms of time. We're not seeing that now. They're cascading the guilt trip routine. Oh, you've got to feel bad. You shouldn't say things bad about those queers that are lusting for your lines or those TSA queers that are grabbing your gonads, which is why they got to the TSA job in the first place. And they especially are fondling those nine-year-olds. Well, heaven forbid we should say anything about filling the blank with regard to this. Like I said, the pattern that I saw with this thing with the Indian representative, the Indian diplomat is unheard of. But it makes sense if we look at what's going on overall. Amongst ourselves, we have to have debate. We need to be patient with each other and we can't be biting amongst ourselves. We're too close to a fighting war and the situation is going to get nothing but worse. However, again, we have to learn to work with each other and that means respecting each other's process. We can't be spitting on each other. I know how it is though. Well, you think that such dynasties think it's a distraction? Don't guys do what we can I'm gonna read what I'm gonna read what everybody recommended I haven't had time I really haven't but I'm gonna take care of that here during the break I got a homework assignment for my hour of rest. 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