December 6, 2013
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1h 5m
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Mark Koernke hosted the evening Intelligence Report on December 6, 2013, covering food storage preparedness, local activism, and self-sufficiency strategies. Callers discussed organizing county protests in Michigan regarding child welfare issues, while the host and co-host BK provided detailed guidance on affordable bulk food storage (wheat at $11-12 per 50-pound sack, butter, popcorn), sprouting and growing food crops including permaculture methods, and protecting stored food from rodent damage. The show also promoted an upcoming interview with Paul Wheaton on permaculture and discussed alternative crops like chicory and coffee production.
- food storage
- wheat
- preparedness
- michigan militia
- child welfare
- gladwin county
- arenac county
- midland county
- permaculture
- popcorn
- butter storage
- sprouting
- rodent control
- chicory
- self-sufficiency
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He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free home and Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening Intel report. I'm our kronky and bite our knife one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, central, and north. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on... Liberty Tree Radio, dot 4 mch.com, running with the micro station, CB Bay stations and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the homework that we're going to Eastern Seaboard, top of Maine, bottom of Florida, bottom of Florida, because the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, head of Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 5th and 5th and our friends in Colorado, waving to the left coast. We turn back to the sweep cross plains, leap over the Mississippi, land in the Smokies, where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, OK teams, the Ma Bell Grandma Consortium, Good evening to our ladies up there in the Cleveland area. The Golden Spike. Many hands make for like work. Well, BK, the cold air coming in from the west and the northwest. It's gray. It's typical late fall, headed towards winter weather here in Michigan. What's it like in your neck of the woods and what is the day today? What's jumping off the walls? It is flipping 19 degrees Fahrenheit here and I don't like it one last little bit. It is Friday evening, it is 6 December 2013. This is the last hour of the day and the week for the intelligence report and that makes this quarter masters corner. I should say that I was on the previous hour on the militia town hall meeting and I made a general comment to people, you know, if you feel like hanging over into this program, feel free. That's just a general statement from a pending offer. I got an incoming Skype attempt. from a group call which is I imagine, bam, they're spiking some other people and I cannot accept that call because it would have bounced me off the existing connection. So I'm not really working on that general offer, there's just a technical issue there and maybe Ed would have to call that group or something along those lines. But I put the reject button for that reason. Okay? So just so you guys don't get confused. Yeah, we're on. Okay, because the Skype is, I'm on Skype and it's working on from this end. Okay, well, I'm told that I'm hot, so I'll try to dial me down a little. Okay, I was going there Mark. Very good, who do we have? The white buffalo from up north. Okay, what do you got going on? Jump in there please. Well, me and Steve and Liberty and Mike from America, the old men. We're working on getting a protest going to Aaronet County, Gladwin County, and Midwin County, CBS. We're asking everybody who's in the Patriot Movement, we'd like to get at least 500 members at each one. I'm getting involved or getting in touch with radio stations, TV stations. There's a lot of issues in the counties right now. Two of them. Very good. Okay, now I can't, I'll give everybody an update. How can we get a hold of you or where can we either email or call or where do we have a web page we can go to for more information? Go ahead. Well, you can give me a call at 989-488-4. Again, that number is 989-488-3714. And you can also get a hold of me through my email address, white buffalo, I-T-E-B-U-S-2200-1. and She said she heard the babies crying, which was my niece Jasmine and my brother Steven's little girl Josie crying. Then she walked into the house sleep in the back of the bed. Well, then she said she went outside and started dabbing on the windows to try to get Michelle to wake up. Her story is all two different times. And now they're trying to adopt my niece Jasmine out to a wealthy family there in Bradley. Trying to put a stop. It sounds more like a child marketing program if they already had somebody lined up that quick. Oh yeah, that's a money thing there. Somebody just slid some money sideways. The amount of time it takes with regard to adopting a child in the system right now Guys, if they've expedited it like that, we're talking a year backlog, 16 month backlog, etc., etc., etc. So there's something funky going on with this to begin with. Go ahead. Well, like I said, we want to put a stop phone. My brother Benjamin lives in Tennessee. He's a CEO. I'll try to get ahold of the girls. I don't understand. He said that there's been some money that's already exchanged hands. Quick on this. And like I said, we'd like to get 1500 people, 500 people in each county, that's Midland County, Gladwin County, and Aernac County, because all three stand together. Very good. And again, now slow down because you've gone way too fast. Okay. Each time give out the email site three times and slowly give out your phone number three times. Okay. The email is WHEEWIPEPELO. at Yahoo.com. Second one is WITE is employed. You can go to Yahoo.com. And third time, W-H-8-9-1-4-9-8-9-8-8-3-7-1-4. And again, the number is 9-8-9-8-8-7-1-4. And my name everybody. If there are any questions, I'll be glad to answer them. And we'd like to set this up. That way it gives everybody time to get around and get up for February 5th, 2014. Well, this is Rattlestake. What exactly are you trying to set up? A rally or some kind of a protest? Not a protest because we're all going to be carrying signs. Get 500 pieces of poll poster board if needed and we've got other members that are going to try to purchase poll poster boards. I wonder if it would be more to point to see if you can't pack a courtroom or something along those lines if there are actual public proceedings. Well, I'm trying to find out when the next coordinator is. Jasmine and Jasmine's last name is Blue Gray Madison. This is, well, UK. Like I said, these girls have been placed in Pause. Jasmine, even though she's a baby, you know, it's to stay on her because she don't even want to tell them. It needs to be done with these people. It's a snatching grab job. We've also gotten in touch with Indian tribes and the state's one worker. I'm trying to get her name and phone number right now. Indians don't have any rights. It's called Indian Welfare Child Act. Anybody not needed it from adopting what we're going for. My dad and Indian cards were doing the family plan where we tracked our We have a federal Indian judge who is helping us get us Indian cards so we can be readily recognized. Very good. And again, you give us a follow-up on this. Now, are you guys going to have any advance meetings anywhere or is there any place where people will be expecting to get together? Yeah, we're going to try to set it up for the fifth. We're going to try to get everybody together a couple days beforehand so we can start Again, I'm done. So when we get down there, we got our nuts in a row. Now remember, we've got the other meeting in Midland, in the Midland area. You need to attend that. It's not this weekend, it's next weekend. Yeah, I have my brother Stephen attend that one because he was right down there by the meeting site. Very good. And again, it's very critical that you stop in. There will be a lot of people there. They can spread the word locally for the people that need to be contacted that are part of their organizations. I'll start off Steven and have him call in. I'll tell you what, wait until Monday on that, okay? Okay, I'll start calling in Monday. I'll start calling in Monday. I'll start calling in Monday also, please. Okay, we'll do it. The two of you can call in simultaneously. Okay, see you in a bit. All right, see you in Monday. BK, go ahead and jump in there, please. Okay. Do we have anything else that's pending before we get rolling here? I heard another caller there. We have one thing one thing pending. This is Joe from the Carolinas guys. Hey Joe Hey, just want to remind everybody we do have a live Interview with Paul Wheaton the Duke of permaculture the owner of the largest permaculture website on the internet coming up this Tuesday December 10th 7 p.m. Eastern 6 p.m. Central 5 p.m. Mountain 4 p.m. Pacific that will be the full hour So anybody who has questions make sure you email me, Joe from the Carolinas at gmail.com for that show. Otherwise, I'm going to go with sort of previously agreed upon topics that Paul and I have discussed. Thank you. Right. Remember, this is a regularly scheduled hour for Grow Your Own. That's Joe's permaculture program. Now, Mr. Wheaton is an Aussie, right? Actually, no. He was born in Idaho and he's confusing him with somebody else. Okay, go ahead. You're probably confusing him with Jeff Lawton, but no. Mr. Wheaton was born in Idaho and he currently owns several hundred acres in Montana. So anybody in the cold temperate to cool temperate climates, you may want to tune in for the Grow Your Own episode coming up or listening on the archives. If he can explain how the fellow in Switzerland is growing tropical trees up in the mountains, I would be fascinated to hear that topic. Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate it. I'll pass that on. Go right ahead and jump in there BK. Okay, this is a kind of unusual start for our hour, so I'm a little bit off balance here. Let's touch a couple of routine things. At the risk of sounding a little bit repetitious, I would like to mention a few items that are current. And that is that we concentrate on food a lot here. One of the principles is that we'll be able to produce some JAR's program talks about that through either permaculture methods or conventional methods of gardening, etc. But for the first year, the first two years, what have you, of a severe dislocation and disruption, we're going to be heavily reliant on stored material. We'd like to mix in as much fresh stuff as we can because of vitamins and enzymes and all those good things. Spouting wheat is a useful mechanism to do that. You can create wheat grass juice and so on and so forth. But fundamentally, you are going to be kept alive if you have stored food. And we should be concentrating on that while the economy is still kind of functional. And there are a few basics. that are easily obtained right now and we should continue to exploit those. And to that end, I will remind people that you can still buy wheat. If you go to your farmers cooperative, your silo, your feed mill, whatever it may call itself in your area, and the growing price right now, either in my area or in areas that people have communicated to me, is something on the order of $11 to $12 for a sack that's either 50 pounds or one bushel, which would be 60 pounds. So, if you do the arithmetic and count out the calories and all that kind of good stuff, if you could actually live on nothing but wheat, you would not want to do that of course. If you multiply out the calories and the cost and so on, what it works out is that you can support an active adult on about 30 to 40 cents per day equivalent. Now you would not want to do that. You would want wheat to be more than maybe half of your diet and preferably a smaller fraction than that. But the very low cost of this is extremely attractive and for that reason I would say that we should be at the base of your food storage program. It can be brought in bulk now and will never lose its utility value even if the second coming happened tomorrow and everything settled out and we suddenly didn't have to deal with all of these vampires, etc. It would still be of benefit. So take a look around, find out where your bulk vendors are. Do not rely entirely on the grocery store. You can purchase either a 50 pound sack or a bushel sack which would be about 60 pounds depending on how your local vendor operates. It will cost between $11 and $12 at retail, plus the sales tax in most states. If you have not started setting things aside at all, that is one of the very, very basics that you can pick up. The same places will generally offer you peanuts in the shell. They may have shell peanuts, but you never know. Some of them will have corn. I would say stay away from the corn. It's almost all GMO. stuff, but the wheat is a baseline product and commonly available in bulk. You can store it in any number of ways. You can get the Mylar bags and put them in buckets or drums or what have you. If you have to, you can use Ziploc bags from the grocery store. Again, put them in some tougher container, metal or heavy plastic or what have you. Another item that you can pick up very cheaply right now, Aldi continues to have butter on listed at $1.69 a pound, either sweet cream or salted. The markings on the shelf say new low price. So contrary to what I have reported in recent weeks, that does not seem to be a sale price. That seems to be a seasonal price. So, Butter keeps very, very well. You can stick it in a fissure. You can can it in fashions that we have described before. If I recall correctly, the December 5, 2008 program in our archives goes into that in some detail. This time of year, you can park it out in the garage and you have an automatic freezer or refrigerator out there and deal with long-term storage technologies at your leisure. These are commonly available. All these stores cover about the eastern two-thirds of the United States. There may be other outfits that are doing similarly in the westernmost edges, but these are opportunities not to be passed up. The third option that I would recommend to people is that while corn is generally poisoned by GMOs courtesy of a local industry here, named Monsanto, popcorn is not. because popcorn is much more a boutique item, a specialty item and the outfits that breed that have not jumped on the GMO bandwagon the same way as the commodity producers have. You can, for instance, at Costco pick up large plastic jugs of Jolly Time popcorn. I think they are 12.5 pound jugs, something on the order of $10 last time I saw. That is nearly a dollar a pound so that's more expensive than the wheat we've just been touting. But popcorn is a yummy thing. It usually produces a morale of food and a change up. If you avoid hitting one particular feed stock too heavily, you reduce the risk of people in your household developing allergies. If you feed people too much of the same thing for too long, a certain percentage of them will develop allergies and a food allergy to a major feedstock is a serious problem. Popcorn is another one to mix into the food storage system. Now, that he intends to put the food spreadsheet up on his archive site. His current archive site is indianafreedomtalkradio.com. He may or may not have remembered to do that as we speak. If he has not, you can always pick up a copy at the old site. That is theintelligencereport.co.nr. That is November Romeo. The food spreadsheet that I wrote is available for the butter knife price of $0.00 and 0 cents. If you load OpenOffice also freely available, then you will be able to operate that spreadsheet and use it to do some planning. If you don't have some sort of mechanized procedure for planning your food storage program, grab that one. That is an available option. It is well done if I do say so myself. If you have something you like better than by all means, use it. But that gives you a baseline option, a way to get started. So between those things, you have no particular excuse to not be starting some sort of food storage program. Even if you are in an apartment, plastic pails are not all that big a storage problem. choose a linen closet or something, fill a dozen pails and stack them two by three wide and two layers deep in a closet and you've got to start on something you're good for a couple of months at any rate. So there's really no excuse for any of us being in serious food distress on a short run basis should a disruption occur. Comments? Again, one of the most important things is, as we've said, take advantage of the mills. The amount of food, as is pointed out, calories, $4. What are you looking at in terms of benefit? There's a whole bunch of stuff definitely there that, especially in the red wheat, the white wheat, whichever you may have in here, different parts of the country, the different short storage and long storage wheats are available. Both can be stored for long periods of time. Red wheat is an extreme long storage. We would remind everybody that if we use any of the grains, your best bet is to work in towards either a mill, obviously, or get some of the better traditional formulas for making coarse loaves or coarse bread. Don't think of it as bread the way you see the white fluffy loaves in the store. Traditionally, bread was actually whole grain, semi-crushed, semi-milled, and mixed with other grains to create literally a loaf that was a meal. And a one pound loaf was originally a man's meal. Think about that. So again, red wheat, legumes, barley, rolled oats, these were all things that were part of what made those loaves. dairy products which can be easily done. Goats and other animals of course are readily available for farm operations produce the dairy products that support it. Usually you would get like a half pound or a full pound of butter and a loaf and that was a meal. That was actually a pub meal at one time, very common pub meal. So something to think about there. When you see these old movies, yeah, the middle ages, they want to go from one area to the next because one of the old nights Well, guys, when they plop their arse down at the end of the day, usually there was a chunk of meat. The bread meal was, of course, part of that. And you'll notice that sometimes they show it accurately. They'd be just literally a slug of butter and very rich, obviously. And the idea behind that was building calories. So simple meal, tasty meal, and they're certainly unique for most people nowadays. But most important, if you're starving, oh yeah, you'll eat it. Trust me. Enjoy it. Right away. Talking about that popcorn earlier, I was going to ask you, can you plant that and it reproduce? Yes, it's non-hybrid. Popcorn across the board is a renewable resource. That's one of those crops that everybody that's in it usually is in it for some big money because there's competitions for popcorn production, there's connoisseurs de popcorn, people that actually go around and they have popcorn competitions where flavor and fluffiness and the one of the first thing they do is they check to see and count the number of un-pop kernels in an ounce and that's one of the tests the idea is to get maximum production for you know minimal amount of work. So the best of my knowledge there is no processing done that would interfere with popcorn sprouting. Some of the grains there are, for instance if you get barley, if it's been hauled, well it's not going to sprout properly because it's been put through a mechanical mangling process in effect, but corn is not the same way. The popcorn that you throw in the pot is perfectly capable of sprouting if you were to plant it. Okay, and as far as wheat, where can you get that to plant? So you're not only producing it, but you'll have something to fall back onto, you know, a mill. Well, all of the wheat can be repl... Typically the wheats that are out there are seed potential. There is nothing they do actually to weed unless, again, like BK said, if you get it where it has been thatched and hauled, that is typically what you are going to see in certain storage systems. It is a matter of if they did it as a grist or if they do it as a whole grain. You want it as a whole grain if at all possible. If you buy complete wheat just straight up from the farmer's cooperative or from the silo or the feed grain supplier, bear in mind that that stuff sprouts just fine. One of the ways to use it is to sprout it in a little bit of potting silo in a big tray and so on. You sprout the stuff up to about 6 or 8 inches tall and run it through a little grinder and make wheatgrass. In our trays it is spread in the ground too. Nothing horrible has been done to it. Now if you buy so-called seed wheat, That's a whole other thing and mix it with all sorts of nasty stuff and coat it with some junk and we'll see that the color has changed. We'll coat it with herbicides or fungicides or gosh knows what. It will be a different color. It will be green or blue or some such to make it visible that this is not something you want to feed to your livestock and you certainly want to feed it to yourself. The commercial farmers will use that. grow a patch of wheat in a piece of land that you've got. You can just use the same wheat that you're grinding or sprouting in your home and it will still work. I don't know what your yields will be, but it will work. One of the things that I found out by accident is kind of interesting is that my little compost pile, my informal compost pile, there's no science to it, I just throw things on it, is a little patch of ground over the edge of the deck and I walk out on the deck and throw the kitchen scraps over the edge and they just sort of accumulate the same place that piles of leaves are composting and so on. When I empty trays that I have used for sprouting wheatgrass, I dunk those right over the edge too. I was surprised a few months ago to look over the edge and see that some of that stuff is growing. I thought well darn, because I use potting soil and generate this stuff and snip it off and grind it up and what's left over, just throw it onto the compost heap, figure it out, I'll use it again in that fashion. But some of that weed actually survived and thrived so I've got with a patch of grass growing down there. So it shows that it's fairly robust. Yeah, a lot of this stuff is not all that complicated. They've got us conditioned into thinking that only a specialist in every category, including agriculture, could possibly do anything. You cannot change your spark plugs. You need a technician with rubber gloves and a surgical mask to perform that critical operation. You need a farmer with a five-ton tractor to grow food for you and so on and so forth. It's not true. It's all PR. They are better at it than we are, but when the system is broken to the point that their efforts are not efficiently transmitted to us, then we can fall back on doing a lot of these things ourselves. My grandfather used to be an old dirt farmer, and he didn't have all that fancy stuff, but he grew a lot of good vegetables and had no problem. Exactly, and most of us have parents or grandparents or whatnot who have a vegetable patch and we're going to have to be getting back to that. Not because we're necessarily all that much better at it than people were 50 or 100 years ago, though these permaculture concepts that Joe is promoting certainly are a technological advance. But rather we are coping with the fact that a system of specializing relies on a certain honesty of the economic system and the distribution system and that is being broken quite deliberately by the vampires that we discuss on a routine basis. So going back to doing some of this stuff ourselves is a way of short circuiting the barriers that have been constructed between us and the people that are doing things on a special day basis for us. Anything else? You know, like I can't remember if I told y'all before, I have 2.06 acres. I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time hearing you. I have a piece of land out in Nevada and it's pretty much shrubbed, so that's why I was going to try and do when I get out there. is put me in a little Patriot Garden out because you can't trust for the stores to be open next year or a year after. I also used to drive trucks so I know that everything is set on as end time delivery. So if you don't have it and it goes when the delivery stops, they There are only three days worth of groceries if you are lucky in the grocery store. As a result, lots of people have decided they want to get into mining these things. It took only about four days to completely clean out the retail distribution system of the video cards that people use for that purpose. So, while that is not a food type subject, it is an example, an illustration of just exactly how thin the distribution system has become, particularly with this whole just in time delivery doctrine. commodity, some item becomes popular, it takes almost no time to vacuum down the entire national supply of whatever that commodity may be. Now video cards are contrary to some people's opinion, not about life critical commodities, but the fact that all of them available can be vacuumed in four or five days across the century. should be a warning to all of us that if that happens in the grocery store, we're going to be a deep yogurt. Another thing I was interested in trying to grow is coffee beans. Coffee beans? Yeah, coffee beans. That's a little bit more ambitious if you succeed in doing so. My hat's off to you. The rule of thumb on coffee beans is that they like Mountain terrain, mainly because they like very good drainage on the soil, meaning slops, and they like being watered pretty much every day. Those are the conditions that I tend to obtain on mountains. As the winds come in and dump rain on the mountainside every day, they drain out fairly clearly. But if you succeed in different terrain and get some success at doing that, you have been a remarkable thing. So what would be an alternative to the coffee bean? Chickery. There's that and there's also the number 10 can plant. I seek to set aside a number 10 cans and figure out some things are best stored. Well, if you're going to do the coffee plant, the big thing is to do any coffee plants, you're probably going to end up being fully green-housed and indoors, simply because of the temperature range, even where you're down south. It's a combination of soil issues, like as BK said, and water. If you've got enough water and you've got enough heat, you can make them work. It's just that we don't see it typically because altitude, there's an altitude niche. that seems to be preferred for the plant to get optimal production. You'll notice that a lot of these operations, although again, I've always wondered and wanted to see where do they grow the coffee beans in Somalia and where do they grow the coffee beans in Ethiopia because we get them from both places, you see. I would point out that both of them have a whole lot of heat, if nothing else. They also have an awful lot of sunlight. Yeah, a lot of sunlight. And so that's where the balance has to be if you're going to be working on specialized production crops like that. Now, people have done and calculated so they can get a couple pots of coffee a year. And notice I didn't say cans. With a couple of plants, coffee plants, they can actually produce their own coffee in their own blend slash breed, whatever you want to call it. Again, if you look at coffee the way it traditionally was, it's a spice. It would be categorized in the trade spice range by the very nature of how it's specialized in production. It's like we've talked about chocolate. We're in the same boat with chocolate. It's a unique import product. It was originally rated and in fact thought to be, think about it, when it came back from the United States, or from the United States, forgive me, from the New World to Spain, it was the rave. I mean, chocolat, oh, this was one of those, look what we found in the New World things. And it would be rated and was rated as a spice. Here in the United States, or on North America, where we are, most everywhere from top to bottom because of poverty, cost of coffee, etc. We have substitutes where typically they're used only or were used to thin out, stretch out the coffee beans and that's where chicory comes in and some of the others that are out there. There are several different barks that also were used that produce caffeine. The big thing is the caffeine issue. The idea is not just sipping on some kind of tea water. The idea is that you actually had something in the flavor range and you got the end result that you wanted from it, which was the caffeine rush. The other thing that I would mention is that I have a couple of kilograms of caffeine in jars. sitting inside you can get those from laboratory chemical supplies if you like. If you use that, be very, very careful about the concentrations. You do not want to make a cup of coffee that's accidentally 50 times proper strength. You can do bad things to yourself. Exactly. The big thing here again, those are specialized crops where chicory actually as a product could be promoted. Chicory is a weed. It traditionally was grown to in fact promoted just like mint and other products that we have where they can be naturally sewn. They can be left and then sewn in an area. What you do is they progressively will produce themselves and you have a patch just like you hear about the old onion patches. Onion patches used to be just exactly the way you see some of not so much cartoons but some of the more realistic field paintings from the 1600s and such and also some people thought they were caricatures of like Briar Rabbit and such but the onion patch literally is where the onions were allowed to grow and propagate and literally became the dominant crop, the item in that field. They would produce, they would bulb out, they would drop, they would make more. Almost every bulb type plant will do that. It will saturate an area and virtually take over. It will bind itself. It will bind the ground. The problem is that it's all competing for the same nutrients, so they'll thin out and then they start to expand intentionally to move on to other territory. I would suspect that the way to handle that would be to map out the terrain and then go through and completely harvest all of them from one-third of the northern edge say and allow them to expand to the south and then next year to the next third from the northern edge and let that patch move around as a form of natural crop rotation because I have heard that there are fungi and bacteria and so on that will take up residence and learn to attack or garlic if it's grown continuously in the same spot. So you probably want to let it move around and swarm on its own and move other plants into the same spot each year. So go ahead and strip out the northern one-third or the southern one-third or what have you and let the patch move ahead of you and follow along behind it and harvest it in that fashion. That seems to me probably the lazy man's way of managing that. Well, actually, raspberry patches will do the same, wild raspberry patches will do the same thing because they will self-root as they move. And we have a raspberry patch just to the north of where I'm sitting right now that when we first took over the property was about 55 feet to the east. The way we can benchmark it is we have a row of daffodils that have been sitting there for probably 100 years that are wild for all practical purposes. But the raspberries walked over them and then walked past them and now have completely changed the location. The patch is still a raspberry patch, but it's over 50 to 60 feet from its original location as far as its dominance. So there's an example again, it will seek out, it's looking for nutrients, it consumes the soil. It consumes what's in the soil, the critical nutrients that it needs. And all plants do the same thing, but that can also create other hazards too. The big thing is, if you pick something and make it your niche, if you can figure out how to do some of the things we're talking about, like even the coffee, well, hell yes, you would be a business unto yourself in a distress situation, the biggest problem would be holding onto the plants. The other thing you might be able to combine technologies, for instance, if you picked up a category or two of caffeine and then also grew chicory, you could enhance the chicory and end up with a better substitute coffee than either of those two commodities alone. If it wakes them up sitting at the table, they'll buy another cup. Think about it that way. In other words, if a product works. I know you have more to cover. Jump in there please. Sure. We are once again at that awkward point where the big topics that I have queued up will not fit. Here's a little topic. At the risk of once again telling a tale on myself, I had an interesting little event this week. You can imagine that there's little bits of stuff stored here and there around BK's place. There is a corner that does not normally have food in it, it has other junk in it. But some time back I was stacking things up and packing boxes and so on and I had a little bit more than will fit in a box so I set aside some of this extra on a shelf. These were the little 5 ounce mac and cheese packs and had like five of those and I just set them on a shelf and kind of forgot about them because I had filled up the box completely and they didn't fit. Somewhere along the line, I must have bumped them or maybe the mice were at work and they fell onto the ground. I sat there for a few months and I just discovered them earlier this week. I said, oh wow, these guys fell onto the floor and they probably got a little bit damp, they're probably no good. I picked them up and examined them and was a little bit surprised. Now, jump back to another little story that I told earlier this year. I detected the presence of a colony of mice and went on mouse jihad with a mouse trap and annihilated and genocided the BK household's mouse colony and got them one or two at a time and eventually they wiped them all out I believe because I've heard no traces of them. I think I got them all. But the upshot of that is, well, obviously they were getting into something and turning some sort of biomass into mass mass, and I wondered which of my preps they had gotten into. I hadn't found any trace of that. Well, when I found these items that had fallen on the ground, the mystery was solved, examining them. I found some very interesting little chew holes in these boxes. And, oh, okay, now I know that the mice had gotten into angular turning into mouse. A quarter number of ounces of phosphate got turned into a very small number of ounces of mouse, but that's what happened. It was kind of interesting examining the hole, just like a Tom and Jerry cartoon, they're much smaller, they're only about an inch tall. But it was very, very interesting. was that while mice are not individually very smart, because I outwitted them with my mouse traps and repeatedly with peanut butter, and they never caught on with peanut butter, I got them all. Two of these boxes had mouse chew holes in it and were completely empty. The other two simply had a little bit of moisture damage from being on the ground and had not been penetrated. Interesting that the mice exploit those food sources in sequence. They chewed a hole into one. and they cleaned it out and then they chewed a hole in the next one and they cleaned it out and they started to chew on the next one and I got them all. So that's interesting because in our box turtles in the garden we'll go down the row and take one bite out of every vegetable they see and ruin vastly more than they actually eat. The mice actually operated the other way around and probably rats if you ever got those would do the same thing which leads me to an interesting thought. You do need to protect your storage with plastic buckets or steel drums or whatever it is that you want to use to protect them. But it occurs to me that it might be sensible in a storage area to put out bait. Not poisoned bait, the way people think, but diagnostic bait. If you put out something that is tasty to the critters, and it turns out that pasta is tasty to mice, Then check those periodically. That would be a useful tool just to determine whether your household has been penetrated. Having that thought crossed my mind, I would suggest that that might be a useful technique that people might want to roll into their food storage program. Again, most important here too is it's actually a discussion we had about certain types of containment. If you're going to be storing, if at all possible, watch for metal containers. I know that's a simple solution, but a lot of times, like number 10 cans, that's one of the advantages of number 10 cans. They are a sealer system. Critters can't get in them. Plastic containers, it varies. Some they will mess with, others they won't. But what I would point out is one of the other factors with Rodentia is also how bitter the environment is. If they can identify a food source, they will wear their teeth down, I'm sure, to the gums. trying to get to something. What usually retards them is the you gotta remember those little teeth could only nibble so much and they know they know their endurance level so they'll find a weak target and they'll focus on that and again once they've expended the energy then they focus on moving the product you know the snicking it off to where they need to store it. Right, the cardboard in the little mac and cheese box was not a big challenge to them and therefore they have no reason to try to work through heavy plastic buckets or anything like that. So that strikes me as an interesting notion. You could use little cardboard boxes like that straight off the shelf or make a paper envelope just out of writing paper and staples or whatever you want to do. That sort of bait, however, might be useful as a diagnostic bait as opposed to a poisoning bait just to determine whether there are intruders or not. Exactly. The other thing here too is when you are storing, we talked about using other containment systems that may have special technology. Well, I guess we're going to be as far as we can go tonight. Remember, old MRE pouches, guys, don't throw them away. The old dark brown ones have a test control agent that was integrated into the plastic to help keep the critters from continuing to nibble. Just like what BK's talking about, which is a major threat issue. God bless the Republic. Yeah, for the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march, both day and night. hoo-rah and those little brown mouse rice I think is what they were producing it goes in as white and it comes out the other end it's another product ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Washington and Jefferson are crying here's a change to see these men who'd rather live at sleep. The minute men are turning in their graves. But I failed to understand the man that...