November 27, 2013
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1h 8m
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2013
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Mark Koernke discussed weapons and ammunition strategy, emphasizing the .30-06 and .308 as superior battle rifle cartridges and recommending consistent ammunition purchases at gun shows. He covered preparedness topics including food preservation (smoking turkeys and carp), predator management (coyotes, wild dogs, raccoons), and historical perspectives on colonial-era firearms and tactics. Callers contributed discussions on wild dog packs, animal behavior, and the effectiveness of the M1A rifle platform.
- .30-06 ammunition
- .308 cartridge
- main battle rifle
- m1a rifle
- preparedness
- ammunition stockpiling
- coyote management
- wild dogs
- food preservation
- smoking meat
- predator control
- michigan
- weapons wednesday
- tactical rifle
- survival skills
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You've I permits to travel and permits to own a gun. permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent, although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep and dead. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children can be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and eat God given right. And pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iookeed vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep, and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, is to still the land of the free. Afternoon. Oh good evening, but it's still afternoon way out west. There's three hours behind us so that means it's five o'clock out there on the left coast. Well good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intel report. I'm R. Korky and we may not have done with this yet. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories. West, southwest, east, and North. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com. We're on AM and FM Microstations, CB Bay stations and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on Eastern Seaboard, top of Maine, bottom of Florida, bottom of Florida, Coast Guard, going to go up to Mexico, Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both 5th and 5th. And our friends in the the Civil War slash the recall state of Colorado, the peckerwood, the piece of trash, the yahudi scum quit because it, she, shem, whatever it was, was going to get recalled so by quitting the demicons get a chance to throw another person of the same ilk back into the seat. Recall that person anyway. Recall petition for whoever they assign to the job. and everybody needs a password on to our friends in Colorado. Start up another petition and recall the bugger. Be done with it. No matter who it is. So the one fool left, the other piece of trash coming in, it's going to be the same cut from the same cloth and just a cookie out of the same batch. Time to throw the batch away. There's another word, but if it's female. But even if it's a queer male, it would still be the same other term would work. Anyway, left ghost. waving there to where Feinsteinism and the diaper stain of Brown continue to promote the California Soviet Socialist democracy red and yellow paint that state and the boots on the ground beachhead for communist occupation by the internationals to include communist Chinese forces. It says foreclosure officers on the paper they hold. Get ready for it, it's coming. Turning back to the east, we sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi land and the Smoky slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, Grandma teams, OK teams, and the Bob Bell Grandma Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work. A million petticoat junctions, the ability to continue functioning when everything else is offline. I heard a ding we might have done with us. We'll double check that just to be safe. I'll wait for a minute there. Star six. If not, we'll mute it and go back to mute. Here we are. Don, what is the date today, sir? Mark, it is the 27th day of November, year of our Lord 2013. We're a beautiful day. It's sunny, a little bit windy, chilly as most of the end of November can be. We've got some snow out there, so if you're shooting deer, it's good for tracking. But again, 27 November 2013. It is a particular day. I almost lost attention of that. But hey, let's do this here. With the magazine between Index Finger and Baby Finger, Alan touched that slide release. Man, I've got one in the chamber now. There isn't nobody rushing to the door. So I'm going to take the time and top that magazine off again. magazine and man it just appears between my index finger and baby finger again pointing in the right direction again and hey it goes right into that magazine well like it was designed for it. But it is. There's plenty more where that came from. And that means we can offer equal opportunity for Coercie Force when the time comes. It has been a beautiful fall day. Cold fall day but still nonetheless we're getting that cold wet damp bubble over this end of the state right now. Pay attention to your environment and remember guys it's going to get worse, not an F just a win, it's the nature of the season. But you can feel it in the air, you know, in the air tonight, or that Genesis song, Phil Collins. Anyway, it is Weapons Wednesday, I will remind everybody to try to find solutions. If you already have a bolt gun and it's a heavy caliber, again we had this discussion with a lot of our friends on and off the air. Some people were saying 30 out of 6 or 308. Now I'm going to say this but I want you to understand it and I'm going to qualify it over and over again. You can use 308 and 30 out of 6. It's not your first choice of things to do but it will work. Now it's one of those transition cartridges or overlapping A category interconnected cartridges that would be in the old if we were in an emergency situation what would work list. So the Out 6 is a better choice for the most part and bolt guns that are out there. Price of ammunition is about the same guys so you've got greater diversity in 30 Out 6 from making a plinker round for a small game or anti-personnel quiet using a double out buck charge, a little bit of unique powder, a standard primer and oh my goodness you get a wad cutter 30 Out 6 out of that. All the way up to 220 grain FMJ or 220 grain, that's a soft point round nose, big butt bullets. The .30-06 will push everything from that smallest to the biggest and everything in between and it is a fine round. If you've got an .06, buy more ammo. That's all I'm going to say. Buy more ammo. No, you don't sell that gun. You don't get rid of it. That is a battlefield supremacy round. There are so much 30 out of 6 out there that that's one round that will be out there for a long, long, long time. You want it to be out there longer? Buy more ammo. It's that simple. They'll make more. Trust me on that one. 150 grain, 160 grain, 170 grain are the middle ground for that. But again, don't trade out the weapon. If you already got an out 6, if you can get an out 6 cheap, and chances are you can because a lot of people are told, God, really? No, get up, fill in the blank, whatever the latest cartridge is. Well, if they want to sell it, cheap, grab it. Guys are running to bolt up bolt action, savages, older savages, which really now even the newest savage design is now, well it came out in the late air, forgive me, the middle early 80s, the present tactical rifle and it was all the rage and it's taken its own niche in the inventory. Somebody wants to get rid of a Ruger tactical rifle cheap because they think they need the latest and greatest, don't argue with them, get it from them. Let them spend the money to bring the next weapon into service and you buy that fine 30-06 rifle and put it on the shelf. And again, it's a supremacy. Whatever glass you put on top of it, that rifle will work with. And remember, it will achieve maximum ranges. You can also load up the custom spec. A lot of guys have come up with super match loads for that bullet and have been in place for 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years. Well, wow, that's right because the cartridge is 100 years old. So, purely a matter of creativity and what you need to do with what you got on the shelf to make it work for you. The other thing, excuse me, the regular military battle rifle cartridges, no matter what they are, make sure that you are continuing to pick up some ammunition. If you go to a gun show, here is the old trick we used to use. Today it would be put $40 in that left pocket. But if you have a rifle that takes a unique caliber you go through find the best price and you spend that set amount of money. Unless somebody has something cheap, cheap, cheap that you just happen to run into you always spend at least that dollar amount you've got in the left pocket for that rifle. Every time you go to a gun show that's a nice simple way or a gun shop for that matter. Wow look they got 7.5 French I'm gonna buy some. Oh look they've got 7.5 swiss. Oh look they've got whatever the rifle is you've got. If they have it on the shelf either as reload or as new factory ammo find the best price, buy what you can for the most for that dollar amount or a little less. Don't ever go over. Just keep your stick to your budget. If you have a little left over and you can't get more ammunition for that three or four dollars switch that over to the right pocket and that's for other things on the list. Okay? But always keep buying ammo. That's the that I've said this for as long as I've been on the air I've been proved right and I have to say this I've been proved right over and over and over again And I know that for those of you who listened we've saved you a lot of money Haven't we? Oh yes, all you 22 shooters out there So I said somebody was asking me well shouldn't I buy a bunch of 22s? Well number one 22s aren't cheap anymore guys Have you noticed that? It's like right now if you want anything new coming out, it's up in the $300 and $400 range. It's like, my god, I can go buy an AK for that brace. There's some beautiful, in fact there's a beautiful copy of the MP44. Price came down on it a little bit here, but it's in .22. It looks exactly like an MP44. And it's a beautiful weapon. I think it's an excellent executed German copy in .22. Well, none of them are moving that hot the way they were, and like I said three years ago, hey, buy the .22 and use that for cross training because the ammunition was still available. Have you noticed I've not jumped on that recently? If you're going to spend the kind of money you're spending on some of these .22s now, and if you had the money to do it, the problem is available ammunition. You might as well go with another battle rifle and get more bang for the buck and put more bullets in the enemy because we're close to war. Hit them harder. Yeah, if you're going to go into training, now the next weapon for training, or the weapon for training now, is the Airsoft. The Airsoft is affordable. There's a lot. There's so many variations. You can buy every stinking version of the Air 15 ever perceived. Notice I didn't say conceived, I'm talking perceived. Anything you want to do is there. Everything in a shorty rifle to a full length 20 inch barrel or 22 inch barrel mimics of everything and in metal. So don't tell me you can't find a training gate that will match your needs. That's BS. So all you have to do is search it out, find it, the M14s, every copy of the FALs, HK91s, everything is out there. And all the variations in between. Now they've got Sten gun airsoft. It's built just like the regular Sten all metal. Whoa, dude. So you don't have to have one now constructed to be able to practice, practice, practice with one guys. Hey, that's kind of an idea. See how that works? You don't have to have the finished product out there on the table. You just need to have that airsoft weapon there so you can get the muscle memory. They make grease gun copies. They make everything. Seriously. So that's your training aid now. The .22s? If you had a .22 out there, it's a fighting rifle now. Or a game getter. But it's a fighting rifle. It goes to somebody who doesn't have something and it spits a lot of bullets down range. But they better be focusing on accuracy too and not just peppering someone. Keep that in mind until we see a relief and I don't see it on the horizon for 22 ammo I don't see burning any of that stuff up. Okay, it's just that simple now In the rifle category right now something that is out there still and apparently everybody's everybody I've seen this using them or liking them the M77 rifle it is a Again, there's a stop a rifle in 308 with a 20 inch barrel A little shorter than an SVD barrel, longer obviously than the standard 16.5 inch shorties they've been pushing out there. There are still some sagas in 16.5, some vapors in 16.5, and the vapors are as expensive as, well, as a PTR 91 now. So, there's a 16.5 inch barrel and I'm paying a higher price. I don't know. They're good rifles. There's nothing wrong with it. You just choose to buy it. Congratulations. The Sega's, well, there are not that many left and whatever is here pretty much has been in country now for a little bit. So the prices have crept up and are pretty well staying there. You might run into a shorter barrel model. If you can get anything in a longer barrel variant, that's the direction you want to go with .308 and with the main battle rifle cartridges. So this is Zastava's, JGSales.com, AIM Surplus had some, they sold out, I don't know if they're going to replace them or not. A couple of the companies have them, search for the best price, but remember, JGSales gives you three magazines with a weapon. Which is a big leg up now do I consider this a blaster? No, this is an MBR a main battle rifle. It's a placement rifle It's designed to hit a target once and kill it I don't need to spray and pray with this thing nor will I would I allow a man to do it if somebody wants to spray and pray in a combined arms team you start throwing a weapon towards them that you're gonna have more ammunition for and Again, they're just gonna pepper the area and mostly miss Well, give them something that is a lot less expensive that they mostly mess with. Keep that in mind. I don't want somebody wasting .308 ammunition or .30-06 ammunition or .50 cal ammo. Give them something that is a bean shooter that they can get a lot of ammo for. Again, the Sumis and 9mm are one of those solutions if you are in a fire team. You have somebody that looks like he really doesn't hit much but he is real fast on the trigger. Pop his arse behind something heavy, put a bipod on it and tell him to start controlling his fire a little bit but make him a squad gunner. Make him a suppression fire operator. That's what his job has become because you've evaluated the individual and he doesn't have the discipline to control himself. If he's not that kind of person, well, put him in the niche that fits. Okay? You're there making point, man, I guess. But, you know, again, he's had a shotgun. Anyway. But the fact of the matter is, again, as a team leader, as a platoon leader, evaluate your resources and allocate and re-engineer your firepower accordingly. But for me, firepower equates to hits. Not volume, hits. If you don't kill it, it's coming to kill you. You want to kill it first, farther, and you don't want any equity. Not on their part. You don't want to give them any opportunity. You want to make them die before they even realize that they should have been dying. or that the even could die. And again, none of this BS, I have to keep repeating this, we let one of them get away to tell everybody what happened. Oh BS, kill them all. Let nothing but the rumor of their destruction return home. Yeah, that thing is worse than knowing. Oh yeah, that way the next batch comes out and does the exact same thing again. See, there's a reason when you think about it, oh well, we let this one guy go back. No, no, we don't do that. I want it to be a total unfathomable, fearful mystery. When you wipe them out, you wipe them all out. If at all possible, bury them face down in pig feces, smear them with lard, stuff their face with lard, and bury them that way. Mark, that'll settle it real quick. We got George there. And by the way, it is the eve of Thanksgiving. Go ahead, George. Speaking about firepower, didn't Chief Messisola approach William Bradford because the priority of their firepower compared to what they had because they had a problem with a warring tribe? Right. They were looking for allies, stronger allies. All the tribes were. Let's remember that some of the places where everybody landed during the early stages of the colonial dropping of the indentured property here. Not that we were, we were indentured property mostly. When they dropped us off here, you might recall that several locations long before the white man got here, everybody had been killed on sight. Everybody remember that? Read the real stories and stop doing the selective liberal reading. In two or three instances, the war had gone badly and some of the tribes had been executed completely, destroyed. I'm sure there are a few survivors, women and sometimes children, but I'm going to tell you something. A lot of times they didn't let the children make it, guys. In fact, they didn't want the children or the men unless they needed some horsepower for slavery, for bitters, for torturing. In many cases, they would wipe out everyone. Mostly the survivors got tortured to death over a period of days. That was the glory of fighting in the Indian nations, the native territories from the East Coast all the way across the country. So, yeah, they were looking for the ability to knock down a greater range and a higher probability of kill. Doesn't mean you couldn't get killed with a bow and arrow. You could. I would point out something though, and even to the point of the American Revolution, Franklin discussed the idea of building crossbows in the United States even as late as the American War for Independence, simply because of lack of ammunition but also firepower, which is something most people don't talk about. It's like, well, If you take a look at it, crossbows have been perfected to the point of rifle potential two centuries, three centuries earlier and had been perfected to an ultimate science by the time 1775 rolls around. I guess I would point out, think about how that would have worked at say the Battle of Bunker Hill. So even as they did have muskets and musketoons and the equivalent to a blunderbuss back during the time of the early colonial, They also carried longbow and they carried crossbow. They combined the arms team as a matter of fact because powder was reliable if it was dry but not in the wet environment of the north and not in the swamps of the south either all the time. Mark, I remember seeing one of your early muskets where you had to have a little wick and somebody had to light it. A prison. Actually what you have is a match lock. Then you have different types of frizzen locks and remember that at one point you had in fact even a second operator actually lighting the fuse with a strike depending upon how far back you go through the guns. The match locks were a step up but again had issues under themselves. The flint lock was again the next step up in reliable combustion using the pan and using the strike system that they had on board. Again, every time you add something, you change the technology and you have to have other support. I know with the Blunderbuss and the old muskets, they didn't have a little musket ball. It was like a little mini cannonball I heard. We talked about this. Even up until the Austrian invention of the air rifle, iron bullet was very common. For instance, they went with an octagon barrel. and it didn't shoot a round ball or any kind of even round little cannonball, it actually just shot a shank of iron at you that was octagon around the outside about the length of your thumb and if it hit you, oh god, you imagine what that thing, oh yeah, that was going over and over and over and the moment it hit some tissue. So that had to be hellacious. Everybody goes, oh, we're the good old days and things really were like, we aren't as dangerous as like really. They'd come out of hacking and shopping with battle axes, broad swords, and all kinds of implements of destruction into another age where there was no Geneva Convention. Right. If you locked me or not. Don't worry, Ralph there got shot with that conical, what, 3 ounce piece of iron coming at him at about 600 feet per second. Went in his chest and came out his ear. Mark, you know the strangest thing? Somebody told me the reason why the English drive on the wrong side of the road. Because I heard it was because the Knights, that's how the Knights would sit there and try to chop each other's heads off. That's what your tradition of jousting, remember with the point of lance and how people were deployed. I don't know about that, that doesn't seem right because you see it still mostly right handed, left shield, right pike, right lance. I don't know about that. See because the shield is of course edged and secured so that it actually offers the first level of protection against the joust. But they still claim they drive on the right side of the road and we don't. Well, yeah, but there's just them in a few other places they still occupied or have money ties to and otherwise I think everybody copies us now. So you figure out who's right. That's a minor factor by comparison. Just look for the Mustangs and Corvettes. Yeah, that's right. Everybody else is wrong. Yeah, the other thing is Mark I'm looking for is smoking my turkey. I got Hickory, Apple and Conchips. with Live Oak. Although this is where a lot of the stuff goes, the farmers, if people are in apple orchards, do trimming every year. And a lot of that goes to chip, just for that reason. There's companies that buy from the apple orchards and the cherry orchards and such just for that purpose. Now, the same now with hickory, it's usually off the coal off of a lumber yard, where when they're doing hickory or whatever, they actually harvest off of the excess. They try not to use whole wood. They don't have to waste good lumber, especially high wood. Some people say you have to dip your turkey and brine before you smoke it. I'm not going to dip it in another. I'm just going to wash it out and put it on the grill. It should be fine. They're marinating and also using. I've grilled turkeys without soaking them. Yeah, yeah, I don't see a problem with that. That's a personal press. Again, different techniques. The thing is you're bringing the salt content up. Not where you cook most of it out in. We'll bleed out with the fats. But the thing is, as much as anything, is just come up with the flavor taste that you choose. Experiment. Like what you're doing right now. I think, especially with turkeys, we're going to have a lot of turkeys coming up on sale. And I can't stress enough, buy them. We are looking at a hard winter situation and it's no doubt the bad guys are ready to hit the switch on the economy. So anything you can get cheap and in quantity you need to be putting on the shelf. Look at it as short term insurance. Before I came out to do the program here tonight, I loaded up, actually whenever I'm on the air, just before I get on the air, I load the food dryer up with apples. I've got white delicious, well you know golden delicious, and I've got Macintosh right now in the machine and it's funny but even especially dried man the flavor range is phenomenal so you can actually get pretty good variety about anything you're doing if you do the fact again remember to keep a certain amount of those smoke chips if you like them start putting them as part of your inventory for reserve stocking because traditionally in the past everything was smoked possum raccoon bunny rabbit duck chicken, turkey, ham, beef, everything was smoked. He did, like I said, carp. Carp was brought into the United States as a food fish. Whoever gets smart and starts using carp again, well, they win. Okay? Because a lot of people, the game fish are not going to survive for very long. The fish that everybody's first thinking about, kind of like deer in the close populated areas, you're going to see people, well, the cats will disappear, the dogs will disappear, the deer will disappear. Well, carp are out there in force and they were brought in as a production fish, just like they are used in Asia and just like they are used in Europe. If you smoke them, the way the neighbor did salmon all the time because he used to fish for salmon. He would go up to Alaska and do some salmon fishing up there. He would bring it back and smoke it at home and he would bring back pounds and pounds and pounds. He did a bunch of carp because I speared a bunch of carp one day. And he said, give them to me. And he didn't say anything to anybody else. And he put those things on the smoker and brought them back out. And everybody knew he did salmon. And as long as you know what you're doing when you clean carp, which is a whole point, do a little research. You've got to get rid of that mud vane. That's like any animal. There's certain things you have to know how to process. Well, he had it all prepped, had it all smoked, brought it back out. Whoa! Everybody's eating the whole foil rolls of these over. Well, that's really great salmon. He goes, oh, that's not salmon. That's Mark's carp. Everybody's like, eww! It's like, oh, yeah! I've seen carp here on the river and I'm not exaggerating. Four and five feet long. You think they're a battleship just swam by? Yes, torpedoes. I've speared many. I've speared a lot of carp. We used to have divers come out and spear carp and they would have a pile. If nothing else, it would be fertilizer which is what we did with them because they killed so many. But they would thin them out so the game fish would have some room. Because carp of course being a feeder the way they are, they'll go through a nest and just carp up whatever is there. So they take up the eggs. And so you clear out the carp to bring up the other game fish. And that's something most people realize either, oh I'm not going to do anything with a carp. Well if nothing else, you do what the Indians used to do. Remember they had so many fish and they would cut all of the entrails and all the bone and debris off of the initial cleaning. When they would do their mass production they would put how many kernels of corn for every one fish carcass? Three. That was their fertilizer on the east coast where the fishing was so plentiful. Think about that. That's how they got the phenomenal corn production. They understood fertilizing. They didn't just drop corn in the ground. Remember that they used to talk about that in schools. That's all missing too. We don't want you to think about that one. You can't do it with our Monsanto or Monsucco. Anyway, we have a mountain of carp as tall as I am. Everybody would take what they wanted but we would take the excess. The ones that are really bad-shaping would put them in the garden as fertilizer. bury them about a foot down and everything would be on top of that as far as tomatoes. Oh man, you'd have tomatoes plants twice as tall. Well Mark, you know the thing is I heard too, out in the field to make sure the animals did not get to the seed. Well hell yeah! And think about it, there were a lot more animals. Predators are predators but raccoons and everything else. It's bad enough. I'm the one everybody, again, you need cats and dogs around. And even then they are not going to be able to stop everything. Raccoons are a major, major nuisance. That's why you learn to cook them because you are going to kill them. Raccoons will, in fact, here is one thing you remember about raccoons. And I have to stress this on here because this is something I have known for years and we have talked about it, we haven't talked about it recently. Raccoons are called wily creatures. There is a reason, if you set up a trap for a raccoon, If you screw up and use the wrong kind of trap in the wrong location where it would have worked if you had used it in the right place, once they see it, they never forget it. You will never be able to use that trap on those animals, that pack again. Because if one sees it, you tell me how they figure this out. All of them see it. They all know. We have done this. Trapping raccoons trying to get into the chickens. The old farmers, like you said, one of the guys set up regular paw traps prematurely. They set them off because they put them right out in the open and didn't properly conceal them. Lo and behold, after that you can lay them anywhere you want and even try to hide them. They never get caught by them. Then you'd have to spend the night out there and wait in the barn. They would come across the rafter and they would step right over the trap you left out in the open. That way you knew when they hopped over it and got in the other side they were in a clumsy spot and that's where you shot them. See how that works? So predators are all types of creatures. They are just scavengers or again foragers. Raccoons and possums are notorious for that. But let's not forget that back in that day and once again after a while all over this country. They've planted coyotes and wolves guys Well, there's a wolf hunt going on in Michigan now. Yeah, we everybody's had enough of them is what's happened Well, you know the only reason the only reason we got go ahead down here We got a bobcat problem in a panther problem. We got some big cats around here killing livestock Well, if they're killing livestock, they're probably going after the smaller stock, like either the calves or they're going after the small females or whatever. And or the infirm, which is typically what they do. Cats and wolves and coyotes all go for the outer end of the herd. They go for the slow. Again, they're going for the easy target, the easy food. Well, with bobcats, actually traditionally they used to always eat them. Americans just have a problem with that. It's like fox's cats or fox's favorite food too it seems. Yes, exactly. Well, foxes are danish. They will take over a den. Usually what they do is they'll take either a woodchuck or an area that's been excavated by another burrowing animal and they'll kill off whatever is there and eat it and then they'll take it over and develop it. So, fox dens are findable. I remember we had one big fox den south of Ann Arbor. They're like clockwork. I could go there and there's a spot. We never bothered them. Instead we just wait until they get away from where they were denned because you don't want them to relocate. And send them out every once in a while and you start losing things. The farmers start losing stuff in the area like, hey, we lost a cat or we lost something, like more chickens. Something came in low. Raccoons and possums and such will come in typically high. If it's coming in low, although it doesn't mean that the others won't either if they find a weak spot, but typically people are really bad about securing the overhead. The little furry creatures that can crawl that have four paws, they'll come from above. But the trotters, like the coyotes and the foxes, they've got to come in from the wire. They've got to come in from the nose under the fence or something like that. Again, you can pretty well predict how they are going to approach and you can even make situations to enhance them so that they feel confident about using that approach. That way you can kill off what you want to kill off. In fact, if you are trying to make fox pelts you don't necessarily want to kill all the foxes, but you do want to know where they are. Well, that runs into a different part of discipline also. We've talked about shooting coyotes. You know there is an alpha male coyote. Did you know there is an alpha female? Yeah, did you know that alpha female won't she's a real jealous with ditch. She won't let that male mate with other females She'll chase the other few showed chastise a male at any rate when the coyotes come through your area if you shoot the two big coyotes Odds are you've shot the alpha male and the alpha female now you've cut loose the breeding Because the other males the the the beta male will will mate with every female So you're going to have an explosion of coyotes unless you choose to discipline your shooting and shoot the small coyotes. Shoot the pups that are out at first. Now you think that they're just going to breed more. But that's true. You've taken away 6 or 8 or sometimes even 10 mouths to feed for a while. And if you shoot the alpha male, the alpha male will breed with every female. Then you're going to have more coyotes and you're going to know what to do with. Yes, exactly, which is what we're having in this area here. I mean, with regard to, well just in planning anyway. I mean we have at least seven different packs in this area right now. If you observe a pack moving into an area with your night vision, with your red light, coyotes don't seem to pay too much attention to red light for a little while. Eventually they get wise to it and if you turn on the red light across the field, the ones that have seen it before and watched other coyotes fall, they're going to want to leave because they aren't going to want to fall like the other coyotes have seen. But for a while you can get away with red light on a coyote, white light, and man they're gone. white light and they're gone. They don't want you to take one shot at them. Red light, they might ignore it. If the pack hasn't seen red light before, you might get a few coyote out of the pack the next night or two or three nights later with a red light too. But they're not dumb. Eventually you throw the red light, they'll think white light and they will start to leave again, which leads back over to the night vision. If you watch a group of coyotes walk into an area, If you observe it, you can pick out which are the bigger ones. You can pick out which generally are the leaders if you observe the pack long enough. Those who don't take any guff. The alpha male, female, they're going to beat down anything that talks back to them. They're going to beat down anything that nips them on the heel. If you leave them, granted they are a breeding stock right there, but if you take all of the pups, now the pups might not, you know, if they have been out in the world for a while, they will be two-thirds, three-quarters, five, you know, seven-eighths the size of the alpha male and female. But if you shoot the smaller ones, you won't have the explosion of coyotes that you would have if you killed the alpha female alone. Just a cautionary there. Again, the idea is paying attention to the cycle and activity by observing them. This is the basic rule of warfare, observe. But it's also the rule of anybody who is working in animal husbandry in their area to manage things. Remember, that's the whole idea, to manage. If you have enough guns, you guys, if there are three or four guns when a group of coyotes, a pack of coyotes, might be 10 or 12 coyotes walk in, it's hard for one person to decimate a pack of coyotes. but three or four guns on command on my mark and can literally lay down a group of coyotes before they leave the field. One of the things there too, Ed's got footage and this is, in fact we have it, part of it in one of the videos, though most people want to know what they're looking at, but he was setting up filming in the morning out here behind the property between here and the river. There is a gravel pit area that had been excavated over the last 20 years. It is a little bit, not very big guys. Just deep enough so I could stand in it. You could stand on the edge of it and look out around the terrain and all of the exposure is your head. It was even rounded inside and of course it was really disused for the most part and not really modified. He was out setting up footage to run some morning footage, just to do some dawn imagery. He looks and there is a coyote that is moving towards him. He looks again and there is more than one. In fact, it is one of the packs. They were coming straight towards him. When he made a noise, when he actually shouted at him the first time, they hesitated but they kept coming. They heard that it was a human voice. He has actually got it on. The camera is running. What is fascinating is it took three different times where he actually made noise before they turned as a pack. They already knew that he was there and they heard him, but they proceeded in motion towards him. That is something to take into consideration again. Coyotes are not as brave as wolves, but that is a matter of hunger. Our dogs too. That will take some of the fear of man out of them. Now a coyote, a female coyote in heat will run into the edge of town and drag two or three male dogs out with her and you know they're doomed. They're doomed, those male dogs. But once in a while you'll find a female coyote that is not hooked up with a pack. And not being concerned with feeding a pack, she'll find a male dog and breed with a male dog. They are going to look like coyotes but they have got some of those genes of the wildness suppressed in them. They will not be near as fearful of a human being. This is another reason we have talked about defense guns. That is why, like I said guys, I don't care what hand cannon you have. If things go the way everybody is discussing, you are not just going to have to worry about the two-legged predators. Again, as a case in point, years ago we weren't in any disaster situation in the 80s. We didn't have any wasteland across the state of Michigan. Hell, that was the high years, guys. Money up the geeky. People were spending money hand over fist even though they were lamenting they still had a hell of a lot more money then than they do now to spend. Over in Battle Creek, Michigan and over at Fort Custer on the edge of it, all around it there's state land and there's some federal land and then there's a fort itself, which is a big chunk of state land. You know federal land, but state run. Okay? It's a mix. Anyway, over there people were complaining because they were telling the DNR that there were these large packs of dogs. and up to 200 of them at a time. Now initially, and I remember this like it was yesterday, they poo pooed them and said, all that's crazy. You're probably exaggerating. All people just don't know and blah, blah, blah, until two DNR agents on the north side of Fort Custer over where the parkland is were outside and away from their blazer when all of a sudden, well, the wave of dogs came upon them. and the two DNR officers emptied every round they had while they were retreating. I mean everything they were carrying while they were retreating to their vehicle. Now all of a sudden, because this gets into all these cases we've seen, when you and I are at risk, your supposed employees will spit in your face. But when all of a sudden their little panties get in a bunch, now it's important. So then there was this news article, oh my goodness! Now before, even the news service had been told about these dogs and they reported it as, oh, it has been exaggerations. And oh, but there are some wild dogs out there, so you need to be careful, blah, blah, blah. Well, now all of a sudden there was a news article over there in the Battle Creek papers, wild pack of animal dogs tries to eat DNR officers. Oh, the outrage! And then all of a sudden it was open season. Now even trying to get rid of them with everybody now looking for them and everybody hunting them in an open season status, it took more than two years to kill off those packs. A lot. That's with everybody looking for them, guys. And that was in a civilized situation where everybody had lots of guns, lots of ammo, and lots of money. Go ahead, caller. Hey this is Jay Cease from Pennsylvania. It's funny you bring up the wild dog situation. I remember the first time I went deer hunting with my dad. He ended up having to shoot three wild dogs in our area or farm that had brought down a buck. That was the first time I had ever actually hunted. I actually shot a fox that morning and he ended up shooting three wild dogs. And again the whole idea is that he took that buck down because what they'll do is they won't stop. They'll tag team. They will run that buck just like a wolf or wolfback will. They will run that deer until his heart bursts. That's their plan. They run the deer until the deer literally fails in his chest in many cases. They just can't run no more. That's something where the dogs know how to work as a team also. In many cases, one will track and make noise while the others are moving to the next position to take over like a set of marathon runners. The weirdest thing I've ever seen, guys I'll tell you, God is my witness before my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I worked at a farm here in the northern part of Hilltop Farms, the little Dutch farm where I always talk about. I was on a tractor because I was moving some stuff out to the side of the farm. He had about 200 head of steer. Well, the steer, there was a hill down that was running away from me and rolling up and away, and there's a ridge to the north. And it's all far at cornfields with the tree lines running lengthwise over the hill. So there's this channeled area of about 40 acres. All of a sudden, all the steers that are down here in the valley next to the marsh line where I am with the tractor turn like infantry in a Civil War operation and line up. They'd line about 150 to 200 feet, well more than that, probably 300 feet wide, and about 4 to 5 cows in depth spread out. But they all turned and looked at the same direction. I didn't know what the hell they were doing. So I stop the tractor right there and I'm watching them and I look and they're all looking up the hill. Well guys over the hill come these three deer and they are just in this one big buck. They run down the hill, the cows make a hole. They turn left and right to make room for the deer. The deer run past the cows and stop with me right in front of them. I'm literally like, I might be 30 feet away. They ain't even thinking about me. Well, the deer stop and they're all panning and everything and the cows close ranks. And over the hill comes this five or six dog pack and they come over the ridge and they start to move down the hill. They're holding, he runs so fast it takes about 30 yards for him to stop. But they stop and they look and they see the cows and they're looking at the deer and they all turn and run. Now, when I saw that, that tells me number one, the deer had brains enough to know what to do, but how the cows figured this out, you tell me. And on top of that, the dogs obviously had run into them before because as soon as they saw what the cows were doing and the fact that the cows were on a line in a defense line, they turned around and booked. I've seen it personally, I've watched it, and again, the deer knew also not to run any farther. We have the analogy of that. Even a week. Exactly. And then, not of that, but again, these steers, they were field cattle. We had overhead cover for them in each of the fields. The farmer, an old Dutch farmer, knew how to put things upright. But when they were out there, they stayed out there year round, of course, as he was working them. They were range fed. They weren't stockyard penned. And his cattle were always in demand but they were bright. And they had more time to work as a herd. So it kind of reminds you too remember Musk Ox in Canada. You know guys, have you ever seen Musk Ox? They used to do documentaries. I haven't seen one in a long time. Musk Ox will do something similar where the males and the large females go to the perimeter The males to the outside, the females, they'll lager up like a wagon train with the calves and the small females in the middle. That's basically what this is like, except this was a fighting line, which is pretty impressive. Again, the more we're in the field, the more we'll see things. As things balance out, again, we're going to see an increase in feral creatures. We are going to see a slight increase and decrease in some areas depending upon who is eating what. But as more food stock becomes available, as the one animal goes out and becomes available, remember that is also going to be feeding other creatures that are more aggressive. So you are going to see a shift in the animal population in unique ways and we are going to have to manage that. We like to eat money but you don't want to kill all the bunnies. Not only that, but remember as a survival food you can't live just off rabbit meat. You will starve to death. I always remember that too. Max Velocity for his tactical writings is a must. I highly recommend these authors. But Ragnar Benson was one of the gurus, like I said, the top six gurus back in the day. And pretty much everything that was described all was direct application. It works guys. Take advantage. Find copies of the books. There were some audio tapes that he did too. Those are rare and few and far between. It's all on cassette. But guys if you can run into them make copies and share them with people. Anything else? If you, Ron, you mentioned that about the old timers. I see I had read something where a guy was talking about Mel Tappan and said about he didn't know anything, didn't know what he was talking about. The fact that he was an advocate of the 308 and the BM59-M1A was ridiculous. So, opinion is very, Max has been talking about recently, everybody's wrapped around the square. No. It's not. Well, here's the thing again, whoever was scooping up, open their face on that, the M1A. The M1A at the time, and even today, is as deadly today as it was when it was built as the M14 in 1956. You're just as dead. Go stand out there. In fact, here's the kicker. We've had plenty of time to perfect it to the point where those who are masters of the trade with that rifle will destroy you. Have you seen Jerry Rickolich's video? Oh no, please, is it on YouTube? Yeah, yeah. was something a little more ergonomic. The Jerry Mikulik channel and the M1 Grand shooting he does, oh and it was just recent, it is, you're talking reaction time, like I said .15 I think was the lowest one between rounds. Yeah, so in other words you're hitting it first time every time. Well, all of them that he's done with the speed shooting, again remember he did the Barrett 50. And everybody, you know guys, if you haven't watched any of these videos just as a demonstration, remember watch the shooter, watch the author. It's like watching Miami Vice. Shooting performance went up by a good 60% just because people were watching somebody do something right and tried to mimic it. Now if you mimic it and you know how to control your breathing and you actually pay attention to the author's operation, you will bring up your performance that much farther. and he's doing all the work and spending all the ammo, you're the one getting all the benefit. Once these cameras have started to roll, we start taking them seriously. Guys, think of what you can do if you really do use discipline and pay attention. These days, that 10 round magazine, a barret in that barret cost about 30 or 40 bucks in about how many seconds Mark? Oh yeah, 5.6 to 7 seconds. I mean he was engaging multiple targets. We're not talking, as was pointed out here, we're talking about doing a V-target engagement and hitting everything twice. You know, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, you know, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and everybody gets dead. Of course, each hit with a 50 cal was dead with one. It's the idea. You get at least a 300 on your PT test. You're impervious to anything below a 50 cal. Yeah. Or depending on your size, depending on whether you have level 3 or level 4 body fat, your modular food storage unit preparing for the apocalypse can also help you with it. I will say that is true of the sad but true. It's like sumo wrestlers. Remember guys, you've got the mass there to take and absorb the energy. It does really work that way to a degree. We're joking but we're not. That's a mobile modular food bird. 7 foot tall my hands are just shadowed on both my hands are as big as his one Put you know one on top of the other but his hand would bury just cover mine with no way to see the other you know any part of it this guy when he'd fire with a 308 weapon he didn't move and That guy's have half the battle is the is body motion, but when I'm right recoil Yeah, when you when you can recover from that recoil that much more efficiently. You're that much more deadly so he had a built-in archery recoil system and Exactly. Well again, the rifle looked like a carbine to him. The M14 looks like a carbine to him. Like he's carrying an M1 carbine, but again, it's the size of the gun. But that rifle fits him. So guys, that's one thing to think about. Main battle rifles are supremacy weapons. That's why we're focusing. Why do you think they blocked all those rifles from coming in from overseas, guys? All those American weapons that they were so fearful of that were 60 years old. Think about it. We are at the top end, holiday music coming up and this is the end until Friday guys, because tomorrow we're going to be off. Don, your number for night vision please. Hey that number is 231-796-8458-231-796-8458. God bless the republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the empire is on the run. But we are on the march both day and night. And whether you get a shot with a Hello Kitty M16 built by some guy for his girlfriend or that Barrett 50, remember it's going to be us pulling the trigger and hitting you the first time around and killing you dead, dead, dead. Because we plan on winning. Don, your number for night vision encloses, please. Hey, it's 231-796-8458 and enjoy your holiday tomorrow. It's one of the most American of holidays on this continent. God bless you. God bless you, Mark. God bless you, America. I Have fun in the sun, but be sun smart. Anyone can get skin cancer, even young people. One person dies of melanoma every hour in the US. You can save your life by using sunscreen, skipping tanny beds, seeking shade, and getting spots checked. This is a public service message brought to you by Mayo Clinic. in San Francisco.