November 15, 2013
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59m
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Mark Koernke discussed preparedness and quartermaster supplies on Friday, November 15, 2013, focusing on budget-friendly tactical gear sourcing from military surplus retailers like Maine Military and Gov Liquidation. He covered P-38 can openers, helmet covers, MOLLE gear, and water storage containers as essential barter items. The show included extensive discussion of deer hunting season opening in Michigan, corn burner heating systems, and greenhouse chicken integration for heat production. A caller from the Carolinas contributed information about European stick-burning stoves and cackle ovens as alternative heating methods.
- quartermaster friday
- tactical gear
- military surplus
- preparedness
- molle gear
- water storage
- barter
- deer hunting
- michigan
- corn burner
- heating systems
- greenhouse
- p-38 can opener
- maine military
- gov liquidation
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Live 365 Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm R. Krunke. one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and northeast. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com We're on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations and ultra-net technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're in the Hallmark network on an eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, Big Chugga, Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both of it through the fifth in our friends in the Civil War state of Wading to the left coast, we turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, and land in the smoky slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the mob bell, Gram and Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work, a million petticoat junction operators, the ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. It is the 15th of November. Fifth year of open Fabian, socialist and Soviet Socialist occupation of America with a K-2013 Old Earth calendar or Mayan. Crazy Town Crazy Town Calendar. That's right. Oh, the Crazy Town. For everybody out there, it is Friday, Quartermaster Friday by the way, Quarter Bastard. Yeah, that guy who always tried to sell ya stuff. Well, it didn't happen very often. But it's really strange guys, when I was in the military, I didn't know this for years but you know every time that they deliver a case of sea ratchet you know that they had a whole handful of P-38s in every case. Yeah, yeah Quartermaster usually got there first and scarfed all of those P-38s and then tried to sell them to you for 125 cents or you know, well five for a dollar if you wanted to get a bunch of them. Yeah, it was one of those dirty tricks. Oh buggers. Yeah, but it's just the way things work sometimes. So anyway, yes, if you were to discover a case of C-Rations, it's like, wow, wait a minute, these things are all through here. What the hell is it? You mean to say that we've been trying we've had a scrounge for these and we could have gotten one every time a case of C's came in. Oh man Yeah, I really peed you off after a while, but that's just the way things work. So we're gonna try to avoid that But a P38 can opener guys a real one if you got it don't lose them I have about a dozen spares that are on my rig at different points Make a great little emergency screwdriver obviously great for opening up cans of things and you are going to run into canned goods despite all the other report pouches and freeze dried food everything else about their cancer still out there in force and it's really funny i it's really obvious now uh... i got a bunch of mandarin oranges uh... cancer mandarin oranges for free the other day And you know the poor quality of the cans, because cans are degraded just like everything else in terms of how thick they are, man I'll tell you what, in these third world countries or second world countries where they're doing like the canned oranges and stuff, or were they doing even in the Caribbean because that's where most of them come from. They're not from the US anymore. Haven't been for a long time guys. But what's interesting is the gauge. It's like I was trying to... I was like, wait a minute, this is a real can. Oh my God, this is... I had to go break out the P-38 can opener because the other can opened up the electrical to work but I had a couple of them that were dinged and I wanted to use them right away. But the P-38 chewed through it first time every time. A real one. A regular American US military P-38 can opener from 1967. It's one I've carried forever. I have a whole bunch of them. Every time I collected them, I put them on something where I wouldn't lose them. Dog tags, etc. You know how it is. Anyway, P-38 can openers. I highly recommend if you can find a source. There's still some. Most of them are west of the Mississippi, but there's other people that actually have real P-38 can openers. You used to be able to buy them by the 500 count box from a company that made them out of Chicago. long gone and out of business for the last several years, but their inventory is still sitting there. I went to the warehouse. I looked through the windows. We saw this. Kind of sad. But anyway, I now probably scrapped out for all we know. Anyway, a bunch of other cool stuff out there that's on the list of things to do for Quarter Bastard slash Quartermaster Friday. And I would point out that Maine military, if you go to their clearance and closeout sections, I probably shouldn't mention this because there's things I want to get myself, but we'll bring up. Example, Desert Camel Kevlar helmet covers, guys. A 20 count pack for $15. Now, it's a three color desert, but we're into the tans and the brown and the white season. You're looking at the fall to winter coloration. Right now we're into the thatch brown gray, you know the tan and grays. And progressively we're going to get some snow on the ground and to be quite honest a better or a complimentary color to that are the desert colors. Using the desert and snow camo you get that ripple effect like you do with the grass patch down below and the snow cover over it. You get a lot of leak through on that with tall grass and frond strands. Marsh grass. Also again with the reeds and such so the colorations are pretty much workable. But 20 helmet covers for $15. That's pretty cheap and it won't stay that way because like everything else eventually surplus it'll run out But that is definitely worth picking up If you're you know again if you've already got some of the desert gear this will match out the rest of your equipment now Remember a helmet cover covers a multitude of sins Whatever helmet you choose to use that helmet cover can go on and all of a sudden all your helmets look the same. Oh Oh, that's for a spree decor. I'll pick up look you know try to square yourself away and look strapped So that is a solution. Also a couple other items here. For those of you who are picking up the clip-on bipods, the bipod, nylon pouch for $2. He's got a pile of those. Frank picked up from another company store that went out of business. Definitely something that you want to grab. Another thing in the camouflage item, face mask, extreme cold weather, two pack for $5. $2.50 for the cold weather winter snow cam. It's all white. It's got the bib, the face cover, and it's got the replacement dust mask type filters. Those are two sets, two complete sets for $5. That's $2.50 apiece. You can't beat them. I will bring up again the Swedish Mittens. Guys, if you don't have these, if you're looking at a 510 program, these are the cheapest solution for a hand covering of whatever kind. It's a complete shell, the outer shell with the liners. You get 10 pairs for $30, so $3 a pair. That is an excellent price. You can't beat it. Take advantage of it. The other thing again for general maintenance operations, stainless steel toothbrush, these are stainless steel utility work brushes, $30 for 100 pieces. Oh yeah, go through the clearance and close out. These guys buy stuff that's surplus from the gooberman and the prices are pretty cool. Can't really beat it for what it is. Can't shake a stick at it, kids. The other thing, MOLLE gear. There's a bunch of MOLLE woodland gear. I've been mentioning this for quite some time, but a lot of people have asked me about building up these ARs. Now they need web gear for their 510 program or even just for the troops that they've got, the people they've got. Well guys, the woodland MOLLE gear is reasonably priced. and is a good solution, is a simple solution to the problem. So I highly recommend you take the time to check that out and take a look at what they've got at Maine Military. He's got a whole section that's just molly gear but a lot of it is surplus stuff that has come through the system, it's presently available, it's reasonably priced, you're not going anything crazy or stupid as far as the cost. and you can afford to invest a little bit to get your stuff squared away as far as tactical gear goes. Take the time, look to see what they have and what it is that will match up with perhaps what you need for your system. You're going to have to make some personal choices there. The MOLLE Woodland gear is probably the cheapest right now for the price. I would point out too that the MOLLE digital stuff will blend right in with the Woodland standard stuff without any problem. And there's of course Marpad, etc. Well that's all in the same shade range and color range. So really not many people are going to notice the difference in the field and again it helps to break up the pattern in general. There are a number of different systems out there. So take a look at what you can find for the best price. I would remind you too that Bell Main has some pretty cool stuff. There's a bunch of other companies out there that have onesies or odds and ends stuff and they really don't want to keep it. Coleman's Military Surplus dot com. Forgive me, Coleman's dot com. But it's Coleman's Military Surplus. Guys, they have a lot of odds and ends stuff. You need to go through their pouches and go through their gear. Another place I have been mentioning is not the first place I go, but it's out there and it's govliquidation.com, their retail section. Go to www.govliquidation.com. Yes, Mark is slow here. I'm just making sure I put this in the chat room for our friends. So again, govliquidation.com. If you go to govliquidation.com, and then go to, if you'll notice there's a little section there with a pair of boots, it's Uncle Sam's retail outlet. Now the other stuff you have to bid on, okay, but it says For Surplus Power Shopping. Now read that, they're gonna charge you more for some stuff. Well, Uncle Sam's retail, oh by the way, look at that. They've got more stuff that people were foolish enough to donate to the government that's being sold out the back door. They've got, it looks like a 55, Well, it's got the bumper-ets. It's a Thunder Chicken. It's a 56 Thunder Chicken. No, a Thunderbird, right? That was almost my first car. My neighbor had one of those and tried to sell it to me for $1,300 back in the day, guys. Portole windows, the whole nine yards. I kicked myself in the rumpus. Of course, if I had it, I probably would have driven the snot out of it. But it was a beautiful little car. Somebody got it and put it in their collection. I would have probably been driving it around and put some miles on it but it was a beautiful car. Same thing you see in that picture but don't worry about that. That's a sidebar. Uncle Sam's Retail Outlet. Go to Uncle Sam's Retail Outlet. That's in the middle of that gov liquidation page. Now, when you get there, you know Mark doesn't like spending first price on anything. So they have two sections that are definitely worth looking at. There's a brown bar where it says Uncle Sam's Retail Outlet. And there's Home, New Arrivals, Shop by Brand, which is the last thing I do, Sale, and Clearance. Oh, there's also testimonials and blog and the other stuff. Ignore that. Look at that. They've got a Sale section. And if I tap the Sale section, I will find that there are things that are on sale and they are listed by their dollar amount from the cheapest to the most expensive. Well, they've got MOLLEGEAR and if you're really excited about ACU stuff, which I'm not, then there you go. But if you go right through there, they've got for instance triple mag pouches, They've got Molly DCU, let's see, one quart canteen covers. Now some of the stuff in the sale, oh it looks like you guys bought out a bunch of it, because the cheaper stuff is kind of gone. So let's go over to the clearance section. I love the clearance section for the same reason, I love the other. Anyway, oh yep, there we go, they've got the Molly II Alice clip adapters for 89 cents. Those are virtually new. They've got a bunch of other ACU and other pattern items and they have many pages of stuff. Hey, they've got brown underwear, underpants, three pairs, they're all brand new by the way, for $2.09, three pairs of underpants for $2.09 and it's a mil-spec contract. So if you go through this stuff you'll find there's a whole bunch of odds and ends and if you're careful about your shopping and you take advantage of the other clearances and close outs and final sales from these other businesses. You can get yourself a decent vest from one of the companies that really doesn't like molly gear but they ended up with a bunch of the vests. You can go to another and pick up the mag pouches, another and get the utility pouches, another and find the canteen pouches. And if you shop around between all the different points, you can actually put the MOLLE gear together for your 510 program pretty cheap. Now it's not the only way to go. I like the TA-90 and the Type 56 gear. And main military, if you go to LTR specials or if you go even to the Gov Liquidation, they've got mag pouches, butt packs, H suspenders, and Y suspenders for sale. And yes, you can also go into the tonnage category. You can go into the bidding on quantity. You'll find there's some pretty good prices for stuff there too, especially if you do in quantity because you've got a unit Here's probably the best example. They've got Alice LC to why harness suspenders in the desert Look like they're the three color desert and the retail cost is four dollars and seventy nine cents and These appear to be by what they're saying I believe that they're new and they have 207 of them available through Columbus, Ohio $4.79 a unit for again, Coyote Brown slash the three color desert camouflage Y suspenders. Hey, there you go. So if you want to do a brown out rig, you can do a whole brown out rig in TA90 gear. It will blend in that much better for the season. So a purely matter again of which direction you want to go and what your area of operation is like. In many cases your AO dictates that it might be just desirable to go browns and earth tones in that shade range and stick with it because of the area of activity and the type of terrain and the foliage and conditions that you live in. Common sense here guys, you can purchase and engineer your web gear to meet your battlefield, your area of operation. Another thing is, and I mentioned this the other day, is go to the recycling bins. A lot of stuff shows up there, especially for your 510 program. And or if you're talking about what we were seeing here, you know, 20 items that you need, you know, that you should have for bartering, you know, in the event things go to Helen Handcart. Guys, I've been getting, because I'm in the Ann Arbor area, more money than brains where we've got a college town nearby. People get goodies like the expensive hard shell screw lid canteen type water bottles all day. And in many cases they get dozens of these promotionals and they just throw them away. I've got 20 of them I just picked up the other day here. They're virtually brand new. Most of them are in the tactical gray and green shades. They're clear, but they're in the smoke color. Very nice. OD green lids. And a set of those is going to be somebody's canteen down the road. But the other thing is as pointed out in the barter and trade category is most people aren't thinking about water containers Now we've joked about this for years, but it's not a joke think about it You've watched these BS movies where the guy is he's got a trudge across that desert and he's trudging across and eventually his hat disappears and this mat disappears then you see that spot where he's taking a drink and there's a little bit of water and then there's that last shot where he takes the drink and There's this drip that touches his tongue and he looks at the canteen and he throws it aside. Now he doesn't have a canteen because he was stupid and he threw it away. He got to the middle of the desert and here's the oasis. Now wait a minute, he had about halfway through between starting on his trek and getting to the oasis, stupid threw his canteen down. Now, how did stupid get from the oasis to the other side of the desert which was the other half of the distance? Oh, you're not supposed to think about that. Just miraculously, his trudge across the second part of the desert wasn't as bad as his trudge across the first trudge. Wait a minute, it would be just as bad. That's stupid. Oh yeah, well you're not supposed to think about that because of the drama. In reality, guys, people in most situations in preparedness or survival situations aren't really much more intelligent when it comes to their activities if they're not thinking ahead. And that's one of the reasons it was pointed out that one of the top 20 items are water bottles, water storage containers of some kind. Somebody's going to need something to put water in. They're not thinking about it. Now, it doesn't mean people won't start scavenging. They will. And pop bottles are going to be the most common thing out there. But before that happens, if you're ahead of the curve and you already have them, somebody doesn't have to go somewhere and try to dig them out and burn calories to do it. Yeah, I've got water bottles. And I even have clean water here. We can put some water in the bottle and we'll trade you for something. What do you have to trade for a water bottle with some clean water in it? Now, don't throw that water bottle away like that idiot in the movie because if you bring the water bottle back, then all you have to do is trade for the water. Or we might even just give the water out for free because we have a way to pump it. And it's part of that courtesy thing where you do that to, again, create wind hearts and minds. But if you don't have a water bottle, well I am not doing this for the fun of it and I will trade you. Well, you have to trade for another one. You mean you threw your other water bottle away? Oh, I'll bet you watched all those stupid movies, Hollywood, you're in it generated, didn't you? And you drank that last drop and you looked disgustingly at your water bottle and you threw it along the road. Well, stupid people being what they are, you'll have to pay for another one. And I wouldn't be kind on that at all. Well, you mean you got rid of you through the way? Well, I'm not going to give you another one. What do you have to trade for another one, a new one? Well, I traded for the other one and then I just, you just deserve a second one. No, you don't. You know, people are going to have to be reminded they have to use their brain. And we're not talking about brain as in eat it as in zombies. We're talking about using your brain, not eating somebody's brain. Prior proper planning prevents piss poor performance and that's what we're trying to avoid so we're gonna make sure that everybody is plugged in accordingly and does what they're supposed to do right the first time rather than guessing how that sounds so remind them that yeah remember you bring the water bottle back we'll fill it up but if you don't have a water bottle you're gonna have to buy another one you have to trade for another one We're not just going to hand them out, it doesn't work that way. Now for the 510 program, yes, but if you're doing this as a general store thing or a barter thing, remember that you want to be stockpiling and putting on the shelf and having these ready to go. Those little SIPs, these SIP Sport containers are perfect for that guys and there's tons of them. When you go to church yard sales, usually there's, I grab every one that they give away, usually they're in the free boxes. Don't grab the pink and orange ones, although I guess you can give those to your people you don't like. I trade those to the people I don't like. For tactical purposes, anything and everything that's in the subdued like blacks, browns, greens, camouflage, whatever, or it's in the smoke colors, I grab all of those. And that way when the time comes, I have that many more containers and they're durable too. They're actually pretty well made. The more expensive ones are made by the special health water companies. That's the most common that we're seeing right now. Anyway, do we have a call or everything? Don't mean to leave anybody out and we are headed towards, oh my goodness, we're at the bottom of the hour so we should be hearing the music for the bottom of the hour break. For everybody out there, it is Friday. Oh, you know what I also forgot? It's, well, it's after dark now. It's the first day of Bambi season here in Michigan and the reckless destruction and slaughter of our enemy continued all day today. And I am sure that the casualties on the side of the Bambi Army have been extensive. Also remember, that means much good eating will be taking place all through the winter because of that. Deer jerky, deer steaks, deer roast, deer ribs. Oh dear, quite tasty to say the least. But we of course have the opening season hitting on Fridays, so Friday, Saturday, Sunday this is going to be the big weekend up north. A lot of the people again figure out, they are going to get in there one way or another, they will get their licks in, a lot of our people are from the upper parts of the state and that are listening you know I'm talking about guys that's you out there, but may already have your deer hanging or may have a series of watt tags or block tags from the farmers in the area. We've got a lot of farmers here that receive handfuls sometimes depending on what things look like. This year, pretty dense population, lots of food. They've been handing out big chunks of basically what our rodent slash pest licenses. And what happens is a lot of the guys go over to one of the farms. However many tags they have, they fill that out by clearing out a few of the deer. Then we start butchering with the reckless abandon also because well you got to start chopping them up. They only hang for a little while then we are already cleaving, cutting, hacking, chopping and drying. So I'm probably going to get a message on the phone here in the next day or two. I've got all the knives collected. I just haven't sharpened everything up. But when we go to town what we do is we don't stop until we get all the deer done that come in. We've gone up to 11 deer at a time, 13, 14 if we're lucky. It varies, but when we're doing that, I've got over 100 knives saved up. They're all sharpened up. When it's dulled out, it goes over in the dull box, the dull bin, the rubbermaid. They're scrubbing the stuff up. The girls are packaging it. We're bringing more deer in. They're getting chopped up, cleaved and decimated, turned into chunks and pieces. It just carries on until there ain't none left to cut up. No matter what time of the morning, to the AM hours. So that's what Bambi season is all about in Michigan. Now our Bambi season stretches out beyond, we have bow, then we go into rifle, we have muzzleloader, we've got that bow again beyond that. So it overlaps and fades back and forth. Most people going out for gun when gun is available. Lower part of the state, below Lansing, we have to use shotgun. North of that, we use rifle. So there's actually a demarcation line there. But a lot of guys have got such precision shotguns nowadays with scoped shotguns and with SABO slugs that they're using a shotgun pretty much up north too in many cases. So it just purely matter personal preference. Either way, Bambi shall be harvested and already is. Today is opening day in Michigan. We're at the bottom of the hour. We should hear the bottom of the hour music coming up here for the bottom of the hour break. I'm hoping that's a hint. You never know. Anyway, it is Friday. It has been medium temperatures. We do have some clouds rolling in. Little warning there for anybody who hasn't been outside yet today. We got some clouds rolling in. If you've got stuff that needs to be covered up, make sure that that's taken care of. We can shift right back into cold, bitter weather here real quick, guys. This is the transition season. Last couple of days temperatures have been up. I actually got some painting done. I did some major painting as a matter of fact. I didn't stop as long as the temperature is holding out. And I've got a whole bunch of stuff purtified but also weatherized for the season. The other thing there too is if you get free paint, remember it's use it or lose it. So take advantage of it and put a coat on everything. It will last longer, stay clean, it will be more durable in general, especially in public areas. We're looking at again a lot of other stuff going on that's going to start again breaking down the supply train, as we know this is Quartermaster Friday, and paints are one of those things that are going to disappear. Now I would point out that a lot of the paints that are out there guys are tactical colors because that's the in vogue shade range. So don't, if you see any exterior grade house paints and they're in the grays, the greens, the browns, the tans, If you keep saving them up, you've got a really nice camouflage pattern. I did a tactical table for operations. It's all done with junk cans of paint where there was a little bit of this, a little bit of that. Didn't use it all up. OD Green, Earth, you know, Russet, Earth Brown, Savannah Tan, break up camouflage pattern. And it was the price of just simply using an old brush and then applying the material accordingly. So it's kind of floppy and overlap. And it really turned out pretty good, I think. Even if all you do is just paint it one color and it's in a flat tactical color, it makes all the difference in the world just to subdue it and get it out of sight, out of mind. Hey, Dad. Using the paint up. Go ahead. We got Ed there. You asked for a break, right? I was in the other room working on the chair. Yep, I'll tell you what. We'll go to the bottom of the hour break then and we'll take a little rest here for the moment for our friends. You've got to go grab a cup of coffee or whatever. It is Friday. It's Quartermaster Friday. And we'll be back. Listen. It is a beautiful week. We really can't complain. It's a classic fall week for all practical purposes with nothing in the way of surprises. It's going to get cold again. Everybody be ready for that. Pay attention and don't get caught flat-footed. There's no reason to be. But I will remind you too that if we're lucky things will hold out weather wise but bring your cold weather gear with you no matter where you're deploying guys. We're also deploying as combat infantry in this day and age. That means full combat load, that means weapons and ammunition. And I don't want to hear about anybody, whoa I didn't really think about it, and then getting caught in a situation that escalates. That shouldn't happen. That is unacceptable. Everybody knows what the SOP is now. Act accordingly. Those people are going to be at Camp Nagy-Hitcham. You're going to have a treat tomorrow. Actually, well, you're going to be there in the morning. If you're there by midday, you're going to miss it. We have part of one of the artillery batteries doing demonstrations. They were at Nagi Hicham today. They will be at the Okemah Ranges tomorrow from noon until 2. Then they'll be in the field for other training operations. So again, if you're going to be on site, make sure you get there early if at all possible. Remember, follow road instructions for security operations with regard to our MPs. We're parking vehicles tactically. There is no allowance for anybody being in a rush on that. You are to follow through on standard operating procedure, tactically deployed for combat action. You will follow the instructions and will park where you're told to accordingly. People who have to come and go are going to be in the normal parking areas. We don't want to mess up any of the other areas or permanently damage them. There's a reason for doing what we do. There's method to the madness. follow the instructions of the individuals who are the custodians of the facilities. They know what they're doing and they understand why they're doing it, why we've established this. Also, let's see, way out west, a couple of different companies, ApexGunParts.com, ApexGunParts.com. Guys, they still have a little bit of the body armor left, but not very much. But I understand you guys have been pretty well cleaning them out. However, if you do want to pick up undercover or an overt tactical vest that's with fixed pockets. Basically it's the traditional type of SWAT team armor. This was used for apparently Puerto Rico. A lot of this stuff is virtually new. I've now seen I'd say about two dozen sets of this stuff and everything that I've seen so far looks new. They're saying it's like used but again I know how that works. Again, they're qualifying the material. But guys, most every set that I've seen, most everybody has gotten a set of the undercover armor and they've gotten the over vest, the outer black vest. Now these are full wrap around panels. So they have side armor, front and back panels and they're very well made. They're standard US companies. If you take the time and go to Apex Gun Parts, go to their tactical section, it's the last pages of their tactical accoutrements, they still have the vest listed. And they do have women's body armor. For the girls out there that are listening, yes, they have the upper front plates, the way they're supposed to be shaped. And they do have them in sizes. So yes, we can accommodate pretty much, well not we, they can accommodate pretty much everybody. But the ladies body armor is available. So you can upgrade accordingly. For those of you who don't have it, the armor is so cheap there's no reason not to. Seriously. So take the time, check it out. Go to ApexGunParts.com ApexGunParts.com ApexGunParts.com I also did not look at center fire systems guys, they always have a sale for the weekend. It's been a mix. There's not a whole lot that's been new that's been coming out. There's not a whole lot in the way of additional material that's really hyper exciting in the inventory right now if you get my drift. So I would recommend that for everybody out there, uh oh, let's see if we got something going on with the system here now. That's rather interesting. Anyway, for everybody out there, if you get a chance, take the time and check out the web page. Remember that there is a wide range of items that are in their miscellaneous section for CenterfireSystems.com. Center fire systems dot-com center fire systems dot-com Well what they're listing on the main page. They're showing the Polish pepe's 43 760 by 25 kits again. They've got them for $50. They've actually been at that so that's not really a major change They've got the Colt 223 1960 70s era vintage starter repair kit That's basically $300 for most of an AR-15, M16 without the barrel and without the lower receiver, which you won't get anyway. Don't expect the lower receiver to be there. But again, $300 for the AR-15 parts kit. Probably the best thing is the peppish kit there, the cold air 15 parts kits up and down as far as condition goes. I'm not excited about those. The only other thing they do have 762 by 39, 123 grain FMJ, 700 rounds in a sealed tin for $169.99. So again, they do have some 762 by 39. Everybody's been getting some odds and ends stuff in in terms of ammunition. Don't be surprised at how little we actually find. It's just the way things have been going. A lot of the stuff that they've been getting in, they're doling it out in the smallest increments. So that's another issue too. There's a reason for that. There's only so much out there, and they're trying to figure out how to stretch the rubber band. Pull that penny apart. The two guys by his pulling the penny apart and turning it into copper wire. I've got a wire. Well, no, it was a penny, but now it's a wire because they just won't let go, and they keep pulling. Well, same is true of the ammunition situation. 9mm and 45mm goes personal choice there. Most of it is out of stock anyway, but what I can see. So I don't think we'd be too surprised at that. Yeah, back orders are being accepted. But for the most part, again, there is some 7.62x39, there is some .223. But as far as a lot of the other ammunition goes in terms of the standard pistol calibers, as soon as people are finding it, they're cleaning it out. Any of the stuff that's inexpensive. I'm not saying cheap because there's nothing cheap. But less expensive stuff is going pretty fast and that's just the way things are. It's going to be that way with everybody pretty well taking the same attitude you are. The more people that are listening, the more people are going to be competing for whatever is still in the machine out there. So I appreciate that. Also for our friends in the chat room, a reminder. and I do appreciate that we've got the of course the uh... jg sales for the m seventy sevens they've got three mags they're running six hundred dollars apiece they're not the only company that has a but that's the best price considering to have three mags with the rifle uh... there are other companies offering the rifle for last but by the time you're done it you know like twenty five and thirty dollars for the magazine you're right back up to the price you know about six twenty six you know thirty well JG sales has the rifle with three mags for $600 which it's about average so it's a pretty reasonable price. They do have them in stock. They're 7.62x51 NATO. Again, they are a decent rifle in general. We've seen some pretty good reviews on them so far. I haven't seen anything crooked with regard to issues with the rifle. It's a 20 inch barrel. It has a gas actuator. It has gas control on board. It's a carbon steel barrel. It's not chromed, but it's again a good system in general. It's an RPK slash SVD type receiver. And I like the way the stock is built. I really, really do. It's one of the few things about the stock itself. It's a thumb hole system. I prefer those. Only because experience with the AK in the field, the beaver board, everybody thinks they want the beaver board system, where you just have the stock separate, the pistol grip separate. Well, I've got two boxes full of busted stocks. And it's not that it happens all the time. And we have AKs that are built both ways. I've got them fixed with this traditional stock. or I've got them with the thumbhole stocks that are out there and around. I mean they're readily available at different sites we haven't stored. But I will remind you that that thumbhole stock is sturdier, it's stronger in general, it creates a much more stable platform. But it also is stronger when it comes to beating into the field too. Because that second station, that bar coming across from the stock to the pistol grip, makes for a second reinforcing point and that strengthens the buttstock. Just something to think about in the long run and it's something we've proven out time and again. What's funny is back years ago guys, we were going to build and pay a hundred dollars. We actually were going to do laminate stocks here in Michigan in the thumbhole stock configuration to make an SVD type stock. And then all of a sudden because he got all anal retentive about, we were laughing at our arse off, the government forced the companies to bring in the rifles with the thumb hole stock, so we didn't have to do it. Which saved us the effort we were actually getting into to develop our own stocks. They built the basics for us and then we tuned them up accordingly. Wow, so we laughed because it was like cool now and now we got some a little stronger You want to butt stroke somebody that crossbar from the pistol grip crossover to the main stock? Means that you got a nice cross area second section plus the base of that pistol grip becomes a really good spike To smack somebody in the head crush the temple turn the whole thing all the the the teeth area into a mouthful of chicklets Whatever you had to do So, again, it's kind of funny and it's why they got frustrated. Because we weren't telling everybody, man, we have a right to have that pistol grip. It's like, no, keep doing that. The weapon's actually more stable, it's stronger, it's better for brawling. Well then what do you do because nobody is getting angst about it. In fact just to reverse, when people were taking those stocks off their rifles we were getting them for free or for $5 a piece and $2 a piece and throwing them on other weapons and so all of ours are heavily upgraded and again built to our spec for our personal needs. hmm that's when they said oh what the heck you can just let them back in let them do it it's okay why you know what it comes down to is they realize that it wasn't going to create any special issue like it did back in 1977 when they were screwing everybody with the ar-15s yeah we all remembered that so instead of trying to angst on it embrace and run with the ball and take advantage and use it against them ha ha ha Anyway, I tell you what, I heard another thing. Do we have a caller? And I don't want to leave anybody out because I know how that is. This is Joe from the Carolinas. Go ahead, Joe. Jump in there, please. Mark, this is terribly off topic. It's based on something you were talking about last hour with the... No, go right ahead. Go right ahead. Oh, thank you. It's in regards to the corn burner. Oh, yes. So, you know, the corn burner, guys, is based off of an even more ancient technology that originates in Germany and Austria. The Kackel oven. And this was basically a very small oven with the heat. And it would use a lot of tubing and very small bundles of twigs that you could actually harvest from coppice trees that had been cut down. We harvest those little twigs and burn them. And a cackle oven is something that we can look at. The other thing is, Mark, I love the idea of heating anything with cherry pits or corn or whatever. I think that's a great idea. And then finally, there's also the component that we would call it and are allowed to have chicken. Let's combine both of those with a chicken heated greenhouse. So what we do, we'll pan with chicken wire or hardware cloth inside our greenhouse so we can move the chickens in for a little while and move them wherever we need to from there. the chickens have their own heat source which is their bodies, body heat. If we run out of propane, the other option we have is to heat our greenhouses with our chickens. And that's all I had, Mark. Actually, that's a good idea. One of the things you can do if you have steps like what we do with ours, we're using the PVC greenhouse where we built it. On the south face side, because of the arch, I made a series of steps. so that we have shelves for the plants to sit on. But the area below that, which of course is out of the sun, is actually where you could put your chicken roosts. And the neat thing is, like you said, the chicken heat, the heat from the chickens is going to be contained in that area and built up. And that in turn is going to commute to the rest of the greenhouse. Plus a couple of light bulbs. Yours usually you want light bulbs in there to keep the rodents down. And a couple of 50 or 60 watt light bulbs guys do a lot when the room is sealed combined with the birds. It actually is pretty comfortable. Of course, now you've got that unique chicken smell. But remember, the greenhouse is set up so that you can actually put trays underneath the chicken stools, the chicken rests. And every once in a while, just take that all out and dump that right into the garden or put it right into the compost. So, one way or another, nothing goes to waste, everything is cycled into food production. And let's not forget the cackleberries that come from the butt of the chicken do. Cackleberries for the cackle oven. That's right. The other thing about the corn burner, I can't emphasize enough, we cannot complain. I'm not going to toss it out. First of all, it's a nice piece of machinery. But the particular oxidation where it took place We were doing maintenance on it and Nancy noticed it first and it's like quick because she was up there back coming out the the individual heat tubes and The first hole that we found was about the size of the end of your little finger But then there were others that we can see and I'm gonna have to disassemble the unit Next year and then take a look at it and see what we can do to repair I'll probably just weld a plate right over and then I'm gonna have to replace one or two tubes and But, considering how many years, non-stop service, mid-grade steel, nothing real fancy. The design is very, very simple. This was one of the first of the corn burners that actually was out there. First design, and it has served very well. I can't complain about it for the money that was spent. The machine did exactly what it was supposed to do. The new ones, the next generation's up. are multi-fuel and that's a big plus. I still think corn is the best of the bunch. We've used wood with the cherry pits in the wood. That's all stuff that's tossed out. The pellets are specialized because they're made from compost, from broken down wood pallets and things that companies have collected, and from construction site wood. It's made from everything. Anyway, the wood pellets work well, but they produce a different kind of ash at the end of the cycle. The corn and the soybeans produce a very compact and small amount of material waste and it's actually almost in a briquette form. You can literally pull it out and it's one chunk. Now when you get it outside it'll just break right up in your hands if you want to but for getting it out of the machine and getting rid of it, the corn and the other organics like that, the pits or the legumes like using the soybeans, Those are probably the most convenient and the most reasonably priced because you can go grade two guys. You don't have you don't go grade one. You go grade two. Or you go again, specifically like we have pen acres here in Michigan. Pen acres is one of the pioneers in the area for the corn burners and they specialize in them. If you're looking for a corn burner and you're in southern Michigan or northern Ohio, find pen acres, talk to them. They've got all the material on the shelf. They market them themselves and they sell the corn. And they have monster elevators. So they're really cool people to deal with. Again, that's pen acres. I appreciate the input. You know the interesting thing about the sticks, Joe? Sure. One of the reasons is that, remember in Europe traditionally, they weren't allowed to harvest the trees, but they could take anything from the ground that drops from the trees. And that's why the stick burners like that were built. In fact, you'll see a picture. It used to be, remember, I think it was either, what was it, it was either lead zeppelin I think it was Led Zeppelin. They had the picture, it's an old picture from Europe showing a guy with a whole bunch. He's got a big faggot, a big bundle of sticks on his back. Well he wasn't collecting those for the fun of it listeners. If you were a person you get out there first thing in the morning, whoever got out there first got the most sticks. Then what progressively they would do is either A, they were using them for heat, or they would collect them and then they would market them and take them down to somebody who needed the wood, the burnable material for some other process. And so that's why again if it hit the ground it dropped naturally you couldn't you know don't chop from the trees because otherwise we won't have any trees. But anything that came down from above could be picked up so everybody was usually out there first thing in the morning scavenging for the sticks and then that's what you'd heat for the evening. That's right and we're talking about miniature firewood folks. Yeah like the again there was the old joke about the white man when he goes into the forest builds a fire big enough to heat the whole woods. Whereas the Native Americans would of course use a blanket system and a small fire and just heat themselves. So just something to think about there. Don't worry, we were the same way in Europe. Everybody was fighting for the same resources. After a while, sparrows looked pretty tasty. Everybody forgets that's how they ended up here. They were stringy but they give us protein. That's right. That's why in fact I'll give you an example. Everybody goes, oh Mark, that's crazy guys. If you enjoy classic art, you may notice many of the different images of like kitchens or kitchen food to include fruits. If you look on the wall, you'll notice a whole castle of hanging little sparrows there. Well, they weren't there for the fun of it. That was tonight's meal. One little chicken at a time. One tiny little chicken sparrow. Joe, I'll tell you what, you close with me, God bless the republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the empire is on the run. And we are on the march both day and night. Hoorah! And we'll be of course heating our homes with whatever we can find and throw another shank of black uniform moose into the fireplace. Oh, it stinks! Oh, terrible! Anyway guys, we got Ed taken over here. So everybody stay tuned if you'd like to call in. 712-4320900. The room number is 957. 464 and pound sign. We'll be back with me well more live radio with Ed and militia town hall right here on LTR. Bye-bye who feels that taking life is wrong. But I failed to understand the man that wants to bend his arm in Washington. This next announcement is serious news and you won't hear it in the mainstream media. We are living in an age full of catastrophic events and it's getting worse. But before we go on, remember this website, highgrounds.us. 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