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I had a dream the other night that Well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors. So their children and people, your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Both sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torture freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for once he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He'd fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free one two three one two and good Afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report of our kirky. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and north. Well ladies and gentlemen you are listening to us on liberty to radio dot four m g dot com run a minute and micro station cb base stations and ultra net technologies east and west of the mississippi along with alaska or in the homework network on eastern seaboard from the top of me to the bottom of four from the bottom of four across the ark of the gulf of mexico headed louisiana mississippi texas oklahoma big chunk of arsco hobo to wyoming to include both the third fifth and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado. Well, in other words, the recall state, but only a breath away from a shooting war and you all know. Anyway, waving to the left coast, we turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, and land in the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge with the restaurant crews, grandma teams, OK teams, and the Montbell Grandma Consortium of retired telecommunications workers, branch of the Golden Spike. Many hands make the light work, a million petticoat junctions, the ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well, it might have Don with us there. And I'm hoping that might be the case. And unmute Don. Well, OK. Now just patient listeners. Not a problem there. If everybody stay right where you are. And today's date is, I heard another dang. Do we have Don with us there now? Nope, well it is the 13th of November. It is the fifth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K-2013 old earth calendar or Mayan crazy town. Crazy Town calendar. We're almost up to the anniversary for that too. Doom destruction one year later. And we're still here. Of course that doesn't mean we could have been out by a week's day, maybe a couple months, maybe a year, decade, half century, century, who knows. But anyway, for all of you Christians practicing as Mayans, shaylaying, and we'll wait and see what happens. We'll hold our breath, but you never know. You just never know. But that's true in general of everything. Anyway, it is a beautiful clear and it's been a medium fall day. It's warm enough that it's nice to work outside, but the wind will catch you. So you've got to make sure you're bundled up. And don't worry, when the sun disappears, temperature's going to disappear with it. Ooh, doggy. You all know that's coming. So pay attention to the environment. It's going to do nothing but get colder out there because it is the season. And we should expect that. It is, by the way, weapons Wednesday. and for all of our friends out there listening, one of the rifles we're looking at, it's not that the price came down on this weapon really, although it has come down a little bit, but it is Weapons Wednesday, we're looking for solutions. In the .308 battle rifle range, the PTR-91 would be my first choice if there's enough available. The problem is availability, the other half is tagging you for the price. I understand how that works. Well, there are a number of M77 rifles out there. Now the VEPR was one weapon that was available. First the Sega, and the Sega was cheap. The Sega was a fine and inexpensive weapon for a very high quality end product. And I still, you got a Sega, don't you get rid of it, don't let anybody talk you out of it. Forget that BS. And don't spend any more money than you already have except on mags and ammo for those rifles. More mags, more ammo. More mags, more ammo. More mags, more ammo. The SEGA is a Russian made from the factory rifle. It's as good as you're going to get and it is the real thing. Not close to the real thing. It is the real thing. So don't get rid of them. In fact, you can smile because you probably bought them back when they were anywhere from $200 to $260, $270. I don't even even paid $350. Look at the price of a Sega now. And again, most of the rifles out there are not being manufactured. They might have parts from a certain country, but they're not manufactured from that nation of origin. Just the parts and then the receiver and barrel and other stuff are built here. Not bad, but again, Russian AKs, top of the line in terms of present production that we can access. We can't get hold of Velmais, so I'm not going to worry about it. But I would remind you guys that there's only so much time left to get everything, all your I's dotted, all your T's crossed, and then get on with the mission. Well, the M77's, their Zastava rifles, very nice weapons. But I understand the .308 rifle that's out right now, the M77, has a 20 inch barrel. It has a 10 round magazine capacity. It's an RPK slash SVD receiver. This is a reinforced receiver to begin with and it's in .308, 762 NATO. What I like about it is the barrel length. It's not a 16 incher, it's a 20 incher approximately. It's supposed to be 19.75 inches long. I can live with that one. The big thing is I've got more barrels, so I've got less burned powder. Now if I take a Tapco or an Aftermarket threaded flash hider for that rifle and throw it on the end, I'll get more extension, plus I've got the basket for it. By the way, Apex Gunparts has a long basket flash hider available. It's apparently either Polish or Romanian, but, no, if we're going to be Polish or Bulgarian, I've got to double check that. But they have them, they're factory, and the long Dragunov or M60 type flash hider, basket flash hider. The cool thing is they are available, they are already set up for the Russian thread and they are already screwed right on. Now, pick whatever one you want. You want to go to AK-74 or find by me. In .30 caliber of course. Remember it is .545. It is not going to be made up to .308. You all remember that. I hope you all remember that real deep. Whatever you do. Remember this is a .30 caliber rifle. 7.62x51 NATO. There we go. Mark will get it right. The best buy is JG Sales, at least for having them in stock and coming with spare mags. The rifles that are available through JGSales.com are the standard M77. They're .308 20 inch barrel, but they come with three magazines, and that's a big plus. Now the magazine conversion project for HK91 mags to the Valmei and slash the .308 rifle AKs is in motion. The guys are going to actually have to now find it M77, but we're going to confirm whether or not those will lock right into place. And I'm figuring they probably will. Once we know that, we can plug the rest of the program in from there. We'll let you know how to do it. We're going to be doing a video. We already have the map outs with the specs. Again, the $2 HK91 mags can be switched over to AK308 mags if the rifle has the proper spec and dimension for the magazine well. We modify the mags a little bit, but not very much as far as their girth and their length. Front to back, side to side. The big thing is we have to add a tab slash a lock point for the AK-type mag system. and a notch is machined or can be dremmel tooled into the front of the mag so that it catches. Now this sounds a little more complicated than it really is because there's lots of meat available on the HK91 magazines. Velmae already did this and what we're patterning this off is a Velmae 308 magazine that was already done using an HK91 mag and it came from Velmae that way from Finland. Back when they brought in the RPKs in .308. A lot of our guys have those, have more than one or two of them. And they are, again, they are premium rifles for the price. These weapons really can't beat them. So definitely worthwhile. And as far as the performance goes for the weapons themselves, Again, there are several evaluations out there. The particular M77 does have a gas deflection control system so that you can manipulate how much gas you are going to push through the system depending on how dirty it is. It is not so much variations in ammo as it is crud. The AK is very forgiving to begin with. It is a solution. It is $600 from JGSales.com, $600 from JG Sales, and $620 from AIM surplus. They have sold a few of what they had left. Apparently they may sell a lot of them if they haven't sold out of them. Today we will see what happens. And of course there are a couple of other companies out there that should be carrying them. It's not like they're just, you know, they're not orphaned to just one company, but only a handful are carrying the 308. It's the less common of the bunch. Anyway, let's double check. Do we have Don with us yet? I heard another bell. And maybe do we have Don with us now? Okay, and a one, and a two, and a... Okay, well, apparently we don't. So, other projects going on right now. Well, we're looking for mags for those M77s. I have not seen any spares that are just readily rolling around, but we'll see what we can do to find out about more as quickly as we can and access them for obviously our people that are listening. So if they really, really, really want to go to that system, they have the ability to keep it fed on top of everything else. That's something we are interested in doing, obviously. So again, JGSales.com, JGSales.com, our friends that are in the chatroom can post that so that everybody's up to speed on the site. JGSales also has had some pretty good buys on shot shells. They haven't run out yet that I know of. Doesn't mean they can't run out. We know that they have. Several of the companies have at different times. But with regard to the, well, I'm looking right now and I do not. They should still have them in stock. As far as I know, boy I'll tell you what, we mentioned this the other day to somebody and I think they might have jumped on it right away. Anyway, again that is www.jgsales.com. Standard .308 NATO ammunition slash 7.62x51 NATO is your choice. Again, it's a matter of you've already decided to commit to a round. And since we know that's what you're going to do, then we'll assume that you already know you're going to be buying .308 ammunition. The issue is mags and the weapon. Sega's are gone. Vepers are sky high. And these for the moment are still affordable but again will probably change progressively in price as things change in terms of interest. The PTR-91s are hovering a little under $1,000 for the basic PTR-1 model, a little over for the more sophisticated variants. And of course there are some PTR-91s that have even been done in 7.62x39. So that you have the option to go with the AK round if you want to. But that means you're using another magazine and the Bulgarian is supposed to work well in the rifle, as far as we know. More on that as we develop information on which mag is probably your first best choice. The Bulgarians seem to be the best choice for the 7.62x39 PTRs. Anyway, other stuff. uh... as far as three-way ammunition goes to companies ran out completely today i have not checked uh... amal man dot com and again i usually can use them as a uh... litmus they have they're very expensive ammunition which everybody's got some very expensive ammunition even there other ammunition is what we call less expensive isn't it guys w w w dot amo man dot com. Maybe I can get it right this time for our friends in the chat room. There we go. So that way everybody can run through it. Now, the preview partisan ammunition, as I've pointed out, is an excellent choice. Price is going to be up and down. That's purely a matter of what can you afford. PMC ammunition is comparable to pretty much everybody else out there. We've got to remember, PMC is mil-spec ammunition. If it's ball, They do make every other caliber that exists out there. The PMC was doing this years ago when they first came on the market. 6.5 Dutch, 6.5 Swede, 6.5 Carcano, 7.7 French, 7.5 French, 7.5 Swedish. are free me up on mark seven point five with their real market right there along with the jet browns etcetera etcetera so that's where the seven point seven anyway uh... wide range in the uh... you know pmc ammunition is out there but as far as how much is coming to the country not so much like they used to. Preview Partisan has filled the niche most recently but how long that's going to last nobody knows there's not been as much Preview Partisan coming in to replace what's been sold however those of you who have picked it up have picked up a premium grade ammunition you've done well And if you're looking for, again, especially unique rounds, 38 Smith and Wesson, a preview partisan, bought in a bunch of that. And the stuff functions flawlessly with any of the revolvers it's used in. Now, PMC, 500 rounds of PMC. Now, we've got to remember, amoman.com includes delivery. So 500 rounds of PMC, 147 grain FMJ is $349 per case. of 500 rounds. There is also some preview partisan in the thousand round increments and that is through amoman.com 762x51 NATO and as it stands, see what they have left, they've got 31 cases so they have 31,000 rounds in stock that's 31 cases, that's 31 customers if only one person buys a case each. Now the preview partisan white box is military ball in the military ball box. Again, it's designed for the cartridge pouches. As they were originally built when they were doing 8mm, the 308 works the same way, same size container. And again, the stuff is mil-spec across the board. I wouldn't have any problem with preview partisan. I can put that down range all day and dot your I and cross your T on that one real quick. So there are two reasonably priced, I'll bet. No, it's not like the good old days. The prices are still, shall we say, unique. $635, postage paid for 1,000 rounds. So as it stands, about the same price, you're looking at, let's see, $700, $698 for 1,000 rounds. of the PMC or $635 for a thousand rounds of the flinchchester preview partisan personally I take the preview first but if you don't have that much that you can spend now are looking at six hundred thirty five dollars that I would go the I would go the PMC because again for the incrementally you can at least get it in five hundred round blocks so you're not spending as much money you're looking just at cash outlay Again, all this will work in the Vepers, the Velmais, the SAGAs, it will work in all of the Zastava rifles, it will work in the Dragunov variants no matter what they are, the Romanian PSL rifles. It will work in any of the FALs, the HK91s and the M14s. So I wouldn't worry about that with any of this ball ammo. The big thing is again knowing where it prints and again being consistent in terms of what you use. We're almost to the bottom of the hour break here. Excuse me, I got something caught there. Anyway, for everybody out there we are going to go to the bottom of the hour break here in a minute or two. Meanwhile, if you would like to donate to Liberty Tree Radio, you can go to www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. It is Weapons Wednesday so again if you go to our donate key right in the middle of the brown line there at the top of the page you will find what you need to link up to. Liberty Tree Radio to donate and take your pick. We have a couple of voters that came in yesterday. Actually, I haven't even gone through them yet. Forgive me, again, through the PayPal. But I will review those, in fact, probably in the Hour Infinite Program. So, Mike, we'll be back in two minutes here. It is Weapons Wednesday. the right. You may ride a good lead speed, you may know it's turn to master. You forward march with speed, but you'll learn the back much faster when you meet our mountain boys. And the leader John Stark, glad you make what little noise and always hit the mark. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle, in our hands will prove no frightful. Maggie no graves at home, back across the briny water And hidden he must come, like well it's to the slaughter But it's way the job must do, and the sooner it is begun If Clinton's figure holds a much too, the quicker it will be done Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove no to the rifle Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove no to the rifle This is the Intel report live and it is weapons Wednesday for all of our friends out there listening It is the 13 10 13 date. I think that means Absolutely nothing. But anyway for those of you who are worried Well 13 and 10 and 13 is like that means absolutely nothing As it is, and as we all know, the Chinese of course are on American soil right now. Well, you know, it's the islands and it's Hawaii. And as far as I know, I think that, you know, the whole issue there is, well, they figured they're going to give Hawaii away again anyway. So why not the Chinese? The Japanese covered it and they paid for most of it. You know, kind of a, you know, tongue in. You know, ironic, you know, shall we say, tongue-in-cheek thing there where enough of the Japanese have bought and paid for Hawaii now that it's more heavily owned by Japanese businesses than it is by American. Yeah, but let's be practical. If Japan gained access to Hawaii, China would stomp the dogs, dogs not out of them, and then own Hawaii. Yeah, they'd take it by force. They'd mildly take it by force, sir. Well, we got down on this here. Don, it is a certain day today. What is the date? It is a particular day, isn't it? You know what? You have caught me at a disadvantage because it is beyond the arm's length. The only thing I can do right now is, oh, I could do this right here with, oh yeah, let's do this here because It is a certain day and I'm not going to drop one in the magazine, but I'm going to open this one up here and I'm going to check that this magazine is full and I'm going to let that bolt fly to battery. I want to tell everybody it is weapons. One day the perimeter is securing. You know what? There's plenty more where that came from. I do like this black beauty here. That means we can offer equal opportunity, coercive force, as needed to deal with the threat. It's Weapons Wednesday. The other lesson to be learned there, it's not like Don's 1911 wasn't at hand, but something else was. Don is never beyond one step or two away from a gun. A very fine weapon at that. Yes. Something to live by. For all of our friends out there listening. Also, in the middle of the week, we have a series of meetings this weekend. We also have a heavy weapons demonstration at Naga-Hitcham. That's going to be pretty cool. That's on the 1600-yard range. I believe they're going to be at Oghama, but they'll also be at Naga-Hitcham. You're going to get a chance to see a couple. Everybody loved the 20mm Big Boar, three guns that were there. So somebody decided, well we'll bring in a few pieces of light field artillery and get everybody a chance to see how that works. You mean some of the stuff they count in inches and pounds? Right. Instead of worrying about the, well it's so many millimeters. Well it's true actually, you measure like, you've got 50s and 75s and 90 millimeter guns and you have 100s and 105s. But in this case these are inch guns, which is really kind of cool. And no, they're not pounders, these aren't British guns. These are measured an inch and they are definitely going to be something to demonstrate fast deployment. I had this interesting conversation with someone today and it was kind of funny because I had to giggle and laugh a little bit. The general population is better armed and it gets back to the question of well who's got the bigger toys? Well, they've got the m16. I said yeah, the average Americans got a 30 out of 6 bolt-action sniper rifle, but let's just not count those. Let's just go to how many m1 garands are in private hands and he made the stupid save and he says it's awful. Well, that's an obsolete gun and it's like really? Well, I'll sell that to every German that sells for one in World War II. And how many Japanese, and God knows how many Koreans, and who knows how many Vietnamese, because the grand was there in Vietnam too, guys. But I pointed out and said, well, I used the analogy, it's very simple, I said, well, I'll tell you what, here's how it works. We'll go out to the farm there, and you can sit down at the well house, and I'll just stand on your back porch, and I'll just take about one d-clips worth of shots at you, and we'll see how obsolete it is. What do you think? Well, that would kill me! I said, well, that's the whole point. You'd be absolutely dead? I mean, absolutely dead? Absolutely dead! Exactly. And he's like, well, I said, now here's the other thing. It's interesting. I want to tie this into something else. I was going to, we actually touched on some of the things this morning. We had some really great calls, too. One of the things that the philosophy of 100 years ago, this is the year 2013. In 1913, or actually I'll go back farther, in 1895, it was argued that smokeless powder, the advent of smokeless powder, negated the value of light mortars and negated the value of grenades. Because nobody was ever going to get a chance to get that close with a high powered smokeless powder cartridge. Now what they meant is that Don was pushing the ranges farther and farther and farther and farther out and the precision was such. that they weren't going to have to spray and pray, they were arguing that rifle marksmanship with modern ammunition with a well-trained infantryman was going to totally change the dynamic of the battlefield. And in fact, that's what all of the infantry weapon systems were centered around with regard to the rifleman, guys. Now, isn't it amazing that we're talking about using reverse slope fire with a bolt-action rifle like artillery? We're talking about stuff that was completely perfected and developed to the nth degree. Now isn't it sad that 80 years later we were all told, well, the average infantryman can't hit anything past 200 yards and it won't make any difference past 200 yards. And you only need to worry about a range of about 200 yards. And that was the miracle number, 200 to 220 yards. At least for the idea that we all became slavering idiots that had no clue about how to do any math or how to actually operate our equipment. Our IQs had all dropped dramatically to the point where we weren't going to be able to reach past 220 yards. Or what a range five times that would even look like. Yeah, oh, in no way that you could possibly think to it. It's like, really? Isn't it amazing how they taught grandpa to do that? but all of a sudden his grandson couldn't even come close to figuring out how to make that work. Isn't that amazing? And I would point out that again, and this is a progressive degradation, this is like a lot of other things we talked about where they have to get you into that mindset, guys. Uh oh, Don have you got a phone problem? I'm hearing that, yeah, but nothing's going on here, nothing's changed. And do we have another machine that might need to be... It could be something at the, I just heard again, click, click, click, click, click. Let's see here. I'm hooked up, there's no cats walking on my receiver or anything. There we go. And a one, two, that would sound good. Anyway, point is that with regard to the arms that are out there, we actually have supremacy in terms of performance. Now, whether or not you take advantage of it, the point being that at closer ranges, 200 yards or less, We have more bullet going down range with greater penetration potential, greater throw weight, okay, greater heft. And that's the thing that really is going to count when the time comes. Everybody's told us that we're going to end up with hemorrhoids and dronatoids and walking alligators that are mechanical and whatever. Well, then I don't want to go down in size, do I? Wouldn't I want to be going up to bigger with more penetration and more thump on the target? Wouldn't that make sense? Oh and by the way if the robotoid is out there in force if I can hit them at greater range I can hit them before they can start using their weapon systems effectively Wouldn't that make sense because they of course want everybody to under gun to drop down to that lighter weapon and in the process both sides supposedly are at equity Well, what if we don't like equity? We want supremacy. So that's how you're going to deal with it. Again, it doesn't mean that we won't take all the other weapons from the aggressor. We've already told you we will. But the idea is that we have a combined arms team, and that is especially critical with regard to operations. Wow. I know you've been changed here. You can hear that, right, Tom? Oh, yeah. Click, click. Major, yeah. And there it goes again. I can't explain it. Anyway, we are going to tweak this as we go. That's one of the cool things, we own the network so to speak. We do own the network. We can pretty well do what we need to do when we have a problem. We are going to fix it and deal with it right here on the spot. Anyway, a couple of other things here real quick. A lot of questions about night vision as we've discussed before. I would point out that for everybody out there, if you are going to be looking at night vision, If you do any questions like this morning call in ask Don on the air 712-432-0900 that's 712-433-0900 and the room numbers 957-464-pound sign again, that's 957-464-pound sign take the time hookup and plug in and what you can do is Find out what it is that would work best for you by talking to Don directly. Maybe you've got a question about how your equipment will work or what will it work with. Something that maybe you want to adapt it to. You may need a piece of equipment, which is the case with a lot of people that are usually shopping around. My argument is deal with Don rather than a stranger. So now, Don, how can we get hold of you and what do you have available, sir? Well, chronologically, my phone number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. And if you hear that gunfire in the background, I don't know if you can or not, a couple different calibers and it sounds really close. Deer season opens here Friday. So like today's Wednesday, Thursday, day after tomorrow, and I don't think people are supposed to be shooting right now, but I think that's a Michigan law for the week before deer season. That way you don't go out and kill a deer and then put it in the freezer and then get it out on opening day. But just so you, in case you're hearing those shots in the background, at any rate, if you want to walk out to the deer blind in the dark, and not carry a flashlight. Well, you could carry a flashlight, you could keep it in your pocket if you just have a simple viewer. That'd be something. I can put a simple viewer in your mailbox for around 200 bucks, you guys. You can go up to a piece of thermal, entry-level thermal, handheld, right in your pocket, right in your mailbox for under $2,000. Now, that seems like quite the jump in money, but there's a jump in performance, too. It's a completely different technology to go from green screen starlight over to thermal vision. Heat vision, you know, like FLIR, in fact that is the company that builds the part I'm talking about. Fits right in your pocket, fits right in your mailbox for under $2,000. We can go over to a second generation gun site, 308 capable. Write in your mailbox for $1,350 and $5. Write in your mailbox, two year warranty on any green screen I'm offering right now. Be it a viewer or a gun site. Most of my thermal is going to have a one-year warranty, but if you want to talk about it you guys you can reach me at two three one seven nine six eight four Five eight or I'll be here till the top of the hour you can call in and hey that number is as mark pointed out Seven three four or rather. I'm sorry seven one two. I was giving you my phone number seven one two four three two zero nine zero zero again seven one two four three two 9-5-7-4-6-4 and touch that pound sign again 9-5-7-4-6-4 and touch the pound sign and man you're here just like that ding we just heard and if you want to come on board star 6 will unmute you So with that in mind, if you want to talk to me about night vision, you can reach me at 231-796-8458 or you can call into the hour. Again, 712-4320-900 and then 957-464 pound sign and then star 6 will unmute you. So perhaps we have a caller mark. I'm not certain, but just to check and be courteous and say, do we have someone waiting that wants to come up onto the air, star six will unmute you. Pause for effect. That's a long enough pause. So again, for our friends out there listening, yes, the M77 I mentioned earlier does have the receiver side rail system. And guys, your best price. We've got somebody in the background. We need to switch that ground. Somebody in the background that needs to mute. There we go. Anyway, the M77-308 rifle that we're talking about that's available through a number of different sources, www.jgsales.com, www.jgsales.com. They have the rifle available, but the scope mount, which is available through a number of sources, dealextreme.com, dealextreme.com, dealextreme.com. Pretty much everybody is offering the China Sport Mounts and if you go to www.dealextreme.com you can find the mount there for a pretty reasonable price. You're going to need more than one anyway. If you're going to be using day optics on one end and then night on the other, well you want at least two and if you want to really save money buy three of them at a time and it's a lot cheaper. So, again, that is dealxtreme.com, dealxtreme.com. There are at least a dozen different types of slide on scope fixtures that they have. Some have one station, some have two stations, picatinny rails, some have three picatinny rails. Whoa, we're really coming down the line. That would mean, yeah. So as it is, again take the time to check it out, see what we have available, what's available there through DealXtreme, that's not us, dealxtreme.com and you can make that up to the rifle. Then when you get Don's night vision scope, guess what? Your night vision scope goes on one of those fixtures and then your day scope goes on the other. In fact, you could even set up a third scope, excuse me, that would allow you to have a backup. already ready to sight in or ready to use close enough so that you can switch out from your primary day scope to a secondary if something is dinged, pinged, damaged, bent, folded, spindled, mutilated or if something happens even to the mount. The idea behind this is that you aren't going to be in a situation where you're offline with regard to the optic system that you've committed to. Now, that also leads us to another thing we've discussed. If you look around, the Russian scopes that were coming in were in reality about the best price in the country for a while, the bosphorus scopes. I don't know if those are still out there and anybody offers them. Centerfire systems was. But if you bought three at a time, if you bought multiples of three, you saved a lot of money. Now there are some CHI-COM low end scopes out there right now that are comparable in terms of cost and basic performance. Don't go anything too fancy. A simple fixed power would be a good choice, but the option to go with variable power is always there. For a few more dollars you can buy a more expensive scope or with more features on it. The other option is to go to the gun shows and watch the smaller guy tables where they've got stuff that they've pulled off rifles and that's available. A lot of nice Burris scoops are out there. And Burris isn't real fancy in its earlier production models, but they're very rugged. very reliable. I like Burris in that respect and that the older ones were built like a brick doghouse, twice the thickness in terms of the hull. Nope, you're going to have to know where your point of impact is and then calculate accordingly. A lot of them don't have any gradient scale. They simply have a conventional crosshair sighting system. They may not even have an individual like sectional grid or increments along the post for the site. but they are a very well built scope. I have one on a K98 Mauser that is an absolute tack driver. The rifle is typically the case. It isn't the prettiest of the weapons and the scope isn't the fanciest, but that rifle will outshoot, I would say about 90% of what's in the inventory out there. It's just the perfect combination. The barrel is worked in. It's an 8mm Mauser. Again, the Yugoslav Hienamo performs best with it in terms of a fixed, tight group. The burriscope sits on the roof of that and it's first time every time, boom, down. Guys, it doesn't have to be the most expensive in order for it to work for you. The big thing is try to match it up and if you can get more than one, that would be a really good idea. Even if all you get are two tube mounts, in other words, two slide-on attachment mounts, one for your night vision, one for your day vision. To have a second backup regular scope that matches your first means that you have a minimal amount of sighting time. You're familiar with the scope and how it works so you're going to be able to tweak it quicker. You're faster. You're going to put it online faster. You're back up. Just something to think about there. I'm always talking multiples for a reason. We're looking at the long haul. We're not looking at a two-hour movie. We're looking at going through the entire series, the whole episode battery, right? It's more than 10 weeks. That's right. We are in a season 6 and I never thought we would get to season 4. So as it is, again guys, simple optics are fine. You can spend whatever you want. Mark's not going to control your perstrings and you guys have personal choices. But I'm telling you, it's interesting, I've had a lot more fun taking a derelict rifle that everybody said, oh that's no good. and walking through the gun show in about 20 minutes and by the time I'm done have all the goodies off the shelf for minimal bargain basement. I always look in the odds and ends boxes and the next weekend all the parts and pieces and assemblies are attached and the finishes been improved on the stock and you know I've repainted the metal if need be or I leave it crude and rude. I like doing that too. Just get the basics on board and make it look good and leave it crude and rude and everybody goes, well that's that, that rifle you got for $10. Yes it is. And watch what I can do with this now. And if I got it for free, my favorite is the one Moss rifle we did where I built it up from scratch and it was a free rifle. That's a 7.5 Moss and of course the buttstock it had a nail sticking straight out of the back and bent on an angle. I can only assume that that was holding some kind of rubber butt pad which had fallen off the rifle. It looked terrible. It was like, why? Nobody could have fired it like that. I had to laugh because that's the first thing everybody looked at. The first thing I'd say is, what's that nail there for? Oh, that's a special meat hook so that once you fire it, it won't slip off your shoulder. It keeps the cheek weld and the shoulder weld where it belongs. That's the special easy carry version. It's a little painful when you fire the first time, but after it's hooked into the flesh there, the only tough part is getting it off when you're done doing what you got to do. Yeah, because once you get used to it, it grows on you. Yep. That's what you weren't supposed to pull it straight out. You were kind of angling it to get that nail head out of there, you know what I mean, out of that wound channel. Boy, you'll learn, won't have any more of those tear spots anymore on the skin. Anyway, well, we did change that out. By the time it's done, dollar into the rubber recoil pad, B-square scope mount for about another, what, $7, $8. Picked up a Burris, actually, no, that one I put a Simmons scope on. and a few other touch ups that need to be done and some ammunition for about 17 cents around and lo and behold I had myself a Moss sniper rifle there. Oh I put a leather I got a for a whopping five dollars I got a used US military Laysan Monte Carlo cheek piece so that dressed her up a little bit. And the only thing I didn't do was put any kind of flash hider on it and things still had the bayonet with it which is cool. So at least if all felt like it sticks. That's when I first got it. At least I knew I could club somebody to death or stab them with a bayonet. So that's at least a leg up from harsh language and especially if the rifle is free. Right? Yep. So just something to consider there. Anyway, I've heard a couple more things. Do we have any callers? Star six, unmute yourself. Come on board. Again, we are almost to the top of the hour. Don, are you going to stick around? I've got to go, Mark. I'll be back at 8. For everybody out there listening, Don, your number for night vision, please give it out a few more times. That number is 2317968458. We can talk about goggles or gun sights, you guys. Green screens are thermal. First, second, or third generation. Thermal, be it gun sites or viewers. My number is 231796845823179684. Thank you Mark. Then on top of that, I've got the gray cat in my lap here. It's that 20th century man, Muswell Hillbillies kind of thing today. It's funny the cat blends right in with the clothes. He's not a dumb kitty. Yeah, he's a poor cat. He got thrown out by somebody and he is just the most wonderful animal you could ask for. We have lots of cats and he kind of just blends in really good. Of course with gray, he blends in really well right now. It's kind of sad because it's a classic example of how people with their pets, maybe they just saw the cats and figured, well, I got to get rid of him, but I won't take him to the Humane Society, which is fine by me. So everybody else in the area, here's a little point, guys. Everybody is complaining about the chipmunk invasion. Remember how we've talked about this on the air? Yup. Well, we're the only ones who don't have a chipmunk problem. everybody else, my god they're coming in from everywhere! I had some sob story someone was telling me down the street they had a pumpkin patch right? Well guys those little chipmunks are industrious and there's all those food pods out there in the field. Well the chipmunks don't plan on leaving those food pods out in the field do they now? Apparently somebody moved their boots that they were planning on using out in the garage and they just couldn't understand where all the pumpkin seeds came from. Not our garage. We're talking to neighbors down the street. They have to laugh. It's like, well that's because you have special little friends and they're living with you. And they said, what? Well, you do have a cat, don't you? Well, no, I don't have a cat. I have a dog. I said, well, obviously the dog's not doing you a whole lot of good. So again, guys, everybody, all of our animals serve a purpose. Doesn't mean the dog doesn't serve a purpose either. You all know better than that. But the rodent problem, we've had such an amount of food this year that we also had, let's just put it this way, a springing up of the population of Rodentia. And it has been quite, I think they got two or three breeding cycles out of them this summer because of the food as much as anything else. And so for everyone of all fails, break out the blow guns. It's Weapons Wednesday. I'll tell you that is a great sport. It's as good as woodchuck hunting and it's a lot tougher but once you get good at it, you'll get really good at it. It's point and shoot and for chipmunks or rats or any kind of little rodents, if you're patient, the blow gun is the weapon of choice. Skewer them to the wall. Oh yeah. And they kind of squiggle around for a bit and then they... But even if they do get away guys, you've shish kebab them and you've got this thing stuck through their torso. When they try to go back through the hole they came in, they keep bouncing out because of the bar. Then you're able to go and put another dart where it counts and that usually finishes the job. That's like crossing the key. You're shooting down the length then. I almost got away. That's a naval term applied to a mouse or a rat. But again, chipmunks seem to be the big one. We had a problem with that when we first bought this place years ago. Literally the roof of course needed to be replaced first thing and that's what we did. Because when we went to the second floor and we looked out the window there were a little colony of chipmunks looking right back at us through the window from the front porch. So it was like, no, that's got to change right away. And so the cats went to town and we went to work on the roof. And the rest is history from there. We are, by the way, at the top of the hour. Okay, caller, who do we have? This is Fluffy. Hey Fluffy, jump in there. Yeah, hitting a mouse with a pellet, like a 177 pellet, is like hitting them. Would be like getting a man with a cannonball. Yeah, that's a... actually it works, but it's like, yeah, you pretty well put him down for the count with that. That's why the blow guns, again, you've got different darts and broadheads. They work really well. I'll tell you what we're gonna do, guys. We're gonna go to break for now. Don, your number for Night Vision? It's 2317-968458. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire's on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Hey, what, we're gonna go to break down your number for night vision and close this for the time being? It's two three one seven nine six eight four five eight. You know how it works, you guys. Mark will be back for the next hour. 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