Mark Koernke hosted the evening Intelligence Report on November 8, 2013, discussing economic indicators including low gasoline prices, reduced consumer traffic, and stagnant business activity suggesting public caution. The show featured extensive technical discussion of ammunition components and reloading supplies, including newly available Winchester large rifle magnum primers and experimental electrically-fired primers. Callers and hosts explored alternative firearm designs including 12-gauge Gatling guns, lever-action rifle maintenance, and historical Ripley-style breech-loading mechanisms. A significant portion addressed violent crime targeting elderly and vulnerable populations, with caller Janet from Florida seeking advice on self-defense for women and seniors in high-crime areas; Mark recommended situational awareness, relocation to safer communities, and practical defensive measures. The show concluded with preparedness reminders and food storage recommendations.
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? Okay, are we on the air? This is better knife gotcha. Okay, we got you there go ahead Oh, okay. I didn't hear anything. Just heard the drums end and then silence. Uh-oh. I was still muted. Sorry about that. Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Harkie. And butter knife. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territory, central, west, east, and south. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us. 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The idea is to keep biting them. Waving to the left coast, we turn back to the East, we cross plains, we go over the emerging banks of the Mississippi line and the Smokies. The restaurant crew's grammar team is OK teams. The Ma Bell Grammar Consortium brings us the Golden Spike. Cold out here guys temperatures dropping right on the edge of freezing back We are at freezing a little above a little blow a little above so gonna get cold tonight for everybody out there Pay attention to your situation with regard to material and equipment that might need to be covered up You're gonna get some heavy frost tonight. Okay. What's like in your neck of the woods and what is the date today, sir? It is 8 November 2013. It is Friday evening. It is the last hour of the day and the week for the intelligence report. That makes this Quartermaster's Corner. We've been seeing some of the same things. Fifties typically during the daytime, sometimes mid-fifties and rainy and steamy and so on, then dipping down to around freezing at night, just a little above, a little bit below. We've had some 29, 31, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30 That sort of stuff. Nothing has been freezing because it hasn't been cold enough long enough for that, but certainly has been getting nippy on occasion. Leaves are still coming down. Driving around is kind of interesting. I don't see very many lawns with leaves raked yet. There are a few here and there. But it seems to me that people are postponing a lot of that activity in years previous. I've seen people sweep that stuff up two or three times before the trees have finished dumping, usually with lawn services and so on. I don't think they're spending money on that. I don't think people are spending much of anything. My phone has not been ringing lately. Last two or three weeks it's been darn quiet, which is just as well for some of the projects around here. It's not good for me in the long run. I do PC service and repair and I think people maybe are just kind of living with their machines rather than having them get fixed up. I was running errands today and was struck by the fact that at 5pm there really was very, very little traffic on the roads when normally there's a great deal of it. There's not a lot of people out in the stores, the places where I was. Gasoline is at $286 here. I don't recall the last time it was at that kind of price. I have observed or opined in the past that I think they dial a price down when they want to calm people down and keep the lid on and they let it spring up when the oil companies want to ravage the population a little bit more. We saw it pop up when the so-called budget deal was resolved because the pressure is off and we can go ahead and do another 10 cents of plundering and so on. They pushed it down to $286. If that theory is consistent then that suggests that the people with their hands on the knob are a little nervous and trying to keep people quiet. Maybe people just aren't buying very much gasoline, who knows? But all sorts of interesting little indicators like that kind of suggest that everybody is sort of holding their breath and you know, pulling back a little bit, could be that they're trying to keep people from exploding over bubble care and the big meltdown in that. That's certainly a major issue in the corporate press right now. They're focusing all on the woes of the website. Eventually the website will get sorted out, but that doesn't mean the underlying mechanism has been repaired. It's still a Soviet-style takeover that it always was. It's very interesting, it's a strange flavor out there right now. Interestingly enough, we're getting the same feeling. I've noticed this. It's not completely stagnant, but what's interesting is the normal cycles where you'd see a lot of activity, it's down to what would be normal business traffic at the off hours. A lot of the stores, in fact even the public areas, Normally, on a Friday night, for instance, this is a Friday night, we would have a lot of inbound traffic because everybody is running around, going into town or going into Ann Arbor or going to the movies or going somewhere. But this last couple of weeks, the traffic and like tonight, there's outbound work traffic, but the inbound traffic going anywhere, normally going out and doing other things, you do them on a Friday night or a Saturday night. Guys, the business has been in the basement. I mean, I can measure it by the traffic, so I agree with what you're saying, BK, and it's happening. I'm talking to truck drivers and stuff. They're seeing the same variation. The rush hour traffic and the work traffic is expected. But once you get past that, sky's the limit. Roads are clear. A lot of places, especially around even major hubs, after 8 o'clock-ish, nothing. I mean, it's three lanes, open traffic looks like it's two or three in the morning. In fact, probably two or three in the morning when the bars get out is busier and that's about it. And even then, there's so many hawks on the road that most people, that's another reason people aren't going to the bars. They don't want to be bothered or hassled on the way to and from someplace. They don't want to lose whatever little money they had and they probably would have spent it in the bars and it would have gone into the economy, but that ain't going to happen. I think there is a pregnant pause and everybody is hyper cautious right now. The one thing that the bad guys did by attacking the food and with all the other stuff they did, pull with the EBT cards etc. A lot of other people look at that in a very different way whereas old bummer in his yes men attitude he was told that this was going to manipulate things in one direction. I believe it has gone just the reverse. like everybody's backed off completely. Plus now there's also a fear. Well you've got all the welfare people that thought they were going to continue with the level that they were at and as we know that's been torqued back. So there's a whole bunch of math in this formula showing up in terms of what's transpiring out in the market now. Go ahead please. Okay, let's see, we have many little topics we can touch. Let's do the standard run through. I have not been doing a lot of research on components this time around, but I did see some interesting things out there at Powder Valley. They are listing in stock of Winchester brand large rifle magnum primers. That's new. We haven't seen that recently. Winchester brand. They have had other brands from time to time. They haven't had anything in that category recently. So that one just popped up at $31,000 per thousand. As usual, Potter Valley always has good prices on these things and they move a lot of volume and they sell out. If you're interested in that, large rifle Magnum Primers Winchester brand. Tula is reasonably well stocked by recent standards. They've got four entries that are actually active. They have small pistol primers which have been in short supply recently and small rifle primers. Both of those are standard commercial style and both of those are Tula of course at 23.50. They do have the two burdans that I keep mentioning, both the X39 and the 308 in burdan variant. As I've said before, I don't consider this a major feedstock for most people, but if you've got X39, you certainly ought to have some of those burdan primers in inventory. If you are committed to 308, a lot of that The military brass out there, the Radway Green, the Portuguese, the German DAG and so on, is actually a burden whether you realize it or not. If you get down to reloading that, you may want to have those. If you're well covered in the Boxer area, you might want to pick up a few thousand of those just to have them in inventory. Now there are a few interesting things over in the boxers. There is a really interesting thing over in the Remington column. This is something that is going to sound kind of weird, but a few years ago Remington came out with something called the E-tronics. E-tronics, E-t-r-o-n-x. This is one of those Space Cadet experimental things. They brought out a Remington 700 in a couple of the varmint calibers. with this e-tronic system and basically it's an electrically fired primer and this is for super duper target use because when you fire the primer electrically there's no lock time and there's no mechanical works operating so you don't have the click and the clack and the jump and so on. It just sort of goes pop and there's no preliminaries. It's an interesting enough mechanism but naturally it's one of those weird little quirky things that we would not feel generally. However, Powder Valley just seems to have gotten some of those primers. They have the electric large rifle primers. Now here's the kicker, $224 per thousand. So that's 22 cents a piece, gang. They are not cheap. I would not recommend getting one of those rifles or looking for one of those rifles. But think about that. That is an electrically fired device. produced with factory quality controls. There would conceivably be any number of uses one might put electrically fireable devices. to the fireworks industry does that but they have different considerations of reliability and speed of operation and all of that kind of good stuff. So it's very interesting that that has appeared. It's certainly a weird little niche item but it is listed as available right now at Potter Valley Inc dot com. The E-tronics large rifle of electrically fired primers, so experimenters might have some interest in that. It's not a cheap experiment, a measly thousand of them is going to cost you over $200. But those have appeared. That's kind of neat. Interesting that they should even be out there except that they are, well, anybody who's got a company right now is looking for any inventory to put on the shelf, so at least there's a solution. There was something to put into the field is what I see. Again, it's not like the systems aren't out there. We know the rifles exist. Somebody has one. They're definitely going to want to reload. I don't know what the cost of the box of ammunition for one of those rifles. Beats the pojis out of me. I have no clue. Nor do I know what the list on the rifles were, but I doubt that they come in anywhere. They start anywhere under a thousand bucks. Anybody looking for something exotic like that is They're certainly looking for a toy. in an exploratory price range, but then the real sticker shows up. Well, you're not going to find that kind of ammo at Wally World either. That's going to be something that your friendly neighborhood FFL orders for you. If you're going to dip your toe in that kind of exotic waters, expect to have some cold tolerance. Well, an interesting thing about this is, again, the application. I don't know what. We need to find out what the power supply is if they're using a battery pack, a capacitor, a reactivating capacitor. Yeah, it's battery driven. Certainly one of the earlier systems of predecessors to this spun up a capacitor like a photo flash did. I don't know whether this one does or not. There is a circuit board of some sort. It probably does charge up a capacitor so that it can send a big surge through and get quick response. You can do that at lower current levels, but there's a heating up time to get something like that to trigger and in that sort of market you would want it to be very consistent and quick. So that circuit board probably charges up the capacitor and holds it ready so that it can dump it quickly. Interestingly enough, when you think about it, the Well, what they've done is they've basically taken the tank and artillery activating and firing systems, scaled them down and proportionally gave them a power supply that I would hope is reliable. That's the only thing I can picture is there's not, I can't see how you can build it durable enough where it would impress me. Well, no, that could be very solid. I mean, people pot electronics all the time. There's not a lot of power consumption there because it's not like you're firing it every 8 milliseconds for 10 minutes. So that could be very, very durable and solid, or it could be kind of flaky, a hangar queen, depending on how they did it. That's my point. Even the best that they could do is just on a weapon, especially a shoulder for your shoulder weapon. Granted, if it's inside a shooting range, if it's going to be a dust-free environment, etc. You can just picture whatever they do in the long run, you know what part's going to wear out before anything else on that weapon. It's going to be that battery pack. It's not the battery itself. I'm just talking about the fixture unless you milled it out of steel or a dual aluminum of some kind to make me impressed. What you could do, the communist Chinese make anything nowadays, but I just can't picture anything that they would do to make the battery pack or the power pack unit. look as industrial or work as well as the rest of the weapon system. I would be inclined to expect them to have a reliable board because chances are Remington wouldn't do that themselves. You've heard me make speeches about electronics designed by plumbers. I mentioned that they would firm that out to somebody. I would expect the weakest maintenance point to be the switch. But that's presumably an item that could be repaired easily enough. And usually when witches go, they become a little intermittent. So you can live with them for a while. It's just that you might have to tap the trigger a couple of times or some such. Oh, the zombie's showing up, isn't he? Oh, I got him. My father got this. Oh, there's three more now. Oh, do I got to go through this to kill every zombie? Oh, man. Remember, we are talking about a varmint class bolt-action rifle. Oh, I know. And I can picture that would be the other one. Well, you know, the switch. OK, now remember, I'm going to let you shoot my rifle. But there's a little trick to it. When you use the switch, I've had this for a few years, you got to kind of pull on the left side a little more. and that helps the contact and we'll break in and otherwise you might have to hit it two or three times and by that time the woodchuck's gone. picture all the variations on what can go wrong when you start throwing electronics into a mechanical system that doesn't need it. Well, if they do it wrong, yeah, it could be a real problem. It could also be completely encapsulated inside a membrane. I mean, it's not like you need a lot of travel. I know it'll work for a while. I'm picturing all the weapons you pull out of a closet that you find rust. and oxidation and now the next thing i get to find your dripping batteries or you know a bone capacitor that's going to have a lose all over and you know it's going to be the right will be sitting outside the bs spot where there's a dark spot on the polymer stock or the wood stock and they'll be a drip drain point no wonder what that is at first you think all the mice got in here and then it's like Now that's from the inside. Oh man, did I take the batteries out of that sucker? Oh man, I was going to cheap out. I chinsed out and went with the junky Chinese ones. Well the actual reality could be anywhere from what you fear to what I hope. So there's no telling. I'm not advocating this for any actual practical use. Though it could be much better than imagine. We might run into one though. We still might run into it. But those electric primers are an interesting thing and an experimenter could have some fun with that. Speaking of experimental stuff, you mentioned recently that some people are doing some work on a 12-gauge Gatling gun and I was thinking about that. It occurred to me that If you start running a Gatling gun at any significant rate, whether you use an electric motor on down the road or whether you use a teenage horsepower, you know, I'm going to aim, you know, a teenager cranks the lever, you know, use that energy in some useful fashion. Our strong does the cranking. Yeah, an organic motor, you know, okay Robbie, spin it, you know, this kind of stuff. However you do it, with any exists, If you have a sustained rate of fire, you could have some issues with the chamber heating up. Given that shot shells are traditionally made of plastic, I wonder whether there would be some problems in that regard. It occurred to me that it might be useful to go to paper shot shell hulls for those. I did a little bit of research. Sure enough, you can still purchase paper shot shell hulls if you want to. I took a look at graphs. For somewhere between $11 and $13 you can get 100 primed paper hulls. That remains an inventory item. As yet another argument or another little bit of data there that supports my argument, if people are having a hard time with centerfire ammunition, they really ought to look to the shot shell market because those The supplies remain on hand. You can buy wads at $5,000, a sack of $5,000 for $100 more or less. They use the faster powders consistent with pistol powders and those are among the powders that are still available in the inventory shot shell and pistol powders. primers are available. All of the inventoryed components that are necessary continue to be available on the market. Everybody has pulled down all the center fire rifle stuff. But the shot shell supplies remain consistently available off the shelf and are lower tolerance and not as precise to have to put together and all that kind of good stuff. For that sort of unusual use, even paper hulls are still available and still inventoryed in limited quantities. I think there were like four entries, one of which was out of stock, so there are three choices. But even those are still available, so that's an option. The Gatling folk might want to think about paper hulls because I wonder about the plastic. Well, the big thing with plastic that we've found in the past with reloading, or for that matter standard loads, is go with a factory standard medium load, regular load. No magnum load or anything like that, although magnum can be used. The paper would be an option, and remember there's also brass case out there too. Yeah, those are really pricey though. Yeah, either way, again, all those would work in a 12 gauge chambering. The other thing that remember was done by the Navy with their 12 gauges, they went in another direction, which could still be done with a design. Originally when the Navy was looking at their new double tube feed Remington 870 super shotgun that they built in the early 70s, they used 50 caliber cases that they cut at the first shoulder step and used them as a straight case shotgun shell which made for a mega death 12 gauge round. Now the thing about it is that that would be another direction to go and I would still recommend it for the guys that are working on this project. One of the guys that's doing this actually that's helping out to teach him a few things started out years ago building of the original Gatling guns, which were actually black powder and the individual chambers were literally like a small muzzle-loading rifle. The front back chamber of the barrel, actually what it is, is there's a bevel. and the chamber was only about 4 inches long and you individually loaded each one like a muzzle loading pistol and put those in the magazine and when you cranked it, it dropped them in, indexed them and fired of course and that meant that the primer, the cap had to be jostled a little bit so it had to take a little bit of abuse there. The thermal issues with the plastic, if you start to hypercharge, that's where, even with pump guns we've seen this, they will melt. They'll typically melt not so much, well they will stretch too, but they'll not be as much of a problem except that once they're activated, I've watched this happen, we used 870 shotguns with triple charges and as you evacuate the round you'd literally be like Silly Buddy hitting the pavement. That's just an individual round guys without activating the chamber. You fire it a couple of times, it's preheated and actually it's that much warmer. So that is something that has to be taken into as part of the math formula. If you were using a single barrel and you were going with a very high rate of fire, you'd have a significant issue. The good thing is with a traditional pattern, you have multiple barrels. The cycle time actually allows for a great deal of calorie extraction and control. So we have to look at probably using what we have off the shelf. And one of the tricks to dealing with this even would be to combine the paper shell and the plastic if we have both available. One nice thing about the Gatling is it's very forgiving. If it doesn't fire it just simply cycles the dead round through. So there is a lot of paper, old paper shells laying around that are just out there in the moon docks and they might be directed towards a weapon system like this. A lot of buck, a lot of slug, number six shot. I wouldn't really care what I dump in that Gatling for close defense. It would be palacious no matter how you look at it. The only thing that's in question is how long would the barrels and again, as I pointed out, about 16, well, I forgive me, 18 to 20 inches, stick with 20s, but it could be longer, wouldn't be a problem. However, remember that gatlings were built in 9 millimeter and were actually what they called camel guns. So you could go very, very short in the long run, but I wouldn't recommend that right now. the test package that they're going with they're using off-the-shelf barrels from one of the old gun suppliers these are stock barrel blanks Yeah, that's exactly what I would do. I would see if I could design for a fabricated barrel, but if I couldn't, I'd use barrel planks of a conventional manufacturer and so on. And it's off the shelf, yeah, exactly. Yeah, or the end-rank unit, the barrels are not spinning so fast that they've got a fan cooling action going on. So it's the same as firing a slide action. every couple of seconds, it will warm up. Right. We've got a caller. Who do we have? Call me Bo Dook. Have you ever heard of a Ripley? A battery-fired gun where you rail the cartridges, slide an activator, and it activates the pins? No, sir. It was multiple barrels with a breech block that you inserted into the breech. and they were cap and ball. You could make them any size. And the hammer, when you crank the crack, there was a corresponding amount of loads to the barrels. And the hammer just rose up on the load and fell down on the firing pin and fired it. And you could build it with like a steel insert into an aluminum investment for your breech blocks and build it like out of one inch. seamless pipe for your barrels, be totally smooth. The only thing that can go wrong with the dowel thing is the lubes become misaligned. But if you pin that circular cam in there, because when you turn the crank, you just re-taste the spring-loaded hammer and strike the end of the pins. Yeah, so that would be sort of a burp gun. You load a breech block assembly that's all loaded and you spin the crank once and it goes burp and then you swap it out again. Right, but if you took that receiver mechanism and put it on a reel where you could telescope it back and forth, you could have different cylinder assemblies and you can load it with black powder. That's all they use. And you can have shot, a fleshette, maybe even a sabbath. You don't have like 10 rounds but you can tear things up. Now as I recall envisioning this the actual the whole base cylinder came off with all of the loads attached right? Right. Yeah it was like a cap and bar with a robber except it didn't turn. You had a handle on the top, you pulled it out and jammed another cylinder in. It had an index pin in the bottom so that it did rotate. You can build it with a lathe, a drill press, and a truck or foundry for casting beer cans into a billet with investments of steel. Oh, you can't do anything. With a high fire rate in bursts, you would have a low mass efficiency. And to have 100 rounds loaded, you would have to have quite a few of these breech blocks. And they would weigh a lot. So it's not a portable type thing. But you can certainly sense the first count range. You'd go on a G-board, like Mark was saying. You pelletize everything. And for a breakout situation, this thing would put out a volume of smoke like nobody's business. Well, again, using the 12 shot shell being the best solution for a fixed number of rounds, using that process, you're putting more pellet in the air. You figure if you're using number 4 buck, every round that goes off times however many rounds are in the cylinder, you're looking at 30 pellets times 10, 30 pellets times 12. What happens when your bore size is inch and then it's the same as a boiler pipe? You're getting 80 or 90 pellets per cylinder. Well it seems to me as I recall the Navy used this. Actually what they did is they adopted it during a window. A friend of ours, he's passed away now, he used to discuss this particular design. And it was about the same time we were looking at centrifugal rock throwers. Actually, these were contemporary with the gabbing guns. They can make whatever size in the Navy. The Navy had these available. They used several different types of gallings for the same reason for clothing or antiperspirant. They make gabbing guns all the way up to 2 inch 4. They call them a torpedo boat gun. Or like the French, it becomes the next secret weapon to try and end World War I. He just made it bigger for us still. This is the latest gun. Three months from now the war will be over. Three months later the war will not over. We have problems with this gun. What's wrong with it? I don't know. I give up. We'll find Francois to build us a new one. He'll make another decision. Thank you Mark. Have a good evening. Appreciate that. Actually, I'm going to bring you one of the advantages of this idea. If you do have parts start to distort, it's a cast piece, you send it back to the rear, it gets re-smelted, knocked back down to its original material and put back into the mold again. Congratulations, the metal is reusable. You put the steel lighters back in the mold and cast it again. Very simple. No problem. Thank you, Parker. And again, we are, oh my goodness, let's keep going. I know who we've got. Who else do we have? Yeah, go ahead. Hi, I'm Arkin Staner from Florida. Okay, we got, hold on, we got two different callers. We got Florida, and who else do we have? You're in Michigan. Okay, go ahead. Let's do it this way. I got a question about the Model 94 Leaver Action Carbine. Right. Okay, you know, I've had Leaver guns that are just, I can work the action and never even take my eyes off the side of the target and just keep rapid fire because it smooths butter. The one I have is really tough. Is there a way to fine tune the mainspring on those to make it softer? You've got to be careful with the Winchester because of the way those were calibrated. If you've got somebody who you run into that could deal with them. Some are smooth butters and some are hard. Well, they're not broken in yet. A lot of times what it is is the rifle is just fresh. My experience with the lever action is that an awful lot of Hold on a second. Hold on, caller. Wait a minute. Stop. My experience with the lever actions is that an awful lot of people clean and lubricate those things and never ever in the life of the rifle ever do a full disassembly and they get away with it. They're very reliable and they're kind of a pain to take apart and put together again. The Marlins are reputed to be much easier to handle than the Winchester 94 in that regard. It can certainly be done. There are AGI videos on all of these things and so on. Has this one ever been completely disassembled, cleaned down to the metal and all of that kind of good stuff? It's going to be, but I'm going to do it. I'm just wondering because I've got a schematic here and it's like new. It's never broken. I've had some on the box or smooth butter and others that aren't. It's Winchester. It depends on the year that was made as much as anything. And the service effects on the change. Right, so the machining services, but kind of like, I might go through and polish the whole thing, it'd be rough aging fine, and it must say, can't, you know, it's on number seven. I was wondering, there's a can't, I've never done this on this particular rifle. I would hold off on that and tell you, I would hold off on that number one, like you said, you can do point maintenance and clean it, but the other issue is remember, Winchester changed specs and also changed skilled tradesmen. It's like Colt, they have the same problem, so the reason there's a difference in the rifles as much as anything is it's a matter of when they were either having a strike, when they kicked out their regular employees and had other people brought in. Winchester changed hands here several times in the last 20 years. There's another factor at work here. A common rifle like that if it were carried by Kmart before Rosia, Donald, Knife BAM or Walmart. One of the things that people don't know is that the same rifle that you get from your FFL versus getting from a chain store may have some differences internally, not by design, but because the chain stores squeezed the vendors very, very hard on price. They would book entire production runs from Remington, Winchester, whomever. And those production runs would be longer production runs and they would push the tooling a little harder. And as a result, some of the lore out there is that those rifles, while they meet spec, will be closer to the edges of spec, that the tooling will get a little bit more ragged by the end of the run and so on. The standard commercial production runs would produce X thousand rifles and they might produce twice that many on a production run for one of the big store buyers that's buying the whole lot. So it could be that the tolerances are just a couple ten thousandths more that an end mill has worn down a little bit and therefore the part is a little bit thicker and it rubs a little harder in its groove and things of this sort. So what I would do is a first step as I would do an absolute complete disassembly, clean and move on that guy and see how it behaves. Well, to ask you a question, there's a screw on there, it's called the main spring string screw and there's a main spring mounting screw. The string screw, would that have you do the tension of the spring on that leaf spring? I wonder. Now you can get it adjustable anyway. It's not, it's pretty tough. It's like a new gun, it's never been broken, I'm sure. Yeah, it has some pretty bad machining surfaces on there. I can tell. It scratches my shells up really good on the rim. So if there's some sharp edges in there, I'm gonna have to go in and remove them. Interesting. Well, I'll tell you what, hold up. Let's stay right here for a minute, but we got another caller. Call her from Florida. Jump in there, please. Hi, Mark. This is Janet from Florida. Mark, I've been looking at you all the time. I really have a chance to call in. But, Mark, I wanted to ask you a question. You're really good about self-defense and weapons. I know there's a lot of women that listen to your show, and I'm sure there's a lot of elderly people that listen to your show that never call in. But as you're fully aware, there's been a huge rush in black-on-white crime on elderly people, women, younger kids. I'm calling tonight to ask you, what can you tell women like me, elderly people, how can you protect yourself from being the next victim? Well, I know this is tough. Number one, we've been discussing, Don's been bringing this up because he's been seeing it from the other end. The latest is what they're called sucker punching, which has been going on for quite some time. It's really petty because what you have are these animals, and that's the only way to describe it, where they pick either women by themselves, men by themselves, or in the beginning of all ages, but they pick on the elderly specifically because they can make brownie points on that. Now, the first thing is it's hard because why should you have to pay attention to your surroundings even near your home? But, if you have any group that's coming up on you, immediately change direction, go into a store, do whatever you've got to do there if you're by yourself. Because if you go to YouTube, you can watch video after video where the person, the individual, is on their side, they're on the sidewalk, they're on their side of the sidewalk. And out of the blue, what they do is they figure they put you in the middle of their attack by a part of them passing you by. and then about the middle of the formation is where one of them is going to slide sideways and smack you in the temple, hit you in the side of the head, or beat you with something. I mean it's everything from golf clubs to big pieces of stick and rocks, whatever, or even being knifed. If you see or have a group that are nearby, the first best thing to do is get to or move into whatever business is right there handy. One of the other things we need to do is isolate this a little bit. What part of the country are you in if you are in a last retreat state like New Jersey that's a different situation than if you are in a state like Texas or Florida? We need to figure out whether you're concerned about in your home or out and about this kind of stuff. All that contextual stuff matters. If you're looking for a selection of a firearm for around the house, we need to narrow down your inquiry a little bit to help better. I live in South Florida part of the year and I also live in Alabama part of the year. I have a concealed carry permit and I know how to use a pistol on trade. However, I'm actually calling because I have a lot of friends across the country in Southern California where the gun laws are terrible and on the East Coast, a lot of single women that are still my friends that live by themselves. So I'm worried about them and I'm worried about some of my family members that go to work and live in parts of Illinois where you can have a gun. This question is kind of rhetorical. I know a lot of people listen to you and I think and respect your wisdom as you gentlemen on the board here. And so that's why I ask you that question. It's more of a rhetorical question, not a specific question for me. I was always told if you look like a victim, you will be a victim. I am very aware of my situation and my body language does not betray a weekly. However, I worry about my family and friends in other places. You cannot defend everybody from everything. You can come up with some suggestions and so on. Ultimately, people are still responsible for looking out for you. for themselves. The simple stuff about, out and about. Go out with friends as much as you can. Stick to decent neighborhoods as much as you can. Do not abandon your automobile if you think there's something funny. If somebody thumps you in the bumper, it is perfectly legitimate to stay in your car with the windows rolled up and get on the cell phone if you're the slightest bit cautious or nervous about You can get bumped as an initial opening to an assault rather than an accident. Around your house, there's some very simple stuff you can do that can improve your situation. Instead of the standard little peephole in the door, you can put in a video monitor so that you walk up to the front door, you throw the switch, and you can see who's out there. You don't have to open the door to see who's out there. This is all passive type things, but very limited and simple things like that can make a big difference. It's getting really bad all across the country. It doesn't happen as bad in areas where the gun laws aren't as strict like they are here in Florida, Alabama, and Arizona. But parts of the east coast and especially the commune of California where I used to live, it's really bad. It's very hard to defend yourself. It's escalating. The problem is that you have to balance it out. A lot of people want to stay where they are. When we get into the discussion about the areas, it's almost to the point where abandon in place. Leave that place behind. New Jersey is not any better. We've got friends that are out of the programming here. They're from New Jersey, but New Jersey, New York, and for that matter, Minnesota's not all that good. It's contrary to what you might think. The communists, the Soviets, the hardcore Reds around Minneapolis, St. Paul. They have really influenced the areas there. The first thing I would say is this. If you are older, you can't take a hit. You are going to have to decide how best to defend yourself. That is why getting back into a situation where you are amongst friendlies or at least getting away from the environment that has been created. It is tough, but it is something we are really going to have to decide to do. Find other family, friends, people you know, and decide to start moving in their direction. Some people like Florida, some people don't like Florida. A lot of people just don't like the heat. For me, it's a mix. I like the mixed weather right now. My dad in the same way, he's in his 90s, but he's gotten older, so warm is nice. The other thing is that if you're living on Social Security and pensions and things like that, you're tired, you're not working and so on, are you truly tied to that location? People that have a job, they have to stick with the job. But if you're retired and so on, do you truly need to live in an area where you're nervous? Well, we're putting up our house for sale. And since I don't owe that much money on this house, I'll probably be able to sell it pretty quickly because I've got quite a bit of land on this property. So selling the house will be an off, it will be a hassle. It's just a matter of getting it done. We're going to put that on the market next week. However, we still have to stay here until the house goes through closing and all that. But my husband has lived here for many, many years. He, we're both of the opinion that South Florida is not an attainable place for people anymore. I have to thank you. So we're going to go back to either Eastern Tennessee or Missouri or the Ozarks and area in the country where I feel safe. I don't feel South Florida safe and I don't feel Southern California safe. No, California in general, Southern California and Central California along the coast or the capital are going to be a big problem in general. Northern California, we have a lot of people that are up that way and in fact you might recall they just discussed We have more than one part of the country, and that doesn't mean I would go there, but it means that if you are one of the people that is stuck in California, you better start looking at the possibility of a relocation or retrograde towards friendly territory. That's one of the things that's going to be an issue in shifting in all these states. Colorado is in a civil war situation. We can call it whatever we want, but it's a conflict situation. Denver is the dark, pre-op, pit of perdition. The rest of the state doesn't want everything to do with it. California, you've got most of the state being dragged down by the Shysters there. But there's parts of the state that have always been and have pretty well maintained their control and security and they really don't feel that they're a part of the state anymore. This is reflective of the very problem even that you bring up about having to pick and choose around this country where for how many years, pretty much despite what everybody says, people left each other alone. Somebody has conditioned and created a mindset that they can play predator. We have gone full circle of this now and that's what I think everybody is uncomfortable with and the only thing that you can do, the best thing you can do is logger up with people of like mind. But even where you're going into the Midwest, one of the things that's happening, and this is not an accident, is the illegals. That's a third faction issue and it's not that everybody that's coming across the border is an antagonist. The problem is a big chunk of them are. That's part of the formula we have to work into. I know South Florida has all three of the issues we're talking about. That's not an accident. It was created by Miami. Remember back in the 90s, Miami declared itself an international zone. They have already painted their colors red and yellow. They have shown you exactly what flag they are flying. That is why look where all of the UN garbage or international garbage was being done for training exercises where they even put it out there and had the mare running around and everything. Look where that happened. It's bizarre because you know in the same breath it's like New York. Bloomberg was ousted. That doesn't mean he hasn't taken his money to still pee in everybody's face anyway. But he's stirring the pot. There's a bunch of these characters moving around. How was it that the Knuckle Draggers, the gangbangers, how was it in the first place that they feel they have the ability or that they have? the lateral ability to move and attack people like this. Where did that get into their brain? Where did it come from? Nobody is asking the right questions on this one because there is a psychology that comes along with this. Who promoted it? Well, the public fool system promoted it. We saw this back in the 70s the same way. For a period of time, rational minds took over and kind of lassoed stuff in a little bit. Well, it has gone crazy town again. I don't think it will be fixed this time. I don't think it can be fixed other than the fact that we're going to be button heads on a hardcore basis and it's not going to slow down because there's nothing on the horizon that can fix it. It's not at all. All the pensions are completely underfunded. I've only lived in Florida a couple of years since I married my husband. I have lived all over the country, New York City, Honolulu, and I'm done with the big city. I'm in my 50s, we're both semi-retired and, Mark, I just want to be in a small town where the government leaves you alone. I don't care if it's on board. You may be disappointed in that. The small towns interfere too. Not bad though. Well, as you say, you at least know who it is. You're going to have to go beat the smout out of her beat to death later on when the time comes. Yeah, if somebody who is two miles from the people they're messing with, there's a little bit of caution there. Before you ever get there, you might hear one last gunshot. You realize your problems are all taken care of by one of the other neighbors. So, you know, kaboom! Oh, I guess that county board is no longer a problem anyway. Don't worry about it. Yeah, the commissioner gives you a hard time. You can call his mom and have her emote on him. Yeah, she'll beat the snot out of me. Well, the thing is, Mark, I just want to be left alone, and I just want to live out the rest of my life with my husband. and contribute to the community, find a nice church, get involved in civic affairs, and just have a normal life and not be looking over my shoulder. I had that taking the subways in New York City as a young lady in my career and I'm just done with it. I've got crime fatigue. Let me give you a little hint here. Some of the bizarre things we've seen happen since they've pumped up this, blacks can go out and meet up people. We've got Disney Dexter, as you know I've described in town here. We've got a small town, it doesn't look anything like it ever did in its history, okay? Because we've got people that have moved in that have a lot of money and this was a farming town, etc. Now it's still a nice little town. But now, you see, we had a carload of characters drive through town and they were catcalling everybody, how they were going to beat this person up and they were going to beat that person up and they were ethnically oriented. Now, what's fascinating is that these people are the most bend over licked their own hind end kind of characters. What's fascinating is that attitude is drawing the other flies out because they figure they can walk right over pretty much everybody. Now, the mistake they made is a whole bunch of people stepped out from the street corner, from around the streets and basically said, why don't you just stop that car. Don't you go nowhere if you're gonna start yapping from that and all of a sudden the brake lights went off and the wheels get squealing right on down out of town and they didn't come back. Now, it wasn't me, I'm just saying in general what's fascinating is they expected spineless and what's happened is people are doing exactly what you're talking about with a very quietly for a reason. They're finding their own level, you know, gravity level and their consciousness level with other people and they're not going to retreat a whole lot farther because there isn't any place left to run to. That's the good thing about having people of like mind or at least people are starting to catch on that you know this whole trying to you know You're doing the right thing. You've got to get away from what is going to be a kill zone If things were to kick off hard, I'm gonna tell you right now. This is not a joke It's reality when I was in the military we were told that we were gonna surrender everything up to Orlando I jokingly used to mention the Orlando line, but it's a real thing. The operations that I participated in out of Fort Benning included the battle for Florida. The perception of the problems with Florida is such that Orlando is the demarcation line. It's automatically assumed that anything below Orlando we lose. I'm terrible in my opinion. for anyone who's a decent human being. Because there's a lot of other crap that goes on here I'm not going to get into. But we just want to be left alone. There's two kinds of people in the world. There's those who won't leave you alone, and there's those who want to be left alone, which is me. And you're the same way. I grew up in a small town, and that's what I want again. I'm done with the big cities, and I'm just going to get the heck out of here. But in the meantime, I need to stay sharp so that I'm not the next cashlicker. One of the things I would recommend, and we've been talking about this, is remember a lot of things you can carry are weapons and should be. There's things that may not even look like a weapon, but in reality if it's got a sharp pokey object or it has one built into it, it's a good idea to keep those on hand. Obviously, it's a variation in how you're going to defend yourself. My problem is that an older person gets hurt. If you're in your 60s, 70s, or 80s, that can be a lethal injury. That's where a lot of our friends or our family, that's the balance here. We can't say, you need to be a machine gunner, you need to carry an assault rifle. The average person is going to be doing that. But on the other hand, the basic problem you've got is these people that have been told they can hurt anybody or walk up and hurt the old, the infirm, the elderly, or the young individuals. For whatever reason, because of their low IQ, their incompetence, their conditioning from the public fool system, they don't have any concern for life. But they also don't understand the fragile nature of life cycle. Their logic is, all I did was beat his head in three times. And, you know, of course, the person is bleeding on the ground, well, it's a 60 year old or 70 year old person. Well, they don't come out of it and they're dead. And it's like, well, I didn't hurt him that bad. We only beat on him five or six times each, all of us, all 12 of us, you see. And that's the kind of twisted P-brain logic that they've been built to. Well, these guys are graduates not only of the government schools, but the government correctional system. They think that the world is that as an extension. We're way over. I want to throw out one item. All the food stores, butter is on sale this week, $1.69 a pound at all these foods. That covers about the eastern two-thirds of the country at $1.69. It keeps in your freezer. We've issued instructions here on how to home can that, which is also a practical solution. Hot buttered popcorn gang. If you've got hot buttered popcorn, how bad can everything else really be? It's a smiley thing. In fact, I'm going to have someone. We're done with the program. You just planted a seed there, BK. Well guys, we appreciate all the input and again for everybody out there, stay on course and don't slow down. In fact, set up a program, stick to it. Remember that we've got the ability also to inventory what we've got. Quartermaster is the most critical component, logistics the key to victory. Anything else BK before we go? No, we're way over and that was my parting shot. I'll be better until Tuesday. So take advantage of it. In fact, we'll be checking on that tomorrow too. God bless the Republic. Yes, for the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the run. Well, again, BK, thank you very much, sir. You're welcome. Everybody out there, guys, stay tuned to remember, Quartermaster Friday is over for us, but the whole weekend is open for you. We've got everything from the Hamfest, sales at Aldi, to a whole bunch of other locations. You can take advantage of locally. Do it. We'll be back, well, Monday, springtime. God bless. Have a good weekend. Bye-bye. Washington and Jefferson are fried.
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