November 5, 2013
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59m
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2013
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Mark Koernke discussed surplus police radio equipment available cheaply at government auctions, explaining how militia and preparedness groups could build independent communication networks using older Motorola and GE handheld radios. He covered weapons system reliability issues, comparing the M60 and M1 Abrams tanks, and discussed Vietnam-era weapon failures. The show featured extended caller discussion on defeating surveillance technology, tracking dogs, and robotic systems through low-tech methods like paint, trip wires, and scent disruption. Topics included evasion techniques, thermal signature reduction, and historical examples from Vietnam and Grenada operations.
- police surplus radios
- motorola
- communications
- militia preparedness
- m60 tank
- m1 abrams
- vietnam weapons failures
- tracking dogs
- evasion techniques
- thermal signature
- max velocity
- dog handlers
- surveillance defeat
- ammunition production
- weapons wednesday
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Live 365 He took off his three cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number, and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight if he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and Wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free and home good? afternoon ladies and gentlemen this is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report i'm mark kirky one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west southwest east and north well ladies and gentlemen you were listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com where I am on FMI crew station, CB Bay stations and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to our friends across the frontier. Turning back to east we are starting the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida, the Hallmark network all the way across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big jungle Nebraska, which Wyoming to include both Pitts through the fifth and our friends on the left side of the state. with the seven sisters good afternoon to the valleys down in the valley valley solo listen to your radio it's patriot to go yes it is and then over to well that's right colorado where you better better recalling everybody kids don't just recall one don't give them any breathing space don't give them any measure of safety at all turn around and put bids out, put out boards, clipboards and everything, get everything out there and recall them all while you focus on the one that you want to recall. Oh, that's how you do it. You don't give them any time to focus their energy. You attack and beat them in all directions. You get clipboards for recalling every stinkin' bugger out there that was anti-gun and some of them were even neutral that were flappin' their lips and didn't step forward. How's that sound? And then don't forget, also a petition for the governor. Does it have to be complete? No! Who cares? The idea is if it starts rolling on its own and other people pick up the clipboard and run with it too, why all the better? Yeah, you get their pasty hind ends in motion. That's what you're supposed to do. Anyway, waving the left coast, we turn back to the east. The stench of fine-stined-ism spreads over the wind. Oh, thank goodness we do not have smell-o-vision. Turning back to the east, we sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of Mississippi, land of the Smokies. Will the restaurant crews, Grammy teams, OK teams, the Ma Bell Grammy Consortium, bring us the Golden Spike. It is the 5th of November. fifth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation and that is in your face 2013 old earth calendar or Mayan crazy time Crazy town calendar, some of the fighters crazy wild-eyed blood-soaked maniacs you can find Mayan radio. Uncle, uncle, uncle, ooh, uncle, uncle, ooh. Boy, thank goodness we've got Mayan radio, all you Christians out there that were worshipping the Mayan calendar, why empowering those demon-worshipping, not crazy, coked up coffee drink, oh, wait a minute, they're cocoa drinking. That's the secret. Ooh, wait a minute, that's another story. Anyway. For all of you out there, we all know better, don't we? Now, here we are, it is year 2013, we're almost up to the anniversary of... Doom! Maybe it could happen. You know what? But I'm just gonna keep going the way I am, and if all of a sudden we've gone into flashlighters, searing agonizing pain with so many minutes worth of flaming destruction from... Momoka! Oh, no, no, no! Click, click, click! Then, oh well, so be it. Can't do much about that, but since I'm living in the real world Let's figure we're gonna end up going into a fight gonna have to kick some rumpus put bullets in black uniform knuckle draggers Etc etc etc. So let's all get ready for that by dealing with communications Tuesday. Oh That's right. It is communications Tuesday now. Oh On top of that we're gonna get back to weapons and ammunition production and munitions production in general. Okay but Before we're going farther, did you pay attention? We had Bill from Austin call in this morning. I think it was kind of cool. He actually pointed something out down there in the Texaco's neck of the woods for the Austin, you know, PD and for the Austin City. They have a big resale site where they get rid of their stuff. And right now they have a whole big pile of personal handheld police radios. And they're $5 a piece. Now, one other thing I didn't mention, depending on how new they are, and I hope they're not too new, if they're too new, they're programmable, and they could have wiped the chip, we don't know. Okay, that's another thing I didn't bring up this morning. But, provided that we can get all the data of Omni-Machine, which we can, you can actually ID the model number for the handheld radio. and if it comes with chargers even if it doesn't come with a charger for five dollars apiece for handheld radio maybe as a carrier i hope it does our hangar probably does i should have a little knob antenna that typically they don't feel those but they might have been ever know i haven't seen what they've got sitting there but they might have probably antennas they might have piles of carriers they may have piles of the radios they may have will harbor their setup somebody needs to go check that out why well if it is the earlier service radios, they do not necessarily require a repeater or a substation transfer of any kind. In fact, for normal combat range, they'll work just fine. Now, these are Motorola's. I didn't get the number. I probably should even go on their webpage or try to find it. Bill gave the information out down there in Austin, but it's not just in Austin. The reason I bring this up is there's equipment like this all over the place. Now, somebody's going to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, the radios, they're selling. The radios they're selling are not the 900 meg stuff they've all but demanded they go to. The Homeland Security swine and the Yohudi trash that are running it have pushed everybody into a very narrow operating bandwidth. Okay, in terms of equipment they're using. Now they do have variations in some local departments if they're smaller and smarter, haven't thrown away their older equipment. But for the most part all of the older radio technology like this is offline. It's out of the system now. The cool thing is that means that that entire military grade of technology is now yours for the taking. The important thing is it's actually, and as was pointed out here earlier talking about, like George was talking about, with the naval ships and a lot of stuff being done, the kosher mafia is either claiming they did it, which they typically don't. They've got some slave sweatshop that's in a third party contractor and a fourth party contractor does something to another guy and by the time they're done, nobody near the person that has their name on it actually did the work. all typically low-grade, ill-performed junk that's inspected by other shysters who of course are going to give it the Hail Mary even though they pass it even though they shouldn't. Yeah, but that's how they rub each other's rumpus and grab each other's private parts and laugh about how they get over on us. Now, because of that, the newer stuff progressively is going to cascade into failure. All these departments that should be keeping back the stuff in reserve aren't. I don't have a problem with that. I think that's wonderful. They need to keep doing that. We need it. We want all of it. We need to carry it away. Now let me give you an example, and this happens at the Hamfest. Years ago, I got a big pile of GE handheld radios. I got the chargers, individual chargers, gang chargers of 4, 2, and 5 at a time. And I got a big rack charger that would put 20 or so in a rack. But I didn't even have that many radios where the guy I bought the radios from. But then I found another batch of the exact same radio, another bunch of handheld GEs. Now these aren't real fancy. A lot of them are single frequency set crystal. Some were dual or triple frequency set crystal. The crystals are cheap. I can pay as little as $0.50 and as much as $1 or $2 for the frequency I choose. And I want the ones that are inane and off the wall and not popular. I don't care about them being popular. That's not my concern. I need diversity. So I'm going to grab all the cheap ones I can and have a whole handful of chiclets sorted out so I know what does what. And my radio or my radio officer is going to keep track of that. Now with the GE radios on top of that, at the end of the hand fest there was a guy who didn't want to carry all this junk home that they had. So I ended up with a whole pile of other radios. By the time this done I ended up with over 70 some GE handheld radios. I ended up with a bench test set for actually doing all the evaluation of the radio itself, the diagnostic top to bottom. All of this stuff was analog technology, guys. All very simple, user friendly, easy to run, plug and play, congratulations, you got it fixed. You figure out what's wrong, modular system, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Or you can replace individual components because it's large format, solid state. Now these are beefy radios. They're not lightweight. They're not like Plasti China toys. They're girthy. The biggest thing was battery packs. The cool thing, double A rechargeable batteries make up the battery packs if you open them up. So whatever needed to be replaced, we replaced with brand new nickel hydride batteries. We even upgraded the battery packs. Total cost was about $80 for all the radios and the charging kit, the bench. You know what I did with that? I took that to one militia unit and the whole company, everybody has a radio. Plus they went and hunted down more of them at the ham fest and they probably collected another 100 or 200 or so. It's nice to have backups, spares upon spares upon spares, and when they integrate other militia formations or other people that are organizing militia into their militia, they'll all have a radio too. See how that works? Oh yes, they can get extension mics. Those were all cheaper, nothing cost-wise, because there's piles of the older stuff laying around. They had the headsets. Those were cheap by comparison. All General Electric made, really nice. All this stuff is out there, guys. And very robust, because it was made for field police work. So a little hint on this, too, by the way. Back in the day, years ago, It was a standard policy that law enforcement, if we went into a nuclear exchange, that all of this older, heavily ruggedized equipment would be the replacement equipment for the military to build up a new military grid if need be. In other words, they could count on the older equipment made by GE, Motorola, even the Sensui, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, going in on the shopping list. Uniden, etc. Uniden, Uniden, take your pick. Tomato, tomato on that one. I like Uniden. Instead of Uniden. But anyway, the thing is that all these pieces of equipment, they work. and base stations are available and fancy base stations are available and stuff that used to cost you tax dollars it cost us probably twenty thirty forty thousand dollars I guarantee if you go to that police exchange you can probably find a nice base unit there for anywhere from twenty five to fifty maybe a hundred dollars complete with you know desk mics and headsets speaker units and all kinds of fun stuff why because it's not cutting edge but you know what it works Now, for those of you who are going, why would I need it? Well, how about you think about being a preparedness group or a large preparedness group? You've got a whole bunch of people that are going to work together. This allows for you to have an independent free-standing radio grid that you can talk to each other with, separate from yet all of the other radio equipment you've got. You've got marine, you've got your standard 6 meter, you've got CB radio, and by the way, then you have a variety of VHF and UHF options up and down the dial. using a lot of this other neat stuff that's just out there laying around. And it would point out that failure to maintain stuff is notorious when the Yohudi get their way. They will charge you for stuff, it will not get to where it needs to go, then it will be slid out the back door and stolen from the American people as it's sold for pennies on the dollar to the Shysters overseas. You paid for it, they got it. Another way that we lose trillions of dollars to thieves and kleptomaniacs that are throughout our system. So, another thing about that while you're going down there and checking those out, if they have antennas, also look to see if they have vehicle mount antennas, and if they have coax, and they of course have car radios. Now the nice thing about car radios is that again, they already, and it depends on what era guys, if they're old enough, they may or may not have a programmable chip. If they do and they have a programmable chip, you're going to have to do the research to decide whether or not you want to fiddle-fart with that. Some people will, others just don't have the time, nor do they have the wherewithal. And I understand that. That's not what I'm talking about. In fact, do some research. Go there, check out what they have, write down the numbers. Find out what is under the hood with that radio. Trust me, Motorola loves selling products and there's people that love Motorola and they're selling it out there on the internet and eBay and whatever all day. But these departments sell for a lot less. And where do you think a lot of stuff on eBay comes from? Oh, it comes from those departments and stuff. Especially the ones going out of business now. There's a lot of departments that have been going out of business. All that cool stuff they had is pretty much up for grabs. On that note, just a quick reminder, I got another set of leg body armor for free today. It's Police Riot Shock Armor. Knee, front shin, oh yeah. In fact, you're going to see some of the videos coming up, guys. Really cool, and it was free, and it's black. It's really kind of neat. But when people get rid of stuff, it's smart to pick it up since it says Kevlar laminate I just don't think I could live without it at the very least I can well like we're gonna do pass it on to one of the other troops and with all their black uniforms and with all their black body armor and with all their black web gear and with their black Kevlar helmet and with their Swiss black balaclava Well, they look just like everybody on the other side and with some electrical tape and that's yellow and some electrical tape That's white in your pocket and a small roll of yellow duct tape and a small roll of white duct tape When you look through the scope and you see what kind of letters are on their uniforms You take the electrical tape and the duct tape and you make your uniforms have the same letters their uniforms have Hey, that's cheating No, that's war. Oh Yeah, we aren't supposed to be that smart figure this out Anyway, just something to keep an eye out kids. You just never know what you're gonna find just laying around or getting thrown out So now enough on the radio gear, although this communications Tuesday something that people were asking about earlier I'm gonna mention something here that's especially critical with improvised munitions and all categories of weapons production And what does that have to do with precision? and cleanliness. One of the reasons that weapon systems fail, in fact we had a, one of the reasons I wanted to qualify this with the first hour we talked about with failures in the system. Well one of the two things that created the weapon systems failures that we described in the middle of Vietnam. Number one was precision and the lack thereof. Number two was cleanliness. Now, precision overlapping those two was research and development of final product, which was especially critical and was supposed to have been done. But in reality, well, somebody screwed the pooch on that one, kids. As can be attested to by the many men found dead with a law's rocket in their hand, or the many men that were found dead along that trail that had been cut by the air mobile troops as they were cut to ribbons, many of them dying with their M16 jammed in their hands. They were found dead with that weapon failing. So there was no doubt. They found rifle after rifle after rifle like that. That's why that historical account is not in the movies. Because it doesn't paint the same. It's feudal resist. You're all going to die in an infused picture. Because, well, how was it that the people that were in Vietnam just decided to stick with it? Did they have all-loses? Was it a Hollywood movie where everybody just pops up like a pop-up target and you just keep mowing them down? Or could it have been that it was equal opportunity dying time? And the more motivated you get, the better you get at it? and the ones that don't pay attention or decide that they're not going to listen to what you say when you try to teach them, they get, well, eviscerated, they get chopped up, they get chewed. I ain't talking about it on our side. I'm talking about it on the other side, too. It works that way. The survivors are stronger. The survivors are smarter. The survivors become warriors. They're already junior warriors, but they become senior warriors. Go ahead. What do you got, George? Well, you know, I heard people, when they did the invasion of Grenada, that their M16s failed. Well, it wasn't so much there. The biggest problem they had there was just, again, volume of equipment they had to drag in. Remember, they did an airborne drop. A couple of guys that I trained were actually in Granada, actually where I served, a handful of those guys, because the Ranger unit that went in, a lot of the guys, Ranger Rod, was one of them, one of the guys I served with. He originally went through the Ranger course and broke his leg during the mountain phase. In fact, guys, back then you washed out. If you failed in any phase during the Ranger School, they didn't pull you through. You couldn't heal or you couldn't make it, you washed out. And he washed out the first time he went through Ranger School. Second time, he made it. When he made it through that, and it didn't break his leg that time. Then he was part of the airborne jump, the Ranger jump that went into Granada. Now, I didn't hear too much about weapons malfunctions there. Remember, that's one of the first actions where the Pascat and Kevlar armor went into play. The new armor went into play. It actually had very good success. Despite everybody flapping and yapping about the Pascat armor, they didn't know that much about it. And of course, have been mostly just repeating whatever they've heard from other people over and over again. It's kind of like when a rumor starts, you just kept being whispered about. That's basically the problem that we had with what happened in Granada. There are a lot of things that did happen. I don't hear that there were that many weapons malfunctions per se. Again, the newer rifles were in service. The A2 was starting to show up then, along with the leftover A1s modified. What they did is basically change out the sandbag grips and put the newer A2 grips on them. So you couldn't tell the difference of the long range anyway. Most guys if they could have grabbed the a1 even though it was a you know It was not a problem child by that point everything pretty well been toothed out of it Everything was working with supposed to the reason a lot of guys would prefer to carry the a1 is it was select fire? Whereas the a2 obviously is you know sem and three round burst So that was the big change go ahead. What else? Well, I said with uh, I don't know with a right now It's more like I hear like from the army and the Navy's and Air Force talking to people there It's like all these weapons systems and General Dynamics, all this, it doesn't work, basically. It's plastic. The problem is, if you look at it the way they're looking at it, if we get to a major war, your lifespan is very low as far as they're concerned, and they don't care anyway. So they get paid the same. Remember the line from RoboCop when he talks about, remember the RoboTek robot that they built? The guy passed down the information about the problems they were having with it and the guy was pissed off that was the junior CEO and basically he killed the other guy later because he goes, who the hell gives a squat whether or not it worked? It was a government contract. We would have made a fortune on the spare parts alone. You see the replacement parts. And that's really how they think. They're not worried about you and me and what happens to us. It's like all the other goofy stuff that they're coming up with. You know, by the time we're done we get one or two or three of them. Well, there's an old story. If you only have one or two or three of them all you do is swamp it real quick and then you have none of them. Well, it's just like when I saw that robot that ran on a gas powered motor and said they were running and turning and all that stuff. I've been there looking at how can this thing be disabled and that is take out the motor. Well, every scenario I've seen has never been realistic. It's always they have to have somebody that's going, oh, I'm shocked. Whereas instead it's somebody who's hardened. It'd be like, first of all, even as I'm looking for your little robot, I'd be trying to kill you running it. In fact, if I had a team of men, which I would, I might keep your little robot busy while I'm busy banetting your arse to death and gutting you and wrapping your entrails around the little robot and leaving you behind for the next guy. Seriously. Every scenario I've seen is absolutely unrealistic, but it's designed to make you go, oh, did you see the video of what it does? Oh, my. Now let me give you an example, the walking dog thing. What happens if you blow the front legs off? Like in the walking dog and the walking mule. What happens if you blow the legs off sideways? It's useless. Yeah, but now I would say this and I would figure somebody would be scurrilous. I would think that they would sabotage it so that it would have demolitions on board so that it couldn't be tampered with. So the one thing you have to be cautious of if you want to recover anything on it, you know, if it's like a medical mule, is you'd have to first verify the pattern in design, which means whoever goes in first goes in armored. and you'd want to do research on the cadavers so to speak even though it's a robot you look at the robot body and you evaluate its design and confirm whether or not it's movie trapped either from long-range activation or if it's sensor activated that's the first thing I'm more worried about that than I'm worried about it as a weapon all this BS can be knocked out anything man-made we can kill if you don't think let's back up on this let's qualify it this way guys What they don't want you to think, I hear all this flapping and yapping from numbskulls who obviously don't even have a clue and use your little pea brains that have been conditioned by the public fool system. You know how many Abrams tanks we've lost in Iraq? I'll tell you how to find some of that out. Go and punch in an image of our bone yards, our armored recovery rebuild yards down south. When we went into Iraq they had to double then triple and then quadruple the holding yards for the lay only row upon row upon row upon row upon row upon row upon row upon row of Abrams tanks Now with all the propaganda you've heard and all the television and BS, well you've heard of Abrams tank. You don't get blown up and you don't get knocked out. Well that's because they're told, they've told you again because the control press is so far up the feds arse. They're literally a meat buff. Well they're licking their hind end and they can tell you what the fed has had for breakfast. Gavilta fish or blintz, take your pick. Anyway, the point is that the massive amount of armor, 70 ton tanks that have been knocked out, it's countable but right now we'll just say it's uncountable. Now let's figure in also, remember this, there are vehicles that have been so badly destroyed that they've been scrapped off site. In other words, they are not even brought back for recovery purposes. Although most all of them have been, like the Abrams, the logic is it's so expensive we don't make any more Abrams parts in the US, so whatever we lose overseas, we bring back and try to scrap off whatever we can for another tank. So if you've got to scrape Fred and Bill out of the inside of the turret of a wreck because the turret is all that's left, And if you have to replace the turret basket and a few other things because the hull is fragged, that's acceptable because the turret costs a lot of money and we don't make them anymore. We haven't made tank turrets in this country for a long time. We haven't made tank hulls. I have people still tell me, we got Tarkom. We don't do Jack or squat at Tarkom. I was there for the auction when your federal government betrayed America and moved all that machinery off the US. In fact, we didn't even get a chance to bid on that stuff, guys. The big stuff all went to the communist Chinese. a hybridized Abrams. They already demonstrated that they could take the M60 to that level and it would have been a better choice. We could have had six or seven M60A5s for the price of one Abrams. And they'd have fitted everything we had in the way of supply and support transportation. They would have been fully integratable and upgradable to the 120 millimeter main gun. They were already prepared and had all the modern laser. By the time we were done, the last model of M60 already had the onboard laser rangefinder systems and all the modern optics and sensors and FLIR available. It was already onboard. The only thing it would have changed was to make it look, in fact, even made it look like an Abrams. Now, let me give you an example of what they did with that idea. Have you seen, like, remember that Denzil Washington movie where the They know he's got a whole squadron of Abrams tanks. Remember he's a tank commander and it's friendly fire. I think that was the name of it friendly fire Remember where he worked under fire courage under fire. Yeah, they shot he shot shoots his buddy in the tank cuz you know They miss you miscalculated who was who right? Okay, all of those were m60 battle tanks. All of those tanks were m60s What they did is they modified those and you've seen those tanks since then if you watch the series walking dead Have you watched any of the episodes of that, George? No, I haven't. Okay, it's a zombie series. It's not critical to watch it, but the first episode he crawls into an Abrams tank. If you guys pay attention, this is where you can see what the M60A5 would look like. What they did is they've taken an M60 battle tank. Put all the proper plates in place and the basic silhouette is pretty much the same. However, when you look at it from above, you'll be able to see the scale difference. between the M60 and the M1 Abrams as far as dimension. Look at the size of the human. Take a look at the turret configuration. Although they boxed it out and everything, pay attention to details and you'll see what I'm talking about. Now what's interesting is of course the advantage of the M60, it's called being very, actually the term is highly automotive. By the time the M60 was in its top range, They had already gone through 8, 9 track pin modifications. They built those right here in Belleville, Michigan. The only plant that built them in Belleville, Michigan is a foundry plant. I have probably about 100 of those sitting at a location that came from the foundry. I know all the guys that work there. I know the guy who owned the factory. They started making Abrams Keepers. They are the same year. I think they might even still make those there, although probably the Chinese got that or the Egyptians. Anyway, the point is that all of the parts, all of the integrated systems were worked out to the point where it got high mileage and it was very quiet. The other half of the battle is, can somebody hear you coming? The M60 has been tweaked to a highly automotive performance range to include noise disciplines. Which is especially critical now could it could it take here's another interesting thing you got to remember something the dimensions for the M1 Abrams main battle tank included the requirement that the M1 be able to take the M60s power pack and in fact because of that vice versa the Turbo diesel that's in the Abrams could be dropped and in fact was droppable into the M60 battle tank Everybody forgets that the M1 Abrams was a transition vehicle. So all of the fixtures and all of the critical subcomponents could be replaced with on the shelf existing components to include conventional diesel or even the fields full of gasoline driven engines they still had on the pallet. Which they don't talk about either. No, I don't really want to gasoline Abrams But the idea was that if we had to and we got in war and they bombed your factories If you want a tank to move you better have a motor you can put in that tank if one gets knocked out and so Anything is better than nothing Not a mark all your controls and work cross-section with that too. Go ahead color. Okay. There's JC from Pennsylvania. It's something I would be should mention the automated I think they call it automated mule and gear and stuff. The go back to the KISS principle, something as simple as Ebola. Oh yeah. I mean that would not even have to worry about expending ordinance on something like that. What we really have to be thinking of is the simple stuff to take out the high technology stuff. In fact, the Ebola firing FU gas would be easily built, could be easily deployed and easily aimed. In fact, you could channel the activity of whatever it is trying to move through an area because it will select the path of least resistance. It has to by the very nature of how it operates. The big thing is, again, once you've got it directed just like infantry or anything else, then you engage it and knock it down. And you could do that with any number of different projectors. Wouldn't have to be any kind of black powder charge or anything. It could be done with any number of different arbalisks or it could be done with even a large rubber band, water balloon type deployment. All it's got to do is get the junk down range and mess it up. It's just like going after a helicopter in that respect. too many working parts that have to integrate and as soon as one of them starts to bollocks up and it works against the other, pretty well that's a kinetic energy self destruct machine. You might not like... Go ahead, I'm sorry, please. You could use cable, you know, cable denial systems on the ground for something like that, just like you could for helicopters. Exactly. And the idea is that if nothing else, you slow, remember, barbed wire slows it down and a heavy rifle finishes it off. 50 caliber would be again a simple shot. Once your life depends on it, you're going to get good at it or you're going to learn real quick that you should be maybe in another job if you can't handle that weapon that way or properly. The other solutions include again dropping it in a hole, letting it think that it's perfectly safe to move through an area, drop things on it. I mean I can think of all kinds of mean stuff to be like, well that's all she wrote. The biggest problem is whether or not you want to destroy what it's carrying or again is it being used as a demolition delivery system. See that's the other thing. It's just like the old, you know, the little Goliaths they made in World War II. The Germans made them. They were little mini tanks. I know Doc Robinson said, yeah, everybody laughed at those. He goes, what they would do is knock them out. When the Germans would start to deploy them, they would drive out and they'd knock them out with a grand, right? Well, then they started figuring nobody really looked that close, but the next wave of them came out and everybody figured out we'd let them get closer. Well, the problem is they're carrying up to 100 pounds of explosives, guys. And the guys that decided they'd just walk up and shoot it, they aren't with us anymore. Okay? And you know, boom, boom, boom, and kaboom. That's all she wrote. Well, something you mentioned a while ago, too, just like with tracking dogs. The tracking dog is worthless without the operator. I don't know. Did you read Max Velocity's blog article on tracking? Yes, that's one I recommended. He's done some great work. Everybody needs to go to, from the Trenches World Report, Henry posts a lot of Max Velocity stuff on a regular basis. I highly recommend that everybody read those. Go ahead. Yes. I actually talked to him the day after we posted it. We were talking about the whole tracking deal. In the old days, we would use eucalyptus oil in a track. The dog would sniff it and not realize it could no longer smell. The handler did not realize the dog was messed up and wasn't smelling. He would write down the trail a little ways. You could set up an ambush and the dog wouldn't be able to detect you were there. certain things like Tiger crap and cocaine were things that they tried using in Vietnam but both things let the handler know that the dog was either scared to death because he knew that any cat that the turd that big and spelled like that was something he didn't want to mess with or the cocaine would just completely screw up the dog's senses the handler would know how long and be alerted. It all goes back to like I said you know the simple stuff you know taking out the to worry about the technology, whether it's a dog or you take out that handler. One of the things I had to deal with aggressive with dogs in a real life situation, and we got away from them each time, but in the one incident, and I'll relate that tomorrow, probably not tonight, actually it will be weapons Wednesday tomorrow. It's a long story, but let's put it this way. I knew we would eventually encounter dogs. You have to assume dogs, guys. If you're going to do reconnaissance in an area, first of all, you pick and move through the area in such a way that you never use the same trail twice. Now, there's a reason for this, because you're sent... Oh, forgive me, excuse me. That's strange. Excuse me, I didn't cough button and work there. What's interesting is... If you deploy and you keep changing routes, the scent is deployed. That's all there is to it. If you're going to be operational in the area in an aggressive patrolling fashion and you're an independent picket reconnaissance team, you're not going to be making contact. Guys, you're not going out there to be Recondo slash Arnold Schwarzenegger, kill them all. You're trying to avoid contact. You're trying to break contact, never to be seen in the first place. The best reconnaissance is one where the enemy never knows you were there. or can't be sure of who you are if they suspect somebody was there that's always a question mark in in in this situation that the one situation the operator failed the operator the dog did its job but we fatigue that the operator we fatigue all of the operators In fact, at one point, because my final plan was, the operators weren't going to go any farther anyway. They were frustrated, they were cold, they were wet, and they were hyper-fatigue, and they virtually were upon us. I say upon us, I'm saying close enough that it's one of those things where you just want to do something but you can't. and he's listening to an entire conversation as close as from say the front seat to the back seat of a car. Literally. In more than one instant, in one case we were chased for almost a day and a half. And in that situation, not the first one but the first time describing, that lasted through a whole day. And the second event lasted almost a day and a half and that was a separate one yet again. So everybody goes, well they've got dogs, you can't do anything. Guys, there's a million things. But nothing else. Remember, if you have a series of trails and these scents continue to overlap, if you can't do anything else, remember that if you take a different trail each time and you integrate and map out how you're going to move through an area, you have created a jigsaw puzzle. You've created a checkerboard. The dog has to pick a direction. Then on top of that, the basic rule is if you're going to go into a very sensitive area. You may suspect ground surveillance, you may suspect seismic, seismic, seismic, and intrusion technology. Forgive me. You know, ground surveillance, but you also optical surveillance, needless to say. Thermal is a threat constantly in this modern battlefield, but it's not new. Flirium technology has been around for, you know, 40 years, guys. So it's not like we don't know how to deal with it and it can be defeated. The most important thing is put earth between you and what you suspect is the objective. Always. Now, the thing is, when you do figure that you're going to break contact, pick incredibly rough terrain, high angle terrain. Know where the depressions are in an area. Know where the high elevation and multiple ridges are. You don't cross along a ridge. You go through a depression, up one ridge to the top of it, then down the next depression, and you put a series of climbs and runs between you to get distance between you and the aggressor. You and the dog that's trying to, the pack that's trying to chase you. Typically, again, as he pointed out, Max said, there's a difference between attack dogs and tracking dogs. And the attack dogs will be on the prowl, they'll be actually on standby, and they're held in reserve once the dogs have done their job. And that's really what you've got to watch for because until those tracking dogs give a final confirm, they're not going to release the attack dogs. Attack dogs cost a lot of money just like the others do, and they're a bullet that you may only send out once and you may hear, and you lose. So when they deploy them they want to do it intelligently. These guys get attached to their animals just like anybody else. Like I said, the eucalyptus oil, but the other thing we carried was a bunch of treble hooks and fishing line. You can figure that out. If you want to be hyper aggressive, remember dogs noses, dogs lips, and the dog's face is highly sensitive along with their ears. It doesn't mean you hook them anywhere else doesn't hurt. But remember that the nose, the face and the lips, that's their sensory array guys. It's like, well anybody, I don't care who the hell you are, I stick a trouble hooking your nose, you're going to know it. Although you might think it's modern day jewelry. Hey Mark. Go ahead caller, jump in there. This is Sean in Seattle. When you're bringing up killer robots and such and thinking about evasion techniques, I wonder what it would be like for one of those things to wander into a spider web of trip wires and put what's going on. running circles around them that confuse them and maybe spraying a little acid on them but hydrogen peroxide and vinegar mixed together. I'll tell you a low tech solution guys, oil based paint. Okay, think about this, oil based paint is monstrous when it comes to maintenance. And epoxy and oil based paints are horrible because first of all this is a fine machine. It has mobility parts that work. Now the cool thing about any kind of epoxy or oil based paints is that initially they're not going to solidify. In fact the object, what will happen is if you're able to deploy it against and drop it or swap it onto them, any place where there's a crack, fluids follow the path of least resistance. anywhere where there's a piston or an armature moving you're going to have the part being immersed in the material and it's pulled into the working channel of that drive component. All of this mux with stuff, even if that's all you can do with tanks, I'm not talking about necessarily blinding them, I'm talking about mucking with it. In warfare it's attrition. You do things that are really obnoxious but another thing they do, if you hit them with pink, red, blue, whatever colors you got, save the tactical colors for equipment, for your stuff. But you want to take stuff that markers it on top of everything else. A one gallon glass pickle jar full of oil based paint dumped from a fourth store window. A four story window from above and walk away. Just drop it and walk. And you know gravity sucks and it's going to make it. So the idea is if you keep doing this, the attrition rate, what it does, some of this gunk never leaves. It never can be fixed. It always is going to be there. It's not going to end. And what it does, you will maybe blind them. There's only so many devices on the vehicle that allow them to see now. And they don't even want to talk about that. Remember, we discussed this before about armor. Even with the mechanized technology, if you look at the mechanical dog or the mechanical mule, in both cases they have a sensor hub. Well, what would I try to damage or what would I try to goop up? What would be my first area of interest? And remember, any kind of adhesion material, anything and everything I can do that can bollocks up, block up, or reduce sensor collection is going to knock down the vehicle, or at least again, retard it for better engagement. Then the bolo, then all the other fun stuff, or even all of it combined at the same time. All of it works. Anything and everything works. Now we've got, go ahead, color. I just wanted, I see a lot of, getting back to the dog tracking really quick, I see a lot of bad advice and people saying to jump in the water, get in the water, etc. I just want to tell people from somebody that has successfully evaded tracking dogs and trackers, specifically water especially, your scent is going to stay above the air level on a pond. You don't want to necessarily do that. One of the best things to do is to try to fight a trail like you were talking about. Trail, hard pack, especially if it's hot out, any kind of pavement, blacktop, that's going to eliminate your scent faster than anything. Exactly. One of the reasons for actually using the water guys, when they were searching for me before and I was doing the programming, more than a few times they used helicopters. And each time we actually evaded the first thing, in fact in two instances they didn't really know how close they were. This is over a period of what, a month, a month and a half, two months? The first thing you do is use the water to bring down temperature, you bring down your thermal signature. Lay in the water, you'll just drop yourself in the water, flop over in the back and that way you've got a cooling agent. What does water do? Poles, calories, reduces temperature, surface temperature. It's not gonna work for long, not gonna work forever. But remember that in a summer environment, the temperature, if it's 90 degrees, you have thermal pockets everywhere in canopy, everywhere. You're talking up to 106, 107 degrees, depending on how long the sun's been cooking an area on the surface. There will be pockets as low as 89 degrees, 88 degrees, 85 degrees as high as depending on the shade and depending upon the type of canopy and how it is collected heat. Remember trees collect heat. This is why foliage is your friend. Any vegetation. Well, beyond that, the next step, as you said, is making sure that you try to, again, evaluate the threat. If you have thermal, if you have any kind of, and seismic is not likely for mobile, but there may be seismic in the area. It's not likely, but it's a possibility. The closer you are to military reservations, military facilities, the more likely seismic intrusion technology has to be in your math formula. Now, beyond that, then the dogs, obviously, and the eyeballs, the human element on the ground. The human element on the ground is not the weakest, but it is the least likely to be reliable for the aggressor. Sounds weird, but it's still a fact. Even if there's technology out there, it's only as good as the guy behind the lens, guys. And if they're having to spread out and the wider the area they have to search, the fewer people they have that are, they're, quote unquote, experts, as opposed to rank and file. Which is a plus for you as a person involved in escape innovation or again breaking contact in a combat situation. Go ahead, caller. Yeah, this is Shawn again in Seattle. You know how you're always talking about picking up stuff that's free? I was going through the faculty room today and someone had left a bunch of these pizza hut. crushed red pepper packets out on the table. I grabbed up a bunch of them because something like this is something you can tear open quickly and drop behind you on the trail. The dogs would pick it up with their noses and they'd lose your scent. The other thing, during World War II, a lot of people escaped from the Nazis by mixing rabbit blood with cocaine and handkerchiefs and dropping them all over the place. As soon as the dog's nose hit that, that was it for the day for the dog. Right, that's one of the things he was talking about earlier that if you use anything like that, the only thing that is going to happen is if the dogs are being tethered. Now, some dogs are trained to actually work ahead of the operating team and will not be tethered. This is something we need to bring up. Now, there's a good thing about that. That dog is so disciplined that that dog will not attack. However, that dog will roam more. In that case, it's more likely that the guy may not notice the activity of the dog in that phase if he's interrupted in some way. However, if the dog is tethered, that's what I was pointing out, the operator is going to notice discrepancies in his normal performance. You've got to remember, these guys live with these dogs. Military operators thought it was a great idea to be a dog handler at first until they find out you don't get any leave. because the dog is only trained to you. The dog is not trained typically to a mutual handler. This is a story most people don't know about like during Vietnam. A lot of dogs were put down because if the guy had to leave because of injuries, if they couldn't condition the dog for area security just to let roam, the dogs had to be killed because they were conditioned to only respond to and only operate with one man. They were reared to that person. It's sad, but it's a fact. In fact, one of my friends I told you before, he got two Purple Hearts. Both times he got shot in the butt cheeks. He also lost all of his front teeth in the third incident. All of his front teeth are fakes. You can just play chicklet with him. One of the things he'd do is he'd take his tongue, flip his upper teeth right in front of you, and he'd like, what the hell was that? First time you see it, you get scared half that's quit showing off, right? But he was a dog handler and at one point they screwed up and shipped his dog to Alaska. He was coming back to the US and that's the only break he got. They shipped the dog to Alaska and shipped him to the US. He bit the dog back because the dog was missing. That's how he broke his teeth. What? Over pee again? I said your buddy probably bit the dog back. No, a guy smacked him square in the face. It was actually being somewhat nice. He didn't know what the guy had done. The guy just killed a bunch of guys. He actually had turned to say something to him. The guy took his face out and actually busted his nose, busted the cleft of his, right underneath the bridge underneath his nose, was crushed in and smacked all of his teeth out in the front. That was his third injury in Vietnam. That was his last. The big thing is that again, the process involved here with regard... Well, I know. We're the top end. With Dog Handling, go to Max Velocity. Take a look at the articles we're talking about, guys. Excellent writing. Get a copy of each of Max's books. They are definitely worth the read and having on the shelf. God bless the Republic. Death of the New World Order. 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